A 20 Year Old College Student Runs the World…

There I was, skimming the political news this evening, still smarting over winning my final 4 games in fantasy football only to not make the playoffs because of one win on the final day by the team I needed to lose to enable me to get in. As I contemplated the repercussions in the fantasy world of finishing with a better record than two of the 4 teams that made the playoffs (they won their division, last place in my division would have won their division), I stumbled across the “grade” that Barack Obama has given himself for his first year in office. It was an interview with fellow sham town hero Oprah, and he exclaimed that he feels he earned a “solid B plus” for his first year. As I chuckled to myself, I realized that The Obama administration is just like every single graduate of a college with a business degree as they enter the workforce.

Let’s be specific with what was said and the context of his self evaluation. According to the article that I read on the interview, Obama claimed progress in both economic and international fronts. He further claimed that the only thing that stands in the way of giving himself a better grade was the fact that some of his agenda items remain undone, namely health care reform and putting more Americans to work. So allow me to expound, if I could, on the areas that the President offered his grades on.

To claim that he made progress on economic fronts is laughable. We had a TARP implementation that has been a total farce (Yes I am aware it passed under Bush, but it was monitored and implemented by Geithner). We have had the banks that are too big to fail actually get bigger since his inauguration. The big four now control 66% of credit cards and 50% of mortgages in the US. We have watched the dollar continue to slide. We have watched Wall Street and the banks go right back to the predatory and speculative practices that got us in the fire in the first place. Barney Frank continues to push for more high risk loans, albeit for condos now instead of houses. He ran the federal government at a deficit three times larger than any other year in the history of the United States. We watched as Congress increased the debt ceiling, not once, but twice, this year. He got an economic stimulus package passed that didn’t stimulate, and Cap and Trade and Health Insurance reform have both passed the House, which will lead to financial ruin for this country. I could go on and on, but I think I can say that “progress” is not the word I would use to describe what has been done on economic fronts.

On international fronts, we are just as bad. We had a President bow to several foreign leaders that he had no business bowing to. We had several speeches abroad that consisted of stating that the United States is not a Christian country and that we are to blame for the world’s ills. We had a President give the Queen of England an iPod and some DVD’s in exchange for a pen made from the wood of a slave ship. We have seen increased rhetoric with Iran, an abandonment of Israel, and a G20 summit that set us up to be controlled by world opinion. We still have Cuba, Venezuela, and our other southern neighbors still talking trash to the White House. We had the world’s most powerful leader remain mute on the violence against students in Iran. We have a President willing to throw away all our nukes while every other country on earth either keeps theirs or endeavors to get them if they don’t have them. I guess my conclusion on international affairs would be something other than “progress” as well.

He further stated that, “On the plus side, we are on our way out of Iraq.” And, he added, “I think we’ve got the best possible plan for Afghanistan.” OK, look, the President cannot be allowed to attempt to take a single bit of credit for where we are in Iraq. The exit strategy in Iraq was set by the Bush administration. Obama has not done one single thing in Iraq that has made anything better or faster. It is interesting to me that he inherited every bad aspect of the US from Bush, but when it is a positive, he didn’t inherit it, he takes credit for it. As for Afghanistan, we have spent plenty of time covering that debacle over the last couple of weeks, so I will leave it at saying we don’t have the best possible plan, we have a slightly less shitty plan than we had before, and it took you 10 months to come up with that.

On his disappointing aspects, those few things that stood in the way of a higher grade, we have job growth and health care reform. “The biggest burden on me right now is that economic growth has happened, but job growth has not happened,” Obama told Winfrey on the ABC special. “Job growth hasn’t happened”? That is a vast understatement. When President Obama was selling his $787 billion stimulus to the American people he promised unemployment would never rise above 7.8%. As we stand here today in December it is over 10%. The American economy has lost over 4 million jobs since Obama was sworn into office (yet the White House claims to have “saved” 650k jobs). Rather than getting job growth, the Obama administration has instead killed successful welfare reforms, increased the length of unemployment benefits, used taxpayer money to pay for COBRA programs. On the positive side, he has done his part for job creation. He took roughly 100 people who are unemployable in the private markets and appointed them to positions within the White House and his cabinet.

As for his failure to get health care reform. Here’s to hoping that remains the case. Because health care reform has instead turned into health insurance reform, which is little more than a punishment of the private market and putting the planks in place to driven private insurers out of business so that he can later get the health care reform he really believes in.

And beyond all of the above, I think that he has done more to drive this country apart than I can recall any President doing in my lifetime. Partisanship has been steadily growing over the last decade, but I believe it is at a new height in today’s political spectrum. It has always existed, but it is as bitter and nasty and dividing as ever. We now have a liberal media literally calling anyone who opposes the liberal plan racists, thugs, radicals, traitors, rednecks. We have a Speaker of the House comparing health insurance reform opposition to slavery. We have some of the most radical statements directed at the general public that I have ever heard coming from members of Congress. We have had all opposition to Obama mantras listed as racism. The race card has been played more in politics in the last year than ever before. I understand the President doesn’t control everything, but the second you believe that he doesn’t have the power to control members of his own party, you are fooling yourself. The President could have put the Ki-bosh on the partisanship and claims of racism at any point if he so chose. He has not done so, and I have to wonder why.

Perhaps he is taking the same tactic he takes with the birthers. He cannot simply step forward and prove something wrong or make a public statement saying the claims of racism are out of line. To do so would be to legitimize the idiots and simply bring more radical statements. Yeah, that’s it (and by the way, I am not a birther, as many of you know, but that reason being offered as the reason why he doesn’t simply prove his citizenship is one of the weakest arguments I have ever heard).

So given my assessment, and I remind you all that it is the opinion of Just a lonely citizen who is unhappy with our path forward, I offer that he has not earned a B plus. I would give him a D. At best. I think that he has fundamentally failed at nearly everything over the first year. I think he has made the US look sophomoric and weak. I think he has put plans in place that will prolong the recession and possibly permanently crush us economically. I think he has allowed the country to become so divided that we are closer than we have been in 150 years to a civil war. He has created an environment of increased racial tensions. He has further eroded the little faith the American public has in the federal government.

So to hear him say that he believes that he has earned a B+, and only missed a higher grade because of job growth and a failure to pass health care reform, tells me that the President and his administration are living in an alternate reality. That is the reality of the 20 year old college student. Allow me to explain.

I know you have all known them. The kids still in or recently graduated from college who enter into the real world of work and feel as they know everything. I know a kid that believes he is never wrong. He will read a single statement on first aid and then attempt to tell an doctor “I think I know better than you, I took first aid in college.” He will read an MSNBC website article and tell someone who has read 100+ books on politics that they have no idea what they are talking about. The sad part is that no one respects him because of it. He is a smart and likable guy. But he doesn’t yet understand how much he doesn’t know. But all those veterans around him know how much he doesn’t know. Some try to cover for him. Others expose him at every turn.

So when it comes to business, these kids are working on a business degree and they enter the workforce where they are suddenly working side by side with folks who have been doing the work of the business world for 20 years or more. And they will proceed to tell those veterans how their business model is all wrong, how the company has no right to demand that you actually show up to work on time, or how much smarter in business they are in general because, after all, they went to college to get a business degree. See, they have learned so much “book information” about business that they now know 5000% more than they did four years ago so they figure if they learned that much they must know it all. They fail to realize that your years of experience massively trump their book learning. For their first few years of being in the workforce, they buck every system. They constantly question every decision, every policy, and every plan. After a couple of years they learn that they knew absolutely nothing about the business world. It reminds me of an old commercial I used to love.

