Late Night… No Time to Write

Unfortunately I don’t have the time to write tonight as I would like to do. I have been working on work stuff for the last several hours and will be doing so for another couple of hours tonight. Tomorrow night looks the same. So tonight I will offer no article, but will instead extend the open mic by offering a few more topics and letting everyone offer their topics throughout the day. I cannot promise an article tomorrow night, but will try to get at least a short one posted. I am still looking for guest commentary stuff so if anyone wants it considered for this week make sure it comes in by the end of the day on Thursday. I appreciate everyone’s patience during this very busy week.



  1. USWeapon Topic #1

    Oregon Apartment Complex Bans Flying the American Flag

    An Oregon apartment complex is banning its residents from flying American flags, not only from their dwellings but also their vehicles, KATU in Portland reported.

    Residents’ outrage started when Jim Clausen, whose son is in the military and on his way back to Iraq, was told he couldn’t fly an American flag from the back of his motorcycle.

    If he didn’t take the flag down, he was told he’d face eviction, the station reported.

    “It floored me,” Clausen told the station. “I can’t believe she was saying what she was saying. It [the flag] stands for the people that can no longer stand – who died in wars. That’s why I fly the flag.”

    Sharron White, a long-time resident, was told by management to take down the flag she’s flown on her car for eight years because “someone might get offended.”

    “I just said to her, ‘They’ll just have to get over it,'” White told the station.

    The ban also applies to flag stickers on cars, as well as sports flags.

    KATU attempted to contact management at the apartment complex, but no one returned their calls.

    This article was presented in its entirety but can also be viewed at,2933,566341,00.html?test=latestnews

    You know, I am torn on this. One side of me says that the apartment complex is private property, and if the company that owns it wants to implement this policy, they have the right on their property.

    On the other hand, this is absolutely ridiculous. It is the flag of our country. I am of the mind that there should be no place in this country where we cannot fly the flag of the United States. We have watched the flag of this country get bettered again and again. And to be honest I am tired of the hypocrisy around it all. In this country, we permit free speech to dictate that you can burn the flag of this country. We permit something like this madness from the apartment complex. Yet, at the same time, we have hate crime legislation in which the mere mention of certain words during a crime make the penalty more harsh, we have a conservative blowhard denied the ability to purchase a NFL team because of his words which offended people.

    Am I out of line, here? Isn’t it time that we started to stop this kind of madness?

    • Who are the nameless people who are intimidating the property management into creating such a rule? Why don’t the reporters track them down and interview them? USW, I too feel that this kind of politically correct BS should stop. Is the ban specifically written into the rental agreement? If not, then the renter should have the right to fly the flag as long as it does not harm or interfere with his neighbors rights. If the neighbor objects that is just tough since any infringment of one person’s rights is an infringment of all people’s rights. You limit yourself when you limit others.

    • Posting for email comments. Since I’m not awake yet, not thinking straight, I can get away with saying something dumb. Find the owner(s) of the apartment complex, and burn their mansion(s) down. Nothin better than a good hot fire to roast hot dogs and marshmellows on a cold night! Maybe the fire company could use their fire hose to practice waterboarding on them while their on the seen.


    • Richmond Spitfire says:

      Hi USWeapon,

      When I read this article this morning, I was shocked. This is really just going too far. The residents of that “property” are leasing a portion of that property and should be allowed legally (unless there is a clause in the contract they signed) to fly a flag on their own personal property (i.e. their cars).

      This is truly ridiculous….and it has potential to become even more ridiculous tomorrow and the day after that, i.e. As you know, I hate onions…let us say that my next door neighbor at the apt complex loves onions and cooks them every night for dinner…the smell is disgusting to me. So, if I complain to the complex owners, they will ban all cooking of onions on their property. This is just soooo stupid and soooo dangerous in sooo many ways to personal liberty. The owners of that apartment complex should be ashamed of themselves.

      Best Regards to all,

    • Kristian Stout says:

      Those folks were on Fox and Friends yesterday and this morning there was an update, the apartment complex manager apparently had a change of mind, if not heart, when this was put out there on national television. The ban has been rescinded…lol! I thought that was just too funny!

    • I would be okay with a ban like this under 2 conditions:

      1) It was written into the rental contract or the bylaws of the complex

      2) That the ban applied to ANY flag, and was not just applied selectively to certain flags, and allowed others.

      • I think one issue was that they were trying to ban a flag some guy had on his motorcycle. It is his own property, so I’m not really sure if they could have.

    • I think I would have dared them to evict me. If they tried, hired a lawyer and fought them on first amendment violation.

  2. USWeapon Topic #2

    Rough Road Ahead for New York Eagle Scout as School District Won’t Budge on Pocketknife Suspension

    As a 17-year-old Eagle Scout continues to wait out a one-month suspension from his upstate New York high school for having a 2-inch pocketknife locked in a survival kit in his car, the U.S. Military Academy says the missed school days could pose a big problem when it reviews his application.

    Pressure is mounting on a Troy, N.Y., school board to overrule Matthew Whalen’s suspension from Lansingburgh High School, which was issued because of a zero-tolerance policy that is facing increasing opposition from parents and education advocates.

    Whalen, a senior, says he stocks his car with a sleeping bag, water, a ready-to-eat meal and the small knife, which was given to him by his grandfather, a police chief in a nearby town.

    Read the rest of the article here:,2933,566182,00.html?test=latestnews

    You know, yesterday I see in the news that a 6 year old was suspended from school and told he had to spend 45 days at a different school for problem kids because he brought a cub scout utensil to school. Fortunately it looks as though the school is backing down a bit from this harsh treatment of the grizzled 6 year old terrorist threat.

    Now today we see a kid who was commended for saving someone’s life a year ago. A kid who is an Eagle Scout. A kid who is planning to go to West Point. A good kid, according to every single account that anyone has brought forward. He doesn’t take a knife into the school, he has a 2 inch pocket knife locked in a survival kit in his car. The school suspends him for 20 days. Again the zero tolerance policy rears its ugly head.

    And, at least according to the quotes in this article, West Point sees that this might end up hurting his chances for admission.

    I have had it with this absolute craziness. This kids future is threatened because the administrators don’t have the common sense to look at this and see that there was no threat, no cause for alarm, and no reason what-so-ever to take the steps that are being taken. And even with national attention being cast upon the school for their lack of intelligent thought, they still aren’t backing down.

    And here is where I have to ask any of you who still support the idea of the public education system…. do you really think that these idiots have a chance of administering a good education to our children? If they lack the ability to use reason and common sense in a situation like this, what chance to you think there is that they could possibly teach kids to think or use reason?

    Abolish the public education system in America now, before the next generation is unable to read this blog and even begin to participate in the conversations.

    • How is a 2″ knife locked in a survival kit in a locked car a weapon that poses any danger to anyone? Anyone with any imagination can create a weapon out of almost any object. The tire iron in the car can be a weapon. The car itself can be a weapon. Yet these items are legitimate. Where does one draw the line between protecting the public and being just plain absurd. I suppose if a kid planned on going fishing after school (or before) then his filleting knife in the tackle box is a weapon. They are usually a 4″-5″ blade and razor sharp. What is lost is this kid took the initiative to be prepared for a disaster.

      As I said yesterday, we do not allow the kids to grow up and take responsibility in a reasonable fashion before they get turned loose on society at 16 with cars and 18 as adults. They can not get summer jobs before age 16 without work permits and even then they must receive minimum wage making jobs hard to find. So most kids graduate high school never having worked a day in their lives.

    • From the link to the article:

      “and when school officials discovered that Whalen kept his knife locked in his car, he says, they suspended him for five days — and then tacked on an additional 15 after a hearing.”

      So how did they “discover” the knife in the first place? Do they search student’s cars?.

      Maybe he told a friend and it got around. If so, Whalen is getting a good lesson about the wisdom of keeping quiet.

      What a ridiculous situation, you would think the school officials would have better things to spend their time on. It appears one of the biggest I.Q. deficits is in our education system, what a shame for the kids.

    • I am curious. How did the school find out about the knife? Because unless they decided to do a search of everyone’s car, he must have done something to cause them to go look in his locked kit in his locked car.

      I agree though that this is a wild overreaction, but I do suspect there’s a part of the story we’re missing here..

      • His dad was on with Shep Smith yesterday. Another student narced him out. When the principal confronted him he admitted to having the knife locked in the kit in the car. He showed it to them, cops dismissed the call as stupid. The school still suspended him. Now that is just stupid!

        • Why did the kid narc him out? Why is he telling people that he has it?

          Again, I think this is a major over-reaction, but I can see this going a few different ways.

          • He was asked wht he regarded a resonable question, and he answered it honestly. Most honest people don’t immediately get defensive when asked a question, they answer it.

            • But, Redleg, the narc didn’t ask him out of nowhere: “Do you have a knife in your car?”. Something had to bring the subject up. It could have been something innocuous “Hey, I saw a box in your car.. what’s in it?” Or it could not have been. And the narc could have been confused or legitimately concerned, or he could have been a jerk. Until I know more, I will reserve judgment.

    • I saw this on the news this morning. Supposedly someone from West Point said it is highly unlikely that this will affect his admission.

      I understand the need for a zero-tolerance policy, but there are supposed to be intelligent people overseeing it. A case like this is an obvious exception! Tell the kid not to bring it anymore and suspend him if he does again.


      • Why should he not bring it? Its in HIS car. Does the school have ANY reasonable to worry about what might be in a car in their parking lot? Do they check the teacher’s cars? Do they check parent’s cars? I remember kids having rifles and ammunition in their cars during the school day during deer season. And shotguns during duck season.

        • Well, the issue is bringing a knife onto school property. Being in the parking lot, I suppose his car could fall under that heading, but I don’t know the technicality. My point was that maybe he didn’t know it wasn’t ok and they should have given him another chance at least.

    • The real problem is the “zero-tolerance” rule to begin with. When schools accept this policy (and most of them do) they leave themselves no choice but to enforce it despite common sense. At the moment, they don’t have any loop-holes to get this kid out of trouble because they backed themselves into a corner. Although I think it’s an absolute travesty this kid is suffering needlessly, the authority of the policy would crumble if they waved him off. I think they need to re-vamp the policy with common sense written in somewhere.

      I am very surprised about West Point’s reaction, although the undermining quality is probably why they sided with the school. A fence is only as good as it’s maker.

    • Zero tolerance is a totalitarian tactic.

      Zero tolerance = no mind of one’s own – no desertion of context; no self-reliance on one’s own thinking.

      We’ve seen this already where airports banned mini-GI Joe plastic soldiers no bigger than one’s thumb – because it was holding a tiny gun.

      Welcome to the totalitarian State.

      The only way to defeat this is to ridicule them. Everyone should send these morons letters of ridicule and embarrass the hell out of them.

    • v. Holland says:

      I agree that the zero tolerance rule takes out the ability to use common sense but we must also look at it from the side of the people who’s responsibility it is to protect the students-if they let this go and this boy killed someone with that knife-what then-what would the public’s opinion be then.

      • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

        If the boy really wanted to kill someone with that knife, he would do so regardless of what the “rules” were.

        • v. Holland says:

          I agree-my point is more that whenever anything bad happens such as Columbine the public gets understandably scared and they start looking for someone to blame-so in this case they looked at the schools and demanded that something be done so this would never happen again and these unreasonable policies came into being-now we are starting to see the consequences of overreacting but we really can’t blame the schools for following them to the letter because if they didn’t and the worse happened they would be blamed. So we need to use incidences like the ones we have been talking about to change the rules to something reasonable instead of blaming and ridiculing the people enforcing them.

      • If the People are confused by the difference between real and irrational threats, this confusion will be used to enslave them.

        • v. Holland says:

          I don’t disagree with your statement either-I simply believe that the people should stop always looking for someone to blame every time a crazy person goes bonkers-we seem to be more interested in finding someone else to blame besides the person committing the crime -so instead of looking for reasonable ways to prevent it from happening again -the people being blamed, out of self preservation and an honest desire to never let it happen again instate crazy rules. I think our society just has a weird mind frame anymore-don’t blame the individual, blame someone or something else and institutions like schools feel like they have to cover any and all possibilities.

    • Delaware school backs down after outcry over ban on pupil with lunch knife

      After the meeting, one board member admitted: “We got egg on our face.”

      The most important tactic in a battle vs. government – is legitimacy

      Embarrassment attacks legitimacy. It is a demonstration of error and error damages legitimacy.

      “Experts” lose legitimacy when they are shown to be wrong in their expertise.

      Governments – above all – fear making errors. This is why the bureaucracy road blocks change. Change risks making mistakes.

      The most formidable assault on local government is an attack of embarrassment and ridicule. They are defenseless against such tactics.

      Remember this when you go up against city hall.

    • A sharpened wooden pencil, a mechanical pencil, a ball point pen are deadly weapons in the hands of a person who wants to do a nefarious act. When will they be banned under a zero tolerance program???

  3. USWeapon Topic #3

    Why Joe Biden Should Resign… by Arriana Huffington

    It’s been known for a while that Biden has been on the other side of McChrystal’s desire for a big escalation of our forces there — the New York Times reported last month that he has “deep reservations” about it. So if the president does decide to escalate, Biden, for the good of the country, should escalate his willingness to act on those reservations.

    What he must not do is follow the same weak and worn-out pattern of “opposition” we’ve become all-too-accustomed to, first with Vietnam and then with Iraq. You know the drill: after the dust settles, and the country begins to look back and not-so-charitably wonder, “what were they thinking?” the mea-culpa-laden books start to come out. On page after regret-filled page, we suddenly hear how forceful this or that official was behind closed doors, arguing against the war, taking a principled stand, expressing “strong concern” and, yes, “deep reservations” to the president, and then going home each night distraught at the unnecessary loss of life.

    Well, how about making the mea culpa unnecessary? Instead of saving it for the book, how about future author Biden unfetter his conscience in real time — when it can actually do some good? If Biden truly believes that what we’re doing in Afghanistan is not in the best interests of our national security — and what issue is more important than that? — it’s simply not enough to claim retroactive righteousness in his memoirs.

    Though it would be a crowning moment in a distinguished career, such an act of courage would likely be only the beginning. Biden would then become the natural leader of the movement to wind down this disastrous war and focus on the real dangers in Pakistan.

    Read more at:

    I have to admit that I was a little surprised when I went to the Huffington Post and found this to be the lead article at the top of the page. But I urge all of you to jump over and give the entire article a read. She lays out a really interesting read.

