Speaking the UnSpeakable

I do try to not make judgements on issues until the smoke clears & a clear picture emerges.  I mostly ignored the Zimmerman story for a couple of days.  I have tried to do so on Ferguson until enough facts emerged to form an intelligent opinion.  First fact, the MO Govern is a total tool & should be recalled, impeached or just shipped to Iraq to directly head negotiations with ISIS.  (OK, not a fact, just a strongly expressed opinion)

On Tuesday, August 19, Governor Jay Nixon (D-Mo.) called for the “vigorous prosecution” of Darren Wilson, the Missouri police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown last week. 

Despite the highly charged rhetoric by the state’s Democratic governor, NBC’s Today was the only network morning show to acknowledge Nixon’s comments, giving it a mere 41 seconds on its Wednesday morning broadcast.

So what do you think?  Calling for vigorous prosecution before even determining if he committed a crime?  I have a different perspective.  Officer Darren Wilson should be awarded the highest awards available to a law enforcement officer for his actions.  By several accounts, Michael Brown & another male were walking down the middle of a city street, disrupting traffic.  (This was soon after the report of a robbery in that area.)  Officer Wilson yelled at them to get out of the street.  (this is a LEGAL order!  The ideal that this is a free country does not mean there are not laws such as those that restrict the streets to vehicles, not pedestrians.  Police also have the authority to enforce those laws thru tickets, arrest or whatever level of force is required)  Brown walking down the middle of the street after committing a strong arm robbery (battery) shows he was intent on violence, on provoking a confrontation. 

Officer Wilson ordered him out of the street.  Brown ignored him.  Officer Wilson started to exit his vehicle but was stopped by Brown & his accomplice, who shoved him back into the police car.  Brown then punched officer Wilson several times resulting in significant to severe injuries.  There are reports the struggled for Wilson’s gun.  Brown stepped away & Wilson exited the car.  Brown then taunted Wilson, “What you gonna do, shoot me”?  Brown then began an aggressive run at Wilson, who then shot Brown six times.

Reports indicate Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket from Browns attack.  A few days ago, I criticized Wilson’s marksmanship.  I was wrong.   While Brown was struck four times in the right arm, two went thru and struck the upper body.  Wilson was aiming center mass, exactly as police officers are trained.  That he was this accurate after a brutal beating, impaired vision and possible concussion or concussion like symptoms shows focus, restraint and professionalism of the highest order.  Brown had shown himself intent on violence and unwilling to submit to arrest.  Had Wilson allowed him to escape, who would have been his next victim?  Wilson, as a police officer, is entrusted with authority & powers not shared with the general public.  He is expected to protect the general public from violence.  Had Brown continued to walk away, Wilson would still be expected to stop Brown.  Compare that to you or I.  If we had been beaten & they walk away, we cannot legally shoot them or use lethal force.  Once the threat to our or others safety passes, we cannot legally engage even a violent criminal.  But in this encounter, we & officer Wilson have the clear right to self defense.  Brown reversed direction and began a fast approach toward Wilson.  He died an aggressor.  He died because he choose to attack others.  Wilson was injured doing his job stopping people like Brown.

And while I am happy to praise Officer Wilson, I think it should be contrasted with some criticism.  A few years back there was a shooting in Time Square.  I am still waiting for reports on what happened to the officers who shot innocent bystanders.  In California, during the Dorner manhunt, police twice fired on mistakenly identified vehicles, shooting one man & injuring two others.  Two separate incidents where two different police organizations violated the law & their legally recognized procedures.  If shoot on sight orders had been issued, they would have to have identified the suspect.  The first incident involved two women.  The second a small build white male.  Dorner was a large, black male.  NY could be excused, that they had to stop a threat to the public at large, even if it meant injuring innocent bystanders present at that time.  (I don’t agree with this, but acknowledge a case can be made)  But no such defense can be offered for the illegal actions in California.  One thing shared by both is the lack of accountability.
 
 
And like many, I share a distrust over the militarization of our police forces and that displayed in Ferguson, I also see a disconnect.  Violent rioters are nightly looting and attacking.  A large, civil disturbance that was the justification for acquiring such equipment.  The real question should be, why isn’t it being used?  Why are the violent people still one the streets?  Why haven’t they arrested dozens or hundreds?  Why aren’t they protecting the innocent citizens of Ferguson and their property?  It can only be politics.  The politics of Eric Holder, who ordered the Ferguson police to not release the video of Brown’s attacking a man in a store minutes before being shot.  The police chief defied Holder and obeyed the law, releasing the video as required by a freedom of information request.  And again, compare this to Zimmerman, where a firearm was used legally to defend against a violent attack.  Is this what Holder, Obama & the liberal press are trying to smear?  The right to self defense?
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  1. Anita, what was your point of your post earlier?

    • Which one? The meme? I think it’s self explanatory. I was referring to your use of the term Martial Law.

      • OH, so what would you call a 12 pm to 5 am curfew (for all people) that will be enforced through violence? Freedom?

        • Security..not Martial Law. I think of Martial Law as a long term thing…bringing with it it’s own set of laws. We’re not there.

          • Why long term? who made up that silly rule? remember when the Boston bomber was being chased (stay in your house or face arrest)? Same thing. When your freedoms to leave your home are denied by government force, you are in defacto Martial Law, period. Whether it lasts a few hours or a few months don’t matter. Curfews are a big part of Martial Law, usually from dark till dawn, but still, a curfew. One faces arrest for leaving ones home without just cause is nothing short of ML. I do not need the govt to protect me by denying my freedom, that’s F-ing anti-freedom not security. You should re-read Franklin’s quote about giving up freedom for security, might learn something 😉

            • giving up freedom for security

              If that’s your definition then we’ve been in ML since the first peace officer was sworn in. Doesn’t make sense. You’re really stretching the definition to suit your argument.

              • Is it really giving up freedom for security when it is temporary and for a good reason-is it not more a matter of a temporary compromise in order to live in a civilized society?

              • gmanfortruth says:

                Why should anyone give up their right to free speech and assembly because the cops can’t control a minority of people who are acting illegally?

                Should we allow businesses to be forcibly closed because it’s robbed too much and innocents might get hurt in a robbery?

                Should we be denied our rights to denounce government action because it MAY lead to violence?

                Cops don’t like protests when the protest is AIMed at them. cops don’t like when people can defend themselves better than they claim , see New Orleans after Katrina and ask those folks how safe they felt with the Gubmint in full charge snd weapons forcibly taken.

                The government don’t want you or I to be responsible in the conditions that occurred, so they said “screw your rights”. Just like New Orleans , Boston and now Fergason

              • Still blaming the cops, I see.

                What do you think will happen if the cops just leave?

                That ‘minority’ you speak of leaves the majority irrelevant.

              • Anita, the underlying cause of the whole thing is…..government actions. To believe that the solution is more government action is absurd.

                Go back in history and research the causes of riots on the streets of America. You will find that the #1 cause is government action. YOU want them to fix what they caused. You are a perfect Liberal Democrat, you should join them 😀

              • Ha! No. You are the perfect lib here G. Blame the cops/gov/whoever because a thug wanted to push his weight around. I’m from Detroit remember. The riots here were the result of the cops raiding an after hours joint. The thugs didn’t like being busted for their illegal activity and took their anger out on the cops. It always starts with thugs. You seem to thinkit always starts with cops. Bull SHIT!

        • I would call it a reasonable response to violence, if done correctly. That being the point, it’s not being done right. Those who violate the curfew want a confrontation. Give it to them. Does the mob rule or law & order. Peaceful protests should be respected. Violence should be met with force as required. They have the means to confront them with non-lethal force. It should be used. To not confront violence invites more violence.

          http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/08/beaten_to_death_at_mcdonalds.html

    • Saw this earlier. He has some great points but not sure why he used 2009? Seems dated data to me and then I become suspicious of the current numbers. Have they changed?

      PS – Does Whittle’s voice annoy anyone else? I seldom disagree with his message, but his voice just grates on me.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Whittle’s commentary is great, as usual.

      However, take note of the absolute racist viewpoints made by some of those posting comments.

      “Blacks are inherently violent” for example.

      There is also a disconnect among “whites” that the Black population is suffering from decades of problems that do in fact inhibit their ability to get out of the rut they are in. This does not mean more “welfare” but it means there needs to be some concerted effort made to figure out what would have real positive impacts and then formulate policies that would “help” them get out of this fix on their own.

      • BILL HAS GONE AND DONE IT AGAIN…

        They’re standing on the corner and they can’t speak English.
        I can’t even talk the way these people talk:
        Why you ain’t,
        Where you is,
        What he drive,
        Where he stay,
        Where he work,
        Who you be…
        And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.
        And then I heard the father talk.
        Everybody knows it’s important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can’t be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.
        In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

        People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we’ve got these knuckleheads walking around.
        The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.
        These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.
        $500 sneakers for what?
        And they won’t spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

        I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.
        Where were you when he was 2?
        Where were you when he was 12?
        Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn’t know that he had a pistol?
        And where is the father? Or who is his father?
        People putting their clothes on backward:
        Isn’t that a sign of something gone wrong?
        People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn’t that a sign of something?

        Isn’t it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?
        What part of Africa did this come from??
        We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don’t know a thing about Africa …..

        I say this all of the time. It would be like white people saying they are European-American. That is totally stupid.
        I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don’t have any connection to Africa, no more than white Americans have to Germany , Scotland , England , Ireland , or the Netherlands . The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa . So stop, already! ! !
        With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap ……… And all of them are in jail.

        Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person’s problem.
        We have got to take the neighborhood back.
        People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different ‘husbands’ — or men or whatever you call them now.
        We have millionaire football players who cannot read.
        We have million-dollar basketball players who can’t write two paragraphs. We, as black folks have to do a better job.
        Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us.
        We have to start holding each other to a higher standard..
        We cannot blame the white people any longer.’

