Troubling Times Ahead?

There sure is a lot of things going on in the world, it’s hard to keep up with it all sometimes. Natural events like snowstorms, tornado’s, earthquakes, volcano’s and meteors to man made events like North Korea spouting off at the mouth, Syrian rebels using chemical weapons, strange economic solutions in Cyprus and Fukashima still spewing radioactive garbage into the air. One has to stay very busy to keep up with it all. There have also been many questions concerning the actions of our own government. Why does the DHS need all the firepower they are buying? Are drones a good idea over U.S. soil? Why are some states passing gun laws that are only going to be challenged in court, costing taxpayers millions?

At 7:02 am est, we welcomed Spring with a big hooray!  Then I looked outside to the blanket of snow  🙄  Bummer!  We will all keep moving ahead with whatever plans we have, just don’t slip on the ice!

Let’s start trying to find answers to the many questions that are out there.  It’s an increasingly crazy world, that may require increasingly difficult actions.


  1. gmanfortruth says:

    charlieopera says:
    March 20, 2013 at 7:24 am • Edit

    I’m with Stephen on this one. Wall Street (and big law firms/banks) is a school and connection first requirement (which is one reason minorities are so poorly represented–absolute racism). The so-called merit system … all that hard work will find you success is a crock of shit. And if you go back to the golden years of the “American Dream” friends, you’ll have to recognize the fact that while union jobs were a great benefit to the middle class, they were also handled like Wall Street, except it had everything to do with connections (who you knew, who in your family was a union member, etc.) … and minorities back then received the same treatment they do on Wall Street today. Those are facts of our “American Dream” many hear refuse to acknowledge … which makes many hear as credible as G’s wild and crazy conspiracy theories 🙂

    I brought this forward. Ok Charlie, let’s say your right, what is the solution to this problem?

    • It certainly isn’t keeping the same system in place … duh! 🙂

      • gmanfortruth says:

        And it certainly isn’t replacing it with a system that is a proven failure (Socialism/Communism) Let’s go from there. And Double Duh back to ya 🙂

      • gmanfortruth says:

        all that hard work will find you success is a crock of shit.

        Charlie, how bad do you want me to prove you wrong?

      • Charlie, he didn’t ask what isn’t he ask what IS the solution. Do you have one to offer?

        • gmanfortruth says:

          FLP, You’ll just confuse him with facts 😆

          • You guys get run over by facts 200 x’s a day and ignore them 🙂

            I’ve stated my positions here way too many times to go through them again. G’s head is made of stone. FL, you seem willing to listen, but I’m not sure how much … trust me, I’m not that far off from you (except on economic policy–I don’t believe capitalism has done the most good for the most people–I look at its corollary effects (those it has exploited here and in the third world so our corn was once $.19 a can) … perhaps a hybrid “might” work, but leaving it as is … well, you see where we’re headed, right?

            • Charlie, you mistake what we have in America for capitalism. America is at best crony-capitalism and more realisticly a soft socialism. Capitalism in America died with FDR’s New Deal.

              One other mistake you make with capitalism is to think that it calls for no government intervention, that would be anarchy. Capitalism relies on a government to enforce contracts and to prosacute those that cheat the system.

              It is simple: Government corrupted capitalism in America, government can not be the solution to fix the problem it created. If we reduce government to what it is ment to be then capitalism can come back and bring prosperity for all with it.

              side note: prosperity for all does not mean all will experiance the same level of prosperity. In capitalism, you will experiance the prosperity you earn.

              • You’re close, but no cigar. Capitalism (those enriched via capitalism) corrupted government … government is made up of people (not just a theory) … you can’t corrupt a theory … you can only corrupt people …

                And you’re version of capitalism is much closer to mine than it is to many in SUFA … yes, anarchy is absurd (can’t happen) but neither can a truly “free market” happen, not without wholesale abuse by those with the means to corrupt.

                I don’t have a problem with some being more prosperous than others but I have a HUGE problem with the level of disparity we have today (that grows by the minute). How could this country possibly have an equitable government when 1% controls so much? It can’t.

            • Just A Citizen says:


              It is the Govt that corrupts.

              Gov is the ultimate POWER.

              It is POWER that corrupts people, not people who corrupt power.

              It has always been that way and will always be that way.

              • And what constitutes power in America, geniuse? Money … who has the money, the power or the people? Money = power = Corruption.

                Try putting that in your pipe 🙂

              • Charlie, that is a definitive statement that starts with a false premise. Money does not always lead to power. Money can and is used to acheive positive results. It is the LOVE of money that is the root of evil, not the money itself.

                Now the power weilded by politicians in Washington that corrupts the most and it affects the most number of people. If we reduce the power in Washington we reduce the desire to control that power.

                Unfortunatly for the left, you think that you can use the corrupted power in Washington to fix the woes of the country, when it is that same power that is causing much of those woes. It is like saying you should shoot yourself in the right leg to fix the bullet wound in you left leg.

    • “which is one reason minorities are so poorly represented–absolute racism).” Bull shit. The mere appearance of impropriety does not mean that there is……..institutionalized racism is dead and gone. To jump on a band wagon and claim racism just because there are few or none…does not make it so. The real racists are the ones continuing to claim there is racism.

      G man….my article is in pending and has been. I am ready to argue with people that racism is a buzz word today and it does not exist as it did in the past ……except in the minds of those that wish to perpetuate the past.

  2. gmanfortruth says:
  3. This is more troubling than anything and I am glad this person had the balls to stand up and fight. This is what the left wants……..they claim that Bush violated rights and privileges but see nothing wrong with non warranted raids in the middle of the night and an inventory of this man’s weapons. The child was even licensed and how they get child abuse from a smiling kid holding his .22 dressed in cammo is beyond me….but this is the Progressive left and this is Gestapo. (Now, on the other hand….posting anything on Face book is asking for trouble.)

    “New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle.

    “Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.”

    Moore was not arrested or charged.

    A Dept. of Children and Families spokesperson told Fox News they could not confirm or deny an investigation or raid had taken place due to government regulations.

    “The department has a child abuse hotline for the state of New Jersey and anybody can make a call to that hotline,” spokesperson Kristen Brown said. “We are required to follow up on every single allegation that comes into the central registry.”

    Moore, of Carneys Point, is a certified firearms instructor for the National Rifle Association, an NRA range safety officer and a New Jersey hunter education instructor.

    He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.

    “If you look at the picture, his finger isn’t even on the trigger – which is proper,” Nappen told Fox News. “If half of Hollywood could follow that rule we’d be thankful.”

    Brown said their role is not to go out and search Facebook for photos of children holding weapons.

    “In general our role is to investigate allegations of child abuse and neglect,” she said.

    The family’s trouble started Saturday night when Moore received an urgent text message from his wife. The Carneys Point Police Dept. and the New Jersey Dept. of Children and Families had raided their home.

    Moore immediately called Nappen and rushed home to find officers demanding to check his guns and his gun safe.

    Instead, he handed the cell phone to one of the officers – so they could speak with Nappen.

    “If you have a warrant, you’re coming in,” Nappen told the officers. “If you don’t, then you’re not. That’s what privacy is all about.”

    With his attorney on speaker phone, Moore instructed the officers to leave his home.

    “I was told I was being unreasonable and that I was acting suspicious because I wouldn’t open my safe,” Moore wrote on the Delaware Open Carry website. “They told me they were going to get a search warrant. I told them to go ahead.”

    Nappen told Fox News the police wanted to inventory his firearms.

    “”We said no way, it’s not happening,” he said. “This is a guy who is completely credentialed and his son is also credentialed.”

    The attorney said police eventually left and never returned.

    “He has a Fourth Amendment right and he’s not going to give up his Fourth Amendment right or his Second Amendment right,” he said. “They didn’t have a warrant – so see you later.”

    Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”

    “In many cases we may follow up on something and we don’t find any problems and the case is closed,” she said.

    But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable, she noted.

    “You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse –even if it’s false,” she said.

    Nappen said what happened to the Moore family should serve as a warning to gun owners across the nation.

    “To make someone go through this because he posted a picture of his son with a .22 rifle on his Facebook page is pretty outrageous,” he said. “Does that mean that anyone who posts a picture like that has to consent to a home inspection and a gun inspection? I don’t think so.”

    Nappen said they are considering taking legal action against the state for the late night raid.

    • They have no problem calling our children terrorists for saying bang or making anything which resembles a gun even if it’s just a pop tart. A kid actually holding a gun-I wouldn’t have been surprised, outraged but not surprised, if they had arrested the kid and his family and carted them off to jail!

      • gmanfortruth says:

        This is a sad story. What has our country become when we read about things like this? This isn’t freedom, this is just one more reason to stand our ground and tell the government to stick it!

  4. Now, I can take Charlie’s viewpoint here on this story……

    “The Romeike family fled their German homeland in 2008 seeking political asylum in the United States – where they hoped to home school their children. Instead, the Obama administration wants the evangelical Christian family deported.The fate of Uwe and Hannelore Romeike – along with their six children – now rests with the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. In 2010 an immigration judge granted the family political refuge, but the Dept. of Homeland Security objected and argued they don’t deserve asylum.”

    The Obama Administration, and Charlie, wants to give free tuition, food stamps, and asylum to all the illegal Hispanics in this country……..but wants to deport a CAUCASIAN family, that has a job, that is home schooling, and that are NOT ON GOVERNMENT giveaways….isn’t this blatant racism under your guidelines? I mean, could I draw a conclusion on the appearance of impropriety, could I not? Hispanics treated differently than Caucasians?

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I agree Colonel, this stinks of racism. Much like what is happening to white people. Because I’m white and believe in the 2nd Amendment, I’m a terrorist. I’m white and don’t agree with Obama on most things, so I’m now a racist terrorist. I am mostly anti-government and believe that 9-11 was an inside job, so I’m a radical right wing racist terrorist. I’m also a proud veteran, so I’m a mentally ill radical right wing racist terrorist.

      I think that sums it up 🙂

      • Well, I cannot have it both ways……but it fits Charlie’s scenario. The mere appearance of impropriety. I actually see more religious discrimination in this case than anything else. At least they claimed political asylum….the border jumpers do not.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Another example of people being discriminated against for showing personal responsibility ? I really think they are trying to destroy that and make people dependent.

      • Bottom Line says:

        ” …and believe that 9-11 was an inside job… ”

        When were John Jacob Astor and Madeleine Talmage Force married?

      • “Because I’m white and believe in the 2nd Amendment, I’m a terrorist.”

        No, G, I don’t believe for a second you’re a terrorist. Nuts, maybe, but not a terrorist …:)

    • Colonel, I’m not familiar with this case nor do I care to become familiar with it 🙂 But I’m sure you have it wrong …:)

  5. Interesting interview on CNN this morning……did not catch the name but the marquee scrolling by at the bottom said it was a person from the Department of Human Health (whatever that is)…..saying that more children died last year from accidental drownings and bicycle accidents than were murdered by weapons.

    Wonder why there is no ban on private swimming pools and bicycles?

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Because those on the Left do not like personal responsibility, and owning a gun requires it.

      • “Because those on the Left do not like personal responsibility” … nothing like a blatant and broad generalization to regard as a fact … yous guys kill me 🙂

        • watch out gman, now you might get a visit from the cops because charlie said you kill him… 😀

        • gmanfortruth says:

          It’s my opinion Charlie, nowhere do I say that it is a fact of life. But once again, you claim it is wrong (opinion) but provide nothing else. You kill me too 🙂

  6. gmanfortruth says:

    Just a note. Punxetawny Phil is now being hunted. The little rodent was wrong and now he must parish, 😆

  7. People keep using the word racism-racism is based on hate-that isn’t our problem anymore. The problem is people using the poor for political purposes

    March 20, 2013
    The Politics of Demographics
    By Michael Bargo Jr.

    At first glance one might think that politicians get elected by studying the concerns of voters through focus groups and polls; then addressing those concerns with the goal of getting a plurality of votes. But since FDR, the government has been not just studying the concerns of voters, but has very aggressively shaped and built up the demographic characteristics of cities in order to build up their electorate.

    The most important demographic fact to politicians is the reality that about 75% of American voters live in urban areas. This may seem a benign observation, but when a forensic study of the demographic politics of urban areas is done it yields some fascinating and critically important information regarding how Democrats have built up their national
    party and continue to win national elections.

    In the late 19th century large American cities grew rapidly only because European immigrants settled in them. Cities were the first destinations since they offered the best chance of employment and housing. While legislation such as the Homestead Act encouraged Americans to move out west and settle into rural areas, most of those settlers were already living in the U.S.

    European immigration took place in two great waves. The second ended in 1930. That year was a benchmark year for other reasons as well: it was the start of the Great Depression and it was the start of the decade of the great expansion of New Deal programs designed to ameliorate poverty.

    Chicago provides an excellent example: in 1916 hundreds of thousands of Chicago men left the city to enlist in WWI. This labor shortage prompted Chicago employers to look to the South. The Great Migration of blacks to the northern cities started. However, once the Great Depression hit in 1930 and unemployment rose, the New Deal programs provided support for those blacks moving north.

    The growth of the black population in Chicago can be seen from these facts: in 1910 only 2% of Chicago was black but by 1970, 33% of it was. This rapid growth was soon seen as a way to maintain the population of the city. After 1950, as city dwellers began to move to suburbs and other parts of the country, the big cities of the Midwest and Northeast solidified their hold on their black populations through more Federal programs: Johnson’s Great Society initiative of 1965 expanded housing and many other entitlement programs.

    Chicago is located in Illinois and President Lincoln, the Republican president who freed the slaves, was from Illinois. When blacks first moved north many voted Republican out of respect for the memory of Lincoln. However, their party preference was quickly changed by Democrats, who ran both Chicago and the relief programs.

    Unfortunately, as blacks moved to Chicago, they were confined to highly segregated black neighborhoods. Remarkably, these areas are the same today as in 1920. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was so shocked by the racist attitudes that promoted segregation he said “I have never seen — even in Mississippi and Alabama — mobs as hostile and hate-filled as I’ve seen in Chicago.” (American Pharoah: Mayor Richard J. Daley, his battle for Chicago and the nation, Adam Cohen and Elizabeth Taylor) These prejudices were newly taught to Chicagoans: Chicago never had slavery.

    The city of Chicago slowly lost population but increased its Federal programs: while Chicago’s population dropped 8% from 1960 to 1970 the proportion of its population that lived in low income housing rose from 10% to 20%. The Model Cities housing program was started by Mayor Daley I in this decade.

    However, as the city continued to lose population, another demographic group had to be found. The city’s response was to embark on a program of promoting illegal immigration. Mayor Harold Washington issued Executive Order 85-1 in 1985 declaring that all benefits, services and employment opportunities were to be given to “residents” regardless of citizenship status. Of course Mayor Washington had no legal authority to issue such an Executive Order: EOs are restricted to city departments controlled by the mayor, and immigration is a Federal issue. In fact, this statement itself, by promoting illegal behavior, is illegal.

    But no one complained — the newspapers remained silent, and Chicago was able to preserve most of its public sector union jobs found in the Chicago Public Schools, Cook County, and other government units. Other cities without a Sanctuary Policy lost many residents: Detroit, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Cleveland are now half the population they were in 1930. Between 1900 and 2000 19 of the largest 100 U.S. cities would have lost population if not for Hispanic gains.

    The media in these cities carefully hide these facts since media, like politicians, earn their incomes based on the number of people in the area they serve. No local TV station wants to tell their advertisers that they lost one percent of their audience in the last year. City politicians and major media outlets share one goal in common: the growth of their city. Most government units are local: teacher unions cannot pack up to move to another state. The only way they can keep their jobs is to keep the schools full of students through demographic manipulation.

    Ancient civilizations would conquer neighbors, demand annual payments of tribute, and capture slaves for inexpensive labor. This tactic is no longer acceptable, so Democrats have carefully developed a new strategy: to bring people into their cities, fund them with Federal program dollars, and use their numbers to get reelected. There is no other explanation for the fact that Illinois and Cook County, where Chicago is located, have worked together to enable illegal immigrants to vote.

    Here’s how it was done: the state of Illinois passed a law legalizing the matricula consular card as valid in Illinois as an official state ID. Then, the Finance Committee of Cook County said that any foreign country with a consulate in Illinois can issue a matricula consular card.

    So foreign nationals who have no documentation can vote in Illinois to reelect the very Democrats who passed the laws allowing them to vote. And these consular cards are so phony that no major bank in Mexico City will accept one to open up a simple savings account, and two-thirds of the states of Mexico do not accept the Mexican consular card.

    These trends point to the demographic strategy Democrats have pursued in the past eighty years of creating voters out of “residents” in the largest cities under their control. This enables them to keep and maintain political power. And, it is all financed by taxpayers, T-bonds, and quantitative easing.

