Not the Country I Grew Up In….

changing americaI was again going through the news tonight, reading different stuff from all kinds of stuff, mostly further researching for the upcoming series on health care. I ran across this video of Chris Matthews on MSNBC. It seems that his segment focused on the idea that the people who are against the health care reform offered by Obama are doing so because they are racists. You all know how much I hate that term being thrown around these days. He was interviewing a woman from the Atlanta Journal Constitution (a true biased rag of a paper). And she made a comment that just completely threw me for a loop. First because her conclusion is so faulty and unsubstantiated, and second because I think that the left may possibly be completely misunderstanding the position of the average American today.

Chris MatthewsLet me address the claim of racism first because it isn’t the real purpose of this article, but I think, given yesterday’s topic and discussion, I should comment on it. Matthews, who I personally put at the same level of journalism as Alan Colmes, Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter, was discussing the different movements that have moved against President Obama in one form or another. I was surprised to hear him come right out and insinuate that the reason for this is Racism. No other reason given. The “birther” movement is doing so because they are racists. How ridiculous a claim is that to make? VERY ridiculous in my opinion. The “birthers” feel the way they do because they don’t like his policies and because, in their opinion, he is not a citizen and therefore is not eligible to be President. As I have said, I disagree and believe he is a citizen from what I have read, but to claim that the entire movement is based on nothing but racial hatred… that is low class and yet another example of the MSM attempting to attack the character of those on the right rather than attacking their position.

He also stated that the health care reform protesters we are seeing are doing so because of race as well. He brought in Cynthia Tucker from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. She started out by saying there is “no way to prove what is in people’s hearts and minds.”

But the real dumbass statement made by Miss Tucker, the true show of her ability to see racism in every statement or action a white person makes came when she stated that “When I hear these tea party protesters say ‘This is America. This is no longer the country that I grew up in. This country is changing.’ Well that suggests to me that race is part of this. Can I prove it? Absolutely not. Do I believe it? Absolutely.” Isn’t that a convenient little way to disparage and, therefore, marginalize the people opposed to health care. Just come out on MSNBC and say they are doing it because they are racists. Matthews then asked if all these people could be strapped down and given “truth serum”, how many are opposed because they are racists. She then stated, “I’m just guessing. This is just off the cuff. I think 45%-65% of the people who appear at these groups are people who will never be comfortable with the idea of a black President.”

Cynthia TuckerWHAT? Let me tell you something. Racism is not dead in this country. It just isn’t. Despite the fact that there is a black man in the white house, racism still exists. I personally believe that it is less pervasive than the far reaches of each party. I say 10-15% of the people on each side of the aisle are far right or far left loons. I would say about the same percentage of Americans are still ANTI-BLACK racists (I believe a higher percentage of blacks in America are anti-white racists than vice versa). I will end the racist debate there. Cynthia Tucker will see race in every obstacle for the rest of her life. Her claim was baseless, racist itself, and the fact that Matthews and MSNBC aired it as a legitimate claim further shows what a freak show that network has become.

What I want to address is the statement she made about people stating that this is no longer the country that they grew up in. She was wrong to think this is a racist statement. Because I feel this way all the time. Almost every person that I talk to feels that way. And most, whether from the left or the right, agree that this country is not the same country that we grew up in and they agree that the change has not been for the better.

Sure we have improved some things. Racism and equal rights have come a long way, thankfully. People live longer and better today than in the past, despite the bleeding hearts that claim otherwise. For example a good number of those who the left claim have no health care, do in fact have plasma TV’s, XBox gaming systems, and drive a better car than many Americans. But I digress.

I have talked about the change in America before. And it disgusts me. As a country, we have lost every bit of personal responsibility, personal pride, and self sufficiency that were the standards that made the country great in the first place. I have written about this extensively in the past. In an article from February, I discussed the first three steps we needed to take in order to get our country back from the a-holes in Washington DC. I stated:

Step 3 is that we have to become self sufficient and personally responsible. that doesn’t mean we have to live off the land and be able to live as hermits for 20 years. It means that we take control of our finances so that we aren’t in a position where the government can pass legislation to bail us out (because let’s face it, they passed the personal-responsibilitystimulus” bill under the guise of bailing out US citizens).

Becoming self sufficient isn’t easy, but it isn’t that hard either. Ask Kent, he has worked very hard to get there. We don’t need the federal government to do 95% of the things they are doing. But we give up our power and let them do those things because we can’t be bothered to make it happen on our own. It isn’t that we can’t, it is that we won’t. That has to change. No more welfare, no more government “gimme” programs. We can do most of this stuff on our own. And when we realize that, the government is not nearly as powerful any more. They have worked hard to make us dependent on them. We will have to work just as hard to turn that around.

This article was in addition to others that I had written previously. A personal favorite was the article that I wrote on personal responsibility. It was a bit narrowly focused, as it really only addressed fiscal personal responsibility, but I have to say that my take on the stimulus bill in this article was quite humorous! You can go read the entire article HERE . In the mean time, one of the important points I made in the article was this:

And this points right back to the number one problem in America (hint: this is the turn I warned you about). No personal accountability. We live in a land of credit and living above our means. And we think that it is OK to not live up to the financial obligations we have. That it is morally just to tell those that loaned us money that we don’t have to pay them back.

We have lost control of ourselves financially. We spend more than we can afford to pay back. We buy things we don’t need. We take big risks with our money, like figuring out that if we cut this bill we can afford to add that one, instead of operating with a personal financial safety net.

Chickens Hard WorkAmerica is changing. This is NOT the America that I grew up in. I grew up in an America that still had a majority of people who took pride in their work. They did a good job because it never occurred to them that anything less was acceptable. You felt good about yourself because you earned everything you had through hard work. Now, these younger folks think they are doing us a favor by working for us. They consistently look for ways to NOT work hard. If you try to hold them accountable for doing their job, you can bet their first call will be to the HR department to lodge a complaint against you. They think a raise in their pay is a right they are entitled to for simply showing up to work on a regular basis for 6 months. They have no loyalty, no pride in their work, and have never even contemplated the concept of an actual “work ethic”.

People lived more within their means. They did not expect that government’s job was to rescue them when they couldn’t pay their bills. That just wasn’t the mentality. Yes we had a small number of people who felt that way, but they were a vast minority. And they were shunned, and looked down upon, and rightfully so. They were not contributors to society. They were the drains on society. And they were viewed as such. Now there are vast amounts of people who believe that it is up to society to provide for them. They are full of excuses as to why life wasn’t fair to them and they should, therefore, be provided for by those folks who have done well.

Businesses were a part of the community. And community was a part of our lives. You knew who your neighbors were and you could depend on them to watch your house, help you with a project, and to attend the BBQ you had on Sunday afternoon. Your kids could play in the neighborhood because you knew that the eyes of every parent in the neighborhood were as diligent as your own in looking out for danger. If your car broke down, people stopped to help. If you found yourself down on your luck, the community took care of you. Break your leg, neighbors brought food. Tree falls on your house, the neighborhood all shows up with chain saws and wheelbarrows. Now you can get hit by a car or stabbed on the sidewalk and people will just keep walking by and watch you die.

respect-road-signKids respected their parents and they showed respect to adults or people they came into contact with. I called adults sir or ma’am. I knew talking back to my parents would result in the belt or a switch being brought out. I also knew that a friends parents had the authority and willingness to take me over their knee if I acted up at their house as well. Parents taught respect and the value of an education. They taught the value of a firm handshake. If you wanted a job, you put on your good clothes and went out and attempted to impress employers. Now 13 year olds tell a woman with two small children to “watch where the f**k they’re going” when they bump into them. Kids cuss at their parents, tell police officers to go f**k themselves (I wonder where they learn that from Professor Gates), and show no respect to their elders. They show up for interviews with pants below their ass and an attitude.

In general sports stars attempted to act as the heroes that kids saw them as. Now they are habitual cheaters who treat their fans as though they are a lower class of people. Hollywood was filled with talent and an air of glamour. Now those same stars go out and show off their shaved hoo ha to the paparazzi, they have reality shows that reward outrageous behavior instead of principled behavior. Kids spent their afternoons outside, playing baseball or football, playing house with their friends, or building a fort. Now they sit in front of the TV playing killing cops in Grand Theft Auto and working their way to being overweight before college.

Even the bullies had honor. If you got into a fight, you could expect to fight with your fists and find out who the tougher SOB was. Now they simply pull a gun and shoot you. They place no value on human life. They will kill you for a pair of sneakers or a fur lined coat.

Firm HandshakeMost importantly, your word was your bond. If you said you would do something, you did it because you gave your word. A handshake was a sufficient contract. You did the right thing because it was the right thing to do. You didn’t hit women. If you did, you were shunned, and rightly so. Criminals were criminals. Now they are Rap stars.

The news was the news. If you saw something on the news, it was the facts and nothing but. No bias, no attempting to use the news as a weapon. And politics was a debate. People came to the table with ideas, they discussed the consequences and the obstacles. And they decided on the best course of action and went with it. The motive was to solve a problem. Now the media is a tool, and there is no unbiased media at all. The motive is not problem solving. The motive has become control; who can get it and who can keep it and use it.

Yes, my friends, America is changing. It is NOT the country that I grew up in. And there are VERY few ways in which the changes have been for the better. I don’t feel this way because I am a racist. It has nothing to do with race at all. It has to do with the complete loss of values, principles, morals, self sufficiency, personal responsibility, and determination that made this country great at one time. It has to do with the loss of the true American spirit. It has to do with my feeling more alone than I ever have before because I still operate with values, principles, and determination.

America is changing.

And I don’t like it one bit.

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Comments

  1. I wholeheartedly agree.

    The god of self is reigning with an iron fist.

    Respect in its original form seems to be a dirty word (although there aren’t any dirty words anymore) It seems that people are standing on their soapboxes yelling “Give me respect!”, completely oblivious that its earned and not given.

    • Edward:

      You have reached the wrong conclusion I am afraid. “The god of self is reigning with an iron fist.”

      It is just the opposite that is the problem. What appears to be selfish behavior today is rooted in the selflessness of Altruism and Pragmatism.

      An ethic based on self fosters self respect which comes from personal responsibility and action.

      When one accepts sacrifice of self for the collective you get the kind of behavior we abhor today. Little fits of “independence” acting out in a “uniform” style. Acting like they are individuals and free while holding out their hands for free cookies or “entitled” benefits.

      Hope All is Well With You Today
      JAC

      • oops.

        Should have been clearer. Replace self with ‘me’.

        I need whatever makes ME happy.

        I should not have to beg for it.
        I should not have to work for it.
        I should not have to pay for it.
        I should not have to deserve it.
        I am entitled to it.

  2. Absolutly true.

    When you give something free, people do not value it.
    The work ethic is no longer in the work place.
    It takes reams of paper to make a contract today, that use tobe done with a hand shake.

  3. I thank God that at least some people believe this, USW. It increasingly seems like we are a minority in this world. I saw on the news this morning that there is a law in New York (and other places) that forces neighborhoods to build low income housing so that poor people can live wherever they want. The one in question was the county where the Clintons live. My jaw hit my chest. The county was forced to pay fines and pay for new housing at a total of $85 million! The only place to build the low income housing was next to the mansions. I can’t imagine how much equity those people will lose in their houses. Since when is living in a rich neighborhood a right?

    My father is the epitome of the american dream. He was born on a US army base and grew up on a farm in Maryland. His family was poor, but they lived within their means. He was married and had two kids when he took a summer temp job at a natural gas company. He was the ONE person out of the 10 temps that was given a job because he was the hardest worker. He started at the bottom of the company. We lived in an apartment until I was 5, when they bought their first house, a nice little 2 bedroom maybe 1000 sq ft. He continued distinguishing himself from his peers and moving up in the company. Now he is the manager of all of Virginia and parts of West Virginia for corrosion prevention. NOW he can afford a nice house! I can’t believe people out there who demand people like my father give up their hard earned money to people who haven’t given a tenth as much effort as he has! And to top things off, he gives money to the church and to charity of his own free will. That’s right, he gives money away! It’s time for people to start living for themselves like my father! I can only hope I’m half the man he is!

    • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

      JB,

      It sounds like you love and respect your father, and realize exactly what he did to get to where he is. If you emulate what he did and have strong ethics and morals, you won’t have any problem being well more than half the man he is. Learn all you can from him.

