A New Crisis

It takes very little time for the Lefties of our society to climb all over a new tragedy.  A mass shooting in a Christian church in South Carolina kills 9 people.  While that should be the real story, the fact that the killer was white and the victims black, brings racism right back in to every ones homes who watch the MSM.  Of course, the left Wing gun grabbers will be up in arms wanting to take guns from law abiding citizens, with no answer on how to take the guns from the criminals.  I , as others, have posted numerous links and stories about the violence in Chicago and Baltimore over the last Memorial Day weekend, yet no speeches from the President and not mush of anything from the gun grabbers, because most, if not all of the violence that weekend was committed by blacks, against blacks.  Here is our sorry ass President today:

WE don’t even know the whole story of this tragedy yet, but Gun Grabber -N -Chief is out flapping his gums about how this don’t happen in other 1st world countries, which is a lie in it’s entirety.  The UK has 4 times the violent crime, per capita than the US, and they have some serious gun control.  Nothing Obama say’s can be taken seriously anymore, he has ZERO credibility (too bad his flock still believes his bullshit).

When I first heard of this tragedy, my first thought was another young person, on Psych meds, loses his mind again.  I didn’t think of racism, or even the war on Christians, I thought of more victims of Big Pharma.  It is easy to see the correlation, considering the past mass murderers who have been on these meds.  The Left Wing have been pushing a race war, pushing anti-Christianity and when that is combined with a mentally ill person, this is what may happen.  However, I will with hold any conclusion until the information comes out, IF IT COMES OUT!.  I have no doubt that information that may look bad for Obama and the Left will be suppressed or ignored, but, in time, the alternative media will get the truth out.  I follow those who are not of any political affiliation, and I don’t link them here.

As is the usual, it’s always an open forum here.  My opinions are normally ignored, disliked or ignored, so talking about other stuff is cool!  I’m working on a new article, that will take us back in time.  It will be nothing more than past comments and how those comments ended up, true or false (or somewhere in the middle).  Or, ya’ll can tell me that’s a bad idea  🙂



  1. I do try to get a new thread up around 200 comments, to speed up things. Have a great weekend!

  2. Legit question. If this guy identifies as black, is it still a hate crime or just another day of black on black violence?

  3. I think the rant he spewed as he was murdering makes it clear his motive was racist (raping OUR women, taking over OUR country). The reason to choose church as a crime location is that people there will be unlikely to shoot back.

    But to me the neglected fact about gun deaths in the US is that most of them are suicides. Guns make it easy, and apparently a lot of people want to kill themselves. So sad.

  4. A first look at Psych drugs as an issue. This will be ongoing until the whole story comes out, so take with grain of salt: http://www.infowars.com/charleston-shooter-was-on-drug-linked-to-violent-outbursts/

  5. Just A Citizen says:

    Now since Mr. O is claiming that these type of “mass killings” do not happen as often in the “civilized” or “developed” world I wonder if he would enlighten us on which of the following are then NOT CIVILIZED or NOT DEVELOPED.


    I guess he knew that claiming the “whole world” would not get him the result he wanted. Which really is that mass killing is lower where NOBODY has guns. Except that in many of these places the Govt. winds up killing far more “unarmed” people than the crazy citizen ever would.

    • ONCE again, Obama shooting his mouth off before the facts are presented. He has a bad habit of this, only to look a fool when the facts come out. I’ll bet he once again has egg on his face when all is said and done.

  6. My take is very simple. We are not like anywhere else. We have the only truly diverse population in the world. Sure point to Switzerland if you like with its Native (Swiss) plus German plus French plus Italian population but at last count they were speaking over 300 languages in NYC.

    All this comes with a price.

    I often wonder that if we were allowed to see the stats on illegal alien crime and incarceration and removed that from the equation what our true citizen on citizen crime rate would look like.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Without looking, I’d almost bet that the removal of illegal’s from the equation will not change the overall stats very much if at all. Only based by your initial point of the US being the absolutely most culturally diverse nation on this planet.

      Just look at the backlash of the politics in the “enlightened” EU. Greece, Italy (Sicily) specific and Spain are taking it right in the neck on the “migrant” waves and the bordering countries are closing borders. All the elections lately are swinging against the open border concept….I believe because all the countries in europe have a succinct identity and the migrant for the most part are 1) refusing to join and be German, as an example and 2) Europe invented the ghetto and isolated by edict diverse cultures. Not only in some of our lifetimes killed and shipped millions because they were different to the camps. What the “enlightened” europeans continue to do in Africa, their former colonies….and looked the other way to our dear friend the Colonel’s distress the genocide in Bosnia and Serbia.

      We in the USA are the only country. good bad or otherwise have truly taken in and embraced the peoples of the world. Immigration is not the problem. We are all immigrants or decendants of immigrants including the “native” americans……the problem is the DRUGS and crime associated with that abuse. Legalization is not the solution because the overall problem for most is the secondary crime to support the drugs use. That does not go away.
      In the 60’s you’d ask kids at school what they did over the weekend…”oh man, I got some good shit” Yeah but what did you do? “I got so fucked up it was great” These are kids who could do anything and the world was their oyster….unfortunately they run CA now.

      Even in the small city of New Bern 25K people the community is so diverse. The city was founded by people excaping from the religious bigotry of Europe. I have found that the people embrace all peoples young old black white you name it. If you’re an ass regardless you are encouraged to move on. Tonight at just two places there were people from many countries, not just decended from. Age ranged from from 21 – 70+ retired working folks entrepenuers, artists writers military black indian thai white brits surfers fisherman lawyers doctors NEW YORKERS ugh all mixed. It doesn’t matter which hangout you go to it’s the same….these are not tourists.

    • Would you like to know? I have access to the data.

      • I can give this statistic because I help writing the reports. Since the Texas Guard has pretty much taken control outside the 1.5 km zone…. Rapes and sexual assault have dropped 62%…..car theft has dropped 19%……petty theft ( stealing of clothes from homes, etc ) has dropped 9%, shoplifting has dropped according to the shop owners but I have no stat, homicides have dropped 92%, rural trespass has dropped 7%, cattle rustling/theft has dropped to non existent, tourist robberies ( outside the 1.5 km zone ) has been eliminated, robberies inside the U.S. Defense zone has increased but I have no stat on that yet…..

        Anyway, call it what you want…..it is pretty safe, no thanks to the Feds, outside the Defense zone….but in the defense zone, it is still a war.

