Guest Commentary…

guest-commentaryA dejected night for me…. Brad Penny continued to show why he is not prepared to pitch in the American League. As a result, my Red Sox got thrashed by the New York Yankees. The upside: we scored 11 runs, not bad. The downside: They scored 20. Baseball is so frustrating to watch sometimes. Don’t get me wrong, I have already seen two more World Series Titles in Boston than I thought I would see in my lifetime. My grandfather lived his whole life without ever seeing one. But I digress, it is Guest Commentary Night! I know that you are all chomping at the bit for the second part of BlackFlag’s guest commentary. But it isn’t ready yet. Excellence takes time. Perhaps that means I need to spend a little more time writing my articles! At any rate, tonight’s guest commentary comes from a new reader to the site…

Glock21 found us through the Fox News Forum on one of the links I posted there a while ago. He enjoys reading the site and I imagine he will get in on the conversations when he feels the time is right. He sent me this guest commentary piece and I saw right away that he has potential as a writer. As an added bonus, his guest commentary topic falls right in line with the discussions that we have been having this week. Yesterday I talked about middle of the road Independents and their frustration with both of the two major parties in Washington DC. It seems to me that Glock21 shares many of the same sentiments and frustrations with the elitists that claim to be our “Representatives.”

The State of the USA
by Glock21

Congress Money PuppetThose who are behind a bigger and more intrusive federal government either must not be students of history or they have chosen to ignore it altogether. Didn’t we fight a war for independence largely because King George III made every attempt to exercise tyrannical control through extreme taxation and a lust for power? One of the biggest issues back then was taxation with no representation. The issue now is taxation with representation by the corrupt and incompetent. Our senators, congressmen, and presidents have in a sense orchestrated their own rise to royalty, and they have quietly done so with our approval.

Our federal government has transcended idealism; it’s rampant overspending effectively blurring delineations between the two major parties. Both sides of our entrenched two-party system have grossly mishandled our money and our taxes, so much so that they are no longer capable of their deception that there are any definable differences between them. Their charade of leadership and service is now exposed for what it is – an unquenched thirst for power, control, and political longevity. And political power and longevity are the abusive parents of higher taxes.

Further evidence of the government’s power grab extends far beyond tax issues, and could not be clearer. For example:

Pink Slip CongressAre we to assume that anything resembling term limitation legislation will ever be enacted by the very individuals it most negatively impacts? Or that our federal legislators will ever subject themselves to the same Social Security program with which we as citizens are forced to comply? Where else is a position available with a full pension after 2, 4, or 6 years on the job? How about Secret Service protection? Taxpayer-funded private planes? All these questions are political Kryptonite, so of course they remain unanswered. Mere mention of these topics sends our elected Supermen up, up and away to their respective Fortresses of Solitude faster than a speeding bullet.

To legislatively address these issues with any discernible effect would display the honor and courage we so sorely lack. Who among our Men of Steel in Washington would sacrifice their lengthy terms in office and cushy lifestyles for the quiet dignity and nobility of doing the right thing for their country? Anybody? Was that the sound of a pin dropping? As the brazen audacity and broken promises of the present administration begin to eclipse the campaign assurances that propelled them to power, more and more Americans are recognizing the stark contrasts. As their numbers grow, so grows their desire for change we can believe in – now that we can’t believe the change we got.

We have reached a point in our history where simple elections do little to combat the burden of big government. There is indeed a monster in the closet, one whose tentacles simultaneously probe our pockets for spare change while crumpling the Constitution.

The ruling elite in Washington desire equality for all, but they seek it at the expense of individual success. They want to guarantee happiness while disregarding the pursuit of it. They strive for an inherently un-American mediocrity. Unless reversed, this trend will erode and displace the American way of life the rest of the world has envied for so long.

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Comments

  1. Good Morning! Good read Glock21. Your comments are easy to agree with, as we all know the government has become a disaster, too bad it’s not just a movie.

    My first thought was the word “revolution”. Not sure if thats the best idea, but it is an idea non the less. My second thought was a National Referendum that would basically fire every elected idiot in D.C., rewriting the rules, and starting over. My third thought, is just fire them and move on (I like this one best). I’m sure there will be more ideas today, and I will try to check in during my travels today.

    Have a great day!

    G!

    • G-Man:

      We are in detailed agreement! I truly admire someone who will take the time to compliment another on their hard efforts — as well all know only too well — writing is not the easiest medium to communicate; however, I like you give kudos to Glock21!

      Bbbrrraavvvooo Glock21! Brraavvoo! Bravo, bravo! [crowd whistling, cheering]

      I believe that the real chance to ‘AXE’ these lesser than human viruses’ is through the National Referendum. Sure it may require a bit more, yet, my gut tells me that from young to seasoned and every demographic therein would welcome the opportunity to regain control of our nation. Cheers!

      jps

  2. Richmond Spitfire says:

    Hi all and a special Welcome to Glock21!

    Nice article! I am looking forward to your commenting in the future…I think that you’ll have a lot to add.

    On a side note, please check this out…Funny, but scary at the same time!

    http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf

    Best Regards to all,
    RS

  3. Excellent article Glock21! Pretty much echos how I feel about the government.

    Oh an RS, that link was too funny!

    Happy Saturday all!

  4. I hate to hijack a guest piece but I finally found and interview with someone in the medical field that talks about the cost of medical care. He addresses cost, quality and the need to change the debate. The references to free market principles and how they correct problems and how govt involvement distorts the whole thing.

    Everyone should listen to this. Takes about 15 mins.

    http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=011008&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=8478455&referralPlaylistId=playlist

    Have a great weekend
    JAC

    • Excellent video. Dr. Toussaint seems nonpartisan, nonideological, and just wants to do what works. He has applied standard total quality management techniques to hospital and clinic operations with good success. He has reduced costs and improved quality, which are normal TQM outcomes. TQM is a proven technique that always works when done properly in an environment with complex repetitive processes.

      He also has interesting observations about health care reform.

      • Hey JayD:

        You know this fella?

        And yes TQM does work in the hands of people who are motivated and have the knowledge to adapt it to their situation.

        Hope all is well today.
        JAC

        • No, I don’t know him, but the video was pretty revealing about his character. He seemed to me to be one of the good guys, honest, straightforward, no nonsense.

          I am well, thank you. I’ve been occupied with grandchildren the past few weeks, so haven’t had much time for anything else.

    • Hey JAC

      Watched the video, and he makes perfect sense. But, there lies the problem. If it makes sense, then according to government, don’t do it.