    • Jb, You already have one of his attributes, respect for elders and/or parents. This leads me to believe you have a whole lot more of his attributes also. I don’t think you have to worry about being the man he is.

      Most kids these days have no respect or admiration for older folks and none even for their parents. I think the correct word for most of them is punks.

  4. Black Flag says:

    Global CO2 production up 2% in 2008
    …from another blog…

    Reuters reported that the global carbon dioxide output in 2008 was 1.94 percent higher than in 2007. You can see that in 2008, the CO2 growth probably exceeded the GDP growth. Under normal circumstances, the CO2 growth may be equal to the GDP growth minus 1 percentage point or so (because of the gradually increasing “carbon efficiency” of the economy).

    At any rate, such numbers make it very clear that the ideas about 20% or 80% reductions within a decade are completely unrealistic (and both 20% and 80% are qualitatively equally silly) unless a new revolutionary technology takes over the world: but the events of this unusual kind cannot be ordered by bureaucrats.

    I find it likely that sometime in 30-100 years, such a breakthrough will indeed take place. But no one knows when and where this development will occur. It makes no sense to speculate about such events or include them in the short-term and medium-term planning.

    The CO2 growth seems identical to the growth before the Kyoto protocol (and it has accumulated to a 40% jump since 1990) which means that the hundreds of billions of dollars – and surely trillions if you add them up – have been completely wasted even if you were imagining that modified CO2 emissions could detectably influence the climate which they can’t.

    It’s the carbon criminals who pocket this money. The grey carbon economy is one of the big tumors parasiting on the human society.

    • BF, I start every day with visits to the following:

      First following the money.
      http://masterresource.org/

      Then the hard data.
      http://wattsupwiththat.com/
      http://www.co2science.org/
      http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/
      http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/ (just in case)

      The only “Warmies” I remotely trust as they never took up the chant of “Armageddon”. Read this to see the ever adapting stance on climate change from non-alarmist scientists.
      http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/news/latest/

    • Yesterday I made some flight arrangements and at the end of the reservation process, a notice popped up with the calculation of what my carbon imprint was because of the trip I had booked and if I was interested in paying for that carbon imprint right now, I could pay an additional $xx.

    • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

      CO2 is not a leading indicator for “climate change”, it is a trailing indicator. As we have discussed before, ice core samples may not be completely accurate for a variety of reasons, but they do show that in the case of every ice age CO2 maximum occurred about 200-300 years AFTER the cooling was well underway. They also show that at various times in the past, the global atmospheric concentration of CO2 was anywhere from 8 to 10 times HIGHER than it is now. There have also been periods where global atmospheric CO2 concentration was lower, but the concentration of CO2 that we have in the atmosphere currently is still pretty low by geological/historical standards.

      Also, we have talked before about the earth having a well-mixed atmosphere. This is MOSTLY true. However, depending on atmospheric conditions, there is a phenomenon called “mixing height” which is the height at which the atmosphere actually becomes well mixed. We see this phenomenon demonstrated on very hazy or “smoggy” days. On these days, the mixing height is very high, so industrial and vehicle emissions do not become well-mixed into the atmosphere and tend to just hang around at ground level.

      On any day during which our human CO2 emmissions do not reach the mixing height of the atmosphere for that given day, the CO2 (being heavier and denser than air) will tend to find the lowest spot possible to accumulate. On a great many days, our CO2 emmissions do reach mixing height and are integrated into the atmosphere, but on some days our CO2 emmissions actually do find their way to the ground or even underground. Over time, most of the CO2 we emit does get mixed into the general atmosphere, but not 100% of what we emit. The other factor to consider is that the entirety of human CO2 emmissions since the industrial revolution started still only acount for a very small fraction of the total CO2 in the atmosphere.

      There are so many reasons that human-caused CO2 emmissions can be totally discounted as a climate driver that I am not going to even bother going into any more of the reasons here. For those of you who are interested, I can provide links to a ton of studies that show that solar activity, wobbles in the sun due to the center of mass of the solar system varying over time, wobbles in the axial position of the earth, and a few other major gravitational and magnetic factors are the driving forces of climate on Earth.

      • There a thing about too many links being posted?

        Any way here’s one of the seven sights I go to daily and its all about the money: http://masterresource.org/

        Do yourself a favor and read it. Also the comments as they at times are from those right in the middle of things including the IPCC.

        • Alan,

          Yes if you post a comment with two or more links in it, the comment automatically goes into moderation. It then sits there until I come in and see it and approve it. I try to check in regularly to do so, but sometimes it takes a couple hours. Great links you provided above. Thanks!

    • All this Global Warming stuff is nothing but BS.

      Use your common sense, that is if you have any, and just think about it anyway!

      C02 is what all mammals exhale, and we have been doing that since before all the past ice ages.

      So, I just say to all “Global Warmers” . . . . . . . . . . . “GET A LIFE!”

  5. PeterB in Indianapolis says:

    USW,

    I disagree with you on one point. I am 41 now. Even when I was growing up, the news was not STRICTLY the news. There was bias to it even in the 70s, it just wasn’t so blatantly obvious, and they saved the blatantly obvious bias for the “editorial” part of the nightly news. Even in Walter Cronkite’s glory days it was still biased, you just had to look harder.

    On the vast majority of your other points, I totally agree.

    As far as the “racism” argument goes, I think that from now on anytime someone brings up “racism” in a debate in which it is clearly not present, we should all demand that the question be asked, “Do you have any valid points to bring up which would refute the argument of the other side? If not, we will assume that you are stipulating that the argument of the other side is valid.”

  6. Yes, this country is changing and yes, I don’t like the direction. Call me a racist! I now have so many labels what is one more?

    I do think one good thing about so many squawking “racist”, is that it has lost some of its meaning…..crying wolf too often. Used to be just the Jackson and Sharptons, now it is all over and its lost some of its sting.

  7. Oh crap, USW….I wanted to sit out some more and not comment but you hit my “hot button”. I have to comment but it will be a little later today because I think that I will watch the “left” respond to you first.

    Racism is a buzz word today. That is all it is. I want to see it proven to me…now….today. Not what we did years ago that was unjust. People who use that term today are ignorant, self defeating bigots. Simple as that.

    You are on target here but will respond in full later today.

    BTW…how are you?

    D13

  8. Well for the most part USW I agree. This is not the country I grew up in either. I grew up knowing that we respected adults and that if we wanted money as kids, we worked. Whether it be the chores we did or mowing neighbors yards. I grew up knowing that if I wanted money I was going to work hard for it. My grandfather owned and operated a local tavern most of his life, he worked long hard hours to make sure he could provide for his family. My grandmother drove a school bus during the school year to bring in extra money for the family. We, as a family, took care of each other. If someone need help fixing something at their home, we all showed up to help.
    Now kids expect to get money for nothing and want all the high end toys. I was invited over to a co workers home, along with everyone from the office, for a pre Christmas gathering. I was walking by their den and saw a couple of mid-teen age kids watching tv. I poke my head in a said Hello and asked how they were doing. They all said HI without actually looking at me. I asked what they were watching. It was called “My sweet sixteen”. It showed these kids screaming and yelling because their folks had not wasted enough money on their party. One set of parents spent 160,000 dollars on this party. I couldnt believe what I was watching. I just shook my head and left the room. That is the future of this country.

    Race is a issue I believe we still deal with in this country. But not at the level that everyone wants us to believe. Just because I might not agree with your policy, doesnt make me a racist.

    • “Just because I might not agree with your policy, doesnt make me a racist.” Apparently it does and neither being of high melanin content, none or any point in between will change that. Look at me a “green conservative socialist free market capitalist” and I can’t stand the sight of POTUS. Its likely because he’s lighter skinned than my wife and 2 of my 4 daughters. Canadian racism at work, the closer you are to the color of a snow flake the more likely that seat at the back of the dog sled.

      Check out the Shelby Steele interview I posted above. It has all the answers to what’s going on with regard to “racism” in America today.

  9. All;

    I agree completely with USW. Racisum does not play into the frustration demonstrated by those who disagree with how the country is being run; it is a matter of pride and self respect. Pride and self respect that has too some degree been subdued these past years, but is now awakened.

    That maybe in part why there is so much anger demonstrated at Town Hall meetings. Most people’s initial reaction to transgression is anger followed by action and then some form of recourse.

    The actions of the left and media to squelch those voices is a defense move, nothing more. Those who oppose the voice and actions of us out there speaking our minds and demonstrating our desire for freedom and liberty don’t care what we have to say, and will in turn fabricate whatever they need to either drown us out or squash us entirely. As I have said before it is all about power and greed, and it doesn’t matter who they have to step on to obtain it.

    The country and the American way have been altered these past several years; and not for the better.

    My father was raised on a farm in Indiana along with 3 other syblings. My Grandfather was a share cropper who made $7.00 a day, but he managed to raise 4 children who all grew up making their own way. My father enlisted in The Army when he was 18, served his time and came home to work on the family farm. (By them my Grandparents had managed to purchase several hundred acers and maintained a respectful living). Dad left the farm and went to Work for International Harvester in Ft. Wayne for 35 years. He believed in paying cash for everything except the home and saved his money. Mom was a mother and stayed home. My brother and I grew up in a small community and I spent most of my summers on my family’s farm. I learned what hard work was all about and what it met to be self-sufficent. The belt was the tool for disapline and it didn’t have a negative effect. My mother, aunt, grandmothers and cousins all canned and raised their own veggies. We grew our own beef and pigs and both my brother and I were 4-H members. I was driving a tractor at 10, a combine at 14 and hunting at 9.

    Although my children did not have the opportunity to grow up on a farm they both understood the value of hard work, self reliance and determination. My son enlisted in the Army on June 19th 2001. He was going to make a career out of it and become a MD. 911 changed those plans and he went to Iraq with the 3rd Infantry. He served almost 2 years in Iraq, burried 12 brothers and earned a Bronze Star as a Combat line Medic. He is now raising a wonderful grandson and going to school to become either a pharmasist or RN.

    My daughter is a Customer Service Rep and going to school for Art. She is charming, gracious and loved by everyone who is fortunate enough to know her. She will be a contributor not a taker.

    My morals, values and beliefs were instilled in me by my parents and family. Unfortunately those morals, values and beliefs were bastardized to a great degree throughout our current society. And that is the main reason this country faces it’s current challenge. People got lazy and allowed the government to enable them to take the easy path.

    Although American’s are seemingly being awakened, it will be a long and hard row to hoe. That does not mean those maorals, values and beliefs can’t be reinstated in society, but it will have to be done by example not by force. You can lead a horse to water….

    They Tea Parties and Town Hall meetings need to continue, although I would encourage people to get past the anger and shouting and focus on controled intelligent questioning. If we do so we will demonstrate superior strength, higher intelligence, reason, and as such further our cause and endeavor.

    Coupling that and living our lives as our parents and grandparents did will strengthen our efforts and better enable us to re-take the reins when the time comes.

    CM

    • CM:

      You raise a couple of points that I would like to address for everyone.

      “People got lazy and allowed the government to enable them to take the easy path.” It is more than this in my view. People allowed the govt to replace them as the teacher and keeper of the moral and ethical standards.

      “…..I would encourage people to get past the anger and shouting and focus on controled intelligent questioning. If we do so we will demonstrate superior strength, higher intelligence, reason, and as such further our cause and endeavor.” Two parts here. First, I agree folks need to try and control their anger. They can find ways to express their disdain without booing and screaming.

      Second, the average American can not engage in a public policy discussion with “policy wonks” and win in any way. That is the nature of public policy discussion and why the Congress critters are trying to engage the public in discussion of the pro’s and con’s of the current legislation. You claim the bill will kill the elderly. I can show you exactly where in the Bill that will not happen. Now you look STUPID and have lost credibility on all future discussion. By the end of next week this will begin to happen. The President will lead the way with his town hall in New Hampshire.

      If citizens start asking questions about core principles and how this, or other, legislation fits the core values of American and the Constitution they will be standing on equal or better ground. And the answers they get will expose the Policy Makers for the dopes they are.

      The other question they should ask is for the Talkers to present a “concise and accurate description of the problem or problems”. And “40 million uninsured” is not a description of the problem, it is a symptom of a problem.

      The Best to You CM
      JAC

      • JAC

        I always look forward to your thoughts. ‘Allowed’ is a form of lazy and/or self-promoted ignorance from a lack of caring. It is not easy to maintain the morals, values and belief’s instilled by parents like mine. As a matter of fact it is very difficult, especially when all those around you don’t.

