A slang basketball term for “in you’re face”!

Here is the relevant portion of the interview transcript, as published by the Post.

Q: You know where this is going, though. Even in the period that you’ve been on vacation in the last couple of weeks, in Iraq, in Syria, of course, in Africa, al-Qaeda is resurgent.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, but, David, I think the analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant. I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.

Q: But that JV team jus[t] took over Fallujah.

THE PRESIDENT: I understand. But when you say took over Fallujah –

Q: And I don’t know for how long.

THE PRESIDENT: But let’s just keep in mind, Fallujah is a profoundly conservative Sunni city in a country that, independent of anything we do, is deeply divided along sectarian lines. And how we think about terrorism has to be defined and specific enough that it doesn’t lead us to think that any horrible actions that take place around the world that are motivated in part by an extremist Islamic ideology is a direct threat to us or something that we have to wade into.

The transcript shows that the president was asked about al Qaeda-affiliated groups in Iraq, Syria and Africa, which would include ISIS, when the president made his remark about the “JV team.”


Recent coverage of the Paris terrorist attack leaves me wondering if anyone in the media ever listens to their own words.

“The attack was very well planed”.

“Originally, they went to the wrong address”.

“The attack was very well executed”.

“The first lead was one of the attackers left his license in the getaway car”.

One  discussion stared with one of them being a “pot-smoking, pizza delivery guy ten years ago.  OK, he changed his career path and fought & trained to be a terrorist.

Another noted the similarities between the Boston & Paris attacks.  Two cities, two brothers.

What brilliant insight!  Can  you link it to them having penises?  One issue I will buy into is the economic environment you males face.  Self destructive behavior is rarely rewarded.  School drop-outs face a hard battle to prosper.   Pot smoking bums usually get what the earn.  Since they don’t work, they earn very little.  Not surprising some blame the world for not rewarding them.  The stand-out in most reporting is they were Islamic.  The media continues to insist these were not Muslims.  Sorry, but it does not matter what you or President Obama label them.  They describe themselves as Muslim.  That is the only relevant, common factor.

Junior Varsity is however, a proper comparison with the standard of reporting we are getting…


  1. President sure uses a lot of energy trying to dismiss the danger -while a lot of people are dying.

  2. Just A Citizen says:

    Ever since I started this “blogging” thing I have been attacked verbally for trying to explain that the Soc. Sec. trust funds and Medicare are NOT FUNDED in perpetuity.

    BS cry the left, it is all just a scare tactic of the right. If the Fed pays back the loans everything will be OK.

    Well I just got my Soc. Sec. benefits statement. Following is a paragraph I have not noticed before. Might have been there but just didn’t notice it. Or it is in fact new. Here it is:

    “Your estimated benefits are based on current law. Congress has made changes to the law in the past and can do so at any time. The law governing benefit amounts may change because, by 2033, the payroll taxes collected will be enough to pay only about 77 percent of scheduled benefits.”

    Last time I checked the SS trustees ASSUME that the various Treasury investments will be paid on time. So this means that the combined of existing deposits plus payroll tax will not cover SS after 2033. Of course if the deficit is 23% in 2033, then it must exist in a smaller amount before that time. Hard to believe it would go from balanced to -23% in one year.

    • Ever since I started this “blogging” thing I have been attacked verbally . Quite true, so used to it I’m not even bothered by it, I just give it back 10X.

      I’m not expecting SS to exist in 2033. I’m not expecting this country to exist as it does today either

    • So let me see here. 33-15 =18 years…52 + 18 = 70, thats me. So if I get to draw at 67 I’ll only get 2-3 yrs SS. I’m doomed. The money I’m supposed to be saving for retirement roadtrips is gonna have to be the money I have to live on. I can’t have shit!

  3. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Let’s see when I was in school…the “B” team was generally small players that if they played on the Varsity teams they’d get hurt…absolutely nothing to do with skill. They just played with teams of comparible size. JV were people who generally were bigger, not as well trained and maybe a big awkward…needed refined skills and physical training to attain the Varsity. Usually attained said training and skills within a year. Varsity…that’s the big boys. Some started out on top, other worked their way up to the big league….all compared to to a terrorist in training or full grown organization and all are dangerous and should never be trivialized. Trial starting of the surviving Boston Bomber…how successful were they on creating terror with very little actual damage? Quite successful, and they passed completely under the radar.

  4. Dale A Albrecht says:

    It sure will hack off Belichek (sp) and Brady if they lose to the Ravens in Foxborough again.

  5. Just A Citizen says:

    Well, I am O for 2 so far.


    Come on………grow a pair. All your predictions have caveats and possibilities.

    Cowboys by 13.
    Seahawks by 2. Was headed that way but then the Chancellor stepped in the way.

    Denver BLOWS OUT Indy.

    New England BLOWS OUT Baltimore. Brady moved the ball as I expected, but I thought the Pats defense was better than what I saw today. Of course it was Flacco.

    Blow Out > 14 points and game is not close enough to watch the 4th quarter.

    • Not at all, you did get the winners right. I’m 1-1 as I picked the Ravens. The Seahawks will be a tough out at home. Today’s games should both be great. I’ll stick to early predictions, Packers in a close one, and Bronco’s in another close one. All 4 teams can score points so it should be fun. 🙂

  6. Yep. All the world’s leaders are ganged up in France in solidarity. Except Obama. But I did say the world’s leaders. O_o

    • ROFLMAO 😀

      • They say he sent Holder to rep the USA. I see the leaders stacked three deep…don’t see Holder anywhere. He’s prob having tea with the terrorists!

        • Perhaps Holder will stay there?????? I know…no such luck…..I can dream.

        • Holder is too busy to stand with other leaders against extremist Islam-he is going to some meeting though to discuss the problem. Is anyone surprised?

          Jan 11, 2015, 04:04 PM GMT 3h
          Justice Department official says Attorney General Eric Holder’s schedule would not allow him to attend Paris unity march – @NBCNews


          • How does he have a “schedule” on an event like this? Got to keep that “Islamaphobia” BS flying I guess. 🙄

            • He just doesn’t want to be there-at least that is my opinion.

              • He’s bummed. Obama gets to do fundraisers and he has to go to Paris to support victims of islamic terrorism. Where do you think he would rather be?

              • I think he’d rather stand against Freedom of speech.

              • You have to remember G that Obama sent no representatives to the funeral of James Foley who was beheaded by ISIS but he sent three-three representatives to Micheal Browns funeral.

          • “Obama himself had said in Washington on Friday, after French commandos killed the three Islamists and freed the hostages they had been holding: “I want the people of France to know that the United States stands with you today, stands with you tomorrow.”” Yes, that’s Obama-lots and lots of words-but when he can visibly stand with them to send a message-Nada-So just what message is he really sending?

            As world leaders march in Paris, US represented by ambassador
            49 minutes ago

            French President Francois Hollande (C) observes a minute of silence while surrounded by heads of state at the solidarity march (Marche Republicaine) in the streets of Paris on January 11, 2015


            Paris (AFP) – Sunday’s massive march in Paris against terrorism drew dozens of world leaders in a show of unity — except from the United States, which was represented by its ambassador.
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            US to host summit on Feb 18 to fight ‘violent extremism’ AFP
            More than a million rally in historic Paris march of defiance AFP
            More than 700,000 rally in France after Islamist attacks AFP
            After attacks, arm-in-arm world leaders join mass Paris march Reuters

            US Attorney General Eric Holder, who was in Paris Sunday to attend a meeting of interior and justice ministers discussing measures to combat jihadist attacks, was meant to have participated in the rally according to the White House on Saturday, but did not do so, the US embassy in Paris confirmed.

            The embassy did not say why Holder did not attend the march. It said the United States was represented in the huge rally by its ambassador to France, Jane Hartley.

            Holder, who was protected while in France by a detail of FBI officers, said after the ministers’ meeting that US President Barack Obama wanted to hold a summit of allied leaders in Washington on February 18 to “discuss ways in which we can counteract this violent extremism that exists around the world”.

            He also expressed sympathy with France for the three days of carnage it suffered at the hands of three Islamist gunmen, saying: “On this day, we are all French citizens. I am a citizen of France, and we stand in solidarity with the French people.”

            Other interior and justice ministers at the meeting, from 11 EU countries, went on to attend the Paris march.

            Some observers questioned why the US presence was outranked by so many other countries in the demonstration, which also championed the principle of freedom of expression after Wednesday’s massacre in Paris at the offices of the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo.

