Taking the Fight to Fox News

Fox News LogoLet me start by letting everyone know that wordpress was down on Friday night for about 4 hours. It happened to be the four hours I intended to write, so that was why there was no guest commentary. It was not that I didn’t have submissions that could have been shared. Just wanted to give an explanation for why no article went up on Friday night. I was perusing the stuff out there this evening, hoping to find something that would strike my fancy in terms of interesting political news. I stumbled on to an article over at the Huffington Post discussing the White House’s recent decision to “go on the attack” against Fox News. I will be interested in hearing the opinion on this from the left. I know that we have discussed fox news before, and there are some who despise it. But I think that what we are seeing from the White House is something I cannot ever remember seeing before. And to be honest, it lowered my opinion of the White House a bit…

OMGSo the article over at Huffington was discussing the fact that the White House had last week released a statement that they were going to begin a new strategy aimed at going on the attack against those media outlets that are aimed at discrediting the White House. The statement from the White House specifically targeted Fox News. Now I don’t want to be misunderstood here. I understand that Fox News is far and away the most critical news network of the Obama administration and the policies that come forth from the White House. Despite some folk’s claims that I am nothing more than a conservative hack for Fox News pretending to dislike the Republican party, I am no such thing. I am not especially trusting of Fox News any more than any other of the big network news channels that pretend to be honest news outlets. But I will say that I do think that when it comes to the news sections of Fox News, I find them to be a little less biased than many of the other big boys. Allow me to explain.

O’Reilly, Hannity, and Beck are commentary. They are not journalists or news anchors. They do not claim to be. At night, Fox admittedly turns the station over to conservative commentators and interjects for 5 minutes between each show with actual news breaks. To be honest I find Beck amusing in the same way that I find John Stewart and Colbert funny. I think Beck offers a little more in the way of facts, but also equals those other two in terms of the amount of fiction. He should be taken with a grain of salt. I will stop discussing him, as I dedicated a whole post to him the other night. But in my opinion, when you stick to looking at the guys who are supposed to be presenting the news (guys like Shepard Smith), they are, for the most part, honest in reporting and unbiased. Is there a slight slant in what gets reported? Yes, I think there is. But I also think they go out of their way in most cases to be honest and say up front where the news is happening and why. I think that they appear more conservative because they are more conservative… which I think puts them more in line with regular people in America.

Obama Media PriapismFox News will certainly come across as conservative if you attempt to compare their message and content to any of the other major “news” networks out their. I do feel that this is due to the fact that the other major networks out there are so liberally biased, that even honest and completely unbiased reporting would look conservative in comparison. A quick look at the major anchors in the other networks show a ton more bias to the left than the Fox anchors show towards the right. Katie Couric, Wolf Blitzer, Charles Gibson, Brian Williams, Kyra Phillips, just to name a few, are all guilty of leaning in their reporting. We have watched plenty of studies show that the media is overwhelmingly liberal in its stories and reporting choices. The reality is that if you want to get your news without a hard spin to the left, Fox News is one of the very few sources you can find.

So it struck me as a bit odd that the White House would suddenly decide, after a year of overwhelmingly positive spin generated by MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, and the like, they would suddenly feel that they need to go after Fox News in order to set the record straight on the falsehoods presented.

Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director, said some pretty straight-forward and derogatory things about Fox News last week. Dunn said, “The reality of it is that Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party. And it is not ideological… what I think is fair to say about Fox, and the way we view it, is that it is more of a wing of the Republican Party.” I was a bit thrown back to see a statement like that from the White House. She added that “[Fox is] widely viewed as a part of the Republican Party: take their talking points and put them on the air, take their opposition research and put it on the air. And that’s fine. But let’s not pretend they’re a news organization like CNN is.” I would say that they are every bit as much a news outlet as CNN, and certainly FAR more accurate in their reporting than sleazy MSNBC.

Media Bias BedIn an interview earlier in the week with Time Magazine, Dunn also made the statement, “just sit back and defend ourselves, because [conservative media] will say anything. They will take any small thing and distort it.” When I read that statement I was literally beginning to get visibly angry with her for portraying Fox News this way without taking a hard look at the tactics being employed by the left. By distorting does she mean like the time when Fox showed a picture of a man with an assault weapon on his back while cropping the picture to hide the fact that he is a black man and then having a discussion on how this was racism against the President? Oh, wait, that wasn’t Fox, that was MSNBC. Maybe she means the way that Garofalo said the tea parties were about race and the anchor agreed with her. Crap, MSNBC again. Ohhhh, I bet she was talking about the reporter who went to the tea party and derided the sentiment as “anti-government, and anti CNN.” Wait that was CNN.

The massive amounts of “taking little things and distorting them” examples I could provide from the liberal media news outlets I listed above, or print media like the NY Times, would take days to write down.

And let’s be honest the most gross examples of taking things out of context, making false claims, playing the race card, providing misleading facts, or outright lying, come from the members of the United States Congress. On both sides.

Fox and AcornSo the question to be asked is why isn’t the White House upset with the massive amounts of false information and lying coming from the liberal media, like MSNBC. Why isn’t the White House upset and taking to task the members of Congress who lead the charge in terms of the misrepresentation of facts in today’s political discourse? Why is Fox News being singled out for challenge and ridicule? Here is your answer:

The White House is not interested in the slightest with accurate reporting of facts. They are interested in shutting down opposing opinions to their grand plans for changing this country. Where Fox News went wrong was in their decision to challenge the Messiah. How dare they challenge the great and mighty Obama! Someone in one of the articles I read likened this to a shot across the bow of Fox News. A warning shot from the Obama administration that they don’t like dissent voiced to the plans and actions of the White House. If accuracy and truth were what the White House was after, they certainly would be forced to go after, at a minimum, MSNBC.

Boo Hoo PosterAllow me to give a little example of where the media has gone these days. The other night on Saturday Night Live, they did a skit in which they depicted Obama giving an address to the American people. In the skit they made fun of Obama and listed all these campaign promises and noted how he isn’t following through on doing the things that he said he would do. They literally were giving the message that Obama hasn’t accomplished anything. CNN actually felt the need to do a “fact check” to refute the claims made in that skit. They “fact checked” SNL! A comedy show! When has a “news” network in the past felt the need to fact check a comedy show? Where were they when the outlandish skits were being done on Sarah Palin, John McCain, George Bush, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, or anyone else? SNL has always done political humor skits. Now all the sudden, “news” outlets want to fact check SNL. Outrageous. Still think the media isn’t firmly in Obama’s corner?

And now they feel the need to go after Fox News. They feel the need to shut Fox up. And I have to tell you, I agree with staunch liberal from Fox News, Kirsten Powers, when she says that this White House is the biggest bunch of crybaby whiners we have ever had. Because that is what I am beginning to see more and more of from this administration. Obama simply hasn’t been able to become the leader that we expect in the White House. And part of that is the fact that they whine and cry about everything and everyone who goes against the grain by not jumping up and down with joy at every Obama declaration.

So I say that the White House is first and foremost a group of weak crybabies when it comes to criticism. And on top of that, they feel that they have the right to attempt to shut up the only major news network that would dare say something critical of Obama.

It sure is a far cry from just a few years ago when the battle cry of the Democrats was “dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”

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Comments

  1. I miss the days of 3 networks, 1/2 hour of local news, 1/2 hour of world news (RIP Walter Cronkite). Never had these issues back then. Politicians worst nightmare is coming to light, cable/satellite tv, and the internet. Maybe they are beginning to see that they can’t lie to the people like they used to, and FOX is holding them accountable. Fact checking SNL is humorous at best, but shows that they are very afraid of the discontent the people are having with the Messiah and his merry band of whackballs.

    Have a good Monday!

    G!

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      G-Man – Cronkite was among the first to interject opinion into the daily news cycle – he did so with his opinions regarding Vietnam. This phenomena is not new.

      • I watched that program. Did not like it then, do not like it now.

      • Although to be fair Ray, Cronkite did attempt to hide his bias as much as possible when reporting the news. He later said he was ashamed that he had let his bias show during the Vietnam war. Take away that one instance, and you find a man that worked very hard to eliminate bias from his anchoring.

        • Not really. Did you ever see any of his pieces on guns?

          During Viet Nam, the only network that I think tried to be fair was ABC with Howard K. Smith and Harry Reasoner. At the end of each show they alternated with a “commentary” on an issue. There you found out what their leanings were but I defy you to find “spin” in their reporting. For my money, they had the best reporter in Viet Nam, Jim Giggins, someone who told the story from the grunts view , in the field, not in Saigon.

          Howard K. Smith’s son also a reporter, recently died of cancer. He was an infantryman with Col. Hal Moore in the Ia Drang. The elder Smith never let this slip when he was on the air.