        It’s not easy maintaining your path of direction when it is filled with revines, mountains and pitfalls, but the steadfast do because it is the rightous way; and in the end they are ‘more better’, as the cajuns would say.

        I believe people settled into this mindset because they wanted to keep up with the Jones’s and felt they earned the right to a certain level of prosperity. Peer pressure is a dangerous motivator. Bob buys his wife a mink, Bob’s buddy Dick is forced to do so also in order to keep the peace in his house, because his wife Betty is envious of Bob’s wife. Envy, pride, government influence and credit are instigators of our current dilemma, but it was overall laziness and the entitlement mentality that drove out the morals, values and belief’s instilled by our parents; or at least weakened them and/or subdued them.

        My father and mother always wanted a place on the lake. Even though some of their neighbours had one before they did my parents were disaplined enough that they waited, saved their money and paid cash. When the economy went to the dogs in 80-81 some of those neighbours were forced to sell to make ends meet. Dad and Mom held onto theirs because the had paid cash.

        I think that we are where we are today as a society is because we got lazy by trading away some of all of those values, morals and belief’s for the mink coat or lake cottage.

        Did the government influence this mentality. Certainly, because they saw an opportunity to gain additional influence and additional favor.

        Because society was willing to trade off some of it’s freedom and liberty for the material possessions they sought, the government became accustomed to doing more and more; and all for a few “nice things”. As they say: “Give a mouse a cookie and he is going to want a glass of milk”.

        I will make the argument that you can be just as lazy with your values, morals and belief’s as you can with the tasks of a job or raising your children; digression will lead to an inferior end result or lifestyle.

        As for debating the non-representing representatives, I would agree with you in principle, but that does not suggest that you cannot attend well prepared and in possession of factual data. I guess it is a matter of choosing not to be lazy

        Hope all is well at your end of the country and your trip to Michigan was prosperous

        CM

        • The trip was great and saw much beautiful country.

          Except God forgot to put mountains where they should have been. Thick forests and clear lakes, but no mountains in the background. Most disturbing to a Rocky Mtn boy.

          The upper part of Michigan was a different world given what is going on in the rest of the state. You could hardly tell there was any economic problems in the country, let alone in Michigan.

          As for the town halls I agree that everyone should attend and ask questions. I am just saying they should prepare questions on things the technocratic policy wonks won’t be prepared for that get to the REAL problems.

          Here’s another. “Mr./Ms. XXXXXXX , you elected politicians have been promising us that these types of programs will not become more burdensome ever since FDR got Soc Sec passed. Yet those promises have all been broken. So how do you propose to make sure YOUR promises regarding Health Care are in fact kept and not broken in the years to come?”

          You see there is only one HONEST answer, within the constitution. They Can’t!!!!

          No Congress can tie the hands of a subsequent congress, except through Amendment.

          You are absolutely correct in that Laziness is what largely got us here. The success of our Republic and the protection of what Liberty it was supposed to secure requires “active diligence” by the citizens.

          But it also requires that those citizens in fact share the need to protect that liberty, even at the expense of some personal hardship from time to time.

          Yours in the fight
          JAC

    • CM — if I guessed you know how to play Euchre, would I be right? csm

      • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

        Don’t know about CM, but I know how to play Euchre. I prefer Bridge though… takes more thought. Sometimes Euchre is better because it is more fast-paced and some really ridiculous things can happen from time to time.

        • I understand that the game is a regional one — but I know that you can get a hand started in at least one spot in Colorado. So Peter, do you play for fun, or is it cut-throat? 😉 c

          • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

            I haven’t played Bridge or Euchre in quite a while… the friends that I normally play with all have kids (and I do too), so we don’t get together on Friday and Saturday nights nearly as often as we used to. We just play for fun. If you want to see a cut-throat game of Euchre, go to any retirement home in the southern 2/3 of the state of Indiana though… they are famous for their cut-throat Euchre games 🙂

      • CSm;

        Sorry for the long delay, but I had to take care of business; just got back. Yes I do know how and as a matter of fact play 2-3 times a month with one other couple and 1 time a month in an orgianization.

        When we are playing with our friends it is boys against girls and my buddy and I usually wind up getting pummeled

        • All;

          It must be a midwest thing. Mom and Dad played for years. Another one that has gained some attention with my group is rummy. Not gin-rummy, just rummy.

          I played strip rummy with my wife at the cottage a few weeks ago and made out like…well a bandit

  10. Racism will never go away, it has always been around, and it will continue to be around for eons. I don’t understand how when these town hall meetings take place, why they are considered racist, it doesn’t make any sense to me at all. What’s so racist about them anyway? Just because we don’t agree with policies, we’re now racist. Give me a break.

    When I was growing up, like everybody here, you always had respect for the older people, never called them by their first name, was always Mr. or Mrs. so and so. My parents made sure of that. Us kids always found things to do, whether it be riding our bikes, roller skating, or playing hop-scotch. We didn’t want to stay in doors and do nothing. All 3 of us kids had our friends to hang out with and do stuff, didn’t depend on our parents for entertainment.

    Like so many here, my parents worked hard to make a home for us, made sure we had what we needed, because when they were growing up during the depression, that had nothing, and they knew what hard work meant. They were lucky if they got a new pair of shoes or a jacket to keep warm in the winter time.

    Kids now, not all, but for the most part, does not have respect for people. They don’t want to have to do anything seems like. They always seem to want to most expensive clothes or shoes, or has to have the latest in all the electronic gadgetry, and not want to earn that. I had chores to do when I was young, in order to get an allowance to be able to buy myself something. Now they can’t even do that.

    Neighbor helping neighbor, you don’t really see that anymore. They don’t want to get involved. Might be an exception if you do get a helping hand from one. Though not very often. When my boys were young and we lived in Burbank Calif., there were a ton of kids in the neighborhood, and they all played together, and the parents were always out there with them gossiping with each other.

    We used to invite each other over for birthday parties, BBQ’s, or just have a once a week get together. Now, you’re lucky if you even know what your neighbor’s name is. Too bad really.

    I agree with you USW, America isn’t what it used to be. Where is the pride in people anymore? We’ve seem to have lost that somewhere a long time ago.

    Judy

    • Next Town Hall Meeting, my question is going to be. “Congressman, now that you have had a month’s vacation, have you taken the time to actually READ this bill? Can you explain how all the ridiculously stupid parts got in it?

      And then I’m going to name off some of the stupid parts and see if he can answer them.

      Judy. I didn’t get to answer you the other day about being confronted by goons at town hall meetings. The answer is NO. I don’t want a fist fight with anybody. I am a crippled up old fat man and would get my rear end handed to me.

      However, No one is going to stop me from going into a town hall meeting. I’m not looking for any trouble, just answers to troubling questions I have about this retarded bill. If some ACORN\SEIU\Obamaton thug tries to strongarm me though, I do have a solid hickory cane that I will wrap around his noggin, and then shove up his behind sideways for his trouble.

      • Esom, no problem about not giving an answer, we all get caught up in other things.

        Dollars to dough nuts, I best not one of them will have read the bill.

        They showed on Hannity last night, yes we watch him, about this girl who was at a meeting trying to find her father at the meeting, but the bull dogs at the door was pushing her away until she fought through them. Apparently her dad is in a wheelchair and has cancer and she wanted to get him out, but come to find out, they were beating on her dad, apparently for asking the wrong question or something. I’m not really sure.

        That’s getting to be a bit much when you can’t even ask a civilized question without getting the crap beat out of you, and especially when someone is in a wheelchair ridden with cancer. If you get accosted at one of the meetings, then by all means give them a whack with your cane, because they’ll deserve it.

        Like I said yesterday, it’s really too bad that Obama has to send in his henchmen the way he does. Whatever happened to the freedom to be able to protest? I guess now, they want to take that away from you too. I think that’s where a lot of the trouble comes from too at these meetings, when you have to fight off someone who won’t let you speak your mind.

        Have a good day Esom, and will catch back with all later. Getting ready to leave for work.

        Take care.

        Judy

      • It wouldn’t do any good for a politician to read the health care bill. He/she wouldn’t have a clue what it does. That alone is reasons enough to vote against it.

        • Does anybody have a clue at what it’s suppose to do?

          • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

            Judy S.

            It is supposed to remove all freedom of choice that you have when it comes to your own care. It is also supposed to remove what little is left of your privacy.

            It will do a great job at both of these things.

            • Peter

              I knew that, I was talking about anybody in congress finding the time to read it, not did anybody here knew what it meant. Sorry for the confusion, guess I didn’t make that comment clear. But thanks anyway.

              Judy

      • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

        Just remember Esom,

        If the state initiates violence against you, you are supposed to just sit there and take it. If you force against the state, even in retalliation, expect to be arrested.

        And remember, this is supposedly the land of the free in which this is happening.

      • Hello Esom and Judy and all,

        If I could go to a town hall meeting, I would say:

        “I’m not here to ask a question but to make a statement. I object to every single bill that has been passed EVER that infringes on our individual freedom and liberty. I want you to go back to Washington and insist that all laws and regulations in conflict with the CONSTITUTION be revoked.

        Now, please explain how the Health Care bill is supported in the constitution. Cap & Trade? NAIS? Food Safety Act?

        (Blank look on representative’s face. Stammering and stuttering.)

        I see. You have just admitted that you not qualified to represent me, I accept your RESIGNATION!”

        • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

          I believe that that is PRECISELY what EVERYONE should be doing at these town hall meetings.

          🙂

          • Hey Dee

            Haven’t seen you on here for a while, but am glad that you’re here today.

            About you comment. Couldn’t agree with you more.

            Judy

            • Hi Judy,

              My Mom died on July 31st, and I have been dealing with those issues.

              Never realized how many times a day I thought about calling her.

              One thing I am grateful for is that she never had to be under the new HC that is proposed, it would have been a disaster for her.

              • My deepest sympathies to you, Dee. c

              • Thank you, Csm.

                It’s always hard to lose our loved ones, I feel like a big baby at the moment.

              • Dee, my heart goes out to you. It’s never easy to lose someone you love. When I was 16 my oldest brother died tragically — that changed my whole life. My father-in-law’s mother died quietly a 94 with him by her side. He told me later he just wished he could have 15 minutes more with her — I had always thought the same about my brother, We never have enough time with those who own our hearts. My faith tells me you will see her again. I will pray for both of you — c

              • Dee, Please accept my condolences, I’m so sorry to hear that. You go right ahead and feel like a big baby, it’s your right to feel that way, and it’s your way of dealing with your loss.

                My thoughts and prayers go out to you at this time. Damn, I’m even crying right now.

                I know how you feel at losing someone like that, for I lost my dad 11 years ago, and my brother 17 years ago.

                God be with you Dee and your family.

                Please Take Care,okay.

                Judy

              • Thank you, Judy for the kind words. It means a lot at this time.

              • My sympathies, Dee. Hope you are doing OK.

              • Thank you, Kathy.

                I’m doing OK, just the natural course of life is not always easy to accept.

        • Woohoo!

          O’Reilly (Fox News Channel) just showed a clip of someone asking pretty close to those questions at Arlen Specters meeting. Priceless!

          I’ll have to try to find a clip with his response…it was cut off before that was shown.

          • Found it:

            The part I was referring to starts at about 1:50. Specters response is pathetic, IMO.

            • Sean Hannity has the lady on his show right now.

              • And did you hear how she is getting phone calls calling her names, then they hang up on her?

                It’s really pathetic to think that in this day and age, you can’t ask simple questions without being called names. I agree with what she said, about how our founding fathers are probably rolling over in their graves. Funny, I said the same thing last week.

                Well, I guess I’m a terrorist and and racist now for what I believe in.

                I almost choked when Spector said they are following the constitution. What a joke.

      • Tully then lists and discusses the five freedoms lost under ObamaCare:

        1. Freedom to choose what’s in your plan
        2. Freedom to be rewarded for healthy living, or pay your real costs
        3. Freedom to choose high-deductible coverage
        4. Freedom to keep your existing plan
        5. Freedom to choose your doctors

        The following paragraphs from Tully about Point 4 should be enough to shut down the nonsensical claim that ObamaCare won’t ultimately end up being state-controlled and state-run, whether you’re currently in an ERISA (i.e., company-sponsored) plan or not (bolds are mine):

        The bill gives ERISA employers a five-year grace period when they can keep offering plans free from the restrictions of the “qualified” policies offered on the exchanges. But after five years, they would have to offer only approved plans, with the myriad rules we’ve already discussed. So for Americans in large corporations, “keeping your own plan” has a strict deadline. In five years, like it or not, you’ll get dumped into the exchange. As we’ll see, it could happen a lot earlier.

        http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/08/10/fortune-editor-breaks-cnners-obamacare-details-freedoms-lost-inevitable-

        Obama & Co. can truthfully state this will not force us to a single payer (government) system. It sets us on the path to single payer.