    Blacks and Hispanics are now 25% of the U.S. population. Their votes put Barack Obama into office. In the final analysis, the reason President Obama is so resistant to real spending cuts is that he sees Federal spending as crucial to financing the demographic foundation of his party’s electoral security.

    Read more:
    Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

  8. gmanfortruth says:

    Last week, the Los Angeles Times assured its readers that “cells of angry men in the United States” are “preparing for combat with the U.S. government. They are usually heavily armed, blinded by an intractable hatred, often motivated by religious zeal.” The lead editorial for March 8 goes on to inform citizens of the City of Angels that “right-wing Americans, nearly all with an obsessive attachment to guns … represent a greater danger to the lives of American civilians than international terrorists.”

    The Obama Administration’s push for stricter gun laws, says the Times, will likely lead to trouble. What kind of trouble? “There’s no knowing,” said the Times, “but some kind of serious attack is increasingly possible.”

    That same day, Huffington Post blogger Bob Burnett wrote, “Multiple excuses have been offered for the difficulty of enacting gun control legislation, but the most obvious problem has not been mentioned: the U.S. contains millions of Republican anarchists. These ultra-conservatives fear the government and buy guns for protection. Their Tea Party Congressmen will do everything they can to block common-sense legislation … [ultra conservatives] believe that Democracy gives them the liberty to seek their own self-interests by exercising personal responsibility, without having responsibility for anyone else or anyone else having responsibility for them,” lamented Burnett.

    And with that, Burnett gets to the crux of the matter: free thinkers, God-fearing gun-owners or not, aren’t keen to allow “anyone else to have responsibility for them” … especially when that loving “responsibility” is forced upon them against their will.

  9. @ all a yous wingies … The colonel wrote: .institutionalized racism is dead and gone.

    Really? Another fact yous have to ignore to maintain your absurd version of reality 🙂

    • Well, if there is any INSTITUTIONALIZED racism around it is coming from the left-although I would argue that racism is the wrong word. Minorities are simply useful tools for the Progressive movement to use. But it’s the Poor that they are manipulating for their political advantage. And keeping them poor is necessary or they would lose their control over them.

      • So minorities are under represented on Wall Street, in banks, in CEO positions, etc. etc. because ???????? they’re too dumb, unqualified, what, exactly?

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Why don’t you tell us why? Do you even know or are gonna repeat more left wing BS?

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Maybe they don’t have a real interest in BANKING.

        • No, they are not too dumb-but many of them are too poor, too angry, too wrapped up in the mentality of I am owed, that they do not use the tools they have been given to pull themselves out of institutionalized poverty. And the people on the left with their rhetoric and policies make sure they keep them in that mind set.

          And as far as Wall Street, Banks, and CEO positions-it isn’t just the minorities that are underrepresented-just because a few elitist hold most of these positions doesn’t make it a matter of racism. It’s more a matter of a few believing they are superior based on the school they went too or how much money they possess. But let’s not pretend that even those people didn’t have to work hard to get there. But it certainly isn’t based on someones race.

          • “but many of them are too poor, too angry, too wrapped up in the mentality of I am owed, that they do not use the tools they have been given to pull themselves out of institutionalized poverty. ”

            is that what you really think? That’s the reason minorities are so ignored by Wall Street, et al ? Come on, V.H., you have to do better than that. First of all, for those who do manage to climb out of ghettos/poverty, etc., and graduate with MBA’s, etc., they’re still ignored by Wall Street, Major law firms, etc. … so now that they’ve indebted themselves for $200K (those without scholarships) … what then? Are they still too angry and wrapped up in the mentality that they are owed?

            Please …

            • gmanfortruth says:

              Charlie, you are ranting using your normal fantasy story telling BS without one shred of actual evidence.

            • Yes Charlie that is what I think because that is reality. There are people out there of all stripes who run into a wall of elitism when it comes to some jobs. So minorities have to do what everyone else does -go work at other corporations, start their own business’s, whatever-but in the end they have pulled themselves out of poverty. Maybe they won’t become rich but maybe the next generation will. If they are encouraged to strive instead of stew in how unfair the world is to them while living off of the government.

              Now as far as college-some have made the claim that so many business’s starting to demand a degree to be able to continue to be promoted was a matter of racism. I don’t doubt that was the reasoning of a few. But I personally think it was the governments fault for sticking their noses into the business world and demanding quotas and declaring every act which didn’t promote a minority the fault of racism. In order to limit the fear of being sued for their every action-they figured if their ability to base promotion on qualifications was limited than the next best thing would be to limit promotions to someone who at least had a college degree-which used to actually mean something. So I personally think changing that one policy, demanding a degree has caused so many problems, including having a $200,000 debt, which also isn’t limited to minorities and really damaged the ability one has of achieving the “American Dream” , but it too was caused by government interference.

              • “Yes Charlie that is what I think because that is reality. There are people out there of all stripes who run into a wall of elitism when it comes to some jobs. So minorities have to do what everyone else does -go work at other corporations, start their own business’s, whatever-but in the end they have pulled themselves out of poverty. Maybe they won’t become rich but maybe the next generation will. If they are encouraged to strive instead of stew in how unfair the world is to them while living off of the government.”

                You’re smarter than this, V.H. I know you are.

                This is insane.

              • I guess, Charlie-you expect someone to just snap their fingers, pass a few laws and all the injustices of mankind will be remedied. It isn’t gonna happen that way-it can’t happen that way. And making people think it can-is what’s insane.

        • Ever think it is because that is not the field of employment they persue? I grew up in a “black” neigborhood, where as a white guy I was the minority. I can tell you that not one of my friends wanted to go to college to work on Wall st. Most wanted to be athletes or rappers.

          Are you going to say that there is racism in the NBA because whites are under represented? Or how about the rap industry, should we force record labels to hire more white rappers just to make it fair?

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Charlie, your opinion is important and welcome, but you bring nothing else to the table. Refute with facts if you can. I doubt that you can, but I will listen 😆

      • G, your opinions are usually insane but always welcome (this is, after all, a pretty insance site), but you bring nothing but brainwashed bullshit and insane rants. YOU refute with facts (not Iceland is a communist country) and I’LL decide if I want to listen. 🙂

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Charlie, you are refuting me, first. Don’t worry, I know you have nothing more than opinion, because their are no facts to support your words. Words, Mr. Wardsworth, 😆

          • Gman: Iceland is a communist country? True or false …fact or fiction?

            Try again, G–enius 🙂

            • gmanfortruth says:

              Charlie, I admitted my error. Back in 1987 we didn’t have the internet to look shit up in seconds. Kind of like Holland is a country 😆 You try again. 🙂

  10. Just A Citizen says:

    Here is a map showing WHERE Charlie’s HATED 1% are located. The darkest green is a much greater percentage of income earners, but it does include the top 1%.

    • Love to know your point, JAC 🙂

      • Just A Citizen says:

        With the exception of Alaska Charlie, they all live in those bastions of Progressive Democrats. The ones who elected your precious Obama.

        • Tell me you’re not that ignorant, JAC … like a) it would make a difference where someone lived if they wielded that kind of clout or b) like it would make a difference who was elected. You really over reach sometimes.

  11. Just A Citizen says:

    Oh man, those Rich 5% just made out like bandits the past 11 years.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        Your data is incomplete. And the economist is twisting what data they presented. I wonder if you even realize it.

        Since your “checkmate” was PREMATURE you have to forfeit.

        • In your dreams, JAC … as usualy, the facts destroy your argument and leave you with nothing but the usual “your data is incomplete” “You’re wrong, I’m right” … like I said, in your dreams.

          • Just A Citizen says:


            The FACT is that YOUR data is incomplete. The graph I provided includes the data you cited but extends to 2011.

            Sorry Charlie.

          • The facts you are pointing too are incomplete charlie. Have you see the data in income mobility? Did you know that most of the evil rich in America are first generation (which means they earned it)? Did you also know that most lower income Americans move into the middle and upper income brackets than in any other country in the World, especially the ones with the most socialism?

            We have income inequality because we have work ethic inequality.

            • Hey FLPatriot,
              Weren’t we going to talk about economics and income?

              Have you see the data in income mobility?

              Do you have a link that shows the data on income mobility?

            • You wrote: Have you see the data in income mobility? Did you know that most of the evil rich in America are first generation (which means they earned it)? Did you also know that most lower income Americans move into the middle and upper income brackets than in any other country in the World, especially the ones with the most socialism?

              We have income inequality because we have work ethic inequality.

              Do you have ANY idea how ignorant those statements are? Do you have a CLUE?

              Take a real slow, good look at this video:

              Income mobility in America … now that’s funny … how does the middle class drifting into poverty equate to something positive for you? You do what every defender of the 1% does, you point to poverty elsewhere and claim our poor have it so much better (so they should be happy?).

              As for first generation wealth having “earned” their wealth … so does that include money made off the back of slaves? Does it include money made from real estate appropriated from native Americans? Like I said, do you have a CLUE how absurd your argument is?

              Don’t sweat it, I expect nothing else on this site … it’s a recurring theme. An inconvenient truth, if you will. The mantra being: “Well, that was 200, 400, 600 years ago. How is that our fault?”

              Someday you’ll figure out it isn’t about assigning blame and has everything to do with dismantling the absurd bumper stickers the right so often depends on … you first generation wealthy didn’t earn their money “all on their own” any more than Donald Trump “earns” his today.

              We have income inequality because we have work ethic inequality.

              Right. Whatever you say, FL. You keep convincing yourself of this. The wealthy 1% have a better work ethic than you or I and certainly the poor in this country. It’s statements like this that make me bite my tongue from calling you a moron. So, consider me biting my tongue right now. 🙂

              • Proud moron here! I’ve been called worse Poppa Stella. Please explain to the class exactly what economic condition, or exactly which 1%er has caused you to fail to get rich. Did capitalism fail you personally? Or did Trump steal your paychecks? And why did they pick on you instead of Steve Jobs, Michael Jordan, or Sarah Palin(aaaaaaaaaahahahaha, gotcha there!)?

  12. gmanfortruth says:

    Yep, them poor folks sure are hurting.

    A Ford Dealer’s Report – From Tom Selkis’ (Latham Ford) Facebook – True story yesterday at the dealership.

    I’ll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

    One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus.

    As he was reviewing her credit application with her he noticed she was on social security disability.
    He said to her you don’t look like you’re disabled and unable to work.

    She said well I’m really not. I could work if I wanted to, but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

    She said the gov’t sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check. And she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent.
    Oh yeah, and 250 minutes free on her Government paid phone.

    That is just south of $3500.00 a month. When she was working, she was taking home about $330.00 per week.

    Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work. If you multiply that by millions of people, you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country.

    Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario, we are finished as a Republic. The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven’t already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

    She didn’t lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00/month.

    Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money.”

    • You need to read this one Charlie, maybe you’d understand our reasoning a little better. The poor being kept on institutionalized poverty, which ain’t exactly poverty anymore but it sure is welfare. But it does nothing to help or encourage them or their children to get off the poverty roles and governmental support. It actually in one way makes them almost stupid to even try. That’s why they must add in that needed ingredient , that mental justification- they must be convinced they are owed-human dignity demands it. If not, they might actually use it to , as that saying you so hate goes “pick themselves up by their own bootstraps” with just a little, temporary help from their fellow citizens. Something I think most of us are willing to provide.

  13. Ok Charlie……….I just read your pther posts……want to start with “Wall Street” ? That is you main beef…right?

    • Just A Citizen says:


      Good morning Colonel. Hope all is well in the Republic this fine WET morning. The rest of the country is in for some fun based on the amount of water than rolled ashore last night.

      I think you are wasting your time with Charlie on this. I will bet his argument goes back to pre-America. You see those slaves have never been given the chance to truly get out of the ghettos. Because of their ancestors treatment they don’t get the same chances as everyone else. So it is and will always be “racism” when a minority isn’t represented among the successful.

      His biggest problem is the Asian growth on Wall Street. Somehow those slaves to the railroads managed to produce offspring that gravitated towards the money.

      Gee……….. I wonder if there could be some “cultural” or socio/political differences that could account for this disparity? 😉

  14. Just A Citizen says:

    Some EEOC data on changes in minority composition within Financial Banking industry from 1990 Census to 2000.

    Note: The percentage of Blacks in managerial AND professional positions INCREASED. Asians increase was the largest. Women declined.

  15. JAC….I understand this but am willing to go with him on it…..because the only thing that he can rely on is the past and I am not going to give on this. In my article, which is in limbo right now and stuck in Word Press cyber space, I acknowledge that the past was not right but those things have been changed. The color of skin does not keep you out of school, off the bus, out of hotels, lower wages, or any of the time worn mantra that you used to hear. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act of the 90’s has not only leveled the playing field but has tilted it dramatically in the minority favor. ( Minority being defined just liket the Act defines it….non white). I am ready for all the arguments.

    He picks on Wall Street….so I am ready for this.. I do not care for Wall Street anymore than he does but I am not willing to say that racism is keeping anyone off the Boards or our of the mainstream.

    • Oh, by the way, sir, everything is ok in the land of the free and home of the gun totin’ …..

    • Just A Citizen says:


      Some more opinion on how Race in high end Business Schools is affected by “perceptions”, “bias”, and “cultural differences”.

      The first post is good but there is a later one talking about the difficulty of Asians and Indians getting admitted. It shows how the cultural issues create huge limitations.

      I will add this. People coming from “my background” have an equally low chance of being accepted into the “prestigious” schools or hired by a manager who graduated from one. Because my parents did not.

      The irony is that when I graduated High School the Ivy League schools were recruiting us “country bumpkins” and “hicks from the West” as part of their MINORITY outreach and AFFIRMATIVE ACTION programs. I was viewed in the same light regarding my “rarity” as any Black or Indian.

      Maybe that is why I have never had a “fond spot” for the Ivy League Elitists of the EAST COAST.

  16. Actually, the Affirmative Action Program died for a reason……it did not work. The Republicans did not kill it, the Democrats did not kill it……the whites did not kill it… dies its own death because the results were the opposite of what was expected….and, I think I can make a great case that Affirmative Action did more damage to the minority population than anything else.

    • Just A Citizen says:


      I am curious about WHICH affirmative action program you are talking about. I can attest to the fact that it has NOT died in the Federal Govt.

      Despite having been basically outlawed by the Fed Courts, there is still a “quota” system being pushed INFORMALLY.

      • This is very true and have run into this myself. When the Feds were hiring down here for the border ( not border patrol )….they were looking for Spanish speaking supervisors with military training,. I applied and had to fill out what is known as KSA’s. I was fluent in Spanish and had related drug background training. I was a veteran with purple heart and a rank above major. In other words, I had over 30 points of preferential hiring points. I was turned down because I was not Hispanic nor Black. They hired 30 supervisors and 23 of them were not conversant in Spanish and did not have military backgrounds…..but were hired and sent to training schools. So, the Affirmative Action bullshit is still alive in the Federal Government. But, I do not know if you remember or not, they applied AAP to the civilian world as I remember having to account for the number of minorities. However, it failed miserably and they discontinued it officially but the Feds want to keep it for the voting block and are doing so.

  17. The other thing that one needs to realize is that culture and racism are not alike.

  18. Just A Citizen says:

    Some House Keeping.

    I wanted to comment on the Elizabeth Warren questioning in Congress the other day regarding minimum wages. Most responses have focused only on her “question”. But part of the story, for those not familiar with how these things work, is the response of the guy she questioned.

    THIS IS A SET UP give and take. She knew his position and she fed him a line to run with in “testimony”.

    Now, since he couldn’t answer the question let me.

    Ms. Warren, the increase did not go anywhere. You have asked a question based on a FALSE premise. Namely that if you increased wages at the same rate as productivity then wages would continue to rise. This ASSUMES that productivity would have continued to rise.

    Well Senator, I’m afraid that makes little sense. You see, once you linked the two there would be ZERO incentive to improve productivity. So what you would have seen is wages increase the first year or two and then STOP, along with productivity gains.

    Of course the REAL wages would have then declined over time as INFLATION ate away at the stagnate wage and company profits.

    Since Real Wages have increased over time, until recently, it would be safe to assume that PART of the PROFITS related to those PRODUCTIVITY GAINS was used to increase wages as well as pay for those Cadillac BENEFIT PACKAGES employees were getting, again until recently. But we can hold off on a discussion of Obama Care for another day.

    Yet other parts were used to expand business, conduct research, retool plants, hire new employees, etc, etc. You know, those things we call INVESTMENT. Except these did not cost the Federal Govt any tax dollars nor create long term Federal Debt.

