Super Bowl Weekend

This weekend has a little bit for everyone.  On Sunday we have Super Bowl 47.  The collision of the coasts has the AFC Baltimore Ravens taking on the NFC San Francisco 49ers.  To top it off, the respective head coaches are brothers!  That is a first in the NFL’s  history.  I’ll pass on my predictions below.  Some folks, however, don’t follow football.  On Saturday, they get to enjoy waking up long before dawn to watch a groundhog determine how the rest of winter is going to play out.  You see, if the little rodent sees his shadow, we up here in the North get 6 more weeks of winter.  This is but one reason why we shoot these varmints when we see them.  This little rodent, known as Punksetawny Phil, will arise with much fanfare and anticipation on Saturday morning to pass on his normal bad news.

These times will be a nice break from all the doom and gloom of politics, the economy, and the off the wall stuff that all of that brings us.   Good Luck to the Super Bowl teams.  Enjoy Groundhog Day (would someone shoot that critter already).  But most of all, be safe out there.  It’s a dangerous world full of cops, politicians and woodchucks.


  1. Good Morning SUFA 🙂

    My predictions: The damn groundhog will see his shadow, which is supposed to mean 6 more weeks of winter, yippee 😦
    I’m picking the Ravens over the 49ers 34 to 31. The 49ers will mount a huge comeback to tie the game at 31 only to watch the Ravens move the ball quickly into field goal range to win it with no time left on the clock. John, the oldest brother, will get the family bragging rights at least for a year. 🙂

  2. CBS:

    Super Bowl XLVII will only be played once, and it will be on the field in New Orleans. But with two weeks to fill in between the championship games and the Super Bowl, there’s some time to run some numbers., a website that predicts the outcome of sporting events based on computer models, ran more than just “some” numbers. They ran Sunday’s 49ers vs. Ravens match-up through their system 50,000 times to see what the most likely outcome of the game will be.

    I wonder if this shares anything with those computer models behind global warming predictions….if so, I’d lay money on the Ravens!

  3. It’s a dangerous world full of cops, politicians and woodchucks.

    Don’t forget crazy-right-wingers-packing-heat!!

  4. If Kathy wants Ray to go away, I want him to stay 🙂

    You’ll get my lock of the year later tonight/tomorrow when TK is posted … but then I’ll be disappearing again because of a thesis deadline due Feb 12 … how do you make a fatso disappear, yous ask?

    Tell him in which room their hiding the food …

  5. Truth has never been spoken quite so well.


    Does MSNBC really think that their viewers actually understand the term investment?

  7. FYI 😦 So far this year, thanks to our wonderful freedom loving Federal government, I will have 29 bucks less per pay to spend in our economy. That equals 754 bucks this year. I make 21K a year. After Federal, State, Medicare, and Social Security, I pay 24 % in taxes directly from the paycheck.

    Now, I will ask Buck. I’m certainly paying my fair share. This don’t count property tax, Pa school tax, gas taxes, sales taxes and those that I’m missing. Granted, I will likely see some of this come back to me after I do my tax returns in 2014, but that could change as well. I will be doing my 2012 taxes soon, so I will know where I may stand.

    I’m far from rich, but I’m damn happy and have everything I need. If it weren’t for the corruption that occurs within the Feds and all the programs they manage, I probably wouldn’t have an issue with these numbers. But, I do have a problem with these numbers, and fully plan on lowering these payouts to where I come out as close to even as possible.

    I have thought of starting a protest where every one tired of the Feds do the same thing, or, claiming 6 exemptions and saving the money to pay the tax bill the next year on April 15th. I wonder what they would do if all working Americans did that? It’s legal, I’ve done it in the past. I paid 13 bucks one year, whoopie! 🙂

    Any thoughts?

    • I think if everyone did it the government would make it illegal to do it that way.

    • Bottom Line says:

      Est la soumission au vol par la contrainte un acte de lâcheté?


      • English, please! At least subtitle it 🙂

        • Bottom Line says:

          Est la soumission au vol par la contrainte un acte de lâcheté? = Submission is theft by force an act of cowardice? = Is submission to theft by coercion an act of cowardice?

          Forgive me, G. I am being facetious in response to your comment about French cowardice. I made less than half of what you did last year. My income is usually somewhere at the bottom, well below the poverty line. I don’t normally file.

          I have a lot of French blood, ya know. As best as I have been able to research thus far, my name stems from ancient nomadic tribes that settled into Belgium as grain farmers, later to migrate into Luxembourg, Lorraine, and Alsace.

          For lack of information, I haven’t been able to definitively trace my paternal line past the early 1800’s as what little survived the revolutionary period only leads to increasing confusion.

          I don’t suppose it matters without progeny to pass it on to though. Without progeny, I am not sure anything matters.

          Youth is King.

          • Don’t worry about the French thingy, I don’t see much in taughting where my ancestors came from, I was born here, that’s all that matters. Youth may be King, but there is no replacement for experience! 🙂

            • Bottom Line says:

              ” Don’t worry about the French thingy ”

              It’s all good, G, as it is in the interest of fun.

              ” I don’t see much in taughting where my ancestors came from, I was born here, that’s all that matters. ”

              For me, it isn’t really about national boundaries or necessarily about race. I simply find ancestry to be most fascinating. I suppose it is a lot about curiosity as to how bloodlines are all connected.

              BTW, like you, I have some Scottish in me also…and English, Irish, German, etc.

              Also, like you, I consider the US my home land, regardless of borders.

              ” Youth may be King, but there is no replacement for experience! ”

              Agreed, …which is why we have an obligation to be responsible with the wisdom and knowledge our experience provides for us. Everything about human culture eventually ends up as the responsibility of future generations. More times than not, this is the context in which I use the phrase.

              I like to think of it as ” Youth is King, thus we must use our experience to teach our replacements! ”


    • Sorry Gman, but that’s the payroll tax holiday. Obama proposed extending it as part of the “Fiscal Cliff” deal, but Republicans wouldn’t extend it.

      • Don’t be sorry for me Todd, I’ll survive just fine. It’s those much worse off and struggling before all this that it will hurt. I know some families like that. What I’m surprised about, is noone on the left seemed to blink an eyelid over all of this. Maybe all of this faux “we fight for the poor” BS that the Dems spew show them for what they are, liars. Don’t worry though, the Repugs are doing the same thing. One day, everyone will see how full of crap the political parties really are.

  8. 😦

    Church Says Wounded Warrior Project Refused Their Money

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    Church Says Wounded Warrior Project Refused Their Money

    Feb 1, 2013

    By Todd Starnes

    A Christian church and school in Florida are devastated after they said Wounded Warrior Project refused to accept their fund raising effort because it was “religious in nature.”

    “We were heartbroken,” said Wallace Cooley, pastor of Liberty Baptist Church and Academy in Fort Pierce, Fla.

    Cooley said they had already paid a $100 registration fee to raise money for the Wounded Warrior Project and were about to launch the campaign when they received an email from the organization.

    The church had planned on taking up a special offering on the last Sunday in February and students were collecting money from family and friends.

    “We must decline the opportunity to be the beneficiary of your event due to our fundraising event criteria, which doesn’t allow community events to be religious in nature,” read an email from the WWP community events team. “Please note your registration fee will be refunded within the next 7-10 business days.”CHURCH

    WWP said as a nonpartisan organization they cannot accept event fundraising from companies “in which the product or message is religious in nature.”

    Pastor Cooley said they were so shocked that the school secretary called Wounded Warrior to make sure there hadn’t been a mistake. He said a WWP representative assured her that “religious” was indeed on their banned list.

    “We had to tell our children and parents we can’t give to the Wounded Warrior Project,” Pastor Cooley told Fox News. “We are second-class citizens now because we are people of faith.”

    A Wounded Warrior told Fox News they would look into the matter. The organization did not respond to subsequent telephone calls.

    The fundraising project was a joint effort by the 400-member church and the 460 students who attend the academy. The pastor said he first learned about WWP by watching Fox News Channel.

    “We appreciate the freedoms we enjoy in this country and the fact that our soldiers have fought for freedom of religion,” he said. “We teach patriotism in our school.”

    The pastor said they expected to raise as much as $50,000 for the veterans.

    “We are not a wealthy congregation,” he said. “But they are generous. We could tell as we began to talk to our people that it stirred their hearts.”

    He said the idea of giving sacrificially to help someone else struck a chord with students in the academy.

    Ted and Cherilyn Mein have two young daughters who attend the school. She said the girls were simply devastated by the news that the fundraising effort had been cancelled.

    “Our school is all about patriotism,” she told Fox News. “We teach that our country was founded for religious freedom – and then to find out that we couldn’t even support the Wounded Warriors because we are Christians – it was hard to explain it to them.”

    Kindergarten teacher Tanya Sue Albritton posted a note on the Wounded Warrior Project Facebook page recounting what she had to tell her class.

    “They were very sad,” Albritton wrote. “One little girl wanted to know, ‘Why can’t we share with the soldiers?’”

    “I was at a loss as to what I should tell her because I don’t understand it myself,” she wrote. “Well, WWP, why can’t we share with the soldiers?”

    Cooley broke the news to his congregation in what he called “one of the saddest letters I have ever had to write.”

    “We are very disappointed that we, as a religious organization, are being discriminated against,” he wrote to parents. “But they are a private organization and have and should have the freedom to make their own rules.”

    On the flip side, the pastor told parents that “we also have the right to make our choice as to where our support goes.”

    Becky Sharp teaches sixth grade at Liberty Baptist Academy. She posted a message on the Wounded Warrior Facebook page noting here extreme disappointment. She said her students had already raised $400 – many of the boys and girls donated their lunch money.