      • Esom, a little FYI

        Conservatives Packing Heat at Town Hall Meetings
        Posted by Mark Ristaino, AlterNet on August 11, 2009 at 11:55 AM.

        The town hall meeting / tea bagger story line is starting to get a little too twisted for my taste. This week, in two separate incidents, one in Tennessee and one in Arizona, armed civilians were reported to town hall meetings to speak their mind.

        http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/#141909

        Which if I go to one, I will carry, as is legal.

    • I agree that as a whole, its not the same country. But at the same time, we, the silent majority are fighting back. I have had compliments on my kids behavior in public, and expect their friends parents have as well. We have guided them, as expected, when they hang out with a bad influence (rude speech, etc)we tell them not to play with them if they talk that way. Try to give that child a chance to correct their behavior. Only had one parent call and ask us to let our child play with theirs again (no). Seems like about 1/3 are good, same # bad, and same are indifferent. It is getting worse, but we are fighting back harder, whatever names they may call us.

  11. Oh where to start. Ok, let’s follow your article and start with racism. First, this is a term that was a hot button in the 60’s, 70’s, and early 80’s. All one had to do was claim racist and you shuddered in your boots. Hell, racism has existed as far back as Roman days and before and mostly WHITE were in chains and bondage. Being a victim of racial overtones is not reserved to blacks nor Hispanics nor Chinese nor Jews nor any other ethnic group. When I went to Bosnia, I supervised the digging up of mass graves of tens of thousands executed European Caucasians all in the name of ethnic cleansing. What has happened in the United States was a progression of cultures that were brought over and as generations of Americans developed, those cultures have started dying out. It is easy to put a label on things and racism is a political hot button. What is happening now is that generations are growing up and racism is dying out but there are those factions that wish to keep it alive. I will make a statement that what I see most these days is reverse racism and, yes, for those of you whom lean left, there is such a thing. As I said, I want to see racism proven to me….today…in this time. I do not want to see some “one” little item but where it is institutionalized as in the past. Do not throw statistics at me….figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.

    Just because someone is black and you disagree does not racism make. And those who think it does, are ignorant and self defeating morons that can’t make it on their own. Enough said.

    America has changed and is changing at a rapid pace and the irony of it is that for some reason, we feel it necessary to give a s*** what the world thinks. I simply do not care what Europe thinks. I do not care what China thinks. I do not care what the rest of this “kumbaya” world thinks. We should be independent and set the standard. We do not need marching armies to do this. We simply need that American spirit that used to be here. ( For those of you on the left, do not even think about going back to the past and talk of slavery and racism, for these are time worn excuses that show you have no brains). Political correctness has replaced hard work. Entitlement mentality has replaced incentive. The “give me” socialists have taken over simply because those of us that do hard work were working and not minding the store and we left our political doors unlocked thinking that EVERYONE will aspire to the American dream. Well, the criminals came in. And there is no worse criminal activity going on than is going on now in the White House and the Congress and the Supreme Court. We, you and I, dropped the ball. Ok, so, we learn a lesson. It is not the bottom of the ninth…not yet. It is not all Obama…he did not have a “mandate”…it is our Congress. Obama can do nothing without them. AND it extends to both sides of the aisle.

    To our neighbors up North and our “used to be mother country” England, and France…. Do not try to sell your political wares here. Do not try to peddle your so called health care here. We DO NOT want nationalization of anything. Is it happening….yes it is. But one good thing coming out of this seems to be a wake up call. There are NO ENTITLEMENTS out there. I am sorry, but Americans are not entitled to vacations or holidays or money or welfare. Get out and work for it. Our system of government is not perfect…but whose is. Any government that takes away incentive takes away liberty.

    We are a fledgling country and we are going through a stage….a metamorphoses. This country was built by hard work. Not sitting on a lazy ass and watching plasma tv’s, listening to IPOD’s, wearing Nikes, getting free education, free food, playing WIFI, getting free health care, free transportation, disability SSN, $4500 rebates on cars (incidentally, that will end up just like the housing market with people not making their “new” car payments), living in government supplied housing with subsidized water and electricity and coupons for air conditioners and fans, coupons for changing your tv to HD…and the list goes on.

    We make a big deal out of slavery that happened in the 1800’s and a big deal out of racism…..how about this administration (and others in the past) creating a bigger slave state than those that existed back then? The chains and bindings are different but no less restraining and the audience larger. Is not the attack on the rich a form of racism? Hell, we are defining everything else why not redefine racism as class warfare instead of skin color? I like rich people…they make me want to work harder…not try to figure out how to take their money except by providing a service they want. I want what they have. (No, left wingers, do not give me diatribe about getting rich off the backs of others. That is also an excuse. ) We want to punish people for being successful and I do not understand why EXCEPT that it is class envy.

    The concept of “leveling the playing field” is nothing more than disincentive. Who gives a rat’s ass that some executive makes $20 million? Good for him/her or her/him. If I do not like it, I will not buy their products. Do I back my statements up? You bet your sweet bippy, I do. For example, I do not like the Gm bailout. I do not like the fact that the bond holders got screwed out of their money in favor of labor unions through a stacked bankruptcy court. Therefore, I will not buy a GM product nor will I invest in the bond market of GM or any bailed out car manufacturer. I will invest in other markets within the United States. I do not go to Target Stores because of their ties to France, I will pay a little more or do without. There are others, but you get the point.

    Where is the outrage on the war in Afghanistan? Where is the media? Where are the left wingers that should be screaming about this war more than the one in Iraq? Where is the thinking that we are intervening in this country’s sovereignty? We are going to have more troops involved in a short while in a war over territory that is accomplishing nothing. At least Iraq had the weak argument of finishing what was started or at the very least, big oil. I have been to Afghanistan and there is nothing there but poppy’s. Hmmmmm..new conspiracy here? Take over the poppy fields and pay off our National Debt? Even if we get the world hooked on cocaine and we controlled the market, it will take decades with the spending that is going on now.

    In conclusion, USW, you have support from me on your article. It is well written and your points well articulated. I am sure that the left will have its arguments but that is all it would be because even they cannot support disincentive and sitting on their ass. They may not articulate it, but they think it. I know too many of them. AND, they cannot legitimately blame Bush….that is getting old as well.

    Side note: OBAMA…this is for you….want to raise your stock in my eyes…..use the G** damned veto. You claim to be for this country? Then use the one weapon you have and force Congress’ next move. You want to REALLY level the playing field and create incentive? Then use the Veto… if Congress does override, they will be replaced. Try it….you might like the results. The only pissed off people will be the hard left and those that think the vote is worthless…for it will prove them wrong.

    • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

      D13,

      There was one single point that I have to disagree with in your post… poppies are used to produce opium/heroin, the coca plant is used to produce cocaine.

      Other than that, every single point was very good!

      Don’t you just love nit-pickers? 🙂

      • LOL…just shows you I know not much about the making of drugs…but you are correct. No misspent youth here.

        Not nit picky at all….you are correct and that is ok.

        • D13 Obama is the problem. He’s absolutely nothing like role he plays as POTUS in real life. It was a sad day when Hillary Clinton lost out to ACORN and the Unions. Say what you want about her but she’d have not gutted the country to pay off her creditors.

    • Murphy's Law says:

      D13 said- “I want to see racism proven to me….today…in this time. I do not want to see some “one” little item but where it is institutionalized as in the past.”

      What a great point, one I have never seen articulated on this blog before. Racism used to be institutionalized in this country in the segregation laws we had. No more. Of course racism still exists in some people’s hearts……like those in the KKK…….Professor Gates……Sonia Sotomayor……and Obama.

      And a host of others in the MSM.

      Obviously this list is not exhaustive…….so don’t ask why I didn’t include this person or that organization……you get my point.

    • Good Morning Colonel:

      Afraid you have it reversed: “Any government that takes away incentive takes away liberty. ”

      You must take away Liberty first. The very essence of Liberty is “Individual Responsibility”. The responsibility for one’s own life, in its entirety. Taking away Liberty allows you to create programs that kill incentive. Which of course creates a dependent addiction to more programs which further destroy liberty and around and around it goes.

      I am not so sure we are not in the bottom of the ninth. But we still have one at bat left.

      Live Free My Friend
      JAC

    • Richmond Spitfire says:

      Dear Sir,

      You’ve summed up my frustrations very well!

      Thank you,
      RS

  12. MSNBC is such a low life organation. Many low lifes and very uneducated folks get their news from an outfit like this, so they can fling around the race card every time someone has a question not to their liking or an issue they cant stuff under the rug and no one will care about the issue at that point, but just about the attack.
    Chris matthews talked to thousand of white oprompter voters during the campaign, he knew they were voting for this black man and color didnt matter, he saw the results and race didnt matter, but then a game changer issue of health care were illness knows no color, he plays the race card, is he plain stupid or is he a very sneaky and dishonest low life scumbag perpetrating racial hatred among his mostly uneducated audience
    I bet you 75% + of their viewers finish the news hour saying yeah their just racist, thats why their against health care or the issue of the day, they go off saying they are stupid rednecks who cant except a black president.

    They dont even realize that just 8 months earlier, that it was 50%+ of Americans put a black man in office, and only 10% were black, but this is basic math so i guess we cant expect the mind numb robots of msnbc would deduce this humongeous historical and national fact.

    • MSNBC is all the truth of Saturday Night Live with none of the humor. Among the left John Stewart is seen as the true voice of news. That says it all.

      Two things you’ll never see in the same sentence? The acronym MSNBC and the word relevant.

      • Alan, I need to take a moment to compliment you on your insights into everything American. I truly don’t know how you keep up with it all. Your comments are spot on, and your use of humor is much appreciated.

        • Thanks. Its always been in a Canadian’s best interest to understand the goings on in America and their very direct effect on business here. As I see it we’ve the same parent in England and while we’re the kid who did what the parents told us to, you guys quite literally rebelled leaving home to strike out on your own at an early age. Needless to say it worked out very well for you indeed.

  13. Black Flag says:

    Racism is a right – it’s called the Right of Association.

    Any attempts regulate racism is a direct attack on the People’s Right of Association and for your own freedom, any and all such legislation must be blocked and halted or repealed.

    “If you cannot support Freedom for those who you despise, you have no idea what Freedom means”

    • It’s more than that.

      It is the right to think and hold an opinion.

      It is the right to express that opinion in speech and association.

      It ends where it would impose upon anothers rights.

      • Racism is the bastardization of clanism. Anything laid at the feet of “racism” was birthed by clan wars which go back as far as we do as a species. Us and ours over them and theirs has been the way of things as has the finiteness of resources.

    • BF,

      As much as I despise racism, I have to agree with you. It is a right of association that should not be legislated against. We don’t have to like racists, but they have the right to their opinion, regardless of how vile. Attempts to legislate against racism actually have the reverse effect. Affirmative action caused people to dislike minorities in America. This happened because the people saw a certain group getting special treatment. No one likes to see others get special treatment. I understood the premise of affirmative action, and perhaps there was a need to do something to eliminate the lack of opportunity for minorities in the past. I don’t know whether there was a way to give equal opportunity without affirmative action, but that time is long gone and AA should be a thing of the past.

      • Very well said and 100% dead on!

      • Rod Woodson was inducted into the NFL hall of fame over the weekend. He grew up a biracial child in the midwest. He mentioned that fact in his speech. “Society wants you to choose all the time what you are, but remember, God made us all of one blood and one spirit. And so I would tell parents of biracial kids, tell your kids you do not have to choose which side you’re on.” The article I read said his voice wavered as he spoke those words.

        • When we lived in Burbank, we had a mixed marriage on the block, he was black, she was white, and they had a little girl, cute as a button too. Anyway, nobody ever gave it any thought about them being of mixed race, it didn’t matter, to the rest of us. Nobody ever said any racist remarks to them, or about them. To us, they were just another family on the block and one more child for the rest of the kids to play with.