    Now if this is not enough for you Senator I urge you to consider the fact that Productivity is a measure of Cost to Output where as Wages is a cost of labor. One is a measure of ratios the other of value.

    In short Senator, they are Apples and Oranges.

    One last note to the audience. I WITHDRAW my previous complimentary comments regarding the good Senator from Massytooshits.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Some of these politicians are really baffling. I’m still shaking my head over the idiot that said the Island of Guam could flip over. Really don’t say much for the voters in his district either. Then again, he is a left wing Democrat, what else can be expected. 🙂

  19. gmanfortruth says:
    • Just A Citizen says:


      Funny. But there is something missing in the discussion. Would love to know the answer.

      WHY didn’t the monkey getting GRAPES throw the same fit?

      Neither was getting the same thing. Did the Monkey place “different” value on the grapes?

      If not then why wouldn’t both be upset for not getting the SAME thing?

      Something tells me they were both previously exposed to GRAPES, thus there was a bias towards grapes over cucumber.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        In the video, the guy speaking said that they preferred grapes over cucumbers. At least that’s what I heard. It is funny though, that little primate threw a little fit, 😆

  20. California: How about a retroactive tax grab, plus interest?
    posted at 12:01 pm on March 20, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

    In his State of the State address in January, Gov. Jerry Brown proudly proclaimed that, “Two years ago, they were writing our obituary. Well it didn’t happen. California is back, its budget is balanced, and we are on the move.”

    …Which is interesting, because the January unemployment numbers just came in, and California is apparently competing with Rhode Island for the worst state unemployment rate in the country.

    California’s jobless rate was unchanged at 9.8% in January for the second straight month, and that lack of improvement put the Golden State in a tie with Rhode Island for the worst unemployment in the U.S.

    On the other end of the spectrum, North Dakota had the lowest jobless rate, 3.3%, the government said Monday in releasing updated and revised employment data for all 50 states.

    California will release its county-by-county breakdown of jobs Friday, which economists expect will reflect the slow growth that is predicted in the state for 2013.

    While some of California’s interior counties are really struggling, the wealthy coasts and the tech industry are helping to keep everything propped up — but it seems that the progressive state just can’t resist taking a little off the top wherever possible.

    California’s top-end taxpayers — already steamed over a recent hike in the nation’s highest state income tax — are now fuming over a new $120 million retroactive tax grab on small business owners.

    In December, the state’s tax authority determined that a tax break claimed over the past few years by 2,500 entrepreneurs and stockholders of California-based small businesses is no longer valid and sent out notices of payment.

    “How would you feel if you made a decision, which was made four years ago, (and) you absolutely knew was legally correct and four years later a governing body came in and said, ‘no, it’s not correct, now you owe us a bunch more money. And we’re going to charge you interest on money you didn’t even know you owed’,” Brian Overstreet told Fox News from his office north of San Francisco. …

    “Once the revenue is identified, those folks up in Sacramento will figure out how to spend it already,” warns former state Sen. George Runner. “And that’s what makes this so difficult. Even though it has this great bipartisan support as being wrong.” …

    But don’t you dare imply that California is engendering an unfriendly business climate! California certainly has plenty of lifelines, and officials will point to various positive economic and employment trends as evidence that California is heading in the right direction — but other states are stepping it up on revising tax codes, reducing regulation, and attracting businesses, and the California blue-state model is hardly a recipe for long-term success.

  21. Blackmail by government-is this the way to fight against this stuff?

    Lawmakers Want University Defunded over Sex Week

    Mar 20, 2013

    By Todd Starnes

    A group of Tennessee lawmakers is preparing to issue an ultimatum to the University of Tennessee-Knoxville – either defund the first-ever “Sex Week” or they will defund the university.

    Lawmakers, alumni, and taxpayers are furious that the university allocated nearly $20,000 to fund a week-long salute to sex that included a poetry-reading lesbian bondage expert, a campus-wide condom scavenger hunt and seminars on—among other things – oral sex.

    “We should be teaching these children what is important to learn so they can get jobs,” state Sen. Stacey Campfield told Fox News. “I don’t know what jobs they plan on getting if they’re having seminars on oral sex and bondage. I don’t see how that will help someone in their professional career – unless they plan on becoming a porn star.”

    And some lawmakers are openly asking how workshops on oral sex and lesbian erotica can help students in their future professional careers.

    “This is truly an offense to the people of Tennessee,” state Rep. Susan Lynn said on the House floor. “I am offended for the people of my district at the University of Tennessee having sex week.”

    A university spokesperson confirmed to Fox News that the nearly $20,000 event is being funded by student fees and university money.
    Sinclair Sexsmith – noted lesbian bondage and leather expert

    Sinclair Sexsmith – noted lesbian bondage and leather expert

    The nearly $20,000 cost was covered by money given from specific academic programs “who see a common interest – from law, from sociology and from history.”

    “The university is providing funding for this workshop because it covers a wide range of issues that are beneficial to our students,” the spokesperson said. “It’s tackling important topics related to sexual health, sexual identity, preventing sexual assault, gender roles and religion.”

    Sen. Campfield told Fox News he is beyond outraged.

    “They’ve been trying to say it’s about safety and birth control,” he said. “These kids are supposed to be some of the smartest kids out there – and they don’t know where to buy condoms?”

    Campfield called Sex Week “complete ridiculous.”

    “If they can’t figure out where to buy condoms, I question whether they need to be in college in the first place – if they’re that stupid.”

    Campfield has summoned university officials to the state capitol to explain why they signed off on the event. And he’s also going to try and withhold the university’s budget until they get answers.

    “The university always cries poor-mouth, that they don’t have any money and yet they seem to have plenty of money to do this kind of stuff,” he said. “We’re going to try and hold their budget until it gets squared away.”

    “This is not what tax dollars should be supporting,” he said.

    Sex Week is scheduled for April 7-12 and includes 30 events including “Getting Laid,” “Sex Positivity; Queer as a Verb,” “Bow Chicka Bow Woah,” “How to talk to Your Parents About Sex,” “Loud and Queer,” and “How Many Licks Does it Take…” – a workshop about oral sex.

    The university spokesperson said the student organizers did a good job making sure there are things to appeal to all students.

    Noted lesbian bondage expert and erotica author Sinclair Sexsmith is scheduled to deliver a lecture titled, “Messing Around with Gender.

    UT student Brianna Rader, one of the founders of Sex Week, told Fox News that Sexsmith will not be engaging in lesbian bondage demonstrations during her appearance.

    “She’s doing a workshop on poetry about sexuality,” Rader said. ‘She’s also going to be talking about constructing and reconstructing gender roles in society.”

    The content of sex week prompted Rep. Bill Dunn to express his outrage on the House floor.

    “It’s debauchery,” he told Fox News. “They are treating sex in such a frivolous manner.”

    Dunn, who graduated from the University of Tennessee, said he’s been overwhelmed with phone calls from angry citizens.

    “I don’t think they approve of the university using their resources to push forth a hook-up agenda,” he said.

    Dunn said he’s been in touch with university officials who told him they’ve already launched an internal inquiry into who ultimately gave the thumbs up for the event.

    “There’s going to be an investigation as to whose thumb was up,” he said. “I’m not sure the president of the university was aware of what happened.”

    Dunn said he was motivated to speak out after the House passed three bills dealing with human trafficking of children.

    “Society needs to understand you are going to reap what you sow,” he said. “If you turn sex into some kind of a game – and toys and debauchery – does it really shock you that people then take it to the step of ‘Hey, kids are just sex toys that we buy and sell and we get our pleasure however we want to?’”

    Dunn said it’s time for university presidents across the state to buck up and have the courage to say certain things are inappropriate.

    “It’s time for them to stand up,” he said. “There are adults who need to grow up and act like adults and lead young people toward what is good and health – as opposed to promoting stuff that leads to the breakdown of the family and sexual abuse.”

    Campfield said the inmates are running the asylum.

    “They say it’s all about diversity,” he told Fox News. “Well, perversity does not make diversity just because it’s at the university.”

    • Brown University has their sex week too. For Charlie – is this racism?

      • Wow, just WOW! I don’t even have to ask-are they telling the whites that they should fight their attraction to POC- Not -only white people can be racist. Wonder what they are telling white queers-their words, not mine-here’s your badge of white shame-bad white person-it is your fault POC are attracted to you. Makes you want to just give up-white people purposely
        demonizing their own race-I wonder what they think the outcome of promoting all this hate for white people is going to create. Empathy and fairness -not hardly- hate produces hate.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          When I read the article, I got the impression the whole thing about queers being attracted to whites was nothing more that a control issue, like rape, but with consent. Especially with men. What do you think?

          • I didn’t get that-how did you get that?

            • gmanfortruth says:

              That is how I read it I guess. I’m not sure why, but there is something there that need to be thought out over time. I will, then maybe write an article.

    • Just A Citizen says:


      YES, that is how you fight against this stuff. Elected officials representing the PEOPLE against the use of their tax money to fund stupidity and moral decay.

      • I don’t know-I see the Federal using the money they give the states to try and force them to do what they want. I see the government using this same type of thing to make many organizations that get money from the government to do many things I am against. Course I also see the federal forcing people to do some things who get no money from them. I have to wonder-are we at a point where governmental power is the only real power we the people have anymore.

        • Just A Citizen says:


          The Feds pushing around the States is an issue of sovereignty. Of course the States could say Hell No to the money and that would resolve many such conflicts.

          The University is funded by Tax dollars so the Govt should be able to direct its activities that use such funds. Obviously they did not allocate funds for this purpose. It violates the trust.

          Now, if the Student took up a collection of donations to fund this then they could conduct it anywhere they could find someone to rent them the space. No Govt interference allowed at that point.

          Your wonderment is correct but slightly reversed. It is because we rely on Govt power so much that we have created these conundrums of what appear to be interference when in fact it is just govt messing with govt. Or Govt messing with people because they accept Govt money.

    • Matt Lockwood says:

      This is what drives me crazy about republicans these days- they get their panties in a knot because of some “class” that they wouldn’t even dream of attending or some “study” that they have no real interest in anyway, and rant about taxpayer waste! In ALL cases, the money they complain about is like a teaspoon of water in the ocean! I mean, seriously, you’re gonna bitch because they spent a whole 20k to put this week on?? Some of the things people get crazy about! And it DOESN’T affect their life at all!!

      • It isn’t the money and I suspect you already know that. But how you come to the conclusion that this doesn’t effect us all-when it effects our children, not to mention the attitudes of the next generation-is hard to understand.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        The essence of your complaint is that the importance of a principle or the impact of an action on a community, or society, is dependent upon its financial cost relative to the larger budget.

        One bite at a time Matt. That is how you eat the elephant.

        All flaws are important. The smaller may be more so because they are easier to address. And when they are added together they can create the wave needed to fix the larger problems.

        In this case it is not about a “waste” of money. It is about ABUSE of public trust when you take money for education and spend it on debauchery that has nothing to do with the education mission.

        And if you think this amount is so small, keep in mind it would educate TWO children for an entire school year.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        P.S., this is not a Republican issue, it is an issue of Right vs. Wrong.

        • Matt Lockwood says:

          I know where you’re coming from, and to a degree, I agree. But to me, the big man upstairs knew this would happen and he’s worked it into his plans. Believe me when I say that some days the only thing that keeps me from going crazy is realizing that He is in control! That being said, my larger point with that would probably be that whatever this school wanted to teach/indoctrinate/expand horizons, however you want to put it, has NOTHING to do with MY spiritual walk, and especially with the little cost too it, won’t get my panties in a knot so to speak. Whatever this class is about, does not infringe upon my life, or for that matter anyone else, only those who chose to take the class/attend the class, however you want to look at it. And in the big picture, if there wasn’t a higher power in control, then this also (to me) would be an issue that I might do something about after the country’s economic issues were I might get around to this in say, 20 years, but it doesn’t rate high on the priority list now(for me). Thanks for sharing tho, and clarifying your points! That’s what I have liked about this blog from the beginning.. respectful discussion/disagreement.! Carry on!

    • Update

      University of Tennessee Pulls Funding for “Sex Week”

      Posted in Top Stories | 0 comments
      University of Tennessee Pulls Funding for “Sex Week”

      Mar 20, 2013

      By Todd Starnes

      Organizers of the University of Tennessee’s first-ever “Sex Week” will have to find a new source of funding after embattled university officials reversed course and announced they will not fund the controversial program with state tax dollars.

      Follow Todd on Facebook for Culture War News! Click here to join!

      “We support the process and the students involved, but we should not use state funds in this manner,” Chancellor Jimmy Cheek said in a statement.

      Cheek made the announcement after reviewing “Sex Week’s” final agenda. As a result, the student-led event will be forced to find $11,145 in additional funding. The university will continue to let the group use $6,700 in student fees.

      UT System President Joe DiPietro said he supports the decision.

      “The University is accountable to the General Assembly, the governor and the people of Tennessee for the use of state tax dollars,” DiPietro said. “The University’s three-part mission is to provide education, research and public service, and the state allocates this funding to help us fulfill the mission. Some activities planned as part of Sex Week are not an appropriate use of state tax dollars.”

      The university’s turn-about came as Tennessee’s governor and a host of lawmakers voiced their public opposition. Several lawmakers had already announced plans to defund the university unless they defunded “Sex Week.”

      A spokesman for Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam told Fox News that based on the information they had, “we believe this is an inappropriate use of university funds.”

      FYI-Rest of the article is just a repeat of the original

    • Just A Citizen says:


      From within the article: “”We are not pro-business,” Schweizer emphatically said. “We are pro-free markets.””

      Now lets modify that, SUFA Style:

      We are not pro-free markets. We are pro freedom, liberty and justice. These make free markets inevitable.

  22. The Unmourned
    By Mark Steyn
    March 20, 2013 12:06 P.M.

    In 2011, I wrote about mass murder at Kermit Gosnell’s abortion “clinic”:

    From the Office of the District Attorney in Philadelphia:

    Viable babies were born*. Gosnell killed them by plunging scissors into their spinal cords. He taught his staff to do the same.

    This is a remarkable moment in American life: A man is killing actual living, gurgling, bouncing babies on an industrial scale – and it barely makes the papers. Had he plunged his scissors into the spinal cord of a Democrat politician in Arizona, then The New York Times, ABC, CBS, NBC and everyone else would be linking it to Sarah Palin’s uncivil call for dramatic cuts in government spending. But “Doctor” Kermit Gosnell’s mound of corpses is apparently entirely unconnected to the broader culture.

    And so it goes two years on, at “Doctor” Gosnell’s trial:

    Medical assistant Adrienne Moton admitted Tuesday that she had cut the necks of at least 10 babies after they were delivered, as Gosnell had instructed her. Gosnell and another employee regularly “snipped” the spines “to ensure fetal demise,” she said.

    Moton sobbed as she recalled taking a cellphone photograph of one baby because he was bigger than any she had seen aborted before. She measured the fetus at nearly 30 weeks, and thought he could have survived, given his size and pinkish color. Gosnell later joked that the baby was so big he could have walked to the bus stop, she said.


    Notwithstanding Dr. Gosnell’s jest, and the fact that newborns delivered alive are generally regarded as “babies,” the New York Times’ only story on the case is punctilious enough to refer to Gosnell’s victims as “viable fetuses,” and its early paragraphs emphasize the defense’s wearily predictable line that this is a “racist prosecution.” Instead of my Arizona comparison, what about Sandy Hook? One solitary act of mass infanticide by a mentally-ill loner calls into question the constitutional right to guns, but a sustained conveyor belt of infanticide by an entire cadre of cold-blooded killers apparently has no implications for the constitutional right to abortion. As one commentator wondered two years ago:

    Does 30 years of calling babies “blobs of tissue” have no effect on the culture?

    For the answer, consider the testimony of “Nurse” Moton — and the clarification by AP writer Maryclaire Dale:

    She once had to kill a baby delivered in a toilet, cutting its neck with scissors, she said. Asked if she knew that was wrong, she said, “At first I didn’t.”

    Abortions are typically performed in utero.

    “Typically.” So, finding oneself called on to “abort” a “viable fetus” in a toilet with a pair of scissors, who wouldn’t be confused as to whether it’s “wrong” or merely marginally atypical?

    Gosnell’s murderous regime in Philadelphia reflects on him. The case’s all but total absence from the public discourse reflects on America:

    It’s time for the lukewarm to get over whatever prejudices are keeping them from getting on the right side of this issue, for the good of the victims of this ghastly culture, and for their own good as well.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      V.H. I know this is upsetting to you. This is eugenics at it’s worst. Notice, once again, the political correctness in the article. It will not say that a vast majority (if not all) of these abortions were done to black babies. This is what the radical left wants, population control. They are winning for now, at least on this issue.

      I would like Buck to post his opinion. That should be interesting.