        ~Dr.. William Henry ‘Bill’ Cosby, Jr., Ed..D.

      • The other day JAC you posted the article about the coming race war will be about class-one part of that article stuck out to me:

        “Yes, there is. But, in general, white-against-black economically impacts the future of the black community. Black-against-white has almost no measurable social impact.)”

        Now when I read this, I thought is that the most important point-it seems to me that it is black on black crime or really just the crime in these areas themselves that is the biggest factor that inhibits their ability to get out of the rut they are in. So how do we stop crime? and what other policies would you or anyone else advise because all the polices we have been using have not worked?

        • And there’s this based on past riots where they claim that riots themselves have hurt black americans over a long period of time. But of cause the riots themselves are crimes. Though I’m not sure I believe that without additional and reoccurring crime that the riots alone would account for such a long period of problems.

          How the 1960s’ Riots Hurt African-Americans

          “The riots had economically significant negative effects on blacks’ income and employment. Further, those effects may have been larger in the long run – from 1960 to 1980 – than in the short run – from 1960 to 1970.”

          “The riots significantly depressed the median value of black-owned property between 1960 and 1970, with little or no rebound in the 1970s.”

          Any American of a certain age remembers the race-related riots that tore through U. S. numerous cities in the 1960s. Between 1964 and 1971, civil disturbances (as many as 700, by one count) resulted in large numbers of injuries, deaths, and arrests, as well as considerable property damage, concentrated in predominantly black areas.

          Although the United States has experienced race-related civil disturbances throughout its history, the 1960s events were unprecedented in their frequency and scope. Law enforcement authorities took extraordinary measures to end the riots, sometimes including the mobilization of National Guard units. The most deadly riots were in Detroit (1967), Los Angeles (1965), and Newark (1967). Measuring riot severity by also including arrests, injuries, and arson adds Washington (1968) to that list. Particularly following the death of Martin Luther King in April 1968, the riots signaled the end of the carefully orchestrated, non-violent demonstrations of the early Civil Rights Movement.

          Social scientists have studied the causes of the riots for a long time. Now two NBER papers by William Collins and Robert Margo instead examine the economic impact of the riots on African Americans and on the cities where they took place. In the first paper, The Labor Market Effects of the 1960s Riots (NBER Working Paper No. 10243), they find that the riots had economically significant negative effects on blacks’ income and employment. Further, those effects may have been larger in the long run – from 1960 to 1980 – than in the short run – from 1960 to 1970.

          Until 1975, the racial gap in average earnings among full-time male workers in the United States narrowed. There were periods of sharp convergence, as in the 1940s, alternating with periods of relative stasis, as in the 1950s and early 1960s. After 1970, racial convergence in earnings slowed markedly, in part because many low-wage black males were no longer engaged in full-time work, the authors note. The proportion of blacks living in high-poverty urban neighborhoods increased as well, and residential segregation led to increasingly poor socioeconomic outcomes among young blacks. In this context, Collins and Margo attempt to detect whether the riots contributed to a downward economic spiral that hurt employment opportunities, incomes, and property values.

          Although they characterize their baseline estimates as “tentative,” Collins and Margo find a relative decline in median black family income of approximately 9 percent in cities that experienced severe riots relative to those that did not, controlling for several other relevant city characteristics. There is also some evidence of an adverse effect on adult male employment rates, particularly in the 1970s. Between 1960 and 1980, severe riot cities had relative declines in male employment rates of 4 to 7 percentage points. Individual-level data for the 1970s suggests that this decline was especially large for men under the age of 30.

          In the second paper, The Economic Aftermath of the 1960s Riots: Evidence from Property Values (NBER Working Paper No. 10493), Margo and Collins investigate the influence of riots on central city residential property values, especially black-owned properties. They find that the riots significantly depressed the median value of black-owned property between 1960 and 1970, with little or no rebound in the 1970s. The baseline estimates for severe-riot cities relative to small-or-no-riot cities range from approximately 14 to 20 percent for black-owned properties, and from 6 to 10 percent for all central-city residential properties. Household-level data for the 1970s indicate that the racial gap in property values widened substantially in riot-afflicted cities relative to others.

          The exact mechanisms through which the riots affected economic activity over a long period of time are difficult to identify, but a large number of potentially reinforcing channels exist. Property risk might seem higher in central city neighborhoods than before the riots, causing insurance premiums to rise; taxes for income redistribution or more police and fire protection might increase, and municipal bonds may be more difficult to place; retail outlets might close; businesses and employment opportunities might relocate; middle and higher income households might move away; burned out buildings might be an eyesore; and so on. These damaging aspects of riots, the authors find, apparently outweighed outside assistance directed toward the riot areas in the wake of the disturbances.

          — David R. Francis

          http://www.nber.org/digest/sep04/w10243.html

          • From personal experience. Three years ago before I left the job in Brooklyn, In East NY , Brownsville and Bedford Stuyvesant, there were STILL vacant lots that used to be commercial enterprises before the riots of the 1960’s.

            Nobody in their right mind would take the chance of building a business there again nor insuring it. The really ugly “riot gates” that cover storefronts throughout NYC are a direct result of the ’60’s riots and insurance companies response. Want insurance? Then, put up the gates.

            Today and for the next few years Brooklyn is undergoing a Renaissance. Many of the vacant lots are now being redeveloped into housing and commercial ventures. This is not in Black neighborhoods. It is in neighborhoods that were formerly black or minority and are now being gentrified by very upscale people, Many are minority but the bulk are young white yuppies and they all share certain things in common. They all have an education and they all have money. . .

            Draw your own conclusions.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          V.H.

          I don’t have any easy or handy answers. I think some of our “leaders” need to stop telling what the solutions are and go to these areas and “listen”. They may find out that the locals who really want positive changes do not want or need what is being sold.

          I remember years ago when some did this the answer was “more police” to chase the “criminals away”. But then we passed new drug laws which criminalized more of the kids in the neighborhoods.

          So I think addressing the inequity of the drug laws in a necessary item. This could backfire if there are not also efforts to get these neighborhoods cleaned up and small businesses established.

          We should stop forced integration, it has a counter productive affect on the poor areas. Instead we should be bringing quality schools into the black community. So what if all the kids in school are black. What matters is that they are learning the three R’s.

          We need to challenge and attack publicly those who continue the “race war” rhetoric. I could be wrong but I think part of the problem is that multiple generations are “taught” that their plight is due to “oppression”. It doesn’t take long to destroy motivation and dreams if young folks are told from day one they have zero chance due to X, Y or Z. Recent soon turns to hatred. Cheered on by those who benefit from the chaos.

          I am struck by the differences in the “black” folks plight between the “cities” and the small towns or country. They may face racism but it does not hold them hostage. They strive and thrive. Of course the same can be said of “poor” white folks trapped in the cities.

          So maybe the cities themselves are part of the problem. 🙂

          I think Mr. Cosby and others are absolutely correct, however. It is really up to the Black Community to get their act together and address their own problems. WE can give some help but we cannot solve the problems by creating more policies or simply dumping more money on the fire.

          I am constantly reminded of the comment made to me years ago by a “Democratic Party” leader. “Welfare is the price we pay to keep “them” from moving out of the city and into the urban/rural areas”. While you will not catch a Democrat making the same statement today, their policy proposals and attitudes follow the same train of thought. At leas that is my opinion of them.

          Now let me relate a story my wife shared last night. She met a lady at the gym yesterday. She is a retired Police Officer from Oakland, CA. So is her husband. They moved to N. Idaho to “escape” Oakland where she said, “I was terrified most of the time, even though I was a cop”. She and her husband have young children and decided to “escape” as soon as they could.

          When conditions are such that even cops lives under constant fear it does not bode well for the rest of those living there.

      • And when a prominent black conservative tries to speak out, look what he gets back:

        http://wordpress.com/tag/larry-elder/

    • And if those kids had locked their doors and driven away -we would be receiving lectures about being racists.

  2. Just A Citizen says:

    For all those howling about the over reach by the Ferguson police dept.

    Note that the “militarized” appearance occurs around August 12th. The Police Chief ASKS folks to disperse by dark but does not impose a curfew. Yet it is reported widely that he did in fact impose a curfew. Which makes the anti everythings irate.

    So lets step back in time. Why oh why would the police have made such a ridiculous response to PEACEFUL demonstrations?

    Well the shooting occurs on August 9th. The next day there is peaceful demonstrations and a candlelight vigil. Which then turns into rioting, looting and even shooting.

    That is August 10th. Here is a report on the incident that evening. Please note the two “tweets” by somebody on the scene. One claims “no” police are around.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/looting-erupts-after-vigil-slain-missouri-teen-michael-brown-n177426

    So what is the police supposed to do when they are told that similar demonstrations will occur again the next day? Are they to stand by and let the mob turn to burning down what ever they want?

    And GMan, the “white guy” who was reported to be tossing shit at the cops, from within the crowd, was identified by people “within the crowd” as a “white anarchist”.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      What you should be asking is why the cops did nothing about the looting at the beginning. They were told to stand down and hold their positions against all the protestors. JAC, the cops should pound those being violent, they don’t, they rarely do in most cases because they can’t pound those who are acting under govt orders. So they sit back and play with gas and rubber bullets, arrest a few peaceful protestors and demand that ALL people give up their rights

      • The looters are acting under government orders?

        • I’m sorry Anita, the correct term is “agent provocateur”. It’s commonly used in the US and in foreign nations. The Ukraine riots were a great example, much of which is widely publicized. Go back and look at the videos of the last Republican convention that occurred in Pittsburgh (some years back), they were caught red handed, only to have the MSM cover for them.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Gman

        Try reading the local accounts, as well as those I posted.

        The police arrested about 30 people that Sunday night during the looting and vandalism spree.

