My Take on What Scott Brown’s Win REALLY Means

As everyone is aware, Massachusetts held their special election on Tuesday and shocked the system by electing a Republican to fill the seat vacated by the late Ted Kennedy. From the moment he was declared the winner in the race against Martha Coakley, all of the news outlets, political pundits, politicians, and spin masters, including the White House, have worked to tell America what this monumental upset means. Is it the beginning of the end for the Democratic party? Is it nothing more than a rebuke of a candidate that thought she was entitled to the seat and, therefore, didn’t bother to work hard at winning an election? Is it a statement made by Massachusetts voters that America is not happy with the direction of the Obama administration and the progressive movement that is afoot in Washington DC? Is it a statement that Americans do not want the health care legislation in its present form? Is it a statement that the back room deals, sweetheart bribes, and partisan games in Washington have finally proven too much for the average American to tolerate?

The answer to any one of those questions may be yes or no depending on the individual voter or the party pundit that you ask. I do believe that the answer is yes to all of those questions. The one excuse that I hear from several leading Democratic leaders that I say is absolutely wrong is the laughable claim that the Massachusetts voters elected a Republican because they are frustrated that Obama and Congress haven’t moved fast enough in implementing the progressive liberal agenda. However, I do not believe that any of the above reasons are the actual root of what happened in Massachusetts. Because Massachusetts is not the first time that we have seen this phenomenon occur. We have seen it time and time again over the last couple of years. On BOTH sides of the aisle. And I think recognizing the pattern is the key to realizing what is really happening in America.

The fact is that Americans are fed up with the typical professional politician. I know it sounds odd. Scott Brown was, after all, a Massachusetts State Senator for several years. But the difference was that Scott Brown did not present himself in the same way that so many politicians do these days. He appeared to be a normal guy. He appeared to be one of us instead of one of them. Coakley was a long time member of the Massachusetts Democratic machine. The key point was member of the machine, not whether that machine had a “D” or an “R” next to it. He drove a truck with over 200k miles on it. He spoke in plain language. He let the elite know that it wasn’t “Ted Kennedy’s seat”, but was the seat of the people of Massachusetts. He told jokes that were funny. He related to people on an individual level. In short, he just didn’t seem to be like the rest of the assholes in Washington DC.

Think back to the candidates over the last year and a half that suddenly came to the national stage and were embraced by the people. Sarah Palin (and I know Ray’s head is exploding just reading her name) came from obscure mayor of Wasila to Governor of the most remote state in America to Vice Presidential candidate and potential future Presidential candidate. She did so not because she was openly religious or because she was a pretty woman. She did so because people looked at her and listened to her and saw a little bit of themselves in her. She wasn’t like what we were used to in Washington. She was charismatic, sure, but she was down to earth. A “hockey mom” who hunts and has a knocked up teenage daughter and who doesn’t necessarily have all the right answers for the asshole media types who attempted to paint her as “stupid”. She was more like us than she was like them. And that resonated with voters.

Barack Obama is another example. We are aware he comes from within the most corrupt political city in the United States, the “Chicago Machine”. But he didn’t seem like he was one of the regular Washington crowd. And to keep that image alive, his entire message was tailored to get folks to believe that he wasn’t one of them. He told us that the days of Washington DC politics as usual were over. He told us that he was going to bring change to Washington DC. And that was what people wanted. People were upset with Bush and his administration. But they were even more disenchanted with the entire national political scene. So they were all too eager to embrace the idea that the change Barack Obama was talking about was a change to that national political scene. He talked about bipartisanship and transparency, two things that have been absent in DC for a long time. That sure sounded different, too. In the end, I think it was all a lie. But it was what people wanted to believe was going to happen. After a year, his poll numbers are dropping dramatically. And that is because people are realizing that the change he promised wasn’t a change in Washington as they had hoped at all.

I believe that this is the thing that should be learned from the Massachusetts race. Washington DC must understand that their days are numbered. Not the Democrats or the Republicans. All of Washington DC. Because the lesson to be learned in Massachusetts is that Americans no longer believe in the career politicians and partisan bullshit that has defined Washington DC for so long. Americans know, deep in their heart that the federal government is broken. And it is broken in ways that can be laid at the feet of the two big parties in power. We are tired of it. We have had enough of the political wrangling. We can see through the rhetoric. We can see through the lies. And we want something better. At the very least we know that something different cannot be worse than what we have.

America is changing. The last ten years have left us broken and tired. We no longer trust Washington. And we certainly no longer trust politicians. So anyone that doesn’t seem to be a politician has a shot with us. As a result we have seen the rise of the Palins, Obamas, and Browns of the country. Even when we “like” the career politicians we see in Washington, we don’t trust them. They don’t inspire us. They don’t lead us. They don’t even attempt to hide the good ol’ boy network any longer. They have secret meetings that we all know are happening. They make deals that are outright illegal and immoral. They have a pork barrel system that buys votes no matter the subject or party. They claim to want to protect us from the same big business jerks who they are taking all their campaign contributions from.

In short, Washington DC has become everything that we despise in America. It has become exactly what we would never tolerate if done by big business. In fact, the same people who scream about the evil of big business seem to ignore the exact same behavior from our elected officials.

That is what the tea party movement was. A first shot across Washington’s bow to let them know that we no longer approve of their behavior. A warning shot that we are fed up with the political games and tactics. The tea party movement may die if it gets accepted by a major party. But the sentiment is not going to die. And here’s why:

People just like me. Things such as internet blogging have replaced traditional avenues for media. They have replaced traditional communication methods. They have connected the people of America in a new way. We are no longer bound by geographical boundaries. There are people reading and discussing on this site from every state in America and from several different countries on top of that. And this is but one blog among millions.

Washington can no longer control the message. Washington can no longer hide their dirty secrets. If a Senator passes gas in a packed elevator, we will know it. So the methods and tactics in Washington are now being broadcast to the entire world. You can live in a town of 200 in Idaho and know what is going on. And the more that the “regular” Americans learn of what is happening in Washington DC, the less they like. So they are beginning to mobilize, talk to one another, and demand better. It isn’t all organized yet, and it may never get there. But the sentiment is alive and well in America. Because we don’t need to be organized to know that what is happening in Washington DC is wrong. We know it inherently, because the average American isn’t like those buttheads in DC.

Change is coming to America. But it isn’t the change that Barack Obama promised. I remember Obama making the statement that, “We need to be the change that we want to see in others.” He was absolutely right. Only when you take a look at America, the majority are being the change they want to see in Washington. And they are not seeing a Washington crowd that has any interest in being that change along with them. So they will remove them and elect those who do seem to be more of that change.

Now the question is how do we get our message out there to persuade people that the change we need to see is a change to demanding liberty and freedom? How do we get America to demand that we hold to values and principles even when it is the harder path to take?


  1. From the desk of Mrs Weapon,

    WELL DONE HUSBAND! I think this is the most important point to take from Mr. Brown going to Washington. People are not tied to their affiliated parties anymore. We will elect anyone who seems they are different than the machine. I hope this frustration holds up until November when real change can occur.

    All of you on this website are part of this change. You should be very proud that your voices are now loud enough to be heard and I wanted to give a “shout out” to all the readers of SUFA! You are the reason this is happening so keep talking….the change is coming!

    • Posting for comments. Change is coming, what knid of change is the question. Browns victory was interesting, a major change for Mass.

      Hope everyone has a Great day!