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          So these crimes are attributed to “illegals” interesting. Does that hold up nationally or just on the border?…not doubting just curious

          • actually not just the border but it is just Texas. This was a State project.

          • Nobody is saying anything…..the stats speak for themselves and conclusions can be drawn from that. We quit reporting things to the media because they never pass it on….we quit reporting things to the Feds because the Feds do not care nor do anything. About 5 years ago, we decided to solve our own problems….and we are doing that. It is a long process but we are doing that.

            THe problem that we run into all the time are the nay sayers who want to claim that it is only the poor trying to find a job….it is not. Not anymore. Now, having said that, it does not mean that everyone is dirty……but the stats have reversed the trend…..60-70 percent are dirty. Dirty means drugs, alcohol, criminal background, weapons, and human slavery.

        • 1.5 km zone-what does this mean? I’ve seen a lot of complaining from people who are stopped inside Texas lines but close to the border-is this the 1.5 zone-if it is maybe they should quit complaining.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            Even in the 60’s you would be stopped by the border patrol many miles inside CA after re-entering the States from Mexicali,

            All vehicles used to be stopped and searched entering CA for produce, confiscated if found and destroyed.

          • Just A Citizen says:


            As I recall the Colonel’s explanation this is the distance from the border the Feds told the State to Back Off. Claiming sole authority within this zone. So Texas said fine, and set up their defensive line at the 1.5 K line.

            This happened shortly after or during the time the FEDS were fighting with Arizona and its new traffic stops which allowed them to ask for ID and proof of citizenship if need be.

          • THere are several zones in the state…it is actually tied to geography…..for example, the point in Texas where Interstate 20 and Interstate 10 connect….is a check point….open 24/7 but it is mobile…but only mobile within a certain perimeter. The 1.5 kilometer zone along the border is a State Guard line….but about 15 kilometers inside the state are checkpoints set up on major highways….for example, Interstate 35 that runs NOrth from Laredo….has a checkpoint…cameras,,dogs,..and mirrors…..weight station for weighing cars. THere is computerized program tied to the weight stations and the data for all vehicles are stored in this data bank…..if you are in a car whose weight with fuel and four passengers registers 3,000 pounds….and the data bank shows the car should weigh 2200 pounds…..it is considered dirty and is pulled over and searched thoroughly. Outside of Brownsville, there are check points…..same for Eagle Pass.

            We do the same for trains….and when trains roll into a rail yard, they are always searched.

            • Dale A Albrecht says:

              Sir….great information….covers all the questions….I guess the key is NOT to be on the FEDs tit and have NO Fed owned property in the State and you can tell them to blow it out their A..es…..you’d think Arizona would have succeeded in their attempt to mirror Texas and actually enforce Federal Law or directives. But I believe with weenies like McCain as senior senator who is a left of center politician, they can not stand the federal pressure.

              Have you ever bought any wine from Brennan Vineyards in Tejas?

      • I love to learn ANYTHING!

  7. This event should not surprise anyone. It’s sad that someone is sick enough to kill unarmed innocent people, but to do it, as being reported this morning, because of their skin color is no different from Muslim extremist’s mass killing Christianss or Jews because of their religion. But why is this not a surprise? That answer is easy, when one goes back and looks at the comments under articles about Baltimore, Ferguson, Zimmerman/Martin and other such events. You will see comments like “they are trying to start a race war”, ” they are pushing for a race war”. and many other similar comments. The MSM, especially MSNBC, are the champions of the push on “white privilege” and “white rule” and other such nonsense.

    When people see the Al Sharpton’s and Obama’s (both) running their mouth before the facts are on the table, it’s easy to get upset at their stupidity. Obama, who should not be put in the same sentence with Al Sharpton, is just like the man. It started a long time ago with the arrest of a black professor in the Northeast and continues today, as you can see for yourself above.

    Now, for the hard part, putting things in perspective. being a racist won’t lead one to be a murderer. Being a murderer does not one make a racist. But when your both and what you see and read is all pointing to a race war, you do stupid stuff, like murder 9 people in a church. This is not an excuse by any means, I think the young man is seriously mentally ill. He had issues with the law and could NOT legally be in possession of a gun. The gun grabbers will ignore that fact.

    There are large numbers of reports of blacks attacking whites. They aren’t hate crimes under this administration, it seems blacks can’t hate like the privileged whites. I know Buck won’t like this, but the Left have been pushing the buttons for a race war for years, now, the chickens have come home to roost. They finally get a white person who is a racist who took to violence. I fully expect MORE attacks on white people by blacks. And the circle will roll along, just as the Left asked.

    • Oh, let us not miss the fact the in South Carolina, churches are NO GUN ZONES by law.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        The Salon article raises questions that many Black Americans are asking themselves. Right or wrong this is the current mindset.

        So how do the rest of us respond to this line of argument?

        It is a sophisticated rhetorical “trick” based on fallacy. But can we articulate that to the media or to our friends when challenged?

        Let me start it off. The arguments about lack of Black Fathers being connected to the crime levels and poverty in Black neighborhoods comes from Black Leaders. It was not created by white people or Fox News. Whites picked up on in when Black leaders started admitting it was a problem.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          I agree. When fallacy overcomes reality, there is not much one can do but watch it play out. The only th I g that is possible is to denounce the fallacy and make good use of the known common denominators, which we here are well aware of.

          I do expect violent retaliation against white people. It is in their culture. A race war is not a good idea. When the c.f.damn President is a party too it, I can only suggest exercising you 2nd Amendment rights in your state and be vigilant and prepared if you have to defend yourself. I won’t have issues where I’m at, but many others could.