        They did NOT just stand by. Your SOURCES look like bull shit to me.

        • Of course arrests were made, but who and why. I have read plenty on the occurrences, including witness accounts. Maybe your sources, likely the MSM are full of shit as well (which is all the time). It was the police who said they were told to stand down, try getting better sources.

          • Give us some of your sources, by name, not a website claiming ‘sources’

          • G, maybe you should explain your feelings on this because I think we’re all misunderstanding you. You seem to blame the police -then it’s the government that’s making them stand down. You seem to want the police to act but then you seem to claim it’s government agents infiltrating the protesters that are causing people to riot. I am lost and I gotta say some of your sources are so extreme and biased in their views, I think they are worse than the talking heads in the media that you complain about.

            Call me confused 🙂

            • VH, being confused is exactly what the Statists want you to be, your not alone, Anita has your back and JAC has both backs 😀

              This Fergason thing just didn’t happen because some fat thug got shot, it is because of years of government (cops) actions within the community. THe claim is a “white” cop shot a “black” unarmed man. Take away all the racist fluff that government have indoctrinated people with and you have a cop shot and large criminal who just beat his ass in his own police car. Then he charged the injured cop and got his large criminal ass shot dead. It should be over at this point, but, without racism, where would the Democrats be? Unemployed. Without government causing the tension that led to the protests, there would be no protests, Without violence, the government can’t pretend to protect people (which they can’t and are not expected to, legally). Without government, NONE of this would likely have happened.

              The cop was right in defending himself, as far as I can tell based on the info released. Did the large criminal act because of his recent crime or because of how the govt cops treat people in his neighborhood? The protestors seem to think the latter. If the cop was black would all this have happened, I say YES. It’s convenient for the government to play the race card, but not needed for protests about police actions.

              What you should never be confused about is allowing the government to pretend to protect you by taking away your rights. Their are many words for that, I will stick to my past claims and call it Naziism. Call it Communism if you like, basically the same thing with subtle differences.

              To clarify, I think the cop was right by defending himself. I also think that the response by the people was a result of how the cops treated the people over a long period of time. Was all the rioting caused by protestors, NO, it never is. Many are outsiders, many get a few bucks for their actions, many get arrested and released with no charges. Many should get shot, but they rarely are. But the deal is this, when you give up your rights voluntarily today, you will give them up by force tomorrow. Your security is your responsibility, not the cops, not the Feds, nobody’s but yours. Use common sense and you’ll be fine. Let government take your rights when they don’t have that authority, you are their slave!

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Kathy

      Don’t fall for the trap of Left IS Liberal.

      Brand is talking about “liberalism” for the most part. Although he is in fact on the left when it comes to things like “Federal Healthcare”.

      The other guy doesn’t understand that spouting vitriol and hatred towards others is what got him and others booted from MSNBC. So in that sense you could say the network was in fact conservative. Because they refused to allow its ratings and income to drop below zero.

      • It is the language again. JFK was a liberal, Hubert Humphrey, Harry Truman and even FDR were Liberals. Since the riot at the ’68 Dem convention, the party has gone RADICAL. In ’72 they picked McGovern. They elected the peanut farmer, they elected Clinton whom everybody forgets was off the wall left for his first two years. Remember Hillarycare? Then Newt handed his head to him, he moved to the center to salvage his place in history. Some may actually remember that at about that time Hillary started sharing cookie recipes. Obama, well, he sure ain’t no JFK and he even scares the hell out of Bill and Hillary. Not Cuoeo though, that one is cut from the same cloth. So is Warren.

    • Yikes! Is it OK to laugh at that??? Don’t even know how I can safely respond these days. Rock must have had major backlash on this skit. Wish it would resurface……………………………………………………………..

      • I don’t know if it’s OK or not. But if it’s wrong, why is it EVER OK for Chris Rock to say to begin with? It’s only funny when people aren’t angry? Or is it certain people? What about Wilson, his friends & family hearing his Gov. call for his vigorous prosecution? The media published his home address & he’s had death threats. Because there is an investigation, he probably can’t even speak out on this issue.

        I normally don’t deliberately try & offend people. On this I may push a little. If they are offended, maybe it’s their problem. I need to see if I can nominate Mr. Brown for a Darwin Award. The question will be if he has passed along his DNA & fathered a child. If not, he should win the year for his last words. “What ya gonna do, shoot me”?

  3. Remember you read it here first……I just found out myself…..nothing will be announced nationally until after the November elections….

    Effective January 1, 2015, all military repair facilities, nationwide, will close.All military repairs to all wheeled and tracked vehicles, as well as heavy weapons vehicles, will be outsourced. All government employees associated with these facilities, approximately 110,000 will be permanently laid off.

    Let’s see how long it takes for this information to become public. We just found out by verbal communication….nothing written will be disseminated until Dec 1, 2014.

    • Oh, Merry Christmas to the 110,000.

      • Don’t they train servicemen and women to service military equipment….why not insource? And who gets the bid? The Muslim Bros? or the Chinese since they have our R&D anyway.

        • Would bet the companies that built them in the first place will have an edge. Will help the “military complex” liberals complain about & WallStreet and at the same time, drive up costs & worsen our military abilities…

          • Another interesting factor in what you say. With the drawdown, proposed which will happen come hell or ISIS, we are going to have a replay of the post cold war era when we lost many of the manufacturers. Allowing them to rebuild and modernize will keep them open. Of course if you lose places like the Army depot at Aniston Alabama, then you lose those employees, their skill sets and their ability to ramp up quickly in an emergency.

            I would not discount the fact that the government hogs in DC might just be more interested in keeping their big contributors healthy rather than the peons in Alabama and elsewhere.

            • Agree but see some other factors. Obama is shifting the military to a more tek dependent & less bodies in uniform. This will blow up some cost.. I wonder though where he has always looked to cut military spending and increase entitlement how this will play out on the budget? No quest that this will result in a vastly weakened military someone else will inherit in “16 along with a world in turmoil…

    • So no official announcements until after the mid-term elections. Hope the media gets this story & reports it before then…

  4. The problem IS government:
    Upon further investigation, two more patterns run parallel with the crime rates in these cities. The first is that black Americans comprise more than 55 percent of the population of these crime ridden cities. Could you infer that black Americans in the inner city equate to higher crime rate? Perhaps. But let us dig further.

    Along another parallel we see that in each of these cities a Democrat holds the mayorship, and from the point the crime rates began to climb, Democrats were in control. I surmise from this that either black Americans are voting for people who are tolerant of crime since there has been no change other than a consistent or raising rate of overall violence, or liberal policies, weak leadership and an agenda that ensures a Democratic voting base from a poverty stricken underclass, will allow crime to flourish.

    Read the rest of this Patriot Update article here: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/race-crime/#fiMtSBIKEi0pI3EA.99

  5. Just a thought: If we all agreed all the time, this place would be like HuffPo, a bunch of people patting each other on the back all the time. I would rather get different points of view, argue my own and maybe get a better perspective on things down the road. Things change over time, people change and think differently as well. I read all kinds of differing views on the events we chat about. The links I post, may only be for discussion, not because I believe what is written, I generally take multiple articles to gain a perspective that I present. One site or article is not worthy of claiming a position, however, after 10 or so, I may be inclined to hold that view.

    I mentioned to JAC about ignoring Infowars today, mostly because they are considered less than an accurate news source, for many good reasons. They do present some good articles on subjects that usually show up a week later on Fox or some other big name news site. My rule, read everything with an open mind, draw conclusions AFTER multiple sources confirm the story, regardless of the potential of CT claims.

    That’s the fun of taking some of my positions on subjects, I don’t jump head first, I get a lot of different views and watch lots of videos. That’s also why I stick to my position so firmly most of the time, I do my homework.

    On a different note, the NFL season is coming fast, as usual I’m rooting for the Dolphins to hopefully unseat the Patriots as AFC East Champs. Go Dolphins! I also like the Packers, Lions (long overdue for a title), Browns (poor bastards) and the Cowboys (who will have a sucky defense). I really don’t like the Jets, the Steelers and the Patriots (they cheat). This is a good weekend for football, the 3rd preseason games. Time to get out the salsa and beer 🙂

    • You were doing pretty good when you supported the Packers and then you went downhill with that Lions comment.

      • Smack talkin already? Bring it. Ford Field. Sept 21. Don’t send a boy to do a man’s job.

      • I’m looking forward to the games between the two teams, it should be fun football to watch. I’ll be watching the Packers play Oakland at 8pm tonight. Looking forward to see how the starters for GB play in the first half. On Saturday, I’ll watch TB/Buf at 4:30 then Mia/Dal at 7:30, then watch the end of the Hou/Den game. It’s nice to be able to watch all the preseason games live this year. GO DOLPHINS 🙂

  6. Don't Mess With Me says:
  7. A police officer in Ferguson’s viewpoint…

    https://dissonantwinstonsmith.wordpress.com/

    • Good post-I found this part very interesting:

      In Reference to Media Suppression

      “By now everyone has seen the footage of a tactical officer demanding a reporter leave a McDonalds restaurant. Mr. Media was apparently arrested after taking his time to leave. In my opinion, which I won’t claim as humble, the reporter completely discredits himself by neglecting to mention that he had been asked to leave the restaurant by the staff. If attempting to argue a moral high ground and supposed attack on your civil rights, it might be best to include the whole story which in this case includes the act of trespassing. The reporter’s civil rights don’t trump the business’ civil rights to demand you leave when you use their restaurant as an office.

      Additionally, by now everyone has also seen the KSDK footage, still image above, of Al Jazeera reporters running after a tear gas canister landed near them. St. Charles County’s Tactical Unit moved in and broke down the camera equipment which they secured in police vehicles. Do you know what happened to that equipment? It was turned back over to Al Jazeera. It wasn’t destroyed. It wasn’t left for the looters. They got their cameras back. Al Jazeera contends that officers had tear gas purposefully shot at them, but looking at the area on the night in question, tear gas was everywhere.