      BTW, hope all is well with you and yours.

      Take Care

      Judy

    • JAC, Good find. My “spousal unit leader” had ThedaClark as an account for years, however, I believe he turned it over to a co-worker. I’ll ask him if he knows this Dr. and has any additional info.

      Funny how this successful program is in the state and yet both of our Senators and most of the Reps are all pushing for the public option.

  5. Big government started with the end of “The War of Northern Aggression” in 1865 when the Federal government started pushing for more centralized power.

    I’ve been wondering lately if the civil war had never happen (with slavery illegal from the beginning) if the federal government would have been able to expand its powers like it has. The founders should have made slavery illegal from the beginning (most wanted to), but they needed the support of the southern states in the war of independence.

    Good article too!

  6. Morning All

    A big welcome to Glock21, good article, and I couldn’t agree with you more.

    RS.

    That was funny, but for some reason, it sounded familiar. I know I heard that somewhere before, but for the life of me I can’t remember where.

    Hope all will have a good weekend.

    Judy

  7. Glock, very good posting and of course the big question is, now what? We’ve seen through this recess Washington’s arrogance for being all everything and their distaste for the American people.

  8. Good article. Glock21, you seem to favor term limits for national offices. Is that the case? I have argued strongly in favor of term limits on this site and have been opposed just as strongly by others. I would be interested in your views.

  9. Ahhhhh…..anyone with the handle of glock..gets my attention. Welcome to the site and well said.

  10. Thanks for your kind words on my piece on “Standup”. Personally, I think if public office was handled more like jury duty instead of placing these politicians on the pedestals we’ve built for them, America would be a better place. Of course the jury system itself is also inherently flawed, but that’s a debate for another day. The point is, Washington RUBS OFF, and the longer an elected official remains, the more rubbed he or she becomes. The arguments for committee continuity and that the people vote for the candidate they want are simplistic and rooted in idealism. It’s just not that complicated. I’ve yet to hear an effective case against term limitation. Countless civilian organizations and clubs change leadership every year with only their last meeting’s minutes to guide them. Corporations hire and fire CEO’s every day. Why?…To make themselves BETTER. I’m unconvinced reasonable, periodic clean-sweeps in government would be the disaster the elite would have us believe.

    • Good Morning Glock21 . . .

      Read your guest post.

      We seem to be somewhat of a like mind – which most of us who hang out here are.

      I invite you to look up my blog and check out my five part series on how to fix this mess. You will have to go to March 2009 archives in order to read it.

      I have been on vacation for about three weeks and just got back yesterday so I haven’t been reading enough yet to know how long you have been on USW’s site, but I say welcome to you and your ideas . . . However, look out for Black Flag – he loves to write books! 😉

      • Welcome back! How was the anniversary trip for you and your bride?

        • Awesome!!!

          I will be posting some pics on my site later this week.

          We went to Carlsbad Caverns in NM, Then to the painted desert and petrified forest in AZ.

          Both are National Parks.

          We had never been to either place before.

    • Black Flag says:

      Glock21

      Of course the jury system itself is also inherently flawed, but that’s a debate for another day.

      Or today! Why do you think it is flawed?

      The point is, Washington RUBS OFF, and the longer an elected official remains, the more rubbed he or she becomes. The arguments for committee continuity and that the people vote for the candidate they want are simplistic and rooted in idealism. It’s just not that complicated. I’ve yet to hear an effective case against term limitation.

      Because it directly contradicts the premise of freedom to choose one’s representative.

      Either you agree the people have a right to chose – or you don’t.

      With term limits, you are claiming the latter – that is, they want “him” and you say “Nope.”

      You cannot have both. Either they can chose or they cannot.

      Countless civilian organizations and clubs change leadership every year with only their last meeting’s minutes to guide them.

      How voluntary associations of people organize themselves has no bearing on how forces of coercion and violence organize themselves.

      Corporations hire and fire CEO’s every day. Why?…To make themselves BETTER.

      They are not ‘fired’ without cause. If they perform, they stay for a lifetime.

      The problem is, within federal politics, there is no means, way, or possibility of selecting representation – it is vetted ballot of identical twins that are given to you.

      There is no method to ‘change’ the system.

      • Black Flag,
        I appreciate your comments. Point-by-point:
        First, the jury system is flawed by the nature of juror selection, which is far from tamper-proof and can often skew trial outcomes. Follow the money: Consider the drug lord millionaire who can afford background checks and obtain very private, personal information on prospective jurors. Is this not an unfair advantage, given that the defense will be much more able to determine how someone will vote than the fund-lacking prosecutor who must proceed without such information?
        Second – Did you SEE OJ’s first trial?
        *Term limits do not contradict one’s freedom to choose their representatives. The politicians themselves are the contradictions to freedom, and to your point, it is they who render freedom a mere premise by their selfish power quests and lobbyist-love only multiple terms can sustain. Your thinking suggests you would have no problem with Obama’s third or fourth term…either the people can choose or they cannot…you can’t have both, correct?
        * I used CEO’s and civilian clubs as examples. Whether you agree it has bearing or not, the term “organization” doesn’t change definition when applied to another venue. After all, could it not be said that many taking part in the “forces of coercion and violence” do so voluntarily?
        * If CEO’s are not not fired without cause and stay for a lifetime if they perform, it astounds me that politicians get to stay for a lifetime when they don’t.
        * We agree on the twins analogy. But while you’re correct that there is no method of changing the system, I believe it can be changed. And term limits are a good start.
        G21

  11. Black Flag says:

    Yes I do!

    I’ll respond to Glock in a bit, I just want to keep this topic with Chris ‘current’

    Chris Devine

    So if a physician has a choice to treat two patients, one who has plenty of money but little chance of survival while the other has no money but a good chance of surviving (only if treated), the physician should choose to treat the patient who can pay?

    I believe you have real difficulty in understanding freedom.

    It is up to the physician. The physician is free to decide since it is his treatment. He can decide for one or the other (or neither) based whatever reason he wants.

    He does not need to get an ‘ok’ from me or you.

    • Hi BF

      You are right in stating that the physician is free to decide on which patient to choose. Just because someone has the money to pay for treatment, but still has little chance for survival, I would hope that the physician would choose the one who will survive whether he can afford to pay or not. After all, they did take an oath to treat you, money or not, did they not.

      That’s my opinion anyway.

    • I am so pleased with myself that I gave BF’s answer in my head before I read it from him. He would give me a gold star for the day.

    • I would think it’d be more (or at least as much) the choice of the donor or the person holding their power of attorney. Perhaps the donor chooses the doctor, who in turn chooses the recipient?