    “I am deeply disappointed that an organization such as yours would reject money from American citizens who want to thank their soldiers for what they have done,” she wrote.

    Parents like the Meins are now struggling with how to explain to their children what happened.

    “I can’t say that I’ve found a good way to explain it to my children yet,” she said.

    The pastor said they have already returned donations that had been collected and will be looking for another veterans group to help.

    • This is very sad, if it’s true.

      • I have this feeling that something is wrong here. If an organization is taking donations to help others, why would they care where it came from? 🙄

        • There is a rejection of the donation included so I assume it is true. But to add to your confusion-I don’t really understand why one would have to register, not to mention pay to register-to be able to make a charitable donation.

  9. Here’s what yous have been waiting for … Knucks’ Super Bowl prediction?

    • Amici, we picked the same team! How can that be? You are a French loving Commie Pinko and , well, I’m not!!! 🙂

      Have a ball, stay out of trouble and don’t eat too much! I will probably do all of that, only because that damn groundhog will depress me 😆

    • For a curmudgeon you have an exciting life. Good kids sounds like a winner, I may have to investigate. The Panhandlers..funny stuff!

      49ers by 3, because Jim H is a Michigan man. I have 10 bucks on squares,,hope to come away with at least $125!

      The groundhog says whatever he wants every year and it still takes forever for spring to get here. 21 degrees in Mich today.

  10. Gotta love dumb gun laws. Maybe just dumb cops. Maybe dumb politicians. OR, you can see why we need the 2nd Amendment, to shut this dumb crap down!

    Magazines? Really? What’s he gonna do, throw them at someone? Freaking stupid!?!

  11. Bottom Line says:

  12. I have a few problems with the mans word choice-don’t much care for the unaccomplish dig and really hate the use of the word skanky. There may be a couple more but these jumped out at me. But I think he made some very valid points otherwise.

  13. Gman, only 2 more weeks of winter per Phil.

    • Phil don’t know the weather up here apparently. It was fun watching all the people react like it was anything less than fantasy, kinda like an Obama speech 🙂

  14. Hey, looks like the perfect place for you guys, especially LOI who doesn’t like all the Facebook censorship.

    • Looks interesting. Texas seems well represented. My Facebook beef was over a friend demanding a conversation on gun control laws. When my response countered her post, she deleted it, some conversation! To me, that was an example of the hypocrisy of most liberals. Piers Morgan will only allow gun violence to be discussed. Murder by gun only, even if more people were murdered with a bat than a rifle. Thanks for the shout out Todd, guess that means you’ve missed me. lol

    • VHS…do not worry about open borders in Texas or New Mexico. We are profiling and stopping almost everything. What we have found in the last two weeks is that 3 of 10 ID’s are fakes…including Texas Drivers Licenses, U S passports, green cards, and F M ‘s. that is a 30 percent rate…. Far more than a mere one percent. This rate justifies profiling and random checks.

      So, it does not matter what passes in Congress……we will still check authenticity of I D’s looking for forgeries. Now, this only applies to Texas and New Mexico. We have set up check points outside the exclusionary zones. Not only are we catching fake ID’s, but we are catching smuggling of parrots, under age prostitutes, and two Eastern Europeans with fake papers.

      The other thing we are seeing are thousands of people pouring in to the Mexican border cities to try to get in the country before any new law is passed. Mexico just recently changed parties..and the ” mordida” is alive and well once again. It is going to get real nasty down here. At least we are not shooting bean bags…..we shoot LEAD at high speeds.

      Enjoy your Super Bowl. The only entertainment is probably going to be the commercials.

    • VH,

      No chance they can agree on immigration reform. Republicans insist on a closed border. Our president is currently requiring ICE to ignore legally mandated law as applied to illegal immigrants. Entitlement reform will also be mixed in, do illegals get welfare, SS, healthcare, etc? Dem’s will not allow any entitlement reform, so dead on arrival if they were able to agree enough to get it thru the house or senate. It might be a good strategy since the media is giving Repugs favorable coverage. Contrast that to how the media blame Repug’s for the budget when the house has passed several & the senate refuses to pass one & Obama’s budget has been DOA every single time. Just media talking points for later battles.

      • I have no doubt you are right-just thought both speakers brought up some valid points-or starting points.

        I am really not sure what our present policy on legal immigrants, here on visa’s, green cards , etc. are when it comes to welfare etc.

  15. I would like to hear comments on the photo of O shooting skeet from all you gun experts. I shot skeet once many years ago with a borrowed gun. Wasn’t hard. I see obvious problems with the photo but would like your comments.

    • He’s holding the wrong end 😆

    • He has it too high in his shoulder, the toe taking most of the recoil.
      It’s a double barrel shotgun with a choke tube in the top barrel only. This indicates he’s shooting singles only, not doubles.
      The barrel is ported for reduced recoil. (the smoke coming out the top)
      He’s aimed straight out, could be legit but most skeet are shot at a higher elevation.
      I don’t like the front hand hold, almost wrapping the barrel/forearm stock. (you get that with beginners & it usually resolves itself when they get comfortable/confident with shooting)
      Earmuffs get in the way, earplugs work better.
      Everything shouts photo op, not a serious shooter. Not someone that does this even occasionally but repeatedly! After three to four outings where you would expect him to fire 25 rounds, this look like the first time he’s fired a firearm.

      • Wait…..this is not possible. They, the people who brought you gun control, that said a flash suppressor is an assault weapon attachment. Do they not realize that a shot gon Poly choke and a ported barrel is…….um…….a flash suppressor? So, that means that Obama must be shooting an illegal weapon.

      • Thanks LOI, I spotted most of what you said right away and I am by no means a gun expert. The venting is something I have not seen before. The butt looks to be almost in his shoulder joint. If so, I would think he would learn not to do that on the first shot. The left hand looks awkward as well. The cheek is planted firmly on the stock, must hurt from the recoil. No evidence of recoil. The barrel is pointed horizontal so if he is shooting clay, it is way late in the arc. Some have suggest for such a well lit person, the woods behind is dark indicating a photo-flood lit staged shot. Also some have claimed there are no paved paths in the shooting range at Camp David. I have no problem with the man stating he has never shot before. But I do if he is faking it.

  16. Crony Contraception

    By David Catron on 2.1.13 @ 6:08AM

    Why the HHS is fighting so hard to enforce the anti-conscience mandate.

    The central issue of the public debate over the Obama administration’s contraception mandate, which of course requires all manner of religious and secular entities to fund sterilizations, contraceptives, and abortifacients, has been its brazen disregard of basic liberties guaranteed by the First Amendment. That the focus has been on this aspect of the mandate is hardly surprising. The cavalier manner with which HHS imposed it on Catholic hospitals, universities, and private businesses whose owners object on religious grounds is unprecedented.

    And, if the string of legal setbacks suffered by the administration in the lawsuits filed by various plaintiffs pursuant to the HHS edict is any indication, the courts are also uneasy with the mandate: “In the cases involving business owners, judges have granted temporary injunctions to businesses in nine of 14 cases they’ve heard.” In December alone, 5 out of 6 rulings went against HHS in cases involving both non-profit and for-profit entities. Its only “win” was a predictable ruling by an Obama appointee to the Supreme Court.

    Nonetheless, despite Justice Sotomayor’s refusal to enjoin enforcement of the mandate against Hobby Lobby, it is virtually certain that at least one of the many legal challenges to the HHS rule will reach the Supreme Court. And this suggests a question: Why would the Obama administration, having won the legislative struggle to get Obamacare passed and fought a brutal legal battle to prevent it from being overturned by the Supreme Court, risk another visit to that fickle tribunal by insisting on this egregious mandate?

    An answer is suggested by the President’s recent nomination of William B. Schultz to head the legal team at Health & Human Services. Never heard of Mr. Schultz? He is an attorney and long-time lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry. He has been acting general counsel for HHS since last year. What has this to do with the contraception mandate? Well, as Tim Carney of the Washington Examiner has pointed out, Schultz’s biggest client was “Barr Laboratories, maker of the morning-after contraception pill known as Plan B.”

    Contraception is big business, and the HHS mandate promises to turn it into a cash cow for companies like Barr Laboratories. How? Avik Roy explains: “Under the current system, drug companies have an incentive to compete on price.… Under the new mandate, this price incentive disappears.” Insurance policies that covered contraception prior to the mandate encouraged patients to forego pricey products by charging higher co-pays than for generic equivalents. The HHS mandate forbids such co-pays, so there is no incentive to choose “Brand X.”

    Roy goes on as follows: “Drug companies will be able to market ‘branded’ contraceptives at premium prices, knowing that women are free to choose the most expensive, designer product because it will cost them the same as the cheapest generic.” In other words, the contraception mandate is a license to steal for Big Pharma. Does that explain why President Obama and his Commissar of HHS, Kathleen Sebelius, are willing to endure another round of legal battles? Yep. The fix was obviously in at least as far back as 2009.

    This is why the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) backed “health reform” by bankrolling a Democrat-designed propaganda campaign. The Wall Street Journal reported last summer that PhRMA and other industry lobbying groups coordinated with the White House to produce a multi-million dollar advertising blitz to promote Obamacare. “In particular, the drug lobby would spend $70 million on two 501(c)(4) front groups called Healthy Economy Now and Americans for Stable Quality Care.”

    Moreover, as Peter Schweizer has reported, “[A]mong President Obama’s biggest financial backers are precisely the Big Pharma companies who benefit from the mandate.” And they go well beyond William Schultz and Barr Laboratories. Schweizer elaborates as follows: “Sally Sussman, head of government affairs for Pfizer, is one of [Obama’s] biggest campaign bundlers … Pfizer sells numerous contraceptives that now must be covered by health-care plans. Obama’s financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry run deep.”