  8. Raise your hand if you survived a childhood in the 60s, 70s, and 80s that included one or more of the following, frowned-upon activities (raise both hands if you bear a scar proving your daredevil participation in these dare-devilish events):
    1.Riding in the back of an open pick-up truck with a bunch of other kids
    2.Leaving the house after breakfast and not returning until the streetlights came on, at which point, you raced home, ASAP so you didn’t get in trouble
    3.Eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in the school cafeteria
    4.Riding your bike without a helmet
    5.Riding your bike with a buddy on the handlebars, and neither of you wearing helmets
    6.Drinking water from the hose in the yard
    7.Swimming in creeks, rivers, ponds, and lakes (or what they now call *cough* “wild swimming“)
    8.Climbing trees (One park cut the lower branches from a tree on the playground in case some stalwart child dared to climb them)
    9.Having snowball fights (and accidentally hitting someone you shouldn’t)
    10.Sledding without enough protective equipment to play a game in the NFL
    11.Carrying a pocket knife to school (or having a fishing tackle box with sharp things on school property)
    13.Throwing rocks at snakes in the river
    14.Playing politically incorrect games like Cowboys and Indians
    15.Playing Cops and Robbers with *gasp* toy guns
    16.Pretending to shoot each other with sticks we imagined were guns
    17.Shooting an actual gun or a bow (with *gasp* sharp arrows) at a can on a log, accompanied by our parents who gave us pointers to improve our aim. Heck, there was even a marksmanship club at my high school
    18.Saying the words “gun” or “bang” or “pow pow” (there actually a freakin’ CODE about “playing with invisible guns”)
    19.Working for your pocket money well before your teen years
    20.Taking that money to the store and buying as much penny candy as you could afford, then eating it in one sitting
    21.Eating pop rocks candy and drinking soda, just to prove we were exempt from that urban legend that said our stomachs would explode
    22.Getting so dirty that your mom washed you off with the hose in the yard before letting you come into the house to have a shower
    23.Writing lines for being a jerk at school, either on the board or on paper
    24.Playing “dangerous” games like dodgeball, kickball, tag, whiffle ball, and red rover (The Health Department of New York issued a warning about the “significant risk of injury” from these games)
    25.Walking to school alone
    – See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-last-rebels-25-things-we-did-as-kids-that-would-get-someone-arrested-today_062015#sthash.L9F3Ey9p.dpuf

    • Guilty on all counts your honor.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Push back another decade…and guilty on all charges.

      ….You can add driving jeeps way before it was legal out in the desert.
      ….Actually shooting woodchucks from the back porch at the farm
      ….At 14 going to Mexico on a 9 day rock climbing expedition in Memorium of a friend who had been killed on the peak earlier.
      ….The day I gt my learners permit at 15 1/2 drove from LA to PA. Mom couldn’t drive due to new contacts. and then most of the way back via the Tetons and Yellowstone
      …..Unpadded playground equipment.
      …..put rocks in the snowballs
      …..No babysitter in Woodstock NY < 6 years old. That is until we sampled the liquor cabinet. I still won't drink gin. That was punishment.
      …..Actually were made to apologize and pay an old lady for some damage to an abandoned barn in the woods. No parental backup. Had to ring the bell alone.
      …..Took off on an exploration trip through the sequoia's just to see what was around the camp. Went cross country, no map until hit one of the forks of the Kaweah river.
      …..At 17 went solo on a month long rock climbing trip through the Sierra's
      ….At 7 took off on a bike exploration with brother who was 9 from Calabasas (Hidden Hills) up through Old Topanga Road.
      …..hard hat diving off Catalina at camp when 11. Images of the old Ray Milland movies if the guys topside stopped pumping.
      …..NO TV
      …..Alway wore seatbelts unless riding outside the vehicle
      …..Never touched drugs

      Those were the days….I miss them dearly

      • Aahhhhh….dont forget spud guns, and rubber band guns made with clothespins, and Shooting your brother or sister in the ass with a Daisy BB gun with the retractable pump mechanism so you air charge those bad boys……a good forty foot range on those suckers. Pop the neighbors dog in the ass and send him scurrying.

        Rocks in snowballs for that extra distance….or better yet, take the snow balls and spray a light moisture over them and put them in the freezer…..then have that snowball fight BUT remember,,,,they could be thrown back at ya..

        And dont forget going to the store with empty coke bottles for a 2 cent return..and then buying the wax soda candy in different colors 6 for 5 cents. Or Bit O Honey, candy cigarettes and bubble gum cigars. The Pearson’s salted nut roll or a payday. PEZ dispensers in all shapes and sizes….cant leave out FIZZIES and red hots.

        Can’t leave out collecting baseball cards wrapped in the bubblegum wrappers….I still have Roger Maris and Mickey Mantle and Don Drysdale..( Baseball players for you millenium babies…) listening to the TRANSITOR radio when Maris hit his 60th home run and then Mantle all without steroids.

        Ahhhhh…the ever loving peanut butter log and Boston Baked Beans.

        Going to chemistry lab in high school and making blowguns out of the hollow glass tubes that were a perfect size for the stick matches…you could leave the striker on the match and shoot across the room and hitting a hard target and having them light…..or for the more adventurous types….snipping off the strike end, inserting a needle in the end of the match stick and shooting at the walls with self made darts….or your favorite class asshole.

        Mattel rifles that would shoot a little spring loaded bullet….putting caps on the end of the reloadable cartridge so you would have a bang…….and having wars…….no one lost an eye.

        riding bicycles to school several blocks away and attaching playing cards in the spokes of your bike sounding really cool….not to mention the bell mounted on your handlebars that acted like a horn….and the tassels and streamers that would flow in the wind attached to the end of your handlebars…

        Soaping windows on Halloween….or “wrapping” your girlfriends house…..

        Listening to the HI FI with clay and vinyl records in in 33 1/3, 45, and 78 rpm.

        Kids all walking the neighborhoods during Halloween without parents because they were not needed…and you carried an extra pillow case because your first one filled up with candy and apples and oranges and nobody stuck razor blades in them or laced your candy with drugs.

        Muscle cars…..with 8 track stereo….and to close with,,,,the drive in theaters and the local car hop restaurant…..carhops with roller skates and a hamburger all the way with fries and a large coke $1.90.