    • Chris Devine says:

      So if the physician chooses to treat the patient with a better chance of survival, but he is told not to because the patient is uninsured, how should the physician respond?

      I’ll just cut to the chase and save everybody some time: do you think that patients who can’t afford treatment should be denied treatment solely on those grounds? How would you feel about a child being denied treatment? If a physician has specified a course of treatment should he be prohibited from prescribing it because the patient can’t afford it? How can a society that can collectively afford to treat everybody deny some people treatment because they can’t afford it individually?

      The supposed morality of choice that you claim free-market capitalism provides is nothing but a license to exploit. It’s got to be the biggest cop-out of all time. You claim moral superiority based upon some notion of free-choice, all the while people suffer as a direct result of this philosophy you espouse. Poverty isn’t inevitable and advocating an economic system that makes it so is about as despicable as anything I can think of.

      I’m sure you’ll go off on some rant about how all taxes are theft and as long as you don’t resort to physical violence then all is copacetic. But for me any system that allows people to abuse and exploit others without even raising a hand in anger is much worse than any black-eye or broken bone. Pretending violence only takes the form of direct physical harm is a sham. Letting someone starve due to your own greed is pathetic.

      Before you cry foul and say I’m unduly appealing to emotion please evaluate why you think emotion should be left out. It is precisely the lack of empathy by free-market advocates that lets them justify the unnecessary suffering in this world. Perhaps if you let a little emotion in you might realize how sad the world would be if you had your way. Just because you can’t eliminate all sadness and suffering doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do your best to reduce it as much as possible. Passing the buck and refusing to act because of some bullsh*t ideas about your self-serving version of freedom is unconscionable.

  12. Black Flag says:

    Edward said
    August 22, 2009 at 10:31 am

    Big government started with the end of “The War of Northern Aggression” in 1865 when the Federal government started pushing for more centralized power.

    I’ve been wondering lately if the civil war had never happen

    What has happened now would occur no matter what.

    The root core of government is flawed.

    Maybe it may have taken longer, or who know, may have happened sooner.

    However, all government expands its power and violence – it never retracts except by violent overthrow – to only start all over again – because its core premise – the use of initiation of violence on non-violent people – remains unchanged.

  13. Black Flag says:

    Edward said
    August 22, 2009 at 10:31 am

    Big government started with the end of “The War of Northern Aggression” in 1865 when the Federal government started pushing for more centralized power.

    I’ve been wondering lately if the civil war had never happen

    What has happened now would occur no matter what.

    The root core of government is flawed.

    Maybe it may have taken longer, or who know, may have happened sooner.

    However, all government expands its power and violence – it never retracts except by violent overthrow – to only start all over again – because its core premise – the use of initiation of violence on non-violent people – remains unchanged.

    • I don’t believe we will have another violent overthrow in our time. Or ever. I firmly believe that social democracy is our future and that the days of a Republic are in our past. It tears at my heart too. To me freedom should be the goal of EVERY man.

      I agree that what has happened would have happened no matter what. The Federal gov’t was going to consolidate power sooner or later.

    • I agree with you BF. It is the nature of the beast.

      Now that we understand the nature of it, how best do we proceed? (this is a rhetorical question ‘cuz I’m pretty sure of you’re answer) 😉

      • you’re = your

        oops

      • Black Flag says:

        When you see evil – you do not support it.

        You leave it, ignore it, marginalize it.

        Whenever it acts – you shine light on it – and let everyone around you know evil is lurking.

        • Chris Devine says:

          “There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!” (emphasis added)

          -Mario Savio

          • Black Flag says:

            You cannot stop the machine by giving it energy.

            I am not advocating even passively taking part.

            I am advocating LEAVING the system.

            Ignore the beast and it will starve to death.

  14. I do not have the time that some do to engage in these conversations, but I certainly enjoy and am intrigued by the discussions when I can drop in . . .

    Perhaps this discussion is an apporpriate time to share an opinion and ask a question.

    I agree wholeheartedly with all who share their dismay, disappointment, and, well, disgust with the current goings on and the current holier-than-thou and let-them-eat-cake attitude of the current administration and current Congress.

    But, what I do not hear much of (and maybe it occurs on the days that I miss the discussions) is a statement or process of how do we return and how do we re-instate capitalism, small government, personal responsibility, and opportunity for the generations to come.

    Today’s article indicates that it is too late; and as I llok at our educational system, as I listen to Mathius and understand there are millions of his generation who have embraced his principles, as I read today of a $9 trillion ceiling, it is not difficult to imagine the end of this experiement and to envision the demise and destruction of America.

    When our friend Black Flag espouses clearly that all government is evil and that this democracy has been flawed since its inception and also (yesterday) that the only acceptable solution is simply no authority (government) in any form . . . well I just do not see that working either.

    So, friends, what do we do?

    • Black Flag says:

      First, you have to articulate the core principle by which you wish to organize society?

      Authority is not an issue. I am an authority about many things on many issues.

      The issue is the “right to inflict violence on non-violent people”. As long as you can justify this -even once- you will create tyranny.

  15. Healthcare reform and abortions – what’s the truth?
    Jim Brown – OneNewsNow – 8/21/2009 6:00:00 AMBookmark and Share

    abortion forcepsPresident Obama contends that conservatives are “bearing false witness” about his healthcare reform plan, but one leading conservative says it’s the president who’s misleading the American public.

    President Obama told thousands of liberal religious leaders in a telephone call Wednesday that healthcare reform is a “core ethical and moral obligation,” and his reform plans are designed to fulfill one of God’s commandments — “I am my brother’s keeper. I am my sister’s keeper.”

    The president also said it is a “fabrication” and “distraction” to say taxpayer funding of abortion is included in the House and Senate healthcare reform plans.

    Tony PerkinsTony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, says he has been working on Capitol Hill for three months with pro-life members of Congress to ensure taxpayer funding of abortions is not included in the bill — but those lawmakers’ efforts have been unsuccessful.

    “We have a whole page-and-a-half of amendments that were offered on multiple days to do just that, and they were all voted down, primarily on party lines,” he explains. “So if abortion were not going to be in this bill and it was not the intent, why would there be opposition to just stating that it was excluded and outside the funding of this bill?”

    Perkins says President Obama is committed to his goal of funding abortion but “is now attempting to obscure this commitment because of an overwhelmingly public backlash.”

    Blue dog barks

    Meanwhile, a conservative Blue Dog Democrat says one of the main reasons he does not support the current House healthcare bill is because it allows for taxpayer funding of abortions.