I don’t even remember what the commercial was for. There was a middle age woman showing a young college graduate around on his first day of work. She sits him down at a computer and says, “so we are going to start you off entering this data into the computer.” The young man looks distressed and says, “I can’t do that.” She answers, “sure you can, I will show you how step by step, don’t worry.” He says, “you don’t understand ma’am, I have a MBA!” She stops, looks at him and says, “ohhhh, in that case I will go really slow.”

That is the young college graduate. They have learned just enough to think they know everything. And it will take years of failure before they are able to grasp the fact that they were absolutely lost when they began. My solace with the young man I mentioned above is that one day he will look back and realize that working for me was one of the best jobs he ever had, and he will realize that my years of experience trumped his self realized wisdom by a long shot. And he will realize that I actually liked him, and my challenging him was to help him learn and grow. As Mrs. Weapon says, each year we learn just how much less we really know. A very profound statement Mrs. W.

And that is our current administration. They are that 20 year old college kid. They have no idea just how much they don’t understand about the way that the world works. They are the tree hugging idealists that shed their bras and chanted “give peace a chance” with a candle in their hand. The problem is that they are the 20 year old college kid who’s father has passed and they ended up as the guy who runs the company. They have a short time to either grow up and start listening to those who know better or their company will go bankrupt. Their self assessment at the one year point tells me they haven’t learned anything yet. They still think running the company is no different than working in the mail room, you just get a better office. Let’s hope they learn their lesson before its too late. Even more important, let’s hope they can admit their mistakes and correct their path once they do.


  1. Good Morning!

    Just posting for comments. On thee short, I would give Obama a grade of “C”. I think that because he has so many people that still believe he knows what he is doing is quite an accomplishment. I don’t think he knows what he is doing at all, in any political front. I would give him a “D-“. Why not an “F”? I think he will make matters worse, and want some wiggle room in my grade scale.

    Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah!


  2. Actually the TARP program was not only passed during the Bush Administration but administered and monitored by Paulson appointee. Paulson tapped the 35 yo Neel Kashkari, naming him the interim assistant secretary of the treasury for financial stability, with a nickname of TARP or Bailout Czar under Bush. He was asked to stay on by the Obama administration only to quit later. He was replaced by Geithner.

    I think his grade is FAIL. But agree that what this administration is doing doesn’t work for me nor the majority of people in this country. Again it is all about them and their cronies. This administration won’t be any different than the last. We had people who after 8 years couldn’t admit their mistakes, and this will be the same. More cronyism, bailouts, rich getting richer and screw the rest of us. We are going downhill and the slide started way earlier than this.


  3. D- Let us not forget the promise “I will have the most transparent and open presidency ever” We will not hide behind closed doors, the American people will know what we are doing. Yeah right.

    • I give him a D- soon to be an F. What a complete joke of a President. He is either deliberately (along with Congress) attempting to destroy the US as we know it or incompetent.

      The one thing he and congress did was open my eyes. I knew this man was a fraud last year and he continues to prove it every day. Government actions led me to listen to talk radio, search things on the internet, find this site and others and see that government is evil.

    • Hey BamaDad – Congrats on your Heisman winner!

  4. v. Holland says:

    Personally I will give Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi a D only because the country hasn’t collapsed yet and because they seem to be running it, of course Obama may deserve an A for just making it look that way- I will give Obama a C for his acting ability, an A in Double speak, and an F because of his total lack of diplomatic protocal.

  5. Good Morning, USW…hope things find you well. I have quite a few things to say but this time I will write it in Word and then spell check, proof read, cut and paste and hopefully I will not hit the post three times or something. What I don’t know how you and some do, is use the different colors and italics and such. I cannot do that. It must have something to do with word press, I guess. Anyway, I will have to give Obama a number grade instead of a letter grade. That number grade is 60. Now, when I went to school, that was a failing grade…I understand that in the world of political correctness, there are schools that do not give lower than a 50 because it is too hard to bring the grade back up…but…I am not politically correct.

    On another note, as to your MBA analogy…..well, sir. I have an MBA and you know what I have to say about your analogy? You can take your analogy and………..you ready for this?………and put quotes around it. You are quite correct. Other than taking 5.5 years to accomplish (four years undergraduate work and 1.5 years of graduate work) and an education expense of over $40,000 in 1960,s and 1970’s money, the MBA prepared me for nothing except to have three initials behind my name if I so choose. Oh, don’t get me wrong… I learned a lot of accounting procedures (MBA is in finance)and technical definitions and theory. I learned the then definitions of macro and micro economics and application theory that has been espoused over the years from European and Eastern models. I did take several courses in international finance and learned nothing but theory and that the practical applications of international finance were, at best, a blue print of socialist theory. I then wanted to get a PHD in business in some manner only to find out that the only PHD available at that time was in…….you guessed it…….economics. I fell under the hypnotic mantra of the more the better and promptly enrolled in the PHD program only to find that it was the worst experience of my life (including Vietnam) and dropped out after only ONE…yes, count it……ONE semester. So, my analogy, is that an MBA is a lot like being commissioned a 2lt. You learned theory and applications but NOTHING of the real world except that the theory and applications that you learned in college mean precisely ZIPPO when you step in the battlefield of business EXCEPT that you can talk theory with the best of them. BUT, I do have the MBA and I can say that I finished it with a GPA 3.85. Did not make a perfect 4.0 because I disagreed with the philosophy of a particular professor and I was punished for it because I refused to change a paper that he wanted me to change. (He was a supporter of Karl Marx in macro economics).

    So, I will wish to dissect your article and respond by this afternoon and I will try to keep it short and to the point. In my opinion, you are correct in pointing out the issues and I will try to throw my 2 cents in and support my opinions. But, what the hell, I am just a retired lame brained Colonel who knows nothing….but still have the freedom to respond and will do so.


    • D13:

      Dear Colonel,

      It seems you and your fellow Texicans have done gone and pissed off the EPA.

      They are now beginning to resupply in anticipation of the upcoming battle with you delusional private landowner rights, flat earther, crowd.


      Live Free

      • Hey there, JAC. We manage to piss of some governmental agency and I always have my sights set on pissing them off just so I can. The Glock is a nice weapon…not my choosing. I prefer a Colt .45 for close in fighting or a Browning Hi Power for over 50 feet. Teflon Coated Black Talon hollow point is a nice round for the .45…Lead tipped hi power 9mmm for the Browning is pretty good. But…bring ’em on.

        Our sign says “Trespassers will be shot…survivors will be shot again.”

        What else does a retired lame brained Colonel who knows nothing do? Got to have the smell of cordite and gunpowder to keep the senses alive, ya know? Can’t use Napalm anymore….that was really wicked stuff. Can’t use phosphorous anymore…Don’t have access to air strikes any longer… life is getting boring….so pissing off the EPA is a pretty good start, doncha’ think?

        • D13:

          I think the EPA is a damn fine start. Just holler if and when you need help. I’m bettin there’s a few hundred, or more, Montanans that would come to your aid.

          I prefer the 12 guage up close and the .243 or .306 from farther distance. A .50 Hawken muzzleloader is good from inside 100 yards but takes to long to reload.

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      D13 – I would be curious to determine what you expected from the MBA program/experience – that often colors how one views it after-the-fact.

      I also think that, perhaps you are unwilling to recognize that you did gain something from it – improvements in critical thinking, affirmation of your business/economic philosophies, etc.

      I finished an MBA 2 years ago. I pursued it for the following specific reasons:

      1. I wanted to open doors that were not open to me for the simple reason that I did not have the degree – Check!

      2. I wanted to challenge my own assumptions and beliefs about business and the relevant subject matter (e.g. finance, operations, strategy, negotiation, etc). I was a firm believer for a while that simply because I have ‘been there and done that’ that was the only way to go – nothing to teach this old dog. – Check!