        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          …..No allowance, ever
          …..Chores at home, without pay…example lawn mowing at 7 yrs old, pool cleaning etc
          …..Paying chores next door helping tend the neighbors 22 quarter horses. Started at 7 years old. Swamping stables and corrals. Feeding, haying and currying.
          …..Helped break the same horses because I was little.
          …..Could go riding without parents…they didn’t ride horses.
          …..Sledding in CA without snow on the dried grass….that was hairy
          …..4-7 with neighbor kids taped M80’s to flying model planes….spectacular
          …..Not quite spud guns, but pipes, a charge, some sort of hard projectile shot out over gravel pit…..
          …..oohed and awed over sputnik
          …..Actually could go out to the hangers at Idylwild (sp) will waiting for Dad to come in.
          …..Capture the flag over very large tracks in the Catskills and later out at the rocket sled rail at Edwards AFB…..gross, the pieces of equipment included fragments of test pilot gear.
          …..Actually walked around an X-15 while they were mounting it on the B-52 for it’s last flight.
          …..Walked or sledded or sometimes rode a bike 3.5 miles each way from K-2 in NY then from 7th grade – 12th in LA.
          …..Once we got our drivers license had to maintain the cars for the privilege of use. Modifications were allowed.
          …..Just after I got my license I had an accident with my brothers car. I bought him a new one. As a lesson about borrowing and replacing in kind if something happens.
          ……From that we built the 1st street legal and fully insured dune buggy in SoCal.
          ……Cruising Van Nuys blvd and Sunset Blvd
          ……TP’ing and it was not considered an act of vandalism…..generally you’d just the next morning go by to admire the handiwork, get a good laugh and clean it up.
          ……Take the sailboat without parents out to Catalina and the Channel Islands.
          …..Paper drives and bottle drives to raise summer camp money. So no cost to parents.
          …..We built all our own personal electronics…from Heathkit.
          …..Maintained fruit trees, bought and sold oranges, grapefruit, walnuts, apricots and palmegranetes age 11-16.
          …..Had usually 7-8 yard maintainance jobs, not just mowing. Usually one big new landscape job. The maintenance contracts were $100.00 moth each.
          …..School sports…we paid for our own uniforms and insurance
          …..School supplies….we paid for our own.
          …..Non school related items…NOT allowed on campus ever….No theft or distractions.

          • Cherry bombs and M-80’s….oh man. Those were some days,,,,,,you can still get M-80’s in Mexico….have not seen a real cherry bomb since the 80’s.
            ‘But Roman Candle duels and fights.

            My dad telling me that to tattle is like asking someone else to do your fighting. If you run into a bully…..fight back. Even if you lose, fight back. Never tell a teacher that there is a bully….usually you could get several to approach the bully because you are never the only one….the tattle tell was always disliked.

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          Oh we had bullies,,,boys and girls…the school never intervened….why? because as it turned out there was always someone tougher who’d take care of the problem usually sooner than later. Sometimes on the playing field, sometimes “under the bridge” after school hours. Sometimes by letting them run out of air and they’d go away…..once a guy who mentally snapped after becoming a karate expert, decided to start picking fights. One day a guy from the football team, who was small headed the guy off and before the karate dude could land the first kick, Chip beat him to a pulp and put him in the hospital. Of course Chip was suspended for a week after the princpal thanked him over the PA. We never saw the karate guy ever again.

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          Colonel…I have one for you. After one of the guys organized a “wrapping” party of his girlfriends house she knew who did it. She and some of her girlfriends went down the street to his parents house, calmly knocked on the door….explained what Tim did and asked if the could come in and see Tim’s room. The parents allowed them in and the girls filled his room completely full with newspaper so full you could not open the door. Out or in was via the window. The parents supervised….I’m sure they helped carry paper in.

          • Never had that but did have the revenge wrapping….then it would escalate….for example, wrap the trees….and turn on the garden hose and wet it down in the trees….THAT really pissed the parents off……the result was you got to go no where until the TP was completely out of the trees.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Was your “Red Rover” like….one person was “IT” everyone else lined up on one side of the field, parking lot, whatever. The “IT” person yelled “Red Rover everyone come over” Your goal was to make it to the other side. The “IT” person’s goal was to tackle, subdue and then lift the person he caught off the ground for a count of three. You by the way could fight back. If the “IT” person succeeded now the subdued person was on his team. This went on until there was only one left. Then the winner was “IT”.

  9. Just A Citizen says:

    Progressive Republicans revealed by gun violence. Or ……………. “There should be a law”…

    Can anyone left or right tell me what it means “to have a conversation about mental illness”????

    Here is what I hear. “We need massive FEDERAL spending to …………………”.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Note the estimates. About 25% of American adults with mental illness and $300 billion per year “economic burden”. This last phrase is not explained. But think of this:

      If 25% of US adults need some type of “care” that will be over 30 million people. Assume $25,000 per year “cost” of treatment as an average, that comes to 750 BILLION per year.

      The cost to “care” for those who cannot take care of themselves is in excess of $100,000 per year.

      These are MY numbers, estimates I developed when trying to show State politicians the cost of NOT treating Autism properly at an early age. So they are not validated.


      • Mental illness needs to be redefined. It needs to be narrowed. Significantly. Same with Autism Spectrum. It needs to be narrowed. Significantly. Take out all the substance abusers that have a mental illness diagnosis (because mcaid won’t pay for a substance abuse diagnosis) and that 25% will shrink dramatically.

        Start teaching children (and adults) that ‘mental illness’ is not an excuse for bad behavior. That bad behavior is NOT a mental illness. Start reinforcing negative consequences for bad behavior and stop giving a pill to make them ‘feel better.’

        Maybe even start teaching people to get away from the TV and video games. Teach them some responsibility, morals, and good work ethics?

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          See Gman’s, Mine and D13’s stuff we did as kids.

          I know if I was in school today I’d be diagnosed with ADHD. Most of the time I was bored with the classes. Still got a high B. The school was not an easy school scholastically. So today with the dumbing down so everyone can get a gold star…I’d be asleep…..The only bad thing that came out of school was acquiring terrible study habits.

          As I’ve said before in posts, we had a 4400 kid 3 year high school. There were exactly 4 kids who had diabetes. That’s .09%. Today aren’t the numbers pushing 25% (I do not know)

          PE was required even if a kid was considered having a physical condition. A special class but they still got a workout of a sort.

          The school was fair on it’s decipline and rules. Except one teacher, Mr Kidder. He had a serious issue with be vertically challenged. Anyone who was an athlete had to be careful around him and tread lightly. He’d roam the halls looking for the slightest infraction…the chits he wrote out generally were ignored by the school though.

          • Yes, I did many of the same things when I was a kid. I’m not exactly a spring chicken. 🙂
            And, much like you, I’m sure I would be diagnosed with ADHD. Only back then it was called BEING A KID. Most of school was boring to me so I didn’t put in a lot of effort. Still had B’s and C’s without trying.

            If we acted up in school we would get a paddling. And if the parents found out about it we would get it at home as well.

            If we couldn’t play basketball – we didn’t make the basketball team. If we couldn’t play football – we didn’t make the football team….etc. Maybe we got our feelings hurt, but we lived though it. And we turned out for the better as a whole. We didn’t have all this P.C. crap and not all kids got a ‘gold star’.

            • Dale A Albrecht says:

              No kids ever wanted to have a letter sent home to the parents. The parents after surviving the crash of ’29, Subsequent depression, WWII and some Korea and mostly all coming from immigrant families in one way or another, some even the holocaust…did not put up with crap from their kids. But we also were afforded unlimited opportunity and freedom. Most did not waste it.