    So what do you guys think. Would it be a good move for Biden to resign and become the face of the “bring em home” movement? Ar eyou surprised to see Arriana become a vocal advocate for Biden to resign? I look forward to your thoughts on this one.

    • Arriana the Huffer vieing for an alternative place to store Joe “might just slip up and tell the truth” Biden is a surprise? You don’t go there much do you?

    • If he has convictins that strong, then yes he should. As shoud McChrystal resign if the President doesn’t decide to escalate and just “stay the course”.

    • Yes, definitely. He should resign. It won’t happen but he’d get my support if he did. These wars are insane. They do nothing but waste lives, money and resources. Obama backed himself into this Afghanistan corner (and mess) with campaign rhetoric to appease Independent centrists and those with like minds in the Democratic Party. It is a disaster and should be ended forthwith.

  4. I wish Biden would resign, then Obama, then Pelosi, and Reid, and Frank, oh hell, you get the idea…

    I’m so disgusted with what’s happening to the USA, I can’t even bring myself to discuss it anymore.

  5. So the Fed is ‘puzzled’?

    “The minutes also show that the Fed viewed the decline in Treasury yields as “puzzling” given the improved economic outlook” .

    • Investors aren’t nearly as imbecilic as the media it would appear. As I’ve said a thousand times in the past 8 months, the current incarnation of POTUS has assured China’s place as THE future of investment. Comprehend.

      CHINA DAILY SHANGHAI: Foreign direct investment in China continued to recover in September, rising 19 percent from a year earlier to $7.9 billion, the Commerce Ministry said Thursday.

      However, actual foreign direct investment for the first nine months of the year totaled $63.8 billion, a 14 percent decline from the same period of 2008, the ministry said.

      There was a nearly 11 percent increase in the number of newly approved foreign invested companies in September, suggesting that China’s economic recovery is attracting investment after a lull earlier in the year.

      The September rise in foreign direct investment compared with a 7 percent year-on-year increase in August, and declines of 35.7 percent in July and 6.8 percent in June.

      The figure does not include stocks and other financial assets.

      China’s economic growth rose to 7.9 percent over a year earlier in the quarter ending June 30, up from 6.1 percent the previous quarter, and analysts say the recovery is gathering strength. Retail spending and industrial investment are rising.

      China is a top investment destination but double-digit growth rates plunged in late 2007 as foreign companies were hit by the global downturn and cut spending. Many are continuing to invest in China to take advantage of its stronger economic growth compared with other countries.

      Note: Adding this to China’s own enormous foreign investment fund actively seeking partnerships in mineral resources across the globe gives you the whole picture. China is poised to be the new economic juggernaut for the next 100 years and the current incarnation of POTUS, “the warmies” and the rest of the “share America’s pseudo-wealth” unions are making certain it indeed does.

      This all reminds me of the “Sorros investing in American green companies” headline which neglected to mention the same companies were slated for a turn or two suckling on the government teat. What’s not mentioned means far more than what is.


    I’m curious why people think something is a “right.” I can understand life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (explicitly stated in our country’s founding documents), but a fast internet connection?

    • Its not about bandwidth, its about having the legislature in place to control the system itself. Let me make a law to take your best interest into my hands and I’ll do what I deem right for you little brother.

  7. So since it is open mic today, I thought I would share this story with everyone.
    I started a business over the summer and am still in the process of trying to make a go of it. So I work fulltime at my other paying job, go to school parttime and am trying to start this company. I must be insane. But anyway, it is a company that cleans and repairs foreclosured homes. I start because I thought it was a win win situation. No matter where I was hired I would hire local people, give what good stuff is left in the home to local charities etc. You get the picture.

    So I have been meeting with Realtors and Bankers to get my foot in the door. I had 5 meetings this past Saturday with bankers in Chicago and Madison. I was told pretty much the same thing, to them it is not worth cleaning them up and trying to sell them. So I asked, why keep bad debt on your books when you have a chance of getting rid of it, and why let neighboors suffer with these empty homes? Everyone one of them, said it was not something they were concerned with.

    I have to say I knew it was going to be tough to start, I have no issue with that. But the attitudes I have recieved from Bankers and Realtors across the board is amazing. No one seems to care. The “its not my problem” attitude is unbelievable to me.
    I started this to be a apart of the solution of this problem in the housing market. But these people who are neck deep in it, careless than anyone.
    So I thought I would vent and tell you all about it.

    • Step 1: Take out a mortgage, buy the foreclosure, clean it and resell for profit.

      Step 2: Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

      Step 3: Profit.

      • Scratch that..

        Step 1: Take out as large of a small business loan as possible.

        Step 2: Buy a bunch of foreclosures – preferably in a small geographic area.

        Step 3: Renovate them. In some cases divide them into two family homes with basement apartments.

        Step 4: Rent them out. Use the proceeds to pay off your business loan.

        Step 5: Continue to collect rent in perpetuity.

        Step 6: Use profit to buy more houses.

        Step 7: Wash, rinse, repeat.

        Step 8: Get a bad comb-over like Donald Trump.

        Step 9: Retire.

    • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

      First of all, I commend you on your entreprenurial spirit, and yes, logically, you would think that there would be a tremendous market for this sort of service right now.

      Secondly, why would you find it surprising that the banks and realtors have absolutely no interest in cleaning and fixing up foreclosed houses and re-selling them? It is much easier for them to have the house fail to sell, go to auction “as-is” and just get what they can for it, and then write down any loss that they take.

      I know this seems (actually IS) completely nonsensical, but the way things are run in this country anymore, the nonsensical makes perfect sense.

      Your proposed business, in a SANE country with a housing crisis, would make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. In an INSANE country with a housing crisis, you will waste more time trying to get work than it is worth. Sad but true.

      However, your ability to identify a potential niche market, design a business to service that market, and attempt to profit thereby is simply awesome! 🙂

    • On their end why invest more into a property you’ve already lost a fortune on in the first place? Losing a bit less does not outweigh the outlay when loaning that same money to someone who can afford to pay it back. This is their own proven method of generating income. What you are pitching them is house flipping and I would not doubt for a second they hold a number of properties which are in their hands because “the market” wasn’t there for such. My wife has looked into homes in America and those selling are fire-sales one and all.

      • PeterB in Indianapolis says:


        Home sales are starting to rebound, but the only homes selling are the foreclosures that are going for 10% of what the market value was 2-3 years ago.

        Barely any other housing is selling at all. If it were not for Federal (and in many cases State) incentive programs for “first time buyers” (defined as anyone who has not bought a home in the last 3 years) there would be no sales whatsoever outside of the foreclosure market.

        • I just went to contract on a non-foreclosure. We lost two non-foreclosures to bidding wars before this one. We got this one at 91% of asking price (maybe 75% vs the height of the bubble). And it’s a great bargain.

          Maybe it’s just the area where I’m buying, but that doesn’t seem accurate at all.

          Adding, I’m not going to be eligible for the home-buyer credit.

          Also adding, mortgage rates are hovering around 5%. There will never EVER be a better time to buy – that helps too..

          • PeterB in Indianapolis says:


            There are some pockets where real estate might be doing fairly well, and yes, especially with the low interest rates and the ability for many (though not you apparently) to get a minimum of $8000.00 towards a home purchase, a few areas are doing ok.

            The vast majority of the country does not fall into the “doing ok” category though.

            I do whole-heartedly agree that if you have the money to buy real estate right now, it isn’t a bad idea.

            • My master plan is to buy real estate and have just a little cash left over. Then, when as dollar inflates, I can enjoy the de facto decrease in mortgage payments without worrying about losing the stored value of my savings. BWA HA HA HA!

              • PeterB in Indianapolis says:


                Let inflation pay for the real estate you buy now.

                Precisely what you should be doing!

              • I agree with your strategy with one caveat.

                Remember a small profit over a large portfolio is a large profit.

                A small loss over a large portfolio is a large loss.

                Be careful of over extension.

                I suggest

                for a good, strong strategy of private real estate investment.

        • PeterB in Indianapolis says:
    • Ellen, I saw an article recently on a man doing just this in Madison and area suburbs. He seemed to be doing very well. I’ll search around and see if I can provide a link.

    • Could it be that the bad asset is worth more in government subsidies than it is to clear off the books? Also by clearing it off the books with a loss, they have to claim the loss thus lowering their stated assets making them look worse to the FDIC. There are a lot of games companies play with the books to keep investors happy and to keep regulators at bay.

      Your service sounds like it should be a winner until this crisis passes. Cudos for trying. Hope you succeed.

    • Ellen,

      The banks are still in a state of denial. They are letting the properties dissolve because they are overwhelmed by the disaster….. a hundreds of thousands of new foreclosures every month.

      And now, it is hitting the prime mortgages.

      The second mindset is that the banks have been ‘bailed out’ of this mess – the FED owns these properties and the banks are merely the ‘baby sitters’. And they really don’t care.

      Be patient – you maybe a bit premature in your business model. Consider extending it to professional property owners like Matt – who invest in foreclosures. They will need to have a strong team of ‘clean up’ professionals at an economical price to refresh their properties. Perhaps get to know them.

      Also, make sure you have a web site – no one will do new business with unknowns – your web site will make you known.

      • “They were the worst three months of all time,” said Rick Sharga, spokesman for RealtyTrac, an online marketer of foreclosed homes.

        During that time, 937,840 homes received a foreclosure letter — whether a default notice, auction notice or bank repossession,

        300,000 a month….

        Remember – this is the number that are under foreclosure – not the number that are actually not paying. The latter probably triples this figure.

        The flood of homes is enormous.

        Ellen, be patient and find Mattius (and his ilk). They will buy your service.

        Matt, all these people will need a house to rent. 🙂

        • Thanks Black Flag! Yes I have a website and all the business stuff I need to get going. I just keep plugging away. I figure the more patience I am, I will make it in the end.

          • You should also look at an adaptive housing program of which I have in the past invested in. At the time we were converting housing into being senior friendly. Bathrooms and laundry rooms were a big deal until we had most of that segment of our local market serviced and our little well went dry. Then the plug was pulled save for a few annual addons Wayne took care of. The market we realized was there because of our drastic shortage in senior care housing and the bubble of boomers coming into that stage of their lives who didn’t need a care home but a home they could care for with their aging abilities. It also got them pretty jazzed up about not being farmed out to “the home”.


    The bill orders all states to create an “exchange” where companies offering government-approved plans can sell health insurance. Americans earning up to 400 percent of the poverty level ($103,000 for a family of five) would be eligible for federal subsidies in the form of a refundable tax credit to buy health insurance—but only if they buy one of the government-approved plans in the government-created exchange.

    The government will not pay this subsidy to the individuals purchasing insurance. The U.S. Treasury will pay it directly to the government-approved insurance providers.

    We’ll help you afford healthcare… if you buy what we tell you to buy.

    Under this bill, the government commands individuals to secure insurance for themselves and their dependents. “In order to insure compliance, individuals would be required to report on their Federal tax return the months for which they maintain the required minimum health coverage for themselves and all dependents under age 18,” says the text.

    The government would enforce this mandate with a fine. “The consequence for not maintaining insurance would be an excise tax of $750 per adult in the household,” says the text.

    The bill does not similarly order businesses to provide employees with health insurance. However, people who get insurance through their employer will not be eligible for the federal subsidies.

    And here is the whip the government will use to drive most Americans into government-approved, government-subsidized, government-controlled health insurance: An employer that decides not to provide health insurance for its workers will be required to pay a fee to the government for each of its workers that receives a federal subsidy. But the total paid to the government by any employer will be capped at $400 times the total number of that employer’s workers.

    Even though this fee will not be tax deductible, it will be far cheaper for a business to pay the government $400 per worker than to pay a private insurance company thousands per worker for an insurance plan.

    So we’ll force you to get healthcare (that we decide is acceptable) or you’ll pay a $750 fine per adult. You’re employer will likely not cover you because our plans will be too expensive and we’ll fine them only $400, giving them an incentive to drop you. Then we won’t help you afford healthcare unless you do what we tell you (buy from our own insurance plan).

    Those of you who want this to pass, does this not sound fishy to you?

    • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

      “The government commands”…”The government would enforce”…”The bill does not similarly order business to”…

      Can you TRULY claim that you are NOT A SLAVE if you are FINED for not doing what the government COMMANDS you to do?

      If you STILL do not believe that all of us in America are slaves to the government, you live in a very, very delusional world my friends.

      Freedom and Liberty have completely left the building, and not nearly enough people are calling for them to come back for an encore performance.

      The consequences of the healthcare bill will be fairly immediate, and they will be profound:

      1. Many doctors, especially if they are older, will immediately retire.

      2. Many people considering going into the medical profession will immediately change their minds.

      3. This will directly lead to a massive shortage of doctors, while the bill will flood the medical system with those seeking medical care.

      4. Medical care will precipitously decline as the supply of qualified doctors and nurses shrinks and demand skyrockets.

      5. The government will attempt to “cure” this new crisis by throwing a ton of additional money at it.

      6. This will cause the cost of government run healthcare to skyrocket, but will not have a significant ameliorative effect on the situation.

      7. Costs will continue to spiral upwards, while the quality and availability of care will continue to decline.

      8. The US will eventually HAVE to default, because the debt will mount to continually absurd levels, to the point where no one other than the Fed will buy US debt.


      • After all that doom and gloom, you want me to enjoy it? 🙂

        The “fine” part being assessed by the IRS has me wondering if it violates the due process clause. I thought only courts could issue fines and then only after due process. How does the IRS get away with it?

        • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

          The IRS can impose penalties for non-payment of taxes.

          Oh but WAIT! This isn’t supposed to be a “tax increase”!!!!

          Yeah, right.

    • I heard some thing interesting yesterday. With the push to also remove any restrictions to denying coverage for preexisting conditions that young people with no childern just might decide to pay the fine until they get sick or seriously injured, and then they will get coverage.

    • I sure would like to see this policy apply to car insurance. So many people just can’t be bothered, their cell phones are way more important. These are the people doing the speed limit in the passing lane.

      I do not pay the uninsured motorist coverage. It reminds me of hoe my medical coverage keeps getting more expensive because folks are using the ER for minor things and I am paying for it.

      I think that, if you are caught driving without insurance, the costs should be like a DUI. Big bucks, how about a deterrent people!!

      Handcuffs and tow truck, car impounded at a daily storage fee and license suspension. If you don’t want to pay insurance then WALK or take the bus. I’m sick of paying all this $$ for your sorry asses.