    As OneNewsNow has previously reported, an amendment successfully attached to H.R. 3200 by liberal Representative Lois Capps (D-California) in the House Energy and Commerce Committee authorizes federal funding of abortions through the government-run healthcare plan the bill would create. (Listen to audio)

    Congressman Travis Childers (D-Mississippi) was Travis Childersamong a group of 19 pro-life Democrats who wrote a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, informing her that they would only support healthcare legislation that “explicitly excludes” federal funding of abortions.

    “When I was a candidate, since I’ve been in Congress, and today, I have said and I continually say, and I will not veer from this — federal funding for abortion is a deal-breaker for me on any healthcare reform bill, period,” he states. “If it is included, that’s automatically lost my vote on anything. I’m very firm on that.”

    Childers says he does not support the public option promoted by many fellow Democrats because he is a “free enterprise guy” and believes the private sector will “step up and do the right thing” if it knows Congress is serious about healthcare reform.

  16. Funding for abortions is absolutely wrong. There is no commandment for taking the life of the unborn, and if you can find one, please show me. For someone who is for partial birth abortion, I feel is a cold hearted SOB, and I don’t care who it is. There is absolutely no reason to suck the brain our of a baby, none.

    I am 100% against abortion as many of you here know, but if for some reason, the mother’s life is truly at stake, I say please, try and save the baby’s life if at all possible instead of killing it.

    I heard that Obama said if an abortion is done, then the doctor does not have to save the baby even if it can live outside the womb. Excuse me, but didn’t that doctor take an oath? Or any doctor for that matter. So what is that doctor suppose to do, just let the baby lay there and die? Good God, I hope not. I would hope that, that doctor will do anything possible to help that baby live, and not let it die.

    There are far too many abortions being done, and for what, out of convenience because the woman doesn’t want the baby. Have the baby, but for crying out loud, give it up then, so somebody who can’t have children can adopt it and give that child a good home.

    I know, I don’t have a right to force anybody to go through the pregnancy, but think of what that baby goes through during an abortion. And please, don’t tell me the baby can’t feel what’s being done to it, because it can. It can feel every little poke, pull, tug, or whatever is being done to it. Put yourself in the baby’s place and tell me you can’t feel anything.

    Yes, this is a very sore subject with me. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t condone anybody who might have had one, and I’m sure that is a very hard decision to make, but, there are ways of seeking help before you get one. I know of a couple gals who had one, and regretted it ever since. They said there isn’t a day that goes by that they wish they hadn’t done it. They think of what that child would have grown up to be, or what would they done with there life. They said that is something they have to live with for the rest of their lives, knowing what they had done.

    • Judy,

      I am at near total agreement with you. One problem, the morning after pill. It is abortion. So morally, is it any different than the partial birth abortion? I say yes, but its hard to explain, and I know Flag would use that logic and philosophy crap, and leave me a drooling basketcase for weeks.
      My thoughts are it should be progressively harder for someone to obtain an abortion. Not a perfect fix or answer, but a damn site better than what we have.

      • Good Morning LOI

        You know, you’re right, and I completely forgot abut the morning after pill. I think the difference between the morning after pill, and partial birth abortion is. 1. The morning after pill stops all further development of cells.
        2. Partial birth abortion is killing a fully developed baby that would have survived if given that chance.

        But I am against both, and I think they both are morally wrong. But, then, that’s my opinion. Maybe it’s because of what we went through in order to have our two son’s, I don’t know. But, it took us 13 years to have our first one after a miscarriage in the 4th month the first time I got pregnant, and that was after we were married for 12 years. I won’t go into any further detail. Brings up to many bad memories for me.

      • v. Holland says:

        The morning after pill works like a birth control pill 1. It stops ovulation 2. it keeps the egg from being fertilized 3. it won’t allow the fertilized egg to attach to the uterine wall by making the wall thinner. It is this third ability that some people feel is an abortion but the uterine wall becomes thinner naturally during breast feeding. Natures form of birth control, so to speak. So is birth control and the morning after pill an abortion?

        • I heard that the morning after pill stops all cells from growing. Could I be wrong? But the birth control is suppose to prevent pregnancy. I don’t know if I would classify the birth control pill as an abortion since it stops you from getting pregnant to begin with.

          If the morning after pill is like the birth control pill, then what’s the difference if they both do the same thing? Either way, if you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex then. That’s the way I look at it.

          • v. Holland says:

            My understanding is the only real difference between the birth control pill and the morning after pill is the dosage. I do believe that there is another pill, not the morning after, that is supposed to actually destroy a fertilized and implanted egg.

            • I really wouldn’t know, since I’m way past that. I haven’t got a clue as to what’s out there, what works, what doesn’t.

              Maybe I’ll ask my son when he comes over. I know that he studied these things in the last 2 years of his pre-med classes, and see what he says. He’ll be a junior this year, and he’s getting into more and more things. I’ll let you know, I just heard him drive up.

              Catch you back in a bit.

              • Hey V.

                I just asked my son about what we were talking about, and he basically confirms what you said. He said he doesn’t know anything about another new pill out there that does the same thing.

                He said since the morning after pill takes a couple weeks for it to work, and destroys the implanted fertilized egg, it is basically an abortion. Do you by any chance work in the medical field? Just wondering since you seem to know so much about this topic.

              • v. Holland says:

                No, I’ve just read about it-but it looks like I need to read a little more because I thought that the morning after pill wouldn’t allow the egg to implant.

              • v. Holland says:

                http://mayoclinic.com/health/morning-after-pill/AN00592

                Here’s the basic information/ with the name of the other Pill

  17. Black Flag says:

    Glock21

    Black Flag,I appreciate your comments. Point-by-point:First, the jury system is flawed by the nature of juror selection, which is far from tamper-proof and can often skew trial outcomes. Follow the money: Consider the drug lord millionaire who can afford background checks and obtain very private, personal information on prospective jurors.

    Hmm, I am not aware of this.

    Since jurors are randomly selected from the citizens, how does the accused get the ‘list’ to do this?

    Is this not an unfair advantage, given that the defense will be much more able to determine how someone will vote than the fund-lacking prosecutor who must proceed without such information?

    Oh, let’s be clear.

    No individual has the resources any where equal to the State.

    If the State wanted to spend $2 billion to prosecute a jay-walker, it will.

    Second – Did you SEE OJ’s first trial?

    Ah, do not confuse ‘juries’ with a perverted concept of government monopolized justice system.

