Something Different and Short for a Change

Phillies LogoYankees LogoI have come home this evening and watched a little baseball, which as many of you know I am passionate about (even with by beloved Red Sox sent packing), and caught a little football. Allow me to first, before I forget, offer my congratulations to those who are fans of the Philadelphia Phillies and the New York Yankees. It should be a good world series. It isn’t often we get to see the real two best teams in baseball playing each other for the championship (heck, sometimes the best two teams in baseball reside in the American League East), but I really do feel like this year we are seeing the two who most deserve to be there duking it out for the title. As I watched, slumped on the floor with the puppy laying beside me, Mrs. Weapon walked in and said, “you are using one of your sick days tonight. You get 10 sick days a year on the blog, and tonight is one.” I chuckled and said I would love to, but tomorrow is Monday! Monday’s are bad enough without also missing out on waking up and arguing some topic with people at Stand Up For America. But I am fairly whipped tonight, so I offer something a bit different.

Rather than offering a big article on a single topic. I have chosen two topics that I didn’t want to write a whole article about, but that I thought would be interesting discussion topics. I will offer them both below for everyone. And then everyone can offer their thoughts on whichever appeals to them. We’ll see how it goes. If it works out well, I may use it as a tool for nights in the future when I don’t have time to write a lot. After all, Holiday shopping season is almost here, and for those that don’t know, that becomes a hectic madhouse world for me for late November and all December.

Before I get started on the topics, I wanted to remind everyone that I can be found on facebook, should you feel the need to find me. If you email me, I will tell you how to find me there (because it is not as “USWeapon”). I know that makes it a pain, but I tend to get a feel for who I know here and who I don’t, so doing it this way allows me to keep it limited to those who I am cool with them knowing who I am. I have also begun a public page on facebook exclusively for Stand Up For America. This is, of course, open to all without going through me. You can become a fan by clicking the link here if you are a facebook user:

Facebook | Stand Up For America @ WordPress

The page is still new (like I spent 15 minutes setting it up new) so don’t fret that there isn’t much there. I will be working on it over the next couple of weeks to get it more up to speed. The idea is to have another way to promote the blog, and therefore bring even more people over to our discussions. That page will also be linked to twitter. I have just begun using twitter, so bear with me while I get the hang of it. If you are a twitter user, I am @USWeapon . I know it seems like a strange thing, but the twitter users will know what that means. I am trying really hard to get myself up to speed with all these social networking things so that we can continue to grow the readership here. I feel like we have gotten so many good participants, I can’t wait to see even more. So I look forward to see everyone joining the facebook fan site and the twitter account and following me there as well. Eventually I will figure out how to have a way to join both directly from the home page of the blog. For now I am simply not “technology equipped.” Ray would probably have it figured out in about three seconds. BF would too. But I am a simple boy…

Swine Flu a National Emergency?

pigs-unite-form-diseaseI saw the other day that the President has declared that the Swine Flu is a national emergency. We have discussed the Swine Flu stuff before. I have noticed that I am hearing from more people that they “know” someone who has/had swine flu. I am always a bit skeptical when I hear it. Too often, I imagine, it was a cold and nothing more, but Swine Flu simply sounded so much better. But the real question for me is whether or not the Swine Flu is really an “emergency”? I mean, let’s look at the facts (all provided by the CDC): 5%-20% of Americans get the flu every year. On average, 36,000 Americans die of flu related causes each year and 200,000 people are hospitalized with flu complications. Last year, 83 children died from the flu. Those are the facts around the every day, run of the mill flu, each and every year. That is where we set the bar for “not an emergency,” as it is the norm.

Thus far in the United States, the Swine Flu has killed about a thousand people. That is roughly 1/36th of what the “norm” is for flu every year. H1N1 has been slightly more deadly for children, with roughly 100 children dying this year so far from the virus. Worldwide, there have been 5,000 deaths. Is it just me, or does it seem to me that we may be jumping the gun a little bit in declaring this an emergency? I am not saying that Swine Flu is not a potential issue. I am not a doctor. I am just wondering why we are being so quick to declare a national emergency?

Bacons RevengeTo answer that question, I guess I first have to ask, what exactly does declaring it a national emergency accomplish (besides scaring everyone into thinking that it is a bigger issue than it really might be)?  The article I was reading gave a very broad “which the White House said allows medical treatment facilities to better handle a surge in flu patients by waiving federal requirements on a case-by-case basis.” And that is where my little silent red flag went up. I know I will be accused of bashing Obama, but it really has nothing to do with that. Anytime the government does something that allows waiving requirements, I immediately start wondering what, outside of the answer they would give, is being circumvented by this action. So I will ask all of you to help me out here. Perhaps someone with a medical area of expertise can weigh in. Are we jumping the gun by declaring H1N1 a national emergency, given that the numbers thus far seem to pale in comparison to the generic flu?

But more importantly, declaring an national emergency via a Presidential Order seems to eliminate the requirements to follow certain rules. What rules are being circumvented “on a case by case basis?” Is there anything that the government is more able to get away with that they would not have been able to legally get away with without declaring an emergency. I simply don’t trust government at this point, so when I see a declaration of emergency that doesn’t seem to fit, I have to wonder what is really going on (putting tin foil hat on now, lol).

I did want to add that I found one statement in the article pretty funny. The article was written on October 25. It clearly said, “the government has backed off initial, optimistic estimates that as many as 120 million doses would be available by mid-October. As of Wednesday, only 11 million doses had been shipped…” You think so? Mid October was 10 days ago. and as of now there are only 11 million doses shipped. And the government has “backed off” the estimates of 120 million. How about instead of “backing off” those estimates, the government just says, “yeah, we blew it.” The statement just struck me as funny.

Obama Declares H1N1 Flu ‘National Emergency’ – Political News – FOXNews.com

Obama Asks Spain to Tell Cuba to Play Nice

US-Cuba Ice CapAnother article I was reading was about the fact that the President had asked the Foreign Minister from Spain to pass a message to Castro that in order for relations to improve between the US and Cuba, they have to fix their human rights violations. Let me say two things about this. First, this is not an attack on Obama, as I see him as just doing what he is supposed to be doing as a President, which means following protocol. But does it strike anyone else as ridiculous that the President of the strongest country in the world has to do the international equivalent of asking Bobby to pass a note to Susie asking if she will be his girlfriend? Please circle yes or no.

I mean is this really necessary. If we have something to say to anyone in the world, can’t we just say it. Can’t the President of the United States simply say, “I called up Castro. I told him they better treat their people better or we won’t talk to them,”? Lift Cuba EmbargoWe asked Spain to ask Cuba to be nicer. I see it as a silly and childish game. OK, so we don’t have international relations with Cuba. I get it. But does that mean that when Cuba walks into a restaurant and the US and Spain are having dinner, and Cuba says “hi US”, that the US has to say “Spain, tell Cuba we aren’t speaking to them, and that we do not say ‘hi” back”? We are playing grade school games at the international level. We are big boys now, can’t we start acting like it? Again, not an attack on Obama, but on general US foreign policy.

And second, how many of you really think that we should have any issue with speaking to Cuba in the first place? I get that during the cold war we felt the need to punish those who stood with the Soviet Union. But the cold war is over. Can we stop punishing Cuba now? I mean it has been 50 years since they had missiles from Russia pointed at us. Isn’t it time we got over it? Realistically, I know that they are a dictatorship, and that they are a communist country. But so what? So is North Korea and we talk to them. And what business is it of ours? It isn’t our country. If the people there are not rising up and taking him out of power, who are we to punish them for it? Doesn’t that whole “sovereign nation” thing apply here as well?