  9. John Lott


    – October 14, 2009
    LOTT’S NUMBERS: Happy Days Aren’t Quite Here Again

    The Dow breaks 10,000 — but don’t go feeling as if you have gotten back all your wealth over the last six months. The American dollar doesn’t buy what it did just a short time ago.

    With the Dow Jones Industrial Average reaching 10,000, Americans are feeling wealthier.

    Unfortunately, roughly a third of the increase simply reflects the falling dollar, that American goods and assets are becoming cheaper to the rest of the world. About a third of the increase in stock prices has occurred simply because the value of the dollar has fallen so much. Just as a lower dollar makes it more attractive for foreigners to buy American goods, it also makes it a better deal for foreigners to buy stock in American companies.

    Over the course of this year, as the value of the dollar rose until the beginning of March, the stock market fell. As the dollar fell during the rest of the year, the stock market rose. While the stock market has risen by about 49 percent since its low in March, the dollar has fallen by about 20 percent against the Canadian dollar, 17 percent against the Euro, 15 percent against the Mexican Peso, and 11 percent against the Japanese Yen. For each of these currencies the dollar peaked right when the stock market hit its lowest value.

    Figures 1 and 2 are available here and here.

    To get an idea how important these drops in the value of the dollar are, if the dollar hadn’t declined by about 17 (the amount it fell against Euro), the stock market would be only at about 8,600.

    Obviously other factors have played a role in the swings over this year. For example, in early March, Larry Summers, the White House Economics adviser, blamed a fearful public for dragging the economy down and said that there was an “excess of fear” – the economy was no where near as bad at that time as many believed. President Obama’s claims that “we were in the “worst financial crisis since the Great Depression” and that we had an “unprecedented crisis” may certainly have added to those concerns. In any case, part of the increase in stock values since March may simply have occurred because they were too depressed in March.

    In any case, don’t go feeling as if you have gotten back all your wealth over the last six months. The American dollar doesn’t buy what it did just a short time ago. Whether it is imported cars from Japan or Korea or wine from France.

    • Shhhh! You’ll spoil everything.

    • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

      As I have pointed out many times, in the past ten years, we have gone from $1 = 1.50 Euros to $1 = 0.75 Euros. This represents a dollar decline of 50% over 10 years essentially.

      This is a far better indicator of the health of our economy than our own stock market ever could be.

  10. I have noticed a phenomena which I will refer to as the Deep Impact Phenomena. You see, when the movie Armageddon came out, so did the movie Deep Impact. With the movie Bug’s Life came Antz. Matrix and Thirteenth Floor. Et cetera. What interests me is when this happens in media.

    You see, kids are probably suspended all the time for bringing things to school which, realistically, they shouldn’t. Even when the punishment is overkill, this kind of thing probably happens all the time. What is interesting to me is that after the 6 year-old made news, immediately so did the senior with the 2″ knife. Neither is worthy of national news – local at best (we have two wars, a budget crisis, a universal health care debate, et cetera). Why one incident should be reported is beyond me, but more than one is simply stupid. This is a pattern which has emerged time and again in the news. And it annoys me. It’s as though an instance sets the theme of the week and everyone piles on with vaguely correlated stories.

    Since there’s no topic today, I thought I’d bitch a little. And thanks for listening 🙂

    • PeterB in Indianapolis says:


      With the burgeoning plethora of 24-hour “news” networks, it is natural that without ginning up outrage over some “weekly topic” or other, they would simply run out of “news” to report.

      Also, it acts as deflection. Most people find it MUCH easier to get “outraged” over incidents like these kids getting suspended than they do to get genuinely outraged over things that actually matter.

      It took 40 years after Timothy Leary advocated it, but the majority of Americans have finally turned on, tuned in, and dropped out. They didn’t even need LSD to do it, and unfortuately instead of dropping out of “the system” they just plain “dropped out” and have decided that anything the system does is just fine, they simply do not care.

      That is where I see the real apathy in this country right now. Some people like what the government is doing, and seem to highly approve (even though what the government is doing is antithetical to the founding principles of the country). Some people are actively against what the government is doing, because it is antithetical to the founding principles of the country. The majority of people; however, seem to be in the camp of “I don’t care what the government does, it is going to do what it wants to, and I can’t do anything about it anyway, so big deal.”

      So all of the manufactured news, celebrity gossip, and outright crap they put on the “news” channels at least gives these people something to talk about and something to “care” about.

    • The excessiveness of the punishments is what makes these two incidents news-worthy. 45 days in a reformn school for a butter knife? For a six year old? All that zero tolerance policies have done is to allow school administrators to use absolutely NO brain power to enact punishments.

      If something like this happened in my sons school, I would asjk to see the Principal’s office to look for “potentially dangerous weapons” on this desk. Just little things like scissors, pens, pencils, staplers, heavy books. Hoist him on his own petard.

      • Maybe, but that’s not my issue in this post. I am interested here in figuring out why, when there’s one incidence of anything, the news feels the need to make a theme out of it report similar incidents ad nausium.

        I don’t think a kid getting sent to reform school is national news. Yes, stupid, yes it should be addressed, yes, there are zero-tolerance should be re-examined. But that’s irrelevant to this thread.

        Adding: Dante’s Peak and Volcano, Ed TV and Truman Show, Illusionist and The Prestige

        • v. Holland says:

          Beats me-but names work the same way-I named my girl child Kasey-thought I was being original but lo and behold she arrived at school to find out many of her class mates had the same name.-

  11. Common Man says:


    OK, I know that you have all heard me say that 99.9% of those non-representing representative’s in congress today are a complete waste, and should be dismissed, well…

    Here is one that I have checked out and think might be worth supporting. He is Congressman Mike Rogers of Michigan and he happens to be my district representative. He also happens to be a Republican, which is getting harder to find in Michigan these days. Anyway it is well worth the watch, because he doesn’t pull any punches.


    if it doesn’t post as a link it is well worth the effort to type it into your browser


  12. A little helpful video for anyone else with mother-in-law issues.

  13. PeterB in Indianapolis says:
    • I am always careful in the summer about leaving a drink in the sun too long.
      Wouldn’t want the ice to melt and overflow the glass. And a supposed scientist thinks SEA ICE melt will cause flooding?

      “Loss of sea ice cover will “set in motion powerful climate feedbacks which will have an impact far beyond the Arctic itself,” he added.

      “This could lead to flooding affecting one quarter of the world’s population, substantial increases in greenhouse gas emission from massive carbon pools and extreme global weather changes.”

      BTW, they had this on FOX also, without editing. So FOX does report some BS stories, same as the others.

      • PeterB in Indianapolis says:

        Pour a glass of water… add 2 ice cubes.

        Measure the total volume of water in the glass (water plus ice).

        Let the ice melt.

        Measure the total volume of water in the glass.

        Lo and behold… the volume is the SAME!

    • As they say, follow the money.

      Americans willing to look at the manmade global warming debate with any degree of impartiality and honesty are well aware that those spreading the hysteria have made a lot of money doing so, and stand to gain much more if governments mandate carbon dioxide emissions reductions.

      In fact, just two months ago, ABC estimated soon-to-be-Nobel Laureate Al Gore’s net worth at $100 million, which isn’t bad considering that he was supposedly worth about $1 million when he watched George W. Bush get sworn in as president in January 2001.

    • These aren’t those same British idiots our coast guard had to rescue from the non existent ice now are they?

      • Here they are:

        March 18, 2009, from AFP: Project director and ice team leader Pen Hadow and his colleagues, Martin Hartley and Ann Daniels, are now down to half rations and fighting to survive in brutal sub-zero weather conditions.

        Just a guess but they should have brought more food than sunblock?

        Another worth a look brought to you by Festinger:

        Eric Forsyth, captain of the eco-yacht Fiona, is alarmed:

        Within the next generation two problems of global proportions threaten the way of life as we now know it in the United States. They are:

        1. Global Climate Change
        2. Global Depletion of Fossil Fuel

        To alert the rest of us to this peril, he decides to sail through the fable North West Passage, highlighting the terrible ice melt in the Arctic.

        Small problem:

        AUGUST 17, 2009

        Last night, 16 Aug, we got hopelessly trapped by the ice. Despite a favorable ice report we encountered 8/10ths ice, with many old, i.e. large, bergs. We spent the night tied to one of them but had to leave this morning when another ‘berg collided with us and tipped Fiona over. We got away but the space around us is shrinking. I called the Canadian Coast Guard at noon and they are sending an icebreaker, due here tomorrow. We are NOT in immediate danger. Watch this space for developments.

  14. Morning All

    Just doing some reading for now.

    Have a good day.


  15. So, for those of you who haven’t jumped off the global warming train (I’m falling out the door as we speak, hope we’re not moving too fast), I was browsing this morning. The following charts are taken from people who strongly support global warming, but shown in a different, more perceptive manner. The first is the oft-cited “hockey stick” plot that shows a “disturbing” trend in the planet’s temperature.

    Now take a look at the CDIAC (carbon dioxide information analysis center) plot of carbon emissions.

    Looks like CO2 is the culprit, eh? But wait, lets take a closer look at the end of the hockey stick.

    Looks like a major jump in temperature happens before 1950. Now look back at the CO2 plot. A relatively small amount of CO2 emissions happened before and around 1950. Starting to get confused? So was I.

    I’m not sure how accurate their data is, but this is a rather interesting site.

  16. I think that what our govt has continued to do to try to support the economy is very misguided. They have wasted trillions of dollars bailing out creditors and shareholders of failed institutions with broken business models. And this is going to lead to massive problems down the road with regard to our currency and interest rates, in my opinion. And I think that the gold price breaking out to a new high is a strong indication of the reduction in faith and confidence that people have in governments and their fiat currencies. I recently read several good articles at that discuss the Federal Reserve’s easy monetary policies in order to try to prevent any sort of deflation from occurring and to try to reflate assets prices. One I found particularly interesting is called “Gold Price Up, Dollar Down – Does it Really Matter?” I think these articles are very helpful for any investor to read because they help to explain the investment implications for the dollar, the gold price, and gold mining companies who I believe will continue to benefit from central banks’ inflationary programs.

  17. ” The most dangerous criminal may be the man gifted with reason, but with no morals.”– Martin Luther King, Jr.

  18. Ambulance crew barred from helping girl, 9, with fractured skull ‘because they were having their lunch’

    Read more:

    This is awaits US medical systems –

    A spokesman for the South Western Ambulance Service Trust said it took its health and safety duties seriously.

    He added: ‘In line with national guidelines which must be adhered to by all ambulance trusts, it is important all staff have dedicated 30-minute rest breaks which cannot be interrupted”

    • Oh, Yes, by all means have lunch first, forget that there is a little girl who needs help. Don’t care that they came five minutes after the call, that’s not the point here. it’s the point, that, that little girl could have died waiting. Thank God she recovered.

    • That is actually a FSLA law…it does provide that if the break is interrupted, the employee has to be paid…would have been well worth it in this case.

      • Sounds like another zero tolerance rule for people who have no mind of their own. Why is common sense so uncommon?

  19. President Kennedy’s demand letter to Israeli Prime Minister to inspect Israel’s nuclear power plant.

    On 5 July, less than ten days after Levi Eshkol became prime minister, Ambassador Barbour delivered a 3-page letter to him from President John Kennedy. Not since President Eisenhower’s message to Ben Gurion, in the midst of the Suez crisis in November 1956, had an American president been so blunt with an Israeli prime minister. Kennedy told Eshkol that the American commitment and support of Israel ‘could be seriously jeopardized’ if Israel did not let the United States obtain ‘reliable information’ about Israel’s efforts in the nuclear field. In the letter Kennedy presented specific demands on how the American inspection visits to Dimona should be executed. Since the United States had not been involved in the building of Dimona and no international law or agreement had been violated, Kennedy demands were indeed unprecedented. They amounted, in effect, to American ultimatum.

  20. v. Holland says:

    (Oct. 14) — He comes to suck the blood out of your health care system.
    “Barakula” — a mask depicting President Barack Obama as a vampire — is among the politically haunting headgear on sale for Halloween, a holiday that seems these days to be just as much for adults as it is for kids.
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    He comes to suck your blood! This vampire version of the president — “Barakula” — puts a new spin on the health care debate. This $34.99 latex mask hit the market just after the president won the Nobel Peace Prize.

  21. Hi ya’ll

    Anyone following the balloon issue in Colorado with the missing 6 year old?


  22. A FIREMAN came home from work one day and told his wife,

    “You know, we have a wonderful system at the fire station:

    BELL 1 rings and we all put on our jackets,

    BELL 2 rings and we all slide down the pole,

    BELL 3 rings and we’re on the fire truck ready to go.

    “From now on when I say BELL 1,

    I want you to strip naked.

    When say BELL 2, I want you to jump in bed.

    And when I say BELL 3,

    we are going to make love all night.”

    The next night he came home from work and yelled,

    “BELL 1!” The wife promptly took all her clothes off.

    When he yelled “BELL 2!”,

    the wife jumped into bed.

    When he yelled “BELL 3!”,

    they began making love.

    After a few minutes the wife yelled

    “BELL 4!”

    “What the hell is BELL 4?” asked the husband?


    “ROLL OUT MORE HOSE,” she replied,


    Several years ago they did a study on why firemen break so many things. They took an experienced firefighter, locked him in a rubber room for a week with nothing but three bowling balls. After the week was up, they let him out and checked the bowling balls condition.
    One was missing, he didn’t know where it was.
    One was broken, he didn’t know how that happened.
    And the last one was pregnant.

    • A Louisiana State Trooper pulled a car over on US167 about 2
      miles south of the Louisiana/Arkansas State line.

      When the Trooper asked the driver why he was speeding, the
      driver said he was a magician and juggler and was on his way to
      Monroe to do a show at the Shrine Circus. He didn’t want to be late.

      The Trooper told the driver he was fascinated by juggling and
      asked if he driver would do a little juggling for him then he
      wouldn’t give him a ticket.

      He told the Trooper he had sent his equipment ahead and didn’t
      have anything to juggle.

      The Trooper said he had some flares in the trunk and asked if
      he could juggle them. The juggler said he could, so the Trooper got 3
      flares, lit them and handed them to him.

      While the man was juggling, a car pulled in behind the patrol
      car, a drunken good old boy from Arkansas got out, watched the
      performance, then went over to the patrol car, opened the rear door
      and got in.

      The Trooper observed him and went over to the patrol car,
      opened the door asking the drunk what he thought he was doing.

      The drunk replied, “You might as well take my ass to jail,
      cause there’s no way in hell I can pass that test.”