  2. bottom line says:

    As soon as I read:

    USW – “I stumbled on to an article over at the Huffington Post discussing the White House’s recent decision to “go on the attack” against Fox News.”

    I had a thought that was very much in line with:

    USW – “The White House is not interested in the slightest with accurate reporting of facts. They are interested in shutting down opposing opinions to their grand plans for changing this country.”

    Not good. I see this as another red flag popping up. I have a feeling that the next few years are gonna be interesting. How long before they start giving fines to people like O’Reilly, Hannity, and Beck?

    • Bottom Line,

      The funny thing is that this is how I kind of saw this as well. Kind of a red flag. Yes, the media was harsh on Bush. But I never heard them singling out one media source or, for that matter, really having much to say about the media’s attacks. He kind of took it in stride and went about his business. This administration taking the stand they are taking does point towards a similar vein of thought more in line with Chavez, who shut down all opposition media thought.

      • v. Holland says:

        Exactly, the point isn’t which media is more biased, the point is that the government is too powerful to be allowed to point fingers at individual media outlets -if someone reports something negative about the White House they should address the comments NOT the specific organization who made them. When we continue to argue about which media outlet is the worse we are just allowing the people in power to continue manipulating and dividing us, we miss the important discussion of the Government messing with the Freedom of the Press.

      • Scary – I might have mentioned before the election I spoke with a physician who grew up in Caracus, residence plus 6-8 years in Michagan, then after 2 years back home – he had to leave to ‘take’ care of his family.

        Point is that the only opinion he mentioned to people was that Obama was saying the same tyoe of things that Chavez did to get elected!

  3. It is well known that reality has a liberal bias.

    • You meant it as a joke but have you ever gone back over the uber left articles from just 2000-2007? They range from being merely false conclusions to the delusional dictations of junkies in mid flight. Even better head back 30 years and the dire predictions then eclipse any of those “global wasteland” movies of the 70’s.

    • Liberal -> idealist
      Conservative -> realist

      Which is more real?

      • LOL! Um, neither.

      • Now that’s a laugh.. who are the ones always claiming that there are moral absolutes, and no gray? How realistic is the right? We may be idealist, but we are realistic as well, we realize that Adam Smith alone cannot sustain stable markets, and we know that the morality of men cannot keep the peace. We, who advocate for the intrusion of government into our lives, realize that it is a necessary evil, while the right demands that it be abolished, or rolled back to nothingness. How very realistic.

        That said, there are many on the left who think the government can be completely trusted. They are idealistic fools. But more so than those on the right who would advocate for a total absence of the government? There are dreamers and fools on both sides of the isle and in equal measure.

        • I have a liberal friend who would be more than happy to agree with my point.

          Personally, I do not advocate the total absence of government. I realize that government is necessary, but I would do my best to limit it to a reasonable amount. I realize that the government cannot help everyone, but should do its best to help whom it can. I think people should be expected to live up to a code of morals, but I realize that not everyone will agree with mine. I think everyone should be able to afford health care, but I know it is not a sustainable option. I think war is bad, but I realize it is part of life.

          Seeing where I think I am a realist while liberals are idealists?

          • You sounds dangerously liberal there.. 😉

            And your friend should know that only I am authorized to speak officially for all liberals.

            That said: I, too, would wish to limit the scope of government to the size need to obtain its goal. I simply think those goals are broader than you think they are. Once you lose your idealism, nothing ever changes. There may come a day when I give up and accept the world as it is, but until then, I will try to use all tools at my disposal to make the world a better place for all its inhabitants – that includes a large government. But that doesn’t mean, I don’t see reality.

            Some men see things as they are and say “why?”, I dream things that never were and say “why not?”

    • Here is what I remember. I remember that, during 2000-07, “liberal” was treated as bad word and we had to re-brand ourselves as “progressives.” I remember that “opposing [or even questioning] the President in a time of war” was tantamount to “giving aid and comfort to the enemy,” or “high treason.” I remember that the “liberal media” was so cowed that they barely uttered a peep of protest when we invaded Iraq under the flimsiest of evidence. I remember how they backed the Patriot (what a ridiculous name) Act. When the media finally recovered its spine toward the end of his second term (suspiciously around the time that his power began to ebb), they blasted him left and right, and you know what? They were right. He did torture, he did invade without sufficient evidence, he did spy on US citizens without warrants, he was suppressing scientific reports, Cheney was secretly stabbing hookers and burying the bodies in Arlington. All 100% true. So why shouldn’t the media blast him? If Obama did those thing, he’d be burned in effigy by the mainstream media, not just the tea-partiers. During 2000-07, the biggest failure in this country was not the President, it was the failure of the “liberal media” to hold sufficiently accountable the most tyrannical, bible-thumping, proudly anti-intellectual, warmongering, fear-mongering, right-wing, and over-reaching President this country has ever known. And I know that many on this site will agree with me.

      As is, Obama getting popped for every little thing, and I’ll tell you, it’s a good thing to hold him accountable. If he’s not being hit hard enough, then that is your right to say, but I think they’re doing a fine job of keeping him honest – though I would like to see a little more on Afghanistan, Iraq, and Gitmo. But there’s also plenty of Birther nonsense as well (the right’s answer to the Truther nonsense of the previous administration).

      As for the 70, sorry, I wasn’t around, so I can’t speak to that. But, I think hating the President is a national past-time at least as much as Baseball. Lincoln had to slink into office, Washington was burned in effigy, Bush Jr was considered illegitimate (damn you, Florida!), Obama is roundly hated as well. It’s nothing new. There’s uber-left and uber-right to blast anyone and everyone, no matter who they are.

      • They will but then too will ask of you to realize the tripling of the national debt in a mere 8 months so far beyond what Bush did that when the protectionist gloves the rest of the world wears when dealing with America’s currency comes off, the devaluing dollar alone will once again stress your economy into another fracture where then “protectionism” will be the call from unions and the American politico will be asking China to “share the wealth”. Bottom line here is as they have found in New York State, expecting “the rich” to sit still while they are raked over the coals for your “greater good” is only going to chase away all that wealth and wealth creation. Believe me when I tell you other countries (Canada included) are salivating over what they believe to be their chance to take away sections of what was America’s strong point, innovation. Soon enough should things continue on along their current vector, your best and brightest are going to head off to those countries willing to let them soar and the only thing you will be able to do is tether them at gun point.

        Its a deep understanding but one necessary to your position as THE global player rather than becoming just ANOTHER OF MANY players. Your standard of living is what’s at stake and many of you show no comprehension of what’s to be lost. None whatsoever.

        • Or they will take off to a remote area of the Rockies, where they will erect a screen that hides them from the view of passing planes.

  4. Good morning and Happy Monday to all!!

    From the MSNBC story about the gay rights march on Washington:

    Keynote speaker Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP, firmly linked the gay rights struggle to the Civil Rights movement, saying gays and lesbians should be free from discrimination.

    “Black people of all people should not oppose equality, and that is what marriage is all about,” he said. “We have a lot of real and serious problems in this country, and same-sex marriage is not one of them. Good things don’t come to those who wait, but they come to those who agitate.”

    This has to do with the “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” Policy in the Military. Personally I don’t think Obama cares who dies as long as it’s not Sasha or Mahlia. I also believe the MSM cares more about this issue than the Tea Parties.

  5. Ray Hawkins says:

    Hmmmm – not sure if I should burn the day arguing which pile of news poo smells worse – Fox or MSNBC or CNN or Whomever. I have no issue with the White House issuing policy driven fact checks – if FOX gets the facts wrong on policy then correct them. If MSNBC or CNN gets the facts wrong (both in the positive and negative) then sure, correct them. But, keep it focused on policy and actions and facts – not on whether POTUS is secretly a Muslim Kenyan, or other trash that belongs on Jerry Springer.

    Know one thing – sometimes things are best left to the blogosphere and other avenues of discourse. Anyone with agenda will, from time to time, spin the facts in their favor – there are not lying per se, but more so interpreting the same information in a different ways than someone with an opposing philosophical slant. Hell, we see that daily on this blog. Let’s not make this another exercise in Czardom – “Czar of Anti-Fox Sentiment”.

    FTR I do think all news is biased – folks like Chomsky, in doing their analysis, have proven this over and over again. News has become entertainment, so most anything I read or hear nowadays I do so with heavy degrees of skepticism.

    • Easy enough negated with FACT. If the argument includes FACT then where’s there a problem unless one side of the argument declines the use of FACT for emotional rhetoric which is no better than arguing science fact with religion of any kind be that a “scientific” or “traditional” theology.

    • One thing that gets me is the fact that they want to fact check opposing views, but don’t quash false reporting that aids them. The racist overtones that we heard all about on CNN, MSNBC, etc, could have been quashed immediately by the white house, but they chose not to.