      • You know G-I don’t think many people knowingly support abortion based on the evil intentions of those who used eugenics in the past. But I do think the outcome is the same-no matter their intent- they are supporting the evils of eugenics. Many argue based on economics-that’s trying to get rid of the poor-they argue based on disability-that is getting rid of the non-perfect. Others argue based on the equality of woman-that’s just another argument based more on economics than anything else and it’s selfish beyond belief to believe one must kill their prodigy to achieve their desires. Adoption is an option and not to take that option is based on what argument-it’s too hard.

  23. gmanfortruth says:

    I just saw on TV that 1 in 50 kids have Autism. I would bet there are more than one common denominators that can solve this epidemic! I have read that there are 90 important minerals that can help these kids. I believe it may, I mean may, have a correlation with vaccinations. It may also have something to do with flouride in the cities drinking water.

    All I can say is that this is a travesty that has a solution.

  24. gmanfortruth says:
  25. Never mind this political bullshit for two minutes … there’s another Stella in the world! Evelyn Amelia Stella … singing to beat the band (a soprano, no doubt) … her first words, of course, were “Nonno! “Nonno!” (Grandpa!) … Just back from Manhattan where much of the hurrican damage is still visible (they just reopened NYU … ) …

  26. Grazie, G. Time to celebrate here at casa Stella.

  27. gmanfortruth says:

    When Michael Moore speaks, I rarely listen because he has nothing intelligent to say. To prove my theory once again, I listened this time, and sure enough, nothing remotely intelligent. He, like most Liberals who speak before they think, don’t realize that there is an opposite for his little tirade about Reid. Let me try 🙂

    I bet Moore would change his mind about many things if he found himself being gang raped by a married male gay couple on s violent crime spree. Oh, and yes Mr. Moore, they would make you squeal like a pig. Wouldn’t it have been nice to have a gun now? 🙄

  28. gmanfortruth says:

    Weather forecast for the next 36 hours. 4-6 inches of snow, temps in mid 20’s, 20-30 mph winds. That groundhog is in deep trouble in these parts, LOL 😆

  29. gmanfortruth says:
  30. gmanfortruth says:

    Cyprus govt now discussing seizing retirement accounts! OY VEY, what a bunch of thieves!

  31. gmanfortruth says:
  32. @ FL You say: “Charlie, that is a definitive statement that starts with a false premise. Money does not always lead to power. Money can and is used to acheive positive results. It is the LOVE of money that is the root of evil, not the money itself.”

    Fair enough (that it doesn’t ALWAYS lead to power) but the FACT of America is IT IS POWER (and that is my point). Citizens United, that fiasco, proves it beyond a reasonable doubt. Elections are bought and paid for … I think we both agree. You own the government, you own the rules … and if the bailout wasn’t a good enough example, I don’t know what would be.

    You say: “Now the power weilded by politicians in Washington that corrupts the most and it affects the most number of people. If we reduce the power in Washington we reduce the desire to control that power.”

    I agree that if THESE PARTICULAR clowns in DC are removed (both parties), we stand a better chance, but realistically, how long would it take (under the same government construct) for the new clowns to replace the old ones? Not very long, I suspect. And that doesn’t mean any new set of clowns would do better, even those from the working class—the entire structure needs to be reformed. Term limits, for one thing. A much more representative government (for workers) as well.

    You say: “Unfortunatly for the left, you think that you can use the corrupted power in Washington to fix the woes of the country, when it is that same power that is causing much of those woes. It is like saying you should shoot yourself in the right leg to fix the bullet wound in you left leg.”

    No, because MY left would want capitalism curtailed, at least enough so money doesn’t get to bail itself out when it loses … now you can point to the government and claim it was “the government’s fault for bailing out Wall Street” but let’s be a bit more honest here and realize who was behind that retarded move (both parties were guilty, Obama more so than Bush—but both were equally guilty of protecting the rights of the 1% … too big to fail isn’t just a slogan, it’s how this country has been economically arranged over time. Today I read where some CEO took a $100 million stock option … sorry, but NOBODY DESERVES THAT KIND OF MONEY IN MY AMERICA … that’s just obscene while we have 20% unemployment and a middle class that is quickly dissolving into a poverty class.

    • Just A Citizen says:


      You miss the main point on power once again. You always fall back to the “clowns”.

      You can change the clowns all you want but if you do not change the POWER of the Fed Govt then all you do is change who gets screwed by those at the top.

      If you want freedom, liberty, and more importantly some justice, then you need to change the Power itself. This means REDUCING the AUTHORITY granted to the Fed Govt.

      It is WE THE PEOPLE who have that ability, through our elected STATE Representatives. Yes, you still have to deal with “elected officials” and the possible corruption, but it is closer to home and is thus more easily accomplished.

      • It is good to see that Charlie recognizes the evil in human nature, most on the left only see that evil in free men. I do have to agree with JAC, charlie you need to understand that most people that we send to Washington will be corrupted by the amount of power they will inherit. Our only hope is to reduce the authority of the federal government so that the dirt bags in Washington have less oppertunity to affect our lives, as intended by the founders.

        Rant Alert: For too long the general public has been asleep at the reins of government and have allowed the Washington beast to grow out of control. It will take a strong generation to beat that beast back into submission to the public. Sadly the spinless out number the strong, as evident in the 2012 elections.

      • “If you want freedom, liberty, and more importantly some justice, then you need to change the Power itself. This means REDUCING the AUTHORITY granted to the Fed Govt.”

        JAC, what would be the difference? 10 clowns/100 clowns/1000 clowns? So long as they are beholden to the 1%, the 1% rules. In fact, the less clowns, one has to guess, the easier the control/corruption.

        “It is WE THE PEOPLE who have that ability, through our elected STATE Representatives. Yes, you still have to deal with “elected officials” and the possible corruption, but it is closer to home and is thus more easily accomplished.”

        I agree, JAC, but again, if money is power (and it is), than the State Reps are equally bought and sold (or do you really think there are any operating today who aren’t)? Outside of Bernie Sanders (who I suspect you deplore), I don’t know of one. Rand Paul, et al (tea partiers) claim they’re for the people (sort of like Democrats), yet what they propose financially guarantees that the 1% become the 0.5%, etc.

        WE THE PEOPLE makes for a nice bumper sticker, but it’s absolutely nonsense in America today. We the people (or as G calls them, Sheeple) have no legitimate options. Your tea party cost your republlican party an election and has NO CHANCE OF WINNING OUTSIDE OF ITS VERY LIMITED BOUNDARIES. True leftiies (like myself) can’t stomach the Democratic party and HAVE NO CHANCE OF SEEING A SOCIAL DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. Democrats and Republicans play with themselves (arguing politics) … Obama is Bush III and Bush IV … If you manage to beat Hillary in 2016, you’ll have Bush V and maybe VI … but you’ll also have a 0.025% running things by then … and it won’t make a difference how many state elected officials gain office from anywhere on the political chart.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          If the government did not have the monopoly on violence to protect the 1%, you would not be complaining about them, because they would have been policed by now.

        • You know Charlie-if this is how you feel-then the only reasonable conclusion for you to come to is No government-anarchy. But you know that isn’t gonna happen so you are pretty much stuck with the reality that no system we follow is going to be perfect. So we’re left with trying to find the best system. And that is Capitalism with a much smaller and less powerful government in order to fight against Crony Capitalism.

          Did you listen to the video I posted up above-here I’ll re-post it here-it shows pretty clearly that we don’t argue against many of your complaints-we agree with them-we just reach a different conclusion. I’m interested in what you think about the mans arguments.


          • VH, I agree … “But you know that isn’t gonna happen so you are pretty much stuck with the reality that no system we follow is going to be perfect.”

            I NEVER claim socialism or any form of social-democracy would be anything close to perfect … but I am more interested in protecting workers than I am the private property of the 1% (and their ilk) … So long as we accept the inquality in profits to actual work, no system will work. Many here point to the 1% and defend them on the basis of the taxes they pay, completely ignoring the profits they reap (and without having to do the bulk of the work–they are owners, investors, etc. … not assembly line workers, teachers, cops, plumbers, farmers, etc.) … I say it has to start with changing an economic system that fosters such corruption (that in fact, makes it the only sensible thing to do for those who have the wealth–why shouldn’t they try and protect it?) … it just so happens that I fall on the side of the working class … and I don’t believe they have a right to reap the profits without actually “earning it” … but you’re right, as I’ve often stated with the Colonel, we’re probably a lot closer than many in here think. I’m no advocate of welfare for the sake of it … but where I am a statist is this: those on welfare should be temporarily sterilized — not permitted to have kids they can neither afford or know how to raise … but that is a direct infringement of rights (and I can more than live with it–don’t see any other solution to the problem) … so it goes.

            • Not at all sure how one can protect the property of some without protecting the property of all. but now you must excuse me, an emergency has arisen-I must put my eye balls back into there sockets-sterilized-really-and you talk about the abuse of power.

              • So, what, a monarchy it is? It’s what you have now, except for one king (which it’ll eventually lead to, it’s a committee of them). How’s that working for you?

              • It’s not working well, which is why we want to limit governmental power, which will limit the power of the corporations and the lobbyists. You somehow believe you can increase that power and use the same corrupt power base to level the field. Yet, they are the elitist and they are the lobbyist and they are a part of those big big corporations that get governmental handouts and advantages.

    • “NOBODY DESERVES THAT KIND OF MONEY IN MY AMERICA”, good thing we don’t live in your America. That kind of totalitarian authority leads to dark times.

      • Nonsense.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Hey Grandpa 🙂 I’m very happy for you and you should celebrate! Cheers!

          I do agree that this much money in payment is silly, but, as long as they have customers who do business with them to allow it, then nothing can really be done. If you want this to stop, out them loud and clear. The customers will decide if it’s too much money, if many leave, those kinds of payouts will end. Ultimately, the fault lies with the customers, because if I was one, I would demand lower prices or fees or take my business elsewhere.

          NOBODY should ever have the power to decide what other people deserve or need. That indeed will lead to dark times. Don’t believe me, please read up on Stalin’s Communist Russia. He had the power and you know what happened. Now, go stand in the corner for 3 minutes (SUFA penalty box), then resume celebration 😆

          • I’ll stand in the corner on Stalin if you stand in the corner on what the US&A did to native Americans and blacks (slavery) … but I’ll keep celebrating either way.

            And you’re wrong about need … wealth at the 1% (and much lower) has NOTHING to do with need … it’s all about POWER.

            • gmanfortruth says:

              Let’s hope we never see the past return like all of those historical bad things. The POWER is what is going to cause our future problems, and it isn’t just American rich.

              • You’re right, it’s global now … the 1% committee may be grander in scope, but it’s power is consolidated day-by-day … it’s time to take it back. nationalization, baby! 🙂

              • gmanfortruth says:

                Brilliant! Let’s give the corrupt government that is bought and paid for by the 1% even more power 🙄 You do realize that you are totally contradicting everything you have said today with one word? 😉

  33. Hehe he

    Cuomo: That gun law I signed turned out to be utterly unworkable, huh?
    posted at 9:21 am on March 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

    If Andrew Cuomo has truly had an epiphany about his approach to gun regulation, it’s not really evident from this admission. The New York Times reports that Cuomo will now try to rush some changes into his banner gun-control legislation that forced New York gun owners to use magazines that no one manufactures, with even the one exception to the rule found to be unworkable (via Legal Insurrection):

    In the wake of the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn., Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York pushed through the State Legislature gun control measures that included not only a tougher assault weapons ban but also a tighter restriction on the maximum legal capacity of gun magazines.

    But after weeks of criticism from gun owners, Mr. Cuomo said on Wednesday that he would seek to ease the restriction, which he said had proved unworkable even before it was scheduled to take effect on April 15.

    The gun-control law, approved in January, banned the sale of magazines that hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. But, Mr. Cuomo said Wednesday, seven-round magazines are not widely manufactured. And, although the new gun law provided an exemption for the use of 10-round magazines at firing ranges and competitions, it did not provide a legal way for gun owners to purchase such magazines.

    Now, one might think that after having been embarrassed by his own ignorance — and in the face of a number of critics who pointed these issues out from the beginning — Cuomo would advise the legislature to repeal the bill and start over again. One would be … wrong. This New York governor has decided to correct one idiocy with another, emphasis mine:

    As a result, he said, he and legislative leaders were negotiating language that would continue to allow the sale of magazines holding up to 10 rounds, but still forbid New Yorkers from loading more than 7 rounds into those magazines.

    Er, what? Will the police be around to check how many bullets are loaded into each magazine? And, by the way, will criminals be deterred from loading rounds 8, 9, and 10 into the magazine? The whole idea of magazine limits is to limit those with criminal intent from firing too many bullets without having to reload, at which point the law expects the disarmed to rush the criminal rather than shoot back and hope he’s worse at reloading than they will be at beating someone into submission. How will Cuomo’s latest idea deter criminals, who will have zero fear of having a gun inspection before committing their crimes?

    “Hey, let’s go rob that bank. Get your guns ready, and — oh yeah, don’t load more than seven bullets into each magazine.”

    Furthermore, if that kind of restriction was at all useful, then why pass a law forbidding 15-round or 30-round magazines at all? Just pass a law that says no one can load more than seven bullets into the magazine, and voila! Problem solved, right?

    William Jacobson calls this new idea “irrational and arbitrary.” It’s also dumber than a box of rocks, and anyone with a hint of self-awareness would have realized it before the press release went out.

  34. All these stories are about a man who did inconcievably evil things but Do not allow yourself to believe that is all they are-they are a true representation of partial birth abortion and late term abortion without using the illusion that it makes a difference because the baby is partually in or completely within the womans body. It in reality is the true face of abortion.

  35. I am so disgusted by ‘The Amazing Race’ on CBS that I may not watch CBS at all any longer. The last episode in Viet Nam was utterly and disgustingly Unamerican that it should be taken off the air permanently and CBS should make a public apology to the people of America. The producers of this already STUPID show should be FIRED!

  36. Wow-the idea came from a textbook-so it must be a good idea. Oy Vey

    Florida Atlantic Univ. student claims he was suspended for not stomping on Jesus [VIDEO]
    By Eric Owens 8:58 AM 03/21/2013

    A student at Florida Atlantic University has charged that his professor in intercultural communications class told the whole class to write the name JESUS in bold letters on a piece of paper, then drop the papers and stomp all over them.

    The alleged incident happened three weeks ago on the Davie, Florida campus of FAU, according to WPEC-TV. (Scroll down for the video.)

    Junior Ryan Rotela, a devout Mormon, is the student making the charge.
    Ads by Google

    “Anytime you stomp on something it shows that you believe that something has no value,” he told the South Florida CBS affiliate. “So if you were to stomp on the word Jesus, it says that the word has no value.”

    Some students stomped; others, including Rotela, didn’t. He said he told the instructor, Deandre Poole, that the assignment offended his religious convictions.

    Two days later, the junior alleges, he went to an FAU school official to express his unease with the assignment.

    The result? Rotela has been suspended from the class.

    An FAU official defended the decision, telling WPEC that the Jesus-stomping was part of a classroom exercise from a textbook: “Intercultural Communication: A Contextual Approach, 5th Edition.”

    Read more:

  37. gmanfortruth says:
  38. gmanfortruth says:

    This Cyprus thing may be much bigger than anyone thought.

    Today legendary trader Jim Sinclair told King World News that Lagarde’s IMF Cyprus disaster, in stunning fashion, has now forced Chairman Ben Bernanke out of the Fed. Sinclair, who was once called on by former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker to assist during a Wall Street crisis, takes readers on a trip down the rabbit hole that has become know as “The Cyprus Catastrophe” in this extraordinary and exclusive interview:

    Eric King: “Remarkably, just a day and a half ago you stated on King World News that ‘Putin has faced down the International Monetary Fund, which by the way is located in Washington, DC, and is in fact Washington itself. So in the sense of a Cold War, you have Washington vs Moscow, and Moscow won this round. The bottom line here is Lagarde took on Putin, but Putin has checkmated both her and the IMF the same way a Russian grandmaster chess player would destroy his opponent.’ Within hours of KWN reporting that news, Lagarde’s apartment was raided by police and she is now scrambling.”

    Sinclair: “The important point is, how long has this case been going on in which there was a police raid on the Lagarde’s apartment? This is a 20-year old case, making it look a little less like just a coincidence. I would also add to that I don’t think it’s any coincidence that the Chairman of the Federal Reserve has now indicated the possibility that he will not be reappointed, and that he will not accept the reappointment….

    “In truth, the IMF disaster which has just taken place in Cyprus is comparable to the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand that started World War I. This is a major event in history. We have the mainstream media and some talking heads telling people that ‘Cyprus is a tempest in a teapot.’ That is completely false.”

