Not Politics Tonight… Easing Back Into the Fray

alaska_flagWhew…. I have to say that I have missed being able to interact on the site. Paying 75 cents a minute is simply not possible when the Tuesday night post ends up with close to 900 comments! But I am back from my excursion to the Great White Northwest. It was a beautiful and restful trip. Rather than jumping right into the politics this evening I figured I would share a bit of my trip with all of you. I am hoping that no one finds it too boring that I do so. For those that are not interested in hearing about my trip or seeing any of the pictures that I took, I understand. Fear not, tomorrow we go back to our regularly scheduled programming and discussing politics. But for tonight, I ease back into the everyday writing practice of the blog. So what has kept me from my wonderful readers these last ten days or so? Alaska and Canada, my friends. And I wish I didn’t have to come back from up there….

The trip was a family outing of sorts. The trip was an Alaskan Cruise, something we have been wanting to do together for quite some time. We took my wife’s 88 year old grandmother (my father-in-law’s mom) with us. We took Grandma across the country with us and met the rest of the group in Seattle. Also on the trip were my in-laws, along with 5 other of the grandmother’s children and some of their spouses. This made Mrs. Weapon and I the absolute youngest on the trip as the only ones from our generation in the family, a fact that neither of us minded a bit. It was good quality time with the family while on the boat and it left us free to hike and explore when we were docked in a city. A nice mix of family time and time for the wife and I to get out and be one with nature. All the pictures that I will share here were taken by myself or Mrs. Weapon.

Mendenhall Glacier

Mendenhall Glacier

We started in Seattle with a trip to the Space Needle and Pike Place Market (where they famously throw the fish). Both were cool and it was nice to see Mt. Ranier again. It had been years for me. And on Saturday, we boarded the ship and headed out to sea and north. After a day at sea we arrived in Juneau, the capitol of Alaska. What a time to arrive there as Sarah Palin had just the day before announced her resignation as Governor of the state. The town was abuzz with speculation about why. Juneau is a small city for a capitol city. There are no roads that you can take to Juneau. You have to go in by boat or by plane. There are no roads into Juneau. That puts a new spin on the fact that the Governor didn’t live there full time doesn’t it?

Ms Baltimore

Ms. Baltimore

But Juneau is a beautiful city. We began with a trip out to Mendenhall Glacier. Mendenhall Glacier is a glacier about 12 miles long located in Mendenhall Valley, about 12 miles from downtown Juneau.It extends from the massive Juneau Ice Fields. It was unusually warm in Juneau that day, in the mid-80’s. Mrs. Weapon and I decided to do some hiking. There is a large waterfall off of the right side of the glacier, that is about a 2 mile hike through the woods to get to, so we decided to trek out there. Standing at the base of that waterfall with 50 degree wind blowing off of it was an amazing feeling. I decided to do some rock climbing and climbed up about 300 feet to get to a very small waterfall and took some amazing pictures of it (we took over 1,000 pictures up there). The glacier, like 99% of the glaciers in Alaska, is receding. They have been doing so since long before our industrial revolution, however.

View from Trails behind Mt Roberts

View from Trails behind Mt Roberts

Back to Juneau we went after a morning spent hiking and climbing. We saw the Governor’s mansion and took in the city itself. At around 4:00, we decided to take the Mt. Roberts Tram to the top of that mountain. At the top we paid a visit to Miss Baltimore, an injured Bald Eagle that lives in a cage at the top. We then took to the trails again and hiked about 4 miles up and down mountains, even getting high enough for me to play in the snow. The scenery was beautiful and we reluctantly hiked back to the Tram and back down the mountain, as the ship was pulling out at 8:00. We said goodbye to Juneau. On the way back down the Gastineau Channel between Douglas Island and the mainland, we saw herds of sea lions huddled on shore, Killer Whales, and several pairs of humpback whales. The whales were putting on a show, leaping completely out of the water and crashing back down with gigantic splashes. It was a sight to see. We got to see a lot of whales on this trip, but none of them ever lived up to the show this first pair put on for us as we headed for Skagway.

View From the Train

View From the Train

After sailing through the night we arrived at 7:00 am in the port of Skagway, Alaska. A tiny town with a year round population of about 700 people. Skagway was the launching point for the Klondike gold rush in the late 1890’s. This town was as close as you could get to the gold fields by boat. From here, prospectors had to do the final 600 miles on foot through the harsh Alaskan landscape. Eventually they built the White Pass & Yukon Railway, which stretched for 100 miles northward into British Columbia to get people partway there. This lone track is still in service today, although it only does scenic tours up to Canada and back again. It takes about 6 hours. The whole family took the train ride and we ended up with some beautiful pictures and a memorable ride.

skagway TresselThe train takes a path along the sides of mountains and across breathtaking tressels. Along the way you cross into Canada, specifically British Columbia, and head toward the Yukon. The train ride was awesome and I highly recommend it to anyone who is taking a journey to Skagway. Without that train ride, Skagway would have been an OK stop. With the train ride, it was an unbelievable stop. After the train ride, we grabbed some lunch and took in the sights of the small town of Skagway. There is not much other than tourist shops there any longer. We visited the Haven bar, the Klondike Gold Rush Museum, and a host of other interesting sites. However there was one particularly interesting stop in town…. The Red Onion Saloon.  The saloon which operated as a brothel during the rush, has maintained the brothel upstairs as a tour. The tour is $5 and given by a woman dressed to the period and playing the part of a lady of the night. The tour takes 15 minutes and is well worth it just for the experience. At 8:00 pm we sailed again. On the way out we passed the small town of Haine, sitting at the base of a mountain. Haine was once an Army outpost during WWII, and battles were fought on the Alaskan islands.

Tracy Arm WaterlineTracy Arm WaterfallWe set the alarm for 7:00 am and got up to take in 6 hours of travel up and then back down in Tracy Arm. Tracy Arm Fjord is a narrow valley leading up to the twin Sawyer Glaciers. The narrow valley is about 30 miles long and filled with floating icebergs that have broken off the glaciers and are heading down towards the ocean. At times the passage is narrow enough that we were literally 100 meters from the valley walls. Sea lions were everywhere as they come into the fjord to use the icebergs as protection for their pups from the killer whales, which were everywhere. We saw tons of wildlife including our first Bald Eagle nest, with proud mama sitting on a branch beside it. Tracy Arm Fjord may be the most beautiful place I have ever been. We took well over 300 pictures during our 6 hours there. We sailed up to the glaciers, turned around, and sailed out, heading for Katchikan.