              …….immigrant families I’m including those from Texas like Dan Blocker etc.

              • I do miss those days, when life was far less complicated and school officials had common sense. I agree with the bully stuff, usually always taken care of. Had one that liked to hit girls. He found himself on the wrong end of a pile driver on the sidewalk. He didn’t return to our school after that.

            • Oh yeah…..I totally forgot about the “licks”……with a paddle that was as big as a howitzer…or it seemed that way. And if you got “licks” at school…….you did not want that to be found out by your dad…..you always got another one at home. Junior high school Mr. Kudlaty…..swung a mean paddle….

              As to the sports….yes. You simply did not make the team…..it was about who was best…not about everybody getting along. Even in the summer time when school was out and you wanted to join a little league team…you had tryouts and a draft. Same for any organized sport. There were no “participation” trophies. And if a kid cried because he did not get on a team……he was called a cry baby.

              Oh well….

              And the muscle cars……you could raise the hood and actually work on your own car. There no metrics….just a set of American Standard tools and a manual torque wrench and timing light…..And you better remember to take the carburator off before attempting the manifold…..a screw dropped into a 4 barrel carb……THAT is a real bummer.

              • Dale A Albrecht says:

                Mom couldn’t understand why the tires on her car wore out at 10K miles. Hint…They were left on the road in twin black stripes….with the 4 barrel carburator you literally poured raw gas into the engine…at 27 -30 cents a gallon even before modfications by us the car really hauled. When the parents moved to Oregon from CA, the 1st mechanic went through the engine and started removing parts, saying well you don’t need this, and this and this. The performance sky rocketed. He also built rails so he knew what he was doing.

                Sir…I’m sure you had ski boats on the lakes?

              • Dale A Albrecht says:

                My step kid used to complain that he never won at a track meet. And bitched that one guy always won events like shot put, javelin, disc….I always said if you want to compete…practice and train…nobody is going to give it to you….don’t sit in front of the TV and computer and expect to win against a guy striving for the olympics…you can do it if you have the will….the winner used to get Al Order (sp) to train him….he trained to the exclusion of all else. A bit of an obsession but he won and obtained his goals in athletics.

    • Well, sure, we can talk. Let us first distinguish between a true mental illness and a temporary state of mind brought about by nonstop negative propaganda. I can’t help but think of the huge crowds who looked so elated when Hitler would be in a parade or give a speech. Were all of those people mentally ill?

  10. Just A Citizen says:

    Black woman heckles Don Lemon and Pres. Obama live on CNN. Calls them Uncle Toms.

    She claims “White people are terrorists” and you need to tell the truth.

    There you have it!

    And people say there is no such thing as a mass psychology created by propaganda!

    • Mass psychology-sounds like an interesting topic-I find it hard to believe that people wouldn’t believe that it exists-just look at the political divide in this Country, that alone should prove it’s existance and it’s ability to turn people into unreasonable robots ranting in tune. I suppose the main problem is that there is a small number of people who lead the charge and have the power to impose the extreme on the rest of us. But we with our supporting of the “Cause” empower them.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        It goes right along with ” tell the same lie enough, it becomes fact in the minds of people” this I what all the white privilege propaganda has done to the minds of blacks. This is also on purpose, because if blacks ever figured out the real problem, Democrats, the party would cease. To exist. Get blacks to hate white conservatives, brainwashing complete.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        This is not the type of psychology I was talking about but it is an example of another type.

        That being the refusal to admit to truth because to do so would violate your core “belief” system. This is the one the anarchists and conspiracy crowd accuse us normal people of all the time. Because it does exist it is always worth taking the time to check our premises and beliefs when faced with evidence something is wrong.


      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Isn’t the blacks blaming the white culture for all their problems taking a page out of Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” where he blamed all Germany’s problems on the Jews?

        Headline…”The world is stunned by the continued racism and gun violence in America”

        Can someone please explain to me how all the acts of terrorism around the world mostly elsewhere, with a 35% uptick lately can not be classified as a HATE crime?

        • Isn’t the blacks blaming the white culture for all their problems taking a page out of Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” where he blamed all Germany’s problems on the Jews?

          BINGO! I have been chastised quite often for referring to our Progressive Lefties as NAZI’s. Finally, someone else is seeing what I have seen for a very long time! Thanks Dale!

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            You do not need a gun to commit a hate crime. Just ask anyone in Europe. They use what is at hand if a gun is not available. Knives, machetes, cars, and explosives….even in 2000, in the UK, if you made ANY joke or comment at a transport terminal about the IRA or the troubles, you would be severely inconvenienced. And I do not mean for a few minutes.

            • True. Without the evil thoughts, the tool just sits there unused. If you recall, after Memorial day and all the violence in Baltimore and Chicago, we didn’t hear much from the Left Wing media nor the president. When a white idiot kills some black people, in lesser numbers than what I noted, we get all this BS about gun control and racism. It is this BS that is causing hate and division, but telling them that would be like pissing into the wind, you’ll just get spit on.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      And here we have an example of the psychology of hate and bigotry.

      Oh the irony, a bunch of hateful bigots accusing everyone in the South of being bigots.

      The article is just one of many “new history” types which ignores actual history in favor of modern political movements or attitudes.

      It is the comments on this article which get to the “group think” mentality. Perhaps the echo chamber affect of the blogosphere contributes, but the theme exists in other forums.


      One more “Oh the Irony”…………. The left which is all tied in knots over the Confederate Battle Flag are the same people celebrating destruction of the American Flag as “free speech” because the flag represents nothing tangible……….it is only a piece of cloth.

      • We can actually agree on something 🙂 The hatred is becoming a concern of many. As I said in the main article, it seems the Left want a race war. Silly desire.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Not only that….the very people screaming for diversity are usually against anything but “Group Think” That is not diversity. Diversity is not only in being but thought also.

        What was the old Genesis story about with the “Tower of Babel” GOD created diversity. It is all about eliminating group think and challenging nature which I will say is GOD.

  11. On a side note, despite of the melodrama in the HoR over the fast track bill for the TPP, it, as expected passed while the news was on this shooting. It now goes back to the Senate, where it will pass there as well. It is my opinion that Congress lacks the Constitutional authority to do this, because this is a change in what requires for passage of treaties.