    *Term limits do not contradict one’s freedom to choose their representatives. The politicians themselves are the contradictions to freedom, and to your point, it is they who render freedom a mere premise by their selfish power quests and lobbyist-love only multiple terms can sustain.

    Believe me, I am not any supporter of voting.

    However, I also attack contradictions.

    If one holds that the people can chose their representatives, yet, by some ‘law’ that choice is removed…one cannot claim that the people can chose their Representatives.

    Your thinking suggests you would have no problem with Obama’s third or fourth term…either the people can choose or they cannot…you can’t have both, correct?

    I am not at all in any argument for supporting any ‘voting’ of my enslavement.

    I merely highlight the contradiction of your position.

    It is in the contradictions that evil lives.

    I used CEO’s and civilian clubs as examples. Whether you agree it has bearing or not, the term “organization” doesn’t change definition when applied to another venue.

    Oh, but it does – it is vital.

    If the organization’s structure does not appeal to you – you have the voluntary right to leave.

    The State does not allow such.

    After all, could it not be said that many taking part in the “forces of coercion and violence” do so voluntarily?*

    Sure. But that is not the measure.

    The measure ALWAYS is, do ALL the participants take part voluntarily?

    If even one does not, the system is NOT voluntary – but coerced.

    If CEO’s are not not fired without cause and stay for a lifetime if they perform, it astounds me that politicians get to stay for a lifetime when they don’t.

    So, sit back and understand why.

    If you cannot affect a change, no matter what – do you believe the system allows a change?

    We agree on the twins analogy. But while you’re correct that there is no method of changing the system, I believe it can be changed. And term limits are a good start.

    The system cannot be changed. It is wholly a negative feedback loop.

    Those that wish to change are looped out of the ability to enact the change.

    Only those that support and maintain the system are taken into the system.

  18. Glock21…I liked your article, well done. Now the poster says it all…I really liked that can we send it to DC?

    • I added the pictures. I tried sending the pink slip to DC. I got it back marked “return to sender” with a note that said my opinion was no longer needed or desired in Washington.

      • LOL…that figures…..those people are an arrogrant bunch that is for sure. Maaybe with enough help our reps will get the message in 2012….I hope the whole bunch gets canned along with our 2 party system. I think for the first time in years the American people are actually being stirred to action. The people are tired and they are angry. Our Reps will be looking for new jobs and I hope it won’t be as lobbist.

  19. Glock 21,

    A good article. A problem with “preaching to the choir” is, little feedback except amen. Amen brother(or sister) I like the ideal presented by GOOOH, that the house can be taken by citizens who are tired of all the games our elected officials play. In 2010, I think we will see change, I just hope its not back to this two party
    Bulldookey.

    I have chosen a nine to the .45, more things that go bang. I figure even if I miss, by the time I’m done, they will have had a heart attack.

  20. Some more powerful video of a town hall with a Marine and Brian Baird.

    Morning all!

    • This Baird guy was the one that compared protesters’ actions to that of Timothy McVeigh. What a loser.

      • Hi Willo, Hi Kathy

        What a great video, and HOORAH for that Marine. You know he was P.O.’d and he really gave it to this Brian Baird, good for him.

        Semper FI

        A former Marines mom

        Judy

    • That was good Willo!! Does a heart good to know that the people are finally saying ENOUGH government. Stop or we will you.

    • Willo, great video, thanks for finding and sharing.

  21. v. Holland says:

    I think term limits are a great idea, as it has been pointed out by many, we already have limited choice or none depending on your opinion-so if we choose to limit our choice to choose by choosing to limit their power-it works for me.

    • Black Flag says:

      As I pointed once before, such belief is dangerous.

      Term limits change nothing since the party never changes. It is to the party the rep’s are aligned.

      If term limits do go through and nothing changes, you spent your ‘wad’ forcing something for nothing.

      The politicians will see that you proved them right that you, the People, are completely unaware how the system works. The politicians will read this as your complete agreement to the system and you, fully, have no hope.

      • v. Holland says:

        The Reps are aligned to the party because they keep the individual reps in power by getting them re-elected, if they cannot get them reelected-the party looses some of their power.

        • Delete the political party system. Make the candidates run on their own merits.

          Yes, BF, I know that the candidates will get funding from somewhere – like PAC’s – but without the political party being there to cloud and shroud things we will have a much more transparent campaign system.

          Remember this one very important fact = Nothing is perfect, nothing is permanent, everything is in a constant state of change. That is how everything in the universe works, from planetary masses to individual human beings . . . And that does include the governmental systems that we humans invent. What we humans build, we humans must maintain. If we do not keep a rigid maintenance schedule, whatever we humans build will fall apart.

          Like what has happened recently with our governmental system, and that is why it is broken. We must realize that one of the unintended parts is not needed to make the machine run. That part is the political party system. It is not in our constitution, therefore it is not needed. Get rid of it and the government will run properly, or as close to as it was intended to run in the first place.

          • Political parties are derived from the First Amendment, right of free assembly (and more importantly, from the natural right of free association).

            Better off trying to make it easier to get other parties/individuals on every ballot and then figuring out how to get them equal funding.

            Off-topic – how was the petrified forest? I’ve heard everything from “It’s awesome” to “It was three hours from anything and only took a half-hour to drive through so it sucked”.

            • Even though we have the right of free assembly, we must realize that it is the political party – that very thing that “We The People” did not vote into power – which is running and ruining our country. Better to figure out a way to rid ourselves of that scourge than to try and make the party work for us or push a completely new party into power.

              The Petrified Forest National Park, in my humble opinion, simply cannot be viewed reasonably in one day. We spent three days going through the park, which also consists of the Painted Desert. It is an awesome sight in any event, and I will be posting photos on my weblog later this week. We also went to Carlsbad Caverns National Park. I will post photos from there also. When viewing the photos keep in mind that pictures of these places just cannot ever do the visual effects any kind of justice at all.

            • Black Flag says:

              DK

              Political parties as such Rep and Dem ARE NOT freedom of assembly per political system.

              The political parties assign the vetted list for the voters.

              G. A. Rowe

              Delete the political party system. Make the candidates run on their own merits.

              If this was possible, it may make the system tolerable (like only barfing once a month instead of every hour).

              But – good luck – this is the part that has been completely reformed to prevent change

              As long as the Elites control the NAMES on the ballot, they run the government.

              Any attack at this point will be resisted – to the death -.

              • “The political parties assign the vetted list for the voters.”

                That was my point, it’s not really the existence of political parties that is the problem, rather their total control over the ballot (and, to a greater extent, the perception that you can only choose one of the two or your vote is “wasted”).