    All of which suggests that the HHS contraception mandate is just another Chicago-style payback scheme designed to reward one of the President’s most reliable financial backers. And, unlike the feckless AMA, Big Pharma isn’t about to be fobbed off with empty promises. That’s why William B. Schultz has been nominated by Obama to be General Counsel at HHS. This promises to be a pivotal year in the legal war over the egregious anti-conscience mandate and Big Pharma has no intention of sitting on the sidelines as a spectator.

    So, while the most important issues at stake here involve religious liberty, only one side of the public debate and legal battle really cares about that. For Obama, Sebelius, Schultz, and their myriad cronies, this is all about the Benjamins. They’re looking for a payday and will cheerfully trash the First Amendment to get it. Thus far they aren’t doing so well in court, but we’ve been here before. When the anti-conscience mandate finally arrives at the Supreme Court, we’ll find out which matters more, the Constitution or cash.

    • Ha ha what do you say about this. A Judge who is supposed to pass judgement on others is either nuts or just unable to control herself. Hopefully the Judge who gets to judge her, knows the difference between being temp. insane and just being angry, stupid, and you could probably throw in a little superiority complex too.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Nothing, I repeat, nothing, that Democrat voters do will surprise me. Harry Reid is still a Senator for Pete’s sake! He, as the leader of the Senate, has broken the law at least 4 times and nothing is being done.

  17. T-Ray…per your request.

    This is the first time that I really have had the time to study this pic.

    D13’s observations:

    1) He is a left handed shooter shooting an over/under what appears to be a 20 gauge shotgun with a screw in choke on the top barrel, with a right hand twist butt stock, which accounts for the improper hold that LOI observed.

    2) If he were an experienced shooter, his weight distribution on his lower body would be entirely different. For example, he is not leaning into the shot to reduce the recoil. Experienced skeet shooters would have a forward stance. A forward stance reduces recoil and permits a greater barrel swing to allow the barrel to stay on target. This stance prevents following skeet.

    3) The weapon he is firing is made for quail hunting and not skeet shooting. It is lightweight and shorter designed for shooting on the “rise”.

    4) LOI has already observed that the butt of the weapon is not secured in the “crux” of the shoulder. There is no absorption of the recoil except the “toe” of the shotgun. I would be willing to bet all of Buck’s coffee that he had a bruise after firing this shot.

    5) The sight picture that he is doing is not at a skeet range at all…..possibly “trap” but as an experienced skeet tournament shooter, his elevation is not proper.

    6) Experienced shooters will wear amber glasses even on bright sunny days. Amber glasses allow for greater sight distance and higher resolution on targets.

    7) This type of ear protection is made for handguns. Not long barrel weapons.

    8) The type of choke in the top barrel of the weapon is a mystery to me as to why it is there. This is not indicative of a skeet weapon although. Most experienced skeet shooters have a shotgun where the barrel is manufactured “modified” and “full” on the chokes. (What a choke does is regulate the size of the shot pattern upon leaving the barrel.) A modified pattern is a more diverse shot while a full pattern is more tightly lunched for further shots.

    9) This is not a skeet weapon because of the gas dispersing pattern. Dispersing or channeling gas ports to the side of the weapon blinds a second shot on skeet ranges on a left to right swing, All of the gas pattern needs to be behind the shot.

    This picture is strictly photo op and NOT the picture of an experienced shooter at all. His stance is not forward nor wide enough. He is NOT on a skeet range and his trajectory is bullshit. Even a photo op would be behind the shooter on a skeet range.

    Oh…..and…..not that anybody noticed……even though he is shooting an over/under shotgun………………the absence of a slide or pump…..shows you that this is semi automatic….One pull of the trigger, one shot. Two pulls….two shots. The hypocrisy of this is that some of the weapons on Feinstein’s list…….only hold two or three shots but are classified as semi automatic.

    My observations, sir.

    • Thanks Colonel. I wondered about the stance as well. Seemed like he was too far back on his heels. I had not thought about the camera angle. But you are correct, the cameraman should be behind. If they were shooting skeet, then why was it not framed to get one of the houses or to show the launcher? Why go to all the trouble to show that he is a shooter only to raise more questions? Better to have left it alone.

      • Not if the point is to have us talking about it. This way we are all “attacking” the President-and they love us “attacking” the first Black President.

        • I don’t know that we are attacking – I think we are just laughing at this stooge.

          • I know that 🙂 was being sarcastic-but at the same time-they are and will continue to use anything negative we say about this man as an excuse to call us racists. And I’m pretty sure many of these little side roads are used for just that reason.

            • gmanfortruth says:

              Obama seems to be quite feminine if you ask me. He could be the next Rupaul if he had a sense of humor 🙂

              • Well, some people are out there saying he’s gay already -so someone else beat you to the punch 🙂

                Heck, my own Senator, the same as slapped him with a glove and challenged him to a duel. As much as I enjoyed it 🙂 There has to be a better way. A winning way would be nice.

  18. Seems the school system in this locallity wants to teach the value of stealing. Descourage students from coming up with anything worthwhile at least while in school.

  19. Wow, when you first start reading, you think How ridiculous, then you start reading some of the names chosen and you think, Crap, giving a child some of these names really does sound criminal. Some people are just- stupid.

    • I think a court in the US intervened once when a family of neo-Nazi’s wanted to name their kid Adolph Hitler Jones or something.

      • Didn’t they take it to the point of trying to take the peoples kids away from them based on their name choice? that certainly seems extreme. Actually it all seems extreme but damn, naming a kid Tahula huluing in Hawaii, whatever it was or Vagina. The kids certainly gonna suffer needlessly.

  20. Raven won, as I predicted. My prediction had nothing to do with either team and their abilities. I thought the computer that picked the 49’ers would be wrong & I was right in that assumption. In other SB news, the SuperDome’s SmartMeter caused the blackout….

  21. Those of you who try to defend gun owner rights should be aware of comments made by the NRA President at a breakfast seminar with a hostile, mainly journalist audience last week. I watched it on C-Span

    I thought that he was spectacular, taking on all comers in a respectful manner and putting to rest all the BS if one was willing to listen.

    Two things I did not know which should be talking points for our side. the NRA has, in the past, encouraged ATF to set up a booth at Gun Shows and run background checks for non dealer sales. ATF declined. Then, and this I love, he took apart the “fact” that 40% of firearms are not subject to a background check. Turns out that number is based on a 1994 ATF telephone survey of 240 people! Now, that’s scientific! While the NRA number, 4%, may be too low, the 40% is way too high. I would assume that if ATF did in fact show up at gun shows or was mandated to do so, the numbers would go even lower.

    Another interesting thing. In response to a question about allowing “private” background checks from seller to buyer through the National Instant Check system, he responded, “Do you really want your next door neighbor to access your personal information through that system”. I had never thought about that one either.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      SK, Just my opinion, but without 100% registration, which will never happen, Universal background checks are nothing but a fantasy. I conceal carry, my sidearm is not registered anywhere and it will stay that way. Those who want gun control have no idea what they are even talking about and should be blown off like the little flying bugs that they are! 🙂

      • True, but to accomplish that you have to rebut their fallacies, one at a time. You know, just listening to the debate that most folks are unaware felons cannot so much as hold a firearm without breaking 1935 Federal Law, that machine guns are essentially outlawed by the same law, that mail order sales have been banned since the ’60’s and that there are background checks!

        I am not particularly worried about what will come out of DC I am however very worried about what came out of Albany and might come out of Trenton., The folks in Trenton already have forced me, years ago, to move my AR and two M-1 carbines out of state, and I have not shot them in years.

        Every now and then, I will run into a lib who talk about banning guns. Like that will solve a problem. I like to point out that there is this Island in the Caribbean called Jamaica which has worse gun crime than us. They can’t seem to keep guns off an island in the middle of a sea any more than they can keep drugs out of a prison.

  22. PeterB in Indianapolis says:

    Yet another global sea ice update:

    Northern Hemisphere Sea Ice -0.630M km^2
    Southern Hemisphere Sea Ice +0.661M km^2

    Add that up, and you will see that we are now slightly ABOVE NORMAL for total global sea ice.

    And now back to your regularly scheduled whatever.

  23. gmanfortruth says:

    @LOI, I’m gonna work on an article based on that link you emailed me last week. Hope to have it up on Wednesday morning!

    • Great G! Have started compiling info for one I want to see on vet’s. Check it out & hit me with any suggestions..Think I can have it for next week if work co-operates…

  24. gmanfortruth says:

    Colonel, What’s going on down there?

    You know America’s changing when leftists have even infiltrated Texas schools.

    Read more:

  25. Follow up-Now I am more confused than I was before. What exactly is their policy?

    Wounded Warrior Project Apologizes for Rejecting Church Donation

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    Wounded Warrior Project Apologizes for Rejecting Church Donation

    Feb 4, 2013

    By Todd Starnes

    The Wounded Warrior Project has apologized for rejecting donations from a Baptist church and said the incident was “blown out of proportion” even though the organization’s website states that religious donations are not accepted.

    “It was a mistake,” a Wounded Warrior Project spokesperson told Fox News. “We reached out to the church and gave them our sincerest apologies and told them we would welcome their events.”

    Liberty Baptist Church and Academy in Fort Pierce, Fla. had wanted to raise thousands of dollars for the charity. After the group had sent in their $100 fee, Wounded Warrior Project told them that they could not accept their donations because they were a religious group.CHURCH

    The spokesperson said the charity does not have a policy banning religious groups from hosting fundraisers. WWP said the event was rejected because the church would be ‘soliciting funds’ and they would be doing so over an entire month.