            A CNN presenter, Jake Tapper, noted that Jordan, a close Muslim ally of the US, was represented by its king.

            “I don’t mean this as a criticism of the Obama administration, but as an American, I do wish that we were better represented in this beautiful procession of world leaders,” Tapper was quoted as saying.

            Obama himself had said in Washington on Friday, after French commandos killed the three Islamists and freed the hostages they had been holding: “I want the people of France to know that the United States stands with you today, stands with you tomorrow.”


    • Empty chair, lead from behind, a lot of good descriptions.

      But the real reason is he’s always denied Islam is part of any of the attacks so he could hardly go and publicly walk against the idea of radical Islam. Just not in his DNA to do that. Or Jarrett’s.

      Interesting to see they are taking a fair amount of heat today and O’s tool Ernest has now admitted maybe they should have sent a higher level person. Closest thing to admitting a mistake you’ll ever see.

  7. Did you see the news that was taking pictures at De Gaulle airport? What a mad house….every flight full and even fights breaking out for seats.

    @ Buck…..if you want to go to Paris…now is a great time..plenty of seats and hotel space….tourists are leaving in droves, according to CNN.

  8. Also, CNN was interviewing a couple of Paris residents who are also afraid o walk around Paris….they said even the Bistros are not secure.

    The Paris residents, being interviewed, were saying that the socialist program is not working. Unemployment among 18-30 years is over 20%. They also do not understand why the police are not armed.

    Further more, it is reported, that the enclaves that are Muslim and the police will not go there….are under Sharia Law but, they continued, France is paying these people and they have passports and travel freely to Syria, Iran,…..etc.

    This show of solidarity is a show……the people being interviewed said this is exactly what the terrorists want…..everyone knows that the policies will not change….it is grand standing.

    Not my words……..

  9. Is it my imagination but are more and more games being decided by booth reviews?

    • Not so sure. Getting the call right vs wrong can go both ways into deciding games. Getting the call right takes the wrong out of the picture. How referee teams call games does have an impact more than instant reply, IMHO.

    • Just A Citizen says:


      Your not wrong, because more calls are being reviewed.

      Rule be damn, the Cowboys got robbed. Didn’t make a football move? He reached for the goal line for crying our loud.

      Holding, PI, pushing off, etc, etc. Every play, but some get called and some don’t.

      More Defensive Backs called for HOLDING in these playoffs than I ever remember. Meanwhile they let them grab each other and let the receiver push off for separation.

      Maybe it is time to eliminate many of these stupid rules that take two paragraphs to explain. Also love it when the network “expert of Officials” makes a call on a replay but the actual replay guys go the other way.

      Oh that reminds me, Denver got robbed on the punt fumbled and ruled down by contact.

  10. Rodgers “New York Bozo” referring to deBlasio I’m guessing 😀

    • IDK – a whole host of candidates. Christi was in Jerry’s booth again, perhaps he said NY in stead of NJ? LOL! He claims there was no hidden meaning behind it.

  11. What I found interesting about this article was it pointing out that criticism of Islam alone is considered a matter of RACISM. Any other religion is just a matter of free speech. I guess somehow Muslims have acquired minority status.

    Stop Pretending Terrorism Has Nothing To Do With Islam
    And while you’re at it, stop treating criticism of religion as racism
    David Harsanyi
    By David Harsanyi
    January 9, 2015

    Guess what? An idea isn’t a human being. Neither is a sacred cow. And those who confront, dismiss, debunk, sneer at and fear them aren’t necessarily bigots.

    Not long ago, Saudi blogger Raif Badawi was sentenced to 10 years in jail and 1,000 lashes for blasphemy. His first 50 lashes will be publicly administered this week. Taking them all at once would kill the guy. But, then again, Badawi might be fortunate to be alive at all. The theocratic monarchs of Saudi Arabia don’t need the terrorists to punish their satirists, they can get the job done in-house.

    I don’t know about you, but I’m lash-phobic. I tend, as a matter of principle, to have a low opinion of people who dispense lashes. Religion, of course, is merely incidental to Badawi’s fate–as it is in the massacre of journalists in Paris or the bloodbath in Nigeria, where Boko Haram may have killed 2000 people this week. Or so I’m told. All of these instances of violence are perpetrated by random people, who by some happenstance share the same religious affiliation.

    And to bring this up–according to Vox and other some outlets–may be Islamophobic. Islamophobia is defined, at least by Wikipedia (and it’s fair to say it’s a pretty decent reflection of how we use the word), as a term for prejudice against, hatred towards, or fear of the religion of Islam, Muslims, or of ethnic groups perceived to be Muslim.

    Only half of this definition should be true. Most often, only half of it is. The late Christopher Hitchens never actually said “Islamophobic is a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons,” but he did call it a “stupid neologism” that “aims to promote criticism of Islam to the gallery of special offenses associated with racism.”

    Detesting ideas and hating people are not the same thing. Muslims are, and should be, protected equally under the liberal principles everyone else enjoys. Yet, for some reason, when it comes to our discourse, Islam is given a special dispensation from the standards that apply to everyone else who operates under these rules. A criticism of a faith – and the customs and philosophy that go with it – has been transformed into an act of racism.

    I’ll never understand why so many on Left feel compelled to provide the most pervasively illiberal ideology on Earth this kind of cover. Nor, for that matter, why so many of my fellow atheists reserve their venom for Christianity (a religion that made secularism possible) while coddling an ideology that would surely destroy it.

    And not all atheists, of course. After that March episode of Bill Maher’s HBO show, the one where Ben Affleck called criticism of religion “racist” – because, why not? – the noted atheist Sam Harris predicted the post-Charlie Hebdo environment perfectly.

    HARRIS: Yes, well, we have a kind of dogma of political correctness here which is stifling conversation. Many liberals want to grade Islam on a curve. You know, that just — they’re not expecting the same kind of civility and openness to free speech and other liberties that we hold dear, and are right to hold dear, from Muslims throughout the world.

    And so when cartoonists draw the wrong cartoon, and embassies start burning, we criticize the cartoonist, and we criticize the newspapers that printed the cartoons, and we practice self-censorship. We have — there was an academic book at Yale University Press on the cartoon controversy that wouldn’t publish the cartoons. This is just madness.

    You might imagine that once the media itself was attacked, the madness would end. But you would have been wrong. These moments are instructive in separating genuine liberals – Hitchens, Ayaan Hirsi Ali (the Somali-Dutch opponent of radicalism), or Maher, etc. – from the authoritarian leftists who try and stifle speech, the ones that chill speech by purposefully confusing bigotry and discourse, and perhaps the worst kind, those who try to pretend there is moral equivalency between our world and Team Civilization. (And boy, some of them fail hard.)

    To prove that all faiths share the same propensity for violence, apologists must cast a net over the entire breadth of human history. My guess is that any reasonable person would concede that few groups in history are innocent. (I’m sure not all the Amalekites had it coming – and for this I apologize.) But the thing is, if you have to reach back to 1572 to make a connection between Catholic hostility and modern Islam, you’ve already lost the argument. In this world, today, right now, when it comes to religious violence there’s really only one game in town.

    Everyone has their extremists, it’s true. The twit who leaves a homemade gas-canister bomb near an NAACP office, though, is not being funded with billions, applauded by millions and participating in worldwide struggle to terrorize civilians and destabilize his own already brittle society. There is no comparison to make.

    And trying to divorce violence from Islam is the most intellectually dishonest and historically illiterate argument going right now. To do this, we need Howard Dean and Ezra Klein to bore into the consciousness of terrorists and discern their true beliefs and intentions.

    Klein argues that Charlie Hebdo massacre was nothing more than ”unprovoked mass slaughter” that had nothing to do with blasphemy or Islam. Why do blasphemy laws exist in most Islamic nations, you ask? Just for show, apparently. Why are mentally ill men gunned down in the streets for breaking those blasphemy laws? For kicks. Why do Christians live in fear throughout the Middle East? Dunno. This is an absurdly naïve understanding of the power of Islamic faith.

    Islamic scholar Dean took a slightly different route, arguing that if it’s violent it’s not Islam anyway: “I stopped calling these people Muslim terrorists. They’re about as Muslim as I am. I mean, they have no respect for anybody else’s life, that’s not what the Koran says. And, you know Europe has an enormous radical problem. … I think ISIS is a cult. Not an Islamic cult. I think it’s a cult.”