    Eric King: “This IMF disaster which has occurred, and obviously Lagarde is now being dealt with, but going forward you talked about the possibility of destabilization in the Western world. You are saying they can’t make a misstep here, and what about this Bernanke development?”

    Sinclair: “The gamble was they were going to shift the onus of the funds required from the busted banks to the depositors and away from central banks. That would have been to the depositors, and away from QE. This is also being proposed in New Zealand and in Spain, but in tiny, negligible amounts. Obviously no amount of theft is acceptable, but the theory coming out of Cyprus was a 10% theory, and that is enormous money.

    It was a historic mistake because what Mrs. Legarde and the IMF have done is potentially ruined all of Bernanke’s work. It has also potentially ruined all of the work of the central banks which have been doing QE in order to maintain sovereign solvency.

    If she (Lagarde) had succeeded, the ease would have been to the governments, and the pressure would have been to the depositors. Up to now what has been done is to insure the bank depositors without them having to lose. This was the ‘Super Glue’ to hold together the possibility of an economic recovery. That’s what has been put into risk because of this debacle by Mrs. Legarde and the IMF in Cyprus.

    This police raid and the 20-year old case is tied directly to her colossal failure in Cyprus. It is also directly tied to Bernanke’s indication that he wouldn’t seek to be Chairman of the Federal Reserve after his term is up.

    Again, what the IMF’s catastrophe in Cyprus has done is put into jeopardy every single dollar that any central bank has put in to maintain sovereign solvency. This is enormous. The IMF originally telling Cyprus to ‘Go to hell,’ has in fact said to the world, ‘Go to hell.’ The Western financial world may now indeed go to hell, and Fed Chairman Bernanke knows it.”

    Eric King: “Just so I understand this, the degree of damage that has been done because of the IMF disaster in Cyprus now has Bernanke saying, ‘I want out.’”

    Sinclair: “This historic event is one of the single largest and most important in my 50+ years of being involved in markets. It is as serious as what I have said, and the Chairman of the Federal Reserve is saying, ‘They are going to screw up all of my work; to hell with them, I don’t want to be Chairman when this hits the fan.”

    UPDATE – The KWN audio interviews with Michael Pento, MEP Nigel Farage, billionaire Eric Sprott and the former US Treasury official Dr. Paul Craig Roberts are available now and you can listen to them by CLICKING HERE.

    © 2013 by King World News®. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. However, linking directly to the blog page is permitted and encouraged.

    • gmanfortruth says:
    • I think I understand most of this-But what 20 year case and on what basis did they do a raid on her apartment??

      • gmanfortruth says:

        I’m still looking for the answers myself.

        • Okay, here’s information on the raid, it isn’t based on her actions as head of the IMF-but obviously some think the timing of the raid isn’t a coincidence. Trying to remove her as head of the IMF maybe?

          • Oooops-here’s the information.

            French police raid IMF chief Lagarde’s apartment

            Police have raided IMF chief Christine Lagarde’s Paris apartment. She is under investigation for her role in the Tapie-Adidas settlement case during her time as finance minister. Critics have accused her of corruption.

            Following news of the search on Wednesday, Lagarde’s lawyer told news agencies that his client was innocent.

            “This search will help uncover the truth, which will contribute to exonerating my client from any criminal wrongdoing,” attorney Yves Repiquet told the news agency Reuters, among others.

            Lagarde was reportedly in Germany at the time of the raid on her Paris home.

            Authorities entered her residence to search for information relating to her involvement in a high-profile settlement case that left French politician, Bernard Tapie, with hundreds of millions of euros.

            After buying Adidas from then state-owned Credit Lyonnais, Tapie had sought compensation from the state, arguing that Credit Lyonnais – which later collapsed – had defrauded him by purposely undervaluing the sportswear company at the time of sale.

            In 2007, then French Finance Minister Lagarde deferred the case to a panel of judges to settle the matter. Tapie then received 285 million euros ($368 million) in the settlement, a sum which shocked France.

            Critics have accused Lagarde of abusing her power to benefit Tapie, who was a supporter of then President Nicolas Sarkozy.

            Lagarde has denied the allegations.

            The International Monetary Fund (IMF), where Lagarde currently acts as head, declined to comment on Wednesday. However, IMF spokesman, Gerry Rice, reiterated the organization’s confidence in Lagarde to continue leading.

            “As we have said before, it would not be appropriate to comment on a case that has been and is currently before the French judiciary,” said Rice.

            “Prior to its selection of the managing director [in 2011], however, the IMF’s Executive Board discussed this issue and expressed its confidence that Madame Lagarde would be able to effectively carry out her duties as managing director.”

            Lagarde, 57, took over the helm of the IMF in 2011 after France’s Dominique Strauss-Kahn resigned amid allegations of sexually assaulting a hotel maid in New York City.


            • gmanfortruth says:

              V, I have heard from many people in the economic and intelligence world who have said that they (the Central bankers) will collapse the system in order to bring in a new, one world system (so they say). I have no doubt that they need a patsy, and may have her.

  39. gmanfortruth says:

    And the Democrat ideology keeps floating to the top. How do these people stay in office if not for fixed elections?

  40. gmanfortruth says:

    I do believe that Biden is calling the voters stupid!

    In introducing Biden, Bloomberg noted that the vice president has pushed for a number of proposals to reduce gun violence, including reinstating a federal assault weapons ban, a limit on how many bullets can go in a magazine clips and universal background checks for gun sales.

    Biden said recent polling data he’s seen has shown Americans already think the new restrictions are in place.

    “Combined, these are commonsense approaches, that ironically, Mr. Mayor, in the polling data we’ve done recently — the American people already think that these gun safety proposals are in place,” Biden said. “The American people — a significant number — already think that universal background checks … they already think that anyone buys multiple guns has to be reported.

    “So the irony here is what we’re proposing is common sense, that the American people … says ‘Guess what, we think you’ve already done that.’ ”

  41. @ VH … you say: “It’s not working well, which is why we want to limit governmental power, which will limit the power of the corporations and the lobbyists.”

    If you believe that, you probably believe in the easter bunny … corporations and lobbyists ARE THE GOV’T. OY VEY, VH.

    You’re doing what G does now … either misquote me or … I’m not being clear .. 🙂

    • My point being, VH (regarding issue 2) … I wouldn’t expand THIS government … i’d have them all shot first. I want genuine representation … from workers as well as professionals … with caps on income that permit a more equitable society .. becuase I DO NOT BELIEVE IN CAPITALISM!!!!!!!!! 🙂

      • gmanfortruth says:

        Charlie, that bag of hammers clanking around in your head surely understands that all governments eventually become corrupt. You know this is part of the world’s history, yet you still want it. What you want has already failed miserably and that wanting an equitable society will never happen, it has never happened, and it will never happen! You also know why. So please, come back to earth 🙂

      • I am not at all sure you do not believe in Capitalism-I think you have just said it so many times you believe it. Are you against corruption or freedom Charlie. Because your idea of fixing corruption will lead to no freedom at all. Which I personally don’t think will be much help for the worker.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        And we do not have Capitalism in this country. With all the regulations it’s much closer to fascism. It certainly isn’t free market. You are a hard headed knuckle dragger, aren’t you 😆

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Whatever you do, don’t home school your new grandchild, she’d be ruined for life 🙂

    • Which is exactly what I said-it is the collusion between the two that has to be outlawed not freedom.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Charlie, we can agree what the government is. It’s a circle jerk between banks to government then back to banks. We can also agree they all need removed and tried for treason (or worse). While the events leading to that may be coming soon, you and I will not likely be part of the solution. That may or may not be a good thing 🙂

  42. Charlie, at this point I have said everything I can think to say-Just do me a favor-sit down and think about this question seriously for a little while. Go back and listen to the video if you need to hear my basic argument- 🙂 though you’ve heard it so much I imagine you could resite it back to me.

    Are you against corruption or freedom?

    • VH, I hear you … I can’t listen to that idiot, but I cannot believe for a second in your equation (corruption or freedom). That’s just nonsense. If that were the case then YOU would be an anarchist. This is the ONLY issue where I respect BF … under your hypothesis, accepting ANY form of government (no matter how small) would be accepting a loss of freedom … and that’s just absurd. I understand how corrupt ALL forms of government are … I’m not that dense to assume socialist regimes are any less corrupt than those supporting capitalism (no matter how “truly free” a market is) … but I want to see more people involved in the equity this life has to offer and I cannot accept that people can actually “earn” absurd profit ratios, especially when they do not (or hardly) participate in the production process … maybe we just agree to disagree. I don’t have a problem with that.

      • We will agree to disagree 🙂 Besides I have finally figured it out-nothing-no argument will separate you from your main objection-obnoxiously large pay checks.

        • When I think about it, I think you’re right. It is a focal point of my issue (the totally underserved payouts/profits some get at the expense of others) … which also applies to athletics, by the way … money has pretty much ruined all (or most) sports for me … but it’s difficult to try and resolve … back when the owners had ALL the power and would reduce Mickey Mantle’s pay check because he didn’t win the triple crown 2 years in a row and they’re attitude back then is what Bush-Obama have left workers today (you don’t like the low wages, take a hike), players were screwed … now the players have close to equal leverage and that has completely ruined the game … greed on both ends of the situation.

          • gmanfortruth says:

            The NFL, about the closest thing to what you want, and yet you are still not happy 🙄 I get the feeling that it really isn’t about the lowest wage earners in a company vs. the highest (inequality), this is all about Charlie. You really don’t believe the housekeepers should get paid the same as the brain surgeon, unless your the housekeeper. It won’t matter soon, because no one will have any money.

            • Oh, God, G … try and stay out of it … you make less sense with each post. The system that permits owners to abuse players (as they did until there was a union in place) is the same system that now allows the players (via their unions) to abuse the paying customers (and in the process, ruin the game) … take off the blinders, my man … it couldn’t be more obvious. I’m not JUST FOR THE PLAYERS/UNION, you putz … (let me smile now so you aren’t offended) …:) … that was a smile if it doesn’t show … it’s about equality, trying to get as close as possible to it. No, housecleaners shouldn’t earn what brain surgeons earn … but brain surgeons shouldn’t earn 100x’s what housecleaners earn … not if, say, 5 x’s what a housecleaner earns is enough to provide them with a good life. That way the housecleaner has a shot at having a decent life as well … too radical? Tough shit 🙂

              • gmanfortruth says:

                Actually, it’s tough shit for you, because it isn’t happening that way and it never will, Putz 🙂 Haven’t we gone over this before? Yes, we have. No place in the world exists as you would like it.

                I agree that the NFL is too expensive for most to see a live game. The high cost of entertainers, of all sorts, are getting out of hand. The good thing about all of this is it can change. No crowds at NFL stadiums, that will lower the price fast because they are a big part of the whole thing. Wanna stop paying 20 Million to Tom Cruise, stop going to the theaters and wait for the movie to hit TV. His price tag will come down quickly.

                I would bet that if one followed some of the hardcore “equality” types, one would find that they are as much a part of the problem as everyone else. You can change things, but claiming a higher power to take it by force is theft. You want to take the 1% out of the government decisions? Remove the current government, replace, then take all their power away. If there is no power to corrupt, there will be no corruption. I know this won’t work for you, because you think you need government protection from the 1%. You can’t have both, so pick you poison, Knuckle Dragger 🙂

      • Just to clarify Charlie-I wasn’t saying you have to choose between corruption or freedom.

  43. gmanfortruth says:

    Not a big shock here, but, He is beginning to show his true colors.

  44. gmanfortruth says:
  45. gmanfortruth says:

    This has not been verified. But to be honest, it’s something I have expected to occur at some point. Time will tell!


    Just received a call from a highly agitated bank manager who stated that within 60 days, banks will be greatly reducing their hours, days of operation, amount of withdrawals and a requirement to fill out “paperwork” if the amount is questioned by bank officials. Unless the form is completed, money will not be disbursed. What really irritated this manager is that after hearing our statements on the air, and receiving years of assurance that our positions and contacts were so much bravo sierra, now he hears from corporate people that it is apparently true after all. He said, “screw them, grab the money while you can.” The parameters given were banks open two days a week for four to five hours with below minimum staffs, increased security and greatly reduced amounts of actual cash in the vault. Amount of withdrawal will be held to $500-2000 per day per customer account–not customer. So my account could only have either my wife or I withdraw, not both. That level could change at ANY time. There is no plan (at least known) for automatic confiscation from accounts–yet, and he said that the banks hold the “ownership” authority and final disposition of any items found in safety deposit boxes. (surprise, surprise!) Withholding mortgage payments could result in expedited (30) day foreclosures and 15 day Sheriff’s locks on your front door.
    The Federal Reserve could and will initiate other more draconian restrictions on all aspects of “private” banking and access to any property held by banks. It could include forfeiture of your primary (paid for) residence if your summer cottage has a mortgage and you fail to pony up to keeping it current or any forthcoming restrictions on your accounts.
    Clearly, the only option is to close accounts or only keep funds that can be paid instantly to keep electric, water, or other critical accounts paid. Cash will be drying up—so, unless people hold precious metals, bullets (the new currency) or medicines, etc., you are screwed. Barter will be king. As the Colonel said yesterday, “the universe is contracting into the black hole. There is no way to escape its pull.” (Political/economic/social order black hole) Received at 1545 hours
    20 March 2013
    The Lawman

    Mar 20, 2013

  46. There are certainly problems on the horizon. Iran is going nuts. North Korea releases new rhetoric daily as it seems. Syria is using chemical weapons. Finally the US is having it’s own domestic problems. We’re in for some times ahead…that is for sure.

  47. gmanfortruth says:

    The Pelosi Stamp

    The Postal Service created a stamp with a picture of Nancy Pelosi.
    The stamp was not sticking to envelopes. This enraged Pelosi, who
    demanded a full investigation.

    After a month of testing, a special commission presented the following

    1) The stamp is in perfect order.

    2) There is nothing wrong with the applied adhesive.

    3) People are spitting on the wrong side

  48. gmanfortruth says:

    Are illegal immigrants being recruited as an internal Army? The DHS purchases may have a reason after all!

  49. @ Anita: Proud moron here! I’ve been called worse Poppa Stella. Please explain to the class exactly what economic condition, or exactly which 1%er has caused you to fail to get rich. Did capitalism fail you personally? Or did Trump steal your paychecks? And why did they pick on you instead of Steve Jobs, Michael Jordan, or Sarah Palin(aaaaaaaaaahahahaha, gotcha there!)?

    Oh, Anita, my love … not EVERYBODY wants to be rich … it’s not about BEING RICH … you all need to get over that absurd theory … it has to do with inequality in profit vs. work … capitalism never failed me personally … I did quite well as a loanshark/bookmaker … I did quite well when I worked 2 and 3 jobs … I do quite well now … it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ME PERSONALLY AND/OR BEING RICH OR WANTING TO BE RICH … SWEET JESUS ON A VESPA!!!!

    It has to do with equality of opportunities to live with dignity (health care, education, jobs, etc.) … there’s NO WAY Donald Trump “earns” his share of the profits of his daddy’s investments and/or those he makes … you can’t “earn” off investments at the expense of everybody working in his buildings … i.e., he didn’t build Trump Tower (construction workers did) … he gets an absurd % of the profits while the workers get an income … his profits go on forever … there’s do not … he doesn’t need that amount of wealth (which he then uses to corrupt government officials) … why is this SO HARD FOR ALL A’YOUS TO SEE? You blame government, yet excuse the clowns who corrupt them. They (the 1%) have you brainwashed against your own interests … scary.

    • And this is the flaw of socialists and lefties like you charlie: “you can’t “earn” off investments at the expense of everybody working in his buildings”

      Do you know what unemployment would be if no one invested money? How many of those workers in Trump’s building would be employeed if Trump did not invest and risk his money? Don’t you think those that risk thier money to invest in their business, someone else’s business or someone else’s idea deserve to earn something for the oppertunities they have created?

      “You blame government, yet excuse the clowns who corrupt them.” False. I blame large corporations like GE who take tax payer money while earning billions in profits. What you fail to understand that GE creates jobs with or without the government handouts, so why not stop the handouts and let GE pay it’s fair share?

      It is government that gives these corporations the oppertunity to buy power, take away that oppertunity is the first step. You fallacy is to think you can get rid of the rich people and then no one will take advanatage of the power buying oppertunity, do you not see where that fails?

      • Oh, god … shoot me now 🙂

        • Come on charlie, you can do better that. Don’t shut down your brain now, it is starting to work. What is wrong with what I said above?