Just as a thought, wouldn’t we do more damage to the Cuban government if we simply stopped fighting with Cuba and opened our borders to Cubans who wanted to get out of there? I would think that a mass exodus from Cuba would be detrimental to the Cuban government’s legitimacy.

Obama Asks Spain to Deliver Message to Cuba – Political News – FOXNews.com

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Comments

  1. Mrs. Weapon says:

    This is not what I was thinking when I said, “sick day”!

  2. Ray Hawkins says:

    Hmmmm – so POTUS issuing an order to ‘lift Federal restrictions’ is a bad thing? Now I feel like I have entered the twilight zone – USW moaning about a lack of government interference. 🙂

    • No way Ray… You know there is a big difference here. I am wary of any time the federal government takes a step that basically says that anyone can ignore them. They wouldn’t do that if it didn’t serve them in some way.

  3. Ray Hawkins says:

    Oh – and I think you meant congratulations to the Philadelphia Phillies and to the only team to spend over 200 million on payroll to get to the World Series. Sooner or later we all figured they’d pay their way to get back to the big dance.

    • Wonder what baseball would look like with salary caps. Since I am not a baseball fan, I do not really care, however, I have read enough and seen enough that the Yankees, I thought always had the highest paid talent and thus, end up in the playoffs with regularity and that makes it boring. But I do not know enough about baseball to comment very much on it….even with the Texas Rangers.

  4. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/51913.php

    Take a look at the above link. It describes a new theory that our susceptability to flu is greater in the winter because of vitamin D deficiency. There is also some concern that the H1N1 vaccine is not safe.

    Also, is having a declared national medical emergency during a major healthcare debate just another crissis that should not be wasted?

    • Average White Guy says:

      Not saying that Vitamin D doesn’t play ANY role in preventing the flu, but the major reason is humidity. The flu virus survives suspended in cold dry conditions because (it’s theorized) water, being a highly polar molecule pulls apart the flu viruses structure. In the summer months there is usually high humidity in the air which traps and destroys errant airborne flu strains.

      • WTG viability/sustainability out of body is the correct answer.

        • Average White Guy says:

          Right. Out of the protective mucous membranes of the body and in the air = virus exposed to polarizing humidity during the summer. :\

          At least that’s the prevailing theory.

          • Or, too little sunlight –

            Vit. D is a hormone and KEY to health of the body

            5,000 IU, good people, of D3

            (not D2)

            • Ah, another excuse to bask on the beuatiful sunny beach here. As if I needed one…I’ll be sending ya’ll warm sunny thoughts!

              😉

      • Humidity is not the answer. As pointed out in the article, the flu strikes in the northern and southern hemisheres in their respective winters. It strikes in the middle latitudes in the rainy season. Northern winters are dry. Middle latitude rainy seasons are wet. That breaks the correlation with humidity. What they have in common is lack of sunlight. For the upper latitudes it is because the days are short and the sun low in the sky. A low sun means the rays are traversing more of the atmosphere allowing more UVB to be absorbed. Add to that the fact the most people in these latitudes coverup in the winter and take shelter, there is little opportunity for natural vitamin D production. In the middle latitudes, the cloud cover blocks or absorbs the UVB rays. The theory, and it is only a theory at this time, is that vitamin D is necessary for the immune system to function properly. So when it is low the everpresent flu virus can attack successsfully. Death by flu is not caused by the flu but is caused by the immune system going into overdrive and attacking the host. Vitamin D plays are role also in preventing this. So having sufficient levels of D first prevents the infection but once the infection occurs prevents the body from destroying itself.

        I do not know if any of this is real but it does offer some hope that the flu can be combated cheaply and effectively without massive vaccination efforts.

  5. My good friend and her family has the swine flu. Actually went got the test and had it confirmed. She said it didnt feel any different than any other type of flu. They threw up for a day and had a high fever (103.1) for about 12hrs. Than the typical body aches etc. After about 5days back to normal. Her husband, 6 yr old and herself all had it. Then they scrubbed their house down after to make sure the germs were gone. Just like they normally would after a illness. So from what I understood, it just felt like a typical winter flu.

    Ellen

    • I tried to do a search on flu cases for the last ten years, had poor results.
      I can remember several years back, both county hospitals were full during flu season, and the whole state was the same way. I do not recall it being declared a state or national emergency, but that had to be because Bush just didn’t care about people dying in the streets, sorry, hospitals.

  6. Ray Hawkins says:

    To add to the Swine talk. I have a 4 1/2 month old son who does go to daycare (which to boot is more $$$ than my house payment). My wife still nurses him. It was okay for her to get the seasonal flu vaccine (I guess to pass on some immunity to him). The clinic next to her work would not give her the H1N1 vaccine due to guidance they received for risks to nursing mothers. Our pediatrician confirmed this as well. There have been several confirmed cases of H1N1 at his school – all with older kids.

    • Ray, do yourself the biggest favor and get thee hence to Medscape. Always be uber informed as the person who cares most for you and yours IS you and yours. Don’t ever get lazy with the health of you and your family.

  7. v. Holland says:

    My son came down with the flu-It was confirmed as flu but when I asked the doctor if it was swine flu she said-“I assume it is because it’s the only flu going around right now and that an additional test to confirm would cost $400.00 and insurance would not pay for it”-my son didn’t care to pay the extra-he was very sick for about 7 days-won’t say it was worse than normal flu but it was bad-thankfully he is fine now.

    • I talked to some firemen that I know this weekend and they were talking about the calls they get to bring people to the hospital that can’t get there on thier own. They said the doctors and nurses are just telling people they have swine flu without doing any tests if they are sick. We all figured they were just doing that so they didn’t have to do all kinds of tests because of all the people coming in because of the swine flu scare. But never let a good crisis go to waste.

  8. Our largest trading partner has the same ranking for human rights violations. Did Bush or Obama require China to improve how they treat their people? The US’s Cuba strategy seems to be let the Castro’s die of old age, them start dealing with them. And the same ranking as Saudi Arabia. OK, tell them to keep their damn oil, make a stand for human rights!!!

    *89 (46 percent)of the world’s 193 countries are rated as Free, where they have the freedom of a wide range of political and human rights. *62 (32 percent) live in Partly Free countries, where the rule of law enforcement is weak *. 42 (22 percent) of the world’s countries are ranked as Not Free with the people living with only basic human rights and political freedom is completely unknown.

    Of the 42 countries designated as Not Free, eight were marked with the Worst of the Worst possible ranking.These countries included: Burma, Equatorial Guinea, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. The list also included the two territories, Chechnya and Tibet.

    At a slightly lower level of rating came the countries, Belarus, Chad, China, Cuba, Eritrea, Loas, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Zibabwe, alongside the two territories of South Ossetia (Georgia) and Western Sahara (Morocco). In these countries very little scope is permitted for private discussion, while political challengers are ruthlessly oppressed. Any criticism of the government is censored and penalized. The people’s lives are completely government controlled and all invasive, with fear of revenge for free {thoughts, or action.

    http://www.ideamarketers.com/?articleid=545576

    • Average White Guy says:

      Waiting for him to die to install our own “democratically elected government,” sure beats cruise missiles and tanks. 😀

    • Our government has been dealing with them for a looong time. Just remember that emigration within Cuba to Canada is still a no-no even though we’re pals, as is a visiting Canadian staying at a Cuban national’s home overnight. Yup, sleepovers are a no-no too so tell POTUS to put away his dreams of challenging Castro to a pillow fight and CNN’s dream of televising it as a Dictators Gone Wild video event. Anderson Cooper must be crushed right about now.