      3. I wanted to begin the process of teaching at the post-secondary level as I believe that scholar-practitioners have far more to offer than mere scholars or mere practitioners. – Partial Check! (still working on the final leg)

      I did not do it because I believed it would make me rich (it hasn’t) or I would have some ‘three letters behind my name’ trump card to use on people (will never happen).

      Anyway – why did you do it?

      • Here’s my thought on a MBA (or any other degree)

        A waste of time and money unless you want to work for government and middle management in big business.

        All it says is that you can sit for 6 years – bored to tears – and regurgitate what they say to you.

        It is hunting license for a mediocre job.

        I say, take your $40,000 to $100,000 and start a business.

      • Yo Ray, my friend….

        you must remember that I was raised by the Ozzie and Harriet and Beaver Cleaver generation where it was imperative to have a college degree. It was not a choice when I was growing up…it was expected. So, I grew up with the expectation of getting a college degree. When I donned my rebellious hat and split to do own thing, I was immediately labeled as the “black sheep”….but that is ok. It was quite funny…my parents taught me to be independent and when I exercised that…they went orbital.

        1. My primary plan from college was to play professional golf but I wanted a BBA to learn business basics and to have something to fall back on if golf did not work out. Yes, I planned as a youngster…go figure. I was fortunate that I went to college on a four year scholarship…room, board, and tuition and books as long as I played golf. However, we were not football jocks and actually had to maintain a 3.0 GPA (On a 4 point system)to retain full scholarship. So, I received my BBA. I was taught at an early age that a college education opened doors.

        2. Vietnam and the introduction of the lottery system and the revocation of the 2-s deferment interrupted my golf career. Upon graduation, I voluntarily joined the military to keep from being drafted and sent to Vietnam. Well, THAT did not work because I got blinded my uniforms and medals and volunteered for the Special Forces and went to Vietnam anyway. I received several wounds from that conflict that ended my golf career, so after rehab, I returned to the states to work. Because I was a Vietnam Veteran, I could got get work…even with a BBA.

        3. So, I elected to use my GI Bill and get an MBA. The reason was to open more doors as a college degree was considered necessary to separate me from those that did not have one. Therefore, to answer your question, I furthered my education in the field of finance since most people majored in Management. I thought that the fact that having an MBA would be beneficial for job placement.

        4. The reason that I could not get work was the fact that I was a Vietnam Veteran and worse, I volunteered. That was the kiss of death back then, so, my MBA did not help me in that situation.

        5. However, I did learn the strategies and theories and especially learned about economics because I became interested in international economics but my PRIMARY reasoning was to open doors to give me an edge and to do so in a field that was not easily obtained.

        6. I have no desire to teach or become a professor of any kind, so that was not a reason at all.

        7. I also knew that it would not make me rich and did not plan on it that way. Just getting a degree for the sake of getting one is not where I was headed. If that was the case I would have picked a much easier route than business school but the economic model back pointed that direction. I thought it would be useful to get me into positions where I could gain experience and learn and then strike out on my own. That was my reasoning.

        I read USW’s article as not a slap at being an MBA and I merely likened it to being a 2lt. It was a starting point. Many an MBA has started in the mail room and not the board room….I understood his analogy to be that like Obama…a neophyte who thinks he knows more simply because he was President. I was agreeing that obtaining an MBA is like that…it is a starting point to grow from and an MBA does not mean that the workplace is going to roll over because there are some initials behind the name. An MBA means nothing without experience. That was my point and I think, USW’s.

        I do not regret getting it and would do so again. I just wish there was something else to go into back then other than economics. Economics is great theory but blows and changes in the wind. Sort of like snow flakes…no two economists agree on anything….like global warming scientists. So that is where I stopped but the education was worth it as a personal satisfaction.

        • These days a college education is nothing more than extortion in order to get a key to open one of the many locks that government has placed on most aspects of society.

          • Ray Hawkins says:

            DKII – it isn’t extortion – its a price of entry – I have learned a lot through close to 21 years now of formal schooling – some of that I may have gained organically – but it would have been much more difficult. No one is holding a gun to my head now and the Feds have nothing to do with my current or next job.

        • D13,

          You are dead on to what my point was. I certainly wouldn’t take any shots at an MBA. That would be silly from someone like me who has pursued degree after degree. The point was only that many young’uns think they know it all, and I though the MBA example could be understood by more folks than the 2LT example.

          It seems you understood what I was saying precisely.

          • Ray Hawkins says:

            USW – the case could be made for most any graduate degree – many schools now offer the combo route that is nothing more than a couple more classes and a half-assed project and whoila – the kid is now a ‘master’ of something. I cannot count how many MIS/IT kids I used to have forced down my throat that could not tell the difference between a cross-over cable and a straight through cable yet they’d brag on how well they could play Comfortably Numb on Guitar Hero.

            Having said that – I will take a ‘young-un’ that isn’t completely jaded by years of shitty work experience, or isn’t an asshole with ‘skin in the game’ embittered by years of fucking their lives up with bad career choices BUT is at least humble, willing to try and learn and fail and can use their enthusiasm to help rather than demean their older co-workers.

  6. Ray Hawkins says:

    Read this statement: “He will read an MSNBC website article and tell someone who has read 100+ books on politics that they have no idea what they are talking about.”

    Okay – so I get the idea – in order for one to really understand politics they have to read a lot of books about it?

    But wait a second:

    “They fail to realize that your years of experience massively trump their book learning”

    “They constantly question every decision, every policy, and every plan.”

    “See, they have learned so much “book information” about business that they now know 5000% more than they did four years ago so they figure if they learned that much they must know it all.”

    So now I am confused! What matters most? You initially suggest that one’s voracious book appetite places them somewhere near the top of the food chain on understanding politics (so long I guess as they read the right books and subscribe to the right ideals). But – you then come down fairly hard on experience – one should not be considered ‘serious’ in business unless they have the right amount of experience under their belts. Mmmmm – okay. But here is the rub – can one or should one have a legitimate voice in politics or about politics if they have never worked in politics?

    Just sayin’

    btw – I do get what you mean about the fresh-faced kid – I have a brother-in-law that is on a bio chem track – is in Hopkins now in his 3rd year and wants to go straight through PhD. Am sure he will be very opinionated on what is right and what is wrong.

    • Ray

      Come on dear sir. Certainly you get the hierarchy and just wish to antagonize again.

      Experience plus education is the trump of trumps.

      Experience alone trumps book knowledge alone.

      Book knowledge (education) trumps watching TV and listening to radio and checking out a few web sites.


      100 books read trumps one or two web sites visited.

      Regarding who should participate or have a legitimate voice in politics, you need to describe what you include under the definition of politics. Obvioulsy we are all entitled to have a legitimate voice in the broader politics of govt’s purpose and its relationship to our soveriegnty.

      But if you are talking about the politics of bearuecratic wrangling and agency management, well I would say experience would give you a leg up in that dept.

      Hope you had a nice weekend.

      • Ray Hawkins says:

        Go ahead JAC – ignore The Red Book! 🙂

        I’ll say simply that working in government (local) gave me a perspective I sorely lacked before.

    • Ray,

      As JAC said, you are being antagonistic. The analogy works perfectly. No the books alone do not mean that they are the standard. The point was that someone who reads a single article and feels they now know more than someone who has studied a subject for years.

      What’s worse, you know that. Some days you just make me chuckle. You are a smart guy, and you completely understand the analogy I am making. Not all college kids are this way. But we all know some who are. Why, with all the information in a 2000+ word article, are you choosing to pick at my description of the 20 year old know it all?


