ABC Changes Name Name to SBC…

ABC All Barack ChannelLast Wednesday night we saw the official move by ABC to abandon their old moniker and adopt a new one. I have to admit I was a bit surprised that it was ABC that did it rather than MSNBC. The latter being so far in the liberal camp that it cannot even be considered a news source any longer. I was actually initially OK with the idea that ABC was going to give an hour long block of time to President Obama in order for him to tell America about his health care plan and why we have a crisis that only he can solve. After all, there is nothing wrong with him making his case. Where I lost my being OK with things was when they refused to allow any groups opposing Nationalized Health Care to buy advertising spots during the program or to be able to offer any sort of rebuttal or alternative ideas on the channel. It showed me that the America Broadcasting Company has officially changed into the State Broadcasting Company (SBC)….

Obama Sham WowI am not going to get into the debate over the actual things that were presented in the Obama “Sham Wow” commercial on ABC. We will have plenty of time to cover the actual issues around national health care in the upcoming articles. I am only talking in this article about the unabated bias that was shown in the piece and the fact that ABC didn’t allow for debate or any form of contradictory evidence to be presented. This was an infomercial for the Obama plan, plain and simple. Anyone who wants to dispute that fact has their head so far up their partisan rear end that they can’t see straight.

Let’s be clear about what was presented to the American people as fact. This was 100% presented from the Democratic/Obama point of view. There was ZERO alternative information presented. There was ZERO evidence presented in the show to support the claims and lies that were put forth in the infomercial. After the ABC Doctor, Tim Johnson, came out and gave the presentation for the plan complete with graphs and slideshows that had as much non-partisanship as Keith Olberman, Bill Mauer and Sean Hannity offer, he offered a single sentence about the criticisms of the plan. A single “The critics claim that ….” and then nothing.

ABC Obama Logo 2Let me be clear up front. As a private company, ABC has the right to air whatever they want to air on their network. And they also have the right to NOT air whatever they want on their network. And that means they are allowed to air a completely biased one hour special with Obama and his health care plan. It also means that they are allowed to tell the GOP to go to hell when they want to offer a rebuttal and to allow no alternative viewpoints to the infomercial. Failing to acknowledge that they have those rights would go against the very principles that I espouse.

But I do take issue with the fact that they make these moves and then claim that they are offering a non-partisan point of view. I do take issue with the fact that they told America that they were airing just the facts. When the RNC requested the opportunity to PAY for air time to air alternative points of view to the President’s plan, they were flatly denied. Drudge reported that ABC News Senior Vice President Kerry Smith replied to the RNC:

Obama Little Finger“ABC News prides itself on covering all sides of important issues and asking direct questions of all newsmakers — of all political persuasions — even when others have taken a more partisan approach and even in the face of criticism from extremes on both ends of the political spectrum. ABC News is looking for the most thoughtful and diverse voices on this issue. ABC News alone will select those who will be in the audience asking questions of the president….ABC News will have complete editorial control. To suggest otherwise is quite unfair to both our journalists and our audience.”

To be honest, I am a little insulted that ABC would even attempt to claim that they hold no bias at all. I have to admit that every single time that I hear someone tell me that ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, or The New York Times is not liberally biased, it is insulting. And it makes me respect those people who tell me that just a little bit less. Because it shows me that they are not capable of seeing reality, or at least not capable of admitting it. Oh, I see the places that Fox News gets biased. So don’t even try to go there. But I have explained that before, although it seems none of my critics want to admit that I have said so.

ABC Obama Health AdIt is clear to me with this move that ABC News endorses the government’s rapidly expanding control of not only the economy but of virtually every aspect of the lives of this country’s citizens. One cannot doubt the news media’s complicity in bringing fascism to this country. There is no possible excuse for a news organization that poses as non-partisan, that pretends to be a news source. There is no excuse that ABC can offer for their actions here while simultaneously claiming to offer to America just the facts and just the news. It acts with full knowledge of the fraud and deception perpetrated by the Democrats on the country ever since Obama announced his candidacy for the presidency. The accession of ABC News as a de facto department of the Obama administration ought to convince Americans that they are no longer to be trusted at all.

If there is good news that can come out of the ABC News move to drop to their knees and show where their allegiance lies, it is that they did so and instead of the $300 that was supposed to be on the bedside table, there was a $10 bill and a note that said “Thanks for a Good Time”. They expected that while they were trading in their media credentials for a backstage “Groupie Pass”, they would at least get some great ratings out of it. But no one bothered to watch the infomercial. The Obama special went up against the NBC premiere of “The Philanthropist” and a repeat of “CSI: NY” on CBS, which was already widely seen the first time it aired. The Obama propaganda special got a dismal 1.2 rating to the 2.0  for The Philanthropist and 1.8 for the CSI re-run.

write-what-you-are-toldLet’s put that into real numbers shall we? Roughly 4.703 million viewers watched the ABC Special. 7.414  million watched the Philanthropist 7.393 million watched the CSI re-run. Remembering that we have 300 million citizens and healthcare is supposed to be the biggest emergency crisis in history, well, that is a paltry number of viewers. Twice as many people watched a re-run of CSI as watched the heralded “event”. I silently giggled that ABC took this risk, got exposed as a partisan member of the state, and got almost no return on that investment.