  6. “In the United States today, we have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism. They have formed their own 4-H Club — the “hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.” Spiro T. Agnew, California Republican state convention in San Diego on September 11, 1970.

  7. Really, how dare anyone speak against our dear leader. This present government in office has to be the most hypocritical bunch of idiots I’ve ever seen. It’s ok for their MSNBC to trash anyone who comes down the pike or who has an opinion other than theirs.
    FOX news is what I listen to most of the time. Sure, you can say that Hannity, O’Reilly, and Beck are not journalists which they’re not but they do bring valid points to the table, unlike people like Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann who throws their liberal bias into the mixture for laughs or the bizarre.
    How come the MSM didn’t do any stories about ACORN or Van Jones? Did they perceive that to go against their great leader? Or did they find it was just unnewsworthy and didn’t really have any effect on the rest of America.
    My biggest grumble about the liberals and Dems in general is that they’re biggest bunch of hypocrites ever. The way they bashed Bush every way conceivable, but found nothing on the inexperience of community organizer Obama. The way they discredited Sarah Palin but praise Nancy Pelosi. The way they use America to say “dissent is the greatest form of patriotism” but then in the next breath want to do away with any form of the media which does offer an alternative to their way of thinking, totally ludicrous.
    Just wait until the 2010 elections, we’ll all see how America really thinks, just perhaps, it will be fair and balanced.

  8. CNN Anti-Earmark Story Leaves Out Obama’s Failure to Reform
    By Julia A. Seymour
    October 9, 2009 – 15:30 ET

    CNN attacked the practice of earmarking and criticized a few senators for doing it on Oct. 9, but the segment from Dana Bash didn’t mention President Obama’s campaign promises on the issue or his failure (thus far) to fulfill them.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/julia-seymour/2009/10/09/cnn-anti-earmark-story-leaves-out-obamas-failure-reform

    • Bloomberg’s false fig leaf is this paragraph from Quinnipiac:

      But Republicans get their lowest grades since Obama was elected on several measures:

      * Voters disapprove 64 – 25 percent of the way Republicans in Congress are doing their job, with 42 percent of Republican voters disapproving;
      * Only 29 percent think Republicans on Capitol Hill are acting in good faith;
      * Voters trust Obama more than Republicans 47 – 31 percent to handle health care;
      * Voters 53 – 25 percent have an unfavorable opinion of the Republican Party.

      Only one of the items even relates to health care, and the question is in no way comparable to the one asked about a specific (well, as specific as he ever gets) Obama plan. About Obama, it says that “American voters oppose 47 – 40 percent President Barack Obama’s health care reform plan.” By any reasonable reading of this result in combination with the third bullet just noted, the most you could possibly conclude is that voters specifically don’t like ObamaCare, but don’t trust Republicans to do any better with the issue in general. That simply doesn’t translate into “Voters Back Obama Over Republicans on Health Care” by any sane interpretation. The truth is that “Voters Back Republicans in Their Opposition to ObamaCare.” Jim wrapped his post by asking, “Could the media be any more in the tank for these guys?

      http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/10/08/bloomberg-spins-negative-obamacare-poll-bad-news-gop

    • Wednesday’s CBS Evening News With Katie Couric and Thursday’s Early show completely ignored any mention of the fact that the deficit has risen to a staggering $1.4 trillion, triple what it was a year ago. The Early Show, however, did find time to report the incredibly important news that Levi Johnston will be posing for Playgirl.

      Just one year ago, on October 7, 2008, Katie Couric made sure to single out the “record federal deficit.” She intoned, “Today the Congressional Budget Office reported the red ink totaled $438 billion for the budget year that ended last week. Now, that’s nearly three times last year’s deficit.” Apparently, tripling the deficit is only interesting when it’s done by a Republican.

      ABC and NBC’s morning shows all managed to report the new numbers, though mostly in news briefs only. On Wednesday, however, World News anchor Charles Gibson highlighted the report by the Congressional Budget Office on Barack Obama’s health care bill, but skipped the deficit.

      http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/10/08/cbs-skips-any-mention-massive-deficit-numbers-under-obama

    • BMI’s Seymour: Reagan Treated 13 Times More Negatively on Jobs Than Obama
      By NB Staff (Bio | Archive)
      October 5, 2009 – 17:43 ET

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      BMI’s Julia A. Seymour appeared on FNC’s “America’s News Headquarters” to discuss her latest report, “Networks Flip Flop on Jobs.”

      During Seymour’s Oct. 4 appearance, she told host Shannon Bream some of the findings of her report.

      “Let’s talk about who was the president 26 years ago, Ronald Reagan. So how were his unemployment numbers, or what happened under his watch covered as compared to how we see them being covered now under President Obama?” Bream asked.

      “Unemployment stories under President Ronald Reagan were covered 13 times more negatively than President Obama. It actually broke down to 91 percent of mentions, under the Reagan White House in unemployment stories, were negative. And only seven percent of mentions of the Obama administration in 2009 were negative,” Seymour said.

      Seymour also shared the dramatic example of Charles Gibson’s coverage of 9.4 percent unemployment in both 1982 and 2009. See video of Gibson then and now.

      http://newsbusters.org/blogs/colleen-raezler/2009/10/05/bmi-s-seymour-reagan-treated-13-times-more-negatively-jobs-obama

      ( The Gibson is interesting since he is one of the few that have reported personally about Regan and Obama)

  9. Mike M. Houston Texas says:

    This is frightening that any white house would attempt to “change” the way in which a news organization reports. How many third world countries have “the state run news agency”? Only the ones with dictators. Many are under the guise of elected but still dictators. See Iran elections. Maybe 2012 (predicted end of the world) has “some” base in reality. When he gets voted out there will probably be such an upheaval in this country all the Nostradamus crowd will have their marker. Unless of course he controls all the media and pulls an Iran on America. Can you imagine the screams of racism when he loses? Well change is surely coming – we are all about to see the cow dung hit the oscilating rotor.

    • I agree Mike. I’m concerned that an attempt on Obama’s life will be made just prior to the 2010 or 2012 electoin. Obama will survive, but ‘white racists’ will be blamed. The Race War that the Liberals have been preparing for will finally begin. So tell me, how are elections supposed to take place while nationwide race riots are taking place?

      Yeah, this is crazy talk from crackpot land…..I am crazy, right?

  10. I choose to get most of my information initially from Fox because the other networks seem to participate in reporting by omission. I’ll hear something on FOX, then flip over to the others to see how they are reporting on it. Amazingly, they often are not even mentioning it and I can’t find a single blip on their online page.

    I read that Axelrod met with Roger Ailes, head of Fox, a week or so ago. Guessing this wasn’t a friendly visit, just more heavy handiness from the WH.

    • Chris Wallace, a pretty straight shooter, had this to stay about the current regime:

      • Ray Hawkins says:

        Hmmmmm – I thought he hosted Fox NEWS Sunday? More bias?

        How Fox’s Chris Wallace became irrelevant: http://mediamatters.org/columns/200909220002

        • He’s just telling it like it is, Ray. Will it undoubtedly cost him future interviews? I’m sure it will.

          • Ray Hawkins says:

            Kathy – my point is that there is a perception that Wallace is part of the “news” portion of Fox versus another personality with an agenda. “Just telling it like it is” – Wallace is clearly trying to become the later.

            • While I agre with you Ray, that Wallace has allowed his bias to become more prevalent, I do think he is a fairly straightforward guy. To me there is a difference between being partisan straightforward and being honest straightforward. Wallace tends to be on the honest side of things, at least in the limited amount of watching him that I have done.

              It seems to me that an HONEST reporter will be accused of being biased very quickly, simply because he isn’t toeing whichever party line he is supposed to be agreeing to.

            • So, is Wallace trying to become his father? That’s what his dad used to do.

    • Kathy,

      Agree, I do the same, its not that I take everything FOX says as truth, but the amount of stories the others omit is blatant.

      Axelrod meeting with Roger Ailes, wonder if that was a warning before Obama fires him?

      I think FOX has been overboard on pushing on the Afghanistan military review. The military held the report for 40 days, they never said how long such reports are normally held and reviewed. Obama is now looking at options, which I see as good, get it right, not just a knee jerk reaction.

      I will also say Lou Dobbs seems pretty fair.
      Campbell Brown’s No Bull, No Bias is not worth watching. Someone should file a false advertising lawsuit against her/them.

  11. But, as shown in the clip regarding the equal rights, gay march on Washington, if ANYONE criticizes or disagrees with the WH, they can be minimized and thrown under the bus.

    “So the White House views gay protesters as a “pajama clad Internet left fringe”.