              • “Barfing once a month instead of every hour”, Thanks for the visual, BF!

                Question. You said any attack will be resisted to the death. Are you saying you believe it will come to violence if we don’t accept what is happening?

                Off topic: Mark Stein has a nice little piece. I enjoy reading him….
                http://www.ocregister.com/articles/obama-percent-sign-2536772-president-government

              • Black Flag says:

                You understand why I suggest total disengagement.

                Any energy into the system empowers it. Trying to rest the power, physically, from the elite will result in full all out war against the people.

                The only strategy left is – non-energy – nothing – disengagement, ignoring.

              • But doesn’t that work ONLY IF everyone does it? How does one get that kind of cooperation from an entire nation of people? We’ve been divided by our alleged ‘leaders’. As Nubian has pointed out, its part of the plan. So if we can’t get everyone to go along with your suggestion, do we work to bring the system down under its own weight, and then hope for the best? What if my suspicions about Obama are true, and he really is a dictator with evil intentions? How does not participating stop the worst from happening? I don’t think its reasonable to expect everyone to leave the country, go Galt, or not participate. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see full agreement on an effective course of action. The problem is that by the time enough folks recognize the situation for what it is, it may be too late. Some people will always be afflicted with Obama Delusion Syndrome….

              • I agree with you on turning off the tap. I hope it happens.

                I think I did’t make myself clear on us being divided as people. Its not just about Left and Right, but about black and white, brown and white, black and brown, Christian and non Christian, rich and poor, English speaking and non English speaking. The list goes on. We’ve allowed ourselves as a people, to be divided by our diffences us, rather than by what we have in common. Again, I think this has been intentionally fostered. So long as the American people are fighting each other over skin color, living standards or anything else, they aren’t fighting the elites. I like the idea of confounding the system.

                Now for Bush and Obama being evil. With Bush, though I’m no fan, I didn’t see him as truely evil. I think he was misguided but in my mind that’s different from evil. I see Obama as evil. As in mass murdering type of evil. Along the lines of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. That kind of evil. My intuition has alarm bells going off like crazy about Obama. Will he actually committ mass murder in the name of social justice or saving the environment, or will it be just to satisfy his own lust for power? Maybe I’m all wrong on it. I hope so, but that old gut feeling won’t go away. Its coming from something I perceive about him.

  22. v. Holland says:

    I keep getting off topic but I would love you guys opinions on this:

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/23/mcs-alters-rule-on-flunking/

    • Ahh….it is more important to make a child feel good (regardless of how he tries) than to educate him. Hum. Just one more way to send the education system down the tubes.

      • So, no matter how much a kid misses school, they will still be passed. Isn’t that what they call socialized passing? I think they need to have classes of where the kids can learn at their own level, I’m pretty sure we have that here in Reno, don’t know about anywhere else.

        If they pass kids just because, good Lord, what’s going to happen when they get out of school and into the real world. My son was telling me the other day, that he was at the store, and whatever he bought came to like $12.47, and she couldn’t figure out how much change to give him back. Not sure what kind of register she was working on.

        So, is this what we have to look forward to when they pass kids like this just so they feel good about themselves? Heck I went to summer school when I was in high school, didn’t hurt me any. But, then, teachers actually taught and actually helped the students whenever they needed it. One on One. Now, the students can’t get into the school before the bell rings, and can’t stay after because the teacher seems to be in a big hurry to leave. Put the kids in classes where they will actually learn on their level.

        • v. Holland says:

          Great points the only thing I would add is remove the students who disrupt the class-put them in separate classes, separate schools or jail-I really don’t care.

    • Hello V,

      This same kind of mentality is used in the California school systems. In that state they have been graduating kids from high school who not only cannot read, but cannot even do basic math.

      The parents of the MCS really need to storm the system and demand that their children be taught instead of made to “feel good” about themselves.

      Competition and high achievement standards are what increase human achievements, not mediocrity.

      • v. Holland says:

        I totally agree-right now children have to pass an exam to graduate-have no idea what is covered in this test but it probably doesn’t matter because I assume it will be the next thing to go. When are they going to admit that it is the behavior of the children that causes the problem not their “feelings” or their ability to learn, and lowering the standards to become a teacher certainly doesn’t help the learning either.

        • If they lower the standards to become a teacher, where do I sign. My son taught 2nd grade Science in one of the schools here for just the spring. He wasn’t the actual teacher, but it went towards his credits for college, and he had a great bunch of kids.

          He made science fun for the kids by doing all kinds of experiments, and by having them do the same experiments to see what the outcome would be. Not all experiments did what they were suppose to do, but he said the kids didn’t care, it was the fact that they got to be a part of it.

          He’s going to be doing that again next spring, but of course with a different 2nd grade class. He really enjoyed doing that, and he bonded with a few of the kids in that class.

      • GA Rowe

        Competition and high achievement standards are what increase human achievements, not mediocrity.

        Very Well Said, Sir.

  23. V. Answering you down here, don’t like the squishy spot to type.

    Sorry I didn’t answer sooner, but I just got through watching the movie “Knowing” with Nicolas Cage. Have you seen it? Really a strange movie, but I thought very good.

    I’ll go check out that info now.

    Judy

    • Just got through reading about that new morning after pill. basically says the same thing as the others. Plan A or plan B, seems like either one does the trick. But one just takes a little longer than the other.

    • v. Holland says:

      What a coincidence I rented and watched ‘Knowing” and “Seven Pounds” last night-wasn’t really crazy about either-might have just been an overload of sad-just know I walked away depressed not entertained.

      • We also watched The Chronicles Of Narnia, The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe. We watched the second one last week, and my son said watch the first one, so we know how and why the second turned out the way it did. Thought that was a good movie too. Don’t need to watch all those movies with sex in them all the time.

        • v. Holland says:

          I’ve seen them both and enjoyed them-I believe the third is supposed to come out sometime next year-I really should read the books. There’s definitely too much overtly sexual content in today’s movies but a little spice never hurts.

          • A little spiciness good as long as it doesn’t go to the extreme. My son was just asking since Narnia is based on books, how many books are there? He had to read the first and second one in school and do a paper on it.

            You know who I like, Gerard Butler. Umm,umm,umm. He’d make a good James Bond. I’m a big Bond fan, but I’m not crazy about the one who plays him now

            Have you ever seen Phantom of the Opera with Gerard Butler. Man, he can sing. I also liked him in ” P.S. I Love You with Hillary Swank.

            Oh! Heck, I like everybody for the most part.