  12. As CBS News reported: Since January, Roof has been arrested twice, both at the Columbiana Mall in Columbia, S.C. According to arrest records obtained CBS News investigative producer Laura Strickler, on February 28, Roof went into a Bath and Body Works store wearing all black and asked “out of the ordinary questions,” including how many associates were working, when they closed and what time they leave. … The officer noted that Roof was becoming increasingly nervous. He searched Roof and found “orange strips” that Roof said were “suboxone,” a Schedule 3 narcotic. Roof was arrested and his 2000 Hyundai Elantra was towed. A user of this drug on the web site MD Junction noted that her husband “became violent,smashing [sic] things and threatening me,” after just a few days of coming off Suboxone. Another poster at MD Junction tells the story of how his personality completely changed as a result of taking Suboxone. The person related how he became “nasty” and “violent” just weeks after beginning the drug, adding that he would “snap” and be mean to people for no reason. – See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/big-pharma-responsible-for-another-mass-shooting-sc-church-shooter-took-psych-drugs-before-attack_062015#sthash.QRpHVBU5.dpuf

  13. Hough’s biggest worry was the perception of hunters in full camouflage carrying a “military-style” weapon into the woods, saying some landowners have threatened to post their property as private if the law changes.

    I laughed out loud when I read the comments posted. First, hunters must have permission to hunt private property, so the landowners know what is going on. Most hunting, with a rifle, requires blaze orange to be worn. The exception….coyote hunters. What is funny about this is that most coyote hunters will hunt in the winter, when the critters have their winter coats. With the permission requirement, the “fears” promoted are unwarranted.

    For the record, I’m all for semi-autos for coyotes, fox and woodchuck. However, that’s where it ends. Deer, elk and bear are just fine with manual action rifles. I have many reasons behind this thought.

  14. Just A Citizen says:

    Watched the Charlie Rose interview of Putin last night. Rose moderated a panel discussion at the Russian International Economic Conference. It was quite interesting.

    Putin did a great job of channeling Black Flag. Which begs many questions.

    How much truth is in what Putin says? How does this truth relate to what Putin and Russia is really up to?

    Based on Putin’s comments about how the world should work, I do not understand the cold relationship with Obama. They seem to be on the same page relative to the underlying goals and values. Namely “all nations are equal” and “nobody should dominate the others”.

    I think Putin is playing off the anti-American sentiment among minor economic powers to position himself and Russia as a leader in this effort. He was applauded warmly when criticizing US policies of intervention and “demanding” things from others.

    Oh, and he took a very long time to deny Russian presence in Ukraine while also stating that Ukrainians are Russians in ever way but national name. Any questions on the future of Ukraine?

    One other thing, and perhaps the most important. Putin stated several times that Russian self interest would be decided by Russians and not other Nations, especially the USA. And if the USA thinks it can threaten some kind of ultimatums or force against Russia we are in for some serious opposition. He clearly stated, “WE will pursue our own National Interests”.

    The key follow up to this was not asked. At least not directly. That should have been “What do you consider Russia’s national interest”?

    I got one other thing from this. Putin went on at length about the “restructuring” of the Russian economy that is about complete. This reminded me of the old saying that when your efforts are going to poo, REORGANIZE.

    • Do you recall Obama getting caught talking to that one Russian saying he will have more freedom after the election (or something like that)? Is it not possible that they are acting in coordination for reasons unknown? Many people seem to think so.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Obama clearly does not like and is incapable of governing and all the horse trading it takes to run a democracy. All he’s accomplished as a legacy is divide this country along all line, further than it was at any time since the Civil War.

        • Just curious, could all this division crap just be something to keep people occupied while something else is happening but little notice is attended to it?

      • Yup. I remember that. And I think it is highly likely they are acting in coordination.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        The biggest issue today with our “democracy” and those countries that we are imposing our philosophy on believe that the “MAJORITY” rules, be it 50.00001% OK in concept, but the key is to get the other 49.00009% to say, “I can live with that”…unfortunately Congress voted in because of lying and parlimentary tricks the ACA inspite of the vast majority of the people disagreed. They still do. Now congress who now reflect more closely the peoples wishes may try and repeal it or portions of the law, but the POTUS veto’s it and the law get more deeply entrenched….but for power, position and wealth, congress will never seriously challenge the law. Even if a GOP candidate get to be POTUS.

        With that thought ISIS is our creation by walking out of Iraq before the Shia got the message..Basically the Sunni walked away (gently said) after being driven out of the government and had no say anymore. That is why ISIS just appeared with equipment, training and are a force to be reconned with. I bet they will merge with Assad and crush the anti Assad forces. The Kurds are fighting them seriously because they are still trying to recover their country cut up by the European deals post WWI.

    • Just re-wind to the days of Reagan, Bush 1 and Gorbachev and project what was SUPPOSED to happen. Clinton, Bush 2 and Mr. Incompetent blew it.

      While the latent paranoid in me sees the result as the Military Industrial Complex needing another Cold War for their purposes, the realist sees this cross the board, political, academic, military industrial and even plain folks needing someone or something to rally against.

      Twenty-five years after the evil empire fell, pundits still slip and refer to Russia as the Soviet Union.

      Had we not engineered the coup in the Ukraine, I doubt that Russia would be in there now or that it would be an issue. As the invasion of Iraq and the subsequent mishandling begot ISIS, so did our push to militarize the former satellite states and drag them into “our” camp.

      • Read the piece on Stephen Cohen. I’ve seen him several times and agree with just about everything he says. Pointing out that Putin is the most Democratic leader Russia has had in 400 years does not make him George Washington, it just points out the very bad place and long road Russia will have to take to even approach modern democracy and representative government.


      • Just A Citizen says:


        Putin’s discussion of Iraq during questions was most revealing. He kept talking about how the “balance” had been upset by the Iraq invasion. The irony here is that so many people have expressed hatred for the USA because of the moves we made to “maintain stability” in the world. Stability was the goal and often tyrants were tolerated to achieve it.

        A truly Progressive Republican, Bush II, comes along and decides that stability is outdated and we need to spread “freedom”. The LEFT goes ape and messes all over themselves expressing their venomous hatred of “nation building”, despite Clinton doing the same damn thing. Then Putin complains we abandoned “stability” while himself pushing his power into his neighbors countries.

        SK, I still have not seen any evidence that the USA “orchestrated” the Coup in Ukraine. Putin did not even state such. He did mention, as has been reported, that the US met with the rebels thus giving them confidence, and the appearance of public support. His comment was that this was an obvious slap in the face to Russia and others who wanted Ukraine to settle its own affairs. Of course at the time those affairs were being aligned to Putin’s desires, but that is beyond the key point.