    “The truth is – it was a mistake from a junior staff member,” the spokesperson said. “We register religious events on a regular basis and always have.”

    But the Wounded Warrior Project website states: “WWP does not co-brand, create cause marketing campaigns or receive a percentage or a portion of proceeds from companies in which the product or message is sexual, political or religious in nature, or from alcohol or weapons companies.”

    And WWP sent an email to the church telling echoing those claims.

    “We must decline the opportunity to be the beneficiary of your event due to our fundraising event criteria, which doesn’t allow community events to be religious in nature,” the email read.
    The email the church received from Wounded Warrior

    The email the church received from Wounded Warrior

    Wallace Cooley, the pastor of Liberty Baptist Church, told Fox News that a WWP executive called to apologize and acknowledged they did have a policy banning religious groups.

    “I asked them if they were going to change policy and he said they were going to meet this week to discuss their policy,” he said. “He said there had been some concerns about religious leaders asking for money from a congregation and concerns with what they might do with it.”

    The pastor said WWP told them they would be willing to make a exception to their rule if the church was willing to renew their fundraising campaign.

    “I told them I did not want to be an exception if they were not willing to receive from other faith-based institutions,” he told Fox News.

    Cooley said he is disturbed that Wounded Warrior is telling the public one thing and the church another.

    “Now they are talking as if we are lying or misrepresenting and I have the documentation, their emails,” he said. “I do not get the impression they are in favor of faith-based organizations.”

    The pastor addressed the controversy with his congregation on Sunday – urging them to be respectful and “measured in their response – not to do something that would harm the cause of Christ.”

    He also told them they would be looking for another charity to support. The small congregation had been planning to raise as much as $50,000 for the charity.

    “We are not a wealthy congregation,” the pastor said. “But they are generous.”

    The rejection was especially difficult for the 460 children who attend Liberty Baptist Academy.

    “We are second-class citizens now because we are people of faith,” the pastor said. “We are going to find some people who will be more friendly to faith-based organizations.

    As for why Wounded Warrior Project waited three days to respond to the controversy, the spokesperson said “our staff is really busy and travels all the time.”

    “We try to be really truthful and thoughtful in everything we say in media,” the spokesperson said.

  26. You know, I really hate to say this but we’re turning into more of a suggested reading list-than a political blog discussing ideas. 😦

    Don’t know what US did to bring in new people-but we need to figure it out or admit defeat.

    • “…figure it our or admit defeat…”

      Is it too early for me to declare victory then? 🙂

      • I’m gonna assume that you liked talking on this blog-so what exactly are you declaring victory about?

        • gmanfortruth says:

          What would you like to see or do?

          • I don’t know the answer G-I just know people are slowly going away and others or just not talking very much anymore. Maybe we as a group are mostly talked out. Maybe people who like to read but don’t talk need to be encouraged to do so. Maybe we need to put out the blog information on other blogs to guide people here. I don’t know. I just know we seem to be dying a slow death and I for one would hate that to happen.

            • gmanfortruth says:

              That’s understandable. That’s why I’ve asked for suggestions for topics. I can write about economics and how that may be a big problem in the coming months. I can write about ideas for preparing for a small bad event to a huge meg-event that is life threatening. We can talk about what a “new” Federal government and Constitution could look like after we remove these corrupt losers in DC now 🙂 There are lots of ways we can learn from each other and be entertained at the same time. Pick a subject and I’ll work on it 🙂 Hell, even I get tired of bashing Obama.

            • gmanfortruth says:

              How about an article on proper and improper Obama bashing? 🙂

              • Having more articles-would probably help a lot-but it’s a lot of work. And I couldn’t write an article if my life depended on it-well that might be a slight exaggeration-I’d write one- it would just be a bad one 🙂

                Topics-I don’t know-we’ve talked about just about everything at one time or another. But I think the talk we were having about immigration was a good one. And it’s obviously a very complicated one. Less complicated than our political leaders want to make it out to be-but complicated none the less.

                I really enjoyed D13’s articles about the Middle East. I read Israel just had a dust up with Syria.

              • gmanfortruth says:

                I would like more on the ME as well. I’ve been there, but far from knowledgeable. A lot of times I’ll take an article that’s not in the MSM and research more about the same subject, until I have enough to put out an article. Not many folks want to discuss things like the ever growing police state, why I don’t really know. I would think that everyone would be concerned about it and want to be smart on the subject.

              • It’s not that I’m not interested in the ever growing police state-Just seems to be a lot of conspiracy theory without much chance of actually proving it. And I look at the growing power of the government and I kind of take it for Granted that it will take a police state at some point to enforce it. So I guess it’s seems to me to be putting the cart before the horse. And frankly, I think the government has had that power for awhile now. They just haven’t had enough people willing to go along with it. I’m thinking now a pretty good number would.

            • Bottom Line says:

              I am rather curious as to the recent SUFA statistics.

            • Well, that’s how I got there. That sneaky founder of this site would pop into conversations on FOX and invite people over. I have invited friends who drop by to read but don’t join in. Actually lost a good friend last month who was very bright, a great conversationalist and would have been an asset. Invited him over about a year ago. When I was going through his return E-mails to me after he died, I found one I had never opened where he thanked me for steering him here and told me how much he enjoyed it. There are a few left wingers I hesitate to invite because they invariable degenerate into name calling or worse, the worse being that catch all used almost exclusively by the left “Whatever!”. So, maybe it is time to cast nets again. Sneak over to NR on line, Fox, CNN, MSNBC or someone else who posts long threads.

              • That’s how I got here too 🙂 And I too have invited family and friends, they just don’t seem interested or say they are too busy. If they read here they are keeping it to themselves.

                There is one niece I purposely haven’t mentioned it too-I love her and I want that relationship to remain intact. She gets real touchy, real fast, when you disagree with her over politics. And I’m not a angel myself 🙂 So we have decided that politics is for the most part a no-no.

                I normally don’t go on other sites anymore to talk but I guess I could visit one or two. I did bring it up at Huff Post a long time ago but they just deleted the post.

        • I do, but unfortunately work has been taking up more and more of my time. Not to mention the little one at home…

          So, if someone is going to admit defeat, someone else would get to declare victory. And I’d much rather declare victory than admit defeat!

          • 🙂 Well, it is much more important to work and take care of that precious one-but we miss you 🙂 There are some subjects only you and Matt would even talk to me about!

            • Such as?

              • Abortion is the obvious one but there were others-I’ll have to think about it. But I remember bringing up many subjects people didn’t comment on and I would think Matt and Buck would have jumped on that one. 🙂

              • Actually, I put up some articles just to try and draw Matt back into the conversation-but it didn’t work. 😦

  27. Bottom Line says:


    I tried to post a song( 7th son of a 7th son) above and it didn’t work, so I posted it again, and it still didn’t work, so I did it again and it said, “duplicate comment”

    I hate when it does that.

    Why does it do that?

    • Don’t know-I’ve tried to post whole articles-that simply would not post-everything else I tried to post went right on there-but a few just wouldn’t -no matter how many times I tried. I wondered if the problem was with the site I was trying to post from-but who knows.

      • Bottom Line says:

        Oh I know…it is so aggravating. ARGGHHHH!

        I’ve posted the same video before without issue. Maybe it was because it was loading on one page while I was posting the link on SUFA.

        When I posted Bohemian Rhapsody above, it didn’t show up until the next day.

  28. The Unions get “only a 20% raise” and businesses get a price freeze. How the heck can this work out well?

    Argentina freezes prices to break inflation spiral

    Posted: Feb 04, 2013 12:51 PM CST Updated: Feb 04, 2013 12:51 PM CST

    ALMUDENA CALATRAVA, Associated Press

    BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Argentina announced a two-month price freeze on supermarket products Monday in an effort to break spiraling inflation.

    The price freeze applies to every product in all of the nation’s largest supermarkets — a group including Walmart, Carrefour, Coto, Jumbo, Disco and other large chains. The companies’ trade group, representing 70 percent of the Argentine market, reached the accord with Commerce Secretary Guillermo Moreno, the government’s news agency Telam reported.

    The commerce ministry wants consumers to keep receipts and complain to a hotline about any price hikes they see before April 1.

    Polls show Argentines worry most about inflation, which private economists estimate could reach 30 percent this year. The government says it’s trying to hold the next union wage hikes to 20 percent, a figure that suggests how little anyone believes the official index that pegs annual inflation at just 10 percent.

    The government announced the price freeze on the first business day after the International Monetary Fund formally censured Argentina for putting out inaccurate economic data. The IMF has given Argentina until September to bring its statistics up to international standards, or face expulsion from the world body in November.

    President Cristina Fernandez and her economy minister, Hernan Lorenzino, responded over the weekend with a flurry of attacks on the IMF, saying the agency’s data-gathering efforts had lost credibility in the lead-up to Argentina’s historic 2001 debt default. They said IMF advice is leading Europeans astray by favoring big banks over measures that can grow economies out of crisis.

    However, Lorenzino also said that the government will begin using a new inflation index starting in fourth-quarter 2013 — just in time for the IMF’s decision.

    Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.

    Read more:

  29. So what do you guys think about the death of Chris Kyle – “The American Sniper”?

    There haven’t been many details, but it seems strange to me to take someone with PTSD to a shooting range.

    • I think it’s really sad-but I have to agree taking the man to a shooting range seems like a really strange choice.

      • I don’t know what to think. The Colonel has said he also has PTSD. I would have no problem going to the range with him. It must affect people differently.

        • That’s true but from what I’ve read-this man was having an obviously hard time with it-I have to think some other path would have been better-of course hind site is 20/20 but still it seems like a bad call considering that from what I’m read about PTSD some people have bad dreams but with others, certain things can trigger a memory and they think they are actually back in combat.