So what do all of you say? Can we trust ANY of our supposed “news” sources at all? And I ask that about ALL of them. That includes Fox News. Is there a single news source on the television today that can be trusted to give Americans that truth about what is going on? Is there a single news source in the traditional print media that we can trust to tell Americans the truth about what we face today? Or are we all simply screwed? What options are left for Americans to simply get an honest appraisal of the facts and a truthful representation of what is happening in America?

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Comments

  1. Do you remember the unprecedented access Fox News had to the Bush administration?

    Maybe Fox News should change their name to Bush-league News…

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/18/hannity-unprecedented-access/

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200906170034

    http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001852/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/18/fox-news-complains-about_n_217652.html

    • USWeapon says:

      Maybe they should Todd. But I think I was fair is saying that there was NO media offering unbiased news any longer, that there was no place that Americans could really trust anymore. And I specifically said that this included Fox News.

      • Maybe it is impossible to find unbiased media but this has nothing to do with the fact that FOX News is the only conservative channel while we have dozens and hundreds of liberal TV stations.

        I’m so fed up with people who critize FOX News…FOX News is the only channel that keeps at least a small balance between state propaganda and conservative values. There is no need to make up your mind by just following one channel BUT you need at least two different opinions in order to make up your own mind.

        If FOX News would be gone the MSM would present political correct views only, like here in Germany. This leads to the funny situation that while whole cities collapse nothing is done against it. MSM is just fine with the fact that we have millions of low qualified immigrants who live on welfare in the 4th (!) generation! MSM is just fine with the fact that taxes rose through the last 20 years while government spending increased constantly. The tax burden on an average worker is around 65%.
        So if one political party now comes up with the idea that we should cut taxes ALL of those retarded MSM channels on TV and radio add that “Critics say” (critics only show up when sth. is not in favor of government/more social welfare/political correctness) “it is ridiculous to cut taxes since the state made so high depts and needs more money.”

        I’m sorry this is really bad for my blood pressure… NOT ONE news reporter brings up the idea that maybe (probably one of my stupid ideas, I know)yeee maybe the government should lower its expenses, maybe we don’t need these millions of civil servants, maybe we shouldn’t pay so much welfare that someone living on it has a higher income than someone who works, maybe we shouldn’t pay welfare a life long to people who actually like the idea of living at other peoples expenses.

        In our capital, Berlin more than 50%(!) of the population get their main income through the state and this is the case for many other cities as well. So guess who those idiots in Berlin vote for? Right, the communist and socialistic party. Now guess where they get their money from? Right, the working population.

        So before anyone keeps whining about FOX News go and shut down most of those stupid liberal channels so the media landscape gets even.

        • Manuel,

          Great post, thanks for sharing a foreign viewpoint. I saw a brief mention that Germany has experienced hyper-inflation.
          Is that true?

          I hope you will consider doing a guest article touching on Germany’s experience under socialism. Do you view America following those footsteps?

          • Life Of Illusion,

            we had our last hyperinflation in the 1920’s. Officially we don’t have socialism of course, the Berlin Wall is down and East Germany cost us all the money we had. To build up a whole country that was burned out by communism is very expensive.

            I see America following our footsteps under Obama. The most important steps to make sure that America moves to the left are:

            – Political correct MSM only
            – Get as many people hooked on welfare and state income as possible
            – Make sure that the people only feel safe when the government is in control of everything not the individual (people in Europe already forgot how to look after themselves)

      • anoninnc says:

        It amazes me how seemingly EVERYWHERE if any attempt is made to point out the deep and steep left-leaning bias of nearly every MSM outlet, then the rebuttal is not to try to explain how the MSM is not biased, but to simply point back to Bush and anyone who agrees with conservative principle. . . and allow the “Bush” explanation to justify that far left leaning as normal.

        Please.

        It may be that we need to beleive no one at face value, at least for an extended season. It may be required that we research EVERY report that we hear to validate its accuracy. And that will take commitment and energy.

        Amplified personal research and responsibility may be the only way to combat decades of a lethargic too-long-on-the-couch populace.

        Until we as a people give up the potato chips and the remote, thinking citizens may each have to become micro-“media outlets” starting with their families, their communities, their cities . . .

        As proud as I am of the “tea party” movement, it will require more than public political events . . . it will require active participation . . . behind our front doors instead of in front of the cameras.

        Thank you, USWeapon, for having the courage to point out the obvious.

        All of the “Emperors” need a new wardrobe.

    • Todd — LOL LOL LOL LOL

      If these are your sites of objectivity no wonder you’re employed by Acorn !

      thinkprogress.org,mediamatters.org,www.dailykostv.com,www.huffingtonpost.com

      It must be that USW is being polite !!

      I wondered why you didn’t include a link from http://www.democraticunderground.com, at least there they are sorta honest in that if you join and make a post that doesn’t rotely support their liberal democratic party line, they will ban you and tell you that they don’t want to hear an opposing viewpoint !!! LOL LOL LOL

      Whatever viewpoint I posted was hardly as divisive as most of the points made here. LOL If I ever post stuff that is as off track to the right as Todd’s post is to the left, please yell at me or delete the post.