Katchikan Eagles in TreeKatchikan, Alaska is the Salmon Capital of the World (according to them). They did have a lot of Salmon, for sure. And what do Salmon bring in? Bears and Eagles. And Katchikan has lots of both. We went up to Herring Cove, where there were literally over a hundred Bald Eagles hanging around. In some trees, there would be 10-15 in a tree, sitting above the Salmon below. They would fly down whenever they felt the desire, grab one, and fly back up to eat it. It was an amazing sight to see. If you ever wanted to see wild Bald Eagles in action, Katchikan is the place to do it. After spending a while watching the eagles hunt and eat, we decided to head up to the Totem Pole park, where there are tons of totem poles salvaged from abandoned villages.

Katchikan Totem ParkThe park was beautiful and it was interesting to learn about the totems and what the different things on them meant. There were several devoted to Seward, who purchased Alaska and went up there. He was thrown great parties, with the expectation of returning the favor. He left Alaska and never returned the favor. So the natives hated him for disrespecting them and there are consequently some poles where he is portrayed upside down. The most interesting part of the park, however, was the 700 pound nest belonging to a Bald Eagle just outside the park. You could walk right up to the tree. I got some great shots of the mama Eagle bringing in food to the baby that was in the nest and then feeding it. After watching this for a while we went back into town and did some shopping. We boarded back up on the ship and headed towards Victoria.

Legislature Building

Legislature Building

Victoria is the capitol of British Columbia in Canada. It is one of the most beautiful cities I have seen in North America. Located on the southern tip of Vancouver Island, has a temperate climate with mild, damp winters and relatively dry and mild summers. The legislature building is an amazing piece of work. It was designed by a 25 year old architect who lied about his experience in order to get the job. Across the street is the beautiful Empress Hotel, with ivy climbing its walls. The city has lots of gardens and flowers. Both Mrs. Weapon and I agreed that we could easily move to this city in the future, both for its own beauty and culture, and its proximity ti Vancouver and Alaska. It may, in fact, be our future destination when we are ready to relocate yet again.

Empress Hotel

Empress Hotel

We got an absolutely horrible guided tour on the back of a bike that pulls two people behind it. They guy really knew nothing so we just took pictures and decided we would research what we took pictures of when we got home (to regular internet prices!). But we did get to see China Town, which is one of the oldest China Towns in North America. It is also home to the narrowest street in Canada, FanFan Alley. We learned that Victoria gets no snow at all about one out of every three years and the city averages 2-3 days a year with about 2 inches of snow on the ground. Their total annual precipitation averages about 24 inches per year. Because of this temperate climate, they are able to maintain a massive amount of gardens, which has led to them being dubbed the city of gardens. Overall Victoria was a wonderful part of Canada that I was really glad that we were finally able to see.

And then we sadly headed back to Seattle and our boring regular scenery of sand dunes and scrub pine trees (truly the ugliest pine trees on earth here in Carolina). Overall, I have to say that my wife an I both thought the trip was amazing and one of the best we had ever been on. You gain a whole new perspective on Alaska and Canada by going up there, taking in the views, and breathing that fresh air. It was my wife’s first trip to Alaska and she absolutely fell in love with it. We will be heading to western Canada and Alaska more frequently in the future. I highly recommend taking a cruise of the inside passage. It is unforgettable and beautiful. But make sure your cruise stops in Skagway and visits the Tracy Arm Fjord. Many of the cruises of the inside passage skip those two things, and they were among our favorite parts.

A few more photos to share:

Katchikan Eagle Carrying FishKatchikan Eagle Sitting by Nest

Katchikan Old HouseSkagway Sunset

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Comments

  1. Hey USW!

    You took the trip that I want to take and will in about two years or so.

    Glad you enjoyed seeing the mountain under which shadow I was whelped and grew up. Mt. Rainier is a beautiful place, although I do not miss all the rain and cold.

    FYI – we will be heading out in August for a while and will be almost computer free during that time. Will let you know about it when we get back. Special occaision type of thing – anniversary time.

  2. Vinnster says:

    My wife and I took our vacation in Alaska this year and we agree it was the best vacation ever. Ten days starting in Anchorage then driving down to Seward and Homer then Denali/Fairbanks. I would encourage everyone to visit Alaska at least once.

    It is a rugged land where houses are built in stages, animals roam everywhere and it is Internet wire better than most lower states. No matter where we were, and we staying in some out of the way places , there was always an Internet connection available(we took no computers to use it though) Surprisingly the food in the restaurants was better than anywhere we have ever been (including Europe). Lots of Alaskan beer brewers offer some great tasting beers. The sun being up 21 hours a day with their “night” more like dusk, to us, plays with your sleeping patterns.

    Wasilla was a real surprise. The MSM portrayed it as a little tiny hick town when in reality it is a big place as modern as any city in the lower forty-eight.

    It is a physical state with long stretches of nothing but wilderness and then a patch of humanity. Ever view is like a post card. You could be there for years and never hike, kayak, canoe, or camp it all. My favorite sign was a National Forest sign about the local animal dangers. For Brown bears (grizzly) it reads: If Brown Bear attacks, play dead unless it starts to eat you, then fight back!

    I highly recommend it, at least once. We did the driving tour this time, we plan to go back and do what USW did and do some cruises.

    • Godzilla says:

      vinnster, did the same trip a couple of years ago in an RV, if anyone goes there’s a camping place where you can setup right next to the Matanuska Glacier .. amazing!!

  3. Robert C says:

    Welcome back.

  4. Welcome home USW….been there and that is pretty country. I used to fish at lake Illiamna…great fishing and a beautiful state.

  5. Murphy's Law says:

    USW,

    Your pictures are fantastic…….I’ve never been to Alaska, but hope to go someday. Good to have you back (even if you wish you were still there!).

  6. Ray Hawkins says:

    Welcome back! Sounds like an astounding trip – a much larger version of when my wife and I visited Maine last year and spent a lot of time on the coast and in Acadia. I’ll have to add Alaska to the list of places to visit.

  7. Murphy's Law says:

    And a very good morning to the rest of you as well…….it’s a beautiful morning here but will be HOT HOT HOT by this afternoon. This is Texas after all, already almost 85 according to my thermometer but nice if you are in the shade with a breeze…….the more I think about it the more I think Alaska would be a great place to be right now- for a visit. Then I want to come home to Texas!!!

  8. I did that cruise two years ago and just loved it. Did you get up to Hubbard glacier? That was another amazing site. When we went to Skagway, we skipped the train ride and went on our own hike where we saw multiple bears and eagles. So our Skagway stop was not that bad.

    Also, is it not Ketchikan rather than Katchikan?

  9. USW- great pictures. I have been to Alaska a few times now. It is hard to put in words how amazing it is. I have been to Ketchikan, Homer, Delani, Juneau and Anchorage. I took the train from Anchorage up to Denali National Park. Just amazing views. I also took a road down into the Yukon, which I would take again. Welcome back!

  10. Welcome home USW. We took a cruise to Alaska back in 94, and it was a gorgeous site to see. We were a little disappointed in Juneau because it was either a slight rain, or some very damp fog. Still can’t figure that out. We took that trip in June, so don’t know if that had anything to do with it.