            • v. Holland says:

              There are 7 books- I’ve seen several different versions of the Phantom don’t know if I’ve seen this particular one. I tend to like comedies but I really like the National Treasure movies that have come out.

              • We watch those every time they come on, and I always wonder “WHAT IF”.

                The Phantom with Gerard Butler, was done by Andrew LLoyd Webber. If you like Phantom movies, then watch that one. The girl that plays his main love in that movie, her name is Emmy Rossum, and she was only 17 when she made that. And, God, can she sing. It has a few comical parts in it.

                My sister in law is in the music business, in fact she’s the lead singer in my brother in laws band. Anyway, she is in an opera company here in Reno, and they perform quite a few operas here in Virginia City at Piper’s Opera House.

                They have done Phantom, Dr. Jeykel and Mr. Hide, Devas Desserts and, heck, can’t remember the name of the rest of that opera. Plus they have done a bunch more. They usually start doing those operas in October, and we enjoy going and watching them. Plus it gives me a chance to do some shopping at Virginia City. I just love going up there looking around.

                In fact, next month, we have what you call Stree Vibrations, where 1000’s of motorcyclists come and a bunch of them go up to Virginia City so we go there and look at the bikes. We just had Hot August Nights here a couple weeks ago where all the old cars come roaring into town, and it’s nothing but party, party, party, for a week. Quite a bit of things go on here. Besides Street Vibrations next month, we have the Reno Air Races that go on as well out in Stead.

              • v. Holland says:

                would it be this Gerald- Enjoy-I have been but no, I haven’t seen this version of the phantom.

                If you click on the list on the side you can listen to other parts of the movie.

              • I have two CD’S of the Phantom, but they are done by different people, but it still sounds googood.

              • sorry for the double good. Man I hate these squishy spots.

              • v. Holland says:

                I’ve found if you just go to your writer program(where you would write letters and such on your computer) and just type out what you want to say and then cut and paste it works great.

  24. v. Holland says:

    This is a veryyyyyyy long but IMO a very good article supporting term limits:

    http://www.heritage.org/research/governmentreform/bg994.cfm

    • Black Flag says:

      However

      It simply rationalizes this contradiction:

      “The people are too stupid to pick the RIGHT guy”

      Either you support representative gov. or you do not.

      The latter allows an infinite variation of warping choice. Pick one or any other is simply a matter of advertising.

      Are you merely manipulated by “advertising”????

      • v. Holland says:

        The Constitution was written to try to limit the power of the government-if we limit the power of Congress by having term limits we are simply continuing that noble endeavor-we are not being cowards, or being manipulated, we are simply looking at reality and trying to fix the problems. The problems cannot be fixed with any one change-it will take many. Think of the game of Jenga, Government is the tower, every good change that’s make is taking out a plank-making the tower weaker, smaller-We are well aware that it will never be perfect but we are also aware that having no government won’t be perfect either.

        • Black Flag says:

          V.,

          You are defending the right of the people to chose by limiting the people to chose.

          Are you not as equal a contradiction as the forces behind the Elite?

          • v. Holland says:

            Continuing to allow Congress(Government) to have too much power when the purpose of the Constitution is to protect the people from them, in my mind would be the contradiction.

            • Black Flag says:

              Do you believe two wrongs make a right?

              Do you believe enforcing a contradiction will repair a contradiction?

              • v. Holland says:

                I do not believe it is a wrong or a contradiction-We are talking about the rules that regulate an imperfect institution-looking at the history of this institution and making changes based on where it has failed to do what it was intended to do and making appropriate changes is not wrong or a contradiction IMO.

              • Black Flag says:

                Simply, V. (with the greatest respect)

                You either believe the people have a right to chose whomever they believe will represent them

                or

                you think they chose badly, and will overrule them.

                Sir:

                If you allow the latter; you have justified that that people are too stupid to pick their representative

                Therefore, you agree that the elites will chose them for you – you have admitted to be “too stupid”.

              • v. Holland says:

                I will give you that taken out of context -these two idea’s are inconsistent -but put in context the motive is not contradictory. I’ve gotta stop checking this thing right before I’m going to bed Now I really must go to bed-will await your rebuttal. 🙂

              • Black Flag says:

                You advocate responsible, rightful representation.

                You advocate removing representation so chosen.

                Contradiction, sir.

                You believe it is the individual that matters in party politics. You are being deceived.

                It does not matter who sits in the chair – nothing changes.

                By focusing on an illusion, you will exhaust yourself in front of the elite.

                You will win your cause – then look around and see the chains pulled tighter around your neck.

                You will not understand why that happened.

              • v. Holland says:

                I would rather try and lose than do nothing.

              • Black Flag says:

                Often, it is in the act of trying that one can do nothing but lose.

                Often, the only winning play is not to play.

  25. In case anyone is interested.

    _______________________________________________________________

    WASHINGTON — An independent senator counted on by Democrats in the health care debate showed signs of wavering Sunday when he urged President Obama to postpone many of his initiatives because of the economic downturn.

    “I’m afraid we’ve got to think about putting a lot of that off until the economy’s out of recession,” said Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman. “There’s no reason we have to do it all now, but we do have to get started. And I think the place to start is cost health delivery reform and insurance market reforms.”

    The Senate requires 60 votes to overcome a filibuster and advance a measure to an up-or-down vote. Senators from both parties said that Democrats might use a voting tactic to overcome GOP opposition, abandoning the White House’s goal of bipartisan support for its chief domestic priority.

    Democrats control 60 votes, including those of two independents, but illness has sidelined Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Robert Byrd, D-W.Va. The party’s leaders also cannot be assured that their moderate members will support every health care proposal.

    “I think it’s a real mistake to try to jam through the total health insurance reform, health care reform plan that the public is either opposed to or of very, very passionate mixed minds about,” Lieberman said.

    Talk about resorting to this maneuver comes as Republicans dig in against the idea of a government-run insurance program as an option for consumers and a requirement that employers provide health insurance to their workers.

    Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said Republicans would like to start over “with a genuine bipartisan approach.”

    “The American people will be very troubled by a single political party’s ‘my way or the highway’ attitude to overhauling their health care, especially when it means government-run health care, new taxes on small businesses, and Medicare cuts for seniors,” McConnell, R-Ky., said in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

    Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said Democrats would consider the voting tactic, known as reconciliation, if necessary to pass a bill by year’s end if Republicans won’t work toward a bipartisan solution.

    To Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, “that would be an abuse of the process.”