        The USA used to “orchestrate” coups. That involves much more than just meeting with rebels and expressing support for their new govt. should it succeed. We used to funnel weapons, assassinate people, all kinds of things I consider part of “orchestration”.

        So I disagree with the argument we “orchestrated” the coup. But there is no doubt that the US getting mixed up with the Rebels has caused heartburn in Russia as well as some other countries.

        And like I have said before, our getting mixed up in that is not consistent with other foreign policy decisions nor Mr. Obama’s stated outlook on the world. I simply cannot figure out what our policy is, except to attack brush fires as needed to shore up perceptions of political weakness.

        • Not sure what, short of admission from the Fed’s, you would require to believe the US orchestration of the Ukrainian coup, but here is a start: http://www.bing.com/search?q=US+orchestrates+Ukraine+coup&qs=n&pq=us+orchestrates+ukraine+coup&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=e00ba49feaac4e4bb64a65a6a84d524d&first=9&FORM=PERE

          There are only 2 plus million links available.

          • Just A Citizen says:


            There is no “admission from the Feds” that goes beyond what I have stated. Nothing that I have seen. Your 2 plus million links are nothing but people repeating the same stuff someone else put on the net. You should understand how that works after we exposed so many fraudulent reports here before.

            I provided you with my understanding of “orchestrate”. It means that WE CAUSED IT. We came up with it, funded it, organized it and stood behind those carrying it out. Expressing support for Rebels may cause issues of all kinds but that is not “orchestrating” a coup.

            You want an example of an attempt to “orchestrate a coup”?? Bay of Pigs.

          • Just A Citizen says:


            By the way, since your so entertained by the various conspiracy ideas out there.

            Have you ever asked yourself why the Anarchist and CT sites take whatever Putin or Pravda put out there at face value? Why is it that so many will repeat what Russia or China or Venezuela or Cuba or even North Korea say and use that a proof of US wrong doing?

            Since they are all evil would that no cast doubt on those who repeat the lies of evil Nation States? How do you know what is really true?

            Are Russian troops and equipment in Ukraine or aren’t they? If you say no, what is your source? I am betting it can be traced to Russian sources. Just as evidence of their presence can be traced to US sources.

            • None of the sites I have read mention Putin or Pravda or any of the other countries you mentions. You must have found a new group of CTers that I’m unaware of. I don’t frequent Anarchist sites. I stopped following the events in Ukraine once the new US sponsored government took over. Basically, that’s over and a waste of time. If I looked hard enough, I can find a video of an upper echelon US government employee in a meeting with the eventual leaders in Ukraine. But honestly, Ukraine is an old issue, it’s current issues are at a standstill and likely to stay that way for some time. When it kicks back up, then maybe it’s worth the time to chat about 🙂

              On a lighter note, did you happen to notice the likeness of hairstyle of Roof and Lanza? Maybe we should be watching these young ones with BOWL hair cuts 😀

              • OH, expect to hear about a manifesto from Roof. It’s out there and it seems it was the Trayvon Martin reaction that triggered this nut to kill. You’ll see and hear about it soon.

              • Dale A Albrecht says:

                Weren’t they called “Round heads” back in Charles I’s day. Brought in a pretty despotic puritanical religious government for years until the “Restoration”

        • Our usual way of orchestrating a coup involves death so you probably have a point. Allende and Diem were the way we usually go. That is not to say that we probably made it very clear that we would immediately recognize the new government. Will you accept “destabilize” instead?

          • Just A Citizen says:


            I will accept that we met with them and most likely pledged our support “if your successful”.

            That may or may not have been “de stabilizing” in and of itself, but it certainly would give “energy” to the opposition. It certainly destabilized our relationship with Russia. However, that was already headed south for some reason, and I don’t think it was Crimea. I think it was Putin getting in Mr. Obama’s way when he wanted Assad removed.

            As for destablizing by making promises, we did the same for the folks in Iraq and they got gassed. We made the same comments about a “revolution” in Iran, and they got slaughtered and imprisoned.

            Perhaps we can agree that given the prior discussions and understanding since Reagan, that we had NO BUSINESS involving ourselves at all in Ukrainian politics. We should have been meeting with Russia to see if we could help reduce the tension.

            When we get to anxious we destroy the chance to allow the other side to embarrass themselves. If we offer help to Russia and then Russia gets mixed up in Ukraine, the international narrative changes but we have our credibility in tact.

            Don’t take me out of context. I am saying the “evidence” does not support the rhetoric, today. It may very well be we were in it up to our eye balls. And those documents may come out some day. I don’t think any of us who are a little long in the tooth would be shocked.

            • Dale A Albrecht says:

              I truly believe our international policy is still locked into the destablization of Russia now and its predecessor the Soviet Union. Been that way big time since the late 70’s when Brezinski…national security advisor to Carter gained pre-eminace. He still is advising Obama. He hated Nixon and Kissinger because they sought “Detente”

  15. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Yeah…something on the order that he, Obama, after the election won’t have to worry about re-election and can do what he wants. Obviously via EO’s and regulations and bypass Congress because he’s frustrated.

  16. Just A Citizen says:

    The following comment is one I see all the time on “left” wing sites, like Daily Kos, Huff Po, etc. It is one that just drives me crazy, sometimes I actually feel a little angry over it, because the left is always claiming “intellectual superiority” over the right/conservatives. This person even added a little shot on that matter as well.

    “Still trying to figure out why Republicans want everyone to be able to have a gun instead of everyone having healthcare or education.

    By the way- math is hard for the GOP.”

    One person challenged this with a truly logical argument about the difference between Constitutional rights and those things we wish to have. The next comment was that this person “did not get the logic” of the first comment but this new person “I understand it”.

    This is not freakin logic……….. it is in fact a classic LOGICAL FALLACY.

    Who the hell teaches these people this crap and leads them to believe it is “logical” or even a fair argument? Buck, ya gotta help me on this one cause I just don’t get where this comes from.

    Do they just see it made by someone they think bright so they all repeat it? Or is this really the way they think?

    This is just one issue where the same fallacy is employed. You can find it anywhere.

    Don’t support expanding CHIP? Why do you want children to die!