      Is it possible that one tactical unit thought it would be funny or justified to launch a canister at them? Yes, and that doesn’t make it right if true. However, looking at other media reports, reporters are now regularly claiming that they were gassed specifically when they have been standing with or off to the side of violent demonstrators. If police try to clear the media out before using gas they’re accused of trying to suppress the media’s freedom of the press. If police let them stay, they’re gassing the media which is apparently also evidence of media suppression.

      Police tactics shouldn’t have to be cleared with the media first. What’s more, the notion that there is some type of unified operational decision to suppress the media is an outright lie. The simple fact is that the demonstrators have had no problem taking selfies and other footage since the beginning, even of themselves committing crimes, with no attempt at suppression from the police. It’s actually been somewhat fun to go through images posted online and play a Where’s Waldo game of trying to locate my face in Instagram postings, particularly those images posted from the looters back on 8/10/2014.

      The implication by claiming media suppression is that the police are acting in a manner comparable to a Middle Eastern dictatorship and removing the media’s ability to cover the news in order to hide worse abuses that are actively happening, but of which they’re not able to find evidence. And yet, the media hasn’t been able to find their Rodney King moment. The reason why there have been so few deaths and so little opportunities for pictures of police fighting with suspects, is because arrests have been so limited. Take for example the death toll of two examples (Wiki sources for both):

      -The Watts Riots resulted in 34 deaths and 1,032 injuries, but also 3,438 arrests. Interestingly the event lasted only 5 days.
      -The LA Riots resulted in 53 deaths and 2,000+ injuries, but also 11,000+ arrests. This event was over in 6 days.

      In the case of the Ferguson riots we’ve had 2 confirmed deaths (excluding Mike Brown), uncalculated injuries, but only around 100 arrests, most of which are from the last several days. Is it any wonder that the riots have gone on for 10-11 days and counting? What’s more, there are rumors beginning to spread that Ofc. Wilson might be cleared in the shooting. If that happens, whether justified or not, the riots will escalate. A Grand Jury is set to convene this week to decide whether charges are warranted against Ofc. Wilson.

      My point is that if police actually wanted to crack down on the protesters and the media, there are a lot more effective and conclusive ways of doing so than to simply launch gas and stand back. CS Gas isn’t fun to be sure. I experienced it for myself first hand on Sunday. However, its effects wear off almost as soon as you get out of the way. As someone who has also been cross contaminated with mace (OC spray) before, let me tell you, that doesn’t go away when you leave and is far more painful. If there was a concerted effort to crack down on the media, why not just institute a complete media blackout and start arresting everyone with a press pass? The media is already regularly accusing the police of suppressing them. How would the narrative change if they really started to do so at an operational level? The news has essentially become the boy who cried media suppression.”

      • Interestingly, The only form of said “media suppression” was telling the media to remain in a taped off area some distance from the clashes. This is obviously for the media’s safety, at least in my opinion, BUT, it is not the police’s job to dictate to the media where they report from during these events, nor is it in the cops best interest (if they are acting within the law). The Right of the Free Press should be seriously protected, especially when it comes to the alternative media. It’s the only source of real news that’s not tweaked by the authorities. We all know the MSM is tweaked constantly, and that has been documented (CNN anyone?)

        The reporters are acting at their own risk and all understand that, the price can be their life, they picked their job, let them do it freely. It is also important to remember all the civilians who have been arrested for filming police in action, which is protected activity under the 1st Amendment, yet, the cops seem to ignore this simple reality on a regular basis.

        The only issue I have had with the whole thing was the curfew. Although the militarized police have much to be desired and I disagree with this policy of militarization.

        • I agree with most of the things you posted here-but there is one point you should acknowledge-the media isn’t just endangering their own lives, they can in many ways endanger the police officers lives by inhibiting their ability to do their jobs.

          And as much as I agree that the police have overstepped there authority when they stop people from filming them-lets not put that charge on these cops, in this situation, unless they are personally guilty of doing so.

      • Out of 163 arrests, only seven had Ferguson home addresses. The rioters & looters are from other townships, cities or even out of state. Be interesting to hear a judge weight their crimes with where they are from. Imagine a looter that assaulted an office from out of state. I would expect him to get the maxim sentence possible.

        https://news.yahoo.com/quieter-night-ferguson-fewer-protesters-071120243.html

  8. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2014/08/22/open-letter-of-warning-to-governor-nixon-from-missouri-oath-keepers-2/

    The current riot control tactics of the local police, rooted in outmoded techniques developed in the 1950’s – and only made worse by the ongoing militarization of our police – are failing the people of Ferguson, giving them a false choice between rampant looting on the one hand, and hyper-militarized police and curfews on the other (which also fail to stop the looting, leaving the mistaken impression among many of the American people that even more militarization and curtailment of free speech and assembly is needed).

    • Now this is a good article. Helps me understand what they did wrong and gives ways to correct those mistakes. The threat at the end was a little bit militarized but other than that-helps me understand instead of just inflaming the situation with over the top words of condemnation.

      • I agree. It’s hard to put away emotions when a subject is emotional 🙂 I can’t always get my point across the way I want to, so things like this help. This stuck out to me (what I was trying to convey): (which also fail to stop the looting, leaving the mistaken impression among many of the American people that even more militarization and curtailment of free speech and assembly is needed).

        As Americans, we should never accept curfews or military style occupation of our streets, it’s just wrong. The Boston bomber search was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Forced imprisonment in one’s own home, for even an hour, is BS!

    • Good article. I’m having a hard time with the insistence of focusing on the looters. Yes, it’s an issue, but the thugs had the upper hand at first and the cops were in reactionary mode, seems to me in a situation like this..crowd control is priority # 1. The cops had their hands full with that. What if they started grabbing looters then 10x the looters attacked police for grabbing the original looters. That kind of thing can escalate in a hurry.

      Something else stands out to me. You say the cops aren’t handling the situation right but you want the cops to go after the looters. I thought the cops can’t handle it? But now you want them to stop the looters, so which is it? I noticed two businesses that were not messed with by looters… a tattoo joint/gun store combo…they stood outside their buildings, armed, and didn’t get messed with. That’s the way to go when the cops had their hands full.

      • I don’t think anyone has the perfect answer. I have a few questions though. When the protests were peaceful at the beginning, why did the cops show up in force to begin with? Wouldn’t traffic control to reroute traffic been a better idea? If cops aren’t trying to suppress free speech, maybe they would have time to arrest looters, yes?

        The guys with the guns (which Obama seemed to mention in a negative way) is certainly the way to go. Looters won’t attack armed citizens, most of them a petty thieves just taking advantage of “busy cops”. Based on LOI’s post, only 7 locals were arrested. Which tells me that the protestors were mostly peaceful, which is why I asked first question.

        The peaceful protestors were engaged by the militarized police, BEFORE anything illegal occurred. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that the authorities don’t want the people questioning their authority and wanted to suppress free speech and assembly, otherwise, the cops would have been able to handle the looters, who likely would not have looted if the cops were engaging the peaceful protestors. Many folks , like myself, think it was the mere presence of the militarized police that led to the violence to begin with.

        My suggestion to cops, watch from a distance, control traffic, support the protestors in their protest, help them stay peaceful. Engaging them with an army only enflames the situation, which leads to riots. Just sayin 🙂

        By the way Anita, how’s your weather? We have had so much rain we could send 3/4s of it to California and still not have to water the garden 🙂 Hi’s in the 70’s, Low’s in the 50″s. Good sleeping weather 🙂

        • OH, I think most cops are good people in general. Militarizing them is a mistake and should be reversed.

        • We were in a temporary drought with nice temps..but everything started browning up from no rain…then we got slammed with the four inches last week and suddenly everything is green again…but now we have the hot & muggies! ugh! Look out, it’s headed your way.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          gman

          Re: “I don’t think anyone has the perfect answer. I have a few questions though. When the protests were peaceful at the beginning, why did the cops show up in force to begin with? ”

          They did NOT show up in force nor try to control the peaceful demonstrations in the beginning. I posted the local NBC story the other day yet you ignore its content. The same can be found on the web from the local papers.

          The day after the shooting there were peaceful demonstrations which “at dark” turned into rioting and looting. There were over 30 arrests made the FIRST NIGHT after the shooting.

          This is why the chief of police ASKED the demonstrators to return home after dark. Because that is when the looters and violent agitators were doing their thing.

          What we were provided by the media, as an overkill police response, was the combined force two and three days after the initial looting and burning of businesses.

          So Anita’s question is dead on. What the hell do you want them to do? If they show up in force to try and prevent further rioting and looting they are a “militarized force of thugs” and imposing “martial law”. If they stand back and do nothing they are “incompetent”.

  9. A short hijack, due to the absurdity of Hamas:

    According to The Conservative Post and The Most Important News, the Hamas held an Islamic Funeral and had it uploaded on the internet. However, there were other cameras at the ceremony too and they caught something missing from it: dead people. That’s right! Someone recording the funeral caught the corpses moving! Now it should also be reported there is no confirmation that all of the bodies are living, but the fact that numerous “corpses” moved (probably not knowing they were being filmed) shows the Hamas will do whatever it takes to have mainstream media support them.
    Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1424436/hamas-propaganda-fail-gaza-corpses-are-caught-moving-when-they-forget-cameras-are-on-video/#Y92SuoqxoJFXQeqt.99

    This video is funny in some ways. You just can’t make this shit up 😀

    • Except that’s not what happened:

      Update: As it turns out, the video is fake. The clip is actually from a protest meet held in Egypt by a few university students and is not from Gaza as claimed in the re uploaded clip. We apologize for the error in reporting.
      Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1424436/hamas-propaganda-fail-gaza-corpses-are-caught-moving-when-they-forget-cameras-are-on-video/#1Y8MsKZa44zf0gHD.99

      • It was funny though-I have noticed something missing from the news lately-not hearing the word Islamaphobia anywhere.