  9. H1N1 Emergency – I’m with you USW, don’t trust government and wondering what it really means; especially when the announcement comes out on a Friday night. Friday nights are a great time to announce those things that the Adm. doesn’t want the public to scrutinize too closely. I know several people that have had “Swine”, either in the spring or now – nasty, but they say not much different than regular.

    Cuba – Couldn’t we just have Sean deliver our message?

    http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/25/sean-penn-fidel-castro-vanity-fair-journalist-diana-jenkins/#

  10. Re: Cuba

    Yes, it appears infantile on how diplomacy works – ‘we’ can’t talk directly to someone, we talk through another party to communicate.

    But this is 3,000 years of diplomatic tactic. There are fundamental and historical reasons for it.

    One, for example, is the engagement of an ‘honest broker’. Whereas I may lie to you in private, and then deny it in public, one cannot do this with an honest broker in between. Thus, there is another party verifying the communication.

    Anyway, such communications is a very good start. It will take time to bear fruit.

  11. Morning Everyone

    Reading along for now.

    Hope all will have a good day.

    Judy

  12. Maybe this is the reason for pushing the swine flu so hard.

    The National Emergencies Act as passed on September 14, 1976 and amended in 1985 give the President the following powers:

    National Emergency Powers
    Federal law provides a variety of powers for the President to use in response to crisis, exigency, or emergency circumstances threatening the nation. Moreover, they are not limited to military or war situations. Some of these authorities, deriving from the Constitution or statutory law, are continuously available to the President with little or no qualification. Others — statutory delegations from Congress — exist on
    a stand-by basis and remain dormant until the President formally declares a national emergency. These delegations or grants of power authorize the President to meet the problems of governing effectively in times of crisis. Under the powers delegated by such statutes, the President may seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, seize and control all transportation and communication, regulate the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel, and, in a variety of ways, control the lives of United
    States citizens. Furthermore, Congress may modify, rescind, or render dormant such delegated emergency authority.

    The whole (long) report to Congress can be found here

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/98-505.pdf

    • If I was a conspiracy theorist…. oh, wait, I am!….

      Scary power, Bama Dad.

      All that power for something no worse than a bad cold…..

      • I think that is the question BF. IS IT nothing worse than a bad cold? It certainly seems to do some things that make it different, like have a higher child mortality rate and being active during our summer when regular flus don’t.

      • FOX news reports that the President’s Children are not getting the vacine.

        October 8, 2009
        First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1
        President Obama’s school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.

        The Centers for Disease Control recommend that children ages 6 months through 18 years of age receive a vaccination against the H1N1 flu virus. At this time only children with chronic medical conditions are receiving the vaccination because their immune system is not strong enough to fight off the strain. The CDC also says a regular seasonal flu shot does not protect against the virus.

        • I heard on the radio today that in Dallas County Texas they are setting priorities for who gets the shots first. One on the list is “people with no health insurance”, right up there with medical people, very young, very old, and pregnant women.

  13. I had the same first response as Ray – USWeapon is against reduced regulation?

    I get the feeling you think Obama is waiving federal regulations…on the federal government? He is waiving federal regulations on medical treatment facilities – hospitals, clinics, etc.

    Does that make a different?

    Seasonal Flu usually starts in November, peaks in February, and goes away by May.
    Swine Flu started in March, peaked in April, has continued thru the summer, and is wide spread by October.

    Flu Deaths in October:
    * 2008 – 1 death due to Seasonal Flu
    * 2009 – how many deaths due to Swine Flu?

    April to October 2009
    * 0 Seasonal Flu deaths
    * 1000+ Swine Flu deaths

    Do you see the difference? Swine Flu did not go away during the summer, is wide spread by October, and has been killing people since April. What do you think will happen when the flu season really starts in January?

    The reason people and medical providers assume it’s Swine Flu is because the Seasonal Flu is not active yet.

    • Todd,

      I think Bama dad did a fine job of discussing the reservations that I have. I asked for what powers this gives and who it gives them to. The article stated that it released restrictions that are on health industry folks. My question was whether it does more than that. It was phrased as a question. I think it would be wise to question why a President that seems to seek maximum control would for some reason seem to release some control. It absolutely makes it different if it only releases regulations on medical treatment facilities. I have no issue with that. My question was whether declaring it an emergency does more than that, stuff that we AREN’T talking about.

      On the other hand it seems that if I question Obama some folks get themselves in a tizzie.

      Excellent information provided on this flu versus others. I can see why people may think this could be worse. I don’t know whether it is or not. South America just went through their flu season. What did this year’s swine flu there look like in comparison to previous years. Again, I don’t know that it is not an emergency. I am not a doctor. Which is why I state that it doesn’t seem like an emergency, but that I would capitulate to those in the medical field who know better than I.

      • USW:

        Is there an emergency? As of today there IS an emergency in some areas.

        What is this emergency? People are panicked and flooding the hospitals and Doctors offices.

        What caused it? The media’s continual beating of the drum without any reasoned analysis. Sound bite newscoverage.

        Now to what I see as your primary question. I would also like to know exactly what it is that the FEDERAL GOVT is waiving with regard to procedures offered by LOCAL medical facilities.

        Because I have a corrolary question. Why does the FEDERAL GOVT have ANY say what so ever over the procedures at LOCAL medical facilities?

        Here is my prediction regarding at least part of the answer. The HIPPA requirements must be waived in order for medical staff to diagnose, prescribe or otherwise treat patients in a room with other patients within ear shot. If you have no private rooms available you must treat patients in a “ward” like situation. HIPPA does not allow this.

        So I go back to my question. Why does this stupid regulation exist if it prevents timely care and what I would guess would be less costly care?

        I thought your questions were well stated by the way and did not believe you were complaining about the waiving of federal rules.

        Best Wishes
        JAC

      • USWeapon,
        Bama did leave out part of the Summary that lists limits on Emergency Powers:

        There are, however, limits and restraints upon the President in his exercise of
        emergency powers. With the exception of the habeas corpus clause, the Constitution
        makes no allowance for the suspension of any of its provisions during a national
        emergency. Disputes over the constitutionality or legality of the exercise of
        emergency powers are judicially reviewable. Indeed, both the judiciary and
        Congress, as co-equal branches, can restrain the executive regarding emergency
        powers. So can public opinion. Furthermore, since 1976, the President has been
        subject to certain procedural formalities in utilizing some statutorily delegated
        emergency authority. The National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601-1651)
        eliminated or modified some statutory grants of emergency authority; required the
        President to declare formally the existence of a national emergency and to specify
        what statutory authority, activated by the declaration, would be used; and provided
        Congress a means to countermand the President’s declaration and the activated
        authority being sought. The development of this regulatory statute and subsequent
        declarations of national emergency are reviewed in this report, which is updated as
        events require.

        I reread your article several times, and this sentence still jumps out at me:

        Is there anything that the government is more able to get away with that they would not have been able to legally get away with without declaring an emergency.

        I just wanted to point out that this is not just about government power, but also about freeing up health care providers to treat the sick.

        On the third hand 😉 , it seems like every decision Obama makes is viewed from the worst-possible-point-of-view by those on the Right. If Obama came out and said “Swine Flu is no big deal” I think those on the Right would be screaming about that (although they might line up to get their vaccines then!!).

        I have not seen anything about South America…

        The Swine Flu is very different than typical Seasonal Flu. How that plays out will be interesting. I think better-safe-than-sorry applies.

        • Todd:

          You are so wrong: “I just wanted to point out that this is not just about government power, but also about freeing up health care providers to treat the sick.”

          Your statement reflects your failure to understand what govt really is. The govt is waiving certain rules imposed upon the “private health care providers”. These rules were written by and are enforced by the govt.

          So you see this is all very much about government power. But this is only one part of the question. You and Ray have criticized the question yet you still have not answered it.