          • FL … why does investment HAVE to come from individuals? Hasn’t the state (or a collective of people) constructed buildings? Doesn’t the government hire construction companies to build what they need? We don’t need private investors … we can do it collectively. It’s not about getting rid of rich people … it’s about making our economy more equitable for a longer life. Look at that video clip again regarding income distribution in America today. Do you really think it’s ever going to reverse itself? Do you think it would be better without government? This is where capitalism led us to … this is the result of capitalism. This is the result of what money can buy (this government) … I can’t (nor will I) repeat myself again on this topic. 🙂

            • The state can do nothing with the contribution of individuals. The problem is that if I don’t want to contribute to your pet project, leftiest like you get the government to FORCE my contribution. That is totalitarianism.

              1) Do you really think it’s ever going to reverse itself? Why do we need to reverse the trend?

              2) Do you think it would be better without government? If you view the problem as getting worst and we have had continue growth in government intervention, why do you think more goverment involvment would make it better?

              The only way government can solve your percieved problem of income equality is through socialism or totalitarianism, which do you support?

              The biggest left wing lie: “This is where capitalism led us to … this is the result of capitalism.”

              The truth is that we are in the situation we are in currently because of government controlled crony-capitalism.

              It amazes me how the left uses the government to corrupt capitalism and then says that it is capitalism that has failed. Thats like someone shooting you in the gut and then blaming you for loosing too much blood for your death. If government took the gun away from the head of capitalism we would see another economic boom, but leftist will never allow that to happen because it would prove them wrong.

              “I can’t (nor will I) repeat myself again on this topic.” I know it is easy to close your eyes and your mind to knowledge to make yourself accept a false premise, but I beg you to think for yourself. I do not want to beleive you are so narrow minded that you will ignore reality so that you can continue your support for failed policies. I have faith that you are smart enough to know the truth when you see it. Come on Charlie, wake up… you know you want to, now is the moment to do so. No one will make fun of you or push you away, we will welcome you wiht open arms as a fellow patriot of America.

              • Only so far because I have the time to play today …

                “The state can do nothing with the contribution of individuals. The problem is that if I don’t want to contribute to your pet project, leftiest like you get the government to FORCE my contribution. That is totalitarianism.”

                It’s for the greater good. If you can’t see yourself in that grouping, feel free to leave (and trust me, that’ll happen a lot sooner than the greater leaving).

                1) Do you really think it’s ever going to reverse itself? Why do we need to reverse the trend?”

                Because we’re fast becoming a feudal state. We’re already a third world country.

                2) Do you think it would be better without government? If you view the problem as getting worst and we have had continue growth in government intervention, why do you think more goverment involvment would make it better?”

                Asked and answered so many times my head will explode. Learn how to read.

                The only way government can solve your percieved problem of income equality is through socialism or totalitarianism, which do you support?”

                Socialism, but I’d prefer social democracy with a severe restraint on capitalism.

                The biggest left wing lie: “This is where capitalism led us to … this is the result of capitalism.”

                The truth is that we are in the situation we are in currently because of government controlled crony-capitalism.

                Bullshit. We’re here because this is what capitalism HAD to lead to (or it wouldn’t have). Oy vey.

                It amazes me how the left uses the government to corrupt capitalism and then says that it is capitalism that has failed. Thats like someone shooting you in the gut and then blaming you for loosing too much blood for your death. If government took the gun away from the head of capitalism we would see another economic boom, but leftist will never allow that to happen because it would prove them wrong.

                It amazes me how stupid a statement you just made continues to be repeated. What’s the government made up of genius? People, right? Who corrupts the people, genius? The left and the right; each side for their own interests, right? Which side do you really think has the power, the one with the money or the one with the numbers? Now, go look at the chart ONE MORE TIME (YOU MORON) and see how one-sided the shift is … MAYBE that will help you see. At this point I doubt it, but what the hell … give it a shot.

                I can’t (nor will I) repeat myself again on this topic.” I know it is easy to close your eyes and your mind to knowledge to make yourself accept a false premise, but I beg you to think for yourself. I do not want to beleive you are so narrow minded that you will ignore reality so that you can continue your support for failed policies. I have faith that you are smart enough to know the truth when you see it. Come on Charlie, wake up… you know you want to, now is the moment to do so. No one will make fun of you or push you away, we will welcome you wiht open arms as a fellow patriot of America.

                If I were half as dumb as you seem to be (I too hold out hope that you’re not this stupid), I’d shoot myself on principal. I have no interest in being an American patriot. National patriotism is an evil concept. It is the root cause of far too many wars. America is no less guilty of imperialism as is/was any other imperialist nation. You can keep the bumper sticker mentality … frankly, it’s where it belongs, near the exhaust. So long as some of the masses join up with the military and go to wars they can’t possibly believe in, we’re doomed. How’s that patriotism working out for you in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.? How’d it work out for you in Vietnam? I understand why so many have joined of late (either financial reasons or brainwashed patriotic reasons). And the 1% is very grateful for their service. Oy friggin’ vey.

            • gmanfortruth says:

              Charlie, do you realize that the questions you ask like these: why does investment HAVE to come from individuals? Hasn’t the state (or a collective of people) constructed buildings? Doesn’t the government hire construction companies to build what they need? We don’t need private investors … we can do it collectively. It’s not about getting rid of rich people … it’s about making our economy more equitable for a longer life.

              This collective stuff that you ask about occurs every single day. A man wants to build a business, he solicits investors for the capital to do so. A small business owner wants to expand, he/she may solicit investors as well, maybe even from family and friends. A larger business that wants to open elsewhere, sells stock to fund it, people buy these stocks and the new location becomes a reality.

              You must have investors, in one form or another. Saying that you don’t is absurd. Please explain how a business is built by the collective without investment. The whole world is waiting with baited breath, Dunce 🙂

    • gmanfortruth says:

      he didn’t build Trump Tower (construction workers did) .. Why do you say dumb shit like this? This is so below your level of intellect. Get real, would you. Of course Trump didn’t “physically” build it, but he paid to have it built. He “PAID” the construction workers to build a big building, that is their expertise. Without Trump’s money, do you really think the building would be there? No, it wouldn’t. Since he PAID for the building, it’s his to do as he chooses. If the construction workers wanted part of the profits, they should have tried to negotiate that in the contract. If they don’t get what they want, they are free to go home and wait for another project.

      Put your Dunce cap on and stand in the corner again 🙂

      • So it was Trump who built that building … all by himself … incredible!

        What a putz … 🙂

        • Gman never said that. You need to put away the strawman and think about what was really said.

          I know it may hurt to use that muscle between you ears since it has not had much exercise recently, but that pain is a good thing. Use that muscle and it will serve you well. The pain will go away once you start using it on a regular bases. 🙂

        • gmanfortruth says:

          I didn’t say that, Obama 🙂 I said he paid to have it built. Those who physically built were provided income in the form of wages for their services. This is called an economic event, it happens all the time Obama. Just like you wanting to build a house, you pay others to build it, and you use it for your purposes. They have no right to anything after it is built. Your sounding more and more like an Obama puppet everyday. Geez, Wise up, Obama 🙂

  50. @ G … oy vey …

    • X 2

    • @ Charlie,

      Who do you blame for this?
      DETROIT (WWJ) – Detroit police say a man who was apparently trying to steal copper from a transformer on a DTE Energy pole was electrocuted.

      Police told WWJ Newsradio 950 that an investigation is ongoing but they believe the 34-year-old man was attempting to remove the copper from inside the pole, located at Putnam and Lawton, near I-96.

      Police said he was then electrocuted by a live wire, causing him to fall off his ladder and be left hanging. He appears to have died sometime overnight

      A DTE crew cut power to the pole and used a cherry picker to bring down the man’s body.

      His name was not immediately released.

      Do a search for man electrocuted stealing copper and see how many stories in different cities pop up. Who do you blame for their deaths? Them? The power companies? The rich for making him poor, forcing him to steal? The schools that failed to educated him thru college with grades that would allow him to get a job on Wall Street?

      How many of those copper thieves did not graduate HS? Why is it everyone else’s fault they can’t get a job with a decent wage? Tell ya what, blame ME! I rarely hire anyone who didn’t graduate or at least get a GED. Every thieving deadbeat in America is my fault. Now excuse me while I go back to work instead of trying to steal from somebody else to provide for myself & family. Think I’ll buy my wife new shoes, just because I can afford to, not because she needs them.

      • PS, may also buy myself something I don’t need….

        • Feel free to shoot yourself with it 🙂

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Thanks for the link 🙂

          • Not you, G … you shouldn’t shoot yourself (yet) … you’re invaluable entertainment for us lefties …

            • gmanfortruth says:

              Thanks Brother, I’m glad I am so well liked. Being a well liked teacher is a difficult venture, now let’s continue with your much needed lesson today 🙂

        • Northville, Mi. Very close. Let me know if I can help with the exchange.

          • Thank you, but don’t think you can help. It would be nice to inspect instead of buying based on what they say, but have had good results in the past. If I win the bid (doubtful), I will pay them & then it ships to a gunshop (FFL) where I pay $20 & fill out paperwork. Would be great if I could run up there for some great lakes seafood, but very behind here at work….

            You could help on the Charlie issue, is his advice on Jimmy Choo shoes good? If so, how does he know so much about women’s shoes? (crossdress much Charlie?)

            • That’s Kathy’s department, not mine 🙂

            • gmanfortruth says:

              charlieopera says:
              March 22, 2013 at 1:57 pm • Edit

              What was it you said the other day, FL … God is the Christ?

              Well, that says enough on its own … but I am the Chuckababe!

              LOI, Good question: how does he know so much about women’s shoes? (crossdress much Charlie?) I think you have outed him, 😆

              • I’m outed … I’m a transexual … I own Jimmy Choo stock … why I want that bozo to not be so cheap and buy his wife’s gifts at Payless … 🙂

      • LOI, are you always a moron or just on Fridays?

        What does a guy stealing copper wire have to do with the guy who owned the plant where the copper wire was made (who earned, say, 1 million for the work he paid his employees, say 20K to perform)?


        I thought you’d be.

        The guy was dumbski and electrocuted himself. His fault for being a dumbski.

        You want to impress me, buy your wife Jimmy Choo shoes …

        • Charlie,

          Impressing you is nowhere on my to do list. Have tried to educate you but you cling to your ignorance and hate with the best of them. Where did the wire plant owner come from? Most wire plants are large corporations, so no rich guy to hate on, just big business, usually union shops at that. (yes, I do KNOW this, been in some plants before & buy a LOT of wire)

          “the work he paid his employees, say 20K to perform”
          For most, pay starts around $18 an hour plus benefits. Pretty good for a HS grad. It goes up with time & skills. The worker could also take night courses, get a degree in engineering, business, etc & move into management & those high wages. But no, in your world, it should just be given to him unearned. And to all his buddies. Great ideal, no problem! Raise the prices from $85 per 1,000 feet to $850 a thousand. Don’t worry about cars now costing $35K instead of $25K. Houses go from $150 to 200K. Don’t worry about the wire maker going bankrupt, so the workers are unemployed instead of making a miserly $38K. China would be happy to endorse the Charlie plan and make all our wire and everything else. But then, when nobody in Charlies America works, how do we pay China?

          “LOI, are you always a moron or just on Fridays?”
          Sure, insults when you don’t have a good answer. Makes me wonder, how many books have you sold there, smart guy? How long to write one? Whats your return on investment? Figure the labor vs return, you might be loosing money, not making any….

          • LOi, charlie can’t take credit for written any books, some teacher taught him how to write and shoudl be able to take credit for those books.

            Charlie, how much do you pay that grade school teach that had to put up with you as a student and tauight you to write? Do you also send a portion of your income to the Chineese worker that made that computer you use to type out the books? Or to Al Gore for inventing the internet that you use to transmit your manuscripts? Where’s my cut for paying for the roads that you use to ship your books to the one store that carries it? I hope you don’t even bother to put your name on the book cover, you didn’t write that book, the US Government did through the forced contributions to your education.


          • FL Patriot … you’re absolutely right regarding books. FACT. No argument here. I don’t need to pound my chest, brother. I wish I could do all that you list, FL … I have no problem with that. You should get a cut … we all should get a cut of each others productivity … that’s what a community does .. you’ll have to take your sarcastic wit (and I use wit very lightly) on the road, my friend … 🙂

            • gmanfortruth says:

              we all should get a cut of each others productivity … that’s what a community does

              Charlie, Old Friend, this is the case in many ways. 48 million on food stamps, millions living on welfare (and many making more money than me and you), Medicaid, healthcare for the poor paid by other productivity. That what the community does. What more do you want?

              • gmanfortruth says:

                Charlie, you don’t see how others actions benefit you everyday do you? It may not be monetarily, which seems to be your whole mantra. My productivity has benefited you greatly, you just can’t see it through those RED colored glasses. What a shame, cuz your a nice guy for a knuckle draggin Dago 🙂

              • “and many making more money than me and you” … even IF this were the case, why the fuck would you care? Aren’t you happy with your own life (here on SUFA, ugh!) … why do you need to watch what others do? Why can’t you live and let live? Does it really affect YOU so personally?

              • gmanfortruth says:

                even IF this were the case, why the fuck would you care? Because I am productive and those I am supporting are not. Why should they have a free ride?

                Aren’t you happy with your own life (here on SUFA, ugh!) Yes, I am happy with my life, that doesn’t mean it couldn’t be better, I always work to have a better life.

                why do you need to watch what others do? I normally don’t. But if my money that has been stolen supports some people, I should have a voice in the matter. I would expect that you want that as well.

                Why can’t you live and let live? I do. I live deep in the country and mind my own business. I help my neighbors when needed, but ask little in return.

                Does it really affect YOU so personally? No, not really. I have a better understanding of economics to know that those on the govt dole will someday find themselves totally screwed. When the spigot is turned off, which it will happen, then what?

          • What’s the point in answering a moron, LOI, really? See, if you didn’t type out 3 paras trying to convince me how much you’re not impressed, I wouldn’t have to type 2 sentences proving what a moron you can “sometimes” be 🙂

  51. Not political but really interesting. Human body is amazing.

    The Secrets of Breast Milk

    By Nicholas Day


    Posted Wednesday, March 20, 2013, at 4:46 AM

    Mother breastfeeding her child.
    The more we learn about breast milk, the more we learn how much more we have to learn.

    Photo by Endopack/iStockphoto

    When we come out of the womb, we make our way to the breast. We enter the world knowing we’re mammals, with milk on our minds.

    But even as grown-ups, we have never known exactly what’s in that milk—or, as strange as it may sound, what the point of it is. For decades, milk was thought of strictly in terms of nutrients, which makes sense—milk is how a mother feeds her baby, after all. But providing nutrients turns out to be only part of what milk does. And it might not even be the most important part.

    “Mother’s milk is food; mother’s milk is medicine; and mother’s milk is signal,” says Katie Hinde, an assistant professor of human evolutionary biology at Harvard. (She also writes the fascinating blog Mammals Suck, which I suspect is the only place on the Internet where you can fill out a Mammal Madness bracket.) “When people find out I study milk, they automatically think we already know about it, or it’s not important. And I’m like, ‘No, we don’t know about it, and it’s super important.’”

    But first, a disclaimer—because conversations about lactation always seem to require disclaimers, especially if you happen to be someone who will never ever lactate. (I’m pretty sure.) In my new book Baby Meets World, I write about how, contrary to myth, not nursing has never been a death sentence. Hundreds of years before halfway-decent formula, infants were fed gruesome substitutes for breast milk (mushed bread and beer, say)—and although many more died than those who were nursed, many also survived. So the lesson of the new science of milk isn’t that formula is some sort of modern evil. (It isn’t modern or evil.) It’s that milk is really complicated—and evolutionarily amazing.

    Here’s how complicated: Some human milk oligosaccharides—simple sugar carbohydrates—were recently discovered to be indigestible by infants. When my son was nursing, those oligosaccharides weren’t meant for him. They were meant for bacteria in his gut, which thought they were delicious. My wife was, in a sense, nursing another species altogether, a species that had been evolutionarily selected to protect her child. (A relationship immortalized in the paper titled “Human Milk Oligosaccharides: Every Baby Needs a Sugar Mama.”) In effect, as Hinde and UC-Davis chemist Bruce German have written, “mothers are not just eating for two, they are actually eating for 2 × 1011 (their own intestinal microbiome as well as their infant’s)!” That’s what’s meant by milk serving as medicine, and that’s only scratching the surface.

    But Hinde primarily studies the food and the signal elements of milk. “The signal is in the form of hormones that are exerting physiological effects in the infant,” she explains. “Infants have their own internal hormones, but they’re also getting hormones from their mother. They’re binding to receptors in the babies, and we’re just starting to understand what those effects are.”