  2. “Once upon a time in America . . . In a galaxy far, far away”

    I remember when I learned to read, we didn’t have any books so I read the daily newspaper. I read everything, even the ads. I was told by my mother that I shouldn’t really believe everything I read in that newspaper because it was mostly the writers personal opinion. That was back around 1947-48 and I was only four years old and did not really understand what she was talking about, but it must have been important enough to me then because I remember her saying that to this day – almost 62 years later.

    I remember during the mid-50’s watching Edward R. Murrow on the TV News, also Chet Huntley and David Brinkley. They were so serious and matter of fact in their reporting of the news. Sunday’s was the informative program called Omnibus which I really liked because it informed me about things that just were not covered in school. That was in the foster home, but when we went back to my Mom and her new husband we did not have a T.V – our new stepfather didn’t believe we should have one . . . or a telephone either(I often think about him while I sit at my computer and talk on my cellphone, I know he is turning over in his grave)he said that he believed all that “modern” stuff was nothing but an invasion of ones privacy.

    It seems to me that I actually trusted the news media back then. I think that they actually did report on the facts and did not interject their own personal opinions into their reports that much. During the political conventions and elections when Eisenhower became President I recall Huntley and Brinkley reporting on both conventions about the same way and with about the same attitude. In contrast to last year’s conventions, there is a world – if not a galaxy – of difference between then and now(my aging over the years notwithstanding).

    In a nutshell, no, I do not trust any of the news media to give me any kind of even a limited biased report, let alone a non-biased report.

    Those days in Journalism are long since gone.

    They have been replaced with the happy go lucky and giddy giggling reports on what the latest Lindsay Lohan or Britney Spears antics have brought on. Or who we can be googleyed over on American Idol or even which politician has been cheating on his wife and with whom.

    Journalism is dead. It has been replaced with opinionated talking heads who tell you only what they think you should know.

    I trust the Internet to find my news sources. I get my information from many different avenues before I can even begin to form an opinion on even the simplest story. Case in point – The two different stories on WHERE Michael Jackson was found not breathing – one said the livingroom floor, another said on a bed. He couldn’t have been at both places at once.

    In closing, all I can say is “Let the reader/viewer/listener beware!”

  3. A few of my jumbled thoughts:

    1) Our local stations aren’t too bad, but then again they are small potatoes. They still lean to the left but if they were blatant about it they would lose viewers, this is the South and most people around here still believe in God and in the Republic.

    2) I don’t watch the news anymore, all my experiences are based on what I was seeing last year. I’m so tired of hearing about all the nasty, horrible, disgusting crap going on locally and around the country. When I did watch the news I was longing to hear one the few positive news stories. A typical local new program was 15 minutes of bad news, 5 minutes of sports and 3 minutes of weather, the rest is commercials. I put the realm of politics in the bad news area. I firmly believe in strengthening the rights of the people and the only thing you hear from all politicians is giving more power to the federal gov’t to do as they wish. How is that good news to anyone?

    3) If the news organizations tell the people something over and over again it eventually is come to be believed as the truth. If all stations but one were like Fox you would still have the same problems. I agree with G. A. Rowe, at one point the news reporters actually reported fairly and accurately and over time became totally side tracked on reporting what they wanted the lemmings to know. The opinion of the reporter is now just as much part of the broadcast as the actual story.

    4)I would not be surprised that if at some point in the future the networks will get into a situation that they need a bailout and the gov’t can take them over. Then the news would be “fair and balanced”. Because isn’t the gov’t doing things in our best interests? ……oops. Started drinking the kool aid too soon.

  4. Everything we say has bias. It is impossible to claim anything that is unbiased. It’s just impossible. We use our rhetoric every day to tell people what we want them to hear. That is bias. Even a simple declarative statement like “the cat is asleep” shows my bias. I want you to know that the cat is asleep. It’s a bias and it’s effective rhetoric. Why tell you something that I do not want you to hear?

    That’s the same with the news networks. Fox News tells us what they want us to hear, especially how the liberals are bad and the conservatives are good and sometimes bad. So because they offer a little of the conservative standpoint, we may believe they are unbiased. But they to cover up what would ruin a good conservative view. The same goes for ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, etc.

    • Alan F. says:

      Sorry but name ANY instance of Fox’s bias for a right subject meeting the same measure shown by ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN for a left. As for your “cat being asleep” the biasing would be shown in “why” its asleep and not in a “state of being” comment like asleep, dead or frozen solid. Were you to pitch that your neighbor’s weed killer gave Fluffy a tumor which is now affecting her sleep and all because of his conservative values, then its time to lower your skirt as your bias is showing and its not in the tumor theory bit.