          Does the declaration give the govt any power it does not have without the declaration? Very simple question actually. Either it does or does not. If you think it does can you tell us what those powers are?

          I have offered one possible answer given my knowledge of federal medical regulations.

        • Public Opinion? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! As if….

    • Todd,

      Can you forward your source for your numbers?

      • Black Flag,
        Nope – just made them up! 😉

        Actually, I don’t have a direct source – but those are numbers I’ve read or heard in news reports during the past week or so. They may not be completely acturate, but the differences between the Swine Flu and past Seasonal Flu is quite stark.

        I took a quick look at the CDC’s website, but there’s so much info out there I couldn’t find actual numbers.

        • I asked due to the information regarding the huge difference between reality and the ‘guess’ of CDC numbers already (see #14 posts)

          • Black Flag,
            Some of the numbers I listed are from an article in a local weekly paper – they don’t have their stories online. But I think the numbers were from Wisconsin only – the article isn’t real clear.

            But their point was the Swine Flu is different than the normal seasonal flu – it’s affecting young people more than old, it’s usually mild, but when it’s bad it’s really bad.

            I agree many of the deaths seem to be caused by secondary infections. There was a story on 60 Minutes on 10/18 about a star high school football player who played Friday night, was fine after the game, but a few later days was in ICU close to death. He also had some secondary infection they were trying to identify.

            I agree the stats are all over the place. Seems any flu right now is considered Swine Flu because the Seasonal Flu normally wouldn’t have started yet. But they are starting to identify Seasonal Flu cases. Past numbers for Seasonal Flu may be low because cases in October aren’t real serious and people recover without going to the doctor, etc.

            The Reuter article is from Feb 2009 – before Swine Flu. It’d be interesting to see an update and how they see Swine Flu fitting into the mix.

  14. Yesterday, I posted regarding the hypothesis of another cause for the 1918 deaths.

    Flu may not have killed most in 1918 pandemic
    http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE5146PD20090205?feedType=RSS&feedName=scienceNews&sp=true

    “We observed a similar 10-day median time to death among soldiers dying of influenza in 1918,” they wrote.

    People with influenza often get what is known as a “superinfection” with a bacterial agent. In 1918 it appears to have been Streptococcus pneumoniae.

    (Highlight was in response to SK yesterday)

  15. Bottom Line says:

    I’m not scared of H1N1. I’ve whooped worse.

    USW – ” The article I was reading gave a very broad “which the White House said allows medical treatment facilities to better handle a surge in flu patients by waiving federal requirements on a case-by-case basis.” And that is where my little silent red flag went up.”

    BL – Yeah, mine too. I’ve posted on here in the past in regards to swine flu vaccine. That’s the scary part in all of this. It’s my understanding that the vaccine makers are immune from liability. It is also my understanding that H1N1 vaccines shipped to eastern europe have been found to have live avian bird flu in them. It is, again, my understanding that according to lab procedures and protocall, it is virtually impossible to make such a mistake.

    Was it gross neglegence or intentional? Does it matter? Either way, is bad news. The bottom line is that the integrity of the vaccine is in question. I personally don’t trust it. I won’t take it. I’ll take my chances with H1N1.

    I’m not scared.

  16. Lend to small business, Obama tells big banks
    ‘More broadly shared prosperity’ needed, he says in Saturday address

    …and people really believe there will be deflation????….

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33458755/ns/politics-white_house/

  17. Some what off subject, but I just love this fact check stuff.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_bi_ge/us_fact_check_health_insurance

  18. An argument for your side was my watching Sixty Minutes last night and seeing how easy it’s been to scam Medicaid for hundreds of millions of dollars. More frightening, I found, was how little the government (Bush and/or Obama’s) seem to care. In Florida, where Medicaid fraud now our earns illegal drug dealing money, there are but 3 regional officers in charge of Medicaid fraud (no resources). Unbelievable, really.

    Yes, it is an argument against the government running anything bigger than a newsstand, but I still think that has more to do with cleaning house (getting rid of the corrupt officials currently in government) and less to do with how bad Medicaid provides actual care.

    And today on a so-called left wing blog, I was accused of being a shill for the right (because I (apparently like FOX) also criticize Obama at every opportunity).

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      Ha! Which Blog Charlie? Maybe I should pay a visit.

      • These guys … but don’t tell them I sent you (if you post). They’re pissed off enough at me.

        http://jdrhoades.blogspot.com/

        • Whoa, Charlie, you are making enemies over there. Good job trying to open their eyes! It’s ALL of Washington…..

        • must suck when you are accused of “sound[ing] like an astroturfer.”

          To bad astroturfer applies to USWeapon, as we saw last week he admited he was in the pockets of the tobacco industry.

          • And grits…. the grits lobbyists are sure to take good care of me. We cannot allow grits to be replaced on the food chain. It is a vital industry to the south.

            If I am astroturf, does that mean that I ruin people’s knees?

            • USW, according to the 60 minutes show the other night, we can start by putting in a claim for a prosthetic knee (from the astroturf), then turf toe, skin burns, etc. We start in Dade Country, work our way around the state of Florida, then move on to the next 49. Medicaid has to pay within 30 days and it appears they’re too swamped with other phony claims to ever get to ours.

              On the streets they call that a score.

              In Washington it’s called “something we have to look into.”

              Oy-vey …

      • Ray, i’m in the 2nd post down (12 comments last time i looked).

    • Often, when I read Charlie or Mathius – I see their complaint about Free Market System and Capitalism as enforcing poverty on the poor.

      Yet, they both have systemically failed to show how the standard of living for the “poor” is falling. In fact, it is rising – and continues to rise – under the free market system.

      Their argument, thus, falls back into precisely the same argument Marx made when confronted with the fact that industrial capitalism was rising the ‘workers’ standard of living

      Charlie and Matt fall back on the view that what Marx “really” meant by impoverishment was not immiseration but relative deprivation.

      One of the problems with this fallback defense is that impoverishment is supposed to be the motor of the proletarian revolution, and it is difficult to envision the workers resorting to bloody revolution because they only enjoy one yacht apiece while capitalists enjoy five or six!

      As I commented to Charlie before, the extent of his argument is that though the poor are richer than ever in history, he is still angry that the rich are still rich.

      • Now that’s what you say, BF … I don’t agree.

      • Bottom Line says:

        I am considered poor. Life is still pretty comfortable. I’m warm/dry…My belly is full…I’m clean…I have creature comforts like internet, good working vehichle, a buzz later on, cell phone, ect…Life isn’t so bad in impoverished America.

        Of course there are different levels of poor. What about the homeless folks with nothing? They’re no better off than someone in a 3rd world nation. I’m curious how many homeless people they find frozen to death each winter in the U.S.

      • It’s more about opportunity than wealth, BF; a quality of life, so to speak. American Indians living on a reservation might have more of what you consider riches than the ever did, but would you argue they’re better off?

        Let’s get off the backward argument and stick to what is relevant to today. A lot of people cannot afford basic needs (to include health insurance). The controls are in the hands of big money (whether they use government or not). Those born into a life of poverty today are at a serious disadvantage to ever attaining a better quality of life. It isn’t impossible, no, but it remains a tremendous disadvantage when wealth is so consolidated. Wealth needn’t be consolidated (is my argument). I understand yours. I just don’t buy into it.

        • Yes, we will wait to a future posting to continue debate.

          However, I point to your premises:

          Because you believe in wealth consolidation I also surmise you believe in the zero-sum of wealth theory. True?

          And one more thought.

          The question can never be developed backwards in this matter, because no matter what you do, Charlie human suffering will always exist. You cannot eliminate it – ever.