          Their little girl was always wanting to help out anybody who had a baby, she loved holding them and feeding them, and was a big help as well. She was only 10 or 11 at the time, and always had a smile on her face willing to help. She was kind of the big sister to all the kids in our neighborhood and they all loved her.

          Her parents were as nice as can be too. He made these beautiful doll houses, and occasionally he would give one or two away as gifts to those who really wanted one. He made those for a living and did really good at it. You could see all the detail he out into those doll houses and each one was just as different as the last. No two looked alike.

          My son’s didn’t know the difference between black or white then, they didn’t care, still don’t. They were just glad that there were so many kids to play with. We didn’t discuss racism back then really, to us it didn’t matter what color you were or are now.

          Judy

      • “I don’t know whether there was a way to give equal opportunity without affirmative action” but I do USW. Pure undiluted capitalism hires and fires based solely upon a workers value as an asset to the corporate entity within its structure and or by being made unavailable to its competitors. Once you have limited the profitability of a corporation, restricted market dominance or in the worst possible case being placed under the bureaucratic thumb itself, nepotism, cronyism and affirmative action infect away. The big three as an example moved away from pure capitalism in lock step with their reduction in profitability. As it turned out only Ford wasn’t infected to the point of amputating limbs but as its CEO said, performance in China had a lot to do with this which is where they had renewed that old Henry Ford way of business.

        • Alan,

          I agree with some of what you are saying here. However, I think that my statement still stands as truth. In the past, when AA was put in place originally, the free market did not offer equal opportunity to minorities. Many minorities were never given the chance to earn the education, or given the opportunity to prove that they could be an asset to a company. My claim is not that AA is needed now. I clearly state that it is not. I don’t like the idea of it even 50 years ago. But I do not see another way that minorities in this country would have been given a chance at that time.

          • The free market would’ve eventually resolved the issue, I believe. All it would take is one company hiring minorities and gaining a competitive advantage by doing so to start the chain reaction. Putting in AA made the process move along more quickly, but it also created built-in resentment towards its beneficiaries. Everyone remembers Jackie Robinson for breaking the color barrier in baseball because he was just so good that a team was willing to take a chance with him, and the floodgates did not take long to open after that as everyone started competing over the “new” talent pool. No one remembers or even really respects the minority who is perceived to have only gained his position by government dictate rather than ability.

            • Exactly, race became a moot point when competition made it so. It became in law firms best interest to have lawyers of the highest caliber of the same ethnicity as their clientele or a clientele they were vying for. The same could be shown from commerce and medicine all the way through to the political machine itself.

              Resistance always comes from forcing something that occurs naturally.

  14. I am also tired of all the charges of racism going around. The whole class warfare is just a tool for re-distribution. I think a lot of people need to get off their @$$ and stop waiting for the Gov’t to give them “free” stuff. Don’t they understand that nothing is free?

    It is interesting that Jesse and Al have been so quiet lately. Maybe they’ve been made honorary Czars? The Professor is stuck in the 60’s and needs to appreciate how far we have come since then. Stop the whining already!!

    The Town Hall meetings are Democracy in action. Yes, we need to be civilized, but the shouting is out of frustration because our “representatives” aren’t listening. More private citizens than politicians have read HR3200 or whatever the # is.

    Please help fire these clowns in 2010!!

    • They are quiet likely because…

      Guess Who “Allegedly” Beat Kenny Gladney?

      by Bill Hennessy on August 9, 2009
      in Headline

      Tea Party researchers have discovered some interesting news on one of the people arrested for beating Ken Gladney.

      “Elston K. McCowan is a former organizer – now the Public Service Director of SEIU Local 2000 – and board member of the Walbridge Community Education Center, and is a Baptist minister, has been a community organizer for more than 23 years, and now, he is running for Mayor of the City of St. Louis under the Green Party.”

      McCowan accused the Mayor of setting fire to his van . . . because that’s what big city mayors do in their spare time, I guess. He also called Slay a racist. And, on election night, McCowan thanked the family who voted for him. It was quite touching, actually.

      McCowan is not a rank-and-file, card-carrying union guy. He is a director with SEIU. He IS the union. He ISSUES the cards. Andy Stern himself might as well have kicked Gladney.

      Stern has some fishy hiring standards, folks. Can’t wait to see how he spins THIS one.

  15. Richmond Spitfire says:

    An email that I received….I love it!

    DIVORCE AGREEMENT:

    American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists
    and Obama supporters, et al:

    We have stuck together since the late 1950’s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course.

    Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way…

    Here is a model separation agreement:

    Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion.. That will be the difficu lt part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

    We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.

    You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

    We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaska n hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks.. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood …

    You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us… You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.

    We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values… You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N…. But we will no longer be paying the bill.

    We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

    You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

    We’ll pract ice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.

    Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you Answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,
    John J. Wall
    Law Student and an American

    P.S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Alec Baldwin, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, & Jane Fonda with you.

    P.S.S.. And we won’t have to press 1 for English.

    • How’s my dear Spitfire these days?

      Loved the letter as it is quite clever.

      Smiles Around
      JAC

      • Richmond Spitfire says:

        Hi JAC!

        I am doing well…been busy…gearing up for new Girl Scout/Brownie year!

        I hope you are well…

        Hugs,
        RS

        • Given the nature of the discussion today I just couldn’t resist:

          “Girl Scout/Brownie year”

          OMG Girl, you racist.
          OTFLMAO

          I am well. Resting from the long trip to Michigan and back. Getting ready for Steelhead and hunting season.

          Hugs Back at Ya
          JAC

    • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

      The Left can also have the House, Senate, Supreme Court, Federal Courts, all Federal regulatory agencies, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs.

      We will do just fine without them.

      • Can I be the gun czar for the right? I want everyone to have one.

        • Richmond Spitfire says:

          Dear D13,

          Normally, I agree with you….but…

          I really want that job…Gun Czarina Spitfire.

          Best Regards,
          RS

          • Richmond Spitfire says:

            It’s funny…Everytime I go to a Gun Show, I make the State Police Officer guess how many guns I have concealed on me before I offer them up for inspecton and tie banding.

            Usually, they are laughing hysterically by the time I’m finished fishing the concealed weapons off my person…

            .380 in the boot, 9mm off my shoulder holster, .22 out of my purse, .40 off my hip holster and .32 from between a certain area from my chest.

            During the summer months, I have “dress” down on my carrying.

            Best Regards,
            RS

            • OK, I take back giving you any big hugs.

              If I squeezed to hard you might go off accidentaly and I might lose a most precious body part.

              Perhaps I’ll just blow ya a kiss instead.

              JAC

  16. Black Flag says:

    The International Swine Flu Conference is being held in Washington D.C. next week, just two weeks after the conference on weight control that I wrote about last week. Here’s a summary of it:

    Top leaders and key decision-makers of major companies representing a broad range of industries will meet with distinguished scientists, public health officials, law enforcers, first responders, and other experts to discuss pandemic prevention, preparedness, response and recovery at the 1st International Swine Flu Summit.

    Read the agenda for the breakout sessions, especially the session on “psychological issues” (Session #2) and the topic heading: “Unwillingness to follow government orders.” Also note session #6, which includes “Control and diffuse social unrest & public disorder”and “Isolate prisons and other facilities.”

    • Black Flag says:

      PS: From another blog…

    • And don’t forget rationing of the vaccine, a precursor of Obamacare.

    • Hey Black Flag,

      I read an article on Fox yesterday about the Swine Flu and government actions.

      The comment was made that it is very likely more deaths will occur from the regular flu strains, as happens every year.

      Another “crises” not to waste, it appears. They are going apesh** over the swine flu, when the flu in general causes much more of a problem.

      • Actually the fear is another mutation to the order we have seen within h1n1. I’ve been a Medscape member since its inception and still get my Biotech Times.

        • Alan,

          Do you have data of the death rate of swine flu vs. other flu strains?

          The % rate I mean.

          And if it mutates, as viruses often do, and to a particularly dangerous form, we would be up a creek, given the time it takes to produce the vaccine.

          We had a death a week of so ago here in the Midwest from Swine Flu, however we never hear of the deaths EVERY year from other strains of flu, unless it is a very bad year. One death from Swine Flu is in the news.

          • Will dig it up at the office tomorrow. I keep the really depressing things on that file server.

            • Barbarian says:

              After returning from Jordan last week, managed to get a dose of the dreaded virus. Confirmed by our physician after recovery (fever broke) yesterday. A definite inconvenience but rather tame compared to past flu virus’s I’ve managed to pick up. However I’m usually as “healthy as a horse” in my doctor’s view.

  17. This is a quote from Abraham Lincoln from 1864. I found it in Mark Levin’s “Liberty and Tyranny”:

    Property is the fruit of labor…property is desirable…is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built”.

    A side note: This is what I think of when BF talks about violence.

    • A rather excellent book, I don’t agree with all the points but overall it’s very instructive.

    • Wasabi and DK:

      I was wondering what others here might think of Levin’s book as well.

      I just finished and all I could think as I went from chapter to chapter was> Yep, guess I aint a conservative.

      The Radical Right Wing Liberal thing is looking better all the time.

      Did you notice the contradictions in his positions regarding liberty then supporting some type of statist controls in order to create “odered Liberty”?

      Your thoughts?

      JAC

      • JAC,

        A very interesting book. I read it recently as well and I saw a lot of contradictions. A lot of the idea that “my version” of taking away your freedom isn’t as bad as “their” version of taking away my freedom.

      • This book just made it to the top of my reading list; will be starting it tonight.

  18. Black Flag says:

    Preventable medical mistakes and infections are responsible for about 200,000 deaths in the U.S. each year, according to an investigation by the Hearst media corporation.

    And it will get worse under Socialized medicine as the system becomes exhausted.

    • Figures I’ve seen indicate around one, not two hundred. I’m sure that’s included in Obama’s plan. My thought is the lawsuits hinder much that might be done to reduce this.

      • Black Flag says:

        It’s gotten worse, according to the report.

        • “Hearst media corporation” Not a reliable source, but then,
          I think mine came from an internal study done by hospital org., a couple years ago. I feel sure, the places that kill us with incompetence can give more accurate figures and reasons for all those deaths. BTW, is this not one of the few valid rolls a government should be playing?

          • Black Flag says:

            “BTW, is this not one of the few valid rolls a government should be playing?”

            NO! That’s why there’s a problem!

            The People are trapped. There is only one place to get health care and its the AMA-trained doctors. Essentially, they are immune to market forces – and believe me, killing your customers is probably the worse thing you can do for your business.

            But the AMA don’t care – because their customer is the government, not you. You are a “problem” to them.

            If there were no patients, doctors would be happy – their customer, the government would be happy, and their “problem” wouldn’t exist.

            Remove the monopoly and watch the deaths by stupidity plummet.

            • I’m on the fence on this, how do people find out about # of deaths in those hospitals? Who makes sure none are covered up? I don’t see where we can trust or count on the media. So, just like a financial audit, I would like a medical audit published each year for each hospital.

              • There is something like that, LOI.

                I have looked at those stats before, can’t remember where, though. (something like hospital score card or grade card)

                And yes, I’m sure there are ways to manipulate the numbers.

    • Just came into my email:

      http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/06/hospital.nurse.tips/index.html

      Can tell you from personal experience, this has lots of good advice. My family has a very hands on, in your face (politely, of course) attitude when a family member is hospitalized. I 100% believe we have saved lives this way.

  19. Black Flag says:

    Milton Friedman said, in the minds of the Statists, ordinary people are incapable of looking after their own interests, but are able to select wise leaders to do this for them.

  20. Been lurking, thought some humor might be appropriate.

    Why we love children?

    1) NUDITY
    I was driving with my three young children one warm summer evening when a woman in the convertible ahead of us stood up and waved. She was stark naked! As I was reeling from the shock, I heard my 5-year-old shout from the back seat, ‘Mom, that lady isn’t wearing a seat belt!’

    2) OPINIONS
    On the first day of school, a first-grader handed his teacher a note from his mother. The note read, ‘The opinions expressed by this child are not necessarily those of his parents.’

    3) KETCHUP
    A woman was trying hard to get the ketchup out of the jar. During her struggle the phone rang so she asked her 4-year-old daughter to answer the phone. ‘Mommy can’t come to the phone to talk to you right now. She’s hitting the bottle.’