      • Ray Hawkins says:

        It was tongue in check USW – so lighten up K? I meet 22-year old know-it-alls everyday – all armed with graduate degrees and not a lick of experience. Experience does not always equal talent or good decision making though – I think we all agree with that.

        I would suggest that many of the college kids today fit the bill you describe – I say that because many folks I have met are basing dissertations on this quagmire that we are in with this generation – the millenials are a whole different animal and many are parented by people our own ages – what the hell happened? I encourage my academic colleagues to write on these topics because it puzzles and pisses me off that we have a whole generation in front of us with unrealistic expectations, they demand immediate gratification, and they do not believe in an ounce of sweat to earn their keep. My brother-in-law has never, repeat, never worked a paying job (he is now twenty years old – at that age, during summers I worked two full time jobs). He has the same parents as my wife. I love my in-laws – and granted their if 17years difference between him and my wife – I cannot fathom how things went so stray. Sorry to get it personal – but wanted to show in depth example.

        • Sorry if I misunderstood your tongue in cheek.

          “Experience does not always equal talent or good decision making though – I think we all agree with that.”

          We can absolutely agree on that. This is why I have done as you have, and pursued both experience and education.

          I often wonder what happened as well. We worked in high school, worked through college. I was taught that you have to work hard to get ahead, a priniple that I have stuck with and it has not failed me thus far.

          Thanks for the personal example. I think it hammers home the point about the change in today’s expectations.

          • Ray Hawkins says:

            USW – (or anyone) – but how the hell did that happen? My grandparents generation – on Mom’s side worked on farms in North Dakota, Dad’s side they all worked in the Delta plants in Georgia or farmed. My Mom and Dads generation – also worked their asses off. Most I know – you included – had a work ethic burned into them. I remember how hard it was to find work while back in the hometown – you were glad to find work and it gave you some backbone. But – something happened – it is people my own age (I am 38) that had kids 10-15 years before I that all of a sudden created a generation of self-entitled lazy-ass monsters. Its my own in-laws that forgot after 17 years how to raise a kid.

            But this is why I enjoy hearing from the likes of JAC or Peter or Flag or Kent – or Bama or D13 or G-Man or Judy or Cindy or, hell, you get the picture. I may be an odd man out in here politically, but man I get frustrated when I see this constant go-round of lazy-ass entitled kids who don’t give a shit and are perpetuated by a work culture that says we need to accommodate the millenials rather than fight them. Perhaps this is why I say my brand of liberalism is a little different – I want to help you, I will help you, but just once and then you are on your own – so maybe it is that ‘help’ as it were a generation or two ago got jacked up into permanent entitlement that kids, even from well-to-do families are raised to expect rather than work for gratification.

    • Ray,

      I got a little confused, what grade do you give Obama?

      • Ray Hawkins says:

        LOI – I hate these grading exercises – and shame on Obama for taking bait. How self-aware to give yourself a B+!

        So – much as I criticize it – I’d say maybe a C-minus – but he has a lot of assignments due and I’m not sure if he is going to turn in good work or not.

        • v. Holland says:

          This was an interview with Oprah, I seriously doubt he was being baited-I suspect he knew and approved every question.

  7. I give him a B+, which may soon be raised to an A+.

    He has accomplished almost everything on his agenda. They are about to pass another pork filled spending bill for him to sign. The health care bill may soon pass. Cap & Trade is still possible. They have talked about another stimulus.

    Given, every move they have made has done more harm to the country. But that’s not really important. They are achieving their liberal dreams, and we will all be happier with government running and controlling everything.

    The only thing they have not thought to do yet is mandate that conservatives be put on Prozac 24/7, so that when they crash the economy and turn us into a third world nation, we will be happy and compliant. Look for that to be in the final health bill.

    WASS (We Are So Screwed, Credit JAC )

    On Morning Joe this AM, they did a short segment on a Pew Research report that says our economy is about to reach unsustainable debt, due to government’s overspending. Could not find a link, maybe later today.

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      By Tom Blumer
      December 14, 2009 – 10:26 ET

      In a Washington Post opinion piece published on December 6, longtime expansionary entitlement program apologists Peter Edelman and Barbara Ehrenreich ripped into the 1996 welfare reform law and its alleged effect on the poor during the struggling economy of the past two years.

      In the course of their rant, Edelman and Ehrenreich told readers something that the rest of the press has largely ignored since Barack Obama took office in January: Homelessness is up, as in way, way up:


      “Only” 10 “tent cities”? “ONLY” 10?

      Though “only” is a word the mayors’ report used (more Dear Leader protection, it would appear), that doesn’t excuse the wire service from missing this “little” tidbit in that same report:

      Detroit, Los Angeles, Nashville, Charleston, and Providence all reported that new tent cities or other large homeless encampments have arisen over the past year. Des Moines, Phoenix, Sacramento, and Seattle all report that their existing tent cities or homeless encampments have increased in size over the past year.

      Wow. Five new Obamavilles, and four others getting bigger, and it’s not news. Imagine that.

    • Greenspan, Cramer Argue Government ‘Agenda’ Inhibiting Economic Recovery

      By Jeff Poor
      December 14, 2009 – 08:34 ET

      In his 1981 inaugural address, former President Ronald Reagan said, “Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem.” Nearly 29 years later, that still holds true according to CNBC “Mad Money” host Jim Cramer and former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan.

      Both Cramer and Greenspan were guests on NBC’s Dec. 13 “Meet the Press” and although neither was making a vain effort to be nostalgic, but instead explained that Congress’ deliberations over an “agenda” was creating uncertainty for business.

      “I think the priority ought to be get rid of the agenda,” Cramer said. “I hear the agenda over and over again from business people.


      • LOI

        Notice at the end Greenspan makes a big deal out of the increased equity represented by the stock market increase, and how that has eliminated the bank solvency problem. What Mr. Greenspan was saying is that the Banks have improved their balance sheets by making money in the market with the free money the govt gave them.

        He also emphasize that there had been a half trillion dollar increase in 401 K values.

        In summary, our asset values have increased raising our equity and therefore we CAN START BORROWING AGAIN.

        Just freaking brilliant.

        The only real increase in purchasing power is to those who make their living churning the stock market. Some one should remind Mr. Greenspan that 401K’s are locked up and the owners can’t use the damn money until they are old enough.

        Don’t get me wrong, this is all a good thing, if it were based on projections of true economic health. But it is not. Part of the market increase is tied to devaluation of the dollar. Some is to those areas where spendulus will help the bottom line in the short run.

        However, I did like his very short NO answer to whether there should be more stimulus.

        And for the record, Cramer is a joke when it comes to large scale economic issues. If “universal single payer health care” is desirable, as Mr. Cramer claims, then it is ALWAYS desirable, not just when the economy is doing fine.

        If it is NOT good when the economy is struggling then it is ALWAYS NOT GOOD.

        That is the simplest test I can think of regarding federal programs. If you can’t afford it during bad times then you can’t afford it EVER.

        The best to you today LOI.
        Stay warm and dry.

        • JAC,

          Having a truly crappy day at work. Things that cannot go wrong, are. Such is life.

          “Some one should remind Mr. Greenspan that 401K’s are locked up and the owners can’t use the damn money until they are old enough.”

          Want to bet Pelosi tries to tax our 401’s before we even draw from them? If they show a profit, it should be taxed!