    Alas, as convenient as this argument is, I’m not sure this is Dean’s call. While “Allahu Akbar” is being screamed before the murder sprees, I’m going to go Occam’s razor on this. Because though there might not be any braver people in the world than Muslims who stand up to radical Islamists, factional infighting is a hallmark of religious violence. It’s the sort of thing Christianity has (mostly) gotten past. And the reason the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim, is that other types of people have been situated beyond its reach.

    What is less obvious to me is why liberals aren’t more inclined to defend the right of people to be critical of all religions. Why aren’t they more interested in why Islamic ideas so often manifest in violence? Why do the practitioners of these ideas find themselves in clashes with every culture they touch (Jews, Hindus, Christians, and all others)? Seems like a tolerant liberal would be phobic about the stoning of gays or the institutionalized dehumanization of women that’s rampant in “moderate” Muslim nations – forget radical Islam. Instead, they expect people to cower from one of the “stupidest neologisms” to be concocted in years.


    • I have heard an IMAM clearly state that Islam means submission. What else do they need to say to get people to wake up?

      • Ran across a quote by a Saudi Cleric named Muhammad Al-Munajid today talking about Freedom of Speech:

        “The problem is that they want to open a debate on whether Islam is true or not, and on whether Judaism and Christianity are false or not. In other words, they want to open up everything for debate. Now they want to open up all issues for debate. That’s it. It begins with freedom of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with freedom of belief. So where’s the conspiracy? They say: Let’s have freedom of thought in Islam. Well, what do they want? They say: I think, therefore I want to express my thoughts. I want to express myself, I want to talk and say, for example, that there are loopholes in Islam, or that Christianity is the truth. Then they will talk about freedom of belief, and say that anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he wants… If you want to become an apostate – go ahead. Fancy Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem. That’s what freedom of belief is all about. They want freedom of everything. What they want is very dangerous.”

        • It is becoming very hard to believe that islam is a peaceful religion, despite my experiences. What Saudi Arabia has been doing as of late, if true, makes it almost impossible. I do not look at this a s a religious issue anymore, as what they want is a Theocracy. (I think I have this right, LOL). I’m really not all that concerned because of where I live. I do have concern for others though who are targets of those who choose to use violence to spread their beliefs.

          It’s becoming clearer, but not in totality just yet , at least for me.

          • I don’t think it will ever be clear for most of us-We tend to judge people individually-but there is no doubt that there is a large wing of Islam that is not compatible with freedom. When I look at Christianity-I see disagreement in many things but I also see agreement on many issues by the vast majority. So I wonder when it comes to Islam what are those issues that the vast majority of Muslims agree with. I wonder how many Muslims would disagree with these extremist taking the law into their hands and killing all these people in Paris but would agree with the State taking those same people to court and having them put to death.

            I also wonder who these people are that the above cleric is concerned about following their own beliefs-is he talking about Muslims who don’t want to live under a theocracy where they aren’t allowed to believe as they actually believe.

  12. Wow, the man actually believes that the only way they can be fair to minorities is to be unfair to others. This is the liberals idea of FAIR. Maybe you should stop worrying so much about ones skin color and which group can earn the liberals selective title of an oppressed minority and just look at helping the poor, whoever they may happen to be.


    • I have always been a fan. Disagree with some of his positions but know where he is coming from. As far as I am concerned has always, ever since Vietnam, been a man of honor. Not to mention, “Fields of Fire” was one hell of a good Vietnam novel.

      • I know very little about Webb-he sounds like he at least has an idea of how unbalanced, unfair and based only on getting minority votes- the liberal parties idea of fair is-it’s the author of this piece and all who think like him that I have a problem with.

  13. Just A Citizen says:


    Well, have to give it to Rogers and the Pack. They finally showed up in the second half.

    So I am guessing Kathy you are in a dancing mood over this, especially given my blasphemy of picking “the boys”. Here is a little somthin for you to wear while stomping on the bar tops.


    • 🙂
      Good Job Green Bay

      • Tch Tch…good job Green Bay…………………..and the New York officials.

        • Colonel, don’t know if you caught it or not, but Rodgers changed a play at the line, yelling “New York Bozo several times” I couldn’t help to think that the language was aimed at deBlasio. Is it possible that Rodgers got his say on what the Rams players did weeks back?

          • On the call. I’ve seen that same type of call many times , usually out of bounds, and it is consistent with similar situations. I didn’t like the call either (nor the one’s in the past). But the call was correct, based on the rule in place.

            • I would agree with you normally and this is not bad apples…Dallas lost……BUT…..and obviously down here in Cowboy country, the replay is all over the tv in the slowest of slow motion…….it was evident that he controlled the ball…it was evident that he was reaching for the goal line…..it was evident that his hand was on the ground with the ball in it (the ball did not hit the ground at all)…it popped up and he controlled it in the end zone to complete the catch…… It was not out of bounds and you see long passes bobbled all the time and then controlled.

              BUT..it was over ruled…..look at it this way…..I have no excuse to watch football now….I could care less who wins or loses and that includes the game tonight.

  14. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Polls over the years in Europe have shown that the majority of the “people” have been against the increase of “immigration” to their countries especially by Muslims. Reasoning they do not integrate, stay separate, stay unemployable and so on…..The Governments are going their own way especially the unelected EU politicians. Totally unscientific, but the last several long term visits to Europe I have done over the 2 decades, the people were extremely upset about about the immigrant issue especally from the M/E and Africa.
    Just the other year in one of the most popular resort areas in Sicily several girls were ARRESTED and fined thousands of euros for OFFENDING some visiting muslim beach goers from the emirates for wearing bathing suits instead of burkas. Talk about just plain stupid police and judges. The judge said for them to take modest clothes to the beach in the future. Especially the EU laws on offending anyone.

  15. Dale A Albrecht says:

    The clash of diametrically opposing cultures will result in the death of one or the other. To me, the wars for empire within europe don’t count. They really are the same just fighting cousins. Spain and Portugal coming to the Americas was a clash of cultures. France and England to north america…same thing. However, the current immigration of peoples from Central or Latin America to here is no longer a clash of opposing cultures and merit legal inclusion. Islamic immigration to here will in time seriously clash.

    Even in 2001 the dutch were extremely upset as a people with the huge population of Muslims in Rotterdam and Amsterdam mostly illegals and totally refusing to integrate. They ewere a cancer. But still the government refused to listen and would continually go after those that opposed their policies….any time a politician really starts on that anti-diversity gig, the government finds a way to shut them up, usually for filing criminal charges of offensive speech or hate speech.

    • It is really very simple, there are those who believe in the goodness of all people and the fallacy that “people are the same all over”. Despite six thousand years of recorded human history, they feel that “now”, this moment in history, this instant is somehow different. We have “progressed” we have gone beyond that. When their dreamworld collapses, they conveniently ignore the fact and continue on the same path. They have attained “enlightenment”.

      Hence, my constant comparison to 1st World War French Generals, It was not the machine gun that stopped the attack, it was the lack of sufficient elan on the part of the troops. Same with “progressive thought”. Things only failed because we did not take them far enough.

      You are old enough to remember what a “moderate” was in the Democratic Party circa 1970. Democrats today consider the big O a moderate.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        The French general reference well portrayed in “Paths of Glory”.

        A very relevant piece of art was done in 1826 called “The Peaceable Kingdom” by Edward Hicks. Great ideal but wholely impossible.

        JFK would be a considered a right wing conservative today, if he never changed his spots.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Wonder at times what they would have called McGovern!!

        Radicals, of both stripes, confuse the timing of action with the action itself. For them you are a traitor if you are not willing to do everything NOW. Yet every time that is tried it fails. The Progressive Fascists and the “Socialists” have gotten their way because they were willing to play a LONG game. Some thought they were close enough to the finish they could shove the last bit down our throat without opposition. This being the “Obamas” of the left.

        They guessed wrong. It will take another decade or so, but unless the opposition starts playing the same game, the left will prevail. To some extent they already have.

        • I had great success in turning the tables and NOT playing their game. I don’t let them change to subject of debate when they are losing and when they progress to the name calling stage, I have found ways to blow that up too. Attack their lies at the core, destroy them in debate then embarrass them when they revert to name calling. Opinions?

  16. just heard a couple sound bites…need to type quick before sometimers beats me….

    Brigite Gabriel on Hannity’s town hall

    something something in Arabic….First we have Saturday, then we have Sunday
    ……………………………………………..First we come for the Jews, then we come for the Christians.

    Need to label the enemy…. Islamic terrorism…..it’s not Buddhist terrorism, Catholic terrorism, or Jewish terrorism.