          Thus, it is not the question of where one starts or to what degree one has an advantage or disadvantage.

          The question is whether the environment to freely chose one’s own path for one’s own measure of success exists or not.

          Creating a system of coercion destroys free choice.

          You wish a system which allows free access to opportunity – by promoting a system that destroys such free access. You can see why I see you in near-constant contradiction between your desire and your method.

      • I checked this out on snopes, its true except it was begun under Bush. Phones are becoming a RIGHT, along with food, housing, healthcare, when do they throw in cable TV & surround sound?

        Subject: Safelink Wireless Free phones for welfare recipients

        Unbelievable.read this.

        I checked it out and the site link is below. I’m glad I’m paying for this now…..oh wait…. all you reading this are paying for it, too!

        I had a former employee call me earlier today inquiring about a job, and at the end of the conversation he gave me his phone number. I asked the former employee if this was a new cell phone number and he told me yes this was his
        “Obama phone.” I asked him what an “Obama phone” was and he went on to say that welfare recipients are now eligible to receive (1) a FREE new phone and (2) approx 70 minutes of FREE minutes every month. I was a little skeptical so I Googled it and low and behold he was telling the truth. TAX PAYER MONEY IS BEING REDISTRIBUTED TO WELFARE RECIPIENTS FOR FREE CELL PHONES.

        This program was started earlier this year. Enough is enough, the ship is sinking and it’s sinking fast. The very foundations that this country was built on are being shaken. The age old concepts of God, family, and hard work have flown out the window and are being replaced with “Hope and Change” and
        “Change we can believe in.” You can click on the link below to read more about the “Obama phone”.just have a barf bag ready.

    • The scandal re: 2 or 3 BILLION of fraud PER year has been known for years. Thats why Ive posted, that if there is to be change – fix medicare 1st !

      Just a quick search – http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE59P0L320091026
      * Fraud makes up 22 percent of healthcare waste, or up to $200 billion a year in fraudulent Medicare claims, kickbacks for referrals for unnecessary services and other scams.

      among many others..

    • But, this kind of fraud is almost always present in big government programs. No one in government has adequate incentives to prevent it or to take appropriate action when it is pointed out to them. The woman in the 60 minutes piece said her name had been used fraudulently for 6 years, even though she told Medicare about the problem.

      When big government money is available, all kinds of fraud and corruption follow. If it’s not outright theft, as in Medicare, it will be political or other corruption of some kind.

      Fraud can happen anywhere, but with the government it will inevitably be bigger and slower to be corrected (if it ever is).

      • Fraud in the Free Market system is quickly rooted out as it damages not only the consumers (and hence, they vote with their wallets by NOT buying) – it therefore is fatal for a company (it dies).

        Government is immune to such death and damage – hence, there is not the same circumstance, process, controls, nor measures to discern ‘fraud’ from ‘incompetence’.

  19. http://www.medalerts.org/

    This site databases all what U.S. Government has collected reports of adverse health events that follow the administration of vaccinations.

    Very, very interesting. I did a search on SIDS and Vaccinations – the typical reporting in the MSM about it “not a issue” was pretty much a lie – it is because they limited their search to only a day or two after. Extend it to 5 days, and then 10 days – the numbers are huge.

    Anyway, you guys can look up the data you want on adverse effects of the vaccinations.

  20. HI ALL

    My son worked in the ER yesterday as part of his EMT training, and he said there were a lot of people there who complained of flu like symptoms. Complaining of aches and pains, sore throats, fevers, most of them he said were diagnosed with either a cold, or just plain flu, no swine.

  21. FDA Allows Use of Experimental Antiviral Drug to Treat H1N1

    Monday, October 26, 2009

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is allowing the use of an experimental antiviral drug to treat severe cases of H1N1 or swine flu.

    The drug, Peramivir, is currently being developed by BioCryst Pharmaceuticals Inc. and is undergoing testing required for regular FDA approval.

    The FDA issued a so-called emergency use authorization late Friday that allows doctors to use Peramivir, which is delivered intravenously, in certain hospitalized adult and pediatric patients with confirmed or suspected H1N1 influenza.

    A handful of doctors have already treated patients with severe cases of H1N1 using Peramivir obtained through the agency’s expanded access rules that allow individual patients to obtain experimental drugs if certain conditions are met. The emergency-use authorization allows use of the drug without prior FDA approval.

    The FDA said there’s only limited clinical data about whether Peramivir is safe and effective, but “based upon the totality of scientific evidence available, it is reasonable to believe that peramivir IV may be effective in certain patients.”

    The company said it is completing production of approximately 130,000 courses of peramivir and is prepared to make more, if required.

    The FDA said Peramivir should only be used in patients who have not responded to or can’t take the oral antiviral drug Tamiflu, made by Roche or Relenza, which is an inhaled drug made by GlaxoSmithKline PLC. Like Tamiflu and Relenza, Peramivir works by inhibiting neuraminidase, an enzyme that’s involved with the spread of the influenza virus within the body.

    The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention asked the FDA to grant Peramivir emergency use to help cope with the influenza pandemic which has killed more than 1,000 people in the U.S. since April and hospitalized thousands more. The CDC will control and track distribution of peramivir to hospitals.

  22. More on the causes of 1918 Pandemic

    Salicylates and Pandemic Influenza Mortality, 1918–1919 Pharmacology, Pathology, and Historic Evidence

    http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/606060

    (PS: Salicylates is a component of Aspirin)

  23. He is losing ground big time here in Nevada, his poll numbers are slipping downword pretty fast.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Democrats say Majority Leader Harry Reid intends to include an option for government-run insurance coverage in health care legislation headed for the floor, with an announcement set for later in the day.

    Reid signaled his support for a so-called public option last week, but has yet to discuss his plans in public.

    Democratic officials spoke on condition of anonymity since the announcement has not been made yet.

    Reid is expected to discuss the emerging legislation on Tuesday with members of his party’s rank and file.

    • Judy….keep me posted. We have a very strong military commitment in Nevada for the purpose of defeating Reid. I am not totally sure of the numbers but we have over 300 volunteers that are out and about on blogs, newspapers, radio and TV…disputing the numbers of several things Reid is stating and it appears to be having an effect. The last true poll that I saw showed Reid’s approval rating of 29%. I do not know how accurate that really is but there is a very strong drive going there taking a lesson from the dems on registering and getting out the vote. Thought you would like to know.

      • Thanks D13 and I will keep you posted as to the things I hear here. The poll numbers seem to vary, some say anywhere from 32% down to 25 or so. Guess it depends on what paper you read or what news you listen too. Either way, the people here, especially in Reno are very disgusted with him. I noticed he has some new commercials he’s been throwing around to get his poll numbers back up. They say all the good things he has done for Nevada, NO! I don’t think so.

        You know a couple weeks ago, there was a funeral for one of our local boys who got killed in Afghanistan, he was here with Biden, and do you know, he didn’t even have the courtesy to say anything to the family. I knew Kevin Thomson, not personally, but I knew who he was, he worked at the Scolaris which is right down the street from my house, and he always had a smile on his face, and he helped me several times while I was there. He was a very nice young man, and he went to the same high school as my son did. People who noticed that, didn’t have very nice things to say about him. Won’t mention the names they used for him either.

        • Reno..nice town…I am there every three years to bowl.

          I just checked. We have 112 volunteers in the Reno/Tahoe, Carson City area. we will help all we can.

          • Sounds good D13.

            Do you go to the bowling stadium to bowl when you come here?

            • Yes. Reno did good there. The National Bowling Championships for the men are there every third year. The Nationals for the ladies follow the year after and the National Mixed league the year after. The lanes are in excellent condition and it is for championships only. Not open to the public.