    Hinde works with rhesus macaques, and she’s tracked the effects of the hormone cortisol in their milk. Cortisol is often thought of as the stress hormone, but its function is far more varied, and Hinde has found that the amount and especially the variation of cortisol successfully predicts how the infant macaques go on to behave. It’s a stunning finding: The composition of early milk seems to mold infant temperament. But—and here’s the twist—the males were much more sensitive than the females. Roughly, the more cortisol, the more bold and exploratory the male rhesus macaques were.

    Such sex-specific variations in milk, possibly “programmed” by the placenta during gestation, may be common. In humans, there’s early data suggesting that mothers produce fattier milk for boys than girls. But that may be only part of the story, as Hinde has found with rhesus macaques. “Just because sons are getting better milk doesn’t mean they’re getting more. It looks like they’re getting very similar total calories.” So why do sons get fattier milk? “In rhesus macaques, daughters stay in their social groups their whole lives,” Hinde notes. “They form a bond with their mother that only ends when one of them dies. So it might be that mothers are nursing their daughters more frequently and that helps establish this bond.” In contrast, the sons end up leaving the group—and fattier milk means they nurse less often, which means they can spend more time playing with strangers, developing skills they’ll need later in life. The milk, in other words, reflects and cements the social structure of rhesus macaques.

    We think of milk as a static commodity, maybe because the milk we buy in the grocery store always looks the same. But scientists now believe that milk varies tremendously. It varies from mother to mother, and it varies within the milk of the same mother. That’s partly because the infants themselves can affect what’s in the milk. “Milk is this phenomenally difficult thing to study because mothers are not passive producers and babies are not passive consumers,” Hinde says. Instead, the composition of milk is a constant negotiation, subject to tiny variables.

    For example, she notes, in humans skin-to-skin contact appears to trigger signals that are sent through the milk. “If the infant is showing signs of infection, somehow that’s being signaled back to the mother and she up-regulates the immune factors that are in her milk. Now is that her body’s responding to a need of the baby? Maybe. Is it that she also has a low-grade infection that she’s just not symptomatic for and so her body’s doing that? Maybe. Is it partially both? Maybe. We don’t know. It’s brand-new stuff.”

    The new awareness of this sort of signaling is why there’s been a paradigm shift in the study of milk. Scientists have gone from seeing it only as food to seeing it far more expansively—as a highly sensitive variable that plays a wide range of developmental roles.

    This new perspective should change how we look at formula, too, Hinde says. Instead of comparing breast milk and formula, we should accept how little we actually know about breast milk. “We need to go back to square one and look at all the variation in breast milk and where it’s coming from and what it does,” she says. “Because how could we possibly know what the difference between breast milk and formula is if we aren’t even keeping track of what the variation in breast milk is doing? And so the more that we understand about what is in milk, and what predicts how it varies, the more opportunity there is for formula to better emulate what breast milk is.”

    Almost 150 years after the first infant formula, the splendidly named Liebig’s Soluble Food for Babies, was proclaimed to be “virtually identical” to human milk, we now know how much we don’t know about milk. It’s a deeply intimate mystery. And the scientists who study it are a lot like almost any parent gazing down at their sucking child: They too are full of wonder.

  52. gmanfortruth says:

    @Charlie, this is a great example how the Left lies to the people.

    This explains how pitiful these people are.

  53. Charlie: “Socialism, but I’d prefer social democracy with a severe restraint on capitalism.”

    We have social democracy with severally restained capitalism and you are not happy with that. Yet you will continue to chase to theory even when that theory in pracitce is causing the problems you complain about.

    It is safe to say that Charlie is ignorant to the meaning and workings of capitalism. I will hold to that instead than the alternative that he is blatantly and knowingly lying just to justify a faild political theory.

    Charlie, if you are unwilling to admit your ignorance there is no hope for you to be cured through education, and there is nothing more I can do for you.

    Side note: Charlie said “We’re already a third world country.”, charlie has obviously never been to a thrid world country. Go visit Columbia, and journy away from the tourist areas and see what a real third world country looks like. The truth is that the poor in America are better off than the middle class in a real third world country.

  54. Our wonderful government-everything they do costs us money-now they are costing us our security-that they say we should rely on instead of ourselves. I’m getting more and more curious-just what the heck is the DHS doing and why?????

    Police Departments Beg And Barter For Ammo While DHS Buys Up 1.6 Billion Rounds In Past Year
    March 22, 2013
    By Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr.
    Subscribe to Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr. RSS
    1169 494

    The nationwide shortage of ammunition has left many police departments scrambling to get their hands on the necessary rounds – with some even bartering among each other.

    Meanwhile, Rep. Timothy Huelskamp (R-Kansas) says the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has failed to respond to multiple members of Congress asking why DHS bought more than 1.6 billion rounds in the past year.

    Police Chief Cameron Arthur of Jenks, Oklahoma says, “Ammunition and assault weapons in general have skyrocketed…In addition to the fact, not only is it a lot more expensive, but the time to get it could be six months to a year, or in some cases even longer.”

    Arthur says he is waiting on an order placed last October and that many departments have begun to trade and barter with each other because of the high demand.

    “Most police departments are having a very difficult time even getting the necessary ammunition for handguns, shotguns and especially rifles,” Arthur said.

    “With the delay in ammunition, some departments are limiting the number of rounds they carry in their handgun because of the shortage of ammunition. We get to the point where it is difficult to have enough ammo to train and also equip the officers.”

    Chief Pryor of Rollingwood, Texas says of the shortage:

    “We started making phone calls and realized there is a waiting list up to a year. We have to limit the amount of times we go and train because we want to keep an adequate stock.”

    “Nobody can get us ammunition at this point,” says Sgt. Jason LaCross of the Bozeman, Montana police department.

    LaCross says that manufacturers are so far behind that they won’t even give him a quote for an order.

    “We have no estimated time on when it will even be available,” LaCross says.

    He worries that when ammunition is finally available the high price will squeeze the department’s budget.

    “The other options are to reduce the amount of training and things like that,” he said.

    The Hamilton County Sheriff’s Department has also cut down on firearm training due to the high cost and low supply of ammunition.

    “The concern over firearms availability and ammunition availability and potentials of gun control certainly has impacted the availability of ammunition purchased locally,” Sgt. Jody Mays says.

    He says the department has cut a third of their normal in service firearm training:

    “It’s forced us…to use ammunition more economically.”

    Police Chief John Mabry in Marinette, Wisconsin says, “Ammo is expensive and lot tougher to get. People don’t have it in stock and it’s back-ordered.”

    His colleague, Menominee Chief, Brett Botbyl agrees: “We’re looking at a four to nine-month wait.”

    Some departments have even applied for grants to pay for the high-priced ammunition.

    “The Florence Police Department is looking for some help filling its clips,” reports

    Chief Tom Szurlinski says the grant would go a long way given the price and limited supply of ammunition.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      V.H. Congress is asking the same thing, why are they doing this? I have posted a lot about what they have purchased. To keep it short, they are getting ready for war, one that they will start, and one they will likely lose. The ammo problem isn’t just because of the DHS, every Tom, Dick and Mary are stocking up as well. If the conflict isn’t obvious by now, it will be soon, cause it’s coming. My only question is simple, Who will be on their side after the first month?

      • I know everybody is stocking up on guns and ammo-but that too is the governments fault. Been reading a lot of articles that are asking the question-why has the left been pushing an assault ban when they know it can’t pass-So I’m wondering was it to cause a run-while they also depleted the available stocks- Are they just trying to run up the price-was it to make it look like they were compromising in order to pass national registration. Are they trying to weaken the local police-what the heck is their reason? Lots of possibilities. Trust is lost-conspiracy theories are running rampant in my head-I just don’t trust them anymore.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          They will never get registration, ever. They can demand it and will be told to jump off a bridge. It is an exercise in futility to try and understand the Left (see Charlie’s posts 🙂 ). I do follow the Conspiracy theories, just to understand what people are thinking. What happens next is anyone’s guess, but I’m betting it isn’t going to be good.

          • I hate to say this, but I predict that the government will get registration. Maybe not this time around, but the next time for sure. If apathy steals another election in 2014 and/or 2016, registration will pass.

            • gmanfortruth says:

              It may very well pass at some point. The problem is enforcing it. I don’t see us getting much further down the road without a major crisis happening, at that point, all these idiots in DC will be in hiding and not heard from much. Interesting times these days!

            • gmanfortruth says:

              I’ve been watching all the things going on in Greece, Spain, Italy, Potagul and now Cyprus. The average person is now screwed, mostly because of govt debt that has grown due to socialist policies. The worse part is that over there, the government can control the people because they are mostly disarmed. That won’t happen here, not without one hell of a fight.

  55. @VH … “What does “Well, that says enough on its own” mean?”

    Blind faith … if one has blind faith in anything, whatever else they espouse requires an extra dose of analysis. That doesn’t mean if you’re religious, you shouldn’t be taken seriously, but when you’re that sure of something (make declarative statements) … well, then … I have to wonder if one’s word has any credibility beyond what I know to be true or false (“nearly” black and white vs. gray).

    • You make the assumption that my faith is blind, when in fact my faith is based in both experiance and observations of reality. I think anyone that ignores the evidence of God all around them lacks all credibility, but I try not to hold that against you charlie when your stated ignorance destroys your credibility enough.

      • Experience? You had a vision? Please, enlighten me. I wanna be just like you!

        • Sorry Charlie, I don’t cast perls before swine. But you are sincerly and honestly interested I would be more than happy to tell you all about it. I will wait to see evidence that you can be sincere and honest.

          • I do have doubts about my atheism, FL … but right now I’m too busy to contemplate beyond the thesis I’m writing for school. (which has a ton of religious based issues in it). Today is a play day at work —not much work, although when I disappear for an hour or two, it’s becuase I’m working (it would take mere mortals hours to produce the same) … I’ll let you know (seriously). I may take you up on the offer.

    • My faith isn’t blind, my friend, you simply cannot see-Yet 🙂

  56. LOI, back when I was a capitalist entreprenuer, my 3rd wife had a closet full of JC shoes … jealous or just stupid?

    Never mind, I know the answer. 🙂

    • So you’re on your fourth wife? Must be the first three didn’t understand you… Couldn’t have been your fault in the least. You ducked any answer on how profitable your writing career has been to date. But I guess that gives us the answer. Not too many are impressed with your words. Any (ex) wives ever say that????

      • It was all my fault … I take personal responsibility 🙂 … my writing career? It’s a hobby. I used to be a very profitable criminal. Now I work as a word processor and write books while finishing grad school. My writing “career” doesn’t earn me enough to live on solo … it supplements some goodies, at best.

        I am published in 5 countries, have 8 books to my name and I’m included in quite a few short story collections (some charitably) but so are thousands of other writers. I’m fine with it, LOI … you seem to be the one having issues.

        I chose to leave all my prior wives … for the record.

        How ’bout your wife, LOI .. .she out there while you’re dicking around in SUFA? Careful now, you don’t really know, do you?

  57. @FL “Jesus is the Christ”

    And I am the Chuckababe … and that much theology is obviously over your head …

    What a putz.

  58. Bottom Line says:


    G – See the smoke? Feel that rumble? Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I’m telling you guys, the the volcano is about to blow, and we need to find a way off of this island!

    FP – I recommend we use the airplane

    V – It doesn’t have any fuel. We’ll have to sail it.

    Charlie – The plane doesn’t float very well, I say we use the freight train.

    FP – That’s a dump truck, you idiot.

    Charlie – No it’s not. It’s a train. You can tell because it has wheels and is made of metal.

    G – Look again, Charlie. Do you not see the bed and tires, gear shift, etc?

    Charlie – Do you not understand that planes don’t float?

    FP – Neither do dump trucks.

    Charlie – It’s a train.

    G – It’s a dump truck, you idiot.

    Charlie – Planes don’t float.

    G – Fine, go ahead and use the ‘train’, Charlie. We’ll use the plane.

    V – The plane might float if we seal the hatch.

    G – We can strip it of extra weight too.

    FP – …and inflate the tires real good too.

    BL – Why don’t we just use the sail boat?

    V – Ain’t gonna happen, BL. It has a hole in it.

    BL – Why not? It’s a boat. We just need to repair the hole.

    G – You’re obsessing over boats, BL. Go get laid.

    BL – I am not gay, Anita is on the other side of the island rolling around on the beach with LOI and getting drunk from fermented coconut milk, and Kathy is nowhere to be found…which leaves V.

    V – WHAT!?!

    BL – I’m only kidding.

    V – …I was gonna say…

    BL – …sort of.

    V – WHAT!?!

    Kathy – I’m right here.

    BL – Are you suggesting…?

    Kathy – No, I am just saying I’m right here.

    BL – Look, never mind all that. Boats were made to float, and it just needs repair.

    V – It doesn’t have any sails either.

    BL – So we make oars.

    V – With what?

    G – He does have a point. But we need patch material and woodworking tools.

    Charlie – Yooz guys are fucking stupid. I’m getting the dump truck ready for sail.

    FP – I thought you said it was a train.

    Charlie – What train do you know of that has a bed and tires?

    G – FP, just let him be. Let the worthless commie try it. It’s easier than hanging him.

    BL – You sure? Muhahahahah!

    JAC – The plane might actually work if we do it right.

    FP – We could cut the wings off too.

    JAC – With what? We don’t have the right tools.

    Kathy – My heels are made of metal. We might be able to perforate them and rip them off.

    JAC – That’s a lot of work.

    G – Do you have a better idea?

    BL – I do, It’s called a boat.

    V – Ain’t gonna happen.

    BL – Not with that attitude it isn’t.

    V – Where’s Flag? He’ll know what to do.

    BL – He’s gone. And he’ll tell you the same thing I am.

    V – What do you mean he’s gone, …and what makes you say that he’ll say what you say?

    BL – Because Flag, the other broken boat, and most of the the patch material are gone.

    Todd – We could build a sandcastle! ..because you’re all assholes.

    BL – WTF does that have to do with anything?

    Todd – Shut up, BL. Coconuts are delicious.

    BL – Whatever, Todd.

    Charlie – Yooz dum fuks, …I’m telling yooz, …use the train.

    G – Make up your mind. Is it a train or a dump truck?

    FP – I thought you said to leave him be.

    G – Maybe I was wrong. I think I’d rather just choke him.

    JAC – Stop it guys. The plane is of sound condition. Yes, it is a plane,…But it might just float. Let’s figure this out.

    BL – Can we not be a team and do this?!? I am telling you, I already thought it out. USE THE BOAT! It’ll work. All we have to do is repair it, …but I can’t do it alone. There isn’t time.

    JAC – And patch it with what?

    BL – The scrap material that Flag left behind.

    V – Is it enough?

    BL – Yes, but just barely.

    Todd – Look! I found a sand shovel!

    Anita – Hey guys! (hiccup).

    LOI – Hey guys. What’s Goin’ on? (hiccup)

    G – We’re trying to find a way to get off of the island before the volcano blows. We have a choice between a plane that we have to figure out how to make float, a broken boat, or a dump truck train (lol).

    LOI – Can we repair the boat?

    BL – Yes. But we’ll have to make oars as it has no sails.

    V – Not really.

    G – Maybe.

    JAC – The plane is intact. We just need to make it float.

    Charlie – Just inflate the tires on the train, yooz jack asses.

    Todd – Look. I found a beach ball too!

    BL – This is bullshit! You people are crazier than I am. Fuck it – I’m going to jump in the volcano.


    Anita – Yeah, what she said (hiccup)

    Kathy – I second…errr.. umm third that.


    (volcano erupts – everyone starts to swim …hours later, Flag floats up)

    Flag – Hey everyone.

    Everyone – Hey Flag.

    Flag – Climb aboard, except you, Charlie.

    V – Thanks, Flag!. …glad you showed up.

    Flag – Why didn’t you just repair the other boat? I left you patch material.

    BL – I told y’all so.


    • 🙂

    • gmanfortruth says:

      😆 The boredom of winter that will never end 😉

      Cyprus update: Hearing that Cyprus’s govt is now back to taxing (stealing) from bank deposits, but now only the bigger deposits. Russia will not be happy. If this happens, banks will die everywhere.

    • That’s very entertaining BL … I mean it. I think you might have something for the right wing rags there … a graphic arts book or something (and I am being serious).

    • LOI and I had that figured out a long time ago but yous wouldn’t listen. So we decided to catch a buzz while we went to find Flag. We had to give up some gold to him for him to come back after the rest of you. So pay up. But since ladies have each other’s backs, V and Kathy get on for free.