    • An 80-year old man goes to the doctor for a checkup.
      >> >
      >> > The doctor is amazed at what good shape the guy is
      >> > in and asks,”How do you stay in such great physical
      >> > condition?”
      >> >
      >> > I’m a golfer,” says the old guy, “and that’s why
      >> > I’m in such good shape. I’m up well before daylight
      >> > and out golfing up and down the fairways.”
      >> >
      >> > ” Well,” says the doctor, “I’m sure that helps,
      >> > but there’s got to be more to it. How old was your
      >> > dad when he died?”
      >> >
      >> > “Who said my dad’s dead?”
      >> >
      >> > The doctor is amazed. “You mean you’re 80 years old
      >> > and your dad’s still alive. How old is he?”
      >> >
      >> > “He’s 100 years old,” says the old golfer. “In fact
      >> > he golfed with me this morning, and that’s why he’s
      >> > still alive, he’s a golfer too.”
      >> >
      >> > “Well,” the doctor says, “that’s great, but I’m sure
      >> > there’s more to it than that. How about your dad’s dad?
      >> > How old was he when he died?”
      >> >
      >> > “Who said my grandpa’s dead?”
      >> >
      >> > Stunned, the doctor asks, “You mean you’re 80 years
      >> > old and your grandfathers still living! Incredible,
      >> > how old is he?”
      >> >
      >> > “He’s 118 years old,” says the old golfer.
      >> >
      >> > The doctor is getting frustrated at this point, “So,
      >> > I guess he went golfing with you this morning too?”
      >> >
      >> > “No. Grandpa couldn’t go this morning because he’s
      >> > getting married today.”
      >> >
      >> > At this point the doctor is close to losing it.
      >> > “Getting married!! Why would a 118 year-old guy want
      >> > to get married?”
      >> >
      >> > “Who said he wanted to?”
      >> >

  23. I havn’t heard of any troops going to Afganistan yet, each day they are without reinforcements, any of our soldiers killed I blame Obama, Well he wants Americans to be killed, now 80 little American kids died of the swing flu vaccine, I blame him when the people who make the vaccine refuse to take this. That in my humble opinion shows that this is lethal, letting children take it bad. I have had a bad cold and sore throat, rest, fluids, vitamins, Via. A not daily, just one dose, all help. brings up the infectious phlegm and I not ever sick. Lots of joint pain, but that is normal for me. So, we let the kids take the lethal doses and if they die, he should be happy, I notice his 2 fine young girls are not taking this vaccine, or Michelle, is she? Something suppose to happen today, not sure exactly what but we will see.

  24. Things are alittle slow tonight. So, to foster some discussion I’m pasting an email I received this morning. I am not an expert on anything Isreal, or the person mentioned, but it is a good read. Black Flag, with your knowledge on alot of this, your input would be greatly appreciated.


    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie ‘ Munich ‘ was based. He was Golda Meir’s bodyguard — she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

    In a lecture in New York City a few weeks ago, he shared information that EVERY American needs to know — but that our government has not yet shared with us.

    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O’Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O’Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. But, unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.

    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.

    Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.

    Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke — that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

    For example:

    1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can’t bring liquids on board. He says he’s waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked! Every strategy we have is reactionary.

    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.

    Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel , security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.

    Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (i. e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc. ) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as rural America this time (Wyoming, Montana, etc. ).

    The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas..

    Aviv says terrorists won’t need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas , they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.

    Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U.S. government does not want to ‘alarm American citizens’ with the facts. The world is quickly going to become ‘a different place’, and issues like ‘global warming’ and ‘political correctness’ will become totally irrelevant.

    On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don’t have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It’s cheap, it’s easy, it’s effective; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to ‘meet their destiny’.

    He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, ‘homegrown’ — having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for ‘students’ who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East. These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won’t know/understand a thing about them.

    Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will, inevitably, face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.

    So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel’s, Ireland’s and England’s hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to trust ‘aware’ citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U.S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, ‘like babies’. Our government thinks we ‘can’t handle the truth’ and are concerned that we’ll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.

    Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago , someone tried to steal the briefcase!

    In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well ‘trained’ that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, ‘Unattended Bag! ‘ The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves. But, unfortunately, America hasn’t been ‘hurt enough’ by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it’s their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.

    Families & Children:

    Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were ‘lost’ without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City , this was days, in some cases! )

    He stresses the importance of having a plan, that’s agreed upon within your family, to respond to in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children’s schools and demand that the schools, too, develop plans of actions, as they do in Israel .

    Does your family know what to do if you can’t contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

    Aviv says that the U.S. government has in force a plan that, in the event of another terrorist attack, will immediately cut off EVERYONE’s ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc. , as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated. How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak? You need to have a plan.

    If you believe what you have just read, then you must feel compelled to send to every concerned parent or guardian, grandparents, uncles, aunts, whatever and whomever. Nothing will happen if you choose not to do so, but in the event it does happen, this particular email will haunt you. . .. “I should have sent this to. . . . .. ”


  25. Here’s alittle music that is rarely heard.

  26. v. Holland says:

    This is the woman that JAC pointed out yesterday.

    First woman wins Nobel Economics
    (01:58) Report

    Oct. 12 – Elinor Ostrom — an American professor who developed ways to manage common property — is the first woman to win the Nobel prize for economics.

    Elinor Ostrom, Professor and recipient of Nobel Prize for Economics

    Jon Decker, Reuters.

  27. For those who live in California.

    Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Restricting Ammunition Sales in California
    October 12, 2009

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    SACRAMENTO, Calif. – Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law legislation that bans all mail-order and internet sales of handgun ammunition in the state, as well as other regulations.

    In a statement, Schwarzenegger said, “I am signing Assembly Bill 962. This measure would require vendors of handgun ammunition to keep a log of information on handgun ammunition sales, store ammunition in a safe and secure manner, and require the face to-face transfer of ammunition sales.”

    The statement also said, “As governor, I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns.

    AB962 would also:

    * Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a vendor or employee.
    * Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee. That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes:
    1. The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee.
    2. The date of the sale or other transaction.
    3. The purchaser’s or transferee’s driver’s license or other identification number and the state in which it was issued.
    4. The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred.
    5. The purchaser’s or transferee’s signature.
    6. The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction.
    7. The purchaser’s or transferee’s full residential address and telephone number.
    8. The purchaser’s or transferee’s date of birth.

  28. Good morning to all. I am very relieved the balloon boy is OK. Found this story interesting, going back to Obama’s statement about knowing him by who he surrounds himself with.

    White House Communications Director Anita Dunn, who had previously slammed Fox News and called it an organ of the Republican Party. In the video, Dunn reveals her two favorite political philosophers – humanitarian Mother Teresa and Mao Tse Tung, Chinese revolutionary and Communist leader responsible for an estimated 70 million deaths.

    According to Beck, Dunn has said she is leaving at the end of the year.

  29. Good Morning All

    And the deficit just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

  30. v. Holland says:

    This is an old story but I am always amazed by the things that animals do.

    Dog saves abandoned baby from forest
    The dog was looking for food for her newborn puppies when she reportedly saved a 2-week-old baby girl from a forest in Kenya.
    Kenya, Africa
    The dog found the baby in a forest south of the capital Nairobi. She then took the infant, wrapped in a dirty, black cloth, and carried it across a busy road and through a barbed-wire fence and placed it close to her own puppies.

    A witness, Stephen Thoya says: “I heard the sound of a baby crying, (when) I looked closely, I saw a dog carrying a baby as it crossed the road.”

    The owner of the heroic dog, Mary Adhiambo says her dog lay next to the baby and cared for it until it was spotted by human rescuers. Ms Adhiambo washed the baby who’s umbilical chord was covered with maggots. After cleaning the baby Mary Adhiambo rushed it to hospital.

    The newborn baby girl, who was resqued by a dog

    At the hospital, the 3.3 kilogram child was christened Angel. Doctors confirmed the newborn baby girl had been out in the open for at least two days after being abandoned.

    Dr Jonathan Micheni said: “An infant of such a tender age, having spent two nights in the cold, is likely to develop respiratory infections and we have put her on a treatment to prevent any bacterial or fungal infections.”

    These kinds of incidents in which babies are abandoned are very common in East African countries like Kenya, where over 56% of the population lives on less than US $1 a day.

    This is ultimate proof that dogs realy are a man’s best friend!

    • That is amazing. Kinda in the mood for positive stories today.

      • HI

        Me too, I’ve had enough sadness for the week. Time for some lighter moments, but I don’t have any right now, anybody else.

        BTW, That was a great story about the dog. Hope he gets a medal for that.


  31. Richmond Spitfire says:

    The ingenuity of youngsters!


  32. What is your political IQ?

    I got 11/12 – but I disagree with their answer. I said 15% unemployment, they say it is closer to 10%. BS, I say!

  33. v. Holland says:

    Couple make burglar clean their home at gunpoint
    An American couple turned the tables on a burglar they caught ransacking their home by dispensing their own summary justice.

    Without waiting for the law to arrive, the pair doled out their own punishment to the surprised criminal – they made him clean up the house at gunpoint!

    The unlucky burglar was caught red-handed when Adrian and Tiffany McKinnon returned to their house near Montgomery, Alabama, after a week away.

    To their dismay they discovered their home had been plundered.
    “Tears just rolled down my face as I walked in and saw everything gone and piles of trash all over my home,” Mrs. McKinnon told her local newspaper the Montgomery Advertiser.

    When her husband walked into another room to check what was missing he came face to face with the burglar, who was wearing one of Mr. McKinnon’s hats.

    “My husband Adrian caught the thief red-handed in our home. And what is even crazier, the man even had my husband’s hat sitting right on his head,” Mrs. McKinnon said.

    Mr. McKinnon held suspect Tajuan Bullock at gunpoint and made him sit down until he decided what to do.

    “We made this man clean up all the mess he made, piles of stuff, he had thrown out of my drawers and cabinets onto the floor,” Mrs. McKinnon said.

    When the police arrived the work-shy burglar had the cheek to complain to them – about having to clean up his mess at gunpoint.

    “This man had the nerve to raise sand about us making him clean up the mess he made in my house,” said Mrs McKinnon.

    But the police officer laughed at Bullock when he complained and told him that anybody else would have shot him dead.

    Bullock was arrested on burglary and theft charges and was held in Montgomery County Detention Facility.

    A police spokesman said the victims were lucky to be able to catch the suspect in the act and hold him until police arrived. It was an unusual case because usually burglars struck while the homeowner was away and were in and out fast so they could quickly sell the stolen items, the spokesman added.

    He HE Don’t you just love it!

    • Richmond Spitfire says:

      You know V….I really do love it…

      Being the cynic that I am, I anticipate that the criminal will bring a civil suit with punitive damages awarded against the couple for:

      1. He wasn’t reimbursed for performing the couple a service; he’ll be awarded minimum wage x hours (or fraction thereof) that he cleaned until the police arrived.
      2. He was held at gunpoint, therefore he was frightened and $hit his pants – he’ll get punitive damages for being frightened and $2.50 for dry-cleaning of his underwear.
      3. He’ll swear that he pulled a muscle in his back when cleaning the mess he made, so he’ll locate an Acorn-recommended physician and lawyer to get punitive damages for that for pain and suffering.

      Best Regards and am hoping all have a wonderful day! To echo Judy…TGIF!!!!!!


      • v. Holland says:

        “Illusions commend themselves to us because they save us pain and allow us to enjoy pleasure instead. We must therefore accept it without complaint when they sometimes collide with a bit of reality against which they are dashed to pieces. ~Sigmund Freud”

        “Reality bites… and doesn’t let go.” ~Author Unknown

      • Humankind cannot bear very much reality. ~T.S. Eliot

  34. v. Holland says:

    Parrot squawks on cheating lover’s affair
    A devastated Englishman learned the horrible truth that his girlfriend was cheating on him – straight from his pet parrot’s mouth.

    Chris Taylor’s parrot Ziggy began squawking “Hiya, Gary” every time his girlfriend Suzy Collins’s mobile phone rang.

    The African Grey also made kiss noises each time it heard the name Gary on television or radio.

    At first amused owner Mr Taylor, a computer programmer, dismissed it as something the bird had picked up watching TV.

    But then he snuggled up beside Suzy on the sofa in their flat in Leeds and Ziggy cried out in Suzy’s voice “I love you, Gary.” The cat was finally out of the bag.

    Call-center worker Ms Collins, 25, broke down in tears and confessed to having a four-month fling with a former colleague. She had met her lover in the flat while Ziggy looked on.

    Her confession ended their two-year relationship. It also led to 30-year-old Mr Taylor parting company with his pet – because it kept screeching out her lover’s name.

    Mr Taylor wasn’t sorry to see the back of Suzy after what she did, he said. But it really broke his heart to part with eight-year-old Ziggy which he had bought as a chick.

    “I lost my girlfriend and best mate at the same time. But it was torture hearing him repeat that name Gary over and over,” he said.

    Mr Taylor named the parrot after Ziggy Stardust, David Bowie’s alter ego. It learned to reproduce the line “Put on your red shoes and dance the blue!” from the Bowie song Let’s Dance.

    Ziggy has since found a new home with the help of a local parrot dealer.

    Mr. Taylor in my opinion is an ungrateful wimp.

  35. Hope everybody will have a good day today.



  36. v. Holland says:

    “A British bank had to apologise to a customer after they sent him a debit card bearing the name “Mr Dick Head”. Very embarrassingly for the card owner, he did not spot the mistake until he tried to buy something at a supermarket.” 🙂

  37. $400 per gallon gas to drive debate over cost of war in Afghanistan

    The Pentagon pays an average of $400 to put a gallon of fuel into a combat vehicle or aircraft in Afghanistan.

    The statistic is likely to play into the escalating debate in Congress over the cost of a war that entered its ninth year last week.

  38. (Now I do find this amusing. Peter’s #13 post on more global warming showed a little how silly these alarmists are, turns out they are the restrained ones.)

    Without Drastic CO2 Cuts Immediately, the World Faces a Massive ‘Oh Shit’ Moment

    By Mark Hertsgaard, The Nation. Posted October 15, 2009.

    (Here’s what one of them has to say, notice the readers rated it a 5, excellent)

    Posted by: willymack on Oct 15, 2009 9:28 AM
    Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]

    We’ve ALREADY blown it. Big time.
    The only question remaining is how horrible the coming disaster will be.
    Will we somehow survive our maniflod follies, only to begin the whole process anew, emerge as a wiser, more humble species, or eke out a grim existence, using Soylent Green to sustain us?
    We, with the big brains loudly proclaiming our “superiority” over lifeforms which have susvived natural catastrophes for tens of millions of years are on the cusp of mass suicide, and will most likely take some of the most noble creatures ever to grace this beautiful, tragic world with us.