    Even Sen. Kent Conrad, the Senate Budget Committee chairman, acknowledged that “it’s an option, but it’s not a very good one.” He has warned that nonbudget items in health care legislation would be challenged under the rules allowing reconciliation.

    Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., also suggested that a fresh start was needed.

    “Bringing up of the health care situation in the midst of recession, the unemployment problems … was a mistake,” Lugar said. “For the moment, let’s clear the deck and try it again next year or in subsequent times.”

    Kennedy, one of the major proponents of health care reform, has missed most of the recent debate because of cancer. Both Hatch and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said Kennedy’s absence has taken a toll on the process.

    “He had a unique way of sitting down with the parties at a table and making the right concessions, which really are the essence of successful negotiations,” McCain said.

    Lieberman and Lugar appeared on CNN’s “State of the Union” while Hatch and Schumer appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” Conrad spoke on CBS’ “Face the Nation” and McCain on ABC’s “This Week.”

  26. V.

    Apparently this computer doesn’t have it, or I’m just too blind to see it. I’ll ask my computer whiz son when he and his dad get back from dinner, and see what he says. He has a way with computers.

    • v. Holland says:

      Moving down -works just as well. I have my own computer whiz son-he comes in very handy-I’d say 7 years ago I didn’t know how to turn the computer on and still don’t know much.

      • If it wasn’t for mine, I wouldn’t know how to do half the stuff I do now. Don’t get wrong, my husband is computer literate too, but not quite as good as my son. But then, he’s been using computers since he was in kindergarten, so I guess that says a lot. He just has this natural ability to do anything with a computer, and that includes taking them apart and putting them back together. That’s what he did with this one.

        He took his old computer, well not that old, about 4 years, and re-did everything so we have a much faster one, and we can put a lot more on it. Thank God for him, otherwise I don’t know what I’d do without him.

  27. Another point of interest i think.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is trailing a top Republican challenger by 11 points ahead of next year’s election, according to a new poll.

    The Mason-Dixon Polling and Research survey, reported Sunday in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, showed GOP candidate Danny Tarkanian leading Reid by 49 percent to 38 percent in Nevada.

    Tarkanian is a former basketball player for the University of Nevada-Las Vegas and recently announced his candidacy.

    The new poll also showed Sue Lowden, chairwoman of the Nevada Republican Party and a possible candidate, leading Reid by 45 percent to 40 percent.

    The sagging numbers come at a time when congressional Democrats are facing tough questions from constituents on their health care reform proposals.

    Reid has a lot of time to make up the difference in the polls. But of the top Democrats in Congress, he is perhaps the most vulnerable.

    While House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is from a solidly liberal district in California, Nevada is not so dependable for Democrats.

    Nevada’s other senator, John Ensign, is a Republican. But he’s got his own set of problems, after admitting an affair with a former staff member.

    The new poll showed 37 percent of voters would vote against him, while 30 percent would re-elect Ensign. Twenty-three percent said they’d consider a challenger.

    Ensign does not face the voters’ verdict until 2012.

    The poll of 400 registered Nevada voters was taken Monday and Tuesday. It had a margin of error of 5 points.

  28. Black Flag says:

    Bob to a perfection

    Britons Fault Health Service, Until Others Do

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/21/health/policy/21london.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper

    LONDON — People here complain endlessly about the National Health Service, which is financed by taxpayers and provides access to care, free at the point of delivery, to everyone in the country. They deplore the system’s waiting lists, its regional disparities in treatment, its infection-breeding hospitals and its top-heavy bureaucracy.
    Skip to next paragraph
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    Leon Neal/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

    A rally was held Wednesday in London to defend Britain’s National Health Service against criticism in the United States.
    Prescriptions Blog

    A new blog from The New York Times that tracks the health care debate as it unfolds.

    But they can be a bit touchy when outsiders are the critics.

    • Exactly, think of it as having a little brother. Its fine for you to beat up your little brother but heaven help anyone else who does. Englishmen complain about everything, as with the NHS you will find out our true feelings after outside criticism. There has been pretty much universal outrage from what has been said about the NHS by republicans, even that worthless rag the Daily Mail stepped in and said good things about the NHS. When the Daily Mail disagrees with you and you’re a right winger you know you have done something wrong.

  29. Black Flag says:

    For the Anthropogenic morons who believe man can change the temp.

    Using the IPCC’s simplified expression for calculation of radiative forcing due to CO2 and 380 ppmv for our base year 2007, we get a change in CO2-related forcing of about 0.000092 W/m2, which works out to between 0.0000276 °C to 0.000092 °C of potential warming avoided over those 85 years.

    That works out to a rate of between $7.3 trillion to $24.3 trillion spent per hypothetical 1 °C rise in global temperature avoided.

    Remember, this is only a hypothetical temperture difference; it’s not at all certain that any temperature difference would actually occur!

    Moreover, even if this miniscule temperature increase were avoided, it’s not at all clear that any climatic benefits would actually occur. Global warming is better, after all, than global cooling

  30. Black Flag says:

    Cyndi P

    But doesn’t that work ONLY IF everyone does it? How does one get that kind of cooperation from an entire nation of people?

    NO!

    It never (and almost nothing) requires “everyone” – that is a terrible belief – it has never been needed.

    It is the common excuse to do “nothing” (and that nothing I mean is ‘nihilism’ = that is “nothing matters”)

    What the goal is an action – that is, to REDUCE energy into the system.

    You do this by TURNING OFF THE “TAP” of Energy.

    We’ve been divided by our alleged ‘leaders’. As Nubian has pointed out, its part of the plan.

    We have no such division.

    Both sides are exactly the same team but different color shirts. Spend, spend, spend and steal steal steal.

    So if we can’t get everyone to go along with your suggestion, do we work to bring the system down under its own weight, and then hope for the best?

    Confound the system at every step – but that is NOT applying energy to it.

    There is a HUGE difference of ‘hitting the brake’ vs. merely changing tires.

    What if my suspicions about Obama are true, and he really is a dictator with evil intentions?

    Bush was no less!!!

    Where do you think the Patriot Act came from???!!!

    There is no difference then the T-shirt.

    How does not participating stop the worst from happening?

    When you apply energy to evil, it only makes it worse.

    The alternative will be bad – so what? It’s all that’s left

    Between destroyed and badly injured, the latter is better – sorry, the ‘good’ answer of “we win without being hurt” was wiped out in 1919.

    At all instances, resist government – no matter the shirt color

    There does not exist a ‘good’ government program. Do not get into the thinking if the Red team does it, its ‘good’ and the Blue team is “bad”

    They are exactly the same team

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