  5. I get my news from various sources. I tend to watch fox news and cnn the most since they are right next to each other on my TV ;). That way I get both sides of an issue. I never really thought they were in any way unbiased. But I don’t think America wants unbiased, they want to hear people saying what they want to hear. If they are conservatives, they want to hear Hannity and O’Reiley rail away, and if they are liberal they drink in the kool aid with Olberman and, well, most of the commentators that are not on Fox News. Case in point, check out the prime time scheduling on the news networks. It’s not the news, no, it’s opinion! So when people come home from work, they don’t get news, they get opinion…

    • JB,

      “Case in point, check out the prime time scheduling on the news networks. It’s not the news, no, it’s opinion! So when people come home from work, they don’t get news, they get opinion…”

      Great point!!!

      • Alan F. says:

        We’ve been carrying that tune all along on this board which is in part why I stuck around. Everything is biased by the individuals involved, always.

  6. Vinnster says:

    The Liberal bias has always been there, it is just more people recognize it now and they are much more “in your face” than they use to be. Again I go back to Vietnam reporting to when I realized the Left controlled the message, but back then all you had was Liberal news…then came Rush and then the Internet and finally Fox News.

    Anyone who was around when Reagan was president knows, every news story basically presented Reagan as Satan and a Fascist to the opposite degree the current MSM presents Obama as The Messiah that blatantly break any law he wishes (even laws he championed like the AG firing laws)and the literally swoon and worship him. It is funny now watching Obama and the Government controlling business after business and the word Fascist is never used.

    I had a local kid doing some yard work this past week. He was inquisitive, real smart and looking for answers about what is in store for America’s future. I advised him to study the rise of Hitler as the best example of the Obama phenomenon and what to watch for…youth army and all. I advised him when you literally worship a leader, you turn a blind eye to anything and the Liberals are in lock-step (pun intended)with Obama as he moves to limit American’s freedoms every day.

    As far as the MSM goes I expect it to go more like Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez’s press. ABC is already there with all the others competing to see who can swoon the most. No matter what they say, Liberals are going to try and shut down conservative talk radio, Fox News and somehow get some control over the free flow of information on the Internet.

    • Alan F. says:

      I’m sorry Vinnster but I have to take exception to the “swoon” bit. As a teenage boy I was lucky enough to have my girlfriends act the same… unless that’s a type-o and you meant “spoon” but that was always after the act.

  7. I dont really watch mainstream news anymore. They are all bias in their own right. Every station has its own way of spinning the news to fit the beliefs they are trying to get across. Sad but true. No one just reports the facts anymore.

  8. Ray Hawkins says:

    So you’re carping that the Republicans (supposedly) didn’t get to buy air time for a show (in your words) nobody watched anyway?

    You’re more important question is at the bottom. Objectivity is a rare commodity nowadays – that I can agree with.

    • Carping? Why would a opposite viewpoint not be welcomed? Could the President’s plan not withstand debate?

      • Ray Hawkins says:

        Are you suggesting that any airtime Michael Steel would have purchased (to run his own commercials) would have been targeted at an opposing viewpoint specific to what the President was outlining in his time and in his Q&A, OR, would it have been more Republican “Just say no” diversionary tactics that would have driven the debate away from the core issues in the core of the Democratic plan? I’m certain that the Republicans have all their pre-baked content and talking points ready to roll in 30-60 soundbites, but how would they have known what specifically was going to be addressed in that time such that their message was beneficial to the end viewer regardless of party affiliation or where you stand on this issue? More likely it would have been the high level talking points and nothing substantive to what was being presented. That isn’t bias, that is ostensibly providing a more focused message for the audience that did tune in to hear.

    • There’s the rub here Ray and you said it yourself “buy air time for a show” and what ABC did. In what way was Obama’s free ABC infomercial not exactly an infomercial? The data was woefully short on substance, at times staggering in its omissions and carried that same taint Scientology leaves in its wake.

      The day will come when this new faith will be open to scrutiny by those not of its congregation from places advantaged with an unrestricted view of what’s been going on and in such a time as that, the theft by Bernie Madoff will pale in comparison.

    • USWeapon says:

      So you’re carping that the Republicans (supposedly) didn’t get to buy air time for a show (in your words) nobody watched anyway?

      Incorrect Ray. I am carping that the Republicans (according to ABC’s own admission) didn’t get to buy air time for a show (in Neilsons ratings) nobody watched anyway.

      At any rate you are trying to simplify it into a silly statement that puts two different parts of the topic together that have nothing to do with it. That is a political tactic used by the dishonest media. Don’t resort to that. I expect better from you. They were not allowed to buy air time, a fact that ABC admits, and a fact that in my opinion shows their bias.

      Additionally, no one watched, which in my opinion coincides with polling data from Pew and Rasmussen that shows only about 5% of Americans think that health care insurance is a big problem in this country. It seems the only people who think it is a crisis that the government needs to solve fast, probably with a 3,000 page bill that no one reads and that is passed in one day with no debate, are those in the government.

      • Ray Hawkins says:

        (1) The path and approach were wrong – either all the big networks carry it or no one at all. If the conservatives or Republicans want to make hay, I suggest they develop a plan that is something more than 5 pages of crap that John Boehner writes in crayon – then maybe people will start to take them more seriously than whiners and crybabies.