    We also went to ( Ketchikan or Katchikan ). My husband and son’s wanted to take the same train ride, but they missed because it was earlier than they thought, 6:00 a.m. and we weren’t even up yet. Oh well. We went along the inside passage and saw some of the biggest glaciers ever.

    We were on the 7 day cruise, and couldn’t have been treated better, like royalty. Waited on us hand and foot, anything we needed, they got. I was kind of disappointed by the trip, only because we didn’t have a long enough stay at some of the ports, and it didn’t give us enough time to really see the sites. But still, well worth the trip though.

    We took video pictures while there and got some great footage of Alaska, and all the beautiful scenery. Trouble is, we lost our videos and can’t find them anywhere, darn it.

    You took some really great pictures, and I’m hoping that maybe you can put more up, would love to see them. Again, welcome back home. Good to get away, but always glad to get back home, at least for me anyway.

    Have a great day USW.

    Judy

  11. This post brought to you by the Alaska Tourism Board. LOL You’ve got me convinced. Now, when I become a RICH anarchist I’ll know what to spend some of my money on.

    • Ahhh Kent, you would love it. The place is full of anarchists and various shades of rebells.

      You don’t have to be rich to go there and stay. Just take your Gypsie Wagon. You can put in on a Ferry and cost is not too much if you depart from B.C. instead of the U.S.

      The Best to You this Morning
      JAC

  12. When we went to Alaska, we of course started here in Reno, then made several stops at several airports. We landed in Seattle, then took a 3 hour bus ride to Vancouver where the cruise began. When the cruise was over, the boat docked in Seward or Seaward , then it was another 3 hour bus ride back to Seattle. Saw some great scenery, but it was a long 3 hours, especially when you had an 11 and 8 year old boys at the time. Typical questions from them was, ” Are we there yet, and how much longer? “.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Alaska, go, it’ll be worth it. Just make sure you have plenty of film, and/or a video camera to take some pictures of the most beautiful places you’ll ever see.

  13. USW – Welcome back! What a wonderful trip and pics – thanks for sharing. I’ve never been there, but it is on “my list”.

  14. Black Flag says:

    The magic of the far North, for me, was the never-ending daytime (during summer) and the never-ending night (winter).

    My first week there during summer, I didn’t sleep for days. My body saw the sun, and kept saying “Day time, wakey wakey!” until I collapsed in a chair and fell asleep.

    My first week there during winter, it was hard to wake up. Night all day long is rather depressing too. But the stars and ‘northern lights’ were always spectacular.

    • Black Flag says:

      And during the winter, the image of all the vehicles left on and running 24 hours a day so they don’t freeze.

  15. Black Flag says:

    John Quincy Adams on U.S. Foreign Policy (1821)

    July 4, 1821 – –

    And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?

    Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government.

    America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.

    She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.

    She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own.

    She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.

    She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

    Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.

    But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

    She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

    She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

    She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

    She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.

    The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force….

    She mightbecome the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit….

    [America’s] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.

    John Quincy Adams served as U. S. Secretary of State, he delivered this speech to the U.S. House of Representatives on July 4, 1821, in celebration of American Independence Day.
    ……

    He would be a Black Flag today, seeing how easy this nation became precisely what he feared.

    • Okay, so let’s get up off our collective butts and make it right again.

      I know, I know . . . easier said than done.

      And it will take time, so . . . time’s a wasting.

      It took a long time to get here and if we keep dragging our collective feet it will take even longer to get back.

      Beware, beware, Obamacare is near and it will sneak up and bite you right where you don’t want it to!

      Been having `puter problems for a while now – just getting this thing starting to work a little like it should be doing. Don’t know why it went on the fritz in the first place but it did right after the latest Microsoft Windows Update. I am not a programmer (like most other folks who have these things and are progressively more dependent on them every day) so I have no idea as to what makes them tick inside – just know how to put the hardware together.

      • Black Flag says:

        So how do we know what ‘is right’?

        Without knowing that, the odds are, we’ll end up worse than we are now.

        How do you know, GA, which path is right or not?

        Flip a coin?

        • So how did the founding fathers know?

          How did the framers of our Constitution know?

          Lets get back to what they framed. Obviously they got it right, we are the ones who let it go to pot, so nowit is up to us to put it right again.

          However, I know that good ole BF don’t think that way. BF doesn’t want any kind of government even though history has shown us that is exactly what we do need.

          But good ole BF wants us all to be just like Somalia . . . methinks Bf has been watching too many Hollywood “Doom & Gloom” movies . . . “The Road Warrior” kind of comes to mind – or “The Chronicles of Riddick”, or maybe the more recent “Babylon AD”.

          You just gotta get out more, BF, you just gotta . . . USW did! 😉

        • Actually, it comes under the heading of “When in doubt, read the instructions”

          The instructions are called “The Constitution of The United States of America”

          The blueprint was right on . . . we the maintainers did not follow the instructions that the architects gave us . . . 😦

          • Black Flag says:

            So how did the founding fathers know?

            They started with a moral basis – liberty – and tried to build from there.

            They failed – primarily Hamilton appealed to the delegates’ pragmatism that overruled Jefferson’s principles.

            That is why they failed – and I believe you wish to repeat the same mistake.

            How did the framers of our Constitution know?

            They framed a disaster.

            You’re living it now.

            Lets get back to what they framed. Obviously they got it right, we are the ones who let it go to pot, so nowit is up to us to put it right again.

            As JAC said perfectly;

            Either it was wrong to start with, or powerless to stop what happened.

            Either way, it was horrific faulty.

            However, I know that good ole BF don’t think that way. BF doesn’t want any kind of government even though history has shown us that is exactly what we do need.

            We need government about as much as we need to be hanging with a rope around our necks.

            You just gotta get out more, BF, you just gotta . . . USW did! 😉

            Good sir, I have probably lived (not just visited) more countries and in more places than you.

            • anoninnc says:

              BF

              Perhaps I missed it; but, since you seem so anti-constiition, anti-american experiment, just what would you accept as a viable alternative? If I am asking you to be redundant, I apoplgize sincerely.

              • Black Flag says:

                No apology necessary.

                That is exactly the dialogue we are leading to.

                But first and most important, we need to establish the immutable moral principle on which to base our ‘viable alternative’.

                If our principle is as immoral as the one we wish to replace, then what have we truly accomplished?

            • “Good sir, I have probably lived (not just visited) more countries and in more places than you.”

              Perhaps, but did you understand the vast differences between our respective governments?

              And what I meant was get out of the computer room, you know, go out into our wonderful country before it doesn’t exist any more . . .

              FYI – I did “courier service duty” for a while back in the day . . . got to go to a number of places other folks only got to think about. Some of it was fun, other times gave me some concern . . . 🙂

              • Black Flag says:

                Certainly I saw.