    4) MORE NUDITY

    A little boy got lost at the YMCA and found himself in the women’s locker room. When he was spotted, the room burst into shrieks, with ladies grabbing towels and running for cover.. The little boy watched in amazement and then asked, ‘What’s the matter, haven’t you ever seen a little boy before?’

    5) POLICE # 1
    While taking a routine vandalism report at an elementary school, I was interrupted by a little girl about 6 years old. Looking up and down at my uniform, she asked, ‘Are you a cop? Yes,’ I answered and continued writing the report. My mother said if I ever needed help I should ask the police. Is that right?’ ‘Yes, that’s right,’ I told her. ‘Well, then,’ she said as she extended her foot toward me, ‘would you please tie my shoe?’

    6) POLICE # 2
    It was the end of the day when I parked my police van in front of the station. As I gathered my equipment, my K-9 partner, Jake, was barking, and I saw a little boy staring in at me. ‘Is that a dog you got back there?’ he asked.
    ‘It sure is,’ I replied.
    Puzzled, the boy looked at me and then towards the back of the van. Finally he said, ‘What’d he do?’

    7) ELDERLY
    While working for an organization that delivers lunches to elderly shut-ins, I used to take my 4-year-old daughter on my afternoon rounds. She was unfailingly intrigued by the various appliances of old age, particularly the canes, walkers & wheelchairs. One day I found her staring at a pair of false teeth soaking in a glass. As I braced myself for the inevitable barrage of questions, she merely turned and whispered, ‘The tooth fairy will never believe this!’

    8) DRESS-UP
    A little girl was watching her parents dress for a party. When she saw her dad donning his tuxedo, she warned, ‘Daddy, you shouldn’t wear that suit.’
    ‘And why not, darling?’
    ‘You know that it always gives you a headache the next morning.’

    9) DEATH
    While walking along the sidewalk in front of his church, our minister heard the intoning of a prayer that nearly made his collar wilt. Apparently, his 5-year-old son and his playmates had found a dead robin. Feeling that proper burial should be performed, they had secured a small box and cotton batting, then dug a hole and made ready for the disposal of the deceased.
    The minister’s son was chosen to say the appropriate prayers and with sonorous dignity intoned his version of what he thought his father always said: ‘Glory be unto the Faaather, and unto the Sonnn, and into the hole he goooes.’ (I want this line used at my funeral!)

    10) SCHOOL
    A little girl had just finished her first week of school. ‘I’m just wasting my time,’ she said to her mother.. ‘I can’t read, I can’t write, and they won’t let me talk!’

    11) BIBLE
    A little boy opened the big family Bible. He was fascinated as he fingered through the old pages. Suddenly, something fell out of the Bible. He picked up the object and looked at it. What he saw was an old leaf that had been pressed in between the pages.
    ‘Mama, look what I found,’ the boy called out.
    ‘What have you got there, dear?’
    With astonishment in the young boy’s voice, he answered, ‘I think it’s Adam’s underwear!’

    • Thanks LOI, they were all great. The ones that made me really laugh, were 9, 10, ans 11.

      If you have anymore, please, by all means, put them up.

      Judy

      • I’ll post a few, don’t want to take over and get the boss mad.

        • I can’t stop laughing at these, they’re so funny. My eyes are watering because I’m laughing so hard. Oh!, Gee thanks for the laughs, I needed that. I just hope non our clients come in and see me laughing, probably will think I’m laughing at them. Wouldn’t be the first time either.

    • Subject: Lipstick In School — Priceless
      >
      >>According to a news report, a certain private school in Washington
      >>recently was faced with a unique problem……..
      >>A number of 12 year-old girls were beginning to use lipstick and would
      >>put it on in the bathroom. That was fine, but after they put on their
      >>lipstick they would press their lips to the mirror leaving dozens of
      >>little lip prints.
      >>Every night, the maintenance man would remove them and the next day,
      >>the girls would put them back.
      >>Finally the principal decided that something had to be done. She called
      >>all the girls to the bathroom and met them there with the maintenance
      >>man. She explained that all the lip prints were causing a major problem
      >>for the custodian who had to clean the mirrors every night.
      >>To demonstrate how difficult it had been to clean the mirrors, she ask
      >>the maintenance man to show the girls how much effort was required.
      >>He took out a long-handled squeegee, dipped it in the toilet, and
      >>cleaned the mirror with it.
      >>Since then, there have been no lip prints on the mirror.
      >>THE MORAL OF THIS STORY…
      >>There are teachers, and then there are Educators.

      Right and Wrong
      ===============

      A Sunday school teacher was teaching her class about the
      difference between right and wrong. “All right children,
      let’s take another example,” she said. “If I were to get
      into a man’s pocket and take his billfold with all his money,
      what would I be?”

      Little Johnny raises his hand, and with a confident smile he
      blurts out,

      “You’d be his wife!

    • These were emailed, I hope Bama Dad can forgive.

      The owner of a golf course in Alabama was confused about paying an
      invoice, so he decided to ask his secretary for some mathematical help.

      He called her into his office and said, “You graduated from The
      University of Alabama and I need some help. If I were to give you
      $20,000, minus 14%, how much would you take off?”

      The secretary thought a moment, then replied, “Everything but my
      earrings.”

      You gotta love those Alabama women.
      ========================================

      A group of Alabama friends went deer hunting and paired off in twos for
      the day. That night, one of the hunters returned alone, staggering under
      the weight of an eight-point buck.

      “Where’s Henry?” the others asked.

      “Henry had a stroke of some kind. He’s a couple of miles back up the
      trail,”
      the successful hunter replied.

      “You left Henry laying out there and carried the deer back?” they
      inquired.

      “A tough call,” nodded the hunter. “But I figured no one

      Is going to steal Henry!”
      ========================================

      ========================================

      NEWS FLASH! – Alabama’s worst air disaster occurred when a small
      two-seater Cessna 150 plane, piloted by two Auburn University students,
      crashed into a cemetery earlier today. Search and Rescue workers have
      recovered 300 bodies so far and expect the number to climb as digging
      continues into the evening.

      The pilot and copilot survived and are helping in the recovery efforts.
      ========================================

      An Alabama State trooper pulled over a pickup on I-85. The trooper
      asked, “Got any ID?”

      The driver replied, “Bout whut?
      ========================================

      A man is at work one day when he notices
      >> >> > > that his co-worker is wearing an earring.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > This man knows his co-worker to be a normally
      >> >> > > conservative fellow, and is curious about his
      >> >> > > sudden change in “fashion sense.”
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > The man walks up to him and says,
      >> >> > > “I didn’t know you were into earrings.”
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > “Don’t make such a big deal, it’s only an
      >> >> > > earring,” he replies sheepishly.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > His friend falls silent for a few minutes,
      >> >> > > but then his curiosity prods him to say,
      >> >> > > “So, how long have you been wearing one?”
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > “Ever since my wife found it in my truck.”

      Cardiologist’s Funeral

      A cardiologist died and was given an elaborate funeral.

      A huge heart covered in flowers stood behind the casket during the service. Following the eulogy, the heart opened, and the casket rolled inside. The heart then closed, sealing the doctor in the beautiful heart forever.

      At that point, one of the mourners burst into laughter. When all eyes stared at him, he said, “I’m sorry, I was just thinking of my own funeral…I’m a gynecologist.” …

      The proctologist fainted.

      Teen-age Sex:

      The mother of a 17-year-old girl was concerned that her daughter was
      having sex. Worried the girl might become pregnant ! and adversely impact
      the family’s status, she consulted the family doctor.
      The doctor told her that teenagers today were very willful and any attempt
      to stop the girl would probably result in rebellion. He then told her to
      arrange for her daughter to be put on birth control and until then, talk to
      her and give her a box of condoms.

      Later that evening, as her daughter was preparing for a date, the woman
      told her about the situation and handed her a box of condoms.

      The girl burst out laughing and reached over to hug her mother saying:
      “Oh Mom! You don’t have to worry about that! I’m dating Susan!”

      Two little old ladies were attending a rather long church service. One leaned over and whispered, “My butt is going to sleep.”

      “I know,” replied her companion, “I heard it snore three times.”

      • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

        THE ARKANSAS BASIC READIN’ SKILLS TEST CIRCA 1986. IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THIS, THEN GOVERNOR CLINTON SEZ U KIN REED.

        M R ducks
        M R not
        O S A R
        C M wangs?
        L I B! M R ducks

        M R snakes
        M R not
        O S A R
        C M B D eyes?
        L I B! M R snakes

        M R mice
        M R not
        O S A R
        C M E D B D feet?
        L I B! M R mice

        M R farmers
        M R not
        O S A R
        C M M T pockets
        L I B! M R farmers

        M R puppies
        M R not
        O S A R
        C M P N
        L I B! M R puppies

      • Again, another good set. Thanks a lot for the laughs, I’m still laughing at the Cardiologist one and the two old ladies in church. I feel like I am at comedy central.

        Judy

    • #9 almost got me in trouble at work!

    • Awesome! I read them off to my wife too.

  21. Great topic, comments and jokes today! I wish I was able to share my thoughts as intelligently as the rest of you.
    I watched most of Arlen Spector’s town hall this morning. I thought it was handled quite well. People asked honest hard questions and he tried to answer them but did fall short most of the time. I wanted to see the Obama “town hall” however, “he who controls the remote” didn’t want to hear it. The little I did see was basically his campaign speech all over again, same talking points, same old rhetoric.
    Anyhow, just my 2 cents. And I hate government!

  22. RESPONSIBILITY?

    Why are we so surprised when our children don’t accept responsibility or consider consequences?

    What are we teaching them?

    * This is a society in which tobacco is to blame, not the smoker;
    * where liquor is at fault, not the drinker; where the gun does the shooting, not the shooter;
    * where the restaurant is at fault for making the coffee too hot, not the consumer who is not responsible enough to know where to place the cup;
    * where the victim is liable for injuries sustained by the burglar while committing a crime;
    * where a criminal is not to blame for his wrongdoing because it is his environment;
    * where there is an excuse for every wrong in life, except lack of individual responsibility.

    How did we get so far off track?

    More importantly, how can we get back on?

    http://www.theblessingsofliberty.com/articles/article4.html

    • Paul Harvey read this on his radio show:

      For the life of me, I can’t understand what could have gone wrong in Littleton, Colo. If only the parents had kept their children away from the guns, we wouldn’t have had such a tragedy. Yeah, it must have been the guns.

      It couldn’t have been because of half our children being raised in broken homes.

      It couldn’t have been because our children get to spend an average of 30 seconds in meaningful conversation with their parents each day. After all, we give our children quality time.

      It couldn’t have been because we treat our children as pets and our pets as children. It couldn’t have been because we allow our children to watch, on average, seven hours of television a day filled with the glorification of sex and violence that isn’t fit for adult consumption.

      It couldn’t have been because we allow our children to enter into virtual worlds in which, to win the game, one must kill as any opponents as possible in the most sadistic way possible.

      It couldn’t have been because we have sterilized and contracepted our families down to sizes so small that the children we do have are so spoiled with material things that they come to equate the receiving of the material with love.

      It couldn’t have been because our children, who historically have been seen as a blessing from God, are now being viewed as either a mistake created when contraception fails or inconveniences that parents try to raise in their spare time.

      It couldn’t have been because our nation is the world leader in developing a culture of death in which 20 million to 30 million babies have been killed by abortion.

      It couldn’t have been because we give two-year prison sentences to teen-agers who kill their newborns.

      It couldn’t have been because our school systems teach the children that they are nothing but glorified apes who have evolutionized out of some primordial soup of mud by teaching evolution as fact and by handing out condoms as if they were candy.

      It couldn’t have been because we teach our children that there are no laws of morality that transcend us, that everything is relative and that actions don’t have consequences.

      What the heck, the president gets away with it.

      Nah, it must have been the guns.

      http://www.theblessingsofliberty.com/articles/article2.html

      • All you have to be able to do is objectify another human being and killing them is not the most heinous of things you could actually do to them. Good thing that kids are not exposed to the objectification of their fellow human beings on a daily basis.

  23. Does anyone here think we are starting to sound like our parents…”Well back in my day…” fill it in with whatever you want.

    That said, I am not happy with the current direction of our United States either. We are borrowing too much, and spending too much, and relegating too much of our liberty and freedom to the elite in Washington that would just as soon spit upon us rabble rousing peasant citizens as look at us. After all Mr. Reid thinks we stink, Mrs. Pelosi thinks we are Nazi’s, and the rest of them believe we are too dumb to understand what they are perpetrating on us.