  2. A Puritan Descendant says:

    Yes, Scott Brown is a much better choice than Martha Coakley. Especially since his election sends such a strong message.

    However, I made a promise to myself to no longer vote for the lesser of two evils. I am holding out for a conservative supporter of our original constitution. If they want my vote they must sing my tune. Riding the fence won’t work with me. The only exception might be to actually vote with the ‘enemy’ to unseat the likes of Olympia Snowe which might one day lead to a candidate I could support.

    It is my understanding that Scott Brown voted for the health care program in Massachusetts. This includes the Insurance Mandate. I believe this is not constitutional and I could never vote for him. He ‘seems’ like a ‘great guy’, but that is no longer enough.

    Scott Brown will slow things down which is Great! In the end we are still doomed if we don’t force candidates to run on a traditional meaning of “Freedom and Liberty”!

    • I don’t know if his voting for the health care program in Massachusetts, which might be perfectly constitutional under the STATE constitution, necessarlily leads to his voting that way at the federal level. Conservatives recognize that what might be right for one state might not be correct for the entire country. Since I don’t know much about Senator-Elect Brown, I’ll withold judgement until after he officially takes office.

  3. Another well written article US Weapon. We know that both parties are totally corrupt and the system is broken. Can it be fixed is the $64,000 question? It took the Progressive movement over 100 years to get us to this point. We don’t have 100 years to reverse it. Economic policies need reversed now, immediately, to prevent economic collapse. We cannot afford the social programs that we previously committed to like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, etc. yet we are adding a new one, healthcare, to the mix. I don’t think there is enough time to change Washington before an economic collapse occurs. Politicians would have to make rapid and drastic changes like cutting/revising Social Security and other programs.

    JAC and others have stated that education on liberty and freedom is the key and they are correct. The problem is the time element we are up against. We need to educate as many on freedom and liberty as possible every day so when the system falls we don’t end up with something worse. Your site helps do this and I refer people to this site when I have the opportunity to do so. If we all try to get more people over to this site it will help educate. I’ve pointed this site out to well over 50 people but I don’t know if they ever read it.

    • Birdman,

      I’ve also tried hard to get my family and friends to this site. Ten people strong plus in-laws, all devout R’s. I can say my friends are overwhelmingly D’s (or don’t cares).Needless to say I’ve been taking their jabs for years. I’ll continue pushing all to SUFA.

    • Hi Birdman and Anita,

      I, too, have tried to get others to visit this sight. They are not interested in the least. They’d much rather watch TV. How sad.

  4. Mother-In-Law says:

    As Mrs. Weapon mother and as from an older generation I totally agree with her. I think change will come but will be slow. I think after talking with friends that this gave us a little light in a very dark tunnel. Even my friend who was a big Obama fan has now seen the little light. Thanks son in law for keeping us informed

  5. Some good posts already! I’m thinking this shows a rise in the independents power and influence (also goes for Obama). Do we call Brown a moderate or RINO?
    Yes, I contributed to him campaign (me cupa).

    Puritain has me wondering, was there a viable independent or third party candidate that we were unaware of due to media non-reporting? The liberal media’s agenda is to keep the two parties, allowing the gradual Progressive take-over of our society. I do enjoy this blog, and what I learn here, but if we were looking for information on which candidate is worth of election, there is no good source. In 2010, how do I get to pick my candidate, instead of the MSM laying out either A or B for me? Both are Model “T”‘s, in either red or blue. I want something different, but because of the sheeple effect, I don’t get that option.

    NBC’s David Gregory also came to his senses today, and admitted–his prior statements notwithstanding–that the Tea Party movement has been advocating the same principles that led to Scott Brown’s victory yesterday (h/t Mary Katherine Ham).

    Speaking on this morning’s Morning Joe, Gregory characterized yesterday’s special election as a sincere populist backlash against unpopular policies. The election was “about incumbency and whether government’s working for you,” he said.

    “That’s what really cuts through all this is whether government is working for the people. That’s what’s fueling the Tea Party movement.”

    Well, yes, that is correct. A desire to keep America’s politicians in check by reminding them that they will be voted out if they are not responsive to the people is a central tenet of the Tea Party movement. But this realization seems to have dawned on Gregory a bit late.

    On an August airing of “Meet the Press”, Gregory argued that town hall protests against congressional health care legislation–protests that morphed into the Tea Party movement in the fall–were “synonymous” with violence against the United States government and its leaders. Gregory even likened the protesters to Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

    Read more:

  6. I am curious to see….how many more retiree’s are on the horizon….from BOTH parties.

    Nice article.

    • I think there will be many more. Rather than face the humiliation of losing, bow out before the election.

    • from American Thinker,

      January 21, 2010
      Scott Brown won Barney Frank’s district
      Ethel C. Fenig
      For more proof that Senator elect Scott Brown’s (R) Massachusetts victory was a repudiation of the state’s tax and spend, bail them all out, soft on terrorism policies, Locomotive Breath 1901 blog points out another amazing fact about an amazing victory.

      Scott Brown (R) Even Won Barney Frank’s District

      Barney Frank (D) got the message. Barney Frank pushing hard, harder for Obamacare suddenly stopped. Now will he also stop massive taxpayer subsidies for FannieMae and FreddieMac? What about other tax and spend policies? And what does Frank think about civil rights for alien terrorists?

      Frank is up for re-election; his inquiring constituents want to know.

      • v. Holland says:

        I wasn’t aware of this, thanks, I will be watching the arrogant, nail cleaning, can’t stand to look at his face politician. Think I jumped into rant mode, but I so hope he’s voted out of office.

      • Frank may be quiet for a while but I doubt he can contain himself until Nov. This year is going to be fun.

  7. You raise good points USW. Will take exception that BO looked/sounded different in the same way as Palin and Brown. He looked and sounded different to those that did no research of their own to figure out who this new guy was. They believed everything told to them by the campaign and the MSM. Those people were sold a bill of goods that as you point out, was all a lie.

    The important lesson here is to not trust and believe what the MSM paints or what their campaign tells us. Don’t even pay much attention to their words but rather look at their actions. Old cliche, but so true. I spent a fair amount of time looking into BO before the election as I was not big on McCain. What I found was enough for me to realize he was just what we’ve found to be true now – a fake and a liar.

    The good news is that he got elected and showed his true self quickly, which is why we now are at this point. Maybe this was the HOPE and CHANGE he really meant?

  8. A Puritan Descendant says:
    • Ellen Spalding says:

      I am very torn on this issue. I see it as a way for corps and non profits to swamp the two major parties with large sums of money and try to completely block out the real people that need to be in office.


      • A Puritan Descendant says:

        Yes, there is certainly at least two points of view on this issue. I think they ruled correctly but Stevens does seem to make a good argument. Though I do not see where in the constitution it says free speach is limited to only individuals.

        • Buck The Wala says:

          Stevens made an extremely good argument in my opinion. Corporations are not the same as individuals; they should not be granted the same rights. It seems that even Rehnquist agreed with Stevens on this issue, based on a quote that to treat corporate spending as the same as individual speach is to confuse metaphor with reality.

          Just a horrible decision in my view.

          • You expected different?

            Come on! Mercantilism needs its soldiers. Government needs its cake.

            I’m surprised the vote was that close….

            • Buck The Wala says:

              Not in the least. I expected it to fall exactly on party lines as soon as I heard the Court picked up the case.

          • A Puritan Descendant says:

            And to add further confusion, An Individual can be a corporation.