                But what I also saw, beneath the illusion layer, was a core, systemic, premise in all governments regardless of what ‘-archy’.

                All were predicated on the self-assumed right to use violence on non-violent people.

    • Murphy's Law says:

      Would he be a BF in denouncing all established government as inherently evil, as I perceive your position to be, or would he want the government established at the time to remain as he described in his speech?

      Or have I perceived your position incorrectly?

      • Black Flag says:

        Ah, comes with the definition of government.

        Jefferson held the same illusion and dream as USWep – government=guardian of rights.

        He was also under no illusion that no such thing had ever existed before.

        After he failed to prevent the distortions introduced into the Constitution, he knew that it would not exist.

      • Black Flag says:

        Some thoughts by Jefferson:

        The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

        No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.(BF: Note, this is in direct alignment of my discourse here regarding “LAW” and “Law”…_)

        I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.

        I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

        In matters of style, swim with the current;
        In matters of principle, stand like a rock.

        The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.(BF: This is expressly pointed at GA Rowe, who believe majority creates morals)

        Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.

        The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others.

        Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual (BF: This quote spectacular states the truth about Law and the truth about freedom – and one of the most articulated statements about freedom I know of – to know Black Flag is to fully understand this statement)

      • Black Flag says:

        To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

        The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

        Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.

        And finally, Jefferson exposes a timeless truth – the enemies of the People…

        The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.

        ……

        Unfortunately , Jefferson could not realize the futility in trying to control government by a set of rules that required the government to enforce upon itself.

        • OMG…this is the first thing that I have agreed with BF on…I must be losing it. (Loading gun, walking to back forty, putting it to my head..BANG! 🙂

          BF posted :The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.

          ……

          Unfortunately , Jefferson could not realize the futility in trying to control government by a set of rules that required the government to enforce upon itself.

          • Don’t do it D13, my wife may need to be saved from being raped and murdered and you are the only one I know who will step in!!!!!

  16. Black Flag says:

    Meet the man who has exposed the great climate change con trick

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/3755623/meet-the-man-who-has-exposed-the-great-climate-change-con-trick.thtml

    [His] landmark book Heaven And Earth, which is going to change forever the way we think about climate change.

    ‘The hypothesis that human activity can create global warming is extraordinary because it is contrary to validated knowledge from solar physics, astronomy, history, archaeology and geology,’ says Plimer, and while his thesis is not new, you’re unlikely to have heard it expressed with quite such vigour, certitude or wide-ranging scientific authority. Where fellow sceptics like Bjorn Lomborg or Lord Lawson of Blaby are prepared cautiously to endorse the International Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) more modest predictions, Plimer will cede no ground whatsoever.

    Anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory, he argues, is the biggest, most dangerous and ruinously expensive con trick in history.

    • Murphy's Law says:

      Absolutely! It is a con, smoke and mirrors aimed squarely at our wallets…..and what they figure to be our collective stupidity and gullibility. Too bad it’s working with so many.

      • The problem, IMO, is that people align with the political pundits, and will not make an informed opinion themselves. I personally agree with you, but there is a measure of power that is part of the equation as well.

    • Oh good heavens!

      Again I find myself in complete agreement with BF!

      What is this world coming to? 🙂 😉 🙂

  17. Oh, come on now, I thought this was the Alaska channel here.

  18. Black Flag says:

    900+ posts was taking too long to load.

    Time to move the continuing conversation ‘up’ to the next blog.

    • BF, I am getting out during the Month of August . . .

      Not to Alaska like USW did, but to somewhere else other than my computer den (it used to be just my den until the wife moved some of her crafting stuff in here from her overflowing crafts and sewing room – flowers and all!) . . . oh these retirement years! ;-0

    • I was just kidding Bf, didn’t mean anything by it. Yea, my computer was taking forever to post anything. .

  19. USW,

    Welcome back, thanks to the misses for keeping you in line. Found something the vet’s here might find of interest.

    The ACLU is currently in the process of trying to have this WWI Veteran Memorial torn down and removed from the Mojave Desert in California.

    http://thebobofiles.com/?p=1489

    • I have that video posted on my website, have had it there for over a week now.

      It was originally sent to me by another veteran via e-mail.

      My wife continues to ask me just how is it that the ACLU gets away with all this BS! She also asks how is it that just one person who just might be offended by something always gets the ruling in their favor and when hundreds of thousands of people protest like on the tax day tea party and all of our calls and letters against cap & trade just get ignored?

      There are a lot of things in this world that I too just do not understand, and these are just a very few of them . . . 😦

  20. Interesting reading at a liberal site.

    Judge Sonia Sotomayor Denied My Appeal and I Spent 16 Years in Prison For a Crime I Didn’t Commit

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/141197/judge_sonia_sotomayor_denied_my_appeal_and_i_spent_16_years_in_prison_for_a_crime_i_didn%27t_commit/

    • Hi LOI

      I just watched that video, and I was literally shaking my head in disgust because of one, one person who Might drive by and just happen to see that. We’ve been through Mojave several times, and I can honestly say, I don’t recall ever seeing it, not unless I just didn’t notice. My oldest son was stationed at Ft. Irwin about 3 or 4 years ago when the 11th Calvary went to Iraq. He was with 221st calv out of Carson City, and his unit trained people to go to Iraq. Anyway, I think that the ACLU is the most outrageous group of people to ever take on this case. what the, sorry here, Hell is wrong with people to want to remove this memorial? It makes so damn angry when just one or two people have to complain about something, and then want it removed, then in comes the ACLU. I think they ought to be removed if you ask me. My husband is a vet, as well as my youngest son, ( Marine vet ), and I find this to be a slap in the face, not just to vets, but to their families as well. Just because this idiot might make a trip from Oregon and go through Mojave, he might see the memorial. I’d tell him GO ANOTHER WAY. When will this insanity stop, I’m sick of it. BTW, I signed the petition.

      Judy

      • Judy & G.A.

        It should be unbelievable, but we have become used to this type of behavior, and being told its for the best. Bulldookey!! This is
        a war being waged against our culture and our values. And yes, the ACLU should be disbanded. Lets build them a cozy little camp that uses fuel oil heaters only in ANWAR and lock them up there for 20 years or so.

    • Black Flag says:

      Remember, the government can never be wrong.

      Do not go quietly if you are not guilty.

      If you are guilty, don’t go quietly either!

      (Just my opinion)

  21. Black Flag says:

    v. Holland (From previous blog)

    With force, I’m not arguing that government doesn’t use force, obviously with any king of power however obtained you must have some type of power to enforce it. What I’m questioning is the use of words like coercive force or violence, they carry a connotation of bad or even evil

    The challenge in much of this dialogue here on the blog is the use of words.