    Kudos to MSNBC for actually reporting this!

    http://anotherblackconservative.blogspot.com/2009/10/white-house-shows-gays-back-of-bus.html

    • But Kathy, our president-elect himself told us on election night, “To those Americans whose support I have yet to earn, I may not have won your vote tonight, but I hear your voices. I need your help. And I will be your president, too.”— Barack Obama You don’t really believe he would throw us under the bus !?! 😉

  12. Truthfully, all the news channels make me feel physically ill if I watch them for long…like more than about 5 seconds. My “g/f” watches CNN/HLN and my parents watch FOX News. Either one, my gut reaction is the same. They may fawn over, or recoil over, different authoritarian evils, but they never question the legitimacy of statist philosophy in whole. It’s all smoke and mirrors designed to get people to ask the wrong questions.

    • Hear, hear, Kent!

      One propaganda mouth piece or the others – it’s all the same MSM.

      • Average White Guy says:

        Propaganda or not, how is one then supposed to recieve information and make informed decisions about current events if the flow of information is cut? It’s obvious that no one network will be totally agenda-free, but it’s impossible to know how the current world stage is unless you are recieving up-to-date information. Pray tell where I can find this information without any spin at all?

        I’d rather watch all of them (with reservations) and try to fill in the gaps.

        • Average White Guy

          The more you watch or read from the MSM, the dumber you get. This is a known fact.

          The reason is because these outlets receive their information from each other. One story will be found – and then repeated 10 times – giving the one story the ‘weight’ of 10 reporting – thus distorting your view of how important a story is…

          Pick one source that you have a base trust in and then do more research (if the story is important to you).

          As well, I focus on the news from the business and finance world. People with money pay to find the real truth before they spend their money. Typically, the “real” story is never in MSM but found from financial sources.

          • Average White Guy says:

            I like your approach for the financial world (essentially eliminating the middle man much like a primary versus tertiary source) but for political and world event sources what could be equated to a primary source besides standing in the firefight yourself?

            I’m assuming that syndicates such as Associated Press and Tribune do a better job on that “on the wire” no spin approach?

            • War is an important economic issue – you’d be surprised how much direct info of any international event is in business services (such as Bloomberg).

              AP et al, all are yellow journalists – get their stories sitting in the bars instead of on the battle field.

              Other sources – Stratfor – but for the detailed stuff, you have to pay.

              And that’s the other theme – if you have to pay for news, it is usually quality stuff. Nobody buys junk for long….

        • BF is right. I have also found that listening to the radio’s “all news, all the time” tends to give you stuff right over the wire, before any spin can be added. The really great stories are never heard again and then you have to dig them out.

  13. Ray Hawkins says:

    Fox News = Fair and Balanced?

    Fox News heavily covers McChrystal’s troop-increase recommendations after largely ignoring Shinseki’s

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200909290047

  14. Hijack, interesting article about options for dealing with home mortgage problems.

    http://www.thedigeratilife.com/blog/mortgage-loan-modification-save-my-home/

  15. v. Holland says:

    Ever notice how history repeats its self-Obviously party politics was alive and strong throughout our history-is this the beginning of a step backwards in time-Looks like we need to start yelling Separation of Media and State

    Per Wiki:
    “In 1798, not long after the adoption of the Constitution, the governing Federalist Party attempted to stifle criticism by means of the Alien and Sedition Acts. (It was notable that the Sedition Act made criticism of Congress, and of the President, a crime, but not criticism of the Vice-President. Jefferson, a non-Federalist, was Vice-President at the time the Act was passed.[citation needed]) These restrictions on freedom of the press proved very unpopular in the end and worked against the Federalists, leading to the party’s eventual demise. Thomas Jefferson was among those who opposed the Acts, and did so vehemently, and he was elected President in the election of 1800. Jefferson then pardoned most of those convicted under the Acts. He made it a principle not to ask what they had done, but only whether they had been charged under the Acts. In his first Inaugural Address in 1801 he reiterated his longstanding commitment to freedom of speech and of the press: “If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve this Union or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.”

  16. At what given point in time did the American people quit requiring the media to report the news and started requiring the media to tell us what “they thought”? It really irks me that the media thinks the American people are so dumb that they can not figure out for them selves what a person is saying, or what a bill is saying.

    • Amazed1,

      If you want to know why the media thinks Amricans are dunb, just consider how many voters still support Obama and believe he’s the best thing since sliced bread.

  17. Welcome to the real world Mr. President, not quite the little fairy tale world you imagined, is it. Candidate (and career politician) Obama stood in front of adoring crowds making fairy tail promises of hope and change while the progressive news media fainted and swooned all over him. He sure talked a good talk and every where he went people adored him, he never saw any opposition at his cheer leader campaign rallies and when he watched the news talking heads all they could do was whisper sweet nothings in his ear. All of that should have changed on January 20 when Candidate Obama became President Obama but alas it did not, President Obama is still in campaign mode. So far he continues the hope and change rah rah song while his actions point to politics as usual. Big plans, big ideas, spend a lot of money but no solutions. Because of the perceived “love” of the sheeple and progressive news programs, President Obama felt he would be able to expand government and the deficit with no opposition. He and the Congress were unprepared for the backlash at the town hall meetings and the tea party gatherings. The only words spoken by the progressive news media was to downplay the groundswell of opposition from the people or call them racist right wing tea baggers. Because Fox News (and I mean the news people there) covered the opposition of the people to a lot of the “hope change politics as usual”, they are now public enemy number one for most of the career politicians in Washington; especially the Obama administration. Come on Mr. President grow a pair, if you have an agenda for your hope and change program give the DETAILS to the American people to see if they will support you. Instead of bashing Fox News, you might want to cooperate with them as they have the largest audience for cable news out there.

    Just my rant for the day.

  18. Numbers are a little hard to find.

    EVENING NEWS (Week of September 7, 2009)

    Total Viewers Adults 25-54 Households
    ABC 7,240,000 1.6/7; 2,040,000 4.9/10
    NBC 7,150,000 1.7/7; 2,060,000 4.910
    CBS 5,160,000 1.2/5; 1,510,000 3.6/7

    http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/16/world-news-with-charles-gibson-most-watched-outperforms-nightly-news-by-90000-total-viewers/27383

  19. Hi All

    Not to be defending O. here, he did give that interview to O’Reilly, but as far as I know, he didn’t grant any others. They probably don’t like Fox, because they do have a tendency to talk about the way the W.H. is conducting themselves, and a lot of things they don’t agree with. I also see Fox going after both parties, not just one side or the other. The W.H. is probably just mad and having a fit because Fox isn’t playing fair with them and agreeing with everything like the MSM are.

    I agree with what Kirstin Powers said, about how how this administration is nothing bug a bunch of whinny cry babies. Never thought I would hear somebody from the left say that.

    Hope all is having a good day

    Judy

  20. Americans have stopped spending credit – whether it is because the banks have retracted credit lines and credit cards or if it is the sudden discipline and realization of reality by the consumer.. (shrug).

    But this is a good sign – if the government wasn’t spending trillions of dollars of debt

    The recovery is doomed if the consumer tightens their belts while the government grows even a larger beer gut.

    • BF said:”The recovery is doomed if the consumer tightens their belts while the government grows even a larger beer gut.” good pictorial BF…. But turn the government around, their rear is so large it can no longer stand on it’s own….I think we maybe doomed without the beer gut LOL

    • One problem is that some of the organizations bailed out with your tax dollars are starting to raise interest rates and generally screw customers. Wells Fargo and Citibank come to mind. We are starting to opt-out, where we can afford it, by closing these accounts and not doing business with loan sharks.

  21. Off topic here, but this is just ridiculous. When they serve lunches in school, and they have plastic ware with it, can’t they be used as weapons just as much as any other. I’m sorry, but this just pi$$es me off to think of what they’re going to do with this 6 year. If rules are rules, then maybe they better not serve lunches in school where you have to use plastic ware. and just eat with you hands. Maybe they should just serve finger food.

    6-Year-Old Scout Suspended for Bringing Knife-Fork-Spoon Utensil to School

    Monday, October 12, 2009

    Zachary Christie

    Six-year-old Zachary Christie was so excited to become a Cub Scout that he brought his camping utensil to school. The tool serves as a spoon, a fork and a knife, and Zachary wanted to use it at lunch.

    What Zachary didn’t know was that the gizmo violated his school’s zero-tolerance policy on weapons. And now the Christina School District in Newark, Del., has suspended the first grader and ordered him to attend the district’s reform school for 45 days.

    Zachary’s parents insist their son did not intend to hurt anyone, and they are fighting to overturn the ruling.

    “Zachary wears a suit and tie some days to school by his own choice because he takes school so seriously,” Zachary’s mother, Debbie Christie, told the New York Times. “He is not some sort of threat to his classmates.”