    • What I don’t understand is how did the unions ‘give’ something like $3-400 million to Obama campaign, if only now are they free to do so?

      Ooops – I see that I’m a day behind.. oh well

  9. Ellen Spalding says:

    Well I have to agree with what Black Flag said a few days ago. That the anger is really not going to hit the high level until 2012. I think people see that all this spending is terrible for this country. But I do that there are Rep ( machine) that will jump on this wagon to get into office. ONce people realize this and see the curtain some off both parties as machines. That the people will really step up and get the new motion going.
    I hope Brown is what he has claimed to be, he has a short time to step up and prove it.

    Chicago’s political machine has been in place for years. Anyone who spent two minutes on research would see that.

  10. Judy Sabatini says:

    Hi All

    Well, all I can say is, that I hope what happened in Mass is an indication of what’s going to happen here with the Senate election this coming November for Harry Reid. I know the people here are so fed up with him, and for what I hear, they can’t can’t wait to vote him out. His numbers are sitting at a low 33% right now, but he still plans on running again, and so does his son Rory for Gov.

    We get these commercials that say all the good he has done for this state, and how he plans on doing more, and that we should call his office and thank him. Yea, I’d like to call and say thanks for nothing.

    I hope that the Dems are scared, and scared big time with the way things have turned around for them this past Tuesday, now maybe they’ll realize that we mean business and we’re not gong to take all their bullying anymore and that people have finally woke up from their coma’s, and want to see things go in a different direction, but for the better, not the way it’s been going. DOWN HILL.

    Hope all is doing great today.


    • Does Harry really need Barry to come and “save” him? First, Harry seems to be doing a good enough job on his own and secondly, Barry doesn’t have such a good record of coming in for the big swoop to victory.

      Obama Will Travel to Nevada for Reid Next Month

      • Judy Sabatini says:

        Hi Kathy

        Yea, I saw that too.

        I guess he thinks he’ll do Reid a favor by stumping for him, but I doubt it. People here are just tired of all the BS that Reid is saying and doing.

        I read in the paper this morning a letter to the editor, how this guy was saying we really need to lay off Harry’s back, and what a good job he is doing here and in Washington, and how proud he is that Reid is our state senator, and is looking forward to him doing even more good. Damn near choked on my morning coffee when I read that.

        He feels that Reid is the best thing to happen to Nevada and we should all be lucky to have him, and we should all be thankful for his wonderful doings here in Nevada and how we should show our support for him, instead of bad-mouthing him. PLEASE!

        The best thing that could happen for Nevada is getting Reid out of office and the mess he has made of it.

    • Judy,

      Be careful what you wish for. You’re correct that the Dems are wounded. That makes them dangerous. Dear Reader and his wrecking crew are SOOOOO close to the ultimate power consolidation. Don’t think for a minute they’ll let it slip away. All the reasonable sounding words that we’re hearing are designed to lull us back to complacency. They are telling us what we want to hear so we’ll back off. We need to watch the Leftists more closely than ever, bacause now they know we’re on to them. I’d say that in about two, maybe three weeks, we’ll notice an uptick in tricks and underhanded legisltation. We’ll probably get a new crisis, too. Be on your guard…….

      • Judy Sabatini says:

        Hi Cyndi

        Oh, I couldn’t agree with you more, and I’m sure most here are definitely on their guard now. I say most, because we still have those die-hard demos here that wouldn’t think of budging.

      • Agree Cyndi. Complacency is out and being vigilant is in. More Executive Orders and who knows what else may be coming.

        They were no doubt expecting some of this in November, but certainly not this early and with this seat. But, this operation has been in the planning for a long, long, time and so now they go on to Plan B, and step up their agenda, rather than back down. It is the Chicago way.

        Note his words in this ABC interview:

        “If there’s one thing that I regret this year is that we were so busy just getting stuff done and dealing with the immediate crises that were in front of us that I think we lost some of that sense of speaking directly to the American people about what their core values are and why we have to make sure those institutions are matching up with those values,” Obama told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos in an exclusive interview at the White House.

        Curious use of words….”speaking to the people about what their core values are” ie, “I should’ve done better telling people what they need, how they should think, and how we will take care of that”.

        • Hi Kathy, and Judy,

          Plan B is what scares me. If I’m right about what these people really are, this could be IT. I hope I’m wrong, really, I do, because if I’m right, that forecast of America breaking apart in 2010 will move from speculation to reality.

          Get those survuval plans finalized, ASAP.

      • In contrast, watch this clip of Clinton after HillaryCare was defeated. I’m certainly no fan of Clinton’s, but he at least got it.

        Personally, while it might get scary, hope BO will stay his course, because then the people will remain aware.

  11. I have been visiting this site for a little over year but have never chimed in. So in response to your challenge for more people like myself to do so, here goes. I could not be happier about the results of this special election. It showed me people are starting to get it. While we are all having to tighten our own belts, the government is doing the opposite. When times were good I feel people had become complaisant and had stopped watching what our government was doing. To use a team Obama quote, “We can’t waste a good crisis”. I hope the voters here in California are starting to pay attention and we get Boxer out this year.

    • Ellen Spalding says:

      Welcome Jackson!

      Well I have to say I hope people get it, and hope people really start doing their homework on the people trying to get into office. Lets really start taking a really good look under the sheeps clothing, from both parties.

    • I’m with you on Madam errr Sen. Boxer. Welcome to the discussion. USW is right on with his analysis. What is so amazing is that the MSM and elites are so slow to catch on or at least admit they know what is happening. I refuse to believe they are that dump but then it could be.

      I am torn between hoping O finally starts working in a bipartisan fashion or staying the course. If he stays on the present course, he and all the like minded should be gone in 3 years. If he takes a bipartisan approach, it will jsut prolong the agony.

      • Hoping he keeps his blinders on. Out in four.

        • Welcome Jackson! I heard Babs was on the hot seat and if MA can do it, CA can do it.

          • I hope your right. California is strange and frankly an unpredictable group of voters. Defeated same sex marriage. Freed chickens from cages.
            Denied school funding. Approved high speed train “study” even though state is going bankrupt. And all on the same day.

            • “California is strange…….”

              Well, let’s see, there’s those Hollywood types, then there’s Boxer, Pelosi, Waters, San Francisco, Berkeley (hi Chris!)….

              I think you might be right.

              • Little known fact, the largest club at UC Berkeley is the young Repubs. I got 1 kid thru UC Berkeley and another through UC Santa Cruz without too much loss of common sense. Turned my hair grey though. Both got good educations in EE/Comp Sci.

                Unfortunately the Repubs in this state have a defeatist attitude. There are only a few true conservatives.

            • Arnie is in DC today to beg for $. Hope he fails. I want the legislature to sink or swim. I predict they will sink. That may be our only hope for change. Carly is running against Boxer; Meg Whitman is running for Govenor; two strong business women. I have not looked close enough at them yet to see if they are better than the other Repubs running. Change at the top will be ineffective without changing the legislature. Arnie proved that. Same goes for DC.

              • Hi T-Ray,

                I hope he fails too, but I’m sure Dear Reader will see to it that CA gets the money. It works toward the grand plan…..

              • Got my fingers crossed for failure. How can anyone learn responsibility or any other lesson without it?

      • I don’t think that the MSM and elites are so slow to catch on, but they don’t want to publicize it for fear that the Tea Party influence would grow which is contrary to their beliefs.

  12. Afternoon all and welcome Jackson! Great article USW! It is still irritating to read the msm and the left wing blogs and find them all saying that this was an “isolated” specific to MA election! I think that slowly but surely “the times they are a changin'”. For the better of this country this time too!


    UN climate chief admits mistake on Himalayan glaciers warning

    “Jairam Ramesh, the Indian Environment Minister, said on Tuesday the scandal vindicated his position that there was no proof that Himalayan glaciers were melting abnormally fast. “The IPCC claim that glaciers will vanish by 2035 was not based on an iota of scientific evidence,” he said.”

    “Professor Hasnain, who is running the project, said that he would soon be presenting a report on the status of Himalayan glaciers, based on research works by Indian and international scientists published in different peer reviewed journals across the world.”

    “He hopes that these studies will help to produce more incontrovertible evidence that the Himalayan glaciers are under threat. In the short term, however, it seems they will do little to convince climate change sceptics, or to repair the image of the IPCC.”

    “produce more incontrovertible evidence” This is decidedly an unscientific biased statement. It shows that these “scientists” are looking for a specific result rather than just reporting what the data says. This is not how science is done.

    Sorry for hijacking today’s topic.

    • v. Holland says:

      I read this, if we’re lucky this is the death throes of global warming enthusiasts. Although I’m sure we will still have problems with the EPA

      • I have real problems with the EPA ruling on CO2. The EPA was established to deal with health issues associated with pollution of air, water and land. CO2 caused(?) AGW is not a health issue. It is an economic issue assuming one believes the purported theory. It is an example of vaguely worded legislation that gets interpreted way beyond its original intent. If they can rule CO2 a pollutant, why can’t they rule hot, high-velocity lead a pollutant too and tax or outlaw it? It’s harmfull to your health and well being.

        • SK Trynosky Sr says:

          See, here’s where EPA can mandate population control and get away with it. It is a stretch I admit but then again, so much of what was a stretch 25-30 years ago has come to pass.

  14. It is hard to find information about Scott Brown without hitting rant blogs. One thing I did find was he is not rich like the rest of those blood suckers in Washington. It will be interesting to see how much money he will be worth in a few years.

    Click to access Brown_Scott_P.pdf

    • Good question Bama. I’m holding my breath on SB. I’m not happy to hear talk of him running for president. I say we watch what he does once he gets to DC before we have any talk of future office. I’m tired of being told what I what to hear, just to find out it was all BS.

  15. Judy Sabatini says:

    Here is what Hugo Chavez claims caused the earth quake in Haiti.

  16. Judy Sabatini says:

    Sure, now there is no rush. Funny, since Tuesday nights voting, my, how the tables have turned.

    Pelosi: House lacks votes to OK Senate health bill
    Jan 21 12:27 PM US/Eastern
    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that she lacks the votes to quickly move the Senate’s sweeping health overhaul bill through the House, a potentially devastating blow to President Barack Obama’s signature issue.

    Pelosi, D-Calif., made the comment to reporters after House Democrats held a closed-door meeting at which participants vented frustration with the Senate’s massive version of the legislation.

    Her concession meant there was little hope for a White House-backed plan to quickly push the Senate-approved health bill through the House, followed by a separate measure making changes sought by House members, such as easing the Senate’s tax on higher-cost health plans. Such an approach would be “problematic,” she said.

    “In its present form without any changes I don’t think it’s possible to pass the Senate bill in the House,” Pelosi said, adding, “I don’t see the votes for it at this time.”

    Pelosi’s remarks signaled that advancing health legislation through Congress will likely be a lengthy process—despite Democrats’ desire for a quick election-year pivot to address jobs and the economy, which polls show are the public’s top concern.

    “We’re not in a big rush,” Pelosi said. “Pause, reflect.”

  17. ALERT! Now here is a crisis that we can’t allow to happen here. Might need to add some brew to your preparedness list, you know, just in case the unions would try this here? What would you do BF?

    Running Dry: Belgium’s Looming Beer Crisis

    • A Puritan Descendant says:

      We are prepared here. 200 gallons of home grown/bottled cider here. 😉

    • No one has the right to impede another person.

      If the unions want to soap box their case, and convince us by their words not to buy beer, that’s one thing.

      Setting up roadblocks and setting fire to crates – not allowed.

      If it was me, I’d warn the authorities to remove the strikers, and failing that, would drive right through them.

      • Nothing Gets Between Me and My Beer! Wasn’t that a commercial? Oh, yeah, just checked (see I always need to do research for your postings…..)

  18. Judy Sabatini says:

    Kathy, I forgot to add this. Not only are people fed up with good ol Harry, but they are not too happen in what he said about being able to smell the tourist when they are in Las Vegas. Just another one of his dumb- a$$ things he says when he opens his mouth.

  19. Judy Sabatini says:

    I want to also welcome you Jackson to the club. I apologize for not doing so earlier.

    Hope you’re doing well today.


  20. Carry-over from a post yesterday on the difference between the Progressives and the Democrats. Glenn Beck has been doing a good job of working through this and I’ve finally set up the DVR to catch his show more regularly as it’s truly a history lesson.

    I came across this today as what is going on within, as Progressives attempt to beat up on the moderate Dems….all presumably part of the same party.

    • …avoiding moderation….

      here’s the Hillbuzz link:

      My question is to Ray, Matt, Buck, on how you see this playing out, where do you align yourself, do you even agree that there is a difference between these groups?

    • Nice find Kathy. I’ve added them to my bookmark. This is the second time I’ve found myself in agreement with them. It seems there’s common ground.

    • Buck The Wala says:

      I’m sorry, but what’s your question?

      Haven’t had nearly enough coffee to follow along today and still having massive computer problems at work.

      If you’re asking if I’m surprised by progressives ‘beating up’ on moderates within the Democratic Party, then no, of course not. There’s always in-fighting in every group. Always disagreements as to the best road to take. Will this result in a split in the Democratic Party? No, I don’t think so at all.

  21. Zz

    • oh, quit snoring.

    • The people cannot change politics nationally.

      You can change politics locally, especially if a crisis hits.

      Whether you will or not remains to be seen. USWep, SUFA and you represent an ideological position that announces a position: “Get the State of our backs.”

      There will come a time when voters will be divided locally between those favoring head-banging by the local sheriff or a well-armed citizenry. At that point, you and your people had better be well-organized. Also well-armed. To depend on the local sheriff to defend your home is risky now, let alone in a crisis.

      • I know, I know, I know.

        I truly get your position and even think of you, (just a little), when I take action. I just don’t believe non-action works on this large scale, and so therefore, I act.

  22. The Children’s Bible in a Nutshell

    In the beginning, which occurred near the start, there was nothing but God, darkness, and some gas. The Bible says, ‘The Lord thy God is one, but I think He must be a lot older than that. Anyway, God said, ‘Give me a light!’ and someone did. Then God made the world. He split the Adam and made Eve. Adam and Eve were naked, but they weren’t embarrassed because mirrors hadn’t been invented yet. Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating one bad apple, so they were driven from the Garden of Eden. Not sure what they were driven in though, because they didn’t have cars. Adam and Eve had a son, Cain, who hated his brother as long as he was Abel.
    Pretty soon, all of the early people died off, except for Methuselah, who lived to be like a million or something. One of the next important people was Noah, who was a good guy, but one of his kids was kind of a Ham. Noah built a large boat and put his family and some animals on it. He asked some other people to join him, but they said they would have to take a rain check.

    After Noah came Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jacob was more famous than his brother, Esau, because Esau sold Jacob his birthmark in exchange for some pot roast. Jacob had a son named Joseph who wore a really loud sports coat.

    Another important Bible guy is Moses, whose real name was Charlton Heston. Moses led the Israel Lights out of Egypt and away from the evil Pharaoh after God sent ten plagues on Pharaoh’s people. These plagues included frogs, mice, lice, bowels, and no cable. & nbsp;

    God fed the Israel Lights every day with manicotti. Then he gave them His Top Ten Commandments. These include: don’t lie, cheat, smoke, dance, or covet your neighbor’s stuff. Oh, yeah, I just thought of one more: Humor thy father and thy mother.
    One of Moses’ best helpers was Joshua who was the first Bible guy to use spies. Joshua fought the battle of Geritol and the fence fell over on the town.

    After Joshua came David. He got to be king by killing a giant with a slingshot. He had a son named Solomon who had about 300 wives and 500 porcupines. My teacher says he was wise, but that doesn’t sound very wise to me.
    After Solomon there were a bunch of major league prophets. One of these was Jonah, who was swallowed by a big whale and then barfed up on the shore. There were also some minor league prophets, but I guess we don’t have to worry about them.

    After the Old Testament came the New Testament. Jesus is the star of The New. He was born in Bethlehem in a barn. (I wish I had been born in a barn too, because my mom is always saying to me, ‘Close the door! Were you born in a barn?’ It would be nice to say, ‘As a matter of fact, I was.’)
    During His life, Jesus had many arguments with sinners like the Pharisees and the Democrats. Jesus also had twelve opossums. The worst one was Judas Asparagus. Judas was so evil that they named a terrible vegetable after him.
    Jesus was a great man. He healed many leopards and even preached to some Germans on the Mount. But the Democrats and all those guys put Jesus on trial before Pontius the Pilot. Pilot didn’t stick up for Jesus. He just washed his hands instead. Anyways, Jesus died for our sins, then came back to life again. He went up to Heaven but will be back at the end of the Aluminum.
    His return is foretold in the book of Revolution.

  23. I like this comment from a pundit about that election:

    We are going to have fun on the Titanic.

    We can’t get off.

    The lifeboats have holes in them.

    The ship has hit the iceberg of deficits and a doubled monetary base.

    Turning back at this point is not possible.

    So, let’s at least enjoy the consternation of the captain and the crew. Captain Pelosi and First Mate Obama look like they just got hit on the head by a frying pan in a Tom and Jerry cartoon.

  24. Buck The Wala says:

    Let’s all try to remember what this election really meant in the grand scheme of things. As Stewart pointed out last night, this election changed 2% of a body that comprises 50% of a branch that comprises 33% of government.

    It was a huge victory for Brown, that is true. But it does not necessarily mean anything. I’m loving how all the pundits are going crazy as to what this may mean; it makes for great entertainment. But it is not based in reality. This was one election by MA voters. Nobody else was entitled to weigh in.

    And not to rehash a discussion about vile statements made by TV pundits, but why not throw this one out there:

    “I want a chastity belt on this man. I want his every move watched in Washington. I don’t trust this guy. This one could end with a dead intern. I’m just saying. It could end with a dead intern.”
    — Glenn Beck on Senator-elect Scott Brown

    • Yep, Glenn threw out some strange remarks on Brown. This part I agree with….”his every move watched in Washington” and that is the message each and every elected official should hear. We are onto their tricks and if you don’t do what you said (smaller govt. smaller govt. smaller govt.), you are outta there.

    • Buck,

      You have to admit, that was an thought no one else was having after the apparent derailing of the Obama, Pelosi, Reed express. Sounds a little better, well no, more reasonable in context.

      I mean, he was, you know, he’s a good candidate as far as he said the right things, he had the, you know, right lines, et cetera, et cetera. And she was a bad candidate. But that’s not what this was about. This was not a personality contest. So with that being said, we’ve got to be really I mean, we you know, the people in Massachusetts, I don’t know okay. Has anybody seen the beautiful 1982 nude pictures of Scott Brown?

      STU: I have not searched for those myself, no.

      GLENN: A little disturbing.

      PAT: Unfortunately somebody shoved the cellphone picture of it, “Look at this” right in my face yesterday. During the TV meeting.

      STU: You didn’t mean to see these pictures.

      PAT: Please. It’s a guy!

      GLENN: So as a guy who has experienced that before, I understand. But I don’t understand the thinking of Scott Brown last night with his two daughters and national TV audience when he says this. Have you heard this, Stu?

      STU: I have not, no.

      BROWN: And just in case anybody who’s watching throughout the country, they’re both available.

      (So, is Sen. elect Brown “pimping out his daughters”? Or did he make a joke that is a softball pitch for anyone wanting to take a swing?)

      And Buck, are you going to watch Becks special on socialism tomorrow night?

      • Buck The Wala says:

        I try not to watch his drivel. Also, tomorrow night I will be heading into the city for dinner with some old friends.

        • Why is it the Back-Haters never want to mention detail about what Beck says? All they ever do is trash him and dismiss him as spouting drivel, or worse. How is Beck’s showing of interviews “lies” and “drivel”? Where does he find these look alike actors? How does he stage these events? BTW, I’m not a regular Beck watcher, but what little I’ve seen seems to fit with what I see in other places.

          • Buck The Wala says:

            I have watched his show in the past and every now and again I do watch him (or at least a few minutes before I get disgusted and switch channels). The man is filled with half-truths, misleading statements, and outright lies.

            • Like what? Can you give me an example? Please remember that I’m sitting on a lump of coral in the middle of the Pacific ocean and have very slow dial up. YouTube and other huge files are out of the question.

              • Buck The Wala says:

                If I was sitting on a lump of coral in the middle of the Pacific the last thing I would want is to hear me go on about Beck!

                Enjoy yourself!!!

                PS – If you couldn’t already guess, I’m extremely jealous.

                As for Beck though, let me put it this way – what are your thoughts on Olberman? I’m sure you have the same view of him as I have of Beck.

                • Cyndi;

                  I am at least partly with Buck. You setting on a lump of coral does not warrant any pity relative to your slow dial-up. However, I do pity you in that you are actually blogging while setting on that lump of coral verses enjoying the tropical atomosphere.

                  ASk the Cabana Boy for a “Hurricane” before you go insane and relax


                • I have a cold, the boss kicked me out of the shop and told me not to return until my germs are gone. Oh, and its been raining for three days and my tan is fading. Can I have some pity now, please? 😉

                  I also have to go easy on the booze because this island is too small and I’m too old to have a reputation!

                  As for Beck and Olberman. I used to watch Beck back when he was on CNN and was less inflamatory, so maybe that’s why I have more patience for him now. I’ve watched Olberman, but after the first five minutes I got his number. He’s never given me reason to believe he was anything but a partisan school child who gets lots of attention having temper tantrums. He strikes me as the type of guy that gets real nasty with you if you won’t sleep with him. I don’t have time for any guy like that, and that’s the impression he gives me. He’s not really trying to enlighten anyone with his veiws, so far as I can tell. He just wants attention and by behaving as he does, he gets it, just like Michael Moore, only less disgusting to look at.

                  • Buck The Wala says:

                    You see, just as I thought. In fact, you can take exactly what you wrote and substitute “Beck” for “Olberman” and “Ann Coulter” for “Michael Moore”.

                    I’ll give you a bit of pity for the cold, but not for the rest of it! Feel better!

        • Buck,

          I can agree he spouts a fair share of drivel. Were his statements on ACORN drivel? Was Van Jones an avowed communist? How many on the left have publicly stated they
          seek wisdom from the words of Che or Mao? And how many of
          them are in the White House?

          I noticed you did not take that little history quiz. Maybe you already know all this, me, I’m still trying to learn. And I posted Olberman the other day. Perhaps Ray, Matt or Todd will watch, and point out any false statements Beck makes in this documentary. Hey, he could win a Nobel Prize for this, just like Al!!!

          Glenn Beck …
          true history of che’, mao & stalin Fri Jan 22 4pm CST Glenn Beck on FOX: includes footage that may have never before been shown in the US — We’re not …

          • Good questions, LOI. Beck was right. Where’s the proof Olberman is truthful?

          • Buck The Wala says:

            Actually I did take the history test yesterday at home once I had access to a computer; didn’t post the score but got a 90% (admittedly with one or two lucky guesses).

            Look, I’m not going to stand here and argue that Olberman is always truthful and never misleading or wrong. And I’m not going to stand here and argue that Beck is never correct about something. Every dog has his day. 🙂 But just try to keep in mind that Olberman and Beck are both largely built from the same cloth – they are enterainers, paid to get on TV and argue their politics while criticizing the other side.

            I happen to like Olberman (big surprise, I’m sure) and enjoy most of his rants. But I was also quick to point out that the quote you posted the other day was ridiculous.

    • Wake up Buck. It’s only a minor improvement at the moment but you cant stop a barreling train. Get your earsready for November. You’re going to be force fed.

      • Buck The Wala says:

        All I’m saying is despite everyone’s guess as to what Brown’s election means, it remains just that, a guess. I agree that it COULD be an indication of something, but who knows what. It’s way too early to tell.

        • A Puritan Descendant says:

          Maybe I can help you Buck. I don’t actually believe this but you could use this as an argument >

          The people of Massachusetts love socialized health care so much they did not want to risk the Feds ruining what they already have.

          OR They don’t want to pay again for what they already have.

          Notice I spelled Massachusetts correctly which makes me at least qualified to campaign for Coakley.

  25. Maybe the tea partiers sold out a bit when they backed Brown. Time will ultimately tell. I didn’t like the fact that he voted for healthcare in MA but I voted for him for his overall views. I would have voted Libertarian but didn’t think they had a shot.
    I do think the Libertarians have the right message but they seem to have a huge difficulty getting it out there or is it that we are so brain washed with R’s and D’s that we choose not to believe what is staring us right in the face?
    I agree economic collapse is probably going to happen soon agree we need drastic changes.

    • Hi Sam,

      I think you’re on to something with the majority of voters being brainwashed into believing that Ds&Rs are the only choices we have. I hope voters will snap out of it as things continue to worsen. Sadly, there will always be some who will refuse, but with a little luck, the rest will be able to over come them.

      • Buck The Wala says:

        As of now the only choice we do have is Dems and Repubs. There just aren’t nearly enough Americans willing to vote outside of those two parties to give any third party even a fighting chance.

        The best that can come from a third party right now is a split in the GOP to ensure a Democratic win! 🙂

        Seriously though, I agree that we would probably be better served with more parties. But before its a viable option more people need to vote independent of the Ds and Rs now to allow other parties to truly emerge.

  26. Black Flag:

    List links to some of the sites that you visit on a regular basis. I would like to add them to my favorites.

    • I’ll start a list at my blog –

      PS: I can’t seem to create an account at “Strike the Root” – so if you have one, you can point my response into their comments if you like.

      • Black Flag:

        I tried creating an account at “Strike the Root” and it would not work for me. I e-mailed the site. They have a problem with their new account system.

    • PSS:

      Most of the sites I go to are boring (except this one 😉 ) – they are reading blogs and sometimes stale – which is why the information they have is rare and valuable – nobody puts the time in to learn how the Universe works, because, well – its boring.

  27. Brown winning could in fact be a strong sign, we’ll see. Maybe Mass did just get tired of the same ole sh*t, maybe the rest of the country will follow suit in Nov and toss ALL of those currently seated…we’ll see.

    American’s have a short memory and the mainstream media enables that memory by promoting whomever they are directed to promote.

    The internet is greatly benefiting the awakening, but even if the majority of those currently seated do get tossed, we as a nation will still find ourselves in a leaky lifeboat if we don’t maintain the directive to demand liberty and freedom.

    In the mean time let’s hope that the good people of Mass maintain a controlling arm on Mr. Brown…we’ll see.

    Hope all are well


    I agree we all need to educate as many as we possibly can in order to further the “awakening”, but this is best at the local/state level.

    • Only caught some of it, but Fox News is reporting that Nancy said “Because Scott Brown is the 41st vote the Health Care Bill will not pass”.

      NOt sure what the hell that sh*t-bag is really saying, but thought it was worth mentioning here.

      Anybody know the whole story?


      • CM

        What she said was that She doesn’t have the votes in the House to pass the Senate bill without amendments. That in effect kills the two bills as they are because the R’s will fillibuster the house bill or any modification of the Senat bill. Some D’s are now calling for major reconciliation to meet common ground of both sides.

        Bad news: Republican leaders say throw out the bills and start over in a true bipartisan and open manner. We will work on common ground. Brown made a similar statement, he is willing to work with everbody on real common sense solutions.

        If the Dems had a brain they would agree to pass the Republican plans with just some minor stuff from them. It would give them the foot in the door they need later to take over the whole damn thing.

        So….Browns election means nothing except delay.

        But remember what I said months ago. Delays are OK but don”t expect any real change until the American people change their core value systems.

        • Another good call, JAC. As long as Americans still buy into the two parties, we’ll still go over the cliff. Different speeds, same ending.


    Independent my ass …

    But let’s not kid ourselves about this Scott Brown fella. He didn’t use the word “Republican” in his acceptance speech the other night in an attempt to make it sound like he’s a populist independent owing allegiance to neither party. Yeah, right … this guy has voted with the Republicans 96% of the time. He’s as “independent” as MSNBC Obama ball washer, Chris Matthews is (or anything Republican ball washer Sean Hannity is).

  29. Ray Hawkins says:

    @USW – ooops – my head hasn’t exploded (just yet).

    I’m not sure I really get what you’re trying to say what Brown’s win really means. I know you were throwing the ‘thumbs up’ to folks on Faceboon – excited that Brown had won – but confusing is that no one can assert why Brown is or is not like every other crook/liar/scumbag that ends up in Washington. In the beginning of your post you used italicized words like “present” and “appeared” – this tells me you may not be sure what gear this guy is packing. Can you explain why that is a good thing?

    I also saw a lot of GOPers excited that if nothing else this meant the super-majority is gone. So – Brown can be the right wing version of Ted Kennedy – but who gives a shit so long as the Super Majority is gone. That is political gamesmanship – and it smells no better than an idiot like Coakley assuming she didn’t have to actually work for the seat.

    Also – almost nothing was said of the Liberty Party Candidate Joe “I am not one of those Kennedy’s” Kennedy. You know – the same guy who claimed to be strong armed by GOP operatives cause they worried he’d steal their votes. That Kennedy was virtually ignored herein seems a little weird.

    No one seems too worried what Brown brings to the table – just that the table was changed.

    • @Ray Hawkins

      Correct that I am not sure what Scott Brown will be like in Washington. Time will tell if what he gives is the same plain speak he campaigned on. On facebook I gave the thumbs up because I think the super majority in Congress is dangerous regardless of what party has it. Watching the idiots pass so much BS the last year has been tough. Knowing there was absolutely no way of even slowing it down was even tougher. I know that even you didn’t approve of the current health care legislation. I would imagine that you would be pleased to see that this will slow down, possibly reset, and attempt to get it closer to what you deem as correct.

      The point to my article was that people are electing and rallying behind candidates that seem to be different than the folks in Congress now. I believe Americans have grown tired of politics as usual in Washington. They clung to Obama because he promised to change that. When he got there he did nothing of the sort. So they are frustrated with him.

      Brown’s win was a rejection of the status quo politics in Washington. So was Palin’s rise. So was Obama’s win. That was the point.

      And as for the “who gives a shit so long as the super majority is gone” comment. Exactly. You could have elected Satan for all I care so long as one party doesn’t have the ability to ram through legislation with no debate and no regard for getting it right as opposed to serving their agenda and special interests.

      • Ray Hawkins says:

        @USW – sorry – cannot ride shotgun on the last paragraph – that smells like gamesmanship you rail against – bite off your nose to spite your face. It does matter who the candidate is and what he is all about – it matters every single time for every single seat in Congress – not sure where you drove in the ditch in your thinking.

        • Ray,

          I understand your premise and you misunderstand me when I say I am glad he won. HE was not my candidate and I would have been happy had anyone won so long as broke up the super majority. It isn’t gamesmanship, it is a recognition that one party having too much power is a bad thing. Every seat matters. That is true. But there comes a point where in order to get where I want to go, I need things to happen. I want freedom. The first step in that is slowing Congress down. So I am glad he won. Had there been a better candidate that would not have kept the super majority, I would have been even happier. But Brown said enough of the right things to make him better than Coakley. And he broke the super majority. Two reasons to be glad he won.

          Sorry I don’t have a better answer for you Ray. You can call it gamesmanship or pettiness. But anything that slows down the 535 crooks in DC is good in my book.


          • Ray Hawkins says:

            @USW – what major legislation was passed under the super majority that required the super majority to pass? Answer = none. ARRA doesn’t count because it didn’t require a SM and the SM has never been a true Democrat SM (2 Indies and 3 GOP for ARRA) – there is not a single party SM and there never was. The post-mortem is that Democrats blew it – they played to this idiotic notion of the filibuster – allowing a minority to obstruct the elected and seated majority – thereby scared into a cloture corner that any legislation would require the 60 votes – maybe that speaks to their own concerns of potential ‘swinging for the fences’ as I have addressed before.

            Cap N Trade has gone nowhere. Health reform was never guaranteed a pass and it is likely to be completely neutered by the time the patches are placed on.

            I guess I am just surprised to hear an ‘end justifies the means’ from you on this.

            • How about health care Ray? Oh that doesn’t count because they used the Super Majority for the first passage but had an election before they could do so the second time? They used the super majority for health care. That was how it was passed. They would have used it again on any issue that they wanted to pass that they needed to use it for. Heck, now they are talking about using reconciliation as an end around on health care. They use every single swindly tactic they can use in Congress, and you are upset because I am glad that they had at least one trick taken out of their bag?

              How is this the end justifies the means? What horrible means were used? Brown won. No horrible means exist in this situation that need to be justified. But you can’t expect me to be disappointed because the Democrats in Congress had a road block thrown in the way of passing a health care bill that I have been very clear in stating that I didn’t support. I didn’t say I advocated “stealing” an election to stop the super majority. I didn’t say that I supported any criminal tactics or even dirty play. I simply said I was glad that the Democrats no longer had a super majority. And if the roles were reversed I would be glad the Republicans didn’t have a SM. No party should have unmitigated ability to pass whatever they like.

              • Ray Hawkins says:

                @USW – let me simplify this for you – not a shred of major legislation has been signed by POTUS that needed/required the super majority. Zilch. None. Zero. The notion that even electing Satan would have been a good idea to eliminate the super majority (which I will mention again, was not a true super majority) is an empty and false notion. Everything else is woulda coulda shoulda.

                The “means” here is I intended it is precisely what you do not know. It is the same insane idea that so many folks (and as OFT quoted here) voted for Obama for a single reason – he is black. You stated that you could care less who was voted in so long as the super majority was eliminated. Extend that idea one more length – how about we take the same tactic in the next POTUS election? Everyone hates POTUS and the horrible job he has done. So – if for no other reason than we want POTUS gone (you have sorta said this already) let’s vote someone/anyone into that job. Have a heatbeat? Great! Say the right things? Excellent! You’re in!

                Finally, there is no unmitigated ability to pass anything – that is ridiculous. If that were the case then we’d already have Healthcare reform, Cap N Trade would be in, guns would be banned, every liberal wet dream would have been passed into legislation – the scare tactics you use this way ring too close to what the fringe tries to do to scare the shit out of everyone and adopt their warped line of thinking. So back to the facts – please point out to me what major Democratic/Liberal legislation was passed (meaning it has POTUS ink on it) that needed/required the SM? NONE my friend. Stop trying to scare people.

                • I’m more concerned about the WH ‘directives’ or whatever they’re called, which dont seem to get the light of day.

                  In curious. Does anyone know what bills did Bush pass with his SM? What was passed and how during Bushs last two years? My uninformed guess is that he included the dems.

                  How did it happen that the top folks in the Obama admin didnt know about the Xmas bomber ?

                  Even you libs have to acknowledge that Obama is an inexperienced political hack and should NEVER have been elected. Just look at the people around him.

                  BTW – how come there is no smoke about the GM theft? GMAFB !!

  30. Judy Sabatini says:

    Will you people please watch this video and tell me what should be done about the mother and stepfather who abused this poor little baby from the time he was 2 weeks old, until the stepfather killed him. You don’t really want to know what I think. It was out up on my face book.

    Thank you.


    • Judy Sabatini says:

      If you go to it just press watch again, Or go on my face book, it’s on there.

    • Judy,

      I support the death penalty.

      I do not seek vengeance.

      There is no debt they can ever repay.

      Society should not have to pay to imprison them for the rest of their lives.

      Never again.

      • Judy Sabatini says:

        Hi LOI

        Ordinarily, I would say, let them rot in hell, but even that’s too good for these people and what they’ve done. I’m sorry and I know I’m going to get some flack for this, but I think in this case the death penalty warrants it.

        To think, that anybody can do such harm to such a defenseless baby, I’m sorry, but there is no excuse for it, none, not ever, not in cases like this. There is no excuse to ever torture a child like what this step father did to this baby, and on top of it, the mother is just as guilty for letting this happen, then lying about it.

  31. Hi Ya’ll! 🙂

    After reading throughout the day, watching and reading many different news reports (I looked at MSN, CNN and FOX) as well as reading some different blog postings on both sides of the isle, I have come to the conclusion that this will likely change very little. Our Govt., over the years has continued to take away our freedoms and liberties, little by little. I don’t see why I should believe that this election of one Senator will have a huge impact, if any at all, of this continueing.

    I’m happy for those that are celebrating this. If it makes you happy, then enjoy it too the fullest extent. Some stuff that I’ve read by the lefties I found to be rather disturbing (not from those who post here). Many of the comments I’ve read were down right brutal. I found these people rather ignorant and borish, and had no desire to engage them in discussion, they I believe are thoroughly brainwashed.