        • Maybe because the Islamaphobist’s were right all along 🙂

          • David Skekabim says:

            …or because the normal media-spin-hypno-mantra cannot simultaneously convince a nation full of Christians to respect their Muslim neighbors while also mustering support for military action against Muslim radicals who are violating Christians abroad.

            This is probably because a lot of people cannot discern the difference between a Muslim and a radical Muslim. It is much easier to simply hate all Muslims than it is to think, …especially when presented with a huge bandwagon of fear and hate.

            • …or, it isn’t just ISIS that people hear about. There are lots of reports, pictures, video’s etc that show barbarianism within the Muslim religion, even against their own. Honor killings? That’s one that has been heard of quite a lot. Their killing each other, not to dismiss the mass slaughter of Christians in many Muslim countries. While I don’t think the vast majority of Muslims are evil violent people, the silence of the majority is speaking volumes.

              Think of it this way, if only 1% of Muslims are radical, how many is that? Ten Million or so! That’s a rather large minority.

              Anita, you are near Dearborn, what’s the whispers in their community about the subject?

              I don’t know many Muslim’s these days, those I knew seemed nice enough and just wanted to live life like you and I. Groups like ISIS are making it hard to accept Islam as a peaceful religion. Their actions tell the story, not the left wing media.

              • David Skekabim says:

                The same arguments can be equally applied to a wide range of groups all throughout history. It is always the demonization of a group of people as a rationalization to justify an action or in support of an idea.

                …or, it isn’t just ______ that people hear about. There are lots of reports, pictures, video’s etc that show barbarianism within the ______, even against their own. ______? That’s one that has been heard of quite a lot. Their______ each other, not to dismiss the mass slaughter of ______ in many places. While I don’t think the vast majority of______ are evil violent people, ______ is speaking volumes.

                The issue isn’t this or that specific people or culture. It’s people.

            • I wish I could find the reference but there was an article years ago in “National Review” by Dinish DeSouza regarding Islam and its being firmly stuck in the 7th century. It was called something like Islam 2.0. The article hammered the frustrations of clerics and Islamic scholars that their religion, the only true one cannot seen to catch on in modern times and their countries are being left in the dust development wise by everyone else.

              Every time the excesses of Islamic extremists are pointed out somebody will bring up the Westboro Baptist Church or some Wacko Zionist Jew who goes nuts with an assault rifle. These are not fair comparisons. Those people are few and far between. In Islam It is not 1 % thats fundamentalist. It is 10 % and that is 100 million. The religion exists the way it does because of then use of force and coercion. Bitch and moan as much as you want about Christianity because there were incidents of force and coercion, they were much later in the history of its establishment. Islam went bad on day one.

              Islam means “submission”. And this is literal. The religion permeates all aspects of life. What would be interesting would be to see how the Jews came to modify the laws laid out in Leviticus. They to were pretty harsh (hah!) but somehow they managed to tone them down.

              • David Skekabim says:

                John 8:3 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst 4 they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. 5 Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” 6 This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.

                Matthew 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

      • Bummer 😦 Although this kind of stuff would not be surprising in todays world.

  10. Down 79 pounds, amici … but here’s some institutional racism at its best … what happened in Texas v. Ferguson, MI …
    http://jdrhoades.blogspot.com/2014/08/message-from-ferguson.html?spref=fb

    • Congrats on the weight loss Charlie!

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Charlie

      This meme started a week ago by Daily Kos. The writers there have been working hard to get this to be the storyline. It took about 4 days but the rest of the left leaning writers and bloggers finally go the message.

      Only problem is that they are not actually comparable. And on glaring problem is that there were a few BLACK folks at the Bundy protest. One of them was Bundy’s body guard. The same black man who defended Bundy later when the media tried to paint him a raving lunatic racist.

      In the Bundy situation it was the Feds who first showed up over armed and trying to restrict Freedom of Speech. It was the local Sheriff who kept things from exploding.

      In Ferguson none of that happened until AFTER the rioting and looting started.

      Since we are on this let me address one of Daily Kos’ other stupid comparisons. That being why didn’t the militia run to help Furguson. Would you run to help those people who were constantly calling you right wing crazies and racist pigs?

      I also wonder how the Black Leaders and community would have viewed a few hundred well armed white men showing up in their town. Think they would have been viewed as friendly supporters?

      One more very important thing. Despite what the left claims about the Bundy situation, IT AINT OVER. He will have to comply with the Court Order. He was not “let go” as many on the left are trying to portray.

      • On the Bundy issue, if the Feds had a legal case they would have been finished by now. I’m not seeing your claim that it’s NOT over, at least legally. The Feds don’t delay court actions when they have the upper hand, in this case, it seems they have been shut down quite nicely 😀

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Charlie

      One more thing. The Bundy ranch is in NEVADA, not Texas. Just for clarity sake, in case you want to use it again sometime.

    • I could point out the murder in the Mosque in NYC where the killing of an officer after a fake call of a disturbance in the Mosque was not only never resolved but covered up by the Mayor, Police Commissioner and Manhattan DA. Here is a link to the book which is expensive, out of print and hard to come by. Hell of a who-done-it. Ought to interest a crime writer like yourself.

      http://www.amazon.com/Murder-Harlem-mosque-Sonny-Grosso/dp/0517529718

    • It is a good dialogue-I think that one observation, that the black subculture is the face of black culture, is a truth that could lead us to an answer if both white and black would own up to it and the consequences it creates.

      One truth-the attitudes and criminal behavior in these neighborhoods cause the friction between the residents and the cops.

      Second truth-If one walks into an area they look at as a “war zone” the cops are more likely to over react than they would in an area where they don’t expect to be harassed and killed.

      Third truth-the answer lies in the decent citizens to help the cops get rid of the criminal element and the police department to work very hard on getting rid of any cops who are burnt out.

  11. Seems we have another instance of changing the meaning of words. Medically necessary now means because I want it-not I need it.

    One must remember that there are elective procedures-meaning not medically necessary- that can become necessary medically but that is not what is happening here.

    Abortions Must Be Covered by Health Insurance Companies in California, Officials Rule
    Aug. 23, 2014 7:17pm Dave Urbanski
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    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (TheBlaze/AP) — Health insurance companies in California may not refuse to cover the cost of abortions, state insurance officials have ruled, reversing a policy stemming from the decision by two Catholic universities to drop elective abortions from their employee health plans.

    Although the federal Affordable Care Act does not compel employers to provide workers with health insurance that includes abortion coverage, the director of California’s Department of Managed Health Care said in a letter to seven insurance companies on Friday that the state Constitution and a 1975 state law prohibits them from selling group plans that exclude the procedure. The law in question requires such plans to encompass all “medically necessary” care.
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    “Abortion is a basic health care service,” department director Michelle Rouillard wrote in the letter. “All health plans must treat maternity services and legal abortion neutrally.”

    Jesuit-run Santa Clara University and Loyola Marymount University notified employees last fall that they planned to stop paying for elective abortions, but said faculty and staff members could pay for supplemental coverage that would be provided through a third party. The two schools said their insurers, Anthem Blue Cross and Kaiser Permanente, had cleared the move with the state.

    University employees who objected to the decision and abortion-rights groups lobbied the women’ caucus of the California Legislature, which in turn asked Gov. Jerry Brown to clarify and reverse the health care department’s determination.

    In her letter to the insurers, Roullaird said her department had “erroneously approved or did not object” to a small number of health insurance policies that excluded abortions. She asked the companies to review their plans, including any the department had already approved, to make sure they are in accordance with the new guidance.

    The two insurance companies told the San Jose Mercury News that they would comply with the directive. Loyola and Santa Clara representatives said they would explore their options with Anthem Blue Cross and Kaiser Permanente.

    Two groups that oppose abortion, the Life Legal Defense Foundation and Alliance Defending Freedom, sent a letter to Rouillard on Friday saying that under federal law California cannot force employers to cover elective abortions. The groups said they would file a civil rights complaint with the federal government unless the state’s previous determination was reinstated.

    “Pro-life employers have the freedom to choose health insurance plans that do not conflict with their beliefs on the dignity of human life,” Life Legal Defense Foundation Legal Director Catherine Short said. “California cannot be allowed to discriminate against health plans that don’t cover elective abortions and force people to purchase coverage that conflicts with their convictions.”

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/23/abortions-must-be-covered-by-health-insurance-companies-in-california-officials-rule/

    • One more point-I’m sure that this change, based on the absolute absurdity of the argument, is limited to being used only in referencing abortion. If not, I really want a face lift, tummy tuck, and some liposuction-maybe even a butt lift. MY mental health simply demands it.

  12. Love this quote. Think it over.

    “What are the facts? Again and again and again – what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what “the stars foretell,” avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable “verdict of history” – what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your single clue. Get the facts!”

    ― Robert A. Heinlein

  13. Shout out to TRay…hope you’re ok after the earthquake..

    • Didn’t feel a thing here in the foothills on top of this rock pile. Kids felt in in the Bay area. All are safe and no damage. Thanks for thinking of us.

  14. Please take note that this woman when confronted with the reality of her own extremist position-obviously doesn’t like or want to confront that reality so she attacks the one who is simply following her lead-she then resorts to claiming that the right she claims woman should have is okay because it will never really happen. Course she also, I assume doesn’t want to face the reality that it already has.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2014/08/22/pro-abortion-woman-says-its-a-womans-choice-to-abort-her-baby-at-birth/

  15. Found myself in the gutter of the internet and came up with this:

    Suge Knight shot 6 times at Chris Brown’s pre-VMAs party in Los Angeles

    The article goes on to say that he”s in ICU expected to recover and that he was sitting in a police car until the ambulance arrived and that he walked into the ambulance.