          • D13

            For Ried to lose you must erode his votes in Clark county.

            If he gets a big number in Clark he can win the state, regardless of a 25 to 30% value in the north (Washoe, Carson City, Douglas, Lyon, Story, Churchill and Elko)

            • HEY JAC

              That’s the problem too, because they are more blue there than red.

            • You are quite correct. Clark County is the largest problem but one thing that has surprised us greatly is that the young collegiate group at UNLV is amazingly moderate. Very fiscally conservative.

  24. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/10/25/state/n193421D23.DTL

    If done by the mother, it is a ‘right’.
    If done by the father, it is murder.

    • Go figure. Don’t make say what I really think about that, it wouldn’t be very nice.

    • Saw this article and thought the same thing.

    • Abortion Kills More Black Americans Than the Seven Leading Causes of Death Combined, Says CDC Data

      http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55956

      Abortion killed at least 203,991 blacks in the 36 states and two cities (New York City and the District of Columbia) that reported abortions by race in 2005, according to the CDC. During that same year, according to the CDC, a total of 198,385 blacks nationwide died from heart disease, cancer, strokes, accidents, diabetes, homicide, and chronic lower respiratory diseases combined. These were the seven leading causes of death for black Americans that year.

  25. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091022/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_norway_money_roll

    Great experiments in social order. Public access to everyone’s net worth and tax records in Norway (Charlie’s second favorite nation)

    Let’s expose everyone’s wealth – and consequences? Who knows and who cares, right?

    But some are revealing themselves…

    Besides providing criminals with a useful tool to find prime targets, he said the list generates playground taunts of my-dad-is-richer-than-your-dad.

    “The children of people with low wages are being teased about it in the schools,” Stordrange said Thursday. “People with low salaries are being met with comments at the grocery store, ‘How can you live on these low wages?'”

  26. Nuke the Japanese! (oops, been there, done that I guess)

    Japanese firms to develop small nuclear reactors

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.314f8f63df41800c448cd89e0a88dd31.331&show_article=1

    I believe the price is unde $10 million – I’d like to buy two!

  27. Stratfor on Russia/USA/Iran play.

    As was raised two blogs ago that the Iran/US head butting is helping Russia, Stratfor would suggest complete agreement – much to the loss to the USA.

    ===========

    The end result is that the Americans have been occupied with the Islamic world for some time now, something that secretly delights the Russians.

    The Iranian distraction policy has worked fiendishly well: It has allowed the Russians to reshape their own neighborhood in ways that simply would not be possible if the Americans had more diplomatic and military freedom of action.

    At the beginning of 2009, the Russians saw three potential challenges to their long-term security that they sought to mitigate.

    As of this writing, they have not only succeeded, they have managed partially to co-opt all three threats.

    First, there is Ukraine, which is tightly integrated into the Russian industrial and agricultural heartland. A strong Ukrainian-Russian partnership (if not outright control of Ukraine by Russia) is required to maintain even a sliver of Russian security. Five years ago, Western forces managed to short-circuit a Kremlin effort to firm up Russian control of the Ukrainian political system, resulting in the Orange Revolution that saw pro-Western President Viktor Yushchenko take office. After five years of serious Russian diplomatic and intelligence work, Moscow has since managed not just to discredit Yushchenko — he is now less popular in most opinion polls than the margin of error — but to command the informal loyalty of every other candidate for president in the upcoming January 2010 election. Very soon, Ukraine’s Western moment will formally be over.

    Russia is also sewing up the Caucasus. The only country that could challenge Russia’s southern flank is Turkey, and until now, the best Russian hedge against Turkish power has been an independent (although certainly still a Russian client) Armenia. (Turkish-Armenian relations have been frozen in the post-Cold War era over the contentious issue of the Armenian genocide.) A few months ago, Russia offered the Turks the opportunity to improve relations with Armenia. The Turks are emerging from 90 years of near-comatose international relations, and they jumped at the chance to strengthen their position in the Caucasus. But in the process, Turkey’s relationship with its heretofore regional ally, Azerbaijan (Armenia’s archfoe), has soured. Terrified that they are about to lose their regional sponsor, the Azerbaijanis have turned to the Russians to counterbalance Armenia, while the Russians still pull all Armenia’s strings. The end result is that Turkey’s position in the Caucasus is now far weaker than it was a few months ago, and Russia still retains the ability to easily sabotage any Turkish-Armenian rapprochement.

    Even on the North European Plain, Russia has made great strides. The main power on that plain is the recently reunified Germany. Historically, Germany and Russia have been at each other’s throats, but only when they have shared a direct border. When an independent Poland separates them, they have a number of opportunities for partnership, and 2009 has seen such opportunities seized. The Russians initially faced a challenge regarding German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Merkel is from the former East Germany, giving her personal reasons to see the Russians as occupiers. Cracking this nut was never going to be easy for Moscow, yet it succeeded. During the 2009 financial crisis, when Russian firms were snapping like twigs, the Russian government still provided bailout money and merger financing to troubled German companies, with a rescue plan for Opel even helping Merkel clinch re-election. With the Kremlin now offering to midwife — and in many cases directly subsidize — investment efforts in Russia by German firms such as E.On, Wintershall, Siemens, Volkswagen and ThyssenKrupp, the Kremlin has quite literally purchased German goodwill.

  28. Swine Flu = a bad cold. Crises time like…..global warming. Beware of one thing on your observations of National emergency. None of you, unless you have had the security clearance and the “need to know”, have seen the true powers of the President in an National Emergency. Be wary. It is what is not written that is scary and the unpublished SOP will scare even the most formidable. Read the National Emergency Law and Guidelines very closely….sentence by sentence. It is what is not said.

    Cuba = Talk to em. No money…just talk. See where it goes. Probably nowhere but would be interesting. The Castro thing should have been over long ago. The world is not going to change human rights…so why should we care. However, talk to em but keep the checkbook closed. We owe them nothing. You don’t change history or public opinion with reparations….talk and see what they want, if anything.

  29. Hope this works. Suppose to be Reids Speech on health care.

    http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=4&openAIR=true

  30. WASHINGTON — The Treasury Department and a senior House Democrat have decided against making financial firms pay upfront the costs of dismantling them if regulators decide they have grown “too big to fail.”

    Instead, those companies would be allowed to borrow money from the government to cover the cost of dissolving themselves. The Obama administration and Massachusetts congressman Barney Frank plan to announce the plan by Tuesday.

    Officials have been wrestling with how to pay for a new government program that would dissolve firms that have taken on too much debt and their collapse threatens the broader economy.

  31. Alright all you Nittany Lions on here…….

    What do you think?

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569665,00.html

  32. WHO memos 1972 explains how to turn vaccines into a means of killing
    (from another blog)

    Two key memorandums from WHO, discovered by Patrick Jordan, prove WHO has intentionally created the three-shot killer vaccine that people in the USA and other countries could soon be forced to take.

    1972 WHO Bulletin 47, No 2 Memordanda #1 and #2 Virus-associated immunopathology:

    Animal models and implications for human disease * technically outline the ability to create biological weapons in the form of vaccines that:

    1) First totally disable the Immune System.

    2) Load every cell of the Victim’s body up with Infection.

    3) Switch the Immune System on causing the host to kill themselves in a Cytokine Storm.

    One, Two, Three, Dead.

    These WHO Memorandas describe the three-stage impact of the three “shots” many people will be forced to take this fall to allegedly treat a virus that WHO also helped create and release.

    This is a crucial piece of evidence of WHO’s long-term genocidal intentions that could stand in any court of law because these memorandums give the best and fullest explanation WHO’s and affiliated labs (such as the CDC) current activities, such as their patenting of the most lethal bird flu viruses, their sending that virus to Baxter’s subsidiary in Austria, which weaponised it and sent out 72 kilos to 16 labs in four countries almost triggering a global pandemic.