          Maybe D13 will give us his opinion.

          • gmanfortruth says:

            From my experience with PTSD, it will greatly subside over time. Bad dreams, troubles sleeping and a very keen awareness of my surroundings and noises were all I really dealt with. Many folks get depression, but I don’t think that would lead to a murder rampage. It is very possible he hand another mental illness and was misdiagnosed. Or, as I have written about, was on one of the psychotropic drugs that seem to be a common denominator to a large number of these incidents.

            If I was a betting man, it’s the drugs, not the illness.

            • If you think back to Vietnam, there were news stories all over the place about the danger the vets posed to the public because they were “different”. My Dad said that they were no different than their fathers were. I had two Uncles, one in the 1st ID from North Africa who was in his very late 20’s when drafted. Another was with the 26th ID, also in his late 20’s and we think, a designated sniper (have a photo of him from the war with a 1903A3 when everyone else in his squad had Garands). Both of these guys carried demons around with them all their lives. They posed no danger to anyone other than “blowing up” over stuff that seemed inconsequential. I always thought that that was related more to not wanting to waste very precious time (they knew better than us just how precious it was) over nonsense. They boiled over occasionally and put it away just as fast. So I am with you on the drugs but fat chance we will ever find that out, just like Sandy Hook.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Like you say Todd, not much info to make a decent judgement on the matter. From what I’ve heard, the killer isn’t behaving in jail either. I’m guessing he had more problems than PTSD. Kyle had his issues in life as well, including a strong proponent of arming teachers for schools. It seems that someone just flipped out. That’s been happening more and more as of late, with little info to go on as to the cause of it.

  30. Bottom Line says:

    Re: Superbowl

    How bout that halftime show?

    Beyonce sure looks good in black.


  31. Opening ceremony for the Super Bowl..geez, I had tears watching the Sandy Hook kids singing, then Jennifer Hudson and Alicia Keyes back to back..I really enjoyed that. Then came Beyonce…. 😦

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I agree Anita, the pregame music was great. I’m not fond of halftime shows anyway, I want to watch football, not some broad shake her ass on the screen. Save it for after the game. 😉

    • Bottom Line says:

      I didn’t watch but a few minutes of the game, and only saw highlights of the halftime show. I see your point, Anita, which is a valid concern. But it wasn’t THAT bad. At least she do anything too raunchy…well, not the part of it I watched, anyway.

      I didn’t get to see the kids singing. Something is ‘off’ with the whole Sandy Hook thing. I am careful to not rush to judgement until I can figure out exactly what happened though. I dread the thought of a false flag op combined with an emotional appeal of children singing be used to propagandize support for gun control…like to keep a tragedy fresh in the minds of the people to keep them reminded until laws can be passed.

      ..or maybe I am over-thinking it.

      BTW, Black is representative of freedom and unity, of all colors combined, a concept I can certainly appreciate. A fine woman in black is nice. That’s what I was ambiguously referring to.

      • Dangit! Now you have me on the fence. I didn’t make the connection you did about the kids. I just figured how cool it was for the kids to have something fun and exciting to look forward to and to get their minds off the tragedy. I’m going to just stay in my comfort zone, or denial if you like, and keep my original opinion.

        Beyonce wasn’t THAT bad? uh, I bet you’d feel differently if you had a daughter. What? Is the goal to have our daughters want to dress in very little leather and lace and gyrate in front of the world? I’m not knocking her as a performer. The girl can sing and dance. But there is a time and place for everything, I just don’t think it’s necessary to have that kind of show during a worldwide event. If you want to pay to see that kind of show, go for it.

        • Furthermore! Jennifer Hudson and Alicia Keyes rocked the house too..fully clothed! That is class.

        • Bottom Line says:

          Now you have me rethinking MY position. See how that works. 🙂

          I am probably over-thinking things with regard to the kids…and yeah, maybe yer right about having a daughter. It is something definitely worth considering.

      • Bottom Line says:

        “…At least she do …”

        Ughh, I hate when I do that.

        “…At least she DIDN’T do…

  32. Bottom Line says:

    ” It’s not that I’m not interested in the ever growing police state-Just seems to be a lot of conspiracy theory without much chance of actually proving it. ”


    I will tell you with a bit of confidence that many of those conspiracy theorists out there are on to something rather significant, but are in fact reading things wrong and giving in to their fear of the unknown.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      The late Haile Selassie, religious leader of Ethiopia, said: “Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most, that has made it possible for evil to triumph.”

    • Don’t know how to respond to that remark-It’s like a teaser without the follow through. You seem to feel you shouldn’t speak of some things so I’ll just take it at face value.

      But my other point was that if the government keeps passing more and more laws that control just about everything we do-a Police State is guaranteed. Crap, there going in and destroying businesses right and left, right now. Just wait until after all the new and upcoming regulations are implemented. And don’t even try to convince me Obama’s great election strategy isn’t using information he isn’t supposed to have access too. Or just basically invading people’s privacy and breaking the law. Is that a conspiracy theory or common sense?

      • gmanfortruth says:

        The problem V.H. is that it is inevitable that someone will yell “Conspiracy Theory” and anyone who is afraid to do anything but “conform” to this BS wins. The discussion gets shutdown before it starts. Many CT’s are quite entertaining and are based on a good imagination, but others hold lots of truth.

        Sometimes it may pay to think about being careful about what you “don’t” believe as much as what you do believe. 😉

        • Can’t disagree with that sentiment. You don’t want to get yourself killed don’t abduct anybody, especially children. But if you do, don’t expect me to be too concerned if you end up dead.

      • Bottom Line says:

        ” Don’t know how to respond to that remark-It’s like a teaser without the follow through. You seem to feel you shouldn’t speak of some things so I’ll just take it at face value. ”

        Not only do I feel there may be risk to others involved with divulging things, but it is enormously complex and would require a lot of time and typing.

        I am not even sure where to start. It is just overwhelmingly large in scope. In order to explain anything with any clarity or concision, I would have to explain everything. Even then, many would likely not understand. Perhaps there will come a day when I can spit it all out.

        I am learning that I have something, V. I dunno what exactly, I just know it is powerful…subtle, but powerful.

        I can feel you, you know. I am guessing you have it too. I am guessing a lot of people have it without even realizing it.

        • I have what God gave me and the Holy spirit to guide me. I need nothing else. 🙂

          • Bottom Line says:

            Maybe that’s what it is, or one term for it, anyway.

            Maybe we all have it, but not all have been able to discover it. Maybe it is about accepting or denying it.

  33. gmanfortruth says:

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) appeared on This Week with George Stephanopoulos on Sunday and told him that there just wasn’t enough revenue coming in to avoid the “looming” sequester due to hit on March 1 and that any deal reached between Republicans and Democrats would involve tax hikes. Yes, you heard correctly more tax increases are surely on the way. Reid claims that “the American People” are on his side in this.

    Read more:

    So my friends, are you on his side on this, I damn sure ain’t. 😦

  34. Alabama Hostage Standoff Ends:
    Boy Released, Abductor Dead


    • Can’t disagree with that sentiment. You don’t want to get yourself killed don’t abduct anybody, especially children. But if you do, don’t expect me to be too concerned if you end up dead.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        Another case of someone who may have had a mental illness, and just flipped out. Was he on meds? We may never know. Glad the kid is alive and well! Now, lets watch and see if “all” preppers are shit on by the media. I’ll bet that they will, rather quickly too!

  35. gmanfortruth says:
    • Countercultural Super Bowl Ad Breaks Through


      Bryan Preston

      February 4, 2013 – 6:43 am
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      Last night’s Super Bowl had a little bit of everything. Brother versus brother. The final game of a controversial league legend. Defensive domination. Offensive power. A stunning comeback. A risky checkdown from run to pass on third and short that may have won the game. A controversial non-call at the end. An electrical blackout, or near enough, that stopped the game for 34 minutes and gave the dying 49ers a chance to get up off the mat. They almost took full advantage of that.

      The ads were mostly forgettable. A few were R-rated, a sign that advertisers have either forgotten that families watch the game together, or that they just don’t care that families watch the game together. A few were funny. Several used massive special effects to get their point across.

      And then Dodge shows up with this ad.

      “So God made a farmer” was in every way an act of rebellion against the ethos of Super Bowl ads and against the culture of the big game. While most ads go for a joke, this one goes for a sermon. While most push the effects to the limit, this one uses almost nothing but slides. While most use sex, this one uses hard work. Against the glitz of big time sports, Dodge gave us dirt. Against the beauty of super models, Dodge gave us wrinkles on sun-beaten faces, and a photo of a family at prayer.

      It was the most countercultural ad of the night, on a night when even the MVP QB couldn’t keep it clean.

      And for all of that, it was easily the most perfect and greatest ad of the night.

      Congrats to the Ravens. But thank you, to Dodge. Paul Harvey, for the win.

  36. Study: Global Warming Can Be Slowed By Working Less
    A new analysis suggests that a more ‘European’ schedule would reduce the effects of climate change

    By Jason Koebler
    February 4, 2013 RSS Feed Print

    Want to reduce the effects of global warming? Stop working so hard. Working fewer hours might help slow global warming, according to a new study released Monday by the

    Center for Economic Policy and Research.

    A worldwide switch to a “more European” work schedule, which includes working fewer hours and more vacation time, could prevent as much as half of the expected global temperature rise by 2100, according to the analysis, which used a 2012 study that found shorter work hours could be associated with lower carbon emissions.

    The Center for Economic Policy and Research is a liberal think tank based in Washington.

    “The relationship between [shorter work and lower emissions] is complex and clearly understood, but it is understandable that lowering levels of consumption, holding everything else constant, would reduce greenhouse gas emissions,” writes economist David Rosnick, author of the study. Rosnick says some of that reduction can be attributed to fewer operating hours in factories and other workplaces that consume high levels of energy.