    Many have a belief of what “government” means – but as we’ve seen struggle in great difficulty articulating it…

    Same with “anarchy” – most have a belief – but their definition that they hold actually has nothing to do with what it actually is (ie: the lack of a arbitrary ruler — “no right to rule”)

    And no different with violence – I agree we are conditioned to see violence at ‘bad’ – and for most of the time, it is.

    However, we need to use the words that precisely describe what we mean – if we try to ‘dumb down’ our articulation, we will be seen as perverse to those with intellect, and at the same time, those who care nothing about what we say – the ones we are trying to include in this conversation – aren’t interested anyway.

    • BF, I, like USW was out in the country the last week, on vacation with family and doing my midsummer deer scouting for the upcoming hunting season (saw some nice healthy deer, buck and doe). I was however able to keep up with the posts for the most part, but I must admit that what you posted today is something that I have come to agree with you on. I’m not sure if government can be made better, through the use of solid philosophy, or by other means, but I sure agree that they are simply evil. I do look forward to getting back to the philosophy subject, if for no reason other than to learn.

      I don’t have an ideal form of government wondering around in my head, but very damn little is at least a start. You asked many times about a “definition” of government. I don’t have one, but I can use two words to describe it “needs removed”!

      Thanks for all the input!

      Have a great day!

      G!

    • JayDickB says:

      BF – I was just able to get back here. I see why you said yesterday my definition/argument was circular, so allow me to clarify. My definition of government spoke of furthering the common good as defined by the society. I went on to claim that a government meeting that definition could do bad things. The key is that the society’s definition of common good could actually be bad, according to my standards. What a society might see as good, e.g., executing left-handed blond people, I would see as bad.

      Probably my choice of the words “common good” was not the best. Perhaps “common interest” or “common objectives” would be more accurate.

      • Any time you use the word “common” you are giving some the power to contol others. To take their liberty for their own convenience or in your words “interest”.

        It is perfectly OK if you want that definition, but just recognize that it is a TYPE of govt and not a generic description.

        Also recognize that it is what you are living in. You just need to get more people in your tribe so you can tell the other tribe how to live.

        Is that what you want?

        • JayDickB says:

          I’m not sure about that. The government we have not does meet my definition but is it necessary for a good definition of government to exclude any government we wouldn’t want? I thought a definition of government would be very broad, all-inclusive. Under that broad definition, there could be many types, some good, some bad.

          BF’s definition, although accurate as far as it goes, does not seem to me to be complete.

          • JayDickB says:

            Remove the “not” in the second line.

          • Black Flag says:

            No, as I said in defining water.

            The adjective cannot change the definition.

            “Bad” water and “Good” water have the same definition of “water”.

  22. D13: I promised a response to your comments of yesterday so here we go.

    “It is that I put more belief in our government, than you do and that is also ok.” I am curious if you were to choose again, between “belief” or “faith” or “trust” which of the words you would use in this sentence.

    I have belief as well. I believe it has and will continue to destroy freedom and liberty. I have complete faith that nothing will change this unless the American people wake up and realize what the nature of govt. is, and then hit the restart button.

    “I do not agree with everything our government does and I will do whatever I can, short of the factors previously mentioned, to change it. I believe in the vote, so far, and do not find it futile…..” It is in fact futile to vote NOW if your goal is freedom and liberty. When you have no one to vote for then it is futile to vote for the other tribe and hope they will do what your tribe wants. It absolutely amazes me how many people I know who say they have “never” agreed with what our govt. does yet they continue to support our govt. And as I have said before, I am one of the fools so I have and will continue to vote based on the situation at hand. When a candidate comes along that stands for my principles he gets my vote. When I have no choice but the lesser of two evils I will choose the lesser (i.e., Gore vs. Bush). Although I do sometimes wonder if letting the worst have a chance would awaken the people quicker.

    However, I do believe it is the power of the vote that will eventually cause the needed change, but not right now. Only when those who are voting have awakened to the reality of what we have and what is REALLY needed to protect our freedoms.

    ”You are quite correct that I would not have done that and I have NEVER claimed to blindly follow my government. We have moral codes as officers and combatants and are allowed to act on those morals and codes if the orders are clearly illegal and there are defined circumstances.” But what if the orders are LEGAL, as in there is a law that allows it?

    “while they may not be the politically correct thing to do, they were, IN MY OPINION, not illegal wars.” I do not disagree nor have I ever. All wars sanctioned by our legislative branch either through declaration or their silence, are legal wars. That is the key point. We are constantly fighting immoral wars that our Govt. has decided are legal. And let me be clear as to what I mean by immoral. It is immoral to send, by the power of govt., another human to die on behalf of people on the other side of the planet who don’t give a pinch about me, the person sent to die, or the concepts that created the USA. It is immoral to initiate violence on other countries and their citizens when those countris and people have not attacked us.

    And I completely share your view about the role of the UN., world court, etc in dictating to us. Unless of course we signed some stupid treaty allowing them a say in our affairs. Then we must adhere to the terms we signed onto.

    “Please do not compare civilian casualties in a war to POW’s. War is terrible and there are casualties. The killing of innocent civilians just happens and that is a tragedy. But NEVER have I been ordered to murder innocent civilians.” Don’t know why you mentioned this as I did not suggest it nor is it relavent to my point.

    “I took an oath as a United States Army Officer….no less important than the oath or promise you took with your wife….to obey and follow the LAWFUL orders of the officers appointed over me.” And this is my point. If govt. establishes a LAW banning left handed people, you said you would follow the LAW. You have the ability to disobey orders that conflict with established codes of conduct but can you disobey an order not so covered that is based on an immoral law?

    “I did not agree with going into Bosnia to stop genocide but it was not illegal to do so. I did not agree with Kuwait, but it was also not illegal.” But should such wars continue to be deemed legal?
    “The Unites States is not Germany and will never order the same things that Nazi Germany did.” I know you believe this and I certainly do hope so, but I am not as sure. “Never” is a very long time. I did not draw parallels to the details, only that if our military follows all orders deemed to be Lawful, it is possible the eventual outcome will be similar to Germany. It may not involve wholesale slaughter but it certainly could result in the subjugation of part of our society.

    Look around at what has been going on these past 20 years and tell me there are not serious parallels to both Germany and Soviet Russia. Balkanization of our population, establishment of classes for political purposes and the unending propaganda. And most disturbing, the demonization of one group who speaks against the one in power.

    “I understand the role of our forefathers and I understand the liberties and freedom. But they also died for country and died to form a government based on freedoms and liberties.” I am sorry but you are wrong. There was no “Country” until after the war. The entire concept of God and Country was a European construct which followed for God and King. Our founders, the philosophical leaders, were not fighting to create a country, they were fighting for Liberty. They then struggled with how to form a govt and country that would protect the Liberty that was won at such a cost. In fact they fought on behalf of thirteen soveriegn nation states who joined a confederation of mutual benefit and defense.