    For every crime, there needs to be motive, an indication that it was deliberate, planned. The WHO memorandums provide the evidence of just that deliberate, long-term planning to kill people by weakening their immune system by use of the first vaccine, injecting a live virus into their body by a second, and creating a cytokine storm using squalene in a third.

    Download the WHO Memoranda on (add the http:// to the front of these as I removed them to bypass USWep’s filters)

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/tocrender.fcgi?iid=169484

    Scroll down until you find:

    Memoranda
    Virus-associated immunopathology : animal models and implications for human disease:
    1. Effects of viruses on the immune system, immune-complex diseases, and antibody-mediated immunologic injury
    Bull World Health Organ. 1972; 47(2): 257?264.

    PMCID: PMC2480894

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=2480894&blobtype=pdf

    Virus-associated immunopathology: animal models and implications for human disease:
    2. Cell-mediated immunity, autoimmune diseases, genetics, and implications for clinical research
    Bull World Health Organ. 1972; 47(2): 265?274
    PMCID: PMC2480896

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=2480896&blobtype=pdf

    • WHO memos 1972 explains how to turn vaccines into a means of killing

      Two key memorandums from WHO, discovered by Patrick Jordan, prove WHO has intentionally created the three-shot killer vaccine that people in the USA and other countries could soon be forced to take.

      1972 WHO Bulletin 47, No 2 Memordanda #1 and #2 Virus-associated immunopathology:

      Animal models and implications for human disease * technically outline the ability to create biological weapons in the form of vaccines that:

      1) First totally disable the Immune System.

      2) Load every cell of the Victim’s body up with Infection.

      3) Switch the Immune System on causing the host to kill themselves in a Cytokine Storm.

      One, Two, Three, Dead.

      These WHO Memorandas describe the three-stage impact of the three “shots” many people will be forced to take this fall to allegedly treat a virus that WHO also helped create and release.

      This is a crucial piece of evidence of WHO’s long-term genocidal intentions that could stand in any court of law because these memorandums give the best and fullest explanation WHO’s and affiliated labs (such as the CDC) current activities, such as their patenting of the most lethal bird flu viruses, their sending that virus to Baxter’s subsidiary in Austria, which weaponised it and sent out 72 kilos to 16 labs in four countries almost triggering a global pandemic.

      For every crime, there needs to be motive, an indication that it was deliberate, planned. The WHO memorandums provide the evidence of just that deliberate, long-term planning to kill people by weakening their immune system by use of the first vaccine, injecting a live virus into their body by a second, and creating a cytokine storm using squalene in a third.

      Download the WHO Memoranda on:

      http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/tocrender.fcgi?iid=169484
      Scroll down until you find:

      Memoranda
      Virus-associated immunopathology : animal models and implications for human disease:
      1. Effects of viruses on the immune system, immune-complex diseases, and antibody-mediated immunologic injury
      Bull World Health Organ. 1972; 47(2): 257?264.
      PMCID: PMC2480894

      http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=2480894&blobtype=pdf
      Virus-associated immunopathology: animal models and implications for human disease:
      2. Cell-mediated immunity, autoimmune diseases, genetics, and implications for clinical research
      Bull World Health Organ. 1972; 47(2): 265?274
      PMCID: PMC2480896

      http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=2480896&blobtype=pdf

      • Hmmm, wordpress is now ADDING http:// in front of my links…. arggg..!!!

        So add http://www. (including the ‘dot’) in front of my links. I’m trying to bypass its darn http filter.

        ===============

        WHO memos 1972 explains how to turn vaccines into a means of killing

        Two key memorandums from WHO, discovered by Patrick Jordan, prove WHO has intentionally created the three-shot killer vaccine that people in the USA and other countries could soon be forced to take.

        1972 WHO Bulletin 47, No 2 Memordanda #1 and #2 Virus-associated immunopathology:

        Animal models and implications for human disease * technically outline the ability to create biological weapons in the form of vaccines that:

        1) First totally disable the Immune System.

        2) Load every cell of the Victim’s body up with Infection.

        3) Switch the Immune System on causing the host to kill themselves in a Cytokine Storm.

        One, Two, Three, Dead.

        These WHO Memorandas describe the three-stage impact of the three “shots” many people will be forced to take this fall to allegedly treat a virus that WHO also helped create and release.

        This is a crucial piece of evidence of WHO’s long-term genocidal intentions that could stand in any court of law because these memorandums give the best and fullest explanation WHO’s and affiliated labs (such as the CDC) current activities, such as their patenting of the most lethal bird flu viruses, their sending that virus to Baxter’s subsidiary in Austria, which weaponised it and sent out 72 kilos to 16 labs in four countries almost triggering a global pandemic.

        For every crime, there needs to be motive, an indication that it was deliberate, planned. The WHO memorandums provide the evidence of just that deliberate, long-term planning to kill people by weakening their immune system by use of the first vaccine, injecting a live virus into their body by a second, and creating a cytokine storm using squalene in a third.

        Download the WHO Memoranda on:

        pubmedcentral.nih.gov/tocrender.fcgi?iid=169484

        Scroll down until you find:
        Memoranda
        Virus-associated immunopathology : animal models and implications for human disease:
        1. Effects of viruses on the immune system, immune-complex diseases, and antibody-mediated immunologic injury
        Bull World Health Organ. 1972; 47(2): 257?264.
        PMCID: PMC2480894

        pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=2480894&blobtype=pdf
        Virus-associated immunopathology: animal models and implications for human disease:
        2. Cell-mediated immunity, autoimmune diseases, genetics, and implications for clinical research
        Bull World Health Organ. 1972; 47(2): 265?274
        PMCID: PMC2480896

        pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=2480896&blobtype=pdf

    • Well, that’s mighty interesting. Last night I sent a link to USW. Seems the UK Greens are it again about controlling the planet’s human population. They even threw out this nugget:

      It is certainly true that “fewer people equals a greener planet” is simplistic. In 2050, 95% of the extra population will be poor and the poorer you are, the less carbon you emit. By today’s standards, a cull of Australians or Americans would be at least 60 times as productive as one of Bangladeshis.

      I’ve spent all day figuring out just how they would go about it. Now I have an idea. Read the whole thing:

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/25/alex-renton-population-control-climate-change

  33. Check out the cartoon of the day.

  34. Pelosi: Health care ‘public option’ needs new name
    Matt Sedensky – Associated Press Writer – 10/26/2009 2:55:00 PMBookmark and Share

    SUNRISE, Fla. – A government-sponsored “public option” for health care lives, though it may be more attractive to skeptics if it goes by a different moniker, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Monday.

    In an appearance at a Florida senior center, the Democratic leader referred to the so-called public option as “the consumer option.” Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., appeared by Pelosi’s side and used the term “competitive option.”

    Both suggested new terminology might get them past any lingering doubts among the public – or consumers or competitors.

    “You’ll hear everyone say, ‘There’s got to be a better name for this,'” Pelosi said. “When people think of the public option, public is being misrepresented, that this is being paid for with their public dollars.”

    Pelosi said that was a misconception and that any taxpayer money used to start up the public option would be repaid. She also said such an option would ultimately drive down government health care costs.

    The speaker said the “competitive option” idea emerged during her closed-door roundtable at the Sunrise Senior Center with advocates of seniors and others who work with older populations. Wasserman Schultz suggested the term might be here to stay.

    “I think she’s going to go up and test-drive it when she goes back to Washington,” Wasserman Schultz said. “It might stick.”