    • (Was trying to find out how many years they have predicted the north pole would be ice free(usually use the same picture taken from the window of a plane showing ice flows and open water). Found this instead.)

      What can one conclude from 110 years of conflicting climate coverage except that the weather changes and the media are just as capricious?

      Certainly, their record speaks for itself. Four separate and distinct climate theories targeted at a public taught to believe the news. Only all four versions of the truth can’t possibly be accurate.

      For ordinary Americans to judge the media’s version of current events about global warming, it is necessary to admit that journalists have misrepresented the story three other times.

      Yet no one in the media is owning up to that fact. Newspapers that pride themselves on correction policies for the smallest errors now find themselves facing a historical record that is enormous and unforgiving.

      It is time for the news media to admit a consistent failure to report this issue fairly or accurately, with due skepticism of scientific claims.

    • v. Holland says:

      Seems rather sad that their concern for the earth and it’s people is what’s causing our economic collapse which just might lead to the dire consequences the man is worried about.

      • True, but the politicians are not pushing this to save the planet.
        They are trying to fulfill their agenda goals, which also lead to economic collapse. I have thought of a NEW name!!! These people remind me of Elmer Fudd, being fooled again and again by Buggs Bunny and Daffey Duck.

        They are Fuddies!!!(tm)

  39. U.S. Bullion Banks Short 32+ Million Ounces of Gold

    Also a couple of informative graphs comparing current gold price with the inflation-adjusted historical prices.

    It looks like the current price should be $2000 – $7000/oz, depending on the urgency around the US$ currency.

    Also interesting info – that all the open short position are held by about 4 bullion banks vs. 6,000 open long position on the exchange.

    The elites are losing the war….

    • I don’t know, somehow I think Goldman-Sachs will still come out ahead.

      Something for you Flagster,

      MARS is a lighter-than-air tethered wind turbine that rotates about a horizontal axis in response to wind, generating electrical energy. This electrical energy is transferred down the 1000-foot tether for immediate use, or to a set of batteries for later use, or to the power grid. Helium sustains MARS and allows it to ascend to a higher altitude than traditional wind turbines. MARS captures the energy available in the 600 to 1000-foot low level and nocturnal jet streams that exist almost everywhere

  40. v. Holland says:
  41. Here is an interesting article about global warming.

    • Well written. Still tends to support warming overall. Another article.

      Cambridge, MA – A review of more than 200 climate studies led by researchers at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics has determined that the 20th century is neither the warmest century nor the century with the most extreme weather of the past 1000 years. The review also confirmed that the Medieval Warm Period of 800 to 1300 A.D. and the Little Ice Age of 1300 to 1900 A.D. were worldwide phenomena not limited to the European and North American continents. While 20th century temperatures are much higher than in the Little Ice Age period, many parts of the world show the medieval warmth to be greater than that of the 20th century.

      (The Medieval Warm Period reached the 1.5 C warmer temp. that they say we will reach by 2100.)

  42. Forest Service Complaints

    These are (supposedly) actual comments left last year on Forest Service registration sheets and comment cards by backpackers completing wilderness camping trips:

    “A small deer came into my camp and stole my bag of pickles. Is there a way I can get reimbursed? Please call.”

    “Escalators would help on steep uphill sections.”

    “Instead of a permit system or regulations, the Forest Service needs to reduce worldwide population growth to limit the number of visitors to wilderness.”

    “Trails need to be wider so people can walk while holding hands.”

    “Ban walking sticks in wilderness. Hikers that use walking stick are more likely to chase animals.”

    “All the mile markers are missing this year.”

    “Found a smoldering cigarette left by a horse.”

    “Trails need to be reconstructed. Please avoid building trails that go uphill.”

    “Too many bugs and leeches and spiders and spider webs. Please spray the wilderness to rid the area of these pests.”

    “Please pave the trails so they can be plowed of snow in the winter.”

    “Chairlifts need to be in some places so that we can get to wonderful views without having to hike to them.”

    “The coyotes made too much noise last night and kept me awake. Please eradicate these annoying animals.”

    “Reflectors need to be placed on trees every 50 feet so people can hike at night with flashlights.”

    “Need more signs to keep area pristine.”

    • Love the one about finding a smoldering cigarette left by the horse. Kind of makes you wonder about people doesn’t it.

      Where is everybody today?

    • I was perhaps 9 years old when it happened.

      I had a terrible habit as a kid to want to sleep in until the last possible moment. Ok, who am I kidding? I still do that. I’m usually about 30 seconds late for work everyday. But when I was a kid, this drove my mother to the brink of sanity. She put up with it for a long time, always managing to get me roused and dressed, books in hand and out the door for school just in the nick of time. Sometimes she’d peek her head in my bedroom door every 10 minutes and check in, making sure I was on track. And generally I managed to get myself together with seconds to spare. But there WAS that one time…

      Mom: “Sweetie, it’s time to get up and get dressed.”
      Me: “Uhhhhaaaaaaaaaaamffff…”

      Mom: “Honey, we have to leave at 7:30 if we’re going to get you to school on time. Please get up and start getting dressed or you won’t have time for breakfast!”
      Me: “Ushdfgakjasgh…”

      Mom: “Justin, get out of bed. I mean it. You’re already going to be pressed for time to eat breakfast. We’re leaving at 7:30, whether you’re ready or not.”
      Me: “Arrrrggghh…Ok, I’m up, I’m up.”

      Mom: “Sweetie, are you dressed yet? I’ve got your breakfast ready…”
      Me: “Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz…”
      Mom: “DAMN IT! Wake UP and get READY!!! I swear to you Justin, we’re leaving here at 7:30. I don’t care if you miss your breakfast. I don’t care if you aren’t dressed for school.”
      Me: “Ok, sorry…sorry. I’m up.”

      Mom: “Are you still awake? Good…why aren’t you dressed? Get dressed NOW or you’re going in your underwear.”
      Me: “Ok.”

      Mom: “Alright, let’s go. Grab your backpack.”
      Me: “But Mom, I’m not ready…”
      Mom: “Tough.”

      She grabbed me by the arm and escorted me out the front door. No shoes, no shirt, not a stitch of clothing besides my tighty whities. She held me by the wrist and led me to the car. I can’t remember this very clearly because I was somewhat upset. I do remember that I was crying uncontrollably. Likely pleading and begging in some fashion. She put me in the back seat, got in, and drove away casually as if nothing in the world was out of place. And as I began to calm somewhat, I sat, mostly naked and full of fear, in the back seat pondering my next move. I didn’t have any more outs. I had no clothing and no plan. I was fucked. I was going to school in my underwear.

      Never once did it cross my mind that this could be a bluff. My mother didn’t bluff. She wasn’t turning the car around. Heck, we were halfway to school already! Here I was, in my undies and headed toward certain ridicule and major embarrassment of the worst kind, the ridicule of grade-school peers. And all because I’d chosen to sleep when I should have been getting dressed. When I should have been enjoying a nutritious breakfast. I slept this upon myself. I had learned my lesson. It wouldn’t happen again. I’d always get up from now on at first call. Various other reasoning and begging followed. I gazed into the rearview mirror, looking her in the eyes. I grovelled. And she stared back and me, cold and firm in her resolution.

      We pulled into the driveway of my school, and up the lane to the front doors; the main car-rider drop off point. My mother didn’t even put the car in park. She just looked at me expectantly in the rearview. Not a speck of emotion. “Well?…,” said her eyes. I began to cry again. She put the car in park, killed the engine, unfastened her seatbelt, and got out. I was completely prepared. I had mentally readied myself to be dragged from the car, in a cliched kicking and screaming fashion. My mother went around back of the car and opened the trunk, from which she removed a brown paper grocery bag. She came back around to the side and opened my door. She stood there looking at me, like I was the worst child ever. And she handed me the brown bag with my clothes inside. “Get dressed.”

      Twas indeed the last time I ever failed to hearken to my mother’s wakeup call.

      • That sounds exactly like my oldest son and the way he used to be, thank God he’s older now and living on his own. I did the same thing to him because he wouldn’t/couldn’t get up on time. Only difference is, he went in his jammies.

      • v. Holland says:

        This Mom has a lot of patience-took her 30 minutes to get to the yelling stage-I once threw water in my son’s face-He got up and I didn’t wait 30 minutes. My Dad’s method was to turn on the intercom with very loud music-only difference was he didn’t even bother to ask us to get up first-just very loud music-of course I had 3 sisters so it saved him a lot of time.

    • And these poeple probably vote. Any guess as to who they might have voted for in the last election???? Sheeesh.

  43. Get ready to pay more for your health coverage
    Employers overhaul health plans to shift more cost to employees

  44. Israel should reflect. Obama’s patience is not endless. Losing Turkey is one thing. To risk losing America is quite another.

  45. Hi Ya’ll!

    Little rant about today. Got up 5:30 am, brush teeth, let dogs out, turn on local news to see how many people were shot overnight, turn on computer, get food for dogs, let them in, make cup of coffee. First 5 minutes complete, lets see what’s going on on the internet. 25 minutes pass, not much to read, take shower, let dogs out again, then back in, make big cup of coffee for work. Damn, it’s fricken snowing! Start truck to let warm up, go get coffee, work keys, pager, cell phone, small notebook, work ID, box cutter, chap stick and rolaids (just in case). Still fricken snowing, it’s 6:40 off to work, arive 7 minutes later park, clock in, print pictures of two women in thongs for binder for the guys. Log on to e-mail. Start work, oh darn, I did it all yesterday, and the day drags on like a 16 hour car ride through Kansas farm country.

    It’s cold, rainy, gloomy. Not much on the internet. Find a 911 call that was released about the 15 year old who had alcohol thrown on him and lit on fire. DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS!

    So it’s been a bad day! Home now, cold beer in hand, woodburner kickin!

    How the heck was your day!


    • Hey G

      Sounds like one of those days for ya.

      I got up at 5:20, got cleaned up, went down to feed cats, and dog, got coffee, shit ran out of coffeemate. Had to drink coffee black . YUCK! Got paper, went through headlines, saw 3 or 4 more got killed in Afghanistan, thought, oh great more, haven’t had enough of that this week, as you know. Took a shower, did my hair and went on computer and had a crap load of stuff on there I had to go through. Finished getting myself ready for work, came in, had a couple things to do, now bored. Won’t be leaving for at least another hour. Have more laundry to do, that’s exciting. Think I’ll get me some tequila and have a few shots myself, then I won’t care what the fudge is going on. Has not been a good week. Too much news on our local guy that got killed in Afghan, and it took it’s toll on me. Can’t deal with anymore.

      That’s been my week and day today.


      • I’m hoping that there can be some good talk tonight, I have nothing to do at all. Carefull with the hard liquor, last time My Uncle came over we ahd some moonshine, I went to the bathroom, never came back, he left his coat and shoes here and went home with my slippers on! We still laugh about that one!

    • G!

      I’ve been to Kansas, know what you mean. Seems every other of your morning wake-up involves coffee. Reminds me of the Drew Carey show, where they invented Buzz Beer, beer combined with coffee.

      • I’m not the best morning person (I have to fake it when I post early, LOL). Coffee is a staple in the AM, beer in the evenings. I don’t like days that are slow at work, rather keep busy. I follow things here at work thru email, but can’t post, it helps during the slow periods. My job is like feast or famine daily. But, I do like it.


        • Well at least you have one. Mine is depleted in 2 weeks, then I don’t know. Maybe take the rest of the year off, then go looking again after the first, not sure. Depends if I don’t lose my mind first. Well see what comes first, me losing my mind, or finding a new job. AT least a part time like I do now.

          Maybe you can do some DJ tonight, but please not too many of that head banging stuff, I can’t take that, nit anymore. NO, I take that back, not any time could I take that. You know what I like, country, mellow, soft rock, classic, a little R & B, take your pick.

  46. Hi Black Flag,

    I need your thoughts on something. My friend who was born in China but is a US citizen, is going to China in December to visit her family. I asked her to get me $200 worth of yuan. I consider this a small amount of insurance against a dollar crash, especially if I’m still on this island. I have some silver coins on the way as part of my insurance. My friend has offered to take that $200 and open an account in my name in China. I will be able to administer that account on line. I have no idea what I would do with it. She told me that her mother has already opened an account for her with the same set up. I can see how this is beneficial to my friend who is Chinese. I don’t see how it helps me unless I plan to relocate to China. I don’t speak Chinese. I’ve tried. It didn’t go so well, but I didn’t have much incentive other than providing entertainment for my friend. If I found myself living in China, I might try harder ;), but I digress. I know that the US Government gets in on the overseas bank account action when real money is involved. I don’t have much money to stash in China. So my question to you is, what would be the advantages of having an account in China? Could I ever find myself living in China? Who knows. I’ll go with ‘never say never’. Thanks.

    • 1) What are the monthly fees?
      2) What is your goal in establishing a Chinese banking relationship?

      ++) I urge a bit of caution – international money laundering laws are tyrannical and having your friend set up an account for you to use may cross some legal line.

      Usually setting up an account requires documentation, such as a passport and a ‘letter of reference’ (sometimes two or three) from your current bank(s) (stating you have been a customer for X years and are in good standing), for the beneficial owner (which is you). If she uses her name, but you are the beneficiary, this may trigger unwanted government legal attention.

      If the fees are (near) zero – and you don’t trip into a legal mangling, then, yes, $200 to set up an offshore account is a good idea….. because you never know.

      You will begin to create a bank history with this bank – even at $200, 5 years from now you can use THIS bank for reference letter to open a new bank account somewhere else (and not expose it to US banking authorities by using a US bank reference).

      As well, it may become more difficult to set up banking relationships, but usually in all matters, current accounts are grandfathered. This may make your account – in the future – very valuable.

      • Thanks BF. I hadn’t thought of monthly fees or the ‘goal’ of having a Chinese account. All I wanted was my ‘insurance’ yuan. My friend said she would get more information for me. I presume her mother was able to provide documentation for my friend’s account. My friend’s mother wouldn’t know me on the street. I definately don’t want to be running afoul of the money laundering laws. There is an American school teacher on island that came here from China. I could ask her what she knows about this. She may have more information and the pespective of someone who lived in China. More information is good. Thanks again!

  47. Proof That The World Is Nuts

    In Lebanon , men are legally allowed to have sex with animals, but the animals must be female. Having sexual relations with a male animal is punishable by death.