        (2) As for bias – pls see my response to Terry. You ought to know better than to think that Michael Steele wanted anything more than to pump in some high level, slicked up, the black-helicopters-are-coming-to-get-you rhetoric that would do nothing to serve the current debate.

        • Alan F. says:

          Ray, from what I’ve read president Obama put it to the Republicans to “come up with a plan to do what I want, you don’t believe government’s business and do it on a scale grand enough that I’ll accept” yet you would feign surprise that a half hearted attempt was all he got? I’d be ashamed for the sad little Republican who put forth anything. President Obama might as well have asked for the Republicans to come up with a plan for an unrestricted late term abortion drive through.

          The ad wasn’t going to be “black helicopters” it was going to be a small child standing in line to pay for her $10 Baby Ruth tugs on her mother’s hand then asks, “Why do we have to learn Chinese?”

  9. Ray Hawkins says:

    No. 1 – I didn’t watch it so I don’t know if they had opposing voices in the actual ‘session’ or not.

    No. 2 – I see nothing wrong with them limiting partisan commercials during the airing. Allowing Michael Steele to jackpot the hour would likely just draw attention away from the core of the program.

    No. 3 – 4.7 million viewers.

    • No. 1…I didn’t watch it either…along with about 295 Million other people. I pretty much know what it is all about already.

      No. 2…I don’t believe a couple of commercials could be construed as jackpotting the hour. I regularly see global warming and healthcare infomercials on the Fox News channel.

      No. 3…The MSM is way in the tank for President Obama…this is simply further evidenc of that.

    • I didn’t remember seeing these guys but I didn’t last that long.

      EXCLUSIVE: President Obama Defends Right to Choose Best Care
      In ABC News Health Care Forum, President Answers Questions About Reform
      By JAKE TAPPER and KAREN TRAVERS

      President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that wealthier, more powerful people — like the president himself — wouldn’t face.

      …Dr. Orrin Devinsky, a neurologist and researcher at the New York University Langone Medical Center, said that elites often propose health care solutions that limit options for the general public, secure in the knowledge that if they or their loves ones get sick they will be able to afford the best care available, even if it’s not provided by insurance.

      Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn’t seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he’s proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.

      The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if “it’s my family member, if it’s my wife, if it’s my children, if it’s my grandmother I always want them to get the very best care.”

      “There’s a whole bunch of care that’s being provided that every study, that every bit of evidence that we have indicates may not be making us healthier,” he said.

      Gibson interjected that often patients don’t know what will work until they get every test they can.

      “Often times we know what makes sense and what doesn’t,” the president responded, making a push for evidence-based medicine.

      …Another neurologist, Dr. John Corboy of the University of Colorado Health Science Center, asked the president, “What can you do to convince the American public that there actually are limits to what we can pay for with our American health care system and if there are going to be limits, who’s going to design the system and who’s going to enforce the rules for a system like that? ”

      Obama, however, didn’t directly answer the question.

      • “Obama, however, didn’t directly answer the question.” I think that goes for most of what he says. A day or year later, he can take any of his statements and say it meant the opposite.

        THE SIDESTEP
        From : “The Best Little Whorehouse In Texas”
        (Carol Hall)
        Charles Durning

        Fellow Texans, I am proudly standing here to humbly see.
        I assure you, and I mean it- Now, who says I don’t speak out as plain as day?
        And, fellow Texans, I’m for progress and the flag- long may it fly.
        I’m a poor boy, come to greatness. So, it follows that I cannot tell a lie.

        Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don’t-
        I’ve come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
        cut a little swathe and lead the people on.

        Now my good friends, it behooves me to be solemn and declare,
        I’m for goodness and for profit and for living clean and saying daily prayer.
        And now, my good friends, you can sleep nights, I’ll continue to stand tall.
        You can trust me, for I promise, I shall keep a watchful eye upon ya’ll…

        Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don’t-
        I’ve come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
        cut a little swathe and lead the people on.

        Now, Miss Mona, I don’t know her, though I’ve heard the name, oh yes.
        But, of course I’ve no close contact, so what she is doing I can only guess.
        And now, Miss Mona, she’s a blemish on the face of that good town.
        I am taking certain steps here, someone somewhere’s gonna have to close her down.

        Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don’t-
        I’ve come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
        cut a little swathe and lead the people on.

        Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep…

        And, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step…

        Cut a little swathe and lead the people on.

      • Amazed1 says:

        The problem with governent health care is the governent does not partcipate….if they were made to give up their high class plans and suffer the way the public is gonna suffer they woud change their tune greatly!! It is like SS…the government had their own high class plan we the tax payers pay for.

  10. Ray Hawkins says:

    The forgive and forget time continuum

    Eliot Spitzer is already a featured commentator on the Dylan Ratigan show (yes – MSNBC). Wow we have short memories. Isn’t the book still open on this guy?