    So give me a break on the Islamaphobia label.

  17. QUESTION: Why is Holder thinking about charging General Patreus with a felony for disclosure of classified information to a female Lt.Colonel that had a top secret clearance…..

    But Bergdahl gets a pat on the back for disclosure of classified information to the public, TV, and newspapers that did not even have a clearance?

    • Because Holder is a racist idiot? He is also anti-military, just like Obama. Is it not a point of contention that Bergdahl also provided aid to the enemy costing the lives of American soldiers?

      • My guess is something behind the scenes is happening and Petreus was going to talk. Perhaps Gowdy’s panel on Benghazi? The charge threat is a very public warning to keep quiet.

    • Have you lost it? You want a rational reason after six years of irrationality?

    • My question is HOW would he get away with charging him if she has top secret clearance?

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        In my opinion Petreus crossed Obama by pushing him into an action he clearly did not want to do, ramp up Afghanistan like the surge in Iraq which this administration pissed away. Pushed POTUS into a put up or shut up position and therefore had to be destroyed. Regardless of the outcome Petreus is effectively neutralized and tainted.

  18. Obama’s 6 years so far is like amateur hour in politics. It should have been a reality show.

  19. France putting 10K troops on the streets. Did they not learn anything?

  20. @Peter B If you read this, where do you get you polar ice information?

  21. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Exerpt from “Eurabia has a Capital: Rotterdam

    Chris Ripke is a well-known artist in the city. His studio is near a mosque in Insuindestraat. Shocked in 2004 by the murder of director Theo Van Gogh by an Dutch Islamist, Chris decided to paint an angel on wall of his studio and the biblical commandment “Gij zult niet doden,” thou shalt not kill. His neighbors at the mosque found the words “offensive,” and called the mayor of Rotterdam at the time, the liberal Ivo Opstelten. The mayor ordered the police to erase the painting, because it was “racist.” Wim Nottroth, a television journalist, camped out on the spot in protest. The police arrested him, and his film was destroyed. Ephimenco did the same in his own window: “I put up a big white sheet with the biblical commandment. Photographers came, and the radio. If you can no longer write ‘do not kill’ in this country, then you are saying that we are all in prison. It is like apartheid, whites living with whites and blacks with blacks. There is a great chill. Islamism wants to change the structure of the country.” For Ephimenco, part of the problem is the de-Christianization of society. “When I arrived here, during the 1960’s, religion was dying, a unique event in Europe, a collective de-Christianization. Then the Muslims brought religion back to the center of social life. Aided by the anti-Christian elite.”

  22. When the subject of Facebook came up, The company should be allowed to curtail free speech as it is there right to do so, regardless of how anyone feels, to include discriminated against. Yet we continue to have this issue crop up where a company can’t act as they choose. Any comments: http://freedomforce.com/900/christian-set-lose-everything-refusing-provide-flowers-sodomite-union/

    • Count all the lost freedoms involved here-there are many-sounds like the beginnings of a secular theocracy.

  23. http://freedomforce.com/895/atheist-veteran-memorial-removed-city-park/

    I have a simple and cheap solution to this problem.

  24. http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/american-soldiers-watch-your-back-us-central-command-twitter-youtube-pages-hacked

    Whole lot of threats being made. If they can back them up is another thing. If they can, things are gonna get real interesting real fast. Keep your guns loaded and close.

  25. I wonder what those on the Left think about this. Buck? Matt? Beuhler? http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/next-charlie-hebdo-issue-will-feature-mohammed-cartoons

  26. I guess I should stop blaming Obama for all the stupid decisions made by his administration-obviously he doesn’t actually make the decisions, or know what’s going on until he reads the paper and his people well they don’t tell him nothin. Per Earnest-It wasn’t Obama’s decision not to go to Paris. Course in another article Earnest stated that he didn’t know if Obama was even invited to the march.


  27. 750 no go zones across just France…..non- Muslims not allowed. No police, no fire protection, no ambulance service…..just sharia controlled enclaves. Wonder what France will do now?

    • Colonel – please stop listening to Fox News…


      • ROFLMAO! 🙂 You say stop watching FOX then link a site run and funded by Left Wingers. BWAHAHA 😀 You kill me!

        • So you agree with the Colonels belief of these 750 no go zones throughout France??

          • This time of year, I get a lot of time to read as it’s freaking cold outside and I’m pissed because all that global warming we were promised took a hiatis 18 years ago 😀 Europe is having a problem that we don’t have here, yet. In England, they have around 70 Sharia courts that deal with their law. In a recent Sharia court ruling, the IMAM ruled that a woman who didn’t want to get married lost as the IMAM decided that under Sharia, she was 14 and was old enough to get married. Screw what SHE wanted. What is going on in France isn’t all that unknown, as the earliest mention of them popping was in 2006.

            I was asked a question about the subject that basically asked to name one “sub division” that was a “no go zone”. The person didn’t understand or ever spend anytime looking in to the subject. These are simply small neighborhoods, maybe a couple blocks or slightly more. I’ve read many articles on the subject, but as is the usual case, linking on like one from the UK is always called “right wing”. I really didn’t know if it was “right wing” or not, because I did a google search and it was from over there so I read it, sounded OK and linked it. You have just experienced what I get no matter what link I post.

            Do I believe the good Colonel, YES, because I have read about this subject a few times. The problem is that these things aren’t written about too much because most media is controlled by those who think lefty (more than you do) and won’t write about it. Even the dog that speaks for the Whitehouse won’t say the word MUSLIM Extremist, as I think his shock collar may go off. Obama will not say what the problem is, he is having an “extremist” chit chat. I guess he is going to invite all his past friends for a couple beers 🙂

            This is a big f-ing problem that is only beginning. I can’t understand the blindness of so many on your side of the spectrum, and I have looked on left wing sites, not a peep. Even if this is just 1% of Muslim’s , that’s a huge number. Not you, but sometimes I think the Left have their head in the sand. It’s like they see Muslim extremism like they would see Michael Jackson as an unconventional babysitter.

            To quote OBAMA: “The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam” There is no question why the US wasn’t properly represented in France. It’s really time for people to wake up my friend. Yes, I got D13’s back on this one.

            • I honestly don’t even know where to begin on this…

              Let’s see.. Sharia courts in England…sure they exist (as do Jewish courts in England) but they are not legally binding unless both parties agree to be bound by its ruling (as is the case with any arbitration panel).

              No go zones…did you read the article I linked to?

              • My apologies, but no, I didn’t go to the link. I have zero faith in Snopes. You might as well just linked MediaMatters, to me it’s the same. I have read numerous articles on the subject, a majority from overseas media. I have listened to a few interviews that support the issue. I have no reason to NOT believe what is going on. Nothing personal towards you Buck, but far too many on your side of the spectrum have proved to be quite dishonest. Granted, all politicians are such, but the media have been equally dishonest. Sometimes I think it’s best to ignore all of them and convert to Amish (ROFLMAO). To be honest, I do my best to learn about these things that come up. I have read stuff that supports D13 and I have read that they don’t exist. So let’s see, one side said ‘If you like your healthcare…..etc, and one didn’t. Unless I go to France, I got to pick a side, which would you pick under the circumstances?

              • Question for you. Does it really matter if they exist or not?

              • I will side with the facts, thank you very much!

                I have yet to find a single credible source for this outrageous claim of 750 no go zones. Care to share one?

              • Does it matter if they exist or not? YES.

              • Credible? That is gonna be tough as I have explained. But I did a quick search: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/7/french-islamist-mini-states-grow-into-problem-out-/?page=all

              • Did you even read the links you posted?

                The Washington Times article merely links to the Gatestone Institute (and a quote from someone with a site called ‘Jihad Watch’. Then, the link to the Gatestone Institute does nothing to support the claim being made…

              • Few years back there were huge riots in the Paris suburbs with the place out of control for months. Burning, looting, looting, burning with a bit of shooting. Mostly North African immigrants, no jobs, no future with a religion planted firmly in the dark ages.

        • Oh, and what’s that quote? Facts have a left wing bias…


          • I actually heard something in an interview that I caught with a “moderate muslim” (a female one at that). I’m not Muslim so if what she says is true or false is not something I can determine. It will become a link soon, I’m sure. Basically, the subject was why don’t moderate Muslim’s speak out against radical Muslim’s. She state because in the Quran, all the nice stuff in the beginning is trumped by all the bad stuff in the back end. She stated that even in debate, moderates will always lose because of this. I had never heard anything like this before.