    I do believe the worm is turning though…the sleeping giant has been disturbed…is he awake yet? Only time can tell.

  24. Found this on the comment section of a Fox News article. I do not know what version of the HC bill this comes from, and have not checked for accuracy…so FYI:

    “•Page 22: A mandate for the Government to audit the books of all employers that self insure. •Pg 30: A Government committee that will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive. •Pg 42: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You will have no choice! •Pg 50: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise. •Pg 58: Government will have real-time access to an individual’s finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued! •Pg 59: Government will have direct access to your bank accounts. •Pg 65: Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions and community organizations like ACORN. •PG 85: The Government will ration your Healthcare! •Pg 95: The Government will use groups, I.e. ACORN & Americorps, to sign up individuals for Government HC plan. •PG 85: Specifics of Benefit Levels for AARP members – your Health care WILL be rationed. •pg 124: No company can sue Government on price fixing and there can be no “judicial review” against Government Monopoly. •Pg 145: An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE. •Pg 126: Employers MUST pay for healthcare for part time employees AND their families Pg 149: ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8 percent tax on all payroll. •pg 150: Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k that don’t provide public option pay 2-6 percent tax on all payroll. •Pg 167 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5 percent of income. •Pg 170: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay). •Pg 195: Officers & employees of the Healthcare Administration (the GOVERNMENT) will have access to ALL Americans’ finances and personal records. •PG 203: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” Yes, it says that. •Pg 239: Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low iThe rest of the Euthanasia/ACORN bill: It spells it out! READ IT! Pg 239: Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected. •Pg 241: Doctors—doesn’t matter what specialty—will all be paid the same. •PG 253: Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc.—literally, the value of humans. •PG 272: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing! •Pg 317-318: Government will mandate that hospitals cannot expand. •Pg 354: Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people! •PG 425: Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations for seniors‚Ķ end-of-life prodding. •Pg 425: Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory! •PG 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources,literally guiding you in how to die. •PG 429: “Advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life! •PG 430: The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.(“Death with Dignity” Advisory board?) •Pg 469: Community-Based Home Medical Services/Non-profit orgs. (ACORN Medical Services here?) •Pg 494-498: Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.”

    • People going to the Town Hall meetings need to have copies of these pages from the bill(s), and get right in the Reps faces with it. Not saying, “I heard” or “Is it true?” but have the hard copy.

      • I’ll keep saying this until I turn blue. GOVERNMENT DOES NOT BELONG IN THE HEALTH CARE BUSINESS. When do they plan on getting their medical degree is what I would like to know? This really pisses me off to no end here, and I will continue to be pissed about it.

        What gives the government the freaking right to dictate what doctors and hospitals do with their patients? With health care like this being thrown at us and the medical profession, I see major lawsuits coming. Denying medication to seniors who need it, denying medications to cancer patients, denying possible surgeries to those who might need it, like a heart or lung, or kidney’s.

        Oh! it’s okay for them to have the best health care, but F$%^& the rest of us. That’s really caring for the people here now, isn’t it?

        Oh, I just heard him say, that he doesn’t want to be in charge of health care, that the news media and talk shows are scaring the people into thinking otherwise. Excuse me Mr. Obama,, but just what do you think your health plan is doing to people. Making them dance in the street?

        Sorry people for the rant here, but I am very angry here, and with this dumb-a$$ plan of his, I guess my mother won’t be able to continue her medication for that much longer. Hell, she’ll be 87 next week, so I guess it doesn’t matter if she gets it or not according to this congress and bubbleheadded president. According to them I guess she lived long enough, so the hell with her then, right. Time for this administration to get the boot.

        Judy

      • Congressman Eugene Green, Democrat from Texas, telling the world that if you’re not from his District, you’re not welcome at his future town hall meetings — oh, and how he’ll enforce his new rule.

        Gene Green has voted against laws requiring photo identification to vote.

        http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/08/11/cant-make-it-dem-rep-who-opposes-photo-id-vote-requiring-photo-id-town-h

        • And these people expect to get elected again. Good Lord, I hope not.
          My wonderful senator Dirt Bag Reid, is losing his support big time here in Nevada, and I heard that there is somebody running against him, but I can’t remember what the heck his name is.

        • Think of all this as your representatives taking a public IQ test for your perusal.

  25. Now the WH wants to repeal the part of the privacy act that will allow them to place cookies in your browser, thereby tracking where you go on the internet! I think it’s time to get rid of my google toolbar.

    • The WH and government reps are finding the internet a threat. This is making them show their “true” colors, to control and regulate us into a socialistic country.

      It will backfire, like much they are doing. In their desperation to squelch the dissent, they are having to reveal there interpretation of “hope and CHANGE”, and it is not going over well. Goodbye Obama!

      • Just a matter of time before we lose everything. Will have to go back to carrier piegion or smoke signals.

  26. Loved today’s article and comments (the jokes were great, and much needed).

    I am a racist by choice, I simply hate everybody, until they give me a reason not too. Kinda like earning respect for who you are. I get teased all the time at work about hating blacks, hispanics, and every other group of people. It does get a good laugh from my coworkers.

    However I will add something to this. I do believe that race relations are getting worse, and have noticed some suttle changes. Over the last few months, the attitudes have calmed amongst the black population here. The dirty looks, stare downs and cocky attitudes are far rewer than they were last year. Yes, they keep shooting each other daily, but that’s between them.

    I was taught to always be aware of your surroundings, and changes that you see may mean something. Wonder what this may mean?

    On a lighter note: Obama visited Little Johnny’s school yesterday, and the lesson was vocabulary. Obama was asked to help, so he asked the class what a “tragedy” was!

    First little boy: If a bus full of kids crashed and died, it would be a tragedy.

    Obama: No, that would be a great loss.

    Little girl: If a train crashed and killed all aboard, that would be a tragedy.

    Obama: No, that would be an accident.

    Little Johnny raised his hand and said: If you were in Air Force One, and a Friendly fired missle hit the plane, blew it up killing you and the First Lady, that would be a tragedy.

    Obama: Well, why would that be a tragedy?

    Little Johnny: Because Mr. President it has to be a tragedy. I sure as hell won’t be great loss, and I know it won’t be a f%$^ing accident!

    PEACE!

    G!

    • G!

      I agree race relations are getting worse, but I feel most of that is because of reverse racism. Prof. Gates might be a prime example. Did Obama’s former church not exclude white members?

      Johnny made me laugh, but he sure needs his mouth washed out.

    • “I do believe that race relations are getting worse, and have noticed some suttle changes. Over the last few months, the attitudes have calmed amongst the black population here. The dirty looks, stare downs and cocky attitudes are far rewer than they were last year. Yes, they keep shooting each other daily, but that’s between them.”

      G-Man,

      You lost me there, how does that indicate worse race relations? I would think “worse” would be more dirty looks, etc.?

      • Dee, I’m guessing here, but it seems that the hard looks and stare downs are reversing course. Their intimdation tactics, which I call them, aren’t working anymore, as more caucasions are simply not tolerating it anymore, and a speaking up and challenging them.

        Even my black friends have noticed this change, and have indicated some concern. That’s when I really started looking around harder, and they were right.

        I don’t think this is about Obama, but about the entightlement attitude that is quickly becoming what many feel, are the enemy of the people. The problem with that I have with this, is that many blacks are undeserving of this, as they work hard and support their families.

        I guess I should have been more detailed, for that I apologize.

        G!

    • I had noticed 6 months ago that certain people suddenly had real cocky attitudes because we had elected their Messiah. Kind of like, when Halle Berry got an Ocar, a lot of people were saying “WE won”.

      Now that he’s shown his true colors (pun unintentional) they are distancing themselves from him and their attitudes are more realistic.

      I’m not a racist, I love the Human Race. My point is that a lot of people want to keep racism alive.

  27. I will never be comfortable with the idea of a President. Its “race” or gender matters not to me. The position is the problem, not the pinhead occupying the position. Only I can represent myself adequately. Everyone a Tsar!

    • Sad part Kent, is very few can represent themselves, or even choose to as an option. Only when they are in deep kimshee do they stand up for themselves, and by then it’s too late. Sound familiar?

      G!

  28. These are the things I don’t like about Obama, besides his policies, is his arrogance, his self righteous attitude towards people, that smug look on his face all the time, thinking we’re just a bunch of dumb people who don’t know any better, and that we’re just going to lay down and take it.

    I am not a racist person, and I don’t give a hoot what color you are, or what ethnic background you are. I judge people for who they are, and how they treat others. I was always taught to treat others the way you want to be treated. I try to be civil towards people, but if they want an argument, well then by golly, I’ll give it to them, depending on the subject of course.

    I am so sick of the race card being pulled because if things don’t go their way, then it comes out. Why do people feel it necessary to bring it out all the time? What purpose does it serve? I do not look down on a person because of their race, it doesn’t suit me, and it doesn’t do any good.

    When my husbands family came here from Italy, and landed in New York, they were looked down on. My mother’s parents came from Poland, and they were looked down on. People seem to forget, we were looked down on by the Native Americans for what we did to them. I don’t think I will live long enough to ever see an end to racism, but it sure would be nice to see it.

  29. I just received this in my emil box, and thought I’d pass it along for those who might be interested.

    Judy

    It has started, someone is trying to walk on are second amendment. I have attached the Bill that would do this and a link for more answers. Forward it on.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp

    • Hey Judy,

      If you read at the bottom of the article, this sounds like old news that has little chance of passing.

      I tried to cut and paste that part, but it won’t work for some reason 🙂

      • Hi Dee
        ‘Before I answer, I left you a note towards the top about your mom, please go read it okay, I didn’t know until I was browsing earlier. I am very sorry Dee.

        Now, about that article, it was emailed to me by one of my son’s Army buddies, guess he thought I’d be interested in it, and I just thought I would pass it along. Yes, I know, I couldn’t cut and paste it either. I wonder why.

        • Thanks, Judy.

          I did find your message above thank you.

          Snopes must have disabled copying somehow. While they rated it “true” there was more info at the bottom that made me feel “a little” better.

          It gets old babysitting Washington, we have to watch every move they make. It’s a sad day when I worry more about what they are trying to pull, than the everyday life things I need to concentrate on.

          • Dee

            I’m glad you found my message, and I know this an old cliche, but time will heal and help you.

            As for Washington, I’m just so fed up with them, I don’t believe a thing they say anymore, like I believed anything they said before.

            It just amazes me now that Obama is saying that you don’t have to change your health care provider, you can keep the one you have. Then on top of that, I heard him say on the news that he doesn’t want to take over the medical profession like everybody is accusing him of. He goes on to say, that should left up to your doctor and you. First he says one thing, then he changes his hat, and says something else.

            I feel if our parents and grandparents made it through the depression, then we can get through this awful mess. I hope.

    • Hi Judy!

      This bill never made it out of committee to be voted on, and won’t. This came out early this year, and the E-mails to the elected went through the roof. I believe this was before the stimulus bill.

      It was a sad reason that this bill was even brought up. Look up HR 45.

      G!

      • Hey there G

        Oh, I know that, like I said earlier, I just passed it along for those who maybe might not have seen it. A friend of Christopher’s who is in the Army with him thought I’d would be interested in that too.. But I told him, we’ve already seen it. He has a tendency to send me things thinking maybe I haven’t seen it. He’s good a good heart and thought he was doing me a favor. In a sense, he’s kind of our adopted son, that’s how long we’ve known him.

        Judy

  30. I am quite the fed up citizen when people start shouting that we are a racist nation.If that’s really the case then why was a man of color elected to our nations highest political office?

    I do not know if you guys are familliar with Herman Cain but he is a black man that I would love to have elected President to lead our country.A true American leader.

    http://www.hermancain.com/default.asp

    http://www.hermancain.com/thebestof.asp?section=vid&id=4

  31. When I post now it always tells me that my comment is awaiting moderation.
    This a new thing with the blog?

    • Well this one did not say that…so I suppose it’s because I posted links in my #31 posting.

      • TC,

        Yes that is the reason. Any time that a comment has 2 or more links in it, WordPress automatically puts them into moderation. It is part of the spam protection as the spam comments usually have a bunch of links in them. As soon as I see them in moderation I approve them, but sometimes it is a while between chances to log on and look.