    All good.

    So this guy took 6 shots and walked away from it. But everyone is uptight because the cop in Ferguson fired 6 shots to kill Mike Brown…claiming overkill.

    Pass the popcorn

  16. We can’t have anything truthful about the vaccine/autism connection coming out, now can we: http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/cnn-ireport-on-cdc-whistleblower-spreads-like-wildfire-then-censored/

      • For 13 years, the U.S. government’s Centers for Disease Control covered up the fact of the increased risk for boys receiving the MMR vaccination on schedule.

        It turns out that the risk is far worse for blacks.

        One man inside the CDC blew the whistle. He is ashamed that he covered up.

        I wonder if this will lead to Congressional hearings.

        I wonder if any heads will roll for the sake of appearances.

        I do not wonder if the CDC’s budget will be cut. Not a chance.

        This video is very good. It is well produced. It is horrifying.

        • One man inside the CDC blew the whistle. He is ashamed that he covered up…….If he has not already lost his job…he will.

          I wonder if this will lead to Congressional hearings………No.

          I wonder if any heads will roll for the sake of appearances……very doubtful.

          I do not wonder if the CDC’s budget will be cut. Not a chance……………..agreed.

          • Nothing will happen to anyone, except the whistleblower. Lawsuits will be likely, but thats not what needs to happen. People should go to jail and lose everything they have, period. The pain they have caused cannot be changed with money (which is quickly becoming useless).

            I also think that a few folks who have been adamant about vaccines NOT being a cause should step up and at least acknowledge being wrong. You know who you are too!

  17. An interesting comment by a reader of the Daily News in NYC in response to a hatched piece on the officer involved in the Brown shooting. Probably considered racist by some just like the assault/robbery video of Brown in the convenience store.

    Does anyone remember 23 year old Detective Melvin Santiago? He was a Jersey City police officer who was ambushed and shot to death just a month ago, on July 13th. Santiago was white. His killer, Lawrence Campbell, was black. Does anyone recall Obama appearing before national television and calling for justice for Officer Santiagos family? Does anyone recall Eric Holder rushing to Jersey City to see that justice was done?

    How about Officer Jeffrey Westerfield. He was a Gary, Indiana police officer who was shot to death last month on July 6th. Westerfield was white. His killer, Carl LeEllis Blount, Jr. was black. Where was Obama? Where was Holder?

    Or Officer Perry Renn? He was an Indianapolis, Indiana police officer who was shot to death just last month on July 5th, the day before Officer Westerfield was killed. Officer Renn was white. His killer, Major Davis, was black. I don’t recall any
    mention by Obama about the untimely death of Officer Renn. And, I doubt that Eric Holder rushed to Indianapolis to make sure justice was done. Or, maybe I just missed it.

    Vermillion Parish Deputy Sheriff Allen Bares was gunned down by two men just last June 23rd in Louisiana. Deputy Bares was white. His two killers, Quintlan Richard and Baylon Taylor, were black. Was Obama outraged? Did Eric Holder rush to Louisiana to make sure that the family of Deputy Bares found justice?

    Detective Charles Dinwiddie of the Killeen(Texas) Police Department was murdered by Marvin Lewis Guy, a black male. Officer Dinwiddie was white. This
    happened on May 11th, just over two months ago. I don’t even recall seeing anything about that on the news. Certainly, the white citizens in Killeen didn’t take to the streets to loot and burn businesses. Again, I don’t recall any mention by
    Obama or Holder.

    Then, there is Officer Kevin Jordan of the Griffin, Georgia Police Department. He was gunned down just two months ago on May 31st. Officer Jordan was black. His killer, Michael Bowman, was white. This was a white man murdering a black
    police officer. Where was Jesse Jackson? Where was “The Reverend” Al Sharpton? Was there looting and burning on the streets of Griffin, Georgia? No. In fact, I don’t recall hearing about this one in the news, as well. Why? You can draw your own conclusions.

    Over the past 60 days, there have been five reported deaths of police officers by gunshot in the US. Of those, four were white officers who were murdered by black men.

  18. I just can’t even….

    What the hell is this family thinking for allowing this?

    http://twitchy.com/2014/08/25/many-americans-of-all-backgrounds-creeped-out-by-michael-brown-funeral-livestream/

  19. Food for thought on this fine summer day 🙂

    A while back, Obama claimed Assad used chemical weapons against his own people as a pretext to military action. The whole world knew it was the US funded militants in Syria (ISIS anyone) that di this horrible act. This was verified by the UN.

    Fast forward to recent events in Syria, which a (British) member of ISIS released a video of the beheading of an American journalist. Now, all the war mongers want to attack ISIS in Syria. Add this to the reports coming out of England that forensics experts are claiming the video of the beheading was staged (six swipes of the knife, no blood) and one should consider the past when looking at the current events.

    Can anyone say “False Flag”?

      • Fresh doubt has been thrown on the narrative behind the James Foley beheading video after a Syrian government spokesperson claimed that the American journalist was killed by ISIS militants a year ago.

        Following the release of a video last week which purported to show the murder of Foley, top forensic experts concluded that the footage was staged using “camera trickery and slick post-production techniques,” concurring with Infowars’ analysis that the video was highly dubious given that it was immediately used as justification for military strikes on Syria.

        Official Syrian government spokesperson Bouthaina Shaaban has now complicated matters further by asserting that Foley was in fact murdered by Islamic State militants a year ago.

        “James Foley was first arrested by the Free Syrian Army and he was sold to ISIS [an earlier name for the IS]. You can check with the UN…James Foley was killed a year ago, not now, they only released the pictures now, but he was killed a year ago. We have definite information, the UN has the information,” said Shaaban.

        The claim contradicts the narrative that Foley’s family received a letter on August 12 from ISIS militants threatening to execute the journalist if Barack Obama gave the green light for air strikes on Islamic State militants in Iraq.

        The Foley beheading video has been used as a poster child for accomplishing what Washington failed to do in the aftermath of last year’s chemical weapons attack in Ghouta – build a consensus for a military assault on Syria. Officials and lawmakers have cited the video as providing a “new context” which legitimizes an expansion of U.S. military activity in the middle east.

        Although the air strikes will ostensibly target ISIS fighters and not Syrian government positions, Assad has repeatedly asserted that any U.S. military action in Syria will be seen as an act of war, threatening to enflame the entire region.
        http://www.prisonplanet.com/syrian-government-james-foley-killed-a-year-ago.html

  20. It is important to remember…when you are up to your ass in alligators, it is hard to remind oneself, that the initial objective was to drain the swamp.

  21. You gotta love it….a White House delegation sent to Michael Brown’s funeral…..but no one showed up at Maj General Greene…..and a low level appearance at Margaret Thatcher’s funeral.

    Ferguson is such a hot bed of violence but nothing mentioned about the shootings in Chicago and 9 in New York…..all black on black…just this weekend.

  22. Cool….for what it’s worth

    Metro Detroit Muslim leaders denounce ISIS as ‘crazy criminals’
    http://www.freep.com/article/20140825/NEWS05/308250218/Muslim-Detroit-ISIS-criminals

  23. Interesting conundrum…..Burger King saying ” I am outta here “……the corporate taxes are the highest in the world….time to move to another country ( Canada ) in this case. Warren Buffet (the highest contributor to the political left at 11 times the amount that the Koch boys give to the right) is financing the move……

    Another interesting factoid……the pipeline to Canada is stalled because Buffet own 100% of the rail lines transporting the oil……no reason that he wants the pipeline stopped….and his railroad companies……..all located in Canada….no corporate taxes to the US.

    Oh, and since I am on the soap box…..it is very simple to have a lower tax rate than your secretary, Mr, Buffet…….I notice that the salary that you paid yourself is almost the poverty level of $15,000……and with the allowable deductions from the IRS code protecting you big boys…..your effective tax rate was a whopping 12%…..on a poverty line salary.

    So, shut the hell up!!!

  24. This audio is making the rounds about the Brown shooting. The cop is a terrible shot, it seems, but I think the recording is a fake. Listen for yourself and see if you can hear what’s wrong with this claim: http://clashdaily.com/2014/08/kill-shots-captured-fbi-handed-audio-darren-wilson-dumping-guns-magazine-michael-brown/

    • How many shots are in a standard clip? If there was one fired in the car, then the total count is 12 = 1 + 7 + 4. I am no expert, but I thought a standard Glock clip holds 9 rounds. So is the pause to reload? Officers usually have to account for every round, so I would think the DA knows how many shots were fired. Six went through the victim. One should be in the car. Where are the other 5? Why didn’t the media goons even ask these questions?

  25. If the cop got his face bashed in then managed to get 6 of 10 shots into the guy with a crushed face, I’d say he was a pretty good shot.

    I don’t video chat but who records their chats?. Prove it that what is recorded is the actual shooting.

  26. Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown are very comparable in at least two very important FACTS: 1) both were unarmed … and 2) both can’t speak for themselves … dead person vs. the shooter’s word. Stand Your Ground … with a badge version.

    Thanks, G. … I’m at 79 and expecting to hit -80 tomorrow (starving myself tonight) … 77 more to go … then the marathon with my sons (bucket list … and then probably kicking the bucket. 🙂

  27. Hmmmm

    August 26, 2014
    Saudi Foreign Minister signals coexistence with Israel, pressure on Palestinians
    By Thomas Lifson

    The rise of the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS’s depredations in Syria and Iraq, and Hamas’s misrule in Gaza have finally caused the Saudis to publicly signal a rethinking of the reflexive commitment to destroying Israel. A tacit alignment of Saudi Arabia with Israel has long been discussed, but a very senior and influential member of the Saudi ruling family has very publicly declared that maybe the Jewish state can be tolerated, the Palestinians should ramp down their attempts to destroy it. AWD News reports (hat tip: Instapundit):

    Speaking on the sidelines of the world assembly of Islamic scholars in Jeddh, Saud bin Faisal Al Saud said that the Middle-East needs peace and co-existence more than ever and Saudi Arabia as a leading Islamic country is ready to make sacrifices in peace negations and encourages President Abbas to follow the same policy.