            Then that IMAM Choudrey has been quite vocal about Sharia as well, that I think I can find, would you like to see him speak?

            • Why is ‘moderate Muslim’ in quotes?

              • Because it seems that there are moderate Muslim’s and fanatical Muslim’s and many different sects with both. Maybe moderate would mean the majority who are not fanatics, which makes perfect sense, but I’m not used to talking to you, I’m used to talking to Liberal’s who really make Liberal’s look stupid. That is my mistake. I often engage in more than one conversation at a time. I did read the links, a few days ago actually. The evidence points to the existence. That Choudrey guy is a trip (I would call him a fanatic). I’m glad, and hoping it stays this way, that the fanatics stay far away from you and I. I’m not concerned, yet. I’m more concerned with not tripping over my dogs more than that, LOL 🙂

          • This is from 2012, and Russian (got to read is like a movie, LOL)

      • Hiya Buck….it was not Fox…they are as far right as CNN and the others are left…..I was watching an interview on TV of the Paris….ummm…..it was not the police but some one connected with the French intelligence branch….he showed a map outlined in red of the areas that the police do not go into in Paris…..he said that even emergency operations do not go and they showed the pics of the areas….run down….blighted.

        After the interview, I read Fox, CNN, MSNBC ………and there was no difference…all were reporting something similar although the numbers did change slightly…..in addition each of them were also reporting on the issue of multi culturalism and the pitfalls of it because no one is assimilating.

        Then, there was replay of the interview with Merkel of Germany outlining what they are doing like picking up passports, denying entry without sponsors and a couple of other items along those lines. They are specifically profiling the Muslim population. Merkel is on record as saying she thinks the European effort at multi culturalism is actually a failed program. It was not working in schools at all.

        Also, sir, I know who owns snopes and wiki……..I do not believe them at all. I will admit that it is very tough to ferret out good news and I try to find things that are consistent. But I do still have access to Intel and reports that the public does not have access. I know you choose not to believe certain things about travel but that is ok…..you can always check the State Department…even Mexico is getting very, very dangerous especially with kidnappings….but Texas does not have that much anymore. Mainly drugs and guns.

        Remember…your youngster……will be a teenager some day……

  28. Just A Citizen says:

    Well, I have to admit I was caught off guard by this one. Never saw it coming as I was positive he would stay out of this race.

    Romney is calling around to get his “team” back together to make ANOTHER run at the POTUS chair.

    I guess JEB flushed him out. This is going to become SAD before it is over.

    • Can’t even believe it. UGH! I’m hoping he and Jeb just destroy each other and some other (conservative) candidate rises to the top.

  29. Just A Citizen says:

    Before the FAUX PLAYOFF Champion is crowned tonight I thought a big SUFA shout out was due to those who ACTUALLY won football playoff championships.

    Div. III……… U.W. Whitewater on Dec. 19th. Upset the number one team in the country.

    Div. II………. Colorado State-Pueblo, on Dec. 20th.

    Div. I, FCS…….. North Dakota State, on January 10th. FOURTH STRAIGHT NATIONAL TITLE………….. The Buffaloes.

    Now back to your regular NCAA Prime Time hyped cash cow.

    • I wish the playoffs began with the top 12, but it’s better than the old Bowl game BS!

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Re the Cash Cow snark:

      Boise State got around 3 million for the Fiesta Bowl, maybe as high as 4 million. Have not seen the final accounting.

      The Mtn. West Conference got the balance of a $6million payoff to the Conference.

      The value of the “scholarships” for the 80 full rides allowed by the NCAA is about $1.6 million. Assuming tuition/room cost of about 20,000 per year average (resident and nonresident)

      The value of the full rides at the big schools must be around $3,200,000 per year, assuming $40 thousand for tuition/room/board.

      No wonder some schools are opting out of football.

      • Good luck to your Duck’s JAC. I’m on the Buckeye side, but watching the Duck’s win their first National Championship in my lifetime wouldn’t be a bad thing.

      • Mariota looks like a good NFL prospect and should do well, great arm, quick thinker and smart.

        • Just A Citizen says:


          Ohio St. has Mariota’s run game covered. If the Ducks don’t come up with some blocking adjustments it will be a blowout.

          That receiver the Ducks suspended is the guy they count on in the red zone. His suspension is showing already.

          I was hoping to see Oregon vs. Alabama. I thought the Ducks matched up better against Bama, as they were a lot like Florida State. Ohio State is a different matter. This freshman QB is very, very, very, impressive.

          I would say your prediction is looking pretty good right now.

          • I expected OSU to be behind most of this game, rather shocked at this point. OSU’s defense is the difference so far. Another half to go, I am having fun watching a great game.. Nothing ends till the end, I still see this game coming down to the end!

    • UW-Whitewater has had an amazing run. Their head coach is leaving now so wonder if their streak will change.

  30. Dale A Albrecht says:

    The NYC Municiple Id went into effect today. The euphmism used today on NPR for those the ID cards were targeting was “unauthorized” migrants. The estimated potential package of gifts could add up to $2100 if fully utilized. At a minimum that would exceed $1B. The report also went on to encourage citizens to also obtain one so the “unauthorized” migrants will not be stigmatized.
    Could it be De Blasio’s crackdown on loosies was to offset the cost of the grab bag of goodies being made available to those who get a card. The report stated 500,000 “unauthorized” migrants in NYC.

    • Well now, just like the freebie no questions asked welfare of the Lindsay years (welfare population went from below 500,000 in ’65 to 1,200,000 by ’69). See how many new folks this draws to the city from less “progressive” places. That was also when CCNY went “open enrollment” and its reputation fell to below the gutter.

      Read the interesting obit for former Mayor John Lindsay from the “Guardian” Anyone who wants to see where NY is headed would do well to peruse it. Forgot that the Lindsay/Rockefeller/Romney/Scranton wing of the Republican party were called the goo-goos at the time. Brought back a smile! Enjoy.


  31. Not much question after reading this and the links provided to why Obama didn’t go to the march in Paris-or much doubt in how the leaders of Islam feel about free speech. I was actually a little surprised by Hillary Clinton’s participation in this absolute betrayal of
    American values. It really makes me ashamed of my fellow Americans that they would vote for these traitors.


  32. Amazing win by Ohio State!

    • Sure enough G! Congrats to your Buckeyes. I’m so happy for Jones.
      Go Big Ten!

      Too bad for your Ducks JAC. Good job by everyone, though!

      • Just A Citizen says:


        Not really my ducks, I just pull for them as a PAC 12 team. Notice that I did not solicit any wagers on them this year. Ohio State looked way to good against Alabama. And I mean they physically whooped bama. In the end, they did the same thing to Oregon.

        But today I was pulling for them because I cannot stand Ohio State. And their coach solidified my disgust for that program. Woody Hayes ghost is apparently still haunting the locker room.

        Running plays to score with 45 seconds left and Oregon without any timeouts. REALLY??

        That was as classless as it comes.

        • Several reasons I rooted for the Buckeyes. My other (former step)son, 17, has been living with us for the better part of the last 6 months because his dad, the ex, is a —-. He’s a huge OSU fan. Felt bad for the OSU players after the tattoos for sale scene and they got banned from bowl games. And well, Big Ten, duh! But that dang QB gentle giant Jones, WOW! Took over the playoffs like a boss! OSU is still a young team too. Sparty ain’t skerd, though!

        • Running up the score is the norm in college football. Having “polls” to get to the top has been a major cause of this. In retrospect, the way Oregon can score and score fast, OSU did the right thing. I was surprised at how OSU held down the OU offense most of the game. Like you said Ohio State beat them physically. That O-line and running back will keep OSU at the top for awhile. Good game and fun to watch!

        • JAC…..running up the score in college is now something you do….in the past, if you were winning, even by one point, and you know the opposition cannot score…you just let time run out.

          Dallas paid for that, I think it was back in the 70’s, they were beat…and the other team had something like a 14 point lead with 24 seconds left to go……and the other team fakes a kneel down and throws another touchdown…..classless.

    • I’ve been resorting to sarcasm the last few days because it was either that or a very loud, aggressive rant of anger-but this, in all seriousness has the smell of Nazi communism all over it.

  33. The fallout from O’s “Aucune mars pour moi” has been comical. (Unlike our oh so gifted SOS Kerry, I don’t do French, so please blame freetranslation.com if not accurate.) Their idol majorly effed up, and everyone in the world knows and they just can’t deal with it. I now see some poor aide stooge has stepped up to fall on his sword – saying the president wasn’t even made aware of the march! Clueless? Incompetent? Nah, my guess is ValJar totally misjudged this one and hustled down to the aide breakroom and asked for a volunteer to take one for the team. I’m sure the reward will be good. Reality? This pres can’t be seen anywhere near anything that might be seen as anti-Islam, even including radical Islam. His absence was by choice.