  11. DIDN’T WATCH AS I AM SO AGAINST THIS ADMINISTRATION, EVERYTHING THEY TELL YOU IS GOING TO BENEFIT THEIR WALLETS, THEY TAKE ALL THEY CAN, AND LIE ABOUT WHERE IT WENT AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE DID TO A REPORTER WHO ASKED, YOU PRINTED A TRILLION DOLLARS AND SENT IT WHERE, THE MANAGER SAID, WE ONLY PRINT, WE DON’T KNOW WHO GETS THE MONEY, YEAH, RIGHT, CHECK A FEW POCKETS, I BET MORE BILLIONAIRES ARE MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND ALL THEIR CZARS THAN EVER BEFORE, I ALWAYS WONDERED IN MY FEEBLE BRAIN WHY ALL PRESIDENTS END OF MILLIONAIRES, BRIBES, POWER HUNGRY PAYING FOR FAVORS. WHERE IS THERE A WORLD WHERE AN HONEST VETERAN OF WW2 WITH DISABILITY, CAN GO AND BE TREATED FAIRLY?

  12. Hyjacking: This just in – SCOTUS ruled in favor of white firefighters reversing Sotomayor’s (and others) decision.

  13. I wonder if anyone is unbiased enough to cover live the Americans who are presenting interesting statements about Obama’s legal right to be in The White House. So amany avenues refuse. John McCain was gracious. Why not this person?

  14. No, there are no unbiased news sources. The internet, where you can get a multitude of many different opinions is the way to go.

  15. The awakening of Illusion,

    Forgive the melodramaa, but what fun is a serious discussion without humor. Several years ago, the media began reporting numerous child abductions. My reaction was to get a concealed carry permit. The next year was the summer of the shark. Shark attacks were on the rise said all the networks. Then I find out, there were fewer that year than the one before. And the child abductions were overstated. Both were media made crisis. And I fell for them.

    Since then, I try to check out the accuracy of any stories I feel are of interest. Finding this site, with others with similar outlooks has been refreshing. I chose my monickier from the Joe Walsh song where he says,”And see thru the hole in this wall of confusion”. I now think most of MSM has an
    agenda, that seems to be to lead the US to become socialist or communist.

    As Vinnster said,”I advised him to study the rise of Hitler as the best example of the Obama phenomenon and what to watch for”. We are seeing history repeat itself, a charismatic leader telling people what they want to hear, and a propaganda bureau that lies, distorts and covers up the truth.

  16. Morning All

    We only watch our local news, then switch over to Fox. Does that make us bias? We just happen to like O’Rielly and Hannity, and as far as I can tell, they do have the opposite viewpoint on their programs.

  17. I guess I will go to internet for unbiased info. Just learned EPA, under threat, buried data showing global warming wasn’t a critical issue.Carol Brown at EPA since Clinton, has been doing this kind of supression. I think truth may be finally getting air. So long, Al Gore and fellow scammers.

    • Betcha a dollar its not covered except on fox. Its not “newsworthy”.

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      Can you share where you learned this?

      • Black Flag says:

        I posted the “Carbongate” story in the Tues. open Mic thread…

        …here it is again…
        The article:
        http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-9111-SF-Environmental-Policy-Examiner~y2009m6d25-The-EPAs-internal-nightmare-over-global-warming-Part-1

        The document that prompted the article:
        http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/Endangerment%20Comments%206-23-09.pdf

        The censored document:
        http://cei.org/news-release/2009/06/25/cei-releases-global-warming-study-censored-epa

        The email that blew the whistle:

        anonymous (17:51:36) :

        Folks, I work at EPA and am unfortunate enough to actually know exactly what happened. Alan Carlin knows more about climate change science than most of the people on the EPA work group that wrote the endangerment proposal. The claim that he is simply an economist is a deep disservice to Alan and is patently false. Further, the work group refused to consider his arguments because they “don’t know how to weigh them against the IPCC report” – suggesting they won’t be able to evaluate the public comments either. Notably, others at EPA agree with Alan’s analysis which EPA will make public (so they say). If they actually release the report Alan sent forward, and don’t take his extremely critical statements out, it will embarrass the Agency badly. That will be a shame, but it is what the Agency has earned for itself.

        I would like to give my name, but I don’t wish to be punished in the same manner as Alan.

        This is a deeply sad set of events for EPA and for the nation.

      • Ray:

        Following is one link to get you looking. I read the actual email discussion between the EPA employee/scientist and news editor assuring annonymity the other day but can’t find the same story this AM. I think it might have been the Washington Times.

        http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10274412-38.html

        You may recall a few months ago I posted a comment about how the “science” was used during the Clinton Admin by the Alogorians and asked the rhetorical question if this was the “objective science” Mr. Obama keeps touting. This EPA story is typical of what has happened under the last two Dem. Administrations. Of course it then happens when the Rep. get elected.

        So this raises the ODD question of which Admin is interfering with the science. The one that covers up the dissent against global warming or the one that covers up the dissent supporting global warming. Remember the Dem’s were calling for the EPA directors resignation not long ago because he wouldn’t support the green house gas is pollution point of view in testimony. So was he really covering up something or was there really legitimate doubts?

        As I said recently, I don’t trust my government anymore!!!!

        All Govt agencies are politicized more than ever. Some have always been bad but now it has spread to all I can think of.