    Referring to the ongoing war in Gaza strip, the Saudi foreign Minster stressed that Hamas authority is the sole responsible for Palestinian calamity and they must brought before the law.

    The Saudi official further added that Arab World Increasingly Frustrated With Hamas which is seeking more wars.

    Wow! This comes from not exactly a pipsqueak:

    Saud bin Faisal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Arabic: سعود بن فيصل بن عبد العزيز آل سعود‎), also known as Saud Al Faisal(Arabic: سعود الفيصل‎) (born 2 January 1940), has been the foreign minister of Saudi Arabia since 1975. He is the world’s longest-serving foreign minister. (snip)

    Saud bin Faisal was born in Taif on 2 January 1940.[1][2] He is the second son of King Faisal and Iffat Al-Thunayan.[3][4] He attended the Hun School of Princeton[5] and graduated from Princeton University in 1964 or 1965 with a bachelor of arts degree in economics.[6][7] He is full brother of Mohammed bin Faisal, Turki bin Faisal,Luluwah bint Faisal, Sara bint Faisal and Haifa bint Faisal.[8]

    He became an economic consultant for the ministry of petroleum.[6] In 1966, he moved to general organization for petroleum and mineral resources (Petromin).[6] In February 1970, he became deputy governor of Petromin for planning affairs.[6] He was also a member of the High Coordination Committee.[6] In 1971, he became deputy minister of petroleum.[6] Until his appointment as state minister for foreign affairs in 1975, Prince Saud served in this post at the oil ministry.[9]

    Other than the King, there are very few Saudis who outrank him.

    Richard Fernadez of PJ Media comments:

    The Muslim world has for decades tried to destroy the Jews and in its desperation raised up one tyrant or mad fanatical movement after the other to carry out the program. And now these monsters are starting to turn on them. Syria is ruined; the ‘Arab Spring’ has burned out much of the region. Generations of young men have been brought up with no marketable skills; only a desire for suicide, an aptitude for destruction and an unquenchable hate. Perhaps the Saudis and the Gulf States are wondering if their creations will gobble them up. (snip)

    Golda Meir once said there would be peace when the Arab parents loved their children more than they hated the Jew. Or — she forgot to add — the fear of movements like al-Qaeda and ISIS grew greater than the odium for the Jewish state. The attraction of radical Islam, especially for the rootless Muslims of the west is its promise of a life without restraint. An existence beyond the laws of men or decency and — it may prove — the control of their elders. But that lack of restraint is not real freedom, rather a chain by which they are bound to a life of utter destructiveness.

    We’ll know that the Saudis are really serious when they start reining in the Wahhabi clergy and replacing the textbooks they send overseas with ones that advocate getting along with Israel.

    But before that happens, we may see some more interesting developments, such as potentially a Saudi-supported Israeli raid on the Iranian nuclear reactors making fissionable material. Both nations have great reason to want the mullahs’ plans derailed, and with their convenient location, armaments, and money, the Saudis are in a great position to help Israel do what needs to be done.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/saudi_foreign_minister_signals_coexistence_with_israel_pressure_on_palestinians.html#ixzz3BXqOrMeQ
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  28. Don’t know what to think about this either.

    Why the bombing of Tripoli is a game-changer for the fight against the Islamic State
    Bobby Ghosh
    10 hours ago
    Friendly fireReuters/Hani Amara

    If you believe the Obama administration had no idea that the United Arab Emirates and Egypt were about to launch airstrikes in Libya last week, I have a bridge you may want to buy. Egypt’s reliability as a US ally may wax and wane, but the UAE has been a steady partner as well as an avid acquirer of American military hardware. The Emirati air force participated in the 2011 NATO-enforced no-fly zone over Libya that led to the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi.

    It defies credulity that the Emiratis would now go behind Washington’s back to launch an attack against Islamist militants who are threatening to undermine the success of the 2011 operation—especially since these latest bombings serve US interests. Some of the components of the so-called “Dawn of Libya” Islamist coalition, which took control of Tripoli in recent days, are virulently anti-American, and may have been responsible for the 2012 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi.

    It’s doubly hard to imagine that US and NATO satellites and radar stations in the Mediterranean would not have detected the UAE jets approaching Libyan airspace, and noted where they went after the bombing.

    Whatever the reason the White House wants us to think it was shocked—shocked!—that the Emiratis and Egyptians did this, the Obama administration should now move swiftly to capitalize on what could be a game-changer in the war against Islamist terror, and specifically against the Islamic State (IS, also known as ISIS or ISIL).

    Why is it a game-changer? Because it marks the first time two Arab nations have teamed up to launch military operations against Islamists in a third. (The 2011 involvement of Saudi troops in putting down an Arab Spring uprising in Bahrain doesn’t count, because it wasn’t about Islamist terror, and because the Saudis were invited.) Even more important, it was the first time two Sunni Muslim nations struck radical Sunni groups in a third Sunni country.

    That sets the precedent for the same countries—and others, besides—to join the fight against IS, in Iraq and Syria, as well as the campaign against al-Qaeda and its affiliates worldwide. Plenty of Sunni Arab nations have aerial firepower, much of it in the shape of American aircraft: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and Jordan all boast squadrons of F-16s or Apache gunships, or both.

    If the UAE and Egypt can collaborate to can bomb Islamists in Tripoli, then the Sunni nations can do likewise in IS strongholds in Raqqa and Mosul. Of course, they might hesitate, especially before doing anything that helps Syria’s dictator, Bashar al-Assad. But the taboo on intervention has been lifted.

    Political space is beginning to open up for just such a coalition. IS’s barbaric treatment of fellow Muslims has been greeted with alarm and revulsion in Sunni Arab nations. Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mufti declared IS Islam’s greatest enemy. The highest spiritual authority in Egypt has issued a similar denunciation.

    Of course, it is some distance from condemning IS to joining a military coalition against it. There will be objections from Syria. Shia Iran may hate IS, but it will not readily welcome Sunni forces—especially if they are part of a US-led campaign—in countries Tehran regards as its zone of influence. There’s much diplomacy and politics to be done before a coalition can be assembled. But the UAE and Egypt have now provided a precedent and an opportunity. The Obama administration should seize it.

    Now, about that bridge…

    http://qz.com/255750/why-the-bombing-of-tripoli-is-a-game-changer-for-the-fight-against-the-islamic-state/

  29. Nancy Pelosi ✔ @NancyPelosi
    .@SpeakerBoehner’s lawsuit to sue President Obama will cost $500 per hour. RT if you agree this is a complete waste of taxpayer dollars!

    I’m getting a headache! 😡

    • I don’t have a headache, but do have a problem with this lawsuit crap. The Constitution is clear on what is allowed In the event the president violates the law, it is not a stupid lawsuit.

      • There’s just too much wrong with that tweet! She spends how many thousands in taxpayer money every weekend to fly herself home? She shoved how many trillion down our throats with the ACA? There is no end… but she’s worried about $500/hr? Please,lady..take your Prozac.

  30. The vaccine conspiracy theory is blowing up, now it’s just a conspiracy: http://www.naturalnews.com/046614_CDC_whistleblower_vaccine_cover-up_criminal_investigation.html

    Funny how conspiracy theorists like myself und up being right all along, despite being ridiculed. We always get the last 3 words…..Told Ya So! 😀

    • Careful. You can’t claim the highground because nothing is proven on either side. No matter how many links you post, nothing is proven.

      My untrained opinion is that we have dealt with plenty of deadly diseases by vaccinating. I had chicken pox, mumps and measles in my day.My kids have been vaccinated against those diseases and neither kid has had those diseases. Works for me.

      Explain how these kids coming across the border are bringing disease with them. They haven’t been vaccinated, that’s how. I wonder how many who haven’t been vaccinated also have autism, I’d assume the numbers are there. And why is it that so many of us who have been vaccinated don’t have autism? You can’t.

      There is propaganda on both sides, starting right from the top with the fraudulent study done in London. Pharma has their hand in the propaganda too. Myself, if there is a link between the two, I think I’d take autism over polio any day.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        In our day, on shot for one issue. Now, one shot for many issues. In today’s modern vaccine, there are adjuvants that make the vaccines go farther, increasing profits for big pharma .

        The facts that the people hid the truth should tell you all you need to know, they lied for profits.

        Good question on kids with Autisn NOT having been vaccinated. However, vaccines may not be the sole cause, but may trigger a different reason that may or may not have a different trigger. One thing to note, payments have been made from the fund that Big Pharma pays into for victims of issues resulting from vaccines, and many have been paid for autism.

        Nothing has absolutely proven that vaccines cause autism, but lying about test results is a clear indicator that something is wrong. That’s what is important.