    The lapdogs are chasing their tales trying to come up with reasons why it was good that he wasn’t there and I’ve laughed at many of them. But this one might be the best yet.


    • Add this one by John Harwood 🙂

      John Harwood ✔ @JohnJHarwood

      important to note: Hollande asked Netanyahu NOT to attend, was angry he did. Obama may have gotten similar request:

  34. Just A Citizen says:

    As I watched the events unfold in France last week, and then the reactions across Europe, I was struck by the memory of another such event. One that seemed isolated to a single place but ended with the world at war. Was this such a moment? Time will tell. But I find it interesting that many “thinkers” identified the “growing nationalism” in Europe as a “concern” for the coming year. The Economist discussed this at length, along with the weakness of the European economy. Bad economy, increased nationalism, and Islamic jihadists killing people. Might be a toxic mix for 2015.

    Now for a trip down memory lane:

    “On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six assassins (five Serbs and one Bosniak) coordinated by Danilo Ilić, a Bosnian Serb and a member of the Black Hand secret society. The political objective of the assassination was to break off Austria-Hungary’s South Slav provinces so they could be combined into a Yugoslavia. The assassins’ motives were consistent with the movement that later became known as Young Bosnia. The assassination led directly to the First World War when Austria-Hungary subsequently issued an ultimatum to the Kingdom of Serbia, which was partially rejected. Austria-Hungary then declared war.”

    • “……I was struck by the memory of another such event.”

      “…..On 28 June 1914….”

      Exactly how old are you? No idea we had such an esteemed elder amongst us!

      • Just A Citizen says:


        good one my dear. But some days I do feel old as dirt. Others more like a spring chicken.

  35. Now a story that will make us all smile-I actually laughed-I just love Texas

    “Texas Declares “Cupcake Amnesty”

    Have a great day-I’m out of here-gonna go have some fun and forget about the sad shape of our Republic for the day. 🙂


  36. So think about this. Imagine the US elects a man with not only a white heritage, but a black one as well. A second generation African black man. Imagine also this man was primarily raised oversees and attended a Madrasa for much of his early schooling years. He also attended American universities and spent time living on both coasts and the midwest. He spent many years attending a Christian church, including getting married there and baptizing his children there.

    This person represents what is the best of our country. The proverbial melting pot – of skin color, of religion, of ethnicity. We’ve had our share of problems and we’ve made mistakes, without a doubt. And yet, even in spite of these mistakes or maybe because of how we’ve “fixed” these mistakes, we are still the desired place for thousands if not millions of foreigners to travel to and relocate to. They want what we have. Liberty, freedoms, equality and all those other good things that our Founders set up for us.

    Imagine if this person would use his diversity to unite the good that is in his very background. Be a leader for the whites, blacks, Muslims, Christians, east coasters and midwesterners and everyone in between. Speak to a positive future and call out those that wallow in their destructive behavior of bigotry, racism and phobias. Imagine if he spoke (like el-Sissi did), directly to those that espouse and encourage a radical high-jacking of the Islam religion.

    What a different place we could be in today. What a pipe dream.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      All those years of the left ridiculing and chastising the right whenever they would cry about a “slippery slope” and the resultant “denigration of a moral culture”.

      The sad thing is that they still do not recognize this as an erosion or loss of “civilization”. I am sure they still don’t see the slope they are riding down at light speed.

      Too bad they are going to drag the rest of us with them.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Let me add another thought. The left for decades has hammered this notion into our young that they are “just another animal”, that humans are “not really all that special”.

        Is it any wonder that their “norms” approximate and even imitate “animal behavior”??

  37. Just A Citizen says:

    More proof that we grow more STUPID by the day. The film maker and the writer/editor are beyond dumb.

    Wonder if they know how many and how large SEWAGE LAGOONS are in almost every town in America?

    Wonder if they know it is environmental regulations that require the waste to be collected and not allowed to run into surface water (streams, rivers, etc).


    One thing they got right, most people have NO IDEA how their food is produced. Most people have no idea that if we return to old farming practices many of us would starve to death.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Let me correct that last statement. Many of THEM would starve to death.

      • Thanks, 😀

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        All I’d have to do is ask one of my relatives if I can carve off a little piece of the approximately 5,000 acres they own up in PA. to do some food production. None farm anymore due to the subterranean resources. All equipment is still in place, just dormant

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      In Vermont the “Affluent ski on the Effluent”…keep your mouth closed when to miss the mogol and bite the big one.

    • Confined hog houses have been around since the ’60’s. We did some carpentry work on one back then. The ammonia smell inside just takes your breath away.

      In the mid ’60’s, farming changed. Prior to that nearly every farm had mix of grain and livestock farming. Many farms had 20-30 feeder cattle, a half dozen sows for breeding, and chickens for eggs and Sunday dinner. We lived on an 80 acre farm and had a cow for milk, with a calf, sheep for wool, feeder pigs, 1500 chickens (the chickens belong to the tenant farmer), and ducks. We sold eggs, cream, dressed chickens, angel food cakes, wool, and the fattened hogs. We ate chicken, duck, eggs, home churned butter followed by butter milk pancakes. All the waste went back on the land. It was a balanced operation.

      Now most farms in the Midwest specialize in grain only, or grain with a large feed lot. The problem is there are too many head of livestock on a single farm to handle the waste. I have driven past feed lots here in CA with high density cattle or dairy herds. In the rainy season the cattle are standing in 6″-8″ or more of mud mixed with droppings and urine. I am surprised they do not have hoof rot.

      All things in moderation.

  38. How does one have a rational discussion with the person?

    pmbalele • 3 hours ago
    Wait a minute you TPs and Repubs- I thought you had zeroed in with Dr.
    Carson as GOP WH nominee! You remember in January last year you morons ranked Dr. Carson highest as WH nominee. Are you now dumping him because he is Black and anti-guns? That is racism. Now you TPs have switched to Romney; but you know he is Mormon and has 24 grandchildren and will hire Ann Coulter as press secretary. You know Romney will cost tax-payers $1mil a day for upkeep of his grandchildren: hauling them to schools; secret service guards; special food etc. Bush III is a good in my books. But you TPs and Repubs hate him because he has a Mexican illegal wife; and you don’t want another racial family in the WH. If Dr Carson is out as WH contender, then do not tell us you morons are not racists and bigots. We are not dumb to believe that anymore.

  39. Here, when the folks on the Left claim how good Obama has done, lay this on them. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

    • Just A Citizen says:


      I suggest you read pages 29 and 30 of this report. It explains why a significant decrease in labor participation rate was predicted for 2014, back in 2004. Last report I saw claimed “participation” for the over 65 group has rose during the recession, but many of those are now pulling the plug.

      I am not saying things are not worse than some claim, but I am saying there is at least partial truth in the Obama Defenders claiming this is all about “retirement”.


      • JAC, Been digging deep on this one. Last time it was this low was 1978 under Carter. This number 62.7% was the result of the steel mill closings in what is now the “rust belt”. People were retiring back then too. I know way too many people that are past the age of retirement still working (I do all the painting for a lady in Ohio on/in your house, she just turned 74, she works full time still, as does her husband) . So I don’t buy the retirement argument.

        This is however a nice look into the future. Most people vote with their wallet, the last time the numbers got this low we had a one term President, and elected Reagan in a landslide 😉

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          When you have 3,000 applicants to fill one entry level clerks position in < 1 week something is wrong. County HR group can not take the time to return a phone call inquiring about the status of a part time minimum wage driving job due to the huge amount of applicants. Something is wrong. Retirement is one thing but ask how many baby boomers were surplused at 60 and have just plain given up looking for employment.

        • Just A Citizen says:


          You need to read the pages I cited, carefully.

          You cannot dismiss the effect of retirement based on anecdote. In order for retirement to NOT have any affect virtually all of the Boomers would have to still be working or trying to work.

          • I did. The report was trying to predict the future. That report did not take into account the events of 2008 where upcoming retiree’s lost there ass in their retirement account, etc. Much like the 70 + global warming models, that failed because they couldn’t accurately predict the future, the projections became mostly useless due the economic factors it couldn’t use in it’s predictions. Basically, a useless report and a waste of tax dollars, much like the global warming models.