    I don’t remember the phrases “Give me a Country or give me death” or “Give me Government or give me death”! Where were those? OK, that was sarcastic but you have to admit it that it makes the point.

    “Country, to me, is not only geographical, but also a people, a way of life, and a government that defends those very things.” So what do you call it when the Govt., which is the Country, is attacking those very things? And what things, do you refer of here?

    “I am not as cynical as you and others that our government is inherently evil.” To me a cynic is someone who is always whining about what govt is up to but has no real clue. Cynicism is a form of lazy thinking in modern terms. Obviously there is a great body of philosophy termed “cynacism” but that is not how the common man uses the term. Therefore, I am not cynical, as I am certain as to what government is in general, what ours has become and why it is antithetical to the very values this Republic was founded on. Those values are freedom and liberty and I still support them.

    I happen to differ with BF on the point that govt. is inherently evil. I think it does not have to become evil. But to know whether it is or is not requires a clear understanding of its nature and thus how to keep it from becoming evil. If it can not be contained, thus prevented from becoming evil, then we must conclude it is evil. And of course we would not want to support something that is evil would we?

    “I do think that the elected officials have a power hunger and they have to be checked and we, as a people, can do this. But it can be done without treason, without sedition, without anarchy.” I am not an anarchist but I must point out it is not the same as sedition or treason. It is a form of govt (sorry Kent and BF but can’t think of another word) that does not delegate individual rights to another, it is not the chaos and violence in the streets that so many wish to ascribe to it.

    “I do not subscribe to the theory that there is a big conspiracy among all governments to take over the world as a collective to enslave us or anybody.” I agree. There is however a massive philosophical movement in the world that is constantly working to unify all major governments along the lines of the progressive doctrine. This movement is well organized and is funded and supported by some very wealthy and powerful people (Soros is just one). Ignore this at the cost of your freedom and liberty.

    Hope all is well today.
    JAC

  23. Black Flag says:

    More Jefferson on Government –

    Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?

    A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.

    The right of self-government does not comprehend the government of others.

    History, in general, only informs us what bad government is.

    If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest.

    It is better to tolerate that rare instance of a parent’s refusing to let his child be educated, than to shock the common feelings by a forcible transportation and education of the infant against the will of his father.

    The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

    I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.

    The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.

  24. JayDickB says:

    I don’t like government very much, but there are a few things government provides that I’m not sure I could do without or get otherwise. Police come to mind. Maybe fire and EMS services, although these two probably could be contracted for.

    Then there’s national defense, even if it does go awry sometimes. Criminal justice, courts to settle disputes, probably.

    I also find myself voting for the lesser of two evils, although that is getting harder to do.

    • Black Flag says:

      But your assumption is that those things are not possible without government.

      YET each and every one of those things was provided for before government seized them, including police, “national” defense and justice.

      • v. Holland says:

        I cannot think of any country that doesn’t have some form of government. Why do you think that is? It seems to imply that people found it necessary to have a government.

        • Black Flag says:

          Excellent observation, V. Holland.

          I’d point you to a number of essays which offer theories – Hans Hoppe being one of the premiere sources.

          But to summarize;

          Economics is the mother of politics.

          She begot two children, both of which are a solution to humanity in its perpetual need of resources of survival.

          1) Earn – by the voluntary effort and trade between men.

          2) Steal – by the violent taking from other men.

          Before the agricultural revolution, man’s needs were satisfied by what he found or hunted that day. There was no concept of ‘ownership’.

          The agricultural revolution created the conditions for the explosion of mankind. It also created the necessity to work.

          One needed to clear the land, cultivate the land, sow the land, tend the land, harvest the land, store the seed, save through the winter, and repeat. If, by merely stealing the produce, one man could avoid a lot of effort. The other man had a lot to lose.

          The profit of violence is very, very good.

          Thus, centralizing that violence (dukedoms, to kingdoms, to city states, to nation states, to global government) to be more efficient, and most importantly, create necessary illusions to make such theft legitimate decreased the risk and improved the returns. Each step of the evolution has seized an ever increasing amount of the goods of the people. The Americans went to war with the Crown over a 1% tax. Imagine! Now, over 80% of your earnings goes to feed the beasts!

          It takes no real genius to figure this out over 10,000 years.

          Humans, by nature, are herd animals. There are exceptions (such as myself), but the dominate nature is to run behind someone who promises protection, easy living, comfort….

          The combination creates ‘government’ in all its forms.

          As Jefferson said so eloquently,

          Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.

          Freedom is very hard work….

          …but so is slavery.

          • v. Holland says:

            Seems possible that they just recognized a need for protection and a desire to grow and prosper.

            • Black Flag says:

              Ah, but that betrays a definition of government = “protector”.

              Yet, protection from evil can exist without having an entity steal from its citizens!

              Yet, the stealing is the dominate force of all government! In fact, many alternative definitions – including that of the UN (to recognize new nations) includes in its definition “the power to tax”…!!!

              Think about that for a moment….

  25. Black Flag says:

    Jon-Paul

    Pursuant to your second statement vis-a-vie BF; one, I don’t know him well enough to know when he’s joking or being serious; therefore, to mention anything would be rude and condescending to him and quite openly, I respect him far too much to do any such thing. However, nothing ever got fixed by ignoring it, right?

    Actually, a lot has been fixed by ignoring it – most problems aren’t really problems until we put energy into them.

    What is a truth – futile action is worse than no action.

  26. Garth D:

    I moved this up for speed.

    GarthD said
    July 12, 2009 at 11:35 pm
    JAC,

    Article 1, Section. 2. The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States…

    Amendment XVIII to Section 3 of Article 1: The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof…

    What am I missing?

    The two articles you describe, the second actually amends part of the first, do not convey rights. They are standard “establishment and formation” statements that explain what each branch is and how each house of the legislature is to be established. The key here is that the legal concept behind the Constitution was that it was a document whose purpose was to establish a govt. and then spefify the limitation on powers that it could exercise. The rights lie with the people but in order to form a more perfect union the people give to the government certain powers as explained herein (paraphrased of course).

    Remember the Bill of Rights was added as a compromise. Why? Because the opponents thought the Constitution did not go far enough in constraining the govt. They feared the general wording could be construed to impede on their rights. That and prior tradition from England led them to believe that by listing certain rights they would be safe. They were Fools. The listing of rights did not eliminate the holes created by the general terms. They only limited their effect on those rights listed. And I mean limited, as they did not prevent. Take guns for example. The right has been restricted but not eliminated. The restrictions are enforced throught the general wording of the “commerce clause”.

    It is a common misunderstanding by a mis-educated American public that has led to a belief that this document gives us rights of anykind. That is one of the cracks created by corrupt politicians and Supreme justices who go along with the concept. The Constitution is a document of constraints on government not liberties.