    The school district, in a statement, said rules are rules and defended its decision to suspend the boy.

    “At this time, the Student Code of Conduct does not take into consideration a child’s age in a Level three offense,” the statement read.

    “This is the first incident this year involving a student under the age of seven in possession of a dangerous instrument. Christina School District staff and the Christina Board of Education are constantly examining ways to improve policies regarding student discipline.”

    At a meeting with the school disciplinary committee last week, Zachary’s karate instructor and his mother’s fiancé made the case for the boy’s character.

    And Zachary’s mother has started a Web site to attract support for her son before a meeting of the school board on Tuesday.

    • Ridiculous.

      A kid brought a deactivated hand grenade for show and tell to my (private) school when I was a younger. The school didn’t know that it was harmless, and called in the bomb squad (an overreaction, if you ask me), but the kid was only suspended for a few days.

      Then again, his parents were big donors to the school….. But I’m sure that had nothing to do with the light punishment..

      I understand that “rules are rules,” but sometimes common sense has to be used to override. If not, that way madness lies.

    • I know this is petty, but I wish the reporter could get the name of the school district correct. It isn’t the Christina school district, it is the ChristiAna school district. I used to live there.

    • Just exactly what has happened to an adults ability to think rationally and reasonably. This is the stupidest thing I have seen in a long time.

    • Total BS.

      • How about some zero-tolerance rules against ACORN, Rangel, Geithner, fill-in-the-blank. All the crap going on in DC, and we’re worried about 6-year-olds with WEAPONS and gay marriage. WTFO??

    • I learned to sharpen a pocket knife by third grade and carried one to school everyday from fifth grade on. All the teachers knew I had it and that it was razor sharp. They even asked to borrow it on occasions. I wasn’t even a Boy Scout, just a farmer/carpenter’s son who carried a useful tool. I still carry one. If kids even bring an aspirin to school they can be suspended for drugs. But a 16 (in some states younger) can drive a 3000 lb car to school. We don’t let them grow up slowly with graduated responibility but expect them to grow up abruptly.
      We had a local incident here when a student volunteered to take home the honor guards faux rifles to repair in his dad’s shop. Someone spotted them in the back seat of his car and called the Sheriff. When he approached his car, he was met with drawn pistols. There was a meeting to decide if he should be suspended. If it had been one of my sons, some heads would have rolled both at school and in the sheriff’s department. The only one in danger was the kid from the “adults.” Absolute stupidity.

  22. Canine Weapon says:

    CAR TROUBLE

    A blonde pushes her BMW into a gas station. She tells the mechanic it died.

    After he works on it for a few minutes, it is idling smoothly.

    She says, ‘What’s the story?’

    He replies, ‘Just crap in the carburetor’

    She asks, ‘How often do I have to do that?’

    SPEEDING TICKET

    A police officer stops a blonde for speeding and asks her very nicely if he could see her license.

    She replied in a huff, ‘I wish you guys would get your act together.

    Just yesterday you take away my license and then today you expect me to show it to you!’

    RIVER WALK

    There’s this blonde out for a walk. She comes to a river and sees another blonde on the opposite bank. ‘Yoo-hoo!’ she shouts, ‘How
    can I get to the other side?’

    The second blonde looks up the river then down the river and shouts back, ‘You ARE on the other side.’

    AT THE DOCTOR’S OFFICE

    A gorgeous young redhead goes into the doctor’s office and said that her body hurt wherever she touched it..

    ‘Impossible!’ says the doctor. ‘Show me.’

    The redhead took her finger, pushed on her left shoulder and screamed, then she pushed her elbow and screamed even more. She
    pushed her knee and screamed; likewise she pushed her ankle and screamed. Everywhere she touched made her scream.

    The doctor said, ‘You’re not really a redhead, are you?

    ‘Well, no’ she said, ‘I’m actually a blonde.’

    ‘I thought so,’ the doctor said . ‘Your finger is broken.’

    KNITTING

    A highway patrolman pulled alongside a speeding car on the freeway. Glancing at the car, he was astounded to see that the Blonde behind the wheel was knitting!

    Realizing that she was oblivious to his flashing lights and siren, the trooper cranked down his window, turned on his bullhorn and yelled, ‘PULL OVER!’

    ‘NO!’ the blonde yelled back, ‘IT’S A SCARF!’

    BLONDE ON THE SUN

    A Russian, an American, and a Blonde were talking one day.
    The Russian said, ‘We were the first in space!’

    The American said, ‘We were the first on the moon!’

    The Blonde said, ‘So what? We’re going to be the first on the sun!’

    The Russian and the American looked at each other and shook their heads.
    ‘You can’t land on the sun, you idiot! You’ll burn up!’ said the Russian.

    To which the Blonde replied, ‘We’re not stupid, you know. We’re going at night!’

    IN A VACUUM

    A blonde was playing Trivial Pursuit one night. It was her turn. She rolled
    the dice and she landed on Science & Nature. Her question was, ‘If
    you are in a vacuum and someone calls your name, can you hear it?’

    She thought for a time and then asked, ‘Is it on or off?’

    FINALLY, THE BLONDE JOKE TO END ALL BLONDE JOKES!
    A girl was visiting her blonde friend, who had acquired two new dogs, and asked her what their names were.
    The blonde responded by saying that one was named Rolex and one was named Timex. Her friend said,
    ‘Whoever heard of someone naming dogs like that?’ ‘HELLLOOOOOOO……,’ answered the blond. ‘They’re watch dogs!’

    • Q: What do you call a smart blonde?

      A: A golden retriever 🙂

      • Okay, Okay, enough with the blond jokes, I happen to be one. But,those were funny.

        • Not a joke, just blond.

          • Aww.. Emilius is a blonde too, and she’s a sharp as they come. But I grew up in “The Valley,” and let me tell you, blondes there are exactly like the girls in Clueless.

            So let’s pick on a different demographic (one I happen to be a part of.. well technically anyway.. I think my great-grandfather was one..)

            A guy goes into a store and tells the clerk, “I’d like some Polish sausage.”

            The clerk looks at him and says, “Are you Polish?”

            The guy, clearly offended, says, “Well, yes I am. But let me ask you something.” If I had asked for Italian sausage would you ask me if I was Italian? Or if I had asked for German bratwurst, would you ask me if I was German? Or if I asked for a kosher hot dog would you ask me if I was Jewish? Or if I had asked for a taco would you ask if I was Mexican? Would ya, huh? Would ya?”

            The clerk says, “Well, no.”

            With deep self-righteous indignation, the guy says, “Well, all right then, why did you ask me if I’m Polish just because I ask for Polish sausage?”

            The clerk replies, “Because this is Home Depot.”

            • That was pretty good, but you’re not going to believe this, I’m half Polish from my mom. Got any thing else?

              I am part Italian, German, Irish, French, Sioux. That’s from my dad’s side.

              • Don’t get me started on the French jokes…

                But I’ll give you this one..

                Go to Google.com

                Type in “French Military Victories”

                Click the “I’m feeling lucky” button

                You’re a smart one, I’m sure you’ll figure it out from there if you’re paying close enough attention 🙂

              • Probably some trick huh.

              • Just follow the steps exactly and then use your head.

              • Okay smarty pants, which one, too many to choose from. Didn’t see anything that said I’m feeling lucky.

              • That’s because you didn’t follow the steps exactly. When you go to the Google homepage (http://www.google.com/), there is a search field and two buttons. One says “Google Search” and the other says “I’m Feeling Lucky”.

                You just searched for it, you have to do this from the home page and follow the steps, missy.

              • Okay, but watch who you’re calling Missy, there buster.

              • Went there and it said you mean French Defeats. Was that it?

              • That’s half the battle.. you can then click the link (for defeats) and it will give you a very humorous summary of French military history.

                I sense, though, that this is one of those humorous things that we had to work too hard to get to, so it lost all the funny.. Still a good read though (Canine Weapons gave the direct link below)

              • Canine Weapon says:

                If it makes your life easier, just go here:
                http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

                ::wags tail::

              • Gotit Canine, thank you.

            • Sure, I’ve got a million of ’em..
              Q: Did you see the polish submarine with a screen door?

              A: Don’t laugh, it keeps the fish out.

              and one of my favorites:
              Q: Why do Polish dogs have flat noses?

              A: From chasing parked cars.

      • for sure

  23. I don’t care what the poll says, I’m just glad there’s somebody running against him, couldn’t have happened to a better guy. This is one Nevadan who hopes that anybody but Reid wins in 2010.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid continues to trail the two top Republican candidates vying for his seat in next year’s election, a new poll shows.

    The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that former Nevada GOP chairwoman Sue Lowden and former university basketball star Danny Tarkanian both lead the powerful Nevada Democrat in head-to-head matchups for 2010.