            Hope today finds you and yours happy, healthy and warm my friend 🙂

            • Just A Citizen says:

              What the model predicted is not the important point. It was the demographics and the large variation in participation among those over 60. The Recession could not have completely wiped out that factor. Only reduced it.

              You claim you only deal in facts and truth but when faced with information that does not fit your story you dismiss it out of hand. I suppose that is your choice. But don’t try to claim truth or facts when you arbitrarily dismiss those you don’t like.

              • I do understand your point, but your not seeing the big picture. Maybe retirements have something to do with it, I just don’t believe it’s a major cause of the 4 year decline. Over those 4 years, I have read tons of articles on people giving up on looking for work and then not being counted towards the unemployment numbers. The unemployment numbers have dropped, and the number of working age people working has dropped significantly in a short time. My logic, which is often twisted LOL, is that this has negative results that we can look back in time and see the same numbers as an example. The two numbers combined can only mean ONE thing, less available jobs. Here’s another look at how they figure these numbers: http://www.bls.gov/lau/rdscnp16.htm#cnp

                While retirements may be a factor, as the baby boomers are aging, I don’t know too many that have actually retired. My Aunt for example, is 70 and works 4-20 hours a week at a quilt shop. Not because she has too, but to keep active. The military has also been shrinking, which should offset retirements as they were not projected either. Projection models are only as good as what factors they take into account.

                But it’s fun to look at and discuss. 🙂

  40. @Buck, Been chatting with another person on the “no go zone” subject and he had a similar position as you. He just posted this. (I do not claim that he is a reliable source, he’s a Liberal after all, LOL) (Just joking 😀 )

    James Bagley

    I finally got a chance to talk to a friend of mine from France about those ‘no go’ zones, and he tells me that it’s absolutely true. Both of us were in a hurry, so we didn’t get into a lot of detail, but I’ll find out more about what he has to say soon.

  41. http://personalliberty.com/sandy-hook-families-sue-newtown-schools-citing-lax-security/

    To arm or not to arm. When people ask for gun control, then they have to live with a lack of security. We don’t see schools in Israel getting attacked. Bet everyone knows why too!

  42. D13 – I think you need to take a field trip and check this out. Report back to us what you see/hear.


    • Naaah, Kathy…..they applied for and rented a public center. Perfectly within their rights. They did this last year and it drew about100 people…..it will not draw any crowds. The local police will be taking pictures of license plates of those attending and run checks on them.

      No one around here cares what the Muslim community wants to do. They will hold their little rally and the msm will run a one or two day story and then it all disappears. We learned a long time ago that if you give them a platform….they will use it….

      Let them hold their meeting, collect 20 bucks a head…..and then let them leave feeling all giddy with the warm feelings running down their legs, say nothing and do nothing and it all disappears.

  43. Interesting what France is now doing…..this cut from the AP….

    The French Justice Ministry said 54 people — including four minors — have been detained for defending or verbally threatening terrorism since the Charlie Hebdo attack. Several have already been convicted under special measures for immediate sentencing.

    The government is also working on new phone-tapping and other intelligence efforts against terrorism that it wants nailed down by next week, government spokesman Stephane Le Foll said Wednesday.

    The government is also launching a deeper project to rethink education, urban policies and its integration model, in an apparent recognition that the attacks exposed deeper problems of inequality both in France and especially at its neglected, often violence-ridden suburban housing projects.

    • I’ve been reading a few articles that point out that France limits speech in many ways-so Muslims are confused by why they won’t add criticism of their prophet to the list. But then that is the main reason limiting free speech is bad-someone gets to decide what speech is acceptable and what speech isn’t.

      That old but still correct position:

      “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

  44. I never would have imagined reading articles like this more and more. People are figuring things out. http://personalliberty.com/will-tyranny-terrorism-work-hand-hand/

  45. Just A Citizen says:

    Thought Of The Day

    “Adversity is the trial of principle. Without it, a man hardly knows whether he is honest or not.”

    Henry Fielding

    • When I read this-I kept thinking this reminds me of something-I finally remembered what. 🙂

      It’s In The Valley I Grow

      Sometimes life seems hard to bear,
      Full of sorrow, trouble, and woe.
      It’s then I have to remember,
      That it’s in the valleys I grow.

      If I always stayed on the mountain top
      And never experienced pain,
      I would never appreciate God’s love
      And would be living in vain.

      I have so much to learn
      And my growth is very slow,
      Sometimes I need the mountain tops,
      But it’s in the valleys I grow.

      I do not always understand
      Why things happen as they do,
      But I am very sure of one thing.
      My Lord will see me through.

      My little valleys are nothing
      When I picture Christ on the cross.
      He went through the valley of death;
      His victory was Satan’s loss.

      Forgive me Lord, for complaining
      When I’m feeling so very low.
      Just give me a gentle reminder
      That it’s in the valleys I grow.

      Continue to strengthen me, Lord
      And use my life each day
      To share your love with others
      And help them find their way.

      Thank you for valleys, Lord
      For this one thing I know;
      The mountain tops are glorious
      But it’s in the valleys I grow!

      • Whatever it is to you, it’s right on the money for me today. 😉

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Yep, must be a Catholic author. Who else would believe they MUST feel pain in order to feel God’s love?

        • Well, I’m not a Catholic and I have no problem with this belief. To understand the meaning one might apply the same reasoning as they do to ““Adversity is the trial of principle”-in order to grow and learn one must face adversity-in order to truly understand God’s love one must understand that fact. If not you would remain one of those people who are constantly questioning why a loving God would allow suffering.

          • Just A Citizen says:


            Not even close to the same concept.

            Adversity tests your principles. This is when you will find out how strong they are, or how strong your willpower is to adhere to them.

            But to claim that such adversity is “required” to understand God’s love is to claim that you cannot understand how much God loves you UNLESS YOU SUFFER. Thus my making you suffer is only helping you understand God’s love. So why complain about me making you suffer?

            In fact, would not such a demand actually cause people to question God’s love even more than if they did not suffer???

            The Christian domination of Europe was eroded when the Black Death showed people that God apparently did not care and the Church could do nothing. This “questioning” of the Church’s power and God’s relationship with mankind fueled the Enlightenment.

            That is entirely different than saying one has a greater understanding of life and the world if they experience greater diversity in their lives.

            Call me strange but I do not need pain to understand and appreciate joy.

          • Just A Citizen says:


            One clarification.

            The proper comparison of suffering vs. God’s love to the statement about adversity vs. principles would be:

            Suffering is required to appreciate YOUR LOVE OF GOD. Because it is during tough times that your BELIEF system is tested and you will discover whether your willpower to adhere to your beliefs is strong or weak.

            The comparison is now the same. YOUR principles and YOUR convictions tested by fire or ice, good or bad. Not the love of another.

            • JAC-the comparison was to “In the valley I grow” the discussion about God’s love was just a matter of me explaining the connection. Suffering/adversary is a necessary part of life if one is to grow, learn and really be able to appreciate the good times. You say you don’t have to suffer to enjoy the good-are you sure that is true-if life was simply wonderful and happy go lucky-you might well enjoy it but would you really appreciate it or just expect it.

              • Just A Citizen says:


                Your explanation then still makes no sense to me, for the reasons I stated.

                I disagree that suffering is required to grow or appreciate good times. The only thing that comes close to your argument is that suffering causes you to recognize that good times are not guaranteed. That is how I view it. Not as causing me to appreciate good time any more than before.

                I love to win. I do not need to lose to like winning or appreciate winning any more than without losing. I hate losing, so all losing does is make me feel bad and try harder to win next time.

                I suppose if I NEVER experienced losing I might come to expect winning. But that, to me is not appreciating the feeling of winning. It is expectation, what I think will happen vs. what does happen.

                However, I don’t see how any of this deals with my criticism of the statement about needing to suffer in order to appreciate God’s love for me. How the hell does my suffering inform HIS LOVE?

                What it does do is inform MY beliefs. Thus suffering is a test of my convictions, not God’s.

              • I don’t look at suffering as a test-I don’t ask to suffer-and I sure don’t believe you have to suffer to earn God’s love. I think suffering is a normal necessary part of life if one has free will and wants to live free. I am informed of God’s love because he allows me to suffer, not to punish, but to teach. Now you define love, real love.