    Rosnick says that as developing countries’ economies grow, they have two choices—they can have a “European” work schedule, or an “American” schedule of little vacation and 40-hour work weeks.

    “There’s a lot of controversy—should the developing world follow an American or European model?,” he says. “If the world were to follow a more European model of work, we would expect fewer hours, less output, and lower emissions of greenhouse gases.”

    Rosnick says a move toward the European system would result in a trade-off of up to one quarter of income gains in exchange for increased leisure time and vacation. His best-case scenario, which predicts prevention of up to a 1.3 degree Celsius temperature increase, assumes that Americans would begin working about 0.5 percent less each year, starting with a 10-hour reduction in 2013. “We can get a similar amount of work done as productivity and technology improves,” he says. “It’s something we have to decide as a country—there are economic models in which individuals get to decide their hours and are still similarly productive as they are now.”

    He admits there are flaws to his analysis—the study didn’t take into consideration the rise of telecommuting, which has and will continue to cut down on transportation emissions, and there is no way to know what a person would do with their increased vacation or leisure time. Working fewer office hours is unlikely to have much of an impact on carbon emissions if a person were to then take a vacation, for example.

    “If people are taking a vacation, that means they’re not commuting, but it might mean they’re taking a plane ride,” he says.

    • Actually the wealthier a nation is the better it will be able to thrive if global warming does occur. What would be difficult to survive/thrive would be an ice age.

      • If I believed global warming was a huge problem-I could come up with many ways to slow it down. That is the problem I have with this study it is based solely on the global warming effect and doesn’t even raise the question of how it would economically effect people.

        I think the question of can we as a society cut our work hours a little and still be productive enough to promote growth and maintain our standard of living-an interesting one-would love to have a 4 day week 🙂

  37. My daughter’s friend was just telling me that she just had her taxes prepared for 2012. The tax agent asked her if she had health insurance, she did. Her parents are not insured so she asked the agent why he asked about it. I guess the fine is effective for 2012. Not insured? Pay the fine. I didn’t think that was happening until 2014!???

    • I didn’t think it was either or maybe 2013-but even if it starts now-why would it effect ones 2012 tax return?

      • Oh wait, I remember much discussion that the cost were going to start several years before the so-called benefits. It order to create the illusion that Obamacare would actually pay for its self.

    • The requirement/fine starts in 2014. Someone isn’t being honest here.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        My Son is now working for an accounting firm. He tells me some of the fines, taxes, etc are “retro active” to 2012. This is not so much Obama Care but the recent Tax bill passed to halt the “cliff”.

        IRS has not sent me the 2012 forms yet because they still have not printed them all. Because they won’t have the 2012 RULES done until the end of January. All due to the Cliff Deal legislation.

        One of the rules was over the limit to expensing Depreciation.

      • Bottom Line says:

        ” The requirement/fine starts in 2014.”

        I find myself rather annoyed by your use of the word “requirement”

        There is no such requirement. Nope, just some assholes thinking they have a right to tell people what to do because of some bullshit written on paper.


        • just some assholes thinking they have a right to tell people what to do because of some bullshit written on paper.

          Any chance you’ll ever grow-up, act like an adult, and realize this is the definition of “society”?

          • Bottom Line says:

            ” Any chance you’ll ever grow-up, act like an adult, and realize this is the definition of “society”? ”


            I hardly consider violating others as ‘mature’.

            Any chance that you will ever understand the principles of free will, and basic human rights?

            What gives you or anyone the right to force another to do as you say? Paper and ink? Can you come up with something better?

            Is there any chance you will stop confusing coercion and force with the concept of being civilized?

            Is there any chance that you will ever understand the fundamental difference between right/wrong?

            Is there any chance you will ever present something other than a straw man argument to demonstrate your point?

            Is there ever a chance that you will learn to actually formulate a legitimate logical argument instead of resorting to personal insults?

            • gmanfortruth says:

              BL, Liberals and logic don’t mix. It would force a biological terrorism attack as their heads would explode covering vast parts of our cities in feces. 😆

              • Bottom Line says:

                ” Liberals and logic don’t mix.”

                Not to necessarily be critical, but I think there is quite a bit of truth to that statement.

                I have mentioned the Myers/Briggs type indicator test a couple of times here. Again, I will recommend that everyone take it as it is a rather useful test with regard to understanding the orientation of your particular thought process.

                I am an INTJ. The T stands for thinking. I am a naturally logical kinda guy with a score of anywhere between 85-95% on thinking. I am a thinker.

                Many people are more oriented toward feeling instead. If I were to guess, where mine has a T, his will likely have an F, …which is just as useful and important.

                Where I would be better suited for something like engineering, he(and many liberals) are better suited for things like counseling. Society needs both/all of the above.(there are 16 types)

                The problem is when feelers get into positions of thinking, or thinkers try to be sensitive. It is not to say that we are incapable of the other, just that it isn’t exactly our strong suit.

                If you have a puzzle to solve, ask me,…if you need a friend to talk to, ask Todd. He will likely make you feel better about a situation where I will give you some logical answer to an emotional issue…and visa versa.

                We all have our strengths and weaknesses. The trick is to find a place where we are best suited and happy to have a suitable outlet for our unique talents/strengths.

                just sayin’

              • gmanfortruth says:

                I’m not good at dealing with emotional people, but I am patient and listen very well. I can usually pick out the real problem that has enacted the emotional response and focus on that. That is when dealing with someone close to me as one would expect.

                On here I like to use a form of comedy, generally at a group of people (liberals) vs. tell the Todd’s of the world some emotionally charged tirade based on one of their senseless personal attacks that serve no one. With comedy, I can venture away from the emotional stuff and explain a logical ending to a fantasy event 😆

              • Bottom Line says:


                My guess is that you are an INTP, or something real close to it…which is very similar to an INTJ.

                INTJ’s are expansive big picture thinkers, while INTP’s are equally expansive, but more towards the finite.

                INTJ’s see how things come together as a whole, while INTP’s will get lost in the details.

                Both are capable of functioning like the other, just not as well, but tend to work well together.

                INTJ’s will tend to come up with the most efficient answer relative to why, while INTP’s will have an in depth understanding of how.

                A good description is while INTP’s will do things like design cars, dealing with things like gear ratios, fuel efficiency, aerodynamics, torque, etc…

                INTJ’s will design the freeway system, dealing with traffic flow, gradients, proximity to airports, gas station locations, rest stop locations, etc..

                You should take it, for real.

                BTW, Einstein was an INTP.

              • gmanfortruth says:

                That’s pretty close BL 🙂 I like to build useful things. I built a deer hauling cart out of a heavy persons wheelchair. Cut off the handles, put them in front at a 45 degree angle, added an extra seat in the back using conduit and PVC to distribute the weight equally of a field dressed deer. It has worked perfectly for several years now 🙂

              • Bottom Line,

                Where I would be better suited for something like engineering, he(and many liberals) are better suited for things like counseling.

                You analysis fails reality. If you are better suited for something like engineering, then why aren’t you an engineer? You think I’m better suited for things like counseling, when in reality I’m a Principle Software Architect who makes his living solving problems.

                Care to try again?

            • Oh yeah, cause you’re all about free will and basic human rights, right? Except when it affects you. Then you’re happy to use “paper & ink” to enforce some imaginary line in the sand to define who can move where and compete with you for painting jobs.

              If you want to pretend to be all high-and-mighty, you need to be more consistent.

              • Bottom Line says:


                You obviously haven’t been paying close enough attention to notice that not only have I publicly admitted to being wrong about immigration issues, but have taken a stance that is a COMPLETE REVERSAL of my original position, …adamantly arguing at length in favor of no borders whatsoever…here and elsewhere..

                As for the Myers/Briggs thing, I was simply pointing out differences in the way people think in response to G. If you care to re-read the above post you will notice that. Don’t take it as a cut or an attempt to claim superiority, because it was simply not intended as such.

                Over the last several years here at SUFA, I’ve taken notice of your sensitive ego and ability to understand things in the realm of human compassion. To be honest, I wish I were as capable.

                And just because we are better suited at one thing or another doesn’t necessarily mean that it is where we end up, which, I may argue, is a major inefficiency within modern society.

                Now, would you like to drop the straw-man tactic and get back to the original premise with regard to human rights, or just drop it altogether?

    • There is a new box on the W2 that shows the cost of insurance paid by the employer. One can only guess why. I would suspect that insurance premiums will become taxable income at some point. That’s how you make the system less costly.:)

    • Our government believes in:


      something that deceives by producing a false or misleading impression of reality.
      the state or condition of being deceived
      an instance of being deceived.
      Psychology . a perception, as of visual stimuli (optical illusion) that represents what is perceived in a way different from the way it is in reality.

  38. I have a question-What is the reasoning behind having a base cut off on salary when paying into social security?

    I know there isn’t one with medicare.

    • Are you referring to the approx. $110K salary cap on SS? If so it is because the system was sold as a quasi-insurance plan with a limit on the maximum benefit. Part of the original sales pitch was that since payments were capped so was the tax. Now of course the there are arguments to remove the tax cap and means test the payment. Thus SS becomes a welfare program. As with all Ponzi schemes, there is an end point. Had we privatized the excess payments starting in 1984, we would all have nice cash balances in our IRAs. Instead the government spent the money.

  39. Just A Citizen says:

    At Huff Po this morning the trolls were chastising some “religious” group for criticizing the half time show Sunday. The usual, summed up with Leave it to Beaver is DEAD. You know, society has changed, we stupid ass people living in the dark ages need to grow up.