          May hit 60 today, rain has left, so pretty nice. I saw this morning that Australia got snow two weeks into their summer. Hehehe

          • Good Day JAC,

            Sorry to hear Murphy’s Law is kickin’ in for you today. And just to add to your swell day, let me mention that I keep hearing that Congress is working on rolling/CONFISCATING our IRAs and 401ks into a GRA (Guaranteed Retirement Account). Next time I get something on this, I’ll post, if you’re interested…

            • Buck The Wala says:

              Hey Cyndi,

              I read something briefly about those GRAs not too long ago – if memory serves me correct, it was an idea thrown out there by someone that was kicked around and then discarded due to complete lack of support. It was one of the many ideas thrown out there over the past year in regards to the estate tax.

              If you heard something more definite with that, I’d really appreciate you posting a link. Thanks!

    • A more critical analysis shows that our government is now spending $2.09 for every $1.00 of revenue. Any household or business with this unsustainable 2:1 spending-to-income ratio would be filing for bankruptcy.

      Note that tax revenues are down $42 billion from last year. We can now justifiably ask, “So how successful was that stimulus package, Mr. President?”


    • Hello LOI!

      You took the report card right outta my hand! Yes, he gets an A+ when the country finally impodes. I give it a year to eighteen months.

  8. Great article and analogy USW. I too, have worked with some of those young know-it-alls.

    LOI and Cyndi are correct in that in his eyes and with his agenda, he’s doing great, so not surprising at his high self-grade.

  9. Judy Sabatini says:

    Hi All

    All I’m going to say is, that I give not just Obama an F, but I give his whole administration one. Why, because of where they’re taking this country, and what they’re doing to it.

    That’s all I have to say on that.

    Hope all is having a good day today.

    Take care now


  10. Ray Hawkins says:

    Using the Politifact numbers and assessment:

    He made a total of 516 promises. Of these:

    68 were kept
    16 were kept but made with compromises
    8 were broken
    30 were stalled
    184 are in the works
    208 are not yet rated

    In my book this leaves 94 grade-able attributes – which in this case would result in an 89% – or a B+

    This is merely assessing against what he said he would do

    I honestly think the jury is out on a lot of things – but things still look ominous in many ways

    Its easy to say ‘the war is now yours’ since you committed more troops to it, for some reason we will not acknowledge that an element of consumer confidence is having confidence (regardless of short or long term reality) that things will improve.

    A more appropriate view or assessment may focus on critical issues. The politifact assessment is skewed because weighing an objective such as “Expand the Senior Corps volunteer program” is a little different than “fix Afghanistan” – the trouble in grading is that you’re going to view the grading through your own lens or interpretation of what you thought the goal is or should be – such that “the Afghanistan Issue” can be articulated many many different ways and graded as many different ways as well.



    • Buck The Wala says:

      Hey Ray, how’s it going today?

      I’m glad you posted those numbers from politifact. It is difficult to grade any president due to our own subjective views. The best way to grade a politician is based on how they are performing given their campaign promises and platforms. It is irrelevant to say a president is a failure because you disagree with their positions or where they are taking the country. All that matters is whether or not the president is meeting his promises.

      On this score I feel Obama does deserve a B or B+. Of course, politically speaking, he shouldn’t have taken the bait in answering this question.

      • Ray Hawkins says:

        Hey Buck – all is well – I am sleep deprived as my 6 month old has yet another ear infection and spent half the night last night awake and screaming.

        • Buck The Wala says:

          I can’t even imagine the toll that must take. Hopefully all’s well by tonight!

        • Judy Sabatini says:

          Hi Ray

          Hope your little guy feels better soon, and I hope you can catch up on your sleep.

          Have a good one.

        • Kristian Stout says:

          Ray, a little bit of warm sweet oil should help. Just warm it in a spoon with a lighter, put a couple of drops in the baby’s ear and then a little bit of cotton to keep it in. This will help the ear feel better and help you get some sleep. It worked wonders when my girls got ear infections when they were little like that.

        • Hey Ray, my boy…it gets better than that. Remember your 6 month old will grow up to be a teenager.

  11. Papa has a well written article.


  12. I give Obama an A+ … he is the epitome of a politician.

  13. Judy Sabatini says:

    Here is what people think of Obama and his job performances. I noticed he gave himself a B+. Thinks highly of himself, doesn’t he?

    President Obama: The 1-Year Report Card


    President Obama told Oprah Winfrey that he deserves “a good, solid B-plus” for his work as the nation’s chief executive during his first year in office. How would you grade his performance?

    Thank you, we have already counted your vote.
    A 2% (602 votes)
    B 2% (719 votes)
    C 8% (3,072 votes)
    D 72% (28,033 votes)
    Incomplete 16% (6,376 votes)
    Total Votes: 38,802
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    Thank you, we have already counted your vote.
    A 2% (590 votes)
    B 2% (632 votes)
    C 10% (3,331 votes)
    D 78% (25,123 votes)
    Incomplete 8% (2,577 votes)
    Total Votes: 32,253
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    Thank you, we have already counted your vote.
    A 2% (757 votes)
    B 2% (732 votes)
    C 10% (3,287 votes)
    D 77% (24,405 votes)
    Incomplete 8% (2,631 votes)
    Total Votes: 31,812
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    Thank you, we have already counted your vote.
    A 2% (676 votes)
    B 6% (1,914 votes)
    C 24% (7,583 votes)
    D 60% (18,875 votes)
    Incomplete 8% (2,489 votes)
    Total Votes: 31,537
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    Thank you, we have already counted your vote.
    A 2% (771 votes)
    B 3% (800 votes)
    C 8% (2,534 votes)
    D 79% (24,670 votes)
    Incomplete 8% (2,616 votes)
    Total Votes: 31,391
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  14. Judy Sabatini says:

    A US Congressman was seated next to a little girl on the airplane when he

    turned to her and said, ‘Let’s talk. I’ve heard that flights go quicker if

    you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.’

    The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to

    the stranger, ‘What would you like to talk about?”

    “Oh, I don’t know,’ said the congressman. ‘How about universal/gov’t health

    care?’ and he smiles.

    “OK,’ she said. ‘That could be an interesting and timely topic. But let me

    ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff

    – grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat

    patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that


    The Congressman, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks

    about it and says, ‘Hmmm, I have no idea.’

    To which the little girl replies, ‘Do you really feel qualified to discuss

    health care when you don’t know shit?’

  15. They are coming for the rest of your land.

    I posted the other day that the govt has the power to destroy, or control, our economy through Clean Air and Clean Water and Endangered Species ACTs

    I also warned against the proposed Clean Water revisions, but didn’t remember what had happended to the proposed changes. Well, seems they have floated to the surface once again.


    For those of you from the wetter climates, a “playa” is a dry lake bed covered with alkali (white lime like substance). Playas occur in old lake beds that only occassionaly have water and where the water is usually trapped, like in the Great Basin.

    And for the record, my opinion of the dear lady commenting on behalf of the National Wildlife Federation…………LIAR.

    Just sayin..

  16. A friend of mine (the very right wing DOC) pointed out how few actual business people Obama surrounded himself with (8% from the private sector) and my friend and I both had experiences with book smarts in the business world vs. empirical know how … the academics failed miserably.

    I give any President involved in corporate welfare an F. He hasn’t done much of anything (for either the right or the left—contrary to all you crazies on the right think in here :).

    The bowing stuff is nonsense. His inability to get anything done is real. Even with a veto proof senate, he can’t get a thing done. He clearly wasn’t ready for this job or the big league politics required to play it.

    I don’t blame him for how bad the country is split. That divide was all GW’s and Obama is now catching flack for not bridging the gap he’d promised. Republicans are clearly not cooperating for political gain but that’s the game Obama signed up for.

    Except for some of the stuff he’s doing with school (supporting charter schools, for example, I pointed out today at my place), but overall, even for lefties, he’s been a big disappointment. I suppose I’m left of left (in here anyway), so I expected most of this—not quite all of it, though. His lack of ability to get anything done does reflect on his 131 “present” votes in the Illinois legislature. He gets an F so far … yeah, I’ll go along with that.

    • Where is Charlie and what have you done with him?

    • Supporting Charter schools????? When one of his first hypocritical, moves was to terminate the DC school voucher program which had hundreds or thousands of backlogged candidates ! It was so outlandish to me, because of all of his non-promises promises I expected that he wouldn’t stab em in the back like that.

      The divide under GW was primarily the dems so that they could have talking points and a better chance at election time. Pelosi etal have been in control since 2006 – right? So when I hear – give him (dems) time – thats BS.

  17. I guess it all depends on how you are grading him.
    On BF’s scale of being a good politician in the tradition of the last 50 years or so: A+
    In terms of being a progressive and/or socialist: A+
    In terms of popularity, he started well, but considering his rapid decline I would say he gets a C
    In terms of his own agenda, while much is not yet done, I would say he gets an A for the incredible amount of his crap that HAS gotten done.
    In terms of keeping his campaign promises, I would give him a D-, since some of the most important ones, like transparency and removal of pork count heavily against the promises that have been kept.
    In terms of economics both for the US economy and for government efficiency and spending, he gets a dismal F, possibly even a 0.
    In terms of international performance, its an F
    In terms of his social agenda, the individual freedom front, he has a couple of good points, but an overall F.
    So, my report card would definately be an F, but if I were a socialist or a mainstream media type, I would not likely argue with his B+ overall, though I would still find it hard to score him well on the two arenas he scored himself.

    BTW, how is everyone? I haven’t been able to be on here lately…

  18. PeterB in Indianapolis says:

    This is for D13, dredging up a conversation we were having about a week ago:

    The reason that philosophy and Natural Law are so important (and that what you CURRENTLY CALL “reality” is really NOT important) is that there has been a systematic and highly successful attempt to disconnect the average person from actual reality over the past 50 years, and this mess that we have now has been put in place of it. As Adam Savage of Mythbusters says, “I reject your reality and substitute my own!”

    Well, many of us, our reality has been rejected, and what we have now has been substituted for it. Many people have only grown up under this “substituted reality”, and so for them it is perilously “real”.

    Trying to deal with reality “as it is now” and “make it better” would be disasterous, because what many people incorrectly define as “reality” right now is disingenuous at best. It is as if you are looking into a mirror, but the surface of the mirror has been altered so that your image appears different than your actual appearance. Trying to force your actual appearance to fit what the mirror shows would be stupid and wrong. Fixing the mirror is the only way to have it show reality “correctly”. Philosophy is the “mirror”. If we operate with a flawed mirror and try to change things so that the flawed mirror shows true “reality”, then we have to warp reality to suit the mirror. If we fix the mirror, then reality will again be real, and things will actually fit together properly and make sense.

    • I will ask you the same question I asked BF…. Ok…so what do you do to fix it short of armed revolution.,

      • PeterB in Indianapolis says:


        I think armed anything should be a last resort; however, I do not deny that sometimes it seems inevitable.

        I realize that there are a lot of people that want to “ACT AND ACT NOW!” and a lot of people not only want to do this, but feel that it is absolutely necessary to act now, or we will pass some sort of magical “point of no return” after which we will be unable to act.

        I somewhat disagree with this. We ARE acting. We are informing, we are educating, we are debating, and we are trying to come up with a workable foundation from which to proceed. Without a strong foundation, a house will fall.

        There is absolutely no way to bring everyone around to exactly the same point of view on these matters, because some people will refuse to see reality, or will persist in defining it in ways that are contradictory to individual freedom and liberty. The only way to “convert” any of those people would be to put them in a system in which ethics, freedom, and liberty were paramount and then they would be able to demonstrate to themselves that it was an improvement over their previous lives.

        I agree with BF that we must start on a very local level. Gain enough control of your local area that when a State tells you that you “must” do something, and you know that the “something” is wrong, you have the power and ability to say “no”. Once enough localities have the power to say “no”, then entire States will have the power to say “no” when the central government tells them that they “must” do something.

        Armed revolt might still happen anyway before people can make any progress on this plan, but armed revolt would certainly not be the preferred method of advancing a society which we wished to be based on ethics, freedom, and liberty. If an armed revolt does happen, it is going to call for an alternate plan from those of us who wish for freedom and liberty to be paramount in the resulting society, and that plan is something which we will have to consider as well.

        • Exactly, Peter.

          In Russia, one man in a tank decided to say “no”.

          That caused all the tanks to stop.

          That caused the whole army to stop.

          That caused the whole military takeover to stop.

          Russia was saved.

  19. PeterB in Indianapolis says:

    By the way, I believe that Obama is being honest when he gives himself a “solid B+”. However, Obama’s mirror is flawed (see above post).

  20. Judy Sabatini says:

    Obama’s Nobel Prize – is it unconstitutional?
    Jim Brown – OneNewsNow – 12/14/2009 7:35:00

    Barack Obama Nobel Peace Prize (Dec. 2009)A constitutional scholar says President Obama’s acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize may be a violation of the U.S. Constitution because he received the award without the consent of Congress.

    Last Thursday, Barack Obama accepted the Nobel Peace Prize Oslo, Norway. He is the third sitting president, after Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt, to win the award. While controversy swirled around the award being granted to a wartime president, Matthew Spalding with The Heritage Foundation is concerned about the constitutionality of Obama’s acceptance of the Nobel Prize.

    A clause in Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution states: “No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office or Trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign state.” That raises a question: Is the Nobel Peace Prize an “Emolument” — a gift arising from one’s office which includes some sort of monetary award with it?

    Matthew Spalding (Heritage)Spalding, director of the B. Kenneth Simon Center for American Studies at The Heritage Foundation, says since the award is technically the property of the United States, Obama has under 60 days to turn the award over to the appropriate authorities for proper disposal.

    “The Commission, the group that gives out the Nobel Prize, is actually appointed by the Parliament of Norway, which is [to] say that it’s connected with a foreign state. This makes it very interesting,” the Heritage scholar notes. “In 1993, President Clinton’s own Office of Legal Counsel said that it didn’t have to be a foreign state acting in a formal way, but could be, rather, indirect. [This] seems to be a perfect example of what the Nobel Prize is — and the Founders put this clause in the Constitution precisely to make sure that foreign states didn’t unwarrantedly influence American domestic politics.”

    Spalding believes the Nobel Prize Commission intended to give the award to a president who had not yet accomplished anything, in hopes of encouraging him to do certain things in the future. Interestingly Nobel committee chairman Thorbjorn Jagland has defended the choice of Obama, saying the prize should be an “instrument for peace rather than [a] stamp of approval.”

    News reports indicate the president intends that the $1.4 million accompanying the Nobel will go to charities that are as yet unidentified.

  21. Bottom Line says:

    Ya’ll know how the colenel jokes around by calling himself “lame brained” when he is obviously brilliant?

    He points to the opposite of obvious reality as a subtle form of sarcasm.

    BHO MUST have been doing the same when he gave himself a B+.

    I didn’t see the interveiw. Was he smiling/laughing/smirking when he said it?

  22. Judy Sabatini says:
  23. “Ordinary men and women will be expected to be docile, industrious, punctual, thoughtless, and contented”

    Be, then, extraordinary!

    For believe me! — the secret for harvesting from existence the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment is: to live dangerously!

    -Friedrich Nietzsche

  24. Judy Sabatini says:
  25. Posting for comments, not much to say on this one really.

  26. Good Day Everyone!

    I have been trying for a long time to understand why the people who vote Liberal Democrat do it. Let’s see if I can get some of this right. Most heavily populated areas are controlled by the Dems. These areas also have the largest percentage of poor, poor minorities and unemployment. Each election, the Dems promise jobs, change, hope and a better life for these people.

    So for 40 or more years, it’s the same promises, election after election, only to be able to promise the same next election, and these people still vote for the SOS (Same Old Shit). This equates to these people as being SOS (Stuck On Stupid). It’s the SOS syndrom.

    Then there are the more intelligent Dems, Far Left folks, who, despite knowing that government cannot manage a budget or be fiscally responsible, wants to give them control of healthcare, energy, and God knows what else. Despite all the facts and evidence that supports the destructive nature of government involvement in anything, the Lefty’s continue on, why, I do not know. I can only equate this to the self destructive nature of man or SOS (Set On Suicide).

    Let’s try and defeat SOS syndrom. Any suggestions?


    • The only way to stop being stuck on stupid is to take away education and emotional appealing media from the liberal/big government types. The only way to do that would be to either infiltrate it over decades like they did, or have a coup.

  27. Judy Sabatini says:

    Time to put this greedy business out of business, don’t ya think.

    Postal Service Employees Owed $300M in Taxes, IRS Data Shows

    The U.S. Postal Service has more tax delinquents in its ranks than any other federal agency or department, according to Internal Revenue Service data.

    Maybe their tax payments got lost in the mail.

    The U.S. Postal Service turns out to have more tax delinquents in its ranks than any other federal agency or department, according to the Internal Revenue Service.

    IRS statistics from 2008 detailing the amount of money federal workers failed to pay the government in taxes showed postal service employees owed $297.93 million — nearly 10 percent of the $3.04 billion owed by federal employees and retirees from dozens of agencies.

    The tax gap among federal workers comes at a time when the federal government is running record deficits and trying to raise the $12 trillion debt limit so that it can continue spending at record levels next year.

    USPS spokesman Mark Saunders said in a written statement that it’s “important” to consider that the percentage of those owing taxes at the postal service is “relatively small” compared with other agencies. The postal service is the largest federal employer outside the military, so it would predictably have a relatively large number of delinquents — the actual percentage of those failing to pay taxes, 3.95 percent, was less than at a number of other agencies.

    But with $297 million in unpaid taxes, Saunders said the postal service is still trying to lick the problem. In Post Office terms, that kind of money could buy 677,122,172 stamps.

    “We urge our employees to comply with all tax laws and are encouraged that many who have been delinquent have agreed to payment plan with the IRS,” Saunders said. Of the Postal Service’s more than 732,000 employees, about 29,000 owed taxes.

    The data from late 2008 covered all agencies with more than 25 employees and mostly covered the 2007 tax year — the most recently available data. It was not clear how much of the money has been repaid. The data showed just about every federal sector had tax evaders, but the problem was far worse in certain corners of the government.

    The military, between active duty personnel and reserves, accounted for $301 million of the total owed to the government.

    Military retirees accounted for another $1.34 billion. The only department that came anywhere close to the Postal Service’s IRS bill was the Department of Veterans Affairs, which owed $131.29 million.

    That bill was $2.47 million for the U.S. Senate; $5.81 million for the House of Representatives; and about $813,000 for the Executive Office of the President.

    The Treasury Department owed $6.99 million. But the treasury actually boasted the best rate of all the departments, with only .98 percent of its employees labeled as tax delinquents. Inside the treasury, the IRS had a rate of .76 percent. Perhaps accounting for the low rate at the IRS is the fact that IRS employees can be fired for failing to pay taxes.

    The agency with the highest percentage was the National Capital Planning Commission, which had a rate of 10.42 percent.

    • Hi Judy!

      That bill was $2.47 million for the U.S. Senate; $5.81 million for the House of Representatives; and about $813,000 for the Executive Office of the President.

      This is where I would have to call out the politicians. Their names need to be made public, and, as we would, be held accountable. Tax, despite it being theft, should disallow holding public office for not paying.


      • Judy Sabatini says:

        Hi G

        Would be nice to see who didn’t pay. I still say, time to abolish the IRS. They don’t need to get their grubby little thieving hands on everything, they have enough hands in the cookie jar now.

        So, I hear you and your dad had some luck with the deer. Yea, he told me that you just missed one the other day, sorry about that.

        Outside of that, how ya doing for the most part? How’s the weather in your area? Now we have fog today, doesn’t seem to want to lift much. If it’s not one thing, it’s another.

        • All is well, hunting was good, despite the low kill. Of seven deer taken off our mountain, we got three. I really didn’t miss, but tried a long, through the woods head shot, which the odds were against, hoping to get them to stop or change to a favorable direction. Rarely works, but sometimes it works OK. Small deer anyway, so I’m not upset at all, still have some bowhunting to do.

          The weather is goofy, as always. Ice yesterday kept me up dad’s till after 1:30, tried to leave at 11 am, but that wasn’t happening.


          • Judy Sabatini says:

            I thought bow hunting was over with. See, you tried something different and it didn’t work now did it.

            Your dad told me you just as far as his drive way, and had to turn around. Glad you made it home safely.

            We got snow on our drive way, that just won’t melt, it froze up. Saturday night we had some rain, then it turned into that snowy-rain bit, now we can’t even shovel it off. Christopher got some of that snow melt, didn’t help still frozen. He’s out there now trying to scrape as much of it as he can.

            I’m getting tired of trying to get the paper every morning and slipping as I go. Damn paper delivery person, too freaking lazy to throw up against the garage door. I think he does it on purpose, because any other time when the weather is nice, it’s up against the door. Guess who’s not getting a Christmas tip this year?

          • G
            You have done better than me. I have been hunting 3 times since the season started. Have seen 10 but only got a shot at 1 with no luck. Need meat! I still have 4 more weeks till the end of the season, so I am optimistic. I will be off a week and a half during Christmas so a hunting I will go. That darn job just gets in the way.

            • Be patient Bama, Remember that as winter gets into gear, they change patterns. I’m not too worried about shooting anymore, but love trying!!! 🙂

              I’ve been selective this year, passed up all does and the only ones I seen were yearlings when I was ready to take one. That’s ok though, that’s why they call it hunting and not killing, LOL.

              Good Luck, I’ll be out over the holidays, weather permitting as well.


  28. Judy Sabatini says:
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  30. Judy Sabatini says:

    We Must Resolve to Speak Up and Reclaim Our Country, Now!

    By Jon Kraushar

    We cannot wait until the 2010 elections to redirect our elected representatives from the wrong track to the right track.

    With President Obama’s job approval rating bouncing between about 50 percent and 47 percent— among the lowest numbers Gallup has recorded for a president at this point in his term — it’s time to put political activism on your list of holiday resolutions because the American economy and America’s future are depending on you.

    Various polls show that most citizens are concerned that President Obama and his allies in Congress are trying to do too much, too fast, to flip control of our economy and our personal choices from the private sector to the public sector.

    The stimulus and troubled asset relief programs, health care, cap-and-trade, climate change and the president’s mixed message about a troop surge in Afghanistan, coupled with an ambiguous withdrawal deadline from the country, are all creating uncertainty about the future impact on our economic and national security. Americans are anxious about unemployment, our huge debt and deficit, mind-boggling government spending, potentially crushing new taxation and regulations, and whether the war in Afghanistan might turn into a quagmire.

    With Congress’s job approval rating at a dismal 26 percent, according to Gallup, leadership must come from the bottom up — from We the People — to redirect elected officials from the wrong track to the right track.