    And I might add, that as such it has failed miserably.

    Do you see the distinction now?
    JAC

    • Garth D:

      This added thought. In fact the Constitution took the “right to vote” away from the people (democracy) and replaced it with a “representative form of govt” (republic) where in “some” people get to vote for certain representatives and certain chosen state officials get to choose the other representatives (per the original).

      By agreeing to the Constitution the States, acting on behalf of the people, gave up the peoples absolute “right to vote”, in a true sense. Subsequent “voting rights” amendments all deal with the limit govt has on restricting the right to vote. The govt may not discriminate or limit voting based on…….

      JAC

  27. USW:

    Welcome back. I see you have now stood on the same ground and in the same place as I. Totem park and the shops of Ketchican. By the way when you got off the ship in Ketchican, if you turned around and faced the direction of the ship and then looked past it you would have seen the channel you cruised in on. Across the channel is the island where the infamous “bridge to nowhere” was supposed to go to. The folks there abouts didn’t think much of their community being referred to as “nowhere”.

    And how did you get a picture of my summer house? I worked hard getting all that moss to grow on the roof. Helps keep the rain out when it swells. Kind of like a “sustainable sod roof”. OK, just kidding.
    Glad you had fun.

    JAC

  28. Black Flag says:

    So, while many are contemplating the issues of definitions of government, here is another stir of your ‘thinking pot’.

    What do you believe (in exactly one sentence) should be the Core, Immutable, Moral Premise of the organizing entity of society?

  29. v. Holland says:

    This is my definition of Government in general-Government is an entity in a specific geographic area with a monopoly on the cost of our freedoms with the power to compel an action:
    said action can cause the loss of individual rights and our collective freedoms.

    (“a cost is an alternative that is given up as a result of a decision.”)

    • But using your definition of “cost” then the choice of freedom would create a “cost” as is would cause one to give up an alternative of “not freedom”.

      I have real heart burn with the idea that freedom carries a cost of not freedom.

      You are suggesting that govt has a monopoly, thus total control, on the alternatives given up as a result of a decision. Logically I would say No. It may control the choice but it can not control the cost of that choice, or the alternatives that were sacrificed.

      If you dump the cost of freedom and leave the “power to compel action” what do you have?

      • v. Holland says:

        Okay, my point is that government can pass laws that we do not have to follow-so we still have the individual right to do whatever it is, drink alcohol, own a gun whatever, until or unless we get caught we haven’t actually lost our individual rights because we can still choose to do whatever it is-once we are caught and the government compels an action -at that point we will lose our rights. So yes IMO we can choose freedom and the cost of that choice is the loss of freedom and the government decides what freedoms you lose. I admit that this definition is complicated and I am actually just as happy with Government is an entity in a specific geographical area with a monopoly on freedom with the power to compel an action. I agree that government can’t own freedom but it can control freedoms and I’m not convinced that it is necessary to own something to qualify as a monopoly. I changed to the other definition to be a little clearer on when our individual rights were actually lost. Boy, that was a mouthful, and I suspect you are adding the words, of crap to the end of that statement.

        • I see symptoms of fatigue. More than willing to restart tomorrow. But first re-read my last comment to you. I think you missed my points on the logic issue.

          Ignor my comment about heart burn, its not relevant anyway.

          Note I said monopoly on the cost, (aka alternatives) of the choice. I do not see how govt can have a monopoly on all the choices that are forgone. It can make a choice thus creating costs. But that is not the same as controling all choices and thus alternatives.

          If you were to say “monopoly on determining the extent of our freedoms” I would concur. But then I would ask you to reduce it one more level to reflect how it can determine the extent of freedom.

          Anyway, I suggest you sleep on it, unless your a night owl like USW.
          JAC

          • Sorry V.H.

            “If you were to say “monopoly on determining the extent of our freedoms” I would concur. But then I would ask you to reduce it one more level to reflect how it can determine the extent of freedom.”

            I got sloppy there. I too am getting tired. I would reduce it not to reflect how it “determines” but how it “creates” or “maintains” or “enforces”.

            Best Wishes
            JAC

            • And for reasons I have previously stated and due to my own argument below I now no longer concur with changing your statement to a monopoly on the “extent of our freedom”.

              I caught myself before the Black shark could strike.

              Man that was close.

        • Oh by the way, if govt has the monopoly on freedom then that means none of us can have freedom.

          Unless of course we get rid of govt.

          Perhaps that is why B.F. seemed so interested in your definition the other day. He didn’t immediately recognize (although I doubt my own statement here) the power of your argument in his favor.

          Are you now a Black Flag also?
          Gotch ya smilin didn’t I.
          JAC

  30. Judy S. says:

    Hey BF, I got a question for you from my husband, something his brother read in the paper today, and I was wondering if you heard it. He said he read that they are thinking of doing away with term limits for the presidency, and that it was the Democrats who came up with this idea. Your response would be appreciated.

    Thank You

    Judy

    • Black Flag says:

      I’ll research the MSM about it, however

      …any alteration of the ‘current’ establishment will always be toward a more strict, oppressive, overt, violent, exertion of violent power.

      It MUST be resisted with all the moral power we have left.

      • Black Flag says:

        http://lornakismet.wordpress.com/2009/06/06/urgent-king-obama-trying-to-end-term-limits-for-president-wake-up-america/

        So, the odds this bill will pass is low.

        But, it is a ‘trial balloon’ – gauge the public’s response – it probably will be raised again in the future.

      • Judy S. says:

        Didn’t they do away with that when FDR won 3 times in a row, and that’s why they put a limit to 2 terms?

        • Black Flag says:

          Yes.

          (Actually 4 times, and he died in his 4th)

          • Judy S. says:

            Thank you for the link. Looks like they did that even before he was elected. I didn’t know FDR was elected 4 times, I thought it was only the 3. There, see, something i never knew, I learned from you BF. Thanks.

        • Another

          D-I-V-E-R-S-I-O-N

          The Progressives were all afraid Bush would do this and he didn’t. I can’t imagine that even they would be considering this, seriously.

          Thus my conclusion.

          • Actually, if I employ my Art of War thinking cap here, this is probably an attack by Mr. O’s opposition.

            Get the public freaking out as popularity and questions about policy start to build. Then leak out again later when elections come near.

            This is fun, conspiracy, strategy, double meanings, and clandestine operations. I smell POLITICS American Style.

            • Judy S. says:

              How do you know JAC? How do you know he doesn’t want to do something like that, and try and be president for as long as he can? Question. Did you vote for him? You don’t know what goes on in his or the congress for that matter, none of us do, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least. Look at what he’s doing to this country with all these bills he wants to hurry and pass. On top of that, nobody stopping to read these things before they sign and pass them.