    The Mason-Dixon Polling & Research survey put Lowden at 49 percent to Reid’s 39 percent. It put Tarkanian at 48 percent to Reid’s 43 percent.

    Reid has persistently trailed his potential GOP rivals in early opinion polls. The latest showed that he’s suffering from widespread negative sentiment — the survey showed 50 percent view him unfavorably, while 38 percent view him favorably.

    But the poll consisted of a relatively small sampling size and had a large margin of error. It surveyed 500 voters between Tuesday and Thursday, and had a margin of error of 4.5 percentage points. Reid also has more than a year to turn things around.

    The poll showed Nevada voters are largely undecided on who their GOP candidate should be. Among Republicans, 23 percent backed Lowden and 21 percent backed Tarkanian. Seven other candidates polled far below that, and 44 percent of voters were undecided.

  24. Humor in the Court

    Q. What is your brother-in-law’s name?
    A. Borofkin.
    Q. What’s his first name?
    A. I can’t remember.
    Q. He’s been your brother-in-law for years, and you can’t remember his first name?
    A. No. I tell you I’m too excited. (Rising from the witness chair and pointing to Mr. Borofkin.) Nathan, for God’s sake, tell them your first name!

    Q. Did you ever stay all night with this man in New York?
    A. I refuse to answer that question.
    Q. Did you ever stay all night with this man in Chicago?
    A. I refuse to answer that question.
    Q. Did you ever stay all night with this man in Miami?
    A. No.

    Q. What is your name?
    A. Ernestine McDowell.
    Q. And what is your marital status?
    A. Fair.

    Q. Are you married?
    A. No, I’m divorced.
    Q. And what did your husband do before you divorced him?
    A. A lot of things I didn’t know about.

    Q. How did you happen to go to Dr. Cherney?
    A. Well, a gal down the road had had several of her children by Dr. Cherney, and said he was really good.

    Q. Do you know how far pregnant you are right now?
    A. I will be three months November 8th.
    Q. Apparently then, the date of conception was August 8th?
    A. Yes.
    Q. What were you and your husband doing at that time?

    Q. Doctor, how many autopsies have you peformed on dead people?
    A. All my autopsies have been performed on dead people.

    Q: Was that the same nose you broke as a child?
    A: I have only one, you know.

    Q. Did he pick the dog up by the ears?
    A. No.
    Q. What was he doing with the dog’s ears?
    A. Picking them up in the air.
    Q. Where was the dog at this time?
    A. Attached to the ears.

    Q. When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with him to the station?
    MR. BROOKS: Objection. That question should be taken out and shot.

    Q. And lastly, Gary, all your responses must be oral. O.K.? What school do you go to?
    A. Oral.
    Q. How old are you?
    A. Oral.

    Q: What is your relationship with the plaintiff?
    A: She is my daughter.
    Q: Was she your daughter on February 13, 1979?

    Q: …and what did he do then?
    A: He came home, and next morning he was dead.
    Q: So when he woke up the next morning he was dead?

    Q: Do you drink when you’re on duty?
    A: I don’t drink when I’m on duty, unless I come on duty drunk.

    Q: …any suggestions as to what prevented this from being a murder trial instead of an attempted murder trial?
    A: The victim lived.

    Q: Are you sexually active?
    A: No, I just lie there.

    Q: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
    A: Yes, I have been since early childhood.

    Q: What is the meaning of sperm being present?
    A: It indicates intercourse.
    Q: Male sperm?
    A. That is the only kind I know.

    Q: (Showing man picture.) That’s you?
    A: Yes, sir.
    Q: And you were present when the picture was taken, right?

    Q. Were you aquainted with the deceased?
    A. Yes, sir.
    Q. Before or after he died?

    Q: The truth of the matter is that you were not an unbiased, objective witness, isn’t it? You too were shot in the fracas?
    A: No, sir. I was shot midway between the fracas and the navel.

    Q. Now, Mrs. Johnson, how was your first marriage terminated?
    A. By death.
    Q. And by whose death was it terminated?

    Q. Doctor, did you say he was shot in the woods?
    A. No, I said he was shot in the lumbar region.

    Q. And who is this person you are speaking of?
    A. My ex-widow said it.

    Q. Mrs. Smith, do you believe that you are emotionally unstable?
    A. I should be.
    Q. How many times have you comitted suicide?
    A. Four times.

    Q. Officer, what led you to believe the defendant was under the influence?
    A. Because he was argumentary and he couldn’t pronunciate his words.

    Q. What happened then?
    A. He told me, he says, “I have to kill you because you can identify me.”
    Q. Did he kill you?
    A. No.

    Q. Mrs. Jones, is your appearance this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
    A. No. This is how I dress when I go to work.

    Q: Now, you have investigated other murders, have you not, where there was a victim?

    Q: Did you tell your lawyer that your husband had offered you indignities?
    A: He didn’t offer me nothing; he just said I could have the furniture.

    Q: So, after the anesthesia, when you came out of it, what did you observe with respect to your scalp?
    A: I didn’t see my scalp the whole time I was in the hospital.
    Q: It was covered?
    A: Yes, bandaged.
    Q: Then, later on.. what did you see?
    A: I had a skin graft. My whole buttocks and leg were removed and put on top of my head.

    Q: Could you see him from where you were standing?
    A: I could see his head.
    Q: And where was his head?
    A: Just above his shoulders.

    Q: What can you tell us about the truthfulness and veracity of this defendant?
    A: Oh, she will tell the truth. She said she’d kill that sonofabitch — and she did!

  25. Hi Ya’ll!

    I’ll start with a joke, not intending to offend anyone, I will try to be politically correct.

    Driving down a country road, a polish blond was passing a freshly plowed field. She looked into the field to see a frech blond, in the mddle of the field, in a row boat, just rowing away.

    Angry, the polish blond stopped her car, backed up, and got out of her car. She proceeded to yell “It’s blonds like you that make all blonds look stupid!

    “And furthermore, If I could swim I come out there a kick you’re butt!”

    On a financial note, a cache of world war II relics will be auctioned next week. It seems a large amount of French weapons from WWII were discovered. The advertisement reads “French WWII weapons for sell, never fired, dropped once”

    Peace!

    G!

  26. Calling Fox News “a wing of the Republican Party,” the Obama administration on Sunday escalated its war of words against the channel, even as observers questioned the wisdom of a White House war on a news organization.

    “What I think is fair to say about Fox — and certainly it’s the way we view it — is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party,” said Anita Dunn, White House communications director, on CNN. “They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that’s fine. But let’s not pretend they’re a news network the way CNN is.”

    OK, if you say so…

  27. It said, share this, so I am.

    Protesters brought some different songs Monday to an elementary school where students sang in praise of President Barack Obama, bringing criticism from conservative commentators who said children were being indoctrinated.

    About 70 protesters stood on a sidewalk across the street from the B. Bernice Young School waving flags and homemade placards, singing “God Bless America” and “The Battle Hymn of the Republic,” and chanting slogans such as “No indoctrination” and “Free children, free minds.”

    A smaller group of counter-protesters watched and occasionally heckled them.

    The school is in a diverse suburb 15 miles northeast of Philadelphia and landed in an uncomfortable national spotlight last month when the video, shot last school year during an author’s visit, surfaced. In it, second-graders sang a medley that began, “Mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack Hussein Obama/He said that all must lend a hand/To make this country strong again.”

    Some critics of the president say the song was overtly political and follows a pattern of Obama being viewed as an idol rather than a politician.

    Monday’s 90-minute protest, held while the school was in session and attended largely by members of anti-tax organizations from around the state, was an outgrowth of that sentiment.

    “We should continue protests like this to prevent this from happening again,” said Robert Gordan, 66, a retiree from Middletown.

    Karen Flowers, a 43-year-old state government social worker, was there to protest the protesters.

    “I don’t have any problem with the first African-American president, the children singing about it,” Flowers said. “They’re making a lot out of nothing.”

    Jim and Gina Pronchick, who were among the few protesters who have children in the school, said they were upset that their son was in the video without their permission — and that school officials hadn’t fully explained the context of the song.

    The song was performed in February during an assembly that celebrated a number of occasions, from Black History Month to Dental Health Month, the township Board of Education said in a statement Monday. The lyrics were sent home to parents in advance, the board said.

    The video was made a month later when Charisse Carney-Nunes, who wrote the children’s book “I Am Barack Obama,” visited the school and children sang the song again, school officials said.

    “There was no intention to make any political statement or promote a political agenda at all,” Superintendent Christopher Manno said in the statement.

    The teacher who oversaw the class has retired.

  28. Were you aware that when the POTUS and the First Lady have sex, Mr. Obama always has to be on the bottom. The only thing he knows how to do is Eff UP 😉

    • What a horrible image.