    Apparently they forgot to check in at MSNBC for their talking points. Because they are featuring this story:

    Most folks at the part where I was were DISGUSTED with the Beyonce Erotica Show. Even Lil JAC said, “that isn’t right” and got up and left the room. Even the geek kissing the Go Daddy girls only got an “ewww” but he didn’t get up and leave. So, I’ll call that the Autism Speaks moment of the game.

    The Farmers/Ram Truck commercial was the ONLY time the room got quiet, except for the National Anthem. Even though it took about 1/3 of the way into Paul Harvey’s comments for the last two people to shut the hell up. There were even a few tears forming just before the last slide.

    One more note, every woman in the place had tears in their eyes within seconds of the TV monitor showing the title Sandyhook Elementary Students on the screen shortly after they started singing. In other words, it got EXACTLY the affect wanted by those who decided to put them in the pre-game show.

    One more PS; I am surprised they gave the MVP of the BLACK BOWL to the white QB.

    • That’s the problem- most libs. and some on the right- Do not live what they preach. I know they think they are talking about freedom to do as you please but in so many instances it isn’t about things being outlawed. It’s about social norms. If we have decent social norms-laws really aren’t necessary for most things.

    • It was a very black superbowl, wasn’t it?

      Sandy Hook kids singing? What a subtle (or not) political move. If I’d dare say that anywhere but a blog here, people would be quick to call me “mean” (or worse). That was the whole point in having them be there – no backlash is appropriate, but the message is there. Would not be surprised if the suggestion to invite them came directly from DC. Part of the gun control PR tour that is currently going on.

      Farmer commercial was by far the best, but what occurred to me as I was watching it, was how many from the cities wouldn’t even be able to relate and/or understand the message. I also like the Tide commercial for just plain fun. Except that my husband and I follow the same teams, it is something I could see happening in our house!!!

      So glad we do not have to hear from Ray Lewis and his posse anymore. I know USWeapon LOVES him and on FB even thanked him for his leadership (????), but give me a break. Saw a post on FB regarding him: “Ironic how Lewis has found God but was unable to find the suit he wore when he murdered two people.”

    • So what’s the BLACK BOWL reference?

      • Are you really looking for a racial issue? Is the word black now unsuitable for use? The Blackout, the blackout, the 30 plus minutes of darkness caused by not replacing storm damaged electrical feeders because Ray Nagin was too busy shaking down contractors!

        • Just A Citizen says:


          That was only PART of the reason for my comment.

          But the blackout couldn’t have been more fitting.

        • Are you really looking for a racial issue? Is the word black now unsuitable for use?

          No, I was just asking for an explanation. But it seems you think it has some racial undertones? If not, why would it be a surprise that they gave the MVP of the BLACK BOWL to the white QB?

          The Blackout, the blackout, the 30 plus minutes of darkness caused by not replacing storm damaged electrical feeders because Ray Nagin was too busy shaking down contractors!

          Nothing “racial” about that statement, huh???

  40. I know people are a little tired of discussions of gun control-but wow, I knew the New York law was bad but it’s worse than I thought. And I find the fact that they choice 7 as the legal number of bullets allowed-when from this article almost all guns use more than 7-as a case for an intentional harrassment charge.

    February 5, 2013
    New York’s ‘SAFE’ Act: The ‘Rape’ of the Second Amendment
    By Michael Filozof

    In January, the New York State Legislature passed the Orwellian-sounding “SAFE” (Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement) Act. The act was debated in closed session without committee hearings, and Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed it into law within an hour of its passage — after waiving the required three-day public comment period. Cuomo bragged that New York now has the “toughest assault weapons ban” in the country but claimed that the law respects the Second Amendment and preserves the rights of “hunters and sportsmen.” The former is true; the latter is a bald-faced lie. Even if you do not live in New York, you should be very worried, because the SAFE Act is a harbinger of what Democrats in the federal government will do nationwide if they can.

    The SAFE Act is far worse than you might imagine. Harold “Budd” Schroeder, member of the NRA Board of Directors from New York, described the law as “the rape of our gun rights.” That is no exaggeration. The law is as harsh as (or harsher than) the gun laws of some European nations that do not have a Bill or Rights or a Second Amendment.

    The most widely reported provision of the law is the total ban on the sale of military-style rifles classified as “assault weapons,” effective Jan. 15. The provision forever prohibits anyone other than a law enforcement agency from acquiring such weapons, including the popular hunting and target variants of the AR-15 rifle. Current owners of such rifles must register them with the state by 2014, and the registration must be renewed every five years. This gives the state a list of persons from which to confiscate them in the future, and the five-year renewal provision gives the state an excuse to find ways to deny ownership once every five years. Current owners of such rifles may never sell them to another New York State resident in the future.

    Shockingly enough, in many ways the “assault weapons ban” is actually one of the statute’s lesser infringements on the Second Amendment. The statute criminalizes, potentially criminalizes, or places under state surveillance even the most innocuous, banal, and pedestrian forms of gun ownership, and it restricts the right of self-defense.

    The new law prohibits the sale of any quantity of ammunition by anyone other than a licensed dealer and requires that such dealer perform a criminal background check on the purchaser and forward the purchaser’s name, address, age, and occupation, and the quantity, caliber, and make of the ammunition, to a State Police database. Thus, the ammunition database creates a de facto universal long gun registry. A hunter who purchases a box of five 12-gauge deer slugs may think that his purchase is innocent enough; however, it will have the effect of informing the State Police that he owns a 12-gauge shotgun, enabling them to confiscate it in the future if they so choose.

    The purchase of large quantities of ammunition will likely set off alarm bells at State Police headquarters. But what is truly sinister about the ammunition registry is that no one actually knows “how much” will be deemed “too much” — because the law does not prohibit the purchase or ownership of any specific quantity of ammunition. Thus, one may become the target of a police investigation for engaging in a perfectly legal activity. Since many gun owners have vowed to defy the “assault weapons” registration, it is highly likely that the State Police will use the ammunition database as a means to discover and confiscate unregistered rifles.

    The ammunition registration is crucial to the law’s confiscation scheme. The law affirmatively requires that a person’s firearms must be confiscated if any order of protection is filed against him — no matter how bogus the complaint may be. It also requires that a “mental health professional” (including a physician) who believes that an individual is a danger to himself or others must report his diagnosis to the police for purposes of firearm confiscation. Such a diagnosis is highly subjective and could be easily politicized. (For instance, in the 1964 presidential campaign, a group of psychiatrists “diagnosed” conservative Sen. Barry Goldwater as insane.) But the law exempts such “professionals” from civil liability; thus, any “mental health professional” who believes that all gun owners are “nuts” could initiate the confiscation of a person’s firearms, and the gun owner is forbidden to file a civil suit to challenge the “diagnosis.”

    The SAFE Act also severely infringes on the right of self-defense from criminal predation. Although Article 35 of New York Penal law allows the use of deadly force in the event of a home invasion, the SAFE Act restricts the ammunition capacity of all centerfire guns to seven rounds. If you possess a magazine loaded with more than seven rounds in your own home, you are guilty of a criminal offense.

    So suppose a criminal with a stolen handgun and an illegal 15-round magazine invades your home. If you shoot at him with more than eight rounds (seven plus one in the chamber), you will be criminally charged, and your magazine (and possibly your firearm) will be confiscated and destroyed without compensation, because you have now used it in the commission of a crime. Beyond that, since a handgun permit in New York is not merely a permit to carry, but a permit to possess, after you have been charged with the crime of shooting at the home invader with a high-capacity magazine, your permit will be revoked, and all of your handguns will be confiscated.

    The seven-round magazine limit effectively bans or severely restricts the use of perhaps 75% of the firearms designed in the past 100 years. Seven-round magazines simply do not exist for common firearms such as the 13-shot Browning Hi-Power pistol, first manufactured in 1935, or the 10-shot Ruger 10/22 rifle, five million of which have been manufactured since the 1960s. The M-1 “Garand” rifle, adopted by the U.S. Army in 1936, was designed exclusively to use an eight-round “clip,” which will now be considered an illegal “high capacity ammunition feeding device.” Although the Act “grandfathers” existing ten-round magazines, it forbids owners to put more than seven rounds in them, and it requires lawful owners of magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds to sell them out of state, surrender them, or destroy them. This is clearly an unconstitutional deprivation of private property, in violation of the Fifth Amendment.

    The law also prohibits the private “sale” or “exchange” of any firearm to any person unless a licensed dealer performs the “sale” and a background check. The politically correct law exempts parents, spouses, children, stepchildren and “domestic partners.” Thus, the divorced Cuomo may legally give his live-in girlfriend Sandra Lee a firearm without a dealer transfer and background check, but if a serial rapist and murderer (such as the notorious “Bike Path Rapist” Altemio Sanchez , who terrorized women for three decades while the cops put the wrong guy in prison) is on the loose, you may not give a shotgun to your sister for self-protection. You may give your live-in gay lover a firearm, but you may not give your brother or nephew a .22 rifle on Christmas Eve. The law does not clarify how long someone must be in possession of a firearm before such possession is understood to be an “exchange”; thus, it is possible that lending a rifle to your brother-in-law for deer season without a dealer transfer and a background check could be construed as an illegal “exchange.” You would then be a criminal, and the gun used in the “crime” could be confiscated and destroyed.

    Finally, the SAFE Act requires that gun owners report any “loss or theft” of a firearm or ammunition to the police within 24 hours. Failure to do so is a criminal offense. Read literally, a deer hunter in Saranac Lake who drops a single 12-gauge slug in the snow and cannot find it is a criminal unless he reports the loss to the police.