    • Adversity is an amazing test of one’s will power in dealing with mostly bad events. I don’t really look at good events as adverse. I think at one point in a person’s life they will experience a life changing event that will define who they really are. I have had mine and would be willing to share if need be. It is what has guided me to this point in my life. I think everyone knows that I’m a full time elderly caretaker. I’m paid thru lottery proceeds to keep my handicapped father out of a retirement home. It’s a long story! Adversity is necessary for your survival, as it tests you. Have you had that big moment in life that has guided you?

  46. Test of the day, what word did I focus on in my reply to this nut?

    The low income, low info voters on the racist- I mean Republican side will never change. They might as well take the Hemingway way out because we’re never going back to white, conservative rule- EVER.

    • voters

      • Nice try, here is what I said:

        I wouldn’t worry about a white, conservative rule, the real problem is your term “rule”. You have accepted being a slave to the government and seem to like it. While being “ruled” might be your idea of freedom, I’m sure there are quite a few who disagree with that reality. Because your right, we are now being ruled. You asked for it and accept it willingly. Think about that!

    • Just A Citizen says:

      A thought on this I had while shopping today.

      We can thank the Anarchists and Pro Cynics for the reinforcements that allow groups like ISIS to grow.

      Think about how many younger people are being flooded with the “America is Evil”, “Whites are Evil”, “Europeans are Evil” crap on a daily basis.

      You have no hope, the Govt is owned by the oligarchs and they are bleeding you dry. Once this hog wash sets up between the ears, where do these people look to save themselves from a life of cynical despair?

      How about to the one “fundamental” movement whose clearly stated purpose is to OVERTHROW all these people you think are evil.

      Just sayin…………….. Cynicism carries a cost.

  47. Just A Citizen says:

    I am reminded of another time, same place, similar actions. Tyranny of fear.


    Oh yeah, the event was called The French Revolution. Lets see how long before they bring out the guillotines.

    One comment on this, regarding Gmans earlier link claiming Globalists are all excited about extending marshal law. Perhaps it is not some globalist conspiracy at all.

    Perhaps it is the PEOPLE who are the cause. The People scream out for their Govt. to protect them, regardless of actual risk. The Govt responds, fearing backlash at the polls.

    The public then screams ………….. Tyranny……………Tyranny.

    Just take Michelle Malkin”s main article today. She is a known critic of Government overreach. Yet today she is taking Govt to task over whether our train systems are safe and WHAT IS THE GOVT DOING ABOUT IT.

    Republicans run on the mushy defense posture of Democrats. So Dems and Repubs get tough on security and defense. We scream ……… Tyranny………..Tyranny.

    This is not to diminish the very REAL threats of tyranny created by fear and over reaching Govt. The author of G’s story was correct about how changing the rhetoric from terrorists to “extremists” can cause expansion and broader violations of liberty. But that is not necessarily the purpose. It could be more of their effort to be politically correct. However, down the road some Bureaucrat or LEO type will decide “extremists” include anyone claiming Tea Party affiliation. Why will they get away with it?

    Because there is a large segment of the left wing already making such claims. And politicians can count votes.

    All of this is intertwined ………… related………… mixed together, etc., etc..

    We need to start recognizing that “we the people” are playing a role in this. Actually several roles, many of which are conflicting. We are not blameless for our plight.

    • Thank you for the kind words. I believe I’m guided by realism, because I can open my mind enough to see what’s going on. Every major action by a large group of people will always be proceeded with small events, events I see as preparation. In this case, I have linked to many, many articles on the se small events. When one opens their eyes and understands what preparation is taking place, one can see the target. People don’t buy enough ammunition and assault weapons for shits and giggles. They don’t give away MRAPs and M-16s all over the United States for fun, there is a reason. They don’t have tens of millions of large plastic boxes and lids scattered all over the US because a “just in case” event happens. They don’t have well stocked underground bunkers all over the US to protect a select group of people because they are afraid of an upcoming alien attack, I think, LOL.

      I haven’t posted the many links that I have read on these subjects as of late. I feel I have warned ya’ll enough by now. What you believe and disbelieve is up to you. I’m conspiracy theorist, remember. Except they aren’t theories. The movement of food to the government bunkers near DC has tripled recently. Maybe one more little piece of info might be helpful. One thing that Black Flag has always said is that Governments are EVIL. He’s right and has already been proven so. The day the Federal govt dictated that all citizens must have health insurance was the day they became dictators and we became the ruled, not the governed. Think about that.

      • The little dictator is playin his hand, but it’s with fake cards:

        The administration claims the policy is “challengeable by no plaintiff, reviewable by no court, and subject to no public input,” lawyers for the states said in an 88-page filing.

        This is treason. yet no one speaks out.


        • If you know your rights and have knowledge of the law, you can be free, otherwise your at the mercy of cops like this. Funny video actually. http://conservativevideos.com/cop-left-speechless-confronts-citizens-bizarre-ammo-sales/

          • Just A Citizen says:

            What a Jack-ass. Good job by the Law Enforcement Officer, keeping his cool under conditions of a deliberate confrontation.

            What do IDIOTS like this expect to accomplish with this stupid behavior??

            Sound like the wingnuts I ran into when the Tea Party got rolling.

            • I did go to a seminar last year concerning conceal carry. I have posted about this, but as far as the video, the cop was wrong to even confront them, as they were not doing anything illegal. My uncle, who is handicapped with a screwed up back, likes to walk his dog at night because it helps him feel better. He open carries a 9mm, which is legal in Ohio. He got attacked by another dog, no shots fired just called the cops to get a police report to deal with any medical issue that the owner of dog will be held liable for.

              The first cop on seen knew him well and thankfully knew the law as well, he was a park cop from Mill Creek Park, in Youngstown, Ohio. The next cops that showed up were Y-town cops. He got the same BS from them, and was even asked to give them his gun, which he refused. They refused to do a police report, did not arrest him because he knew his rights, but they failed to do their job. This is still ongoing because my Uncle don’t take shit from anyone and has made a formal complaint, along with the Park Police officers report.

              Bottom line is this, know your rights and exercise them. Let the BAD cops know we are not NAZI Germany, YET.

  48. Just A Citizen says:

    I suggest folks at SUFA post this on other places when they get that predictable, guns don’t save people, crappola.


    Just remember, every situation is unique. Guns will not save everyone nor will they save the person killed. They save those that get to keep on living.

    Of course guns also kill.

    • A vast majority of crimes are stopped by legal gun owners without a single shot fired, and many never reported. Most decent people like myself and most of us here have no desire to shoot or kill anyone. Up until the end, because people kill, guns are but just a tool. How many have died at the hands of bombs in the last 100 years?

  49. Dale A Albrecht says:

    1) I believe the Republican strategists must start learning the game of chess. Obama claims his “Executive” memoranda changing a statute can not in any way be challenged. Where a memoranda is a real stretch of an “Executive” order and only based on “Opinion” where the president in an “Order” is required to name the legislative statute he is modifying. The “order” can be overriden by Congress just like a veto, and it ends there. The override can not be vetoed. Same as any regulation the administration implements. The override is not subject to VETO. But NO the Congress attaches the specific override of his immigration policy to the Homeland Security Funding bill and hand the Dems a gem of a political move in light of the Boston Bomber trial jury selection and the events in Europe and today’s Diane Feinstein epiphany there are sleeper cells here.

    2) I believe in opposition to to JAC’s statement about the erosion of the christian faith somehow involved the Black Death and God not caring. If I was to make a statement about the Black Death I’d start with the “social” injustice that the nobles had a tendency to survive as opposed to the masses. The nobles had horses mostly and horses do not have fleas. The people that had horses including the working folks carting the bodies with horse drawn carts generally were OK….The precipitous drop in just about any fervent christian religious belief by europeans ended with WWII. The Church, regardless Catholic or Protestant generally stood aside if not supported the Nazis in their march to exterminate the Jews. Austria, pre anschluss was a catholic right wing conservative government that was just as ruthless against the Jews as Hitler became later…..the history of the ghetto is quite informative and the Muslims are filling the space today. The one major difference is the Jewish religion was tagged by the Catholics and Christians as having KILLED Jesus and cursed. They were NOT advocating the overthrowing Europe. Whereas the current batch of religious immigrants are advocating OVERTHROW. Let’s see has this been going on since Xerxes pre Muslim times.

    3) The current Pope stood aside as the cardinal in Argentina while the dictatorships brutally went after anybody who oppose them….cowardise, self preservation? The images that most sticks in my mind after 52 years are the photos of the monks in Vietnam starting in ’63 protesting the policies of the free democratic South Vietnam regime. Sarcasm intended.

  50. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I read today that even the space station is segregated. US side vs Russian side

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