              You want to give him the benefit of the doubt, or as some say, ” He’s only been president for 7 months, give the guy a chance”. You know as well as I do, that the media helped him get elected, and everybody was just falling all over him with all those promises and sweet talk he did. I don’t trust him as far as I can throw him.

              I don’t know how or what kind of state this country will be in when his term is up, and I’m afraid it won’t be for the best either. That’s only my opinion though.

              Judy

              • Judy S. says:

                I meant to say, You don’t know what goes on in his and Congresses minds. Sorry for the word leave out.

              • Judy, take a chill pill and focus on real issues.

                But to show you I mean it, I will answer your questions.

                1.”How do you know JAC?”: 30 years of experience working in, on behalf of, and against the exectutive and legislative branches of our federal govt.

                2.”How do you know he doesn’t want to do something like that, and try and be president for as long as he can?” If he could he would as would every other President in my lifetime. Although I am not as sure about Reagan, or even maybe Carter.

                3.”Did you vote for him?” I would normally say none of your business but since you are dying there I will tell you no. I wrote in the name of Mitt Romney.

                4.”You don’t know what goes on in his or the congress for that matter, none of us do, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least.” I do not know exactly but I don’t need to because I have a solid understanding of who they are, what they want, and how they will play the game to get it. And they can destroy you if they wish.

                5.”Look at what he’s doing to this country with all these bills he wants to hurry and pass. On top of that, nobody stopping to read these things before they sign and pass them.” As I have said before, the Progressive movement has been frustrated since McGovern got his arss kicked. All you had to do was listen to the lefty version of talk radio for the two years leading up to the election to know exactly what was going to happen. And besides, its not relavent to the real problem or the required solutions. It only provides more evidence in my favor, or B.F.’s depending on how far we are willing to go.

                6.”You want to give him the benefit of the doubt” I give him the benefit of nothing. He is behaving just as I expected. He is accelerating the fasciolism conversion started by the Republicans in the late 1800’s. Kind of like a tag team. The question is whether the Dems get to finish the contest or if the R’s will have to get back in the ring to make the crowd think there is really a contest going on.

                And by the by, whether I want to give him a chance or you do is irrelevant. He and the far left were elected and they have power. We have no real say in the matter, except where they need a coalition with the blue dogs to get something done.

                But then that is where public panic over global warming comes in. If the Senate were to ratify a Treaty with all kinds of B.S. in it to prevent the “destruction of humanity as we know it” you can kiss our constitution and our liberty good by. You see, federal treaties are the law of the land, and in this case, water and air.

                Did you know that the proposed re-authorization of the Clean Water Act effectively kills all State jurisdiction over water rights?

                And you honestly thought I don’t understand?

          • Also, unless I forgot my number scheme:

            “Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y. Introduced H. J. Res. 5” The “Res” stands for Resolution. Which means a non-binding bill.

            But will check more.

            • I WAS WRONG.

              This type of Resolution is the real deal not the nonbinding fuzzy kind.

              Now, this particular amendment has apparently been proposed during each of the last six Congress’ and has never escaped committee.

              It must be some kind of virus they don’t have a cure for back there.

              • Judy S. says:

                Maybe, But dollars to donuts, him and congress mind try a lot harder this time, ya never know JAC.

              • Judy S. says:

                Sorry again, I meant might. This darn computer is having spelling problems, I swear it’s not me. LOL

              • Judy:

                The States would have to ratify it first and they would have to do it within 7 years.

                Do you really think that many states would go for this?

        • Oh and look what else I found while chasing this little diversion around.

          “….as of 2008 Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming have called for a Constitutional Convention. [Answer submitted on Jul 1, 2009 12:06 PM]”

          This was an answer posted to questions regarding H.J. Res. 5

          • Judy S. says:

            But, don’t they have to let the people vote on it, and see how they feel about it, or is just through a committee? I ask, because I really don’t know JAC. Please forgive me for being on the ignorant side about this. You and Bf, and others know so much more about all this than I do, and that’s why all the questions here. You guys are giving me a real history lesson. Yes, I know I learned this in school, but do you know how many years ago that was? Try 40, okay. I forget things after that many years.

            • Congress must call a Convention upon Application by 2/3 of the State Legislatures. Congress can not stop it however, it has never been determined what if any controls Congress may have on how it is run. I bet they would try, don’t you?

              Most scholors are freaked by the idea because once called, there is nothing to stop the Convention from dumping the Constitution and starting over. That’s what basically happened in 1787. However, Aricle V states that “shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments” and “shall be valid to all Intents and PUrposes, as Part of this Constitution”. Thus the stage would be set for a Supreme Court test of anything that looked like a “revision” and not an “amendment”. Remember, this was the actual legal issue in California regarding the Gay Marriage Initiative.

              Now, once the Convention proposes the amendment(s) it takes 3/4 of the State Legislatures to ratify it or Conventions in 3/4 of the States. As I read it, Congress can decide which of these methods shall be used to Ratify the amendment(s). This rule applies to amendments proposed by Congress as well, by the way.

              So there is the brief lesson on the amendment process. I hope you can now see why I deem this as just more diversion by Talking Heads and Pundits. I thought Obama but I think it is the anti-Obama crowd thats screaming wolf here. This resolution has been around since January. Only now are we hearing about it.

              Sleep well Judy.
              Tomorrow we have much bigger fish to catch.
              JAC

  31. v. Holland says:

    I realize this isn’t here but I think this is where we are headed.

    Schoolchildren Told ‘An Orgasm a Day Keeps the Doctor Away’

    Monday, July 13, 2009

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    A leaflet issued by Britain’s National Health Service is advising school pupils that they have a “right” to an enjoyable sex life and that regular intercourse can be good for their cardiovascular health.

    The advice appears in guidance circulated to parents, teachers and youth workers, and is intended to update sex education by telling pupils about the benefits of sexual pleasure.

    For too long, say its authors, experts have concentrated on the need for “safe sex” and loving relationships while ignoring the main reason that many people have sex — for enjoyment.

    The document, called “Pleasure,” has been drawn up by NHS Sheffield, although it is also being circulated outside the northern English city.

    Alongside the slogan “an orgasm a day keeps the doctor away,” it says: “Health promotion experts advocate five portions of fruit and veg a day and 30 minutes’ physical activity three times a week. What about sex or masturbation twice a week?”

    Steve Slack, director of the Center for HIV and Sexual Health at NHS Sheffield, who is one of the authors, argues that, far from promoting teenage sex, it could encourage young people to delay losing their virginity until they are sure they will enjoy the experience.

  32. USW

    And the young humorist – Steven Crowder – also went to Canada !! (serious)

    The Truth about Canada” video http://tinyurl.com/lhv354 This one’s BIG! #TCOT #HealthCare

  33. dreweth says:

    Welcome back, good sir.

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