        Oh, just because vaccines haven’t made you sick yet, don’t mean they won’t. They have admitted to putting cancer in vaccines in our day

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          It’s been awhile since participating…..couple thoughts

          1) I truly believe from two separate experiences the “combinational” affects of GOOD drugs/vaccines can and will have unanticipated results, many not good. Have to agree wuth GMAN, in our younger days, one disease, one vaccine. Keep It Simple Stupid. We were administered the vaccines over a period of time.
          The experience are my ex-wife was diagnosed with a fatal neurological disease after an accident. The neurologists pronounced their verdict and refused to allow any other 2nd opinions. We, on our own reached out to Mass General where they were doing major research on this disease. The leading researcher asked to review her charts and would followup with visits if he deemed they were needed. He wrote us a good report explaining where their research was taking them and his conclusions on our case were the UVM Medical Center poisoned her with the combination of medications she was being administered. Not an allergic reaction, just plain old poisoning. Almost fatal. The mathematical calculation based on the number of meds they were feeding her and how long they last in the system before changing was 46,656 combinations. He said stop all medications and just take advil or tylanol and he bet his career on the symtoms would disappear in 3 months. They did and that was close to 30 years ago. She’s still kicking whereas they gave her a year.
          Another was while in the Navy, they gave everyone all the vaccines all in one visit to the base hospital. My complete company of 80 men were out of action for close to a week due to adverse reactions. They were suppose to be administered over several months. The corpmen were court martialed. MMR’s can not be in the long run good. KISS.

          2) Can’t trust the headline news as though we here are not suspicious, cynical anyway and distrustful of MSM.
          Yesterday, the news was that Cristobal was heading over land and the photos attached were of an “archived” nature showing a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico heading towards the gulf coast. Open up the story and the write up was correct by stating the hurricane was nearing Bermuda in the mid Atlantic, but if you scan headlines you would have been mislead. Now as for me I rely on other sources and especially follow storms that may impact EC.
          Today, the crash or an F-15 in the Shenandoah Valley. Headline, said military jet from Mass National Guard. Photo attached was an R-22 Raptor, open the article and video, and the alternately showed F-22’s, F-15’s and F16’s.again no vetting or overall acuracy.

          Like old shows, a 707 takes off and a 727 lands, or a Gemini starts taking off and the next footage is of a Saturn Apollo shot.

          • I agree, the MSM is a mess, might that be because is mostly Left Wing? They do have a problem getting facts straight, and many times simply ignore the facts. Speaking of Left Winger talk, check this out for a good laugh: http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/andrew-klavan-how-speak-leftist

            • Dale A Albrecht says:

              Watched a very interesting documentary last night on Lenny Bruce. Not the movie with Dustin Hoffman. The lawyer who represented him, who is still working, made a comment in the film that Lenny was obsessed with justice and that he, the lawyer was interested in the law. Mutually incompatible. The commentary went on as to how instead of the government going after you for speaking out of school, today its the action groups through the advertisers to the media that silences people who may “offend” some group. The lawyer represented IMUS for his words. Granted IMUS is not funny by my standards, but his contract as written had contradictory clauses. Hiring him as a shock jock with freedom of speech, but a clause that negates all of that stating if he offends anyone, ciao.

              To the MMR’s. Just think of how effective tools and machinery are that try and and do to many things. They wind up not doing any of the tasks well if at all without serious issues. MMR’s are a tool and would suffer the same outcome. In the effort to be more efficient and less costly the exact opposite occurs

  31. Not so great news. Those of us up North are not happy: http://politicaloutcast.com/2014/08/farmers-almanac-predicts-severe-winter-warming/

  32. Just A Citizen says:
  33. As much as I love the 2nd Amendment, there are times when I wonder (sigh!). At least this guy now becomes eligible for the Darwin Award.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/27/chilling-footage-shows-the-seconds-before-9-year-old-girl-accidentally-killed-shooting-instructor-with-uzi/#

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I worked with hundreds of kids whe I was a weapons instructor, as cold as this sounds, the instructor failed to ensure the weapon remained in a safe direction. I always held my hand in a position to stop a climbing automatic, especially with kids.

      Maybe the unstructured lacked the experience for the task at hand, regardless, a sad accident.

      • Don’t know a lot about different kinds of guns so don’t want to over-react-but isn’t an Uzi a bit much for a child to handle. I would think that those who run these shooting ranges would have known better than to give this child such a weapon. Maybe they need to re-evaluate their polices before the state re-evaluates them for them-although this one incident may have already caused that new law to be written.

        • I agree! Controlling a full auto weapon is something else. Once fired an old Thompson courtesy of the FBI and it is a heavy weapon. Even though I was 220 at the time, holding that sucker down while firing three round bursts, meant I had to lean into it. Even then, it climbed.

          The only way it would work with a kid I figure is to have your hands over theirs actually controlling the weapon yourself.

          • There is no way a child can control full auto……it takes strength and proper stance. We do not even fire full auto in combat situations EXCEPT for suppressive fire. Even 3 round bursts rarely hit the target with all three rounds and that is with an experienced weapons handler.

  34. D13…changing one of my predictions…..

    Ukraine will fall by March 2015, if not before……and the Balkans will fall by December 2015, if not sooner…..

    If that happens…….Poland will align with Russia.

  35. Good commercial,Hockey but I’ve seen things like it on Veterans and Memorial Day.

  36. This would make great comedy if it wasn’t, you know, like, for real.

    http://twitchy.com/2014/08/28/strategy-what-strategy-behold-the-obama-doctrine-in-one-sentence/

  37. JAC…your boy played great last night….

    Moore played the final three quarters

    completing 17 of 28 passes for 172 yards and leading the Matthew Stafford-less Lions to a 23-0 victory over the Buffalo Bills in the preseason finale for both teams

    Moore led four scoring drives and threw two touchdown passes

    Teams must trim their 75-man rosters to 53 but 4 p.m. Saturday, and Caldwell said his job got more difficult with Thursday’s performance.

    Fingers crossed for him.

    • Spartans open up tonight…

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Anita

      Thanks for the update. I did not see the game. I know he is not the franchise player like some but he sure seems able to play at the NFL level to me. He is one of the most accurate passers around and is great at making good decisions. His arm seems a little stronger now as well.

      The sports commentators on Moore are always the Boise St faithful who or those totally dissing on the kid. I too hope he gets a chance to prove them all wrong.

      Meanwhile, looks like the Vikings are going to make the division more interesting this year.

  38. A State District Court in Texas has ruled that the “Robin Hood” approach ( taking from the rich and giving to the poor ) to school funding is unconstitutional. He also found that the current system levies local property taxes in a way tantamount to a state income tax, which is also constitutionally prohibited.

    This will require that all districts will have to find alternative means of funding through local referendums or local issues. It will also require the State legislature to find alternative funding for its education fund.

    SO…no more robbing Peter to pay Paul. In the ruling, it was found that even with the Robin Hood approach that took billions from more affluent districts and reallocated to the poorer district over a four year period did not improve the education by even 1%. It was a failed system. In reality, the drop out rate increased.

    So…..forcing the rich to pay for the poor did not work…just like it is not working on the Federal level……perhaps Washington needs to take a look?

  39. Just A Citizen says:

    So lets look at the potential fall out of the new “race card” mentality in the USA. Following is a pretty good article from Red State. Now I happen to believe the “policing” issue in the USA is multifaceted, that is not just due to the poor police feeling targeted and disrespected. But this study and the comments from the police officer in Maryland certainly raise good questions.

    http://www.redstate.com/2014/08/29/fear-race-card-destroys-people/

    • JAC……if you look at the FBI stats…..it is quite starling…..the number of black officers shooting white suspects greatly outnumbers the white on black…yet……it is amazing how the msm hijacks this…racism is becoming a moot point…….it is like water off a duck’s back now and when there is true racism…..it will be looked at as just another complaint…..nothing more.

    • Where will all of this finally lead? IMHO, the direction is a race war. A bloody one that will bring forth the Police State and all it’s brutality. We saw some of it recently, we see bad cops in action all the time in videos, we know that most police departments are now militarized, we know that the Feds have basically armed every alphabet organization with sub machineguns, pistols and have a billion rounds of ammo to ensure they don’t run out for the next 100 years.

      Time will tell, but just in case, keep yer powder dry 🙂

    • Just A Citizen says:

      A little follow up on the topic. Initially this looks like validation of the “perception” being spread wide and far about the POLICE STATE. Upon closer look all may not be what it seems. And this may well have been a deliberate effort to punk the cops.

      On the other hand it does raise some good questions about what the role of Police SHOULD BE and how we thing they SHOULD BEHAVE in similar situations. That is assuming that the this fellow was refusing to leave an area on private land. Or lets even assume it was public but someone was concerned about his loitering.

      Are the cops to just ignore him? Is it not appropriate for them to ask who he is and what he is doing there? But what if he refuses to cooperate? Should that really be “breaking the law”. Something most of the KOS commentators obviously don’t understand by the way.

      One special thing to note. The lady police officer tries to explain why they are questioning him, but he cuts her off and immediately goes into the “because I am Black” mode. Oh and just coincidentally his phone is recording.

      Now even if the police are justified in their initial contact, perhaps we need a NEW APPROACH to confronting citizens who express their desire to not answer questions. Is arrest really needed? Maybe they could have just joined him on the bench to wait for his kids and then escort them all to the safety of his car.

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/28/1325409/-St-Paul-police-violently-arrest-a-black-man-for-sitting-on-bench-waiting-for-his-children-VIDEO

  40. Stolen from a stolen comment……

    “The mentality of this country actually reminds me of something that I read in the Yahoo comment section –

    The definition of the word Conundrum is: something that is puzzling or confusing. Here are six Conundrums of socialism in the United States of America

    1. America is capitalist and greedy – yet half of the population is subsidized.
    2. Half of the population is subsidized – yet they think they are victims.
    3. They think they are victims – yet their representatives run the government.
    4. Their representatives run the government – yet the poor keep getting poorer.
    5. The poor keep getting poorer – yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.
    6. They have things that people in other countries only dream about – yet they want America to be more like those other countries.

    These three, short sentences tell you a lot about the direction of our current government and cultural environment:

    1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.

    2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. How come we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money? What’s interesting is the first group “worked for” their money, but the second didn’t.”

    3. Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WWII, but we are not stopping the payments or benefits to illegal aliens or countries that clearly hate us.

    Am I the only one missing something?

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