    • ouch. racist. 🙂

    • An early update regarding Christmas in our nation’s capital for 2009. I wanted to leak the story early so everyone fully understands.

      There will be no Nativity Scene in Washington this year! The Supreme Court has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene in the United States ‘ Capital this Christmas season. This isn’t for any religious reason. They simply have not been able to find Three Wise Men in the Nation’s Capital. A search for a Virgin continues. There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the stable.

    • No pictures Willo….Please no pictures…lol

  29. Calling Fox News “a wing of the Republican Party,” the Obama administration on Sunday escalated its war of words against the channel, even as observers questioned the wisdom of a White House war on a news organization.

    “What I think is fair to say about Fox — and certainly it’s the way we view it — is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party,” said Anita Dunn, White House communications director, on CNN. “They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that’s fine. But let’s not pretend they’re a news network the way CNN is.”

    Fox News senior vice president Michael Clemente, who likens the channel to a newspaper with separate sections on straight news and commentary, suggested White House officials were intentionally conflating opinion show hosts like Glenn Beck with news reporters like Major Garrett.

    “It’s astounding the White House cannot distinguish between news and opinion programming,” Clemente said. “It seems self-serving on their part.”

    In recent weeks, the White House has begun using its government blog to directly attack what it called “Fox lies.” David Gergen, who has worked for President Bill Clinton and three Republican presidents, questioned the propriety of the White House declaring war on a news organization.

    “It’s a very risky strategy. It’s not one that I would advocate,” Gergen said on CNN. “If you’re going to get very personal against the media, you’re going to find that the animosities are just going to deepen. And you’re going to find that you sort of almost draw viewers and readers to the people you’re attacking. You build them up in some ways, you give them stature.”

    He added: “The press always has the last barrel of ink.”

    Gergen’s sentiments were echoed by Tony Blankley, who once served as press secretary to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

    “Going after a news organization, in my experience, is always a loser,” Blankley said on CNN. “They have a big audience. And Fox has an audience of not just conservatives — they’ve got liberals and moderates who watch too. They’ve got Obama supporters who are watching. So it’s a temptation for a politician, but it needs to be resisted.”

    Nia Malika Henderson, White House correspondent for the Politico newspaper, also questioned the White House offensive against Fox.

    “Obama’s only been a boon to their ratings and I don’t understand how this kind of escalation of rhetoric and kind of taking them on, one on one, would do anything other than escalate their ratings even more,” she said.

    Dunn used an appearance on CNN’s “Reliable Sources” over the weekend to complain about Fox News’ coverage of the Obama presidential campaign a year ago.

    “It was a time this country was in two wars,” she recalled. “We’d had a financial collapse probably more significant than any financial collapse since the Great Depression. If you were a Fox News viewer in the fall election, what you would have seen would have been that the biggest stories and biggest threats facing America were a guy named Bill Ayers and something called ACORN.”

    Ayers was co-founder of the Weather Underground, a communist terrorist group that bombed the Pentagon and other buildings in the 1960s and 1970s. In 1995, Ayers hosted Obama at his home for a political function and the two men later served together on the board of an anti-poverty group known as the Woods Fund.

    The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which once had close ties to Obama, has been accused by a variety of law enforcement agencies of voter fraud. In recent weeks, the Democrat-controlled Congress moved to sever funding to ACORN after Fox News aired undercover videotapes of ACORN employees giving advice on how to break the law to a pair of journalists disguised as a pimp and prostitute.

    As for Dunn’s complaint about Fox News’ coverage of the Obama campaign, a study by the Pew Research Center showed that 40 percent of Fox News stories on Obama in the last six weeks of the campaign were negative. Similarly, 40 percent of Fox News’ stories on Obama’s Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, were negative.

    On CNN, by contrast, there was a 22-point disparity in the percentage of negative stories on Obama (39 percent) and McCain (61 percent). The disparity was even greater at MSNBC, according to Pew, where just 14 percent of Obama stories were negative, compared to a whopping 73 percent of McCain stories — a spread of 59 points.

    Although Dunn accused Fox News of being a “wing of the Republican Party,” she said the network does not champion conservatism.

    “It’s not ideological,” she acknowledged. “I mean, obviously, there are many commentators who are conservative, liberal, centrist — and everybody understands that.”

    Still, Obama refused to appear on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace on Sept. 20, the day he appeared on five other Sunday shows. At the time, the White House characterized the snub as payback for the Fox Broadcast Network’s decision not to air an Obama prime time appearance. But last weekend, Dunn blamed Fox News Channel’s coverage of the administration for Obama’s snub of Fox News Sunday.

    “Is this why he did not appear?” Dunn said. “The answer is yes.”

    Wallace has called White House officials “the biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington.”

    Dunn was asked by CNN’s Howard Kurtz whether Obama would grant an interview to Fox News by the end of the year.

    “Obviously, he’ll go on Fox, because he engages with ideological opponents and he has done that before, he will do it again,” Dunn replied. “I can’t give you a date, because frankly I can’t give you dates for anybody else right now.”

    But last week, Fox News was informed by the White House that Obama would grant no interviews to the channel until at least 2010. The edict was relayed to Fox News by a White House official after Dunn discussed the channel at a meeting with presidential spokesman Robert Gibbs and other Obama advisers.

    “What I will say is that when he (Obama) goes on Fox, he understands he’s not going on it really as a news network, at this point,” Dunn said on CNN. “He’s going on to debate the opposition. And that’s fine. He never minds doing that.”

    Dunn also strongly implied that Fox had failed to follow up on a New York Times story about a scandal swirling around GOP Sen. John Ensign of Nevada, although Fox News broadcast the stories on numerous shows, including Special Report with Bret Baier.

    Clemente questioned the motives of the White House attack, which comes in the wake of an informal coffee last month between Fox chairman Roger Ailes and Obama adviser David Axelrod.

    “Instead of governing, the White House continues to be in campaign mode, and Fox News is the target of their attack mentality,” he said. “Perhaps the energy would be better spent on the critical issues that voters are worried about.”

    Blankley suggested the war on Fox News is unpresidential.

    “It lowers the prestige,” he said. “If you’re president or speaker, at a certain level, you don’t want to be seen to be engaging that kind of petty bickering. If you’re just a congressman, maybe you can do it.”

    In an interview over the summer, Obama made clear that Fox News has gotten under his skin.

    “I’ve got one television station that is entirely devoted to attacking my administration,” he told CNBC’s John Harwood. “You’d be hard pressed if you watched the entire day to find a positive story about me on that front.”

    At the White House Correspondents Dinner in May, Obama even mocked the media for supporting him.

    “Most of you covered me; all of you voted for me,” Obama said, spurring laughter and applause from the assembled journalists. “Apologies to the Fox table.”

    Gergen said the White House should delegate its attacks to outside support groups.

    “Why don’t they take this over to the DNC, over to the Democratic National Committee, and have their struggles like that fought out over there and not out of the White House?” Gergen said. “I have real questions about that strategy.”

  30. When it comes to Barack Obama, there are two kinds of people. One still believes he walks on water, the other knows he’s just a talented politician.

    The five-man Nobel peace panel obviously belongs to the faith-based camp. Count them as slow learners.

    Yet there’s no sense cursing them, for they inadvertently have provided a valuable service: Their award signifies the high-water mark of Obama-mania. The prize is so preposterous, it can only hasten the awakening of others to his inflated stature.

    Like an investor who buys into a bubble just before it bursts, the panel’s declaration that Obama has done more for peace than anyone on the planet does not stand even half-serious scrutiny. The instant result is a simultaneous diminishing of both the prize and the man.

    Arriving when half of America disapproves of Obama’s performance as president and others are having buyer’s remorse, the prize smacks of a desperate bid to prop him up. Because it comes from lefty foreigners who look with contempt on values most Americans cherish, the award serves to further distance Obama from his nation’s political heartland.

    The very things the Nobel folks applaud him for — “a new climate of international politics” — go to the heart of suspicions Obama is ashamed of his country and aims to unilaterally lower its guard.

    Indeed, the committee cited Obama’s push for nuclear disarmament. That’s certainly a noble goal, but foolish and dangerous if only the good guys buy in.

    Even French President Nicolas Sarkozy scolded Obama for being starry-eyed on the subject, telling him, “We live in a real world, not a virtual world, and the real world expects us to make decisions.”

    Sarkozy’s barb came as Obama hesitates to confront Iran and North Korea over nuclear weapons, but it could also have applied to his second-guessing the Afghanistan strategy. Only months after declaring it a “war of necessity” and vowing to defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda, Obama finds the fight difficult and is reportedly redefining the mission to target only Al Qaeda.

    Dreams of peace built on appeasement litter history’s battlefields. As Ronald Reagan put it, “The search for peace must go on, but we have a better chance of finding it if we maintain our strength while we’re searching.”

    Reagan said that at West Point shortly after taking office in 1981. He went on to win the Cold War and helped liberate hundreds of millions of people from the clutches of tyranny.

    Now there’s a man worthy of a Nobel Peace Priz

  31. Cindy, I thought your comment was interesting enough to touch on a little deeper:

    Cindy said: The Race War that the Liberals have been preparing for will finally begin. So tell me, how are elections supposed to take place while nationwide race riots are taking place?

    I just want to share my opinion here. First, i live in Youngstown Ohio, which has been in the top ten most dangerous cities for quite some time. First, I do not believe that the majority of the black population wants anything to do with race riots. Even those who support Obama have told me that the opposition to his policies is not racist, and many have lost their early belief he can do anything good. They (the blacks that i speak with) are just as concerned with race riots as you.

    If they were to occur, it would be contained in the worst of the inner cities, rather than widespread as some would think. While many fear what the black and latino gangs could do, they are incredibly outnumbered. The average hard working minority just want the same as all of us, a job and a safe home to raise our kids.

    There was a video on FOXnews.com today about a gunfight in Toledo, Ohio. What’s important is the fact that NOONE was hurt. Beyond 15 feet, these jerks can barely hit the wall in front of them.

    So to ease your mind alittle, I could join 9 average deer hunters (vets or not), and go against 5 or 10 to one odds and end any threat they pose. WE are out here, we are not criminals, and we are generally quiet peaceful people. WE also number in the millions. So do not fear what a few might choose to do in the name of race wars, they would be destroyed in short time.

    Hope I could ease your mind!

    G!

    • Racism. Radicalism. Reparations.

    • Thanks G-Man,

      I’m more concerned for my 21 year old daughter who is attending Ol’ Miss. My immediate family all either don’t think Obama is a mere mortal, or are smart enough to lay low. I’m on an island in the middle of nowhere (USW can confirm 🙂 ) I feel pretty safe here.

      I see race riots as a fabricated crisis, like so many others, so that still more power can be grabbed. I don’t think riots would have to be very wide spread for DHS, and the Obama’s shadow government of czars to make some moves. Remember, “Never let a good crisis go to waste”.

  32. Now I’ve heard it all. This is absolutely absurd. IMO anyway.

    Baby Alex Lange has been denied health insurance for being too fat.

    Nothing brings a smile to an adult’s face quicker than the sight of a happy, chubby baby.

    But the sight of 4-month-old Alex Lange, who measures 25-inches long and weighs 17 pounds, is bringing a frown to the hypothetical face of insurance company Rocky Mountain Health Plans, The Denver Post reported on its Web site Monday.

    Underwriters, the people who are in charge of assessing risk for insurance companies, have decided that baby Alex’s pre-existing condition — obesity — makes him a high-risk patient and have denied him coverage.

    His parents were shocked.

    “I could understand if we could control what he’s eating. But he’s 4 months old. He’s breast-feeding. We can’t put him on the Atkins diet or on a treadmill,” joked his frustrated father, Bernie Lange, a part-time news anchor at KKCO-TV in Grand Junction. “There is just something absurd about denying an infant.”

    Bernie and Kelli Lange tried to get insurance with Rocky Mountain Health Plans when their current insurer raised their rates 40 percent after Alex was born.

    After filling out the necessary paperwork, the broker who was helping the family find new insurance called last Thursday with the shocking news that Alex, who weighed 8 1/4-pounds at birth, was being denied coverage.

    At 17 pounds, Alex is in the 99th percentile for height and weight for babies his age. His parents were told insurance companies don’t take babies above the 95th percentile, no matter how healthy.

    Dr. Doug Speedie, medical director at insurance company Rocky Mountain Health Plans, told KKCO-TV, it’s possible for a baby to be above the 95 percentile and still be healthy, and admitted the system is flawed.

    “Your weight is not an absolute determinate of health,” Speedie said. “Unfortunately when we try to sell people insurance, a number has to be used as a cutoff.”

    • I saw that, that is dusgusting. It’s not like he’s able to spread HIV (sorry, perfectly acceptable lifestyle). BUT the gov’t plan won’t help unless there is more competition for health insurance. These insurance companies, drug makers, trial lawyers and politicians are all greedy bastards who don’t care about their patients.

      Sorry to rant, but what a crock

      • Wasabi

        You can rant all you want, because I agree with you. Good Lord, what do they expect, for the baby to lose weight? Oh, Gee, can I say the word Lord here? Don’t want to get into trouble.

    • Man, my kids would have been screwed! I had one 9#er, one 10#er and the last just over 10#s. All were tested for infant diabetes and were fine. They were in the 90+ percentile for most of their first year and then became “normal”.

      • Hey Kathy

        Just more B.S.. My oldest son was so chubby when he was a baby, we could have used him for a spare ball in bowling. As he grew older, he got so skinny, you couldn’t see him sideways. But that was when he was a teenager. He is now 6′ tall and weighs in at about 175 to 180.

  33. Good night Judy and everyone else, this has been a good discussion.

  34. Fox News should inform The White House that according to Florida courts it’s not illegal to lie as a media corporation. Not that I support Fox…or CNN for that matter. I watch Steven Colbert. Now THAT guy knows what’s going on.

  35. BF, LoI, Indy, Cyndi, Judy, Mathais, Weapon, and all distinguished folks:

    I would surmise that every follower of every news station is going to have their own reasons for watching or reading what they will. In my humble opinion the main-stream media (MSM) is a bit behind the power curve inasmuch as since when has a cable news organization ever rivaled and/or out rated the networks?

    Recently whilst in Atlanta, GA I visited CNN. After speaking with some exec’s I was shocked to hear that if CNN took it’s viewership times (x) seven days it still would not equal one of the Big Three’s viewership for one day. Now I realize that every one has something to say — yet I’d rather see the data myself.

    This much I am sure of: Much the same as US Weapon I’m not too certain that I’ve seen the White House stoop to the level that this current one is vis-a-vie the written, spoken, and watched media.

    What happened to Rush Limbaugh this last week is nothing shy of the hunt; serious fabrications were launched at him and acknowledged by those who fired each salvo — yet for some reason it’s okay for the MSM to victimize an individual without recourse.

    And lastly, call me ‘old-school’ but I still favor the r-e-a-l news. Print journalism is under major attack for people unadulterated plagiarizing and justly so. Every major from New York – Chicago, LA, Florida, Dallas and come under some indictment for flat out stealing another’s work.

    The network people…well in all reality they are highly paid readers of the news — then try and act like they’re above the fray whilst trying to embarrass someone.

    I like and support Fox News; at least they try and look at both sides of every issue. Btw, can anyone explain why an alleged POTUS (adult) makes the Sunday Show rounds with the exception of Fox News? Character…folks, character…or void of. Cheers!

    jps

  36. Only two comments, One you will not like, I was approached by a gay girl one time, she went into vivid detail as to what happened between 2 women, I will not shock you, so it was so vivid, I said goodbye. Not for me. The other, I resent Obama a lot, as a Honorably Discharged Marine of WW2m my comrades are in danger as well as soldier and the other Afgan army and this —– fool has the nerve to go dancing, to having fun, to lying all over the place and not giving his pick of general the ok for more troops to support the ones in Afganistan, I do not approve of all these Americans in Japan, Germany, all over the world, we can bring these troops home, in Afghanistan a bit different, the women and girls are in lots of danger, but when things finally settle down, bring all home, why are we paying to guard the world, I resent this and all administrations that send our men and women all over the nations, we can help when needed, but get them home from Afganistan as soon as possible, when most harm has been taken care of. The money this costs is tremendous, but Obama doesn’t care, not his money, yours and your kids and grandkids and just how are you going to pay for it?????????????????????///

  37. Sir: He has no character, he is a product of being raised by radical Islamic Fasics(sp) and I am sorry he had such a miserable childhood, but being raised in Chicago, a mean place, ask Michelle Obama, Fox tells the truth, sometimes I change and watch a religious program as sometimes the truth is too true. They go into great detail and when I watch Glenn Beck, I must be strong as he take of what is coming is so vivid, it scares me a bit, I will continue to hold on to my faith in My Lord and Savior, that helps me. Sometimes I wish they were not so fair and balanced, as I was Democrat for 47 years, noticed Pelosi, Reid, Frank, changed to Independent,after watching the O’Reilly program, I was raised by a Democrat, my father said democrats are for poor people as we are, republicans for wealthy which we will never be, so being now Independent fits me fine. But if I want I will change to Republican, my son would disown me then. God bless all who caringly post with their concerns. Thanks for tolerating me. God Bless USA

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