    As for having the votes to pass such a measure, both women said a public option would survive. They wouldn’t get into numbers of congressional supporters, but said it was simply a matter of picking which type of public option to pursue.

    • R I G H T !! Who cares what it does, as long as it sounds good !!

      Like “Fairness Doctrine” – or – “Employee Free Choice Act” sheez – Are you sure we’re not in the USSR !!

  35. RE: the http issue – I only use FireFox browser which doesnt NEED the http and www to find the correct URL. Try it. Not familiar with IE or others, but expect they probably do the same thing – add http.. .. to beginning of whatever is entered.

    I certainly hope that BF is incorrect, but then I happen to have chronic lyme, which also has been linked to biological warfare studies on Plum Island NY.. And the “official” medical body Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA), ignores the scientific/clinic studies supported by ISLADS – Chronic Lyme Disease and the “Axis of Evil” medscape.com/viewarticle/586226 but like all good powers – if you dont have an explanation – you just CALL THEM CRaZy !! LOL
    Chronic Lyme Disease Patients Often Have Comorbid Psychiatric Illness medscape.com/viewarticle/585949

    Just in time for Halloween !!

  36. Poll: Reid’s re-election numbers don’t add up

    By MOLLY BALL
    LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
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    CARSON CITY — Nearly half of Nevadans have had enough of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as the powerful Democrat heads into his re-election campaign, a new Las Vegas Review-Journal poll finds.

    About a third of the state’s voters would re-elect Reid if the 2010 election were held today, according to the poll, but 45 percent say they would definitely vote to replace him. Seventeen percent would consider another candidate.

    The findings are echoed by another poll question about Reid’s popularity that finds the four-term incumbent to be a polarizing figure in his home state.

    Half of Nevada voters had an unfavorable view of Reid, while 38 percent had a favorable view and 11 percent a neutral opinion.

    The statewide poll of 625 Nevadans who vote regularly was conducted by telephone last week by Washington-based Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. for the Review-Journal. It carries a margin of error of 4 percentage points in either direction.

    Reid’s approval ratings at home have been subpar for years, particularly since he ascended to Democratic leader in 2004 and to majority leader in 2006.

    He had hoped things might improve with the departure of President George W. Bush, but that’s not the case, at least not yet. The poll finds Nevadans are bullish on President Barack Obama even as they are unhappy with Reid.

    Fifty-five percent of those polled viewed Obama favorably, while 30 percent saw him unfavorably and 15 percent were neutral on the new Democratic president, who carried Nevada in last year’s presidential election by 12 percentage points after years of Republican dominance in the state.

    Mason-Dixon Managing Partner Brad Coker said for now, Obama is enjoying a honeymoon with voters, while Reid still gets stuck with people’s negative views of Congress.

    “Obama so far has been able to stay out of the fray and let Reid and (House Speaker Nancy) Pelosi get their hands dirty,” he said. “Obama’s so popular, he’s a hard person to take a shot at right now, so Reid and Pelosi become the punching bags.”

    Nonetheless, Coker said, Reid can expect to capitalize on Obama’s popularity down the line if it lasts — and to pay the price if the president’s political standing takes a turn for the worse.

    “Reid’s fortunes are going to hinge on two things: Does he draw a strong challenger, and what does the economy do,” Coker said. “If Obama and his policies are seen as a success and the economy by mid-2010 appears to be doing better, these numbers will turn around some. The other side of that coin is, if the economy doesn’t seem to be improving, particularly in Nevada,” Reid could have a tough time.

    No major opponent has yet stepped up to face Reid.

    Reid’s campaign manager said the senator does not pay much attention to polls.

    “The primary number Senator Reid is worried about is Nevada’s 10.4 percent unemployment rate, and that’s why he’s focused on fixing the economy and creating jobs in Nevada,” Brandon Hall said. “Polling numbers move up and down. The only poll that really matters is on Election Day.”

    Feelings about Reid were somewhat split along party lines, though more than a third of his own partisans weren’t sold on the senator.

    Some 61 percent of Democrats, 7 percent of Republicans and 30 percent of independent voters said they would vote to re-elect Reid.

    Among Republicans, 71 percent would definitely vote against Reid, a sentiment shared by 20 percent of Democrats and 50 percent of independents.

    Reid’s strongest support was in liberal-leaning Clark County, where 39 percent want to see him re-elected and 42 percent want to replace him. Thirty percent of Washoe County voters and 24 percent of rural Nevadans plan to vote for Reid, while 50 percent and 54 percent, respectively, would vote against him.

    A partisan split also was seen on the question of whether Nevadans believe Obama’s economic stimulus plan is working.

    Overall, 37 percent said yes, 42 percent said no and 21 percent weren’t sure. But Democrats were heavily on the “yes” side, 59 percent to 18 percent, while Republicans said “no,” 69 percent to 14 percent. Independents favored “no” by a narrower margin, 46 percent to 29 percent.

    “The jury is still out,” Coker said. With most of the stimulus money not yet even released, the numbers might have been different if the question was not whether it’s working but whether people approve of it as a policy.

    “The numbers are mixed and it’s split along party lines,” he said. “Twenty-one percent are saying, ‘We don’t know yet.’ We’ll track this and see how it changes.”

    Reid’s fellow Nevadan in the Senate, Republican John Ensign, continues to enjoy high marks from voters, with 53 percent viewing him favorably and 18 percent unfavorably.

    Another member of the state’s delegation who’s often mentioned as a potential Reid challenger, Rep. Dean Heller, was unknown or neutrally viewed by a majority of voters. Thirty percent viewed him favorably, 15 percent unfavorably.

    Contact reporter Molly Ball at mball@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2919.
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    • What they neglect to say is, that say polled more democrats.

    • I put this up for D13, and I hope he will see it.

      • Got it…aware of it already….but Nevada is not my bailiwick….Just have a lot of retired military friends there. My group is concentrating on Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and New Mexico.

  37. Who says “Deflation”???

    No one here I hope.

  38. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/category/household.html

    Useful website – product recall list.

    • Skimmed it quickly – at least two recalls on Women’s shoes due to the possibility of falling??

      And tons of candles recalled due to fire hazard…..huh? Yep, you let those suckers burn to the table and they can start a fire!

    • Good Lord BF, where did you find that? Looks like there isn’t anything they haven’t recalled. Like Kathy, I could only skim through it. I guess everything I have in my house is either a choking hazard or a fire hazard.

  39. http://www.semp.us/publications/biot_reader.php?BiotID=394

    Interesting story on the history of Zionism.

    I offer this article, as many claim that the reason for Israel was due to the crimes against the Jews during the Nazi regime.

    But as this article demonstrates, Zionist claims towards Palestine (yes, that is what they called the region in the 1800’s) predates that often stated motive.

    Hope this creates more debate.

  40. Hope all will have a good night.

    Pleasant dreams everybody.

    Good Night

    Judy

  41. WELL, I had a bad cold about 2 weeks ago, took vitamin D, Calcium, Vit E, Vit A, this one be careful, not too much, a big dose then skip a few days, fish oil, lots of fluid, rest, but didn’t interfere with my normal routine, what interfered with my routine, last Friday, my only sister, died, 88 years old, had a fractured hip, after surgery put in a nursing home without consent of her 52 year old son, who wanted her home, but he went to see her, her tongue was being swalled by her, he yelled for nursing help, got and he yelled some more to get her back in a hospital, finally they told him, they had her sign a form to not resusitate in case of, she went to hospital in Crescent City, I called she was better, so they were dressing her to drive her back to nursing home, so i couldn’t talk to her, ambulance took her and on the way she died. So, sorry to tell, but it is about health care, I guess, I not too great today. God Bless all who post and care about our problem.

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