  32. v. Holland says:

    I haven’t had the time today to read or write very much but I did read the article and I thought these quotes were appropriate:

    One of the misfortunes of our time is that in getting rid of false shame, we have killed off so much real shame as well.
    – Louis Kronenberger

    Americans are like a rich father who wishes he knew how to give his son the hardships that made him rich.
    – Robert Frost

    We are each burdened with prejudice; against the poor or the rich, the smart or the slow, the gaunt or the obese. It is natural to develop prejudices. It is noble to rise above them. ~Author Unknown

    Prejudices subsist in people’s imagination long after they have been destroyed by their experience. ~Ernest Dimnet

    “In order to get from what was to what will be, you must go through what is.” Anonymous

    By all means marry. If you get a good wife you will become happy, and if you get a bad one you will become a philosopher.(I just couldn’t resist this last one 🙂 He He )
    –Socrates (470-399 B.C.)

    Good Night

  33. I see where Geitner needs more money:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124970470294516541.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

    How do these people sleep at night?

  34. Concerned in Michigan says:

    In talking about bullies and honor USW said, “They place no value on human life.”

    So, what causes someone to place value on a human life?

    When our country was largely based on Judeo-Christian values, “do not kill” meant just that. But if we are now “beyond religion,” is valuing human life only for our self-preservation? (“I won’t kill you if you don’t kill me.”)

    (I happen to agree with the Judeo-Christian values and so I’m trying to figure out where the secular humanists and others are coming from. Any help on this one?)

    • The Bible actually says “Do not murder”, which is slightly different than “do not kill”. That isn’t a strictly Judeo-Christian value, either. It predates either religion. There are many atheists, including me, who actually seem to take that “commandment” more seriously than do many who claim to be “Christians”.

      • Concerned in Michigan says:

        If I could press you a bit, why do YOU take that “commandment” seriously? From my perspective, it is at least partly about honoring and obeying God. But if you do not believe in God then why bother to keep from murdering?

    • Concerned,

      I can only answer for myself after reading Kent’s response, which I agree with. It is not judeo-christian values that keep me from killing people. It is a respect for life. I know what I mean to those around me and what they mean to me. I do not have the right to deprive people the right to enjoy their loved ones. I do not have the right to intrude on the liberty of others or their pursuit of happiness.

      It isn’t a god that makes people do the right thing in many cases. There are so many who don’t believe in your version of god, or even in any god at all. It is their values and morals that guide them. My principles, values, and morals that make the core of who I am do not change with religion or anything else. They are my core.

      • Alert in Michigan says:

        USW,

        I know that many, many people have very strong value/ethics systems, whether based on J-C system or not. I respect that fully. But I still ask what (if?) we as a society can do to bring people without such a system to a point they then believe in respecting each other.

        Alert (formerly “Concerned”) in MI

  35. What about an eye for an eye then?

    • I’d say just about any gang of barbarians could come up with that one. LOL

      • Now come on, I’m serious here. I believe in it. So does that make me a barbarian?

        • Black Flag says:

          Eye for an Eye is merely revenge.

          When plotting revenge, dig two graves.

          And Kent is right, the Natural Law of Mutuality of Action does hold that what one does gives everyone the right to do to them.

          However, Civilization requires intellect – not mere action/response auto-bots.

          • I see your point, and I don’t ever plan on doing something like that, but that’s just how I feel.

            I can’t explain why I feel that way, but I just do.

            • Black Flag says:

              Because its Natural – kids in a playground know it, too – no training required.

              When I play poker and face a moron who gets a little lucky, I feel that I want to pummel him for being stupid and getting rewarded for it. This is known as “Going on Tilt” (referencing pinball machines that if you rattle too much, you lose your turn).

              A key component of a top players is recovering from Tilt before the next hand is played.

              Thus, this requires training to reversing the order CONSCIOUSLY – that is, think before acting.

              That takes brain development (so don’t hope children can do this) and training (’cause a quite a few adults also haven’t figured it out yet)

              • You wouldn’t want to take revenge on somebody that would your family harm? God forbid that happening, was just using that hypothetically BF, hope you know that.

              • I meant do your family harm, sorry

              • Black Flag says:

                No.

                But I will respond in more detail in just a bit….

              • BF, I will have to read your answer in the morning. I have a couple things I need to do, and it can’t wait. I do appreciate you answering though.

                Have a good night, and I will catch up with you tomorrow, okay.

                Take care

                Judy

  36. Black Flag says:

    Concerned in Michigan

    If I could press you a bit, why do YOU take that “commandment” seriously? From my perspective, it is at least partly about honoring and obeying God. But if you do not believe in God then why bother to keep from murdering?

    Law of Mutuality.

    If I do not respect the lives of others, they will not respect my life.

    • Concerned in Michigan says:

      But doesn’t that infer that everyone operates under that law?

      • Black Flag says:

        Whether you know you are or not, you are. That’s why its a Natural law.

        If someone does not respect life, other people will feel the right to do unto him, too.

        This is where capital punishment comes in as a ‘modern’ expression of this Natural Law.

        • Concerned in Michigan says:

          Would you please help me understand your definition of “natural law”? Here are some I found when I Googled it:

          rule or body of rules of conduct inherent in human nature and essential to or binding upon human society
          wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

          Natural law or the law of nature (lex naturalis) is a theory that posits the existence of a law whose content is set by nature and that therefore has validity everywhere. …
          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law

          general principles of law applicable to all societies; became a fundamental concept of the Roman empire’s legal system; related to Stoic ethical theory.
          https://www.mountdesales.net/data/files/news/ClassroomLinks/Foundations_Unit__Key_Terms.doc

          A theory that has been tested many thousands of times and found always to be true, eg, the law of gravity.
          http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/pae/glossaryn.html

          set of principles which govern human interactions, which are built into the structure of the universe, as opposed to being imposed by human beings.
          http://www.historycentral.com/Civics/N.html

          a statement that expresses generally observed behavior
          http://www.learnchem.net/glossary/n.shtml

          Several of these have very different definitions.

          I know I come at this from my worldview, and I operate under this “natural law.” Again, I’m just trying to understand other viewpoints.

          If “Now they simply pull a gun and shoot you. They place no value on human life. They will kill you for a pair of sneakers or a fur lined coat.” is true, how do we instill in such persons a value for human life? If the Law of Mutuality is about respecting life and these “thugs” do not, is it possible to somehow create that respect within them?

          • You can’t force someone else to respect human life, but you can make it in their best interest to not attack you by letting them understand that you value your life (or the lives of other innocents) enough to defend it with force. Self preservation can be very motivating.

            • Concerned in Michigan says:

              I agree with your analysis. Self preservation is very motivating. And if someone believes they have nothing to live for, what motive do they have to avoid killing/murder?

              • Probably none. That is when it is up to you to follow through and stop their predations with whatever amount of force is necessary; maybe by killing them.

          • Black Flag says:

            Concerned

            Reply moved to “Tues. Open Mic”

        • You could just as easily look at that principle (You shall not murder) and interpret it as (You shall not kill) from a scientific viewpoint BF.Hence some viewpoints relating that commandment to “natural law”.

          Newton’s third law: law of reciprocal actions

          For a force there is always an equal and opposite reaction: or the forces of two bodies on each other are always equal and are directed in opposite directions.

          Or simply put: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

          🙂

          While the commandment does not say it is wrong to kill; it does in fact say to not committ murder.I am willing to kill to protect my family and keep them from harm.I do not believe in the needless taking of life for no justifiable moral reason.

          My beliefs that were TAUGHT to me; keep me from committing murder.

          Point is: whether you are willing to believe it or not our societies belief in not committing murder does stem from judeo/christian beliefs that were TAUGHT throughout history.

          • The belief in not committing murder pre-dates judeo-christian beliefs and is present in any number of other different religions and philosophies.

            Unless you believe that God literally created Adam and Eve as the first humans and thus NO human activity pre-dates judeo-christian beliefs, in which case we’ll just have to disagree.

            • Ahhh but my dear DKII…what people are responsible for the worldwide impact of teaching these beliefs?

              Without a doubt the belief in not commitiing murder predates judeo/christian beliefs.I would never dispute that fact.

              I just wanted to point out the impact the tribes of Judea have had on our worlds societies morals (wow I used 3 plurals in a row!) as a whole throughout recorded history.

          • Black Flag says:

            TexasChem

            See “Tues Open Mic” for replies.

  37. concerned says:

    Very well spoken USW, and I couldn’t agree more. There is no substitute for personal responsbility. It drives our attitudes, morals, and basic values.

    We have been witnessing a steady decline as it is more important to get what we don’t deserve at the expense of anyone who stands in the way. It is quite sad. Bankruptcy, welfare, and racial accusations have become crutches to make excuses for perceived inequality rather than the real cause, laziness.

    Washington is out of touch with the common people as laziness extends into our politics. It is commonplace to support those who could improve our self-deserved station, placing the elite into positions of misplaced power, and ignoring the infringement upon our liberty.

    The real work must begin to restore our basic liberties. This will be a monumental task as we have put the foxes in charge of the hen house. The elite will use every weapon in range to strike back and preserve their positions of tyranny.

    • Alert in Michigan says:

      [Sorry “Concerned”; I didn’t realize you were here, so I changed my name to “Alert”]

      “There is no substitute for personal responsbility. It drives our attitudes, morals, and basic values.”

      I wholeheartedly agree. And I agree with earlier comments about these things (including “thou shall not kill”) being things that are taught, whether in a religious system or not. But how do you infuse personal responsibility into a person … and into a society/culture?

      Our government has for years avoided the hard choices of what to do about underfunded entitlements (Soc. Sec., Medicaid, etc.) and keeps passing this upcoming disaster onto the next generation of “leaders”. [Yes, I know these should never have been passed, but they are here and generations of people are counting on their Social Security.] As a society we have more and more people living off other people, getting “what we don’t deserve at the expense of anyone who stands in the way.” Workers complain when they lose dental benefits or are asked to work more than 32 hours or …whatever. Again, how do we re-learn personal responsibility and self sufficiency?

      USW, I echo the comments “Concerned” made.

      • “Yes, I know these should never have been passed, but they are here and generations of people are counting on their Social Security”
        Sometimes life brings dissapointment and pain when you make bad choices. Living off of others is a bad choice, and while it would be painful, ending all the “entitlements” must be done. The longer it is allowed to go on, the more it will hurt to end it.

        • v. Holland says:

          “Living off of others is a bad choice” I understand your meaning and I see the need to end these programs but I have a problem with the living off of others statement-Some people have been paying into S.S. for years so I don’t consider them living off of others just getting their money back. Seems like they are owed this money by the government and that there should be other crap that should be cut out of the budget to cover the owed money.It wouldn’t be fair but perhaps they should just stop deducting the money now except from people over a certain age, who would still get S.S. unless they chose to opt. out and people under that age would just have to eat the loss.

          • But the money they paid is gone- given to the earlier recipients. There is not an account in their name at some government bank.

            You shouldn’t cooperate with a mugger today because of his promise to cut you in on his take tomorrow. His take tomorrow depends on him continuing to mug new victims. At some point the Ponzi scheme (which is all “Social Security” is) comes crashing down. The longer it goes on, the more people it hurts, and the worse it hurts them. Reality can be cruel, but it doesn’t alter the fact that it IS reality.

            • v. Holland says:

              You’re probably right Kent but it just seems like there is so much waste in our government, that somehow we could keep our promises to some of the older people who depend on S.S. -like taking away benefits from our representatives, which is suggested on the next page.

        • Alert in Michigan says:

          I guess I was referring to people like my parents who are 65, still both working FT, and have paid into the system for years. I agree with V. Holland that, at least for the older generations, it seems we as a society owe them their money back. I’d be fine not getting any SS when I’m that age, but I don’t want to pay into it any more, either. I agree we have to end the entitlements and it will be painful, but to not pay someone back for what they have put into the system is theft.

          • Why do we owe them anything?

            They are the one’s who helped create the current mess.

            Just give them their money back.

            I know this sounds harsh but sometimes the truth hurts.

  38. If we want to save America then we need to again read what the founding fathers wrote about how America should be. “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.” Thomas Jefferson

    Let’s get back to basics, less government. There is a new, underground book out (A Time To Stand – http://www.booksbyoliver.com) about a small town mayor who realizes that there is no longer any local government due to congressional mandates and a government of tyranny. The town revolts against the federal government and starts the 2nd American revolution.

    Of course Americans are angry at the Town Hall meetings. They have been lied to by congress and now the president for decades. They are now taking a “Stand”.

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