    • I only counted (quick look) 8 SUFA members in here … wow, you guys really did take a beating from Obama … 🙂 Even your own have deserted … 🙂

    • 🙂

  59. gmanfortruth says:

    @V.H. Re: Ammo shortage

    If this hits the mainstream media rags, how will the criminal element deal with it? Will it empower them to commit more crimes? The cops are already outgunned by the criminals, this will just make it worse. Does the DHS want this problem to become so big that the people call them for help? Or will the armed citizenry fix the problem the right way?

    • I don’t know G. Time will tell.
      This seems to be the official answer-what do you think-are we over-reacting?

      DHS Denies Massive Ammunition Purchase

      By Elizabeth Flock
      March 22, 2013 RSS Feed Print
      Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., says the Department of Homeland Security was planning to buy 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next five years.

      Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., says the Department of Homeland Security was planning to buy 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next five years.

      The Department of Homeland Security responded Friday to questions from Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., about why the agency was allegedly planning to buy some 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next five years.

      DHS told Whispers it regularly fills all of its goods and services requirements at one time because it’s cheaper for the agency, and that the 1.6 billion number was misleading because the language of DHS’s purchase said it would need “up to” a certain amount.

      One solicitation by the agency—for training centers and law enforcement personnel—was for “up to” 750 million rounds of training ammunition over the next five years, DHS spokesman Peter Boogaard told Whispers.

      Another five-year contract allows for the purchase of “up to” 450 million rounds of ammunition, he said, and was also for law enforcement. Boogaard noted that the contract would be used by all DHS agencies except the Coast Guard.

      “With more than 100,000 armed law enforcement personnel in DHS, significant quantities of ammunition are used to support law enforcement operations, quarterly qualifications, and training, to include advanced firearms training exercises,” Boogaard told Whispers.

      According to a letter to one lawmaker detailing DHS ammunition purchases, the department procured 148 million rounds in 2012.

      Questions over DHS’s big ammunition purchases have been bouncing around the right-wing blogosphere for months. But the story came to a head Friday after a video was posted to the website Infowars of Rep. Huelskamp saying at CPAC that he had expressed concerns to DHS over the purchase but received no response.

      “They have no answer for that question. They refuse to answer to answer that,” Huelskamp said on the video of the purchases. His office told Whispers that he had sent a letter to DHS with his concerns but had not heard back.

      In the letter to DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, Huelskamp wrote that it had “become clear” that DHS was “purchasing vast quantities of ammunition” and that “estimates show that this … would be enough for 24 Iraq wars.” The Kansas congressman also said the timing of the purchase was “of great interest” because of gun control legislation currently being pushed by the Obama administration.

      “The extraordinary level of ammunition purchases made by Homeland Security seems to have, in states such as my own, created an extreme shortage of ammunition to the point where many gun owners are unable to purchase any,” he wrote.

      DHS previously responded to concerns over the purchase voiced by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., noting in a detailed letter sent to the senator’s office in February just how much had been purchased and for what purpose.

      “DHS routinely establishes strategic sourcing contracts that combine the requirements of all its components for commonly purchased goods and services such as ammunition,” a DHS legislative affairs person wrote to Coburn. “These strategic sourcing contracts help leverage the purchasing power of DHS to efficiently procure equipment and supplies at significantly lower costs,” the department told Coburn.

  60. gmanfortruth says:

    I’ve been following this story for quite some time. This is one that I wish were only a Conspiracy Theory, but it’s very real.

  61. @ G:

    even IF this were the case, why the fuck would you care? Because I am productive and those I am supporting are not. Why should they have a free ride?

    Once again, what does you’re being productive have to do with people who chose or are doomed to live in squalor? Why does it bother you if they have a “so-called” free ride. Mind your own business, boyeeeeeeeeee.

    Aren’t you happy with your own life (here on SUFA, ugh!) Yes, I am happy with my life, that doesn’t mean it couldn’t be better, I always work to have a better life.

    Your point? How is your life made better by getting worked up over other peoples’ lives? Think about it, G.

    why do you need to watch what others do? I normally don’t. But if my money that has been stolen supports some people, I should have a voice in the matter. I would expect that you want that as well.

    You normally don’t. Brother, all you do is rant and rave conspiracy theories on this whackjob site 14/7. If you really believe your money has been stolen, go get it back! Take all your fancy weapons and attack the white house. Hell, I’ll cheer you on (from home) … a voice yet, but a non-stop complaining, ranting and often times to the point of insanity … no, take it easy and relax. Enjoy what’s left of your life, boyo. It’s way too short to spend it here.

    Why can’t you live and let live? I do. I live deep in the country and mind my own business. I help my neighbors when needed, but ask little in return.

    Good for you! That’s a model way to live … but then why do you care what goes on in NY? Do you have some vested interest in the killings in Chicago? Does it offend you so much you can’t ignore it when some scumbag scams the welfare system? You’ll live a lot longer ignoring that bullshit. Think about all the money scammed from Wall Street … all we can do is rant and rave and give ourselves headaches. It isn’t going to change, G. Not in our lifetime. Accept it.

    Does it really affect YOU so personally? No, not really. I have a better understanding of economics to know that those on the govt dole will someday find themselves totally screwed. When the spigot is turned off, which it will happen, then what?

    Then they’re screwed! Like you say, “So what?”

    Be cool, brother … 🙂

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I guess your right Charlie. I will pull all my taxes and keep them for myself, screw the poor bastards who don’t want to work. NY, Chicago, Fuck’em all. Let them dumb bastards kill each other off and quit wasting our oxygen. If you really want the truth, and this is the truth for everybody, God, Family and friends are all most of us really have. Outside of that, I really can’t waste my time worrying about other peoples problems. Everyone here are friends, so I’m concerned about their well being. Is that Bad? No, I don’t think so. Even you I hope the best for. 🙂

  62. gmanfortruth says:

    The high price of politicians who want your hard earned money. Let’s keep this mess out of the US!

  63. gmanfortruth says:

    Hey, a teacher actually teaching, get’s shut down!

  64. gmanfortruth says:

    By Jess

    You shout this at the top of your lungs as if you know what it means. Although, if you really are rebelling – that is cutting yourself from the cord of tyrants – you are most certainly not 99% of the population. 99% may not be implementing the agenda of psychopaths, but 99% of us are also not necessarily doing anything about it. If the odds really did add up to that, the real counter-world would not have the challenge we do to get the real 99% away from the plasma screen for more than ten minutes to look at what the government that represent them are doing. They do NOT represent me and they do NOT represent you if you can read this without cognitive dissonance.

    It is an insult to anyone seriously removing themselves from tyranny to put us in league with drooling masses currently paying tribute, working at banks, collecting the government dole, voting for tweedle dee and tweedle dumb. The rest of us have worked hard to break our dependence and that 99% do not deserve the same credit. Those who read into a small fraction of the mystery like the economy or Zionism, and then stop looking as if they’re at the apex of the problem. The truth is that it is not some people in government, it is all government. It is not some people in control, it is the sickness that is the need to control. And your need to be controlled is because you’re too afraid to make decisions for and defend yourself.

    No, I’m afraid that if we were the 99%, the situation would not be so grave. If that great a number were really working against control, we would already be in control of our own lives. Unless what you mean is that 99% of us are neutrally sitting around quoting relatively subversive movies like V or bitching about their money on Wall Street then, my apology, you are the 99%.
    But it takes so much more than that. These bizarre circuses that excite the inherent rebellion in all of us, just enough that you feel satisfied without doing anything about your own livelihood’s dependence on tyranny. The truth is that few of us actually want an end to tyranny because they wouldn’t know where the next meal would come from. This is because they haven’t taken the responsibility to ensure that through their own self worth, not buying power.

    You have a credit card, a mortgage, you have worked for them all of your life, yet you insultingly call yourself the 99% because you can’t get a job in the food court and this is why you repeat these mind numbing memes. The point is not to bring the corporate jobs back. Do you get it yet? The point is to eliminate the need for them. Slaves that first came to this country had the exact opposite problem. Americans are most proficient at this because they have instituted the first voluntary slavery. This degrading work force where you repeat whatever equally mind numbing slogan that your respective bosses tell you to, to avoid the “horrors” of manual labor. The madness continues because we work for them more than we work for the people and ourselves. When we lose the opportunity to support the machine, we complain about not having the boon to mankind that is voluntary wage slavery.

    No, I’m afraid that if you understand this, you are not among the 99% of us!

    The alternative is to work together in a way that soon we won’t need the outside to agree with us. If we can produce our own food and technologies then it will be soon. What they do will not affect us and it won’t be a matter of getting the controllers to stop what they are doing, it will be a mater of continuing what we do for ourselves.

    If you’re in debt, get out of debt soon. It makes no matter how you do that, some may choose to sell their consumer junk to achieve that while others may choose to use a debt cancellation service. Either way, until you get out of debt you’ll still be a wage slave.

    Stop being someone’s wage slave. For some of you it may require that you become SELF EMPLOYED and for others it may mean going off the grid and becoming truly SELF SUFFICIENT!

    Most importantly stop being controlled by the MainStreamMedia and politicians who know all the right buzz words to activate your mind to their benefit.

    Until you become really FREE, all the bitching in the world will only be a pressure release valve that TPTB know only too well how to use and all the bitching in the world will only work to keep you in this rotting corrupt system.

    From the authors of Surviving Survivalism – How to Avoid Survivalism Culture Shock, available at

  65. gmanfortruth says:
  66. gmanfortruth says:

    By applying some old fashioned mathematics, can anyone see the total lies that lie withing the decisions in this article? Those Leftists are so pathetic 👿

    • You spend 20 hours a day on here … have a total (at best) of 8 followers … and we’re pathetic?

      Just kidding, G …. you light up my life, brother … 🙂

      • gmanfortruth says:

        LOL, 🙂 If this dang winter would go away, I would be much happier, and outside. I still have 10 inches of snow on the ground, and another snow storm coming Monday 👿 You can believe me when I say that I really don’t want to be in the house during daylight hours. I’ll take 45 degrees right now, it beats the 20’s.

  67. gmanfortruth says:

    Charlie, Socialism is coming to America, watch this to see how it will happen!

  68. So FLPatriot,
    Do you want to talk about economics and income?

    Have you see the data in income mobility?

    This comment implies you have seen “the data on income mobility.” Where did you see that? Do you have a link? Would you like me to provide you some links?

    • Tood, I’m sure you saw this. If not, it’s worth a look … makes the right cringe …


      • Sorry, Todd, wrong one. This is the video (scroll down once you’re in the link) amazing stuff:

        • Just A Citizen says:


          One of the comments from your posted site mirrors what many of us have been trying to get you to understand:

          Posted on March 6, 2013 at 5:00pm

          I’m not advocating Fascism (Business and Gov working together). I’m advocating a separation of economics and government.
          Once you allow the government to regulate an economy, they have power over companies. The large companies then have no choice but to finance political allies. Then people who like being politicians will make rules who help their financiers. It will naturally lead to Fascism/Socialism/Communism. The big companies just keep getting bigger until they finally become part of the government. The answer is to take the power back from the politicians and give it back to the free market.

          • JAC, this all makes perfect sense. PERFECT sense. Where we differ, I think, is you believe business will handle itself (i.e., the market will handle itself). I believe that those with the most assets (whether big companies, private individuals, or both) will eventually own the government (which they do now — I think you agree). I don’t see how it changes unless the economic system is amended). Giving the power back to the market (as I’ll assume it once was) leads us all right back to where we are now. Why wouldn’t it? I don’t blame (or hate) the wealthy for doing what is natural (i.e., securing their own interests) … I blame the system that permits them to perpetuate their influence via economics. I hope that explains our difference. I think it does.

            • Just A Citizen says:


              I agree to this extent. If we were to restore “free markets” WITHOUT changing the AUTHORITY of Govt then we would eventually find ourselves right back where we are now.

              But it is not changing of the “economic” system which is key. It is changing the “political/Govt” system.

              If there were zero Govt control then some businesses would try to dominate. But history shows us that without Govt power to enforce or help their effort they simply can’t succeed. Not in the long run. Even those Govt supported “monopolies” of the late 1800’s were under attack from competition.

              Besides, you forget that the people are “armed” and would be within their rights to defend themselves against attack by some “corporation”.

              We now have over 200 years of EXPERIENCE with various combinations of Capitalism, socialism, mercantilism, fascism, etc., along with how people have subverted the Constitution.

              So we should be able to take that experience and CHANGE the Govt authority allowed under the Constitution.

              Will this FIX the problems forever? Absolutely NOT. Because IMMORAL men exist and will try to dominate or control others. That seems to be a reality. So they will try to form or change Govt to their advantage. Absent eliminating Govt there is not way to assure a single fix.

              It requires constant attention and action to keep the BEAST caged.

              • Bottom Line says:

                A truly free market offers no real domination, but rather competition.

                In a truly free market, it is a matter of supply verses demand.

                Thus business must compete to supply that which is in demand rather than control it via forceful intervention.

                There is no need to cage the ‘beast’, but empower everyone with the power of the ‘beast’ instead.

                Six people on an island. One has a gun. Who is in charge?

                Six people on an island. Six people have a gun. Who is in charge?

              • Hmmm-JAC-kinda questioning your use of we are armed-when talking about how to fight corporations/monopolies. Brings images of the tactics the unions have employed.

              • JAC, I’m running late this morning … you wrote: “But history shows us that without Govt power to enforce or help their effort they simply can’t succeed.”

                I don’t see it that way. I see unrestricted business bullying all hell out of workers (why unions were forced formed). Yes, the government tends to pick and choose who wins/who loses, but I don’t see how the “government” isn’t acting on behalf of those with the ultimate power ($$$), (i.e., the bailouts of 2007-8). I think it’s because I still see man as inherently greedy why capitalism is so dangerous long term. A group(s) of men remaining vigilant (I agree), could help the cause (not cure it), but they would have to change constantly or be corrupted over time. We’ll all do what’s in our best interests … and some very wealthy people have hearts of gold and are willing to share what they can (or deem appropriate), but corporations are businesses … made up of boards of people (too) … and they have to do what’s in their interests as well … which I see as leading us right back to where we are under the same economic system. The politics may change, but so long as man is permitted to accumulate unrestricted wealth, he/she is granted unrestricted power. I don’t see competition as a way out because the bigger operations will do whatever they need to do to crush the smaller ones. I think believing competition alone will work is too optimistic a view of man’s inherent nature (to hord).

                But I do see why it’s so attractive … in theory it makes perfect sense.

                I’m curious, have you ever watched American History X (different topic, to some degree). I watched it again last night … amazing movie … should be a high school required view. It portrays both sides of the racial coin and I can see “some” here at SUFA applauding some of the views made in the movie.

                I’m off to cook my granddaughter her first eye-talian gravy … sauce to yous nons … 🙂

      • Charlie,
        I hadn’t seen that video. Very interesting – but not surprising…

  69. Just A Citizen says:


    There are 1,426 people on the 2013 Forbes Billionaire list.

    This is an INCREASE of 210 people now worth over 1 billion. This is an increase of 17% of 2012 numbers.

    That is a 17% MOBILITY rate…….. 🙂

    There aggregate net worth is $5.4 Trillion. Got that? Only 5.4 trillion among ALL the billionaires…in the world.

    Oh, this is up from $4.6 trillion in 2012. Most of the wealth increase is due to market and real estate “recovery”.

    The number of WOMEN on the list INCREASED from 104 to 138 (2012 to 2013). An increase of 32.7% over 2012.

    The general global distribution follows:

    USA 442
    Asia-Pacific 386
    Europe 366
    Americas 129 (included Canada, Mexico, Central and South America)
    Middle East & Africa 103

    The WEALTHIEST person in the world is from MEXICO.

    #2 is Bill Gates, #3 is Amancio Ortega from SPAIN, and #4 is Warren Buffet.

    The top woman is Lilian Bettencourt of France at #9 over all. She is worth $30 billion, largely due to increase stock value in her company L’Oreal. She is 90 and currently suffers from dimentia. Her daughter Francouise Bettencourt-Meyers is guardian of the fortune. I expect we will see her daughter inherit her L’Oreal stock. By the way, Lilian’s father was the founder of L’Oreal.

    • JAC,
      So your definition of INCOME/WEALTH MOBILITY is a bunch of multi-millionaires becoming billionaires?

      Do you have stats for any other groups?

    • She gets no sympathy from me. I take a cold sandwich and a piece of fruit for lunch. Maybe if they had to live the rest of us for a while they would start to vote differently. I doubt if she eats in the cafeteria anyway since they also have executive dining rooms in many government installations.

  70. March Madness indeed!

    Hat trick for Michigan today! Spartans and Wolverines both head to the Sweet Sixteen! And our own high school Eagles grabbed the State Class A Championship!


  71. Seems there’s a lot of dissension in the LGBT community.

  72. Wow, if this is legit … then George Zimmerman’s brother has to be friggin’ nuts.

%d bloggers like this: