Open Mic Part 9

Once again, we start anew!   Last night I went back and looked at some older articles to see if we could rekindle some discussions.  I probably read ten or so, mostly on the economy and what the status of the country.  I decided against an old article for now, because what was written doesn’t apply to today.  In fact, what was written has become bigger problems.  The economy is NOT in recovery and while all the Pundit’s say everything is fine and can only get better, many others are saying we are closer than ever, as a planet, to see something Major Depression like in the near future.  Just listen to the Pundits and keep your blood pressure down 🙂   The Feds are preparing for war with someone, my hope it’s for an Alien invasion.  It just sounds better than the alternative 😉  As always, all subjects are open for discussion.



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  2. Chalk up another conspiracy GMan

    By John Vibes

    NEW YORK (INTELLIHUB) — Last week we reported on the suspicious string of apparent suicides that has hit the financial industry. Multiple bankers have been found dead in recent weeks. Those who had high profile deaths, like the man who jumped from the top of the JP Morgan HQ building are highly publicized, but overall, very few details about any of these deaths have been made public.

    Ryan Henry Crane, a 37 year old executive at JP Morgan is the 5th and most recent banker to die in an alleged suicide since January 26th.

    No details have been released about his death aside from this small obituary announcement at the Stamford Daily Voice.

    The string of deaths began on January 26 when a 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, William Broeksmit, was found dead in his home after an apparent suicide in South Kensington in central London.

    The very next day Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym, 51, was found dead on the fourth floor of the Shangri-La hotel in Bangkok.

    Then on January 28, 39-year-old Gabriel Magee, a JP Morgan employee, died after falling from the roof of the JP Morgan European headquarters in London.

    Then last week 50-year-old Mike Dueker, the chief economist of a US investment bank was found dead close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State.

    Were these bankers killed for knowing too much? Were they involved in something so unethical that they killed themselves out of shame? These are the speculations that are rising in the wake of these apparent suicides.

  3. We’ll know there’s a problem when Mathius offs himself 😆

    • Oh, No No No-do not say such things!

    • I PET GOAT II = 666

      Around the 3:00 mark, you’ll notice an upside down pyramid on the evil fucker’s chin, and a “markets plunge” banner running across the eye of the man with the head wound.

      What this essentially means is that hard times are coming because people are stupid and/or evil. Someone knew ahead of time. (But I can already see inaccuracies in their interpretation and/or predictions.) And all the people listed in the credits are also on another list they likely do not want to be on.

      This is the type of thing I am referring to when I speak of “games and bullshit”.

    • Mathius™ says:

      Ain’t happening. I’m going to outlive all y’all.

  4. plainlyspoken says:

    In the “Unusual Story” file:

    Just when we thought we were safe. 🙂

  5. Snow Day!! Woohoo!!

    • That’s a good thing for you city folk. 🙂

      • What’s that supposed to mean!? 🙂

        • Just A Citizen says:

          I think he means “we country bumpkins will just keep on truckin” while you whimpy city folks will get the day off.

          Or maybe, it is “good thing because it would be insane to try and go to work in this weather”.

          Which do you prefer?

          • the latter

            plus, its not like we’re anything like the South which completely shut down from a measly 2 1/2 inches of snow!


            • Hey, lay off the south-we hardly ever have snow-so we choose not to waste money on equipment that would very seldom be used-it is simply more economical to shut down the non essentials for a day or two. Besides snow days are looked upon as a surprise holiday-happy -happy!

              • Come on though, a measly 2 1/2 inches….hours upon hours of traffic jams…people completely stranded….

              • Gotta give you that one-real bad planning, talk about ignoring the weather reports.

              • Folks down south aren’t prepared to deal with snow storms. I lived in Hampton Va for ten years, schools would close at a half inch, the whole place with 2 inches. Nobody knows how to drive well in snow. When I lived down there, we had 11 inches one night and it took 3 days to get back to normal. That’s a dusting here 🙂

        • Buck, LOL! It’s always a safe idea to stay home during a good snow storm in the cities. Traffic just can’t do what is normal, and people really can’t drive very well when it gets slippery!

          I live in the country, haven’t seen the dirt for quite some time. Snow covered roads is normal this time of year for us. While ya’ll need to see pavement to make things work better, we just go on the snow. Snow tires make a difference and that’s what I have on all four tires. I have no problems in a foot of fresh snow, that would shut down your place for a day or more! 🙂

          • Ain’t that the truth — for some strange reason as soon as there’s a single snowflake, nobody seems to know how to drive. Absolutely ridiculous.

            • Yes it is, and rather scary. What happens when a REALLY nasty problem happen? A little snowstorm is nothing, gone in a day. What if an issue like “no power” lasts for weeks?

    • Good move from the looks of it. I haven’t seen grass since before Christmas. Have two labradors who are also tired of dragging their bellies through the snow. Waiting patiently for a warmup next week, temps in the mid 40s are forecast. It will be a welcome flooded mess!

  6. plainlyspoken says:
  7. plainlyspoken says:

    By contrast, U.S. federal law does place restrictions on how tobacco can be packaged and advertised, requiring a large health warning to be displayed on tobacco packaging. Billboards advertising cigarettes are also banned in most states, as are ads targeting young people.

    There is no reason that marijuana advertising should be any different than the restrictions imposed on tobacco advertising. Smoking is smoking – period.

  8. Just A Citizen says:


    Since your home on snow day, perhaps we can finish that discussion about the Constitution.

    Here was my reply to you the other day, to your last question.


    Here is my statement which you addressed.

    ““To rule a State Constitutional provision as Un-constitutional per the Fed Document requires proving that the Fed Document remove the authority for that issue from the States and vested it in the Federal Govt.””

    I stand by “REQUIRES” in the context of the statement I made. And the example you used to challenge this was bad because the 19th amendment does exactly what I am saying is “required”. It “explicitly” removed the authority to discriminate against women voting from the States. And once again, it was the people who made this decision via the Amendment process. It was the people, via this process that decided that voting was a “right” for women as well as men. Just as the people later decided that the right to vote would be extended to “younger” people.

    I thought I stated that the real dispute is over “interpretation” of the 14th. Because that is the only place where the door is opened for Federal authority of State Constitutions regarding Gay Marriage, among other things.

    A “Federal Judge” ruled that “marriage is a civil right”. Tell me where the Federal Judge got the authority to make this determination? And why did Federal Judges not have the same authority regarding a woman’s “right” to vote?

    • I’d have all the free time in the world today….if not for the pile of work sitting to my right, the little one running around like a lunatic, and the dog going crazy with the snow….

      But (and admittedly briefly and inaptly put), you cite to the 19th Amendment on that issue; I cite to the 14th Amendment on this issue. I agree with you that it is the interpretation of the 14th Amendment that matters here. The basic argument here is that the 14th Amendment clearly prohibits the states from denying equal protection under its laws. Any state infringement on the right to marry discriminating against a class of people is therefore unconstitutional.

      Marriage is a fundamental right — it is based on one’s freedom of association and right to privacy. I am pretty sure you have agreed with this categorization of marriage in the past. As we’ve both argued in past discussions on this topic — once the government has decided to involve itself in the marriage business and formally recognize marriage and confer upon a marriage certain special rights, the government cannot discriminate in this manner.

      Which is why I believe we had both agreed that the only real solution is for government to stop recognizing ‘marriage’ in its entirety. Leave ‘marriage’ to a religious institution. Getting ‘married’ gives you the religious recognition of your union. That being said, any two people, whether or not ‘married’ in a religious ceremony, can obtain a civil union license and obtain governmental recognition of their union and the rights/privileges associated therewith.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        “Equal Protection” is based on the concept that the law “protects” certain people.

        So the law must protect everyone equally.

        A marriage license does not afford “protection” this this standard is not applicable. Well it SHOULD NOT BE applicable.

        Which then leaves the theory of “privilege”. Yet what is the privilege directly tied to the marriage certificate?? NONE. It is simply the State’s recognition of the union as a marriage.

        It is the other laws that are grants of privilege that violate the “equal protection” standard. Even though I disagree with the left’s interpretation of the 14th, I will go with it for this argument.

        For example, it is the tax law granting special reductions for “married” people, when “married” in the tax law then refers to State recognized marriage.

        Marriage is a “right” but a “Marriage license” is not a right.

        We have agreed in the past on the reasonable “solution” but I don’t think the Gay community will stand for it. And I doubt the conservative religious groups would either. They think Govt has some vested interest in the FAMILY structure. 😦

        However, I DO NOT agree with how the 14th has been and will be applied to this and other issues. If the interpretation is correct then virtually all authority was TAKEN from the States and a new standard was established for ALL LAWS and REGULATIONS which the people of this country were not aware of.

        The proof in this is that the 14th was not used to over turn many laws more directly in violation of this concept that “Definitions of Marriage”.

        • I think you may be able to get the gay community on board. It may be difficult, but I think it would be possible; definitely don’t see the family values conservatives ever coming to see our resolution as reasonable though…

      • Hooray!

  9. Just A Citizen says:

    I suggest that society has reached a culturally low point when its originality is so depleted it must rely on the past for all new things.

    Notice how many movies and TV shows, and other art forms are just REMADE copies of older works.

    Well we have hit the lowest of the low, because now we can’t even come up with new trash for the tabloids. The slingers of shat are now digging into history to REVIVE old scandals.

    How absolutely sad and pitiful our culture has become.

    Oh, and for those who have missed it. A new “documentary” is coming out REVIVING the Clarence Thomas vs Anita Hill knockdown. The choke hold the propagandists have on us is ever more evident.

  10. Just A Citizen says:

    FACTOID for your amusement.

    In that book I am reading there is much discussion over the deficit and debt during the financial crisis. A point is made several times by the “experts” when trying to figure out what to do.

    I find this interesting and wonder if SUFA will have the same reaction I did. So here it is:

    “MOST” economists agree that a “deficit” of 3% of GDP is …………wait for it……………wait for it………….. “SUSTAINABLE”.

    Maybe Mathius could run a quick formula for us to show what an annual “deficit” of 3% of GDP will look like over time. 😉

  11. I believe we are closer to a big time war with the. Arab world than many think..Especially if ANY of them get the bomb, you know, like Iran.

  12. “[S]ome opportunistic leaders have used the political legitimacy of a popular vote to abuse power, enrich allies, and annihilate the opposition. They’ve won over rural and low-income voters with populist rhetoric and economic enticements. As a result, middle-class elites, who during the Cold War might have pushed back against their authoritarian rulers, are leading demonstrations to topple elected leaders who don’t always look out for their economic interests. Yes, urban voters are appalled by how autocrats have amassed personal power—but that concern is equaled by the less noble realization that the rural populace has become a rival threatening their political and economic clout.”[1]

    Nothing against anyone here, but I doubt most of you could handle an all out Revolution. When the blood starts to fly, which I think is an absolute, what will you do, fight or hide?

    • Why do you think it’s an absolute? You say most of us couldn’t handle it. Don’t you think that confirms that people don’t have the will for an all out revolution? That we’ll avoid that at all costs. Few years ago I was closer to your thinking. Now I’m more with SK. Obama will finish his term and lots of this craziness will begin to be dealt with. I know one thing though, the sites you post links to..they are some angry people commenting there. Anger management is in order or the rest of us are going to end up their targets. They are really looking for a fight.

      • Revolution does not necessarily include violence, but rather enough people unified in demanding change.

        • Well put BL. 🙂

          • I realize that but you’re looking for a gunfight revolution. At least violence, chaos and deaths

            • I have never said that, although I do expect some, it doesn’t have to be a repeat of the 1st one. Much depends on the unknown, like who’s gonna shoot all them bullets the DHS has purchased? How long will they last? Violence can be avoided, by us! I don’t think it will start that way though, but I can’t predict the future either 🙂

              • ” …who’s gonna shoot all them bullets the DHS has purchased? ”

                I am inclined to think they won’t be sharing to much with the general public that paid for them. So, it must be DHS that intends to use them. Any sharing would likely be done between other departments and police.

                I wonder WHY do they need all them bullets? What are they preparing for? What do they know that they aren’t telling?

                Economic collapse maybe? A comet impact or other such large scale disaster? Alien invasion? The Sun explodes for a year and bakes us all alive?

              • All questions we may get the answers too, sooner than later.

      • Why do you think it’s an absolute? Because all Empires end that way!
        You say most of us couldn’t handle it. Don’t you think that confirms that people don’t have the will for an all out revolution? NO, just most, not all. It only took 5% to win the 1st revolution over the greatest standing army of the times! Many, like you, will fight, you just don’t know it yet.
        SK, may be right, but then who comes next? Obama, aka, Stalin?
        the sites you post links to..they are some angry people commenting there. I don’t read the comments very often, but yes, there are some very angry people, and for good reason. But, they are just words. Venting is good. It is not time yet.

        I would not worry. When you get fed up with whats going on you will know we are close. Rely on YOUR instincts, not what others say! 😉

  13. Asking for opinions. With the recent death of a movie actor from heroine, can someone explain how this country has more heroine now than before the Afghan war, when 95% of the plant that makes heroine is grown in Afghanistan? To explain further, the prices are going down because there is more supply than need!


    You think income inequality and the disappearing middle class is a capitalist/conservative phenomenon? No. There’s a reason the Obama administration has made income inequality the worst it’s probably ever been. Socialist policies like Obamacare make life harder on the middle class. It keeps money going to the super-rich and the super-poor, but it just robs the middle class blind. This is not rocket science. It’s easy to figure this stuff out if you’re paying attention.

  15. This decision came shortly after he lost a close friend to the ROE. He explained how the Taliban had attempted an ambush on his friend’s squad but quickly realized they were in a battle they couldn’t win and began retreating. While chasing them, the U.S. soldiers were ordered not to engage due to the slight chance the Taliban had laid down their arms as they ran through some type of shack. While arguing with leadership at the JOC (Joint Operations Center), his friend was shot and killed.


    “The right to bear arms includes the right to carry an operable firearm outside the home for the lawful purpose of self-defense,” Judge Diarmuid O’Scannlain wrote for the majority.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Can someone smarter than me please explain this JUDGE’s argument?

      “Judge Sidney Thomas dissented, writing that the good cause requirement limited the number of people carrying concealed handguns in public to those legitimately in need.

      “It limits the risk to public safety by reducing the number of guns in public circulation, but allows those who will most likely need to defend themselves in public to carry a handgun,” Thomas wrote.”

      So lets recap. You have to PROVE cause to get the permit, but “I want to be able to defend myself” is NOT “proof” alone. But somehow this allows those “who will most likely need to defend themselves in public to carry a handgun.” GOT THAT??

      OK Mathius and Buck, lets see your outstanding logical thinking skills go to work on this one.

      • Judge Thomas is a bought and paid for shill of the Elite Ruling Class. He supports Agenda 21 and is a Progressive PIG. He don’t want good people able to defend themselves, because he supports population control, as is that is part of Agenda 21. He hates the fact that Americans are armed and wants that to change. He loves crime, gives the ERC reason to lay down the Police State, along with the boogieman known as terrorism.

        Judge Thomas, his handlers and the many idiots brainwashed morons that believe in gun control, know one thing. They can’t finish what they want to do because of 80 million, law abiding, non-violent people. As long as we are armed, THEY can’t make a Total Police State. As long as we are armed, they still fear the people, more than the people fear them. They know if they attempt anything to achieve their most pressing goal, to disarm the people, it will not work.

        They thought that Sandy Hook could get them closer, but instead, guns and ammo flew off the shelf faster than ever before. One picture, of a car with bullet holes in it, killed their official story. Not so quietly our numbers grew. This event fortified what Americans really are. Free people, who intend on staying that way. WE THE PEOPLE are the only thing standing between subjugation and freedom. Judge Thomas, his owners and every other piece of shit who believes as they do can suck the end of my High Powered Rifle. And, I will help them choke on it 👿

        • 😉

        • You’re killing me G. This is why I say you want a gunfight. Your posts get angrier and angrier. Just read this post. You’re trigger happy, and that concerns me. Ask me, this rhetoric just gives the opposition fuel for the fire, making our side look like RWNJs. You go straight for the end result but forget there is a meantime. We need to stay focused on the NOW. Unless you’re ready to start shooting now, how bout back off on these threats.

          Now I’m gonna sound like JAC. Name the Elite Ruling Class that you’ve been so intent on bashing lately.

          • Your funny. Didn’t notice the wink afterwards? I was replying to this request from JAC: Can someone smarter than me please explain this JUDGE’s argument?

            Just thought I’d help him out alittle. Who are the ERC? Find the 125 most powerful people on earth today and you will have your answer, at least most of it. I don’t have the time, nor the desire, to do one’s research for them 😉 To help, you can begin your search with the wealthiest who support population control and work your way from there. Have a ball 🙂

            • I have no intention of looking, because I’m not worried about them. You can’t put a name to them either, or express their motive, but you sure can bash. Talk about boogiemen! You go on and on about the constitution being supreme law of the land. You say the USA is not bound by treaties. So how do these elites get to run the show?

        • plainlyspoken says:

          Were do you get your information from on Judge Thomas?

      • Geez…JAC….you are asking for logic in today’s time…..Sigh…….I thought you knew better.

    • plainlyspoken says:

      This ruling may not be around long. I believe, Buck correct me if I am mistaken, there can be a request for the case to go before the full court for decision and the 9th Circuit has not been known as one of the most conservative courts at the appellate level.

  17. Hadn’t thought about it from this perspective-as a way to get companies to shut up and not proclaim that the firings and hours lost is a direct consequence of Obamacare-then of course it could also be used to screw with any companies that they want to screw with.

    • VH, Obama can’t just force companies to do anything. His little EO or whatever about Obamacare is a s legal as his birth certificate 😆 But, seriously, his little directive means nothing and any IRS action based on it will end up in court, with the IRS getting it’s ass kicked. 🙂

  18. Boy, besides the weather, this is not a good week, First Shirley Temple, then Pa Walton and now:

    • The Greatest Generation is slowly fading. That’s a bummer. I’ve always gravitated to this crowd, love listening to the stories. RIP all three.

  19. Buck, Mathius, It seems there may be some higher energy prices coming your way. You can thank Obama and the EPA. The big question that needs asked, how bad will this hurt the poor and what would you do to help them, without using tax dollars?

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      The writing is on the wall concerning the rate increases. Germany has imposed a surcharge on the kilowatt/hour on German households. The average increase will be hundreds of euros per year to the homes electricity bill. However industry is exempt, on the reasoning a company can just move their operations to India for example. Also they are imposing a charge for electricity on companies who produce their own power, off grid, like through solar panels as an example. Spain has deemed it unfair competion to the State run “green energy” companies when people invested in solar and other green energy deneration for their private dwellings. So they are charging them a “TAX” which makes it costlier than if they hooked up to the grid.
      Spain had a provible loss of net jobs due to the “green energy” revolution. 9 jobs lost for every 4 created. 2.2 jobs lost for each one created. This study came out before 2008 and any implosion of the economy. They also used 10 years worth of data.
      Bottom line this will not turn out well as they are definitely finding in Europe. You can not run an industrial nation on wind and solar energy. The other year the UK had a major meteorlogical low settle over the country during the winter. The effect was ZERO wind. They had decommisioned so many nuclear and coal plants they had only the energy to run business or homes, not both at the same time.

  20. plainlyspoken says:

    From ABC News: New Gender Options for Facebook Users

    So Facebook is on the leading edge of further confusing American culture with this nonsense. There are two, and ONLY two genders. To provide over 50 more designations of gender is nothing more than Facebook being irresponsible in my opinion. It is stupidity personified. I think it is all about money for Facebook, especially reading this part of the story:

    “For those who change to something neutral, ads will be targeted based on the pronoun they select for themselves.”

    And, in reading this comment in the article:

    Transgender activist Nori Herras-Castaneda, a spokeswoman for the Billy DeFrank LGBT Community Center in San Jose, said her community has been waiting and lobbying both online and off for this to happen for a long time.

    “We always talk about how gender is a spectrum,” she said.

    Spectrum? What spectrum? There are TWO choices, it’s biology – not choice – that dictates your gender.

    What’s next, having all these “choices” put on to government documentation? Insanity. You’re either male or female, period.

    • plainlyspoken says:

      Here’s a great comparison to the stupidity of gender “choice”.

      You might look at my Caucasian features and wonder why I am claiming to be an African American. I may not be a natural descendent of African American lineage, but I feel black and have thus decided to identify as African American. Since I identify as African American, I am African American, and you must accept me as such. Because I claim my identity as an African American, I demand that the law recognize me as such and afford me all the rights and obligations of that ethnicity.

      • I agree with you, Sir, there are only two genders, and if there are any questions one should look between one’s legs to figure out where they belong. I have thought that the recent glamorization of homosexuality will one day come back to seriously haunt many people. When it’s no longer the “in thing” to be gay, many are going to find themselves sickened by their actions. This will cause an uptick in suicide and major depression. Nature has a way of fixing it’s “problems”, and this may very well qualify.

  21. Anita, The answers you want are readily available and rather easy to find. Agenda 21 was not written because a few people at the UN got bored. There are plans for every country, just like the one you have seen for the U.S.. The problem with Agenda 21, is it’s the END result of plans that are not made public. What is clear, is that 330 million people are not included in these final plans. That number would have to be much , much lower to achieve the end plans. What is that telling you? There are clues that speak volumes when one looks at what already has been written. FEMA will use 10 zones and 10 governors in the event of the need. The Planet will be divided into 10 regions with 10 rulers when the anti-Christ is upon us (it’s in the Bible).

    I always look for answers, you should too, but don’t rely on what I say, learn for yourself and find YOUR answers. 🙂

    • So then it’s the UN you need to direct your anger towards. Here’s where we can agree. But it’s not like we can just start shooting at them. The way to deal with them is through the ballot box! WHAT? Yes, vote in people who have no intention of supporting the UN. Vote for people who want us out of the UN and the UN off our soil. I’ve known about Agenda 21 since the early nineties. I believe I was the first one on SUFA who ever brought it up when USW wanted ideas for topics. My first knowledge of it was from my sister, a teacher, who was very concerned about Outcome Based Education. I don’t know if they have abandoned that approach or not, but there was tons of pushback on it. Now we’re at Common Core and we’re witnessing the pushback on that. In the end we are 300 million strong and we can change anything. That means voting for the right people.

      • I’m not angry with anyone here. Not at all. I’m angry at judges like Thomas who pervert the basic rights of the people to push his progressive agenda, which, by the way, is what is leading the push for Agenda 21. Common Core is just Outcome Based Education with a new name. The one thing about voting that we can all agree, if it did work, it will take probably another generation or two to fix anything. I’m afraid that will be too late. There are two things between Freedom and subjugation and slavery to the State, 80 million gun owners and the internet. They can’t control the message anymore. If the internet goes down, I believe the war has begun. As long as we can hold back the thrust of gun control, they are stuck in neutral and can’t move forward. False Flags will not work anymore.

        But, with one in four people thinking the sun rotates around earth, I’m not counting too much on anything. 🙂

  22. Good job Vladimir. An unscheduled visit to team USA..even after Obama dissed him by not personally showing or at least sending Michelle or Biden. Who’d he send? Three openly gay former Olympians. Low blow, but we’re used to that.

    • After Obama dissed him!?

      Come on now, you know as well as I do that if he had gone the right wing would be screaming about the waste in taxpayer dollars!

      Damned if you do, damned if you don’t I guess…

  23. Chalk one up for the good guys. The UAW was voted down at VW in Chatanooga. Twitchy posted an excellent tweet from a leftie: RIGHT WING ECONOMIC TERRORISM WORKS. Cool! Thanks for the new phrase, we’ll take them any way we can get them.

    And I know I’m stretching it here but…The VOTERS made it happen. 😉

    Cabin fever sucks. Time for a day somewhere like..Cabela’s..YEAH that’s it burnin rubber to get outta here!

    • Yeah-10 points to the south-

      Read the below article-seems people besides the unions talking to the employees is somehow unfair -so there thinking about complaining to the NLRB-you know that group of people who undue the will of the people and the courts in order to make the Union happy.

      February 15, 2014, 07:00 am
      Auto workers reject union in Tennessee

      By Ian Swanson
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      Employees at a Volkswagon plant in Tennessee have rejected joining the United Automobile Workers union in a major defeat for organized labor in the South.

      The workers at the VW plant in Chattanooga voted 712-626 to stay out of the union after a lobbying fight in which Republican politicians warned unionization could lead Volkswagon and automobile companies to leave the state.

      Volkswagon actually offered some support for the UAW in its effort, which deepened the blow to UAW.

      Union officials praised Volkswagon but blamed politicians who had warned workers that by joining they union, they could hurt their own economic interests.

      “We commend Volkswagen for its commitment to global human rights, to worker rights and trying to provide an atmosphere of freedom to make a decision,” UAW Region 8 Director Gary Casteel, who directs the union’s Southern organizing, said in a statement. “Unfortunately, politically motivated third parties threatened the economic future of this facility and the opportunity for workers to create a successful operating model that that would grow jobs in Tennessee.”

      UAW officials vowed they would not give up in their effort to organize workers in the South, a region that historically has been much more difficult to unionize.

      “While we’re outraged by politicians and outside special interest groups interfering with the basic legal right of workers to form a union, we’re proud that these workers were brave and stood up to the tremendous pressure from outside,” said UAW Secretary-Treasurer Dennis Williams. “We hope this will start a larger discussion about workers’ right to organize.”

      Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who had urged workers to reject the UAW, praised the result.

      “Needless to say, I am thrilled for the employees at Volkswagen and for our community and its future,” said Corker, a former major of Chattanooga.

      Corker and a number of other Tennessee Republicans had become heavily involved in the fight.

      Corker said he’d been told the UAW would add an assembly line making SUVs if the union was rejected, while some state lawmakers warned that Volkswagon could lose out on tax credits if the union was organized.

      UAW President Bob King at a news conference after the vote said the union was outraged at what it labeled interference, and that it would consider its legal options.

      That could mean bringing a complaint to the National Labor Relations Board, which counted ballots at the site.

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  24. Looky there-More Union influence-What was that term, oh yeah-LEFT WING ECONOMIC TERRORISM!

    February 15, 2014
    ‘Evil’ Koch brothers just 59th on top political donation list
    Rick Moran

    Sometimes, if you listen to some Democrats, they’re running against the “Evil” Koch brothers rather than a specific Republican candidate.

    The brothers that liberals like to hate are often trotted out as prime examples of why campaign finance reform is necessary. They are often portrayed as one of the biggest contributors to political candidates, their evil money financing evil Republicans.

    The group has compiled a list of top donors to candidates and, to the left’s surprise, the Koch brothers are far down the list.

    Washington Examiner:

    Charles and David Koch are the two most evil people in American politics, right? We know that because Jane Mayer proved it with her landmark “Covert Operations” tour de liberal force in 2010.

    Well, it turns out that Mayer’s aim was off just a little, by like 58 slots on the all-time biggest donors in American politics list, as compiled by tallied the top donors in federal elections between 1989 and 2014. Koch Industries — privately owned by the Evil Koch Bros — is on the list, to be sure, but doesn’t appear until the 59th slot, with $18 million in donations, 90 percent of which went to Republicans.

    Unions, unions, unions

    So who occupies the 58 spots ahead of the Evil Koch Bros? Six of the top 10 are … wait for it … unions. They gave more than $278 million, with most of it going to Democrats.

    These are familiar names: AFSCME ($60.6 million), NEA ($53.5 million), IBEW ($44.4 million), UAW ($41.6 million), Carpenters & Joiners ($39.2 million) and SEIU ($38.3 million).

    In other words, the six biggest union donors in American politics gave 15 times more to mostly Democrats than the Evil Koch Bros.

    Wall Street and Act Blue, too

    Three of the remaining four slots in the top 10 were taken by AT&T ($56.4 million), National Association of Realtors ($51.2 million) and Goldman Sachs ($44.8 million).

    So, if money is the measure of evil in American politics and the Evil Koch Bros only come in 59th, who is really the most evil donor ever?

    Turns out it’s Act Blue, with just short of $100 million in contributions during its lifetime, which only started in 2004, 15 years after the Evil Koch Bros in the compilation.

    Any bets on when Mayer’s “Covert Operations II: Act Blue” will appear in the New Yorker?

    Although it pains me to be fair, I should point out that the Koch brothers also contribute tens of millions of dolalrs to the GOP cause indirectly through their indpendent committees Americans for Prosperity and others. Also to be fair, I should point out that unions spent a half a billion dollars in such indirect spending in the 2012 election cycle.

    What isn’t arguable is that unions are by far the biggest contributors to politicians and public unions top the list. I guess there’s a distinction to be made between “good” union money and “evil” Koch brothers cash – but only if you’re a partisan hack.

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    • Just A Citizen says:

      In addition, for those who are wondering what is ActBlue:

      ActBlue is a United States political action committee established in June 2004 that enables anyone to raise money on the Internet for the Democratic Party candidates of their choice.

      ActBlue has grown quickly to become a major fundraising tool for Democrats, particularly favored by the netroots and left-leaning bloggers.[1] As of November 2013, ActBlue had raised more than $430 million USD for Democratic candidates at various levels of politics, making it the largest single source of funds for Democrats. The organization is open to all registered Democratic campaigns and candidates. [2]

  25. I’d like to welcome the two newest members of the deer rifle family in my arsenal. Two 50 cal muzzleloaders, only shot once each, in mint condition, with powder, percussion caps and 230 grain hollow point bullets. One is topped with a 3 x 9 variable scope (the other will soon). All for the nice price of 250.00. 🙂

  26. Anita, I almost bought a 9mm MAC 10. But, I’m planning on hunting deer, not people 😉

  27. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    With Obama’s visit to drought stricken California this week I just shake my head in amazement. I will agree to the given that they are in a drought for a number of years in parts of California. But, what totally blows me away is that knowing this, the State literally has done NOTHING in regards to any mandatory water restrictions. There have been some, but they are all recent, within the past month or so. Heavens, they are not to refill pools or hot tubs in Santa Cruz. Lawns should have been DEAD for at least two years. Not now implementing some limited restrictions in some cities. This is a MAN-MADE disaster. When I grew up in California, we were very aware of limited water supplies and what there was mostly came from another State. I still remember an ad trhat got right to the point graphically, with captions. It showed a stream in Colorado with a trout swimming. The caption read, “everytime LA does this, sound of a toilet flushing,” the film showed the water level drop in Colorado. Eventually the the fish was flopping on the creek bottom. I lived in a fairly well to do area and very few homes had central AC, lawns and plantings died quickly if you had a yard that was not of native type drought resistant plants. This was when there were only 21M residents in CA. Now there is over 38M plus. I’m sure folks remember the Roman Polanski film “Chinatown” The story about the water was true, only the names were changed. The city diverted the water ultimately from the Owens Valley on the west side of the Sierras. There are catchments and aquaducts going to LA and the Owens Valley today is a desert. It wasn’t before. Mono lake was disappearing until residents sued LA to restore some of the water to the lake.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      sorry, eastern side of the Sierras

    • Dale, the only way the democrats can prove Climate Change is to make people suffer from normal weather patterns and claim otherwise. This is how they deal with their big lie. People must suffer to buy into socialism, that’s the only way it can take hold.

  28. What happens when the government takes away the peoples guns? Check out what is happening in Venezuela:

  29. plainlyspoken says:
    • Great article V 🙂 This is also why I’m proud to be part of SUFA, at least we have discussed the “After the Revolution” issue. I also think that we are headed in the same direction as many of those countries, and most people will think the same. As we continue on a path to a Police state, we need to realize that what we have as a Federal Government isn’t working anymore. It needs changed to the point of being powerless over the people. Local governments can handle the laws that need to be enforced. They should be very limited on scope and identify the crime and punishment. No more plea deals and wasted tax dollars on a broken system that doesn’t rehabilitate.

      Just some thoughts today, hope your day is well and everyone around you is safe and healthy 🙂

    • Very good points. Note the last paragraphs when they talk about democracies not being democratic enough. I think you can see this in the west. the carving out of “special interest groups” and perpetually aggrieved sub minority minorities who are entitled to “special status” is really ticking off everybody else.

  30. “Obamacare, Communism, and Oppression.”

    Written on Friday, February 14, 2014 by Rebecca Wilde

    We can envision what the accommodations for press and others attending the Olympics in Sochi were supposed to be, grand luxury hotels in a scenic Russian city. That’s what the brochures said. Sure, if the project had been completed, we’d still be having a little first-world laugh at photos of toilets facing folding chairs and of cot-sized beds, but that would be a side note. I have no doubt that many people believed in the vision and that many people worked very hard trying to make it come to be. But the reality fell far short. Maybe one day, the facilities will be finished for tourists to enjoy, but the current guests will have to manage. For now, reporters take photos of exposed wires, yellow water, flooded hallways, and stray cats. That is the reality.

    The Affordable Care Act, “Obamacare,” was advertised as legislation that would provide universal healthcare for everyone in America. We were told, over and over, that if we liked our existing insurance and doctor, we could keep our plan and our doctor. No longer would those with previously-diagnosed medical conditions have difficulty finding insurance or be required to pay more than another. No longer would medical professionals be greedy and charge exorbitant fees or do unneeded surgeries or tests. Families would see thousands of dollars of savings on premiums. Those who warned of shortages and rationing, exploding costs, and unnecessary death and morbidity, endured derision and personal attacks.

    As the ACA becomes reality, Americans are losing their insurance plans and their doctors and are facing staggering premiums and deductibles under the plans offered on the infamous dysfunctional, non-secure website. Of course, advocates of the ACA never said, “The ACA is a radical departure from the founders’ vision. It means far more than merely losing your insurance plan and doctor. It is designed to destroy and replace the system we have with government-controlled health care that will cost you much in dollars and more in freedom.” There was no warning label attached to the bill, saying, “The government will control you and will be able to reward or punish you with their new power as they do with the powers they have now. The government will control your body and your very life. Consider this carefully, and don’t let it come to be unless you understand it and are really sure you want it. There won’t be any going back.”

    Oppressive laws and communist and fascist revolutions are always sold as bold improvements or glorious new eras of progress. The Nazi platform, sold as “change,” was ugly and contained all kinds of disgusting provisions, but it claimed to be based on the “principle of self-determination of all peoples.” It promised Germans ” equal rights and duties” and “a sound middle-class,” with the “possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood.” It demanded religious freedom, better health, better access to education, profit-sharing in industries, and more generous pensions. It called for an end to war profits, “unearned” income, and corruption in parliament.

    Communism is an ugly philosophy, but it sounds pretty good to a lot of people. Marxism teaches, “From each, according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Marx advertised a classless society. The Soviets had various constitutions and the Chinese have their own. These mention various “rights” of The People, often including food, education, health care, and jobs. It’s common to find a right to speech, assembly, or worship.

    The reality for the citizens of communist and fascist regimes has been brutal. Reformers never tell the people beforehand that in the Brave New World, most will lead lives of desperate poverty and cruel oppression, with no realistic way to improve their lives. Advocates of change won’t tell you that the new government will not value human life. They won’t say how dirty the environment is going to get. No one agitates for change, saying, “Soon, there will be massive shortages, and you will spend each day scraping by, just trying to find food and relying on the black market to survive. You will work day in and day out, but you will remain in hopeless poverty. You will have what government says you can have and live in the space the government says is enough and do the job the government says you’ll do. “ No one will say, “Remember, that means that you will have only the medical care the government decides to provide. You will have a baby only if the government approves. Your disabled child or unauthorized unborn child may be killed at the discretion of government.”

    There is never a warning label attached to leaders of these revolutions, saying, “You should understand that our revolution will require terrible horror and carnage. Fear and violence will be necessary to give birth to our new way of life and to maintain the power of an elite class. You may become a statistic. The government may starve you or drag you away in the night and shoot you. “ And there is never a warning label that says, ‘You and your people may be blamed for society’s problems, and your people may be marked for persecution or extermination. Millions may die in purges or in death camps or in government-induced famines. Consider this carefully. You won’t have the freedom to speak out against or change any of this once it is achieved.”

    The Sochi hotels were intended to be grand, and they could have been. Unlike statist visions, that vision was not inherently doomed. The rooms were supposed to match the brochures, and presumably, they could have. There are certainly plenty who believe in the ACA and in the statist vision. They believe that we will enjoy good health and pay little for it under the ACA once a few glitches are worked out. There are plenty who believe that communism is going to eliminate class and want one of these days or that some other statist vision will free us from the human condition, no matter what the brutal truth. Too many, in too many countries have believed that and have paid with their freedom and lives. Some understand the most tragic direct costs of statist revolution and want it nevertheless. But too many are content to glance at the front of the glossy brochure and simply assume that they want to go to the beautiful place in the picture.

    Read the rest of this Patriot Update article here:


    While President Smokey Pants’ many EO’s or signing statements have changed Obamacare directives, ILLEGALLY, this last one is the work of a Tyrant. In my opinion, he has declared war on the people. I wonder how much more will be taken before the people step up and act like American’s and call for him to step down. He’s a disgrace to our nation and what we stand for. 👿

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      And “We the People” do not have standing in the SCOTUS in disputing these activities by the government. I’m sure they will look at Congress in the same manner. The House may dispute an EO which they can do, but Harry Reid in the Senate will not allow anything to come up for debate or vote that will jeopardize anything Obama has done or is doing. So there is no choice but to go to the courts. I believe it has to be the courts in DC, which are notoriously liberal……….comments

  32. Oh no JAC – say it ain’t so!!

    Ayn Rand-loving CEO destroys his empire

    The invisible hand waves bye-bye to Eddie Lampert, whose business plan has run Sears into the ground

    Once upon a time, hedge fund manager Eddie Lampert was living a Wall Street fairy tale. His fairy godmother was Ayn Rand, the dashing diva of free-market ideology whose quirky economic notions would transform him into a glamorous business hero.

    For a while, it seemed to work like a charm. Pundits called him the “Steve Jobs of the investment world.” The new Warren Buffett. By 2006 he was flying high, the richest man in Connecticut, managing over $15 billion thorough his hedge fund, ESL Investments.

    Stoked by his Wall Street success, Lampert plunged headlong into the retail world. Undaunted by his lack of industry experience and hailed a genius, Lampert boldly pushed to merge Kmart and Sears with a layoff and cost-cutting strategy that would, he promised, send profits into the stratosphere. Meanwhile the hotshot threw cash around like an oil sheikh, buying a $40 million pad in Florida’s Biscayne Bay, a record even for that star-studded county.

    Fast-forward to 2013: The fairy tale has become a nightmare.

    Lampert is now known as one of the worst CEOs in America — the man who flushed Sears down the toilet with his demented management style and harebrained approach to retail. Sears stock is tanking. His hedge fun is down 40 percent, and the business press has turned from praising Lampert’s genius towatching gleefully as his ship sinks. Investors are running from “Crazy Eddie” like the plague.

    That’s what happens when Ayn Rand is the basis for your business plan.

    Crazy Eddie has been one of America’s most vocal advocates of discredited free-market economics, so obsessed with Ayn Rand he could rattle off memorized passages of her novels. As Mina Kimes explained in a fascinating profile in Bloomberg Businessweek, Lampert took the myth that humans perform best when acting selfishly as gospel, pitting Sears company managers against each other in a kind of Lord of the Flies death match. This, he believed, would cause them to act rationally and boost performance.

    If you think that sounds batshit crazy, congratulations. You understand more than most of America’s business school graduates.

    Instead of enhancing Sears’ bottom line, the heads of various divisions began to undermine each other and fight tooth and claw for the profits of their individual fiefdoms at the expense of the overall brand. By this time Crazy Eddie was completely in thrall to his own bloated ego, and fancied he could bend underlings to his will by putting them through humiliating rituals, like annual conference calls in which unit managers were forced to bow and scrape for money and resources. But the chaos only grew.

    Lampert took to hiding behind a pen name and spying on and goading employees through an internal social network. He became obsessed with technology, wasting resources on developing apps as Sears’ physical stores became dilapidated and filthy. Instead of investing in workers and developing useful products, he sold off valuable real estate, shuttered stores, and engineered stock buybacks in order to manipulate stock prices and line his own pockets.

    Eddie’s crazy didn’t stop there. As a Wall Street creature fantastically out of touch with the kind of ordinary folks who shop at Sears, he inserted his love of luxury into the mix, trying to sell Rolex watches and $4,400 designer handbagsthrough America’s iconic budget-friendly brand.

    As his company was descending into Randian mayhem, Lampert continued to cheerfully inform stockholders that his revolutionary ideas would soon produce earth-shattering results. Reality: Sears has lost half its value in five years. Since 2010, Sears has closed more than half of its stores. Sears Holdings is financially distressed and Lampert’s own hedge fund has reduced its stake in the company. The Sears store in Oakland, California, open for business with boarded-up windows, has even been cited for urban blight.

    Truth be told, hedge fund honchos have had little to fear from royally screwing companies. Bank accounts fattened at the expense of workers and other stakeholders, they go on their merry way to mess up something else. But the epic incompetence of guys like Lampert may be dispelling the myth that financiers are the smartest guys in the room. Research suggests that not only do hedge fund managers typically understand squat about running a company, they’re often not much good at beating the stock market, either. A recent Bloomberg article points out that in 2013, hedge funds returned 7.1 percent. That doesn’t sound so bad, until you consider that if you had just stuck your money in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index you would have seen returns of 29.1 percent. Big difference!

    While Lampert was caught up in Randian delusions of crass materialism and cut-throat capitalism, he failed to realize that a business is an experience as much communal as it is individual. Employees are not just competitive beings — they benefit from cooperating with each other and perform better when they are respected, rather than beaten down and driven by fear.

    Slowly but surely, Ayn Rand’s economic theories are being discarded because they simply don’t add up in the real world. Even Rand acolyte Paul Ryan (R-Wis) is now distancing himself, calling his well-documented enthusiasm an “urban legend.”

    Lampert created a business model predicated on the notion that the invisible hand of the market would magically drive stellar results. With his belief in economic fairy tales, he managed to kill the goose that laid his own golden egg.

    Looks like the invisible hand just waved goodbye to Eddie Lampert.

    • Retail is a tough business under the best of circumstances. One should not mess in a world one does not understand. Because I know how to bake cupcakes and win blue ribbons for them does not mean I am cut out to run Ford Motors. My final job before retiring was working for a group of bankers, all in their forties, who took their 1990’s early 2000’s profits and bought up low income real estate. As I got deeper and deeper into the workings of their company I kept asking, “What made you think you knew how to do this”? The answer was always something about how smart they were and how successful they had been in banking. One year into my involvement and four years after they started, the partnership blew sky high. Best friends no longer talked to each other and some 30 million I figure, basically disappeared into the ether.

    • Just A Citizen says:


      The author obviously has little understanding of Rand’s work or beliefs.

      You should know better. But apparently you haven’t taken the time to understand either.

      I see this story as just one more validation of her many arguments.

      • JAC,
        The author doesn’t need an understanding of Rand’s work or beliefs.

        Eddie Lampert applied Ayn Rand’s principles in the real world, and the results were disastrous.

        How, exactly, is this just one more validation of her many arguments?

        • Just A Citizen says:


          Lampert did not apply Rand’s “principles”. Such a statement just confirms your ignorance.

          I suggest you go back to my article on Rand and look at the base principles she listed. Then try to explain how Lampert was following these principles.

          The author and you simply throw out the accusation. NOTHING to back up your claims.

          • JAC,
            Guess what – I wrote this “response” to you before I even posted the article!! 🙂

            He didn’t apply her principles correctly? That’s exactly my problem with Ayn Rand’s “principles”. Even “smart” people apply them incorrectly.

            They may sound great in theory (to some people), but applying them in the real world doesn’t work.

            I don’t need to reread your articles. The author is not simply throwing out the accusation.

            Eddie Lampert is a big believer in Ayn Rand. He applied her “principles” as he thought they were intended. And it didn’t work.

            I would say that backs up the author’s claims 100%.

            Your only defense is that he didn’t apply Ayn Rand’s “principles” correctly. As I said above – that is the heart of the problem – Ayn Rand’s “principles” don’t work in the real world.

            Can you provide an example where Ayn Rand’s “principles” did work in the real world?

            Or is this just another theory that you claim will work – but you can’t back up with examples?

            • Just A Citizen says:


              Rule #1 per Ayn Rand

              You cannot cheat REALITY. This flows to knowing the TRUTH about oneself and your circumstances.

              Now tell me how Lampert followed that principle.

              No Todd, this is not a problem with the principles. This is the author and you claiming that Lampert followed them when he did not. And not because they are hard to understand or apply.

              Furthermore, the authors description of the principles is the typical caricature created out of ignorance. You apparently are willing to accept the same as truth.

              Your arguments and accusations are typical logical fallacies.

              • JAC,
                In your passion to blame this on me and the author, you seemed to have missed these questions:

                Can you provide an example where Ayn Rand’s “principles” did work in the real world?

                Or is this just another theory that you claim will work – but you can’t back up with examples?

              • Perhaps I misunderstood the article, Todd, but didn’t it say this guy was a sensational success up until the time he went into a business he knew nothing about. I’m not an across the board supporter of Rand-but I think she got a lot of stuff right. But I haven’t seen anything in her theory that says go into a business you know nothing about and make stupid decisions.

              • Todd – which Rand works have you read?

  33. The Liberal voting base on display, don’t know crap about basic science. Bravo to all those Union teachers, great job!

    • Gman,
      How do to you equate this to the Liberal voting base on display, don’t know crap about basic science. Bravo to all those Union teachers, great job?

      It would seem to me it’s the Conservatives pushing the anti-science agenda.

      • Because they fall in line with the Global Warmers, mind numbingly stupid 🙂

        • Gman,
          So, your response to my comment about the “anti-science agenda” is to push the Conservative anti-science agenda?

          How appropriate – nothing to back up your claim, so you resort to innuendo. That seems to be your standard fallback position lately.


          Reality and truth are always realized when the LIES abound. And LIES abound daily from the Liberal Messiah and his Flock in the Whitehouse.

          • The part that I like the best about all this is the one where I agree that there is climate change but do not agree that man in any way significantly effects it or can do anything to reverse it. A normal cycle for the planet. Does this make me a “denier” or anti-science?

            I heard the whining today from Great Britain about how their “society” may not be able to withstand the coming change. They have in the past and they have thrived. What is so new about this?

            • CA’s water problems are man made and have nothing to do with global warming or climate change. The is more than enough water in normal years in the Sierras to keep CA hydrated through the lean years. No new storage facilities have been build for 30 years. Some have even been taken out. Even with the current storage capacity, we normally would have had enough water to get through this summer except they flushed it all out the delta to protect the smelt. Neither Brown nor Obama are helping. Food stamps, SBA loans, charity will not solve the problem. We need desalination plants in the south and more storage in the north. We need to stop catering to the environmental wackos and supply water to working farms and businesses that require it. Orchards and vineyards will be dying this summer which means lost crops for several years. Row crops wont be planted, more lost income and the associated tax income. Will the state and counties reduce their property tax assessments on the fallowed land? I doubt it. It is harder to spread the wealth when it is actively being destroyed.

              • Dale A. Albrecht says:

                T-Ray….glad to see that someone else agrees with my assessment of California’s water problems. Totally man-made but not through Obama’s and Holdrens climate change agenda. With only 3 desalination plants in the State where water has always been a critical problem. I saw that cities like Santa Cruz had not put any water restrictions in place until recently and they were down to 17% of the resevoir capacity. They spend obscene amounts of money on wind farms causing one of the worst eye-sores and wildlife killers that can be devised in some of the most beautiful areas. When it all could be replaced by 2-3 nuclear plants which are a pin prick on the landscape. Now they do have to be placed in a saner location than the one in San Luis Obispo directly on a fault. You may remember that the government wanted to dam the Colorado in the “Grand Canyon” in the 60’s. This was during Johnsons administration. Even the Sierra Club was endorsing the project. Finally a group got Sec of the Interior Udall to go down the canyon on a raft and his mind was changed. He then went down in history as a a great environmental savior. The Sierra Club literally had a revolt that eventually changed the mind of their leadership about the project. The environmental wacko’s as you put it, are completely skizoid. Save the environment at all costs, ie the smelt in the Sacramento river, but are then willing to blow the tops off of mountains, kill millions of birds, destroy millions of acres of conserved land all to save us. The proposed site that the utilities in NC want to place a wind farm is directly in a major migratory route here on the coast. Flocks and flocks of pelicans and other birds will be minced up. The site is adjacent to the wintering area of a rare canadian goose. The college in Morehead City is trying a wind generator. It is on a cylinder. No whirling blades hundreds of feet in the air. Do not have to rotate to catch the wind. They operate regardless of wind direction. Take up a lot less space, no wildlife kills no risk of flying blades when the come apart. Just recently I’m sure you read that the US Game and Wildlife agency is granting Eagle takes. They used the excuse in Maryland that it actually would be good for the birds. Yeah right

              • Speaking of the Cali drought. Look what it will do to food prices:

            • Dale A. Albrecht says:

              The great environmental climate science minds of today are really the denyers. I have yet to hear them explain the 1000 year “Roman” warming period which by emperical data was shown to be 5 degrees warmer than today. They do not explain the 750 year drought that almost wiped out the southwest indian cultures. They do not explain that the Sahara changes from a severe desert to a lush estuary area with lakes about every 7000 years. We’re only part way through that cycle. The space program has mapped at least 3 cycles, the artifacts of the lakes and rivers etc. Paleontologist, geologists, oceanographers are all proving the cycle. Holdren also never talks about his predictions in The late 70’s that man will be severely set back and we’ll have massive famine due to an ICEAGE.

              • The new solar thermal power plant in the SoCal desert is cooking flocks of birds that fly through the beams. I guess no one saw that coming. The sad part is the low water means hydro will be scarce this summer so electric rates will go up. Still Brown wants his train to no where and his large diversion tunnels around the delta. More wasted money. But it keeps the unions happy.

            • Stephen, You are a denier just as I. The Liberal form of climate change, which began as global warming and rebranded, relies solely on “man made” to accomplish the end goals. Without the continued denial of cheap energy to Third World nations, they will forever remain poor. This is a goal, not an accident. The destruction of the coal industry, based on this whacko science, will affect the poorest in the country the most, ensuring thay stay poor and dependent on Uncle Sugar. The increased costs of electricity will simply add more people to the government dole.

              Carbon taxes is just another way for Progressives to steal money and pad the pockets of their donors. It’s not about helping the poor, that’s another big LIE spewed, but it’s also getting proven a lie. Scientists fudged the numbers to reach their preordained conclusions. I have read about Todd’s claims of hottest years, only to quickly read from real scientists who throw the BS flag.

              The great news is that the Lying bastards are losing the information war. They don’t own it all anymore and haven’t figured out how to shut down the 1st Amendment when it comes to the internet. Even I, not exactly a scientist, understand what CO2 is and how important it is to life, yet these jackfucks want to call it pollution. All of them should be jailed for Fraud/Attempted Fraud, then this kind of BS will come to a stop in this country. Al Gore should hang for his part. The rest of the useful idiots should read up on their history.

              • OH, I really tired of shoveling all this Global Warming that fell from the sky! It keeps coming and coming, with 4 to 6 more inches of the white Global Warming expected tonight. Unfortunately for the Warmist morons, it’s really snow and quite normal in these parts. 🙂 Our weather has been basically normal, nothing unusual about the cold snaps or the snowfall. Climate Change “man-made” is a total hoax.


    Good article on the beliefs of George Washington. :


    Down with the sceptics! (Or is that skeptics?) There can be no freedom of speech or thought when our globe is at risk of burning up. Avoid hell on earth!! Fire all the skeptics in government and academia. Block all publication of denier’s writings. Climate change is here.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      Is Brown still pushing for the train system to nowhere? Haven’t the projected costs gone up 5B every five years and they still have not done any purchasing of land required. Much less, sort of stopping in no mans land between Sacramento and SF, while dropping people off in LA in an area where business has moved away from.

      • The court temporarily stopped the project because spending did not meet the requirements of the bond issue. However, I am confident that this will not change the results as they have issued new plans that the court will probably allow. The first leg is still scheduled between Bakersfield and Modesto (I think) which is why it is called the train to nowhere. Ground breaking is supposed to occur within a year. If it came back up for a vote, the voters would reject it due to the cost overruns. The same goes for Brown’s tunnels around (under) the delta. They move water from the north to the south allowing the pumps in the delta to shut down. The pumps are partially responsible for the delta smelt decline as they get sucked in and ground up. The smelt are also eaten by fish coming up the delta from the Bay. Both projects are mufti-billion dollar projects that adds very little real economic benefit to CA. Our water system was built for 25 million people. We now have 38 million. We have more than enough water in normal years, we just do not store enough for the lean years. One suggestion that is going unheeded is to dredge the reservoirs while they are down and sell the silt as topsoil. Folsom is a prime candidate for this. We are spending millions to increase the capacity of Folsom by raising the dikes. Its capacity could be increased significantly and much cheaper by using this low water opportunity to dredge it. But we all know this will take months for the environmental study plus endless political debate followed by bureaucratic delays. Mr. President, here is a shovel ready job.

        • Dale A. Albrecht says:

          Now if they contemplated building the high speed rail system in an actual scenic area, like along the coastal route that might draw people. But Modesto – Bakersfield. yuck…..why can’t the people get it back on the ballot? Doesn’t Brown realize that there are only two high speed rail lines in the world that actually make money. They are short runs, One in Japan and one in France. All the others are cool but a complete drain on the treasuries.

          I find it mind boogling that with almost doubling the population since the 60’s the State has not increased their resevoir capacity at all, and acording to you actually decreased. Nature with silting would account for quite a bit. Insanity at best.

          • Dale A. Albrecht says:

            Pardon the spelling errors. My mind is elsewhere today.

          • An Unreconstructed Rebel says:

            The Democratic Republik of Californy hasn’t built any more reservoirs or found any more water supplies for simple reasons (to them). One, if they build more reservoirs it might endanger a snail darter or a desert turtle or maybe a tree slug. Two; they are WAY too interesting in running all Californians lives blowing their money for instituting social programs for everyone to live on. And three; they have so many environmental and social regulations in place it would probably make it impossible to afford, much less build anything.

            Besides. Why spend any money or make any effort when, if they wait, the Feds will probably be MORE than willing to throw our tax dollars into the kitty for them, thereby making it the responsibility of the rest of the 49 states too.

            I’m back, by the way. I have Internet again. 😉

            • Welcome back! I need help in edumacating the sheeple, 😆

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Awsome, Essom………… see how I did that? Pretty clever huh?

              OK………need baseball update.

              • Baseball update first cause it’s short and sweet. Season starts next week. Boy is gonna go probably to Southern Tech. Wants to be a Civil Engineer and Southern is better than Ga Tech.

                On the Political front; They ain’t no use trying to educate the unteachable. That would require them to THINK. I get SO tired of hearing the same old same old from Obama and his minions. They are as stupid as those minions in Despicable Me.

                Five years of Obamanomics haven’t taught them a damn thing. And Freedom and Liberty of course don’t mean CRAP next to Government freebies!

  36. Just A Citizen says:


    Re: Ayn Rand’s principles working.

    There are examples all around you. I am betting you even live by some of them. What is rare is the person who integrates them all. Because to do that requires an extremely concentrated effort to THINK.

    Now, if you present me with an actual principle of Rand, I will try to show you examples of where it/they are working.

    • JAC,, you had the battle won before it began. Todd won’t be back to debate you, he’s a typical Left Wing Liberal Coward. He ain’t got nothing to fight with, nothing. It’s all BS, just like most of the far Left Dickheads running around today. They support theft and murder, WHY waste your time?

      • Just A Citizen says:


        I am pretty damn sure Todd is not a coward and he certainly is pretty smart.

        His beliefs are in conflict but so are most people.

        If I can not “debate” with people like Todd then how will I ever be able to persuade anyone that there is a better path?

      • Gee-whiz Gman,
        Almost sounds like a personal attack? It’s about the only thing you’re good at. I noticed many of those on the “right” are even getting sick of you lately. Not surprising.

        But I do agree with one thing you said: WHY waste your time?

        Your childish antics are the reason so few people post here. Keep up the good work.

        • Todd, if you would come here to debate instead of deride, these problems wouldn’t exist. If you wonder what I am speaking about, go back and see your last pathetic drive by 😉

    • JAC,
      Why don’t you just provide an example of a person who integrates them all?

      • I don’t know whether he’s going to come up with an example or not. But I’m thinking she wrote her philosophy, not a list of commandments. There is no jail or hell for falling off the wagon. What’s so wrong with having a code to live by? Her philosophy doesn’t work for everyone, but it’s not evil, it doesn’t make people poor and it really doesn’t hurt you if you don’t want to follow. So why is it such a problem?

      • Just A Citizen says:


        I do.

        I know of three friends who do.

        But you see examples are not really what you want.

        Your entire line of argument is baloney.

        You don’t seem to understand at all what her principles are then jump on some bandwagon that mischaracterizes those principles.

        Yet you refuse to do any research to find out if your opinion is right or wrong.

        You think that demanding examples is an argument against philosophical concepts. So tell me, when prior to 1776 had a set of colonies revolted against their sovereign and then formed a Constitutional Republic based on the concept of Individual Liberty???

  37. Just A Citizen says:


    Re: Rand

    Your comment was dead on. Hence my comment that he violated Rule #1.

    You cannot ignore, trick, escape, fool, REALITY.

    The first “fallacy” of the argument is claiming that Rand’s beliefs justify “pitting people AGAINST each other” let along divisions within a company.

    If you do some research on the Sears mess you will find that this guy has created all kinds of turmoil, but he is not responsible for its decline. Maybe for not turning it around, but other brick and mortar retailers are also floundering. See JC Penny, as just one other example.

    You will also find that this guy is being praised for some of his innovations while being condemned for his structure and departmental cost centers.

    The only thing other writers have tried to link to Rand is his theory that by creating individual departments they would maximize their own benefit which would improve the health of the whole company.

    But this fails to pass the test or rationality because he did not completely separate everything and many divisions are co dependent upon each other.

    One other interesting thing. There are a couple of Federal Agencies that have “centralized” some parts while creating autonomous divisions which then compete for resources. The Federal Managers who came up with these ideas are far, far, far from being Objectivists.

  38. Just A Citizen says:

    A glimpse of things to come over the next year??

    P.S. Daily Kos also has an article on Hillary and the Dems chances in 2014 and 2016. Based on their assessment the Republicans are going to lose both houses and the white house. And they have some special plans for the States to UNDO the Republican hold on the State legislatures and Governorships. They plan to attack and tie up redistricting for force JUDGES to draw the lines.

    Like I said, a GLIMPSE of things to come.

  39. Out driving today. Saw an interesting bumper sticker on a BMW SUV, the pricey kind. It said, “Proud Union Carpenter”. Not for nothing but in my best years I could not afford that car.

  40. I read this article and had to laugh. It just shows how the whole political system at the federal level is plain f****d.

    Good luck to those of you who think you can save it.

    • Thanks, we’ll take the luck.

      There is nothing in that article that we’re not aware of. It’s too bad that you have accepted defeat so easily, we could use all the help we can get

      • I hate to say it Anita, but that’s the fix we’re in. This maniac is large and in charge, and short of a Revolution, we’re screwed. I’ll go down fighting anyway, but I don’t think it matters to them how many of us they stomp on.

    • “The Land of the Free is governed by an out-of-control egomaniac, neither bolstered by managerial competence nor hindered by the legislature’s institutional prerogatives. In the Home of the Brave, half of Congress cheers Obama’s unconstitutional behavior, while the other half grumbles and then meekly carpet-bombs his path with white flags.

      The American people have been betrayed — both by Obama and the Democrats, whose lust for control intensifies daily, and by Republican leaders in Washington, whose cowardice and defeatism have turned their guts and spines into tapioca.

      America, as Paul Simon sings, is slip-slidin’ away. And the worst part hasn’t happened yet.”

      The most sad, sick thing I have ever heard. Why I hate the ENTIRE Federal Government. And why soon we’ll be just like a Banana Republic.

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