    As a youngster, I always liked Pro Wrestling, not so today. But I agree with what Jesse Ventura said, “Washington is like Pro Wrestling, it’s a big show for everyone to see, then they go out and have cocktails”. What will really change? I’m sure, during the show, they will show differences, only to keep right on digging our economic hole deeper, because they always have some lame excuse that far to many people fall for. Not me, I’ve given up completely on DC, they are useless and I am working on removing them from my life. I’ve shut the entire banking industry off, and I’m just fine! The Feds are next!

    OK, I feel better after my rant! 🙂

    Hope everyone is having a super day!


    • I agree that Brown’s win will have little true impact on the way Gov’t operates. It will only be a matter time before he is just another politician(if he isn’t already). I may be wrong in seeing this more about the voters than the washington machine, but it was the first time in a while I feel like people woke up and saw through the BS being fed to them and decided to do something about it.

      • We can only hope that poeple are seeing through the BS. Now, that would be change I could believe in!

      • Hi Jackson!

        Welcome to the land of SUFA! 🙂

        After watching the reaction of people when Obama was elected, I flashed back to one of many muder/thrillers I’ve seen. The old rich spinster gets sick, and a long lost relative shows up, and with a big smile says “I’m here to help”. And with glee, the spinster welcomes with open arms and joy, only to have her entire body gets hacked into a thousand pieces and partially eaten. If it weren’t for that nosey neighbor, the crime would never have been discovered, but alas, the nosy neighbor calls the cops, who bust the evil relative.

        The spinster (anyone who believes the govt is there to help), the govt (evil relative) and the nosey neighbor (most of the people here) could make up that same cast today!

        Peace and Live Free!


  32. Judy Sabatini says:

    Another story on animal cruelty and child neglect. Good Lord, what the hell is wrong with people anymore.

    N.Y. Mom Pleads Not Guilty to Abusing Family Pets

    Thursday, January 21, 2010

    RIVERHEAD, N.Y. — A Long Island woman has pleaded not guilty to abusing family pets in front of her children. Investigators say 42 dead animals were later found buried in her yard.

    Defense attorney James Saladino told a judge Thursday he’s considering an insanity defense for Sharon McDonough.

    McDonough also is accused of using excessive corporal punishment because her toddler’s crying woke her up.

    She could face up to two years in prison if convicted of the top charge, aggravated animal cruelty. She also is charged with child endangerment and animal torture.

    Her adult son contacted authorities about the living conditions of his younger siblings. He also complained that five dogs and a cat were mistreated in the Selden home.

  33. A Puritan Descendant says:

    Which is correct???
    Rush seems to be saying the ruling only applies to ads NOT ‘directly to a political campaign’.

    From Fox News :

    In a stunning reversal of the nation’s federal campaign finance laws, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 Thursday that free-speech rights permit groups like corporations and labor unions to directly spend on political campaigns, prompting the White House to pledge “forceful” action to undercut the decision.

    From Rush’s website:

    RUSH: Freedom is awaking from its coma today because of a huge, huge, huge Supreme Court decision, huge. I cannot tell you how big this is. It’s a 5-4 decision. The decision was written by Justice Kennedy. And what it does, it removes limits on independent expenditures that are not coordinated with candidate’s campaigns. Meaning corporations and not-for-profits can spend any amount of money they want running ads and there’s no limit as to when those ads can be run.

  34. This video is directly related to todays topic. I think you will get a good laugh! 🙂

    • Judy Sabatini says:

      Hey G

      Seen that before, but can’t remember for what. By the way, isn’t that from Englorious Bastards with Brad Pitt?

      How you doing?

      • I’m fine. Not sure what movie, but that looks right. Small ice storm hitting late tonight, should make for a fun ride to work!


        • Judy Sabatini says:

          Yea, we’re getting snow right now, in fact it’s been snowing for a couple hours now. Not heavy, just that drizzle snow, doesn’t lighten up or get any stronger. Looks like about an inch so far.

          Glad to hear you’re doing fine. By the way, did you watch that video I sent you? I also put it up here too.

          • Yep, watched it. Very sad that a human can be that horrible….wait there is Nancy Pelosi! My justice would be swift, maybe. Maybe a slow lengthy torture would fit?


            • Judy Sabatini says:

              I cried after watching that. I don’t know where Christine, she’s my niece by marriage, got that, but it really did a number on me.

  35. Judy Sabatini says:

    For all Who Work With Rude Customers, shame WE can’t actually do this !
    An award should go to the Virgin Airlines desk attendant in Sydney some months ago for being smart and funny, while making her point, when confronted with a passenger who probably deserved to fly as cargo.
    A crowded Virgin flight was cancelled after Virgin’s 767s
    had been withdrawn from service. A single attendant was re-booking a long line of inconvenienced travellers. Suddenly an angry passenger pushed his way to the desk.

    He slapped his ticket down on the counter and said, ‘I HAVE to be on this flight and it HAS to be FIRST CLASS’..
    The attendant replied, ‘I’m sorry, sir. I’ll be happy to
    try to help you, but I’ve got to help these people first,
    and I’m sure we’ll be able to work something out.’
    The passenger was unimpressed. He asked loudly, so that the
    passengers behind him could hear, ‘DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO I AM?’
    Without hesitating, the attendant smiled and grabbed her
    public address microphone:

    ‘May I have your attention please, may I have your attention please,’ she began – her voice heard clearly throughout the terminal – ‘we have a passenger here at Desk 14 WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHO HE IS. If anyone can help him find his identity, please come to Desk 14.’
    With the folks behind him in line laughing hysterically,
    the man glared at the Virgin attendant, gritted his teeth and said, ‘F… You!’
    Without flinching, she smiled and said, (I love this bit)
    ‘I’m sorry, sir, but you’ll have to get in line for that

    • I have a friend that traveled frequently. Once he was in a line and watched a passenger give the clerk all kinds of trouble in an unfriendly way. When my friend got to the podium, he congratulated the attendant for keeping her cool. She said, “We have our ways, he’s going to Philadelphia, his bag is going to the Phillipines.”

      • Judy Sabatini says:

        Hey T

        That’s too funny, but what a way to get even with someone.

        Hope you’re doing well.

      • Don’t get mad, get even! I love it.

        A friend of mine recently had her bag go on the grand tour. I think I casually ask her how her check in went……


  36. Ya gotta love when the politicians show their true strips and prove you right again…

    We are past campaign mode

    Not even 24 hrs. and ‘flip’ on health care… LoL!

    And people really believe their votes make a difference!! LoL!

    • Damn this dial up! What did he say?

    • v. Holland says:

      Actually it’s not a flip-he said basically the same thing during a debate-I heard the same words and I didn’t take it the way you did-I think we all think everyone should have insurance and he talks a lot about fiscal responsibility-so I guess we will have to wait and see what his words actually meant.

    • tea drinker says:

      I think you are reading too much into this. He has not reversed on his position. Maybe you weren’t listening carefully. I believe Brown’s stance has always been that there is a need for healthcare but, that the States should decide rather than the Federal Govt and that one state should not eat the cost for others allowed to opt out.

      • v. Holland says:

        Also, I couldn’t hear the question that he was asked -so I don’t really know why he said we are past the campaign mode.

  37. Judy Sabatini says:

    Good night all.


  38. Everyone on here is for health care, I reason. It is the HOW, is it not? Brown’s statement last night is that he voted for the health care in Mass…but would not again. It does not work.

    We shall see what he does.

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