    (Like THAT makes sense.)


    In Bahrain , a male doctor may legally examine a woman’s genitals, but is prohibited from looking directly at them during the examination. He may only see their reflection in a mirror.

    (Do they look different reversed?)


    Muslims are banned from looking at the genitals of a corpse. This also applies to undertakers. The sex organs of the deceased must be covered with a brick or piece of wood at all times.

    (A brick?)


    The penalty for masturbation in Indonesia is decapitation.

    (Much worse than “going blind!”)


    There are men in Guam whose full-time job is to travel the countryside

    And deflower young virgins, who pay

    Them for the privilege of having sex

    For the first time

    Reason: under Guam law, it is expressly forbidden for virgins to marry.

    (Let’s just think for a minute; is there

    Any job anywhere else in the world that even comes close to this?)


    In Hong Kong , a betrayed wife is legally allowed to kill her adulterous husband, but may only do so with her bare hands.

    The husband’s illicit lover, on the other hand, may be killed in any manner desired.

    (Ah! Justice!)


    Topless saleswomen are legal in Liverpool , England – but only in tropical fish stores.

    (But of course!)


    In Cali , Colombia , a woman may only have sex with her husband, and the first time this happens, her mother must be in the room to witness the act.

    (Makes one shudder at the thought.)


    In Santa Cruz , Bolivia , it is illegal for a man to have sex with a woman and her daughter at the same time.

    (I presume this was a big enough problem that they had to pass this law?)


    In Maryland , it is illegal to sell condoms from vending machines with one exception: Prophylactics may be dispensed from a vending machine only “in places where alcoholic beverages are sold for consumption on the premises.”

    (Is this a great country or what?

    Well, not as great as Guam !)


    Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

    (Who volunteers for this stuff?)


    Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure.

    (Is that why Flipper was always smiling?)


    The ant can lift 50 times its own weight, can pull 30 times its own weight and

    Always falls over on its right side When intoxicated.

    (From drinking little bottles of???)

    (Did the government pay For this research??)


    Butterflies taste with their feet.

    (Ah, geez.)


    An ostrich’s eye is bigger than its brain.

    (I know some people like that.)


    Starfish don’t have brains.

    (I know some people like that, too.)


    And, the best for last?

    Turtles can breathe through their butts.

    (And I thought I had bad Breath in the morning!)

      >>>Marine Corps General Reinwald was interviewed on the radio the other
      >>>you’ll love his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning
      >>>children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you gotta love
      >>>This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion
      >>>National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a female broadcaster
      >>>US Marine
      >>>Corps General Reinwald who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop
      >>>visiting his
      >>> military installation.
      >>>FEMALE INTERVIEWER: So, General Reinwald, what things are you going
      >>>these young boys when they visit your base?
      >>>GENERAL REINWALD: We’re going to teach them climbing, canoeing,
      >>>FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Shooting! That’s a bit irresponsible, isn’t it?
      >>>GENERAL REINWALD: I don’t see why, they’ll be properly supervised on
      >>>rifle range.
      >>>FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Don’t you admit that this is a terribly
      >>>activity to be teaching children?
      >>>GENERAL REINWALD: I don’t see how. We will be teaching them proper
      >>>discipline before they even touch a firearm.
      >>>FEMALE INTERVIEWER: But you’re equipping them to become violent
      >>>GENERAL REINWALD: Well, Ma’am, you’re equipped to be a prostitute,
      >>>you’re not one, are you?
      >>>The radio went silent and the interview ended.
      >>>You gotta love the Marines!

    • I can’t resist.

      The reason Washington D.C has not been made a state:

      An ostrich’s eye is bigger than its brain.

      (I know some people like that.)

    • Anger Management

      Here is an anger management tip:
      When you occasionally have a really bad day, and you just need to take it out on someone, don’t take it out on someone you know, take it out on someone you don’t know.
      It all started one day when I was sitting at my desk and remembered a phone call I had forgotten to make. I found the number and dialed it.
      A man answered, saying, “Hello.”
      I politely said, “This is Chris. May I please speak with Robin Carter?”
      Suddenly, the phone was slammed down on me. I couldn’t believe that anyone could be so rude.
      I tracked down Robin’s correct number and called her. I had transposed the last two digits of her phone number. After hanging up with her, I decided to call the ‘wrong’ number again.
      When the guy answered the phone, I yelled, “You’re an ass!” and hung up.
      I wrote his number down with the word ‘ass’ next to it, and put it in my desk drawer. Every couple of weeks, when I was paying bills or had a really bad day, I’d call him up and yell, “You’re an ass!” It always cheered me up.
      When Caller ID came to our area, I thought my therapeutic ‘ass’ calling would have to stop.
      So, I called his number and said: “His, this is John Smith from the Telephone Company. I’m just calling to see if you’re interested in the Caller ID program?” He yelled “NO!” and slammed the phone down.
      I quickly called him back and said, “That’s because you’re an ass!”
      (Don’t stop reading now–it does get better!)
      On day I was at the store, getting ready to pull into a parking spot. Some guy in a black BMW cut me off and pulled into the spot I had patiently waited for. I hit the horn and yelled that I had been waiting for the spot. The idiot ignored me. I noticed a “For Sale” sign in his car window, so I wrote down his number.
      A couple of days later, right after calling the first ass (I had his number on speed dial), I thought I had better call the BMW ass, too.
      I said, “Is this the man with the black BMW for sale?”
      “Yes, it is.”
      “Can you tell me where I can see it?”
      “Yes. I live at 1802 West 34th Street. It’s a yellow house, and the car’s parked right out in front.”
      “What’s your name?”
      “My name is Don Burgemeyer,” he said.
      “When’s a good time to catch you, Don?”
      “I’m home every evening after five.”
      “Listen, Don, can I tell you something?”
      “Don, you’re an ass.”
      Then I hung up and added his number to my speed dial, too. Now, when I had a problem, I had two asses to call. But after several months of calling them, it wasn’t as enjoyable as it used to be. So, I came up with an idea.
      I called ASS #1.
      “You’re and ass!” (But I didn’t hang up.)
      “Are you still there?” he asked.
      Yeah,” I said.
      “Stop calling me” he screamed.
      “Make me” I screamed back.
      “Who are you?” he demanded.
      “My name is Don Burgemeyer.”
      “Yeah? Where do you live?”
      “I live at 1802 West 34th Street, ASSHOLE!” It’s a yellow house, with my black beemer parked in front.”
      He said, “I’m coming over there right now, Don. And you better start saying your prayers.”
      I said, “Yeah, like I’m really scared, ass.”
      Then I called ASS #2.
      “Hello?” he said.
      “Hello ass.” I said…again, without hanging up.
      He yelled, “If I ever find out who you are..”
      “Yeah, you’ll what?” I said.
      I’ll kick your ass” he exclaimed.
      I answered, “Well, ass, here’s your chance. I’m coming over right now.”
      Then I hung up and immediately called the police, saying that I lived at 1802 West 34th Street, and that I was on my way home to kill my gay lover.
      Then I called the Cannel 9 News to let them know about the war going down on West 34th Street. I quickly got into my car and headed over to 34th Street.
      There I saw two asses beating the crap out of each other in front of six squad cars, a police helicopter, and a news crew.
      NOW, I feel better. Anger management really works.

    • Santa was very cross. It was Christmas Eve and NOTHING was going right.m

      Mrs. Claus had burned all the cookies.

      The elves were complaining about not getting paid for the overtime they had while making the toys.

      The reindeer had been playing their reindeer games all afternoon and were dead tired.

      To make matters worse, Rudolph had taken the sleigh out for a spin earlier in the day and had crashed it into a tree.

      Santa was furious. “I can’t believe it! I’ve got to deliver millions of presents all over the world in just a few hours and all of my reindeer are sleeping, the elves are on strike and I don’t even have a Christmas tree yet! I sent that stupid Little Angel out HOURS ago to find a tree and he isn’t even back yet! What am I going to do?”

      Just then, the Little Angel opened the front door and stepped in from the snowy night, dragging a Christmas tree. He says, “Yo, fat Santa man! Where do you want me to stick the tree this year?”

      And thus the tradition of angels atop the Christmas trees came to pass…

  48. One of our greatest strengths as people is the ablilty to overcome adversity. Life happens, to us all, this is a super video from 2006 that I think all will enjoy, and it might touch your heart a little.

    Listen closley to the intro!


    • Testing an idea to see if it works, again

      • it worked!!! Just not sure why yet?

        • What a great video G, Made my eyes water up.

          • Yea, that is touching, what a horse!

            VH seems to be a big JT fan, he put out some good stuff.

            I see a trend starting, alot of heated debate, then some good music to calm the nerves. I vote that they go together quite well!


            • Well, I say lets not have a heated debate tonight, lets have a more pleasant night, I can really use one. Don’t know if you saw my song request above. Go look, PLEASE.

            • Amazing thing, On a politcal blog, doing video music cuz things are alittle slow on a Friday night! Only in America!

              • Where else can you do this? Thanks so much G, something about that song. I have always loved that song and nobody can do it like Roberta can. I think maybe later I am going to put down here exactly how I fell about everybody here. You don’t know how much I have come to think how all here have affected my life in some way or another. Don’t worry, it’s all good at what I have to say. I just hope that most will see what I have said. I will do it later, when things are more quiet around here.

              • Thanks Judy!

                I’ve been gettin impatient with things and the lack of decisions about Afganistan. Get them out, or let’s get it done.

              • Below

              • v. Holland says:

                That was really moving G and I agree fight to win or bring our babies home.

  49. v. Holland says:

    I woke up today in the mood to just kick back and relax-I am really enjoying the calm but want to take a moment to laugh-hope this effects you guys the way it does me. Puts a smile on my face immediately.

  50. Now, why did you go and do that? You got me all teared up again. I’m thinking of PFC Kevin Thompson and his funeral that takes place tomorrow. I can’t being myself to go tomorrow, don’t think I would hold up too well. I did go to the florist yesterday, and got a really nice arrangement to send to the mortuary tomorrow. His funeral will be at 11 a.m. at Mt View Mortuary, but burial will be held out in Fernely which is about a half hour away. For what I understand, he will be having full Military honors. BTW, I signed the card with out last name, and yours. I told you dad I would do that.

    When I stopped at the store where he worked today, I felt kind of strange being there knowing he worked there and seeing his smiling face everywhere. If you want, I could always tell you what I wrote on the card. Your dad knows.

    • Meant to say our last name, not out.

    • Judy, I post these things to make us stronger! It’s not intended to make anyone cry (I do), but that’s what make’s all of us stronger to fight that good fight we all talk about. Freedom is not free, it has a high cost, and I don’t mean money. Those of us that are here, still suffer from that fight, but it is worth it. Your son, me, BF, USW, D13, Esom, All of us are alive, but we feel the pain, and to help with that, I want everyone to get stronger of mind to deal with it in the future. I need that, I need to cry too! It means only what you want it to mean, and I want it to mean strength of mind.


      • But right now I’m feeling sadness in my heart, and I can’t help when the tears start to flow. Maybe that’s the love I have for all these military people who are serving and what’s costing them and their families.

        I’ll be back shortly, I promise.

  51. v. Holland says:
  52. Gonna go finish my laundry and put it away, and feed my barnyard here, then I have a couple more things to do, G don’t go away, I’m enjoying the music and I do want to hear more. The first chance I get I am going to put my exact thought down on how I feel about everybody here. I would like them all to know.

  53. v. Holland says:

    Okay, I swear this is the last song I’m gonna post-One of my all time favorites. My favorite line “I’m to old to go chasing you around” Good night and God Bless

  54. Okay, I am going to do what I said I was, I’m still here,and I hope you are too Gary. Just give me some time to write what I want to say, not going to be easy.


  55. Dropped in between Ben 10 and bedtime. In music, I enjoy the voice most, but also like lyrics that say something.

    Hi there
    How are you?

  56. And I laughed at myself
    as the tears rolled down

    • Your a music lover as well! Let’s share in the days to come?


    • v. Holland says:

      Great song, had a hard time hearing all the lyrics -so here you go. I know I said goodnight but there just wasn’t anything on TV.

      The World I Know Lyrics
      Artist(Band):Collective Soul
      Review The Song (0)
      Print the Lyrics

      Has our conscience shown?
      Has the sweet breeze blown?
      Has the kindness gone?
      Hope still lingers on

      I drink myself of newfound pity
      Sitting alone in New York City
      And I dont know why

      Are we listening?
      Hymns of offering
      Have we eyes to see?
      Love is gathering

      All the words that Ive been reading
      Have now started the act of bleeding
      Into one,Into one

      So I walk up on high
      And I step to the edge
      To see my world below
      And I laugh at myself
      While the tears roll down
      Cause its the world I know
      Oh its the world I know

      I drink myself of newfound pity
      Sitting alone in New York City
      And I dont know why, dont know why

      So I walk up on high
      And I step to the edge
      To see my world below
      And I laugh at myself
      While the tears roll down
      Cause its the world I know
      Oh its the world I know


  57. Hi everybody

    I would like to say a few words here and what you all have come to mean to me.

    When I first came on this site, I didn’t know what to expect, but I kept coming and reading and then I decided to give it a try. Little did I know, that I would be in the making of some great new friends, friends who have come to mean a great deal to me.

    G, I think you were one of the first ones to make me feel welcome here, with a lot of your jokes, talks, and basic chats we have had over the past few months, for that I thank you. I’ve come to think of you as a special friend, someone who understands at times what I’m trying to say, then you help by clarifying it for me. You have come to help me understand things and people here when I was confused at times, and for that I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    BF, Well, what can I say about you. We have had our debates, sort of arguments, deep intense talks about things, and you made me want to pull my hair out at times, but I didn’t. And for that thank you. But, you also made me stop and think too, think about things when I said I would not change my mind on, and I think you know what that is. In case you forgot, it was about prisoners being executed. You have your strong beliefs in things as much as I do, and your just as bullheaded as I can be in certain issues. We won’t go there right now. You have explained things to me in simple laymens terms so I can understand better at what you and others are saying, and for that I thank you. You too have become a special friend to me as well, and I hope we can always be friends.

    To USW I want to thank you for having this site where we can all come together and speak our minds without all the name calling and derogatory words. It’s not very often you can go to a site and argue, debate, joke around with others like you can here, and for that I thank you. You are without a doubt, a very kind and wise person, and I really love your articles that you put here. I also think it’s very kind of you to let others put theirs on here as well. I don’t know what I would do if your site wasn’t available. It took me a while to come on here, but once I did, I’m very glad of it. Thank you too from the bottom of my heart. I hope you will be here for a long time, and that you’re not going anywhere soon. BTW, I hope Mrs. Weapon is doing mush better.