    The New York SAFE Act is one of the most breathtakingly brazen assaults on the Constitution and on individual liberty in the history of the United States. Cuomo has gleefully thumbed his nose at the Supreme Court’s Heller and McDonald decisions in 2008 and 2010 affirming the right to keep and bear arms. The intent of the law is to suppress and criminalize the common use of firearms, including guns not defined as “assault weapons.”

    The SAFE Act must be resisted on all levels. I urge firearm manufacturers, like Remington and Kimber, to leave New York State as soon as possible and stop paying taxes to a government that seeks to suppress the right to own their products. Firearms wholesalers and police supply outfits should boycott New York State law enforcement agencies. Gun manufacturers should refuse sales and warranty service to police agencies in the state. I strongly counsel residents of other states who value liberty to avoid New York at all costs. Avoid tourist trips to New York City; the law has made a mockery of the Statue of “Liberty.” Residents of other states should avoid moving to New York under all but the most dire circumstances, and New York residents should begin making plans to leave as soon as possible.

    New York has the highest taxes in the nation. Twenty-five percent of the population is on Medicaid. It has the highest rate of union membership in the nation. It is ranked as the least “business-friendly” state in the country. There is nothing to be gained in New York (unless you are on welfare). Nothing.

    Above all else, remember that even if you do not live in New York, you cannot be complacent. The gun-banners are coming after you next.

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    • gmanfortruth says:

      Ya gotta love the Liberal knee jerk minds in politics 🙄 If the gun -banners are coming here, well, they should think real hard first, we are training a small army of skunks, to deal with….the skunks 😆

      • Bottom Line says:

        Marijuana growers drill holes in the tails of rattlesnakes and tether them to the stalks of their plants. They also string up fishing line with hooks every few inches and place them in paths and around their crops. They dig holes and insert sharp sticks, dip them in feces and cover the holes with twigs and grass and leaves and such.

        Government comes through with expensive equipment, fall into holes and get nasty infections, get hooked when they ride their ATV’s and horses into grow areas, and get bitten by rattlesnakes when they try to uproot the plants.

        Find a way to get a skunk into a barracks housing 300 airmen. What happens?

        The skunk will likely hide somewhere until discovered. Then what happens?

        It sprays. Then what happens?

        The one that discovers it is temporarily out of commission. And the whole building has an intolerable stench. Then what?

        300 men have to find another place to live until it is cleaned and tolerable. They have to take the time to pack and move their gear, set up tents somewhere on the base, use showers and toilets of other barracks or build latrines, etc..

        It throws their whole schedule out of whack for a week or more. Air patrols are decreased in frequency/effectiveness. This allows a better opportunity to set explosives on a crucial bridge or to damage train tracks. Then what?

        Now they have to find another way to cross a river, which takes more time and fuel. And the train carrying supplies derails. Then what?

        Now they have to find another means of a supply line. Likely they will use cargo planes, which takes away from elsewhere. Everyone has to use less until things are back to normal(if you give them the chance)

        Because they had to go out of their way to cross another bridge, they were subject to an ambush and are slow in moving thus enabling a rebel front to advance, etc etc etc…

        …all because of a well coordinated use of a welding torch, a few dozen well placed pipe bombs and a small stinky animal.

        Meanwhile, near the other base…

        A very attractive young ‘lady’ with gonorrhea is picking up men at the local hangout and sneaking into the barracks to have sex with a/some soon to be agonizing young man/men with what seems like fire shooting out of his/their penis[es].

        While she is there, she is carrying around a small squirt bottle spraying door handles and stair railings with a nasty concoction of influenza. Influenza that was made simply by having one of your sick men spit into a coffee pot with an egg white and water and kept warm long enough for it to multiply.

        Then what happens?

        300 men are incapacitated for at least a week or two, thus causing etc etc etc…

        The point:

        A well organized, multifaceted, relatively simple and inexpensive asymmetrical means of attrition can effectively incapacitate an otherwise deadly and effective military force.

        They are set up and anticipating conventional warfare. Radar and guns and aircraft, etc. are ineffective against viral attacks and silly shit like skunks.

        Sure, go ahead and snipe the general, and give the other four the clap.

        Don’t try to sneak past the sentry, allow a woman to use him to give the rest of them the flu.


  41. “Rep. Conyers: They’re not ‘illegal immigrants,’ they’re ‘out of status’ Americans”

    The leftists are so good at word changes.

    • Oy vey, and with that eye rolling BS making me crazy 🙂 I must go and try to do some actual work.

  42. gmanfortruth says:

    Seriously, why do we continue to let these politically correct morons work in our schools?

  43. Anti-drone legislation! Yes! This is what Gov. Walker needs to work on. (Besides Voter ID, Eliminate same-day voter registration, Right to work, Mining Bill, etc.).

    Did you ever think we’d get to this point – where states need to protect themselves from the Federal government with Anti-Drone legislation? So sad.

  44. gmanfortruth says:

    It seems there is more to this story than meets the eye.

  45. From the desk of Cyndi P. Hey Buck! How about you walk us through this monstrosity and justify it in the end.

    Obamacare: A Deception

    Not your average prisonplanet article. Spells things out in detail. We. Are.So. Screwed 👿

    • gmanfortruth says:

      CP sent it to me as well. Too much to do an article, but maybe I can do something with it for Monday, what do ya think?

  46. gmanfortruth says:

    For the Global Warming crowd who were crying about the Polar Bears dying off, you have been LIED too! Please wake up!

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Or maybe those of us who see the LIES for what they are, LIES, need to “Grow up” 🙄

      • Bottom Line says:

        I think you’ll like this one, G


        • gmanfortruth says:

          ROFLMAO!!!!! Oh did that need to be said! 😆

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Good lord, I’m glad nobody was standing near when I turned that on.

          Love it……………. “Thank you and good night.” That was funnier than the rant itself.

          • From several rooms away in our quiet house I hear “What are you listening to Mom?” 🙂

            • gmanfortruth says:

              While this is just a statement, I’m collecting links to show what is really going on in our cities. The violence is real and sickening. In time, in time!

  47. gmanfortruth says:

    I’m pretty good with my old Whitetail II compound bow, but this guy is amazing!

  48. gmanfortruth says:

    Police State 2013! Make sure you have your papers ready! This is minor, wait till tomorrow.

  49. “grin” I really like this song

  50. Just A Citizen says:

    First thing that comes to mind is what authority does the Administration have to tell the local school districts what they have to do about accommodating special needs athletes.

    This is a significant change of well established law and regulations.

  51. So let me drop in and see what some a’yous think about this Justice Department (I think it’s them) attempt to block the Belgian company that now owns Budweiser from buying Corona and monopolizing the beer market. Should they (Belgian company) be allowed to bury the craft beer makers and take complete control of the market or should the government stop them? (Like I don’t know what most of yous will say …:)

    Let’s not get into the fact the “investors” of the Belgian company reap the bulk of the profits while the people who actually “Make” the beer “earn” a salary. 🙂

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Hey Charlie, how is the schooling coming along? Well, I hope. Pass on my best wishes to the family as well 🙂

      I’m against what the govt did. One, I don’t think it would do anything to the market. Any benefits, like overall lower prices, would be erased as the dollar is devalued. I don’t drink either brand on a regular basis. I like a smaller New York company named Gennesee. Tastes great with less alcohol content than the higher priced brands.

      It don’t think we need any Govt intervention in business at all, including the stupid taxes that have killed most of our industries. Let the people decide what they want. If you want to support local companies, drink local beer. It’s that simple. Govt has once again provided for an illusion that we the people need them to survive. They will soon learn that we don’t. Just don’t tell them, we want it to be a big surprise 🙂

      • I have limited knowledge here but once there was a time when the big producers went after the smaller ones. Known as the “beer wars” the huge national brands undersold the smaller companies and drove them either out of business or into forced sales. Smaller breweries, and local brews here in NY and the East coast which were huge local sellers and frankly tasted pretty good all died off. Back today as limited production runs, they are overpriced and just don’t taste the way I remember, Rheingold, Schaeffer, Ballantine, Schlitz, Pabst. The loss of Carling Black Label was no great loss. Frankly, the fact that the # 1 domestic is Bud Light and the # 1 imported is Corona, shows just how poorly Americans appreciate good beer. Both frankly taste like…., well, I just can’t say it so I’ll equate it to the liquid human excrement.

        The Yuengling people in PA, still a family held company, have really bucked the trend. Producers of a variety of beers for a very long time, their decision to expand was nothing short of brilliant. Many New Yorkers, forever seeking the next “trend” mistook a good local PA brew for a “craft”. Good for Yuengling!

        I too am partial to Genessee upon occasion, (hot summer days for example) but if you really want to try something interesting, try “Presidente”, a Dominican made beer. My workers used to bring me bottles before it was regularly imported (along with Cuban cigars) and the taste of the Dominican brewed and bottled took my tastebuds back to the ’50’s. Lately is is bottled here and I suspect purified a lot more but it still, hands down beats most other brews for good taste. Most of my Dominican guys preferred Heineken because Presidente is nothing big in Santo Domingo but to me it was a revelation. Unfortunately for a common Dominican beer, it has “import” prices.

        As to European brews, most are too hoppy for my taste but DAB is, as my Dad the bartender used to say, perhaps the best imported German brew in the US. Lowenbrau is coming back into vogue since the 40 year deal with Miller is over and they are now importing the real thing again. Since the late ’60’s it was Miller in a different bottle at a 150% premium price.

        Yes, Inbev, the Belgian brewer who bought Anheuser-Busch is quite capable of wiping out everyone else by simply underpricing for a few years. They have already demonstrated in the past they are a monopoly.

        A word from my dad which always served me well. When traveling go for the local brew. Most times you will be pleasantly surprised.

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