        Best Wishes
        JAC

      • How about the Times?

        ttp://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2009/06/26/26greenwire-two-epa-staffers-question-science-behind-clima-89720.html

  18. Probably right there. I did send the EPA revelation on to my (D) Rep who of course, voted Yes for Cap and Trade. He will not get my vote next go round.

  19. We did not watch the Obama informercial on the All Barack Channel, can only stand so much of him. I find him to be arrogant and somewhat self righteous when he speaks. Of course, that’s my opinion. As for the other news media, maybe it’s like what Fox says, we report, you decide. Listen to both sides, then form your own opinion. Right now, we do still have that right to our own opinions, or should I say freedom of speech. I wonder how much longer we’ll have for that. My 2 cents worth anyway.

  20. Black Flag says:

    Hulu vs. the Networks: Busting the Mainstream Media’s Agenda

    Go and see http://www.Hulu.com.

    You can watch classic TV shows of an earlier era.

    The shows are funded by advertising.

    But here is the catch: the ads are short – four brief ads per show – only one short ad per break.

    It’s tolerable.

    Guess what? The ads are bringing in piles of revenue.

    Advertisers pay a premium price.

    Why? Because everyone is still watching. It doesn’t pay to take a break to miss a brief ad.

    Advertisers are paying more to buy time on Hulu than the networks, where they pay to share time with several other companies.

    Meanwhile, network audiences are shrinking. People are being to prefer the Web or Netflix.

    The challenge for the networks, whose total prime-time audience shrank 3.6 percent last season, is that Web viewing and ad sales, while increasing, are still too small to replace traditional revenue sources. . . .

    Santa Clara-based<b?sites including Hulu, which streams TV shows from NBC, Fox and soon ABC, as part of a $100 million worldwide marketing campaign, said Arlene Villanueva, global media director for Intel. . . .

    Nathanson, based in New York, estimates ad sales at the four networks will drop 10 percent this year to $12.8 billion.

    A pundit said:
    As revenue falls, the ability of the networks to influence public opinion falls. The Establishment media’s rivals offer diverse perspectives. The ideological unanimity that prevails on the networks no longer operates unchallenged.

    If viewers watch older shows, with more traditional content, this undermines the mainstream media’s push to extend the centralization of everything under government auspices.

    It becomes more expensive for the Establishment to maintain the illusion that it is supporting the public interest.

    This process of decentralization makes it easier to change our communities more effectively.

    It also offers ways for small enterprises to compete against the chains.

    The chain stores are under the gun because of the recession. They over expanded. Their media outlets are failing to deliver the audiences.

    Watch Hulu….give the mainstream media more grief. 😉

  21. Bama dad says:

    Howdy boys and girls.
    Another fun Monday grinding along at work, darn that Esom with his summer long vacation, makes me jealous. As today is devoted to media bias let me share a story I read this weekend. I learned loads on why California is in such financial straits. It seems those darn conservatives are all to blame for all the red ink.
    Check this out:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090628/us_time/08599190493800

    And here I thought all this time it was overspending that was the root of all their problems. Who says you can’t teach an old dog a new trick. I’ve been saved, I’ve seen the light.
    😈

    • Propaganda at its finest! That’s some article…..

    • Alan F. says:

      Better yet Bama Dad, according to “The Son” California’s economy is a bastion of environmental success and on par with the rest of America in spite of them being so darned green. With that statement fresh as a daisy, how can California be anything but the paradigm of obamanomics?

      • Yup…you betcha we people here in California are ahead of the “green game”. We absolutely love the scheduled rolling black outs during the hot days of summer. Not only does it save the blue footed tree turtles but it also give those repeat felons the exact areas they can burglarize without the additional worry of alarms or cameras! Maybe we can add a few more social programs in just for the heck of it! Who needs teachers, police or firemen when all you really need to know is how to make a great tofurkey sandwich! idiots

        • Kym,

          I think “the One” has heard your plight, and answered.

          The president says that 7 percent of all energy consumed in America goes to light people’s homes and businesses, and that if the newer, more restrictive energy efficiency standards truly take hold, there could a savings of $4 billion a year by 2022.

          Dontcha feel better?

          • Of course I feel better!! No more dirty factories polluting our air, less energy used and a whole lot more people on welfare because all the jobs have move to Sri Lanka!! Sounds like a win win to me!!

            I should go sign up for food stamps now and beat the rush. Oh wait…hubby has a military retirement check each month. Better divorce him first THEN off to climb on the Gravy Train!!

    • WOW! Those folks ought to be arrested by the thought police for being soooooo hateful.

      I am a former resident of CA and I voted FOR prop 13. Why? Because our property taxes were totally out of control, going up by leaps and bounds every year. The home we owned was actually purchased from a state legislator who had to move because of liberals redistricting plans.

      What this article fails to point out is that once you sell your home the tax cap is no longer in place. Furthermore, it does not apply to new construction that took place after prop 13 went into effect, just for those existing homes prior to prop 13.

      Oh, and the community college system now having the students pay for it? Thank all those good illegal aliens coming here to get a free education! – Oh, but that is what the LIBERALS wanted them to do . . . What a crock!

      • Judy S. says:

        Good Evening G.A.