    To all the rest, I want to say thank you to you as well. Just too many names to put down. I have come to think of all of you as my very dear friends as well, I truly enjoy the talks, the jokes LOI, and the arguments, debates and the very caring nature that you all have, I will never forget you all, never. For you are truly a special group of people, and I have come to love you all very much, and that comes from deep within my heart, you will always, always be my friends, don’t ever forget that.

    If there is anything I can ever do for anybody here, please, don’t hesitate to ask, I will always do the best I can for any of you, and I hope you realize that, for I hold a very special place in my heart for each and every one of you because you are my friends.



    • Your love, of many things, is wonderful. I posted this video before, but I just love it. There’s one person that is in the video that I know well, although it was a few years before these seens were taped. I’m a red head, see if you can find what I’m talkin about!


    • Richmond Spitfire says:

      Dearest Judy,

      You are so fearless and you’ve stated eloquently what I’ve wanted to state to all here…that I too have grown to love all of you…

      I dedicate this to each and everyone of you…

      Best Regards,

      • RS

        Thank you for your kind words. I’ve been wanting to say that for a while now, but the timing wasn’t right, but after the week I had, I felt this was the right time for it, and I wanted to let everybody know just how I felt.

        Am getting off for sure now, am tired, and so is my mind.

        Hope you will have a good night and a good weekend.

        Take Care


    • Well said, Judy. And much thanks to USW and everyone. I very much enjoy coming to this site. Ya’ll are very special. My life is more interesting because of everyone’s contribution.

      • Thank you Cyndi

        Just had one of those nights last night and I wanted everyone to know exactly how I felt about them.

        Have a good day and take care.


    • As a new comer I can’t ask for much … but I’ll gladly sample the meatballs and GRAVY!

      All best to you and yours.

      • Hi Charlie

        It’s meatballs and sauce, not gravy. You’re welcome to come to my house any time for dinner, will be more than happy to make you some, but you will have to share with the rest of my family. Just let me know when you’d like to have it.

        Have a great day Charlie.


        • Sharing?

          Judy, you’re a socialist after all!

          What time’s dinner? I’ll bring the provolone.

          • Hey Charlie

            Got make a plan for that, just can’t jump in the kitchen and make it, besides, I have to buy everything. And just do you mean I’m a socialist after all. You’re funny Charlie.

    • v. Holland says:

      Hi Judy, I remember you being one of the first to welcome me and I appreciated it and I too really like having this site and it’s people to talk to, good job USW -your a really nice lady Judy-seems all the people on here are nice people-thanks for taking the time to speak from your heart-God Bless. V

      • Hi V

        Sorry I didn’t get back to you, but I got caught up chatting with G, and didn’t look up this way until now.

        Yes, the people here are so very nice and I really enjoy talking with them and that’s why I wrote what I did last night. If USW doesn’t mind, I would like to paste it to Monday’s post so everybody will see it, and know how much I have come to think of them as my good friends. Was having a bad week, and last night and G was here to help me get through it. Don’t know what I would do if this site wasn’t available.

        Have a good night V


  58. Richmond Spitfire says:

    If you have about 15 minutes to spare, take a look at this video…I promise that you will enjoy it…feel free to de-validate me if you don’t!

    Best Regards to all,

  59. Hey G thought of a couple more songs if you want to play them.

    One is by the Drifters There Goes My Baby

    Ray Charles Georgia

    Okay one more Martina McBride In The Arms Of An Angel

  60. RWBoveroux says:


    There have been a number of very powerful videos posted today/tonight about the cost of these wars that we are fighting. I wanted to add one about a soldier at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

    • RWBoveroux says:

      Can anyone tell me what the General gave to the LT just before they embraced on the stage?

      • Can’t really tell, but it looks like the General gave him a medal or something. If you know, would you please share that?



      • That would not have been a military medal, as those are pinned on by the commanding officer. It may have been something local, or something that was dropped and picked up for him. Nice story!


    • rwboveroux says:

      It is the General’s personal coin. Generals have their own personal coin and coins for their different commands. For example, here at Walter Reed, our CG has her personal 2 star coin, her Walter Reed coin, and her coin for the Regional Command that she commands. Larger units will have their own coins as well. The coins are personal mementos given by the senior commanders to recognize extraordinary accomplishments or such.

  61. v. Holland says:

    Oh Man ,this is terrible!

    “Neighbors Thought Dead Man Was Halloween Display

    Saturday, October 17, 2009

    LOS ANGELES — Residents of a Southern California apartment complex say they saw a lifeless body slumped on a neighbor’s patio, but didn’t call police because they thought it was part of a Halloween display.

    Mostafa Mahmoud Zayed had apparently been dead since Monday.

    Cameraman Austin Raishbrook, owner of RMG News, told the Los Angeles Times he was at the scene in Marina del Rey Thursday when authorities arrived. The 75-year-old Zayed was slumped over a chair on the third-floor balcony of his apartment with a single gunshot wound to the eye.

    A Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department investigator says the case is an “apparent suicide.”

    Raishbrook says neighbors told him they noticed the body Monday “but didn’t bother calling authorities because it looked like a Halloween dummy.”

  62. v. Holland says:


    Interesting article-Seems people are starting to choose the representatives that they want but in doing so the Republicans may lose seats by splitting the vote.

    * OCTOBER 16, 2009

    Tea-Party Activists Complicate Republican Comeback Strategy


    “PLATTSBURGH, N.Y. — The rise of conservative “tea party” activists around the country has created a dilemma for Republicans. They are breathing life into the party’s quest to regain power. But they’re also waging war on some candidates hand-picked by GOP leaders as the most likely to win.” Rest of article is attached

  63. Something to laugh at!

    A man walked into a very high-tech bar. As he sat down on a stool he noticed that the bartender was a robot. The robot clicked to attention and asked, “Sir, what will you have?”

    The man thought a moment then replied, “A martini please.”

    The robot clicked a couple of times and mixed the best martini the man had ever had.

    The robot then asked, “Sir, what is your IQ?”

    The man answered “oh, about 164.”

    The robot then proceeded to discuss the=2 0’theory of relativity’, ‘inter-stellar space travel’, ‘the latest medical break throughs’, etc……..

    The man was most impressed. He left the bar but thought he would try a different tact.. He returned and took a seat. Again the robot clicked and asked what he would have?

    “A Martini please.”

    Again it was superb. The robot again asked “what is your IQ sir?”

    This time the man answered, “Oh about 100”. So the robot started discussing Nascar racing, the latest basketball scores, and what to expect the Dodgers to do this weekend.

    The guy had to try it one more time. So he left, returned and took a stool…. Again a martini, and the question, “What is your IQ?”?

    This time the man drawled out “Uh….. bout 50”.

    The robot clicked then leaned close and very slowly asked,

    “A-r-e y-o-u p-e-o-p-l-e s-t-i-l-l h-a-p-p-y w-i-t-h O-B-A-M-A?


    • Speaking of teachers!

      A teacher asked her 6th grade class how many of them were Obama fans…?

      Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands except for Little Johnny…

      The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to be different…again.

      Little Johnny said, “Because I’m not an Obama fan.”

      The teacher asked, “Why aren’t you an Obama fan?”

      Johnny said, “Because I’m a Republican.”

      The teacher asked him why he’s a Republican.

      Little Johnny answered, “Well, my Mom’s a Republican and my Dad’s a Republican, so I’m a Republican…”

      Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, “If your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, what would that make you?”

      With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, “An Obama fan.”

  64. v. Holland says:

    First I’ve heard of this-Love the name “Can you hear us Now? rallies”

    “Tea Partiers Take Aim at Major Media Outlets
    The Tea Party movement — a group of conservative protestors opposed to massive government spending — are taking to the streets again, this time targeting the media.

    Saturday, October 17, 2009

    The “tea party” movement is back.

    Groups of conservative protesters opposed to massive government spending are taking to the streets again, this time targeting the media.

    The “Can You Hear Us Now” rallies are planned for Saturday in front of NBC studios in Burbank, CNN in Atlanta and affiliate stations of NBC, ABC and CBS across the nation.

    “American citizens outraged by President Obama and the actions of Congress have set their sights on a new target — the so-called mainstream media — with tea-party protests now set to boil in front of more than 30 press offices across the U.S.,” the lead organizing group, FaxDC, wrote in a press release.

    Organizers are encouraging protesters to also rally outside of The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and other prominent newspapers.

    The rallies are just the latest in a series of public displays of voter outrage, dating back at least to April, when simultaneous “tea parties” were held around the country, largely in protest of President Obama’s $787 billion stimulus bill.

    Anti-spending sentiment was heard in the uproar at town hall meetings held by lawmakers in August and in a march on Washington last month when the key issue was health care reform. Since then, the demonstrations have grown to include a broad range of grievances, while drawing accusations that they are grounded partly in racism and raising fears that they could incite violence — criticisms that protest leaders deny.

    It is not clear who is leading Saturday’s protests. A so-called “webmaster” who didn’t identify himself, launched his Web site on Sept. 15. He urged protesters to spread word of the demonstrations through tea party groups, Facebook, Twitter, blogs and message boards.

    “Some people messaged me and asked why not a more symbolic day,” he said in a press release. “I say, why shouldn’t we be the ones to make it a symbolic day, a day in history the press will never forget?”

    The anonymous leader said he’s not an activist, just one guy.

    “I have no sponsors, no bankroll, no agenda — except to help put a nail in the mainstream-media coffin,” he said.

    • VH,

      I see this as overdue. When the media had so much to do with the outcome of an election, they are not the “press” anymore IMHO. I would say that all of them have failed the public, the “press” should report the “news”. Anything other than the “news”, than it is just opinion, and maybe, should not be protected by Article 1.


      • Whoops, I was referring to the “freedom of Press”, not freedom of speech.

      • v. Holland says:

        I agree the news media overall has really failed this country-haven’t been able to find any info on there actually being any rallies today-did find some for pre-rallies yesterday but not today.

  65. I have, over time, given tribute to our military members who have gave their lives. I have honored them, the best that I can. Now, as a vet, I have one daughter serving in the USCG, and my youngest (a senior), wanting to meet with a USAF recruiter. Needless to say I’m a proud Dad. But I haven’t forgotten those that remain here, safe and sound, worried, fighting on with day to day life. I haven’t lived that side yet, but I know that it is very hard for Mom’s and Dad’s, kids, all relatives and friends to wait day in and day out, hopeing, not to hear any bad news. Tonight, as things are slow, I’d like to pay a special tribute to those that wait at home, because they are going through hell too!, Just a different kind.

    I don’t want war, but I won’t forget those that are fighting it today! This one’s for their families!


    • Learning something, let’s try this.

      • Hi G

        Just got back a little while ago. Sent you an E last night, don’t know if you read it or not though.

        I read your post earlier about your youngest wanting to go in and I’m sure you might have mixed feelings about that or do you since your oldest is in. You do sound very much the proud dad, and I’m sure you are very proud of your kids.

        When Matthew went in the Marines, I was so proud of him, but yet worried whether or not he would end up going to either place, and sure enough, he was sent to Iraq a year later. You worry every single day while they are there, and praying nothing will happen to them. But then you see on thew news at whats going on, you don’t want to watch, but you have to, to see if maybe you might get a glimpse of your son or daughter.

        Every single day he was there was I think a test for me, and to help make me a strong person with each passing day. But when he did face the enemy, and I heard the stories,and they showed what was happening on the news, I had all I can do to try and keep myself on an even keel with every day things. Try to keep my mind occupied with other things, but it didn’t help

        When they had that battle in Najaf, and showed those 4 dead Marines, I was besides myself. I thought, what the Hell are they doing showing them like that, displaying them is what I thought. I was very angry and hurt when they showed them. I thought, how dumb can the news be to show something like that. What were they thinking. Did they not realize that those Marines families might have seen that. and what if one of them was my son. Didn’t hear from him for 3 weeks, not knowing if he was dead, wounded or alive, until he called us from the field on a field phone. It was only about 20 seconds, but it was the best 20 seconds I had, it was him just saying to me, I know what you have been seeing on the news, and waht you’ve been hearing, but I had to call and let you know, I am okay. I just broke down when he called, knowing that my son was okay. But unfortunately, 5 of his friends were not. They had been killed that day.

        Not only do you, him, or any of them that have experienced that, neither will the families, for that will be with them and and the families for the rest of their lives. Yea, I was thinking about Kevin today, and his family, but I was somewhere else today to help take that off my mind, and it did me a lot of good. Best thing I could have done today.

        Just wanted to say that, to say I’m okay today, I survived another day, and so will all the others. I will never, ever forget those who are serving and those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, for they will live forever in my heart.

        God Bless our troops and their families.


        • Keep the Flag waiving! It will still fly, no matter what happens. Just thought I’d remind everyone that those at home go through hell too!

          And yes, I got my ass chewed from my Mom when I was finally able to call, but it was a good one, and she was entitled to it. Never forget that call home.


          • Hi

            That would have been the last thing I would do, just in case you know. I wouldn’t have wanted that on my conscience. BTW, how’s your mom doing since her surgery? Hope she’s okay.

            How was your day today? I had a good time, I’ll e you about it later. Want to go take a shower and relax a bit. A lot of loud music, but worth it. Best thing I did was to get out for the day.


            • I get ya! Mom’s fine, doing well. did a side job (painting), this morning, been just hangin out since. The weather still stinks, not much to be done out doors.


              • It was a really nice day here today, not hot, but not cold, but that is due to change starting tomorrow. Going to start getting windy with for what they say, rain coming in by Monday, and going to get colder. I’m thrilled.

  66. Oh heck I can just tell you hear, nobody else hear anyway.

    We got up there around 12 12:15 or so, and they haven’t even started, but did shortly after. They played a lot of good music, some country, rock, and some stuff they wrote. They also did a lot of the comedy shtick as well. One of the band member pretended to be Elvis’s cousin Beuford Presley, with big ol buck teeth, side burns attached to his sun glasses. He also had this hanger hanging on the back of his collar with toilet paper hanging off so he could pretend to wrap scarves around ladies necks, he even got me, but I think that was set up by one of the other band members, which was fun.