    Consider whether it is in the best interests of America’s future to accept or reject the following transformations inherent in what Obama describes as “change we can believe in:”

    -From a nation of investors to a nation of debtors.
    -From a free market economy to a government-run economy.
    -From a value system that prizes personal independence to a political system that fosters personal dependency.
    -From a society where wealth accumulation, job creation and innovation are aspirations, to a society where wealth redistribution, high unemployment and stagnation are expectations.
    -From a country confident that it is worthy of emulation to a country apologetic about its actions, beliefs and systems.
    -From a military power that punches hard in the fight for freedom to a military that is sometimes commanded to pull its punches in the war against terrorism.
    -From a quest to achieve the correct political course at the right cost to a quest to achieve the politically correct course at any cost.
    -From a competitive environment where failure is part of a course correction to a government-controlled environment where the course of failure produces bailouts, handouts, payouts and layabouts
    -From a public debate that is challenging because of strongly-held views to a public debate that is stifled because only one party’s views are challenged.
    -From a country that celebrates strength and competes to a country that cultivates enervation and retreats.

    W. Somerset Maugham wrote, “It is a funny thing about life; if you refuse to accept anything but the best you very often get it.”

    Some people believe that in practical terms we have to wait until the 2010 elections to really make a difference.

    That would be a mistake. Any government programs enacted before next year’s elections will be hard (if not impossible) to reverse.

    In this season of resolutions, let us resolve to speak out and organize now so that the president and Congress clearly know exactly what we will accept or reject. This includes reaching out to any wavering Democrats — and a few Republicans — whose votes could tip the outcome of legislation in the wrong direction.

    America’s future—our prosperity, our security and our national character—is depending on you.

  31. Judy Sabatini says:

    Well, poooooh!, Where is everybody at? Nobody to chat with. Okay, will check in in a bit then.

  32. Judy Sabatini says:

    Johnny Mathis,, Wonderful, Wonderful

  33. Judy Sabatini says:

  34. Judy Sabatini says:

    Well Gee Whiz, nobody here to chat with.

    So, on that note, I will say goodnight to all you wonderful people here.

    Hope you are all having a great night and hope to see you here tomorrow.

    You are all my special, special friends who I love so very much.

    All Take Care


  35. Beginning of the End of the Great Religion of Man-made Climate and the end of the Media that made it Famous.

    Climategate exposed some widely respected academic defenders of global warming as intellectual impostors and data-fakers.

    Their peers, who have relied on their faked data, are now trapped.

    They don’t know what to do.

    If they admit that the data really were faked and that opposing views have been shut out of peer-reviewed journals, they also admit that their case is weak and that they were dupes – unable with all their “scientific training” to know the difference between charlatan snake oil salesmen and real science.

    On the other hand, if they defend these people, they look like these very snake oil salesmen.

    What’s a global warmer to do?

    And what about the media that gave these charlatans the headlines?

    The print journalism is dying.

    With their cries of “deniers”, they promoted a childish view of science, politics, and the world.

    And in fact, bad as “Climategate” is for the cause of mitigating climate change, it’s a far bigger disaster for the media lap dogs.

    Do the words “out of touch with reality” ring a bell?

    The Web is killing newspapers that are not subscription-based and on-line, meaning the Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times, and nobody else.

    We bloggers are, of course, overjoyed.

    Digital technology is sinking these political mouth-piece dinosaurs.

    Climategate is the first time in a decade that the global warming crowd has gone on the defensive.

    At long last, we deniers got what we dreamed of: a scandal that reveals the hidden agenda of the warmers, which is power.

    It reveals their chief tactic: the suppression of rival opinions in the name of peer review.

    This is a major blow to the myth of peer review. That myth has prevailed in academia for at least 60 years.

    I have waited for something this juicy for decades.

    Now it is here.

    Savor it, my friends.

    The warmers are twisting in the wind.

    They are screaming, “Unfair!” “Out of context!” “Cherry-picking!” It will do them no good. Their academic spokesmen got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

    They are the equivalent of Tiger Woods, but without a trace of repentance.

    That is the incredible thing. They are in the media, yet they do not perceive what has happened to them.

    One fool …err, academic who has been caught on camera with his fly down is Dr. Stephen “Ice Age” Schneider, a Stanford professor who advises Al Gore. He was an ice-ager back in 1975.

    I was a denier then.

    No one gives us deniers any credit, then or now.

    You will enjoy this video of Prof. Schneider, which records his refusal to allow his interview to be broadcast after it was shot.

    He had previously granted permission, but then threatened legal action. The video of this is here:

    He got caught on camera at a recent lecture.

    His outrage at the questioner is palpable.

    The questioner raised an academic question: What did he think of Professor Jones, one of the suppressors?

    Schneider sounded like a fool.

    He refused to answer. He said he had no idea what the emails said. They were “redacted.” Right. Redacted. That means “tampered with” in the language of the academy. He is unable to communicate in English. This is not good in a YouTube video.

    The reporter was not fooled. He reminded Schneider that the university in question has admitted the emails were accurate, i.e., not redacted.

    Schneider was still unwilling to give a straight answer. Bad form for a video that will live forever on the internet.

    Having spent his career lecturing to classrooms full of docile students whom he could flunk, he was not used to a straightforward question that forced him to choose between admitting that his peers had played dirty pool vs. openly defending them.

    Faced with this dilemma, he could only sputter.

    Next, this public relations disaster was followed by an armed guard demanding that the camera be shut off. Schneider is nowhere to be seen. Didn’t he know that that the reporter had a crew and a camcorder? He forgot about the Internet and YouTube.

    He was not front and center, volunteering to answer any and all questions. Why not? Because he is still thinking “print media.”

    He is a dinosaur caught in the tar pit.

    Now, because of the ‘Net he will be remembered, if at all, for this.

    (see video in the following reply = to avoid moderator)

    The ‘warmer’ dolts have shot holes in their own bucket.

    Ha, ha, ha. And, I might add, ho, ho, ho.

    I can see it now. “Flash! Arctic glaciers are melting as never before!” (A report published in 1922)

    • “Ice Age” Schneider rolling in tar.

    • December 14, 2009

      DOE Litigation Hold Notice

      DOE-SR has received a “Litigation Hold Notice” from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) General Council and the DOE Office of Inspector General regarding the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in England.

      Accordingly, they are requesting that SRNS, SRR and other Site contractors locate and preserve all documents, records, data, correspondence, notes, and other materials, whether official or unofficial, original or duplicative, drafts or final versions, partial or complete that may relate to the global warming, including, but not limited to, the contract files, any related correspondence files, and any records, including emails or other correspondence, notes, documents, or other material related to this contract, regardless of its location or medium on which it is stored.

      In other words, please preserve any and all documents relevant to “global warming, the Climate Research Unit at he University of East Anglia In England, and/or climate change science.”

      Ho, ho, ho!

    • And what about the millions of Americans who are not on the internet and who only watch the MSM? Do they have a clue about climategate? I think not. That is the real scary part of the past year, and why there should only be republican presidents! With a republican president, only then the media will fulfill their responsibility and keep close tabs on the office.

      • Those that are not on the ‘Net do not matter.

        They are the ones stuck going down to the Telegraph station to send -at most- short messages while we are calling on the phone and faxing.

        Their ability to influence the direction of society is fading, and very fast.

        It was the ‘Net that brought down Van Jones, not the print media.

        It was the ‘Net that got Clinton and “that woman”.

        It was the ‘Net that the police fear the most, due to YouTube proving their lies and their brutality.

        Power is with those that communicate the fastest and the broadest. The gatekeepers misunderstood the ‘Net to be just a toy.

        Now, they are scrambling – unsuccessfully – to stuff the genie back in the bottle.

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