        My sister lives in Calif, and here is what she’s been going through of late, well for the last few months anyway. She works for the Oakland Police Dept, has been there for almost 11 years. A few months ago, she got her hours cut, which meant her pay got cut. Her house payment has gone up, her property taxes have gone up, her utilities have gone up, everything has gone up. Anyway she has been looking for a second which she hasn’t had any luck in, she’s fallen behind in her house payments, tried to get refinanced, no luck, banks won’t even talk to her she said. She owes more on the house than what it’s worth,we have the same problem here in Reno. So now she’s not sure if she should stay or to just walk away from it.Actually, it’s the house I grew up in some 40 odd years ago. My dad passed away in 1998, my brother passed away in 1992, which just left my mom and her. Now, my mother lives with us,so my sister more or less took over the house, thinking she could maybe stay there until she reached the age of 66, she’ll be 63 next month. She said things were going fine until Obama took over and things went to hell. I’m not trying to give a sad story here or anything, just telling what she has been going through for the last few months. She said that some of the police are doing jobs that the civilians were doing because of cuts, plus she said that they might be cutting some of the police officers too. She said they cut so many jobs there, that it’s surprising that there is still a police department there. On top of all that, she said she’s in jeopardy of losing her job as well. She’s not just blaming Obama, she puts a lot of the blame on Arnold too. I know, things are bad all over, heck, they’re even bad here in Reno too. Job losses have gone up to 12%, foreclosures are still going up, houses are selling a little, but people are taking a loss because of the economy, that’s why we’re not even going to try and sell ours. Our house last year was worth $350,000, is now worth only 168,000, that’s why we’re staying put. Be lucky you don’t live in Calif anymore, I’m glad we moved from the 19 years ago, and came to Reno, besides Jim, my husband has family living here. Just thought I would share that experience with you and everybody else.

        Hope you have a good night.

        Judy.

  22. Amazed1 says:

    Yes the media is biased! But it has been going on a long time….as a little girl I can remember sitting and watching Presidental speeches on TV (everyone watched it, it was on all three channels). When the speech was done there was ALWAYS an hour long commentary on what the President said. It would make my Mom so mad she would turn them off as she said “do those people think we are a bunch of idiots? incapable of understanding what the man said without the commentators putting in their two cents and twisting his words”.
    Well we are 50 years down the road and the news commentators are still twisting words.
    If it isn’t in direct quotes I generally throw it out..don’t watch the news very often…just read it.

    • Hello!

      Yea, don’t you just love it when the newscaster says, ” What he meant to say is” or and I love this one. ” Well, what I think he’s saying is”. We don’t need an interpreter on what people are saying.

      Judy

  23. Black Flag says:

    Aside:

    Kent’s 100th Column with the Albuquerque Libertarian Examiner –
    http://www.examiner.com/x-5723-Albuquerque-Libertarian-Examiner~y2009m6d29-Immigration-amnesty-and-biometrics

    Drop by and say hi to him – he’s the cause and reason of Black Flag finding USWep’s site – so go and irritate him back on his blog!

    • Thank BF but he is either too smart for me so that I don’t really get it, or he applies theories where the basis changes and he doesn’t modify his theory. oh well.

  24. Hi Ya’ll!! I’m still here, just not as much lately. Good read and good input from all.

    I will be reading and learning from all

    PEACE!

    G!

  25. Ray Hawkins says:

    Fox News is not biased?

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200906300018

    Gotta hate those left side watchdogs.

    • Well, Ray, I personally don;t like newbusters for the way they present stuff or the tone or whatever and rarely will follow a link there, similarly why I don’t like listening to Limbaugh or Hannity and only a bit of OReilly now and then. However, I took the challenge and read the Krugman piece and have to say that if you agree with Krugman or Stef .. Oh well.

      It is opinion, and I can’t imagine anyone at least saying.. eghhh maybe – unless they’re just so stridently liberal. A carry-over from the Bush hate !! There are times that I read some other sites and at least I say — eghhh maybe …

      The fact that you’re still talking about the obvious (to me) bias and using liberal bias ie Krugman etal as news when its opinion as is the Limbaugh, hannity etc etc. And somehow attempt to deflect that of the regular news – Fox before 7 pm – compared to MSM news hardly is the most fair and balanced, tho I agree that it tends to the right, but they report on stuff you NEVER even see on MSM.

      Folks never watch any Fox and they criticize it, but if I were to criticize the NYTimes without reading it, you would be correct in making fun of me. The NYTimes is great for stories that have a couple of degrees separation from politics. IE Wine and travel (well most travel)

      • Ray Hawkins says:

        I think you’re confused Frank. I have read Krugman extensively but I do not consider him gospel. I also alternate b/n Fox News, MSNBC (News), Hannity (radio and TV), Limbaugh (radio), Beck (TV – cuz everyone needs someone crazy to laugh at once in a while), Olbermann (TV) and Maddow (TV). If I thought my head would not explode I’d figure out how to watch/hear more. My point is that Fox News is slanted, just maybe not the degree of the others.

      • Well Ray I’m not too confused to know that you write very well !! That you able to fit all those shows in and read this blog – standupforamerica – is quite an akkomplishment !

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