    We had lunch when we got there, hadn’t had anything to eat before we left, and I was hungry, especially after going grocery shopping earlier. Had a bratwurst with loads of mustard and a side of German potato salad. It was an Oktober fest thing, and everything there was German. Yes I know I spelled it wrong, but that’s the way they spelled it. Stayed there until the last set, which was around 4:15 and we got home about an hour later. Best thing i did was to get out and enjoy myself, even mom enjoyed herself, she couldn’t take her nap, get her awake all day, but she had a good time, enjoyed listening o the music as well. Of course they played some polka music and that really perked her up.

    And tomorrow, Jim and I are going out to dinner for our 40th anniversary, just the two of us. The boys are going to stay with mom. Going to this new place at the Atlantis, suppose to be good, so I’m looking forward to that. He got me some really pretty flowers today, instead of waiting tomorrow, since the florist is closed on Sunday’s. It will be nice to be able to do something without everybody else going. Something we haven’t done in a long time.

    So, that’s it, that’s what I was going to E you, but decided to do it here. Heck why not, I don’t care who sees it anyway, nothing to hide.

    That was my day today, and my night tomorrow.

    • Judy and Jim,

      Happy 40th! You are an uncommon couple and I hope you have a wonderful time together on your special day. You two are an example of” A Great American Family”!!!!!

      God Bless!


      • Just thought I’d throw in a song about many of us, just in any different ways. Judy and Jim are what many want to be, together and happy, God Bless them. For those who are missing there loved ones, or for those who are just lonely, military or not:

        • Hi G

          Hope you see this. Thank you for your kind words about me and Jim, we appreciate it very much. Guess we’re a rare couple, huh. I couldn’t have picked a better person to say yes to when he asked me to marry him, even though I was only 17 at the time. He’s been there for me when I thought things couldn’t get any worse, and I didn’t think I could cope with some of things that we went through. Hopefully, we’ll be together for another 40. We’ll be older than hell, but together.

          Again thanks.


      • Thanks again, And I’ll be sure and tell him, but I did leave you another E. Have to get our wires straightened out here.

        Going to go for the night, tired, and have a headache from the music. We were right behind the band and they played quite loud.

        You have a good night and I’ll talk with you tomorrow.



  67. Pretty well done.

    Thus, very dangerous

    Against the Navy’s new slogan “Global Force for Good”
    is this quote:

    “Every ambitious would-be empire clarions it abroad that she is conquering the world to bring it peace, security and freedom, and is sacrificing her sons only for the most noble and humanitarian purposes.

    That is a lie, and it is an ancient lie, yet generations still rise and believe it!”

    “If America ever does seek Empire, and most nations do, then planned reforms in our domestic life will be abandoned, States Rights will be abolished—in order to impose a centralized government upon us for the purpose of internal repudiation of freedom, and adventures abroad.

    The American Dream will then die—on battlefields all over the world—and a nation conceived in liberty will destroy liberty for Americans and impose tyranny on subject nations.”

    • v. Holland says:

      If is a big word-you are quick to criticize the U.S. for things we have done but I have to wonder what the consequences would have been if we had done nothing.

      • Who knows, V.? Can’t predict the future either.

        HOWEVER we know what is happening – freedom dying under the curse of empire.

        • v. Holland says:

          That’s true, BF, but when our country is making important decisions they have to try and predict the future, not easy and mistakes will be made. I just figure we should look at all the relevant info. that they had at the time not just the outcome before we condemn.

          • V.H.

            Actually they don’t need to predict the Future so to speak.

            They simply need to start owning up to the easily predictable effects of their actions.

            If they got out of our business then WE the people will get the correct answer sooner on our own.

          • As JAC said,

            If we merely measure the righteousness of our action by outcomes, we are doomed to do evil.

            We must measure the righteousness of action by our actions – not the outcomes.

            The US is seriously lacking in righteousness of action.

    • HI

      Hey, did you happen to read what I posted here Friday night? If not, would you please, I did mention you, G, and Usw and the rest. Something I felt I had to say.


    • Hi Cyndi

      That’s the first I heard, but it seems to me, that was said a long time ago when the great one took office, that our rights, and our freedom were going to be slowly taken away.

      If he stood up tomorrow and said that, bet dollars to donuts, the left would say yes, while the other side says no. Something has got to be done, and done now, but the question is what and how.

      It’s not about the left or the right, it’s about what’s right for America and what they are doing to the constitution. IMO anyway.

      • Hi judy,

        I agree with you. The Left would be all for whatever the great one wants, no matter what it does to the citizens. Its disgusting. Our country is being destroyed before our eyes and there’s nothing we can do about it. The worst part is that a slight majority of Americans are fine with it. So sad.

        • v. Holland says:

          People keep saying we shouldn’t vote for a lesser evil and maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t see republicans ever voting for this treaty.

          • Hi V,

            In my opinion, the Republicans are only slightly less damaging than the Commicrats, that said, hopefully they won’t vote for this. Unfortunately, as with alot of other dubious legislation of late, the Commicrats will find a work around. The power behind all this destruction is so close now. Whoever is behind it will not give up now. Do you really believe our preferences matter to the elites? I don’t. They couldn’t give a damn about us. So far as they are concerned we’re just vermin on the face of the Earth Mother.

            • v. Holland says:

              I’m not happy with the republicans either but I also believe that if the Congress & Presidency hadn’t been handed over to the democrats we wouldn’t be talking about this treaty and although it may already be too late-people better get out and vote as many democrats out of their house and senate seats as possible in 2010, so that the power they have will be more balanced.

              • I hope you’re right. If the GOP can block this thing, I might actually give them another look.

          • Oh Good Lord, I hope not. I hope all those who voted for this person are now regretting it. I fell like smacking the backs of their heads for doing so.

        • You’re right Cyndi, and the only time they’ll wake up, is when it’s too late, if it’s not already.

          You know Biden and Reid was here on Friday for a fund raiser for Reid so he can continue with his running for 2010. Showed it on the news, but only saw a quick glimpse of it, wasn’t interested. My son who lives right across the street from the university where they were at, he said he couldn’t even walk to school, the cops wouldn’t let him or anybody else get to school because of them. They had practically every street blocked off because of them. And on top of that, they didn’t even give any sympathy to the mother of our local who was killed in Afghan on Oct 3rd, at least not that I’m aware of anyway.

          Just a bunch of hypocrites and blow-hards if you ask me.

  68. Makes you wonder why people do what they do. I think if this is all true, then they should have to pay for all searches that were done.,2933,568420,00.html

    • OMG! What IDIOTS these parents are! I hope the authorities throw the book at these morons. And what’s with those names for the kids?

      When I lived in Florida a couple of years ago, I was a part time non union actor. I would go on the casting calls for these alleged ‘reality’ TV shows. I figured it was good audition practice. (I take my acting seriously) What a pathetic situation custom made for pathetic people who want to be ‘actors’. Mostly they just want their mug on TV and couldn’t give a hoot about the craft of acting. What I saw in the waiting area while waiting for my ‘audition’, really turned me off to the whole thing. Mostly they wanted people who were above average in physical attractiveness who would behave in a way that would create conflict. No real acting required. The director would usually ask you to tell him/her a little about yourself and then perform your monolog. Most auditioners were in and out in five minutes. If they saw something they thought they could use, they’d give you a call back and have you interact with other potential cast members. They key at this point was to ‘act’ in an attention getting manner. So it is no suprise to me that this family of reality show ‘actors’ thought this stunt was a great way to get on TV again. This is what you get when you reward bad behavior.

      • Maybe that’s why they named him Falcon, thought he could fly. I hope they don’t let them get away with this either, all those people out looking for the kid, and here he was hiding. My son said that he was the Today Show with his dad, and the kid threw up. My son said it’s all over the internet, although I haven’t seen it, have you.

        • No, I haven’t. I’m on an island in the central Pacific Ocean. Its Monday morning, 9 am here. I think the show on but I’ve pretty well given up on TV. I find myself shouting at it and walking around PO’d all day.

          My boyfriend and I took out his recently purchased sailboat for the first time yesterday. The crazy man is considering going out again this afternoon. Things went well during the first half of our overly ambitious voyage. However, things changed quickly once we arrived at our snorkling destination. The wind and waves were a bit much but he dropped anchor anyway. I don’t know if he ignored my recommendation or just didn’t hear me. As soon as he dropped it, the boat swung around and almost sent him into the water. Then, he tried to use the anchor rope to swing the boat around. By this time we were getting hammered pretty good. Fortunately, a couple of locals came by to help. They managed to get the bow pointing in the right direction and Barry managed to get back in the boat. We decided to just get the anchor up and head for home. He started for the bow when I suggested he put on a life vest. He actually did so witout giving me any grief, and then scrambled back out. Too bad the anchor was now fouled on the coral. Poor Barry was being flung around like a rag doll. Somehow he managed to stay on board by grabbing onto the stays. He reminded me of a chipamnzee! He’s pretty quick on his feet for an old guy 😉 Unfortunately, he shredded his hands on the ropes and stays and was now bleeding all over the place. The anchor was still stuck. I asked him if the anchor was really that important or if this was some kind of macho thing. He replied that the anchor is an expensive one and that we weren’t going to let it go. (I think it was a macho thing) With his brain finally working again, he crawled back in the boat, and informed me that we would sail in a zig zag until it came loose. That finally did the trick but it took awhile. Once we were free, we caught the wind and headed for home. This took about two hours. We realized that we would be getting back to the marina after our estimated arrival time. We went to radio in but the battery on the radio was dead. I patched up his wounds as best I could. By the time we got back, the marina with its dingy service was closed. It was dark by the time we got the boat moored and the sails dropped. So now we had to swim ashore. Of course, there was no moon, and I wouldn’t say these are shark infested waters, BUT, I’d seen a couple of good sized black tip reef sharks swimming with the nurse sharks at the fish cleaning station earlier in the day. The plan was to swim the 100 feet to the wall and then walk/dog paddle along it until we got to the boat ramp. So we left all the ‘stuff’ in the boat and jumped in. I’m a water baby but Barry isn’t. I could tell he was kind of apprehensive about was okay once I told I was able to stand up where I was. It took us about ten minutes of coral crunching before we got to the boat ramp. We climbed out, found our bikes, and then rode home dripping wet. So the good news is that one, though we had to swim ashore, we didn’t have to be rescued, and two, no one saw us on bikes all soaking wet. All and all, it was a fun day!

          • Oh Geez Louise Cyndi, that sounds like a TV show, and not a comedy either. Half your boat talk I couldn’t understand what the heck you meant, but I think I figured it out. It’s 2:45 p.m. here on Sunday afternoon and it’s pretty windy here too. Suppose to get some rain either by tonight or tomorrow. Guess winter is on it’s way whether we like it or not.

            I din’t see that today show, but my son was telling me about it, he said he watched on the internet, didn’t say much else, just telling me about that kid who threw up. Something I really didn’t need to hear.

            I’m sorry I don’t have any exciting stories as you do there, hope Barry’s hand will be alright, holy crap when I read that, especially about what you said about the sharks,no thank you, that’s why I don’t do beaches and oceans. Don’t know how to swim anyway, long story of when I was a little girl.

            • Thanks Judy. My favorite old guy will be fine. He’s pretty tough. 😉 However, in the intrim, he has returned from the marina with our retrieved ‘stuff’ and has announced that we will not be sailing this afternoon. HAHAHAHA! Me thinks he’s hurting more than he cares to admit! As for the sharks, swimming humans tend not be on the menu in most cases. Certainly not when it comes to black tip reef sharks. I’ve seen them plenty of times while snorkling and they don’t want anything to do with you. Unless you’re bleeding heavily, I don’t think they’d be interested. Still, all those shark movies come to mind. Its dark, you can’t see the bottom, you’re treading, and in your mind you hear that music……. 🙂

              I feel so sorry for that little kid. Those parents should be ashamed of themselves. How could they do that to their own child? I think they must be unfit. This whole episode is making that poor kid sick. I wouldn’t want to call for a law against this sort of thing, butI wish the TV producers had some standards. If they did, things wouldn’t have got this far. Children should be children, not tools of stupid parents seeking a ‘reality show’ career. What a couple of loosers.

              • Glad to hear that your old guy will be fine. Funny, that’s what our son’s call their dad. Or they call us old people. I resent that remark, just because I’ll be 58 next month doesn’t mean I’m old, and Jim will be 63 the end of January. OMG, maybe we are old. I remember when my parents were our age, and I thought they were old, now we’re that age. That’s it, no more birthdays for me from now on, I quit.

                My son’s are here, so I think I’ll go for a bit. They are going to stay with my mom, so me and Jim can go out to dinner tonight and celebrate our 40th anniversary. Good Lord, when I say 40th, it does make us sound old.

                But then I was only 17, so that makes a difference.

                Catch you later Cyndi.

              • Barry is your age (I won’t call him “old guy” anymore!) I, on the other hand, am a spring chicken of 47 😉 Congrats on your anniversay! Have funny with your honey!

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  69. Lets get these bums voted out. I’m hoping anybody who runs against Reid will win. He isn’t doing anything here for us Nevadans.


  70. Thanks Cyndi

    Hope I can get back on here later when we get back, depending on how much wine I have with dinner. You can call him old guy, just don’t call me old girl,okay. LOL

    Have a good day instead of night.

  71. Hi ya’ll!

    Took a computer break today, like most Sundays.

    Judy, Your welcome, hope all went well, I got your Email.

    Black Flag, many months ago, when I read your posts, I thought I was reading a new language! Today, I understand what you are saying. You should try that poker thing, you’d like it.


  72. This is not good.

    Appearing on ABC’s “This Week,” senior Obama adviser David Axelrod said Fox News shouldn’t be treated as a news organization. “And the bigger thing is that other news organizations, like yours, ought not to treat them that way, and we’re not going to treat them that way,” he said.
    Still, Axelrod said administration officials would appear on the channel. He shrugged off News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch’s remark to shareholders last Friday that since the White House began criticizing Fox News commentators their ratings have risen.
    “You know, I’m not concerned. Mr. Murdoch has a talent for making money, and I understand that their programming is geared toward making money,” Axelrod said. “The only argument Anita was making is that they’re not really a news station. … It’s not just their commentators, but a lot of their news programming. It’s really not news. It’s pushing a point of view.”
    Emanuel appeared on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

  73. The funniest joke I heard all day:

    “”Future deficits are too high, and the president is committed to working with Congress to bring them down to a sustainable level as the economy recovers,” Geithner said in a statement accompanying the fiscal data.”

    OK, anyone want to explain to me how an annual budget deficit of anykind is “sustainable”????????

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