    Your going to love this one as well. I saw a comment from a self proclaimed “Liberal” today who state flatly that the Second Amendment was “to protect the people from the Militia.” This person was absolutely convinced this statement is true. Just as those who think the right to bear arms was contingent upon the existence of a Militia.

    • I’m glad you noticed why I call them “parrotmonkeys” They just repeat what they hear, and throw poop at you if you don’t agree. I have stopped posting, for the most part on Lefty sites. I just determined that dealing with ignorant assholes was a waste of time.

  17. Just A Citizen says:

    Another pet peeve. I have listened to the media for two day, one lefty after the other claiming we “need common sense gun laws”, and that such laws would stop these crazy people from killing large numbers at a pop.

    Then they get all in a huff when you point out they want to “take the guns”. NO THEY SAY, you are misrepresenting my position. Horsepucky, I say. Given the number of laws on the books, and that everyone shooting has involved “breaking” existing laws, there is NOTHING short of confiscation that can have a meaningful impact. “YOUR MISREPRESENTING MY VIEW” they howl back.

    The only other thing I have heard proposed that might help reduce some gun violence is throwing those who use guns in a crime in PRISON for many, many years. But what does this actually stop…………… repeat offenders.

    And how is this going to work in the face of current pressure to reduce our prison population. Especially when the number of people thrown in prison for breaking gun laws happens to be a majority Black and/or Hispanic. What then??

    • I agree!

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      The last four to six mass killings all involved people who were on “medical” psych pharmacuticals. “Here take these and call me in 12 months”. The pill should be arsonic. Just like the solution the British slipped Napoleon. 35 years ago they would have been in Waterbury until provably safe to rejoin society. But NO, their civil rights…what about mine?.

    • Hi JAC…..it is real interesting how the left wants to get rid of things….Try setting up a Huffpo account using military jargon or rank as you “moniker”….They probably have my IP number blocked butIhavenot been able to get back on…even using three different computers and an I Pad.

    • There are so many factors that enter into “gun violence”. Sure, we have a history of gun ownership enshrined in our Constitution like no other country but we also have this diverse population like no other country. We have not taken the time for over 70 years to assimilate the new folks and give them time to sort out who they are. At the same time we have allowed the academics, intellectuals and members of the “soft” sciences to run rampant over the minorities in the country to “fix” things. I think that WE would all agree, they have really not done a good job. Being married to a teacher for 40 plus years, the analogy to the constant chronic need to “change” education and make it work is pretty valid. At least once or twice a decade the intelligentsia come up with a new and improved way to teach basics that have been successfully taught by rote since man started teaching with the same unsuccessful result. It always looks fine on paper when the paper has been carefully prepared and analyzed by the same folks pushing (and profiting) from the changes.

      Locking up the bad guys who violate Federal law has one great effect. It gets them off the street. Prosecuting gun runners who do not have a record as felons rather than allowing them to plead out guarantees that the next time, and there will be a next time, they get to go to jail.

      Almost every time you see a debate these days on TV over Ferguson or Baltimore or NY you hear the whining about how we have so many people locked up in the US. Nobody ever takes it to the next level and asks the “WHY” question. The mantra these days is that it is the Prison Industrial complex but they again fail to mention the diversity of the country, the family collapse, the lack of teaching of authority let alone respect for it . The failure to even mention the social compact which requires that we abide by authority at least to the extent of obeying the laws which protect us from each other. .

      I have no doubt that the professional troublemakers in Academia, the media and of course on the street will succeed to change the “get tough on crime and repeat offenders” statutes which have actually worked so well. Things will degenerate again which will (and already is) giving the left the opportunity to blame the inanimate object rather than the animate one behind the trigger.

  18. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Change of subject:
    “Ragu alla Bolognese”
    4 hours and 30 minutes approximately 5 servings
    1 (14 oz or 1/2 28 oz can) of whole peeled tomatoes preferably San Marzano (pureed)
    1.5-2.0 cups of hot water
    1 Tablespoon of tomato paste (double concentrate)
    1 Teaspoon of beef base or one bouillon cube
    1 celery stalk roughly chopped…I’d say 1/4 inch dice
    1/2 medium onion roughly chopped….1/4 inch dice
    1 medium carrot roughly chopped…1/4 inch dice
    3 Tbs butter
    2 ounces sweet italian sausage removed from casing
    2 ounces pancetta 1/4 inch dice
    3/4 lbs ground beef
    3/4 lbs ground pork
    1/2 lbs ground veal
    Fine sea salt
    Fresh ground pepper
    1 cup dry red wine
    1 bay leaf
    3/4 cup milk (not skim)
    freshly ground nutmeg

    Make tagliatella pasta…like fetticine
    Top it all with freshly grated Parmigliano-Reggiano

    Melt the butter over medium low heat. Add Celery, onion, carrot and sausage and pancetta. saute for 25 minutes breaking up the sausage….DO NOT brown.

    Increase heat to medium and add the beef, pork and veal. Constantly breaking up the meat and cook. Once cooked, cook an additional 10 minutes. DO NOT BROWN

    Add the wine and bring to a boil and reduce the liquid for 5 minutes.

    Add the tomato puree and paste and beef dase that had been dissolved in the hot water.

    Reduce heat and cook at a low simmer for 2.5 hours. Stirring occassionally.

    Add milk and cook and additional 30 minutes

    Add nutmeg and season with salt and pepper.

    Serve on the pasta with the cheese

    Bon Appetito, Bon Appertivo or Bon Pronzo,,,depending

    • Unfortunately, the wife has a terminal aversion to “tomatoes” if they resemble tomatoes. However this is intriguing. Perhaps I shall try it with the sons. In scouts we used to do some exotic things in the field. May take a shot. How many will it serve?

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        The recipe serves 5 very generously

        The tomatoes are pureed completely…think of them ultimately as a thick juice

        When done there is no evidence of any tomato in any form.

        The vegetables are completely broken down and invisible except the 1/4 inch diced carrots. I like dicing because it adds some color to a rather bland looking meat sauce. Not bland taste….the time spent is well worth the flavors…patience is a virtue

        Important step is to insure NO browning and to keep working the meat as it’s cooking with a wooden spoon until it is broken up into tiny fairly uniform pieces.

        Once it reaches the long 2.5 hour (low simmer) just stir occassionally (no cover on pot) you can add a little water so the ragu doesn’t get dried out. I find it’s not needed if you keep the simmer low.

        I like serving it with a crisp white wine. It is a nice counter point to a rich sauce. Last night I had Martin Codax a Spanish white.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        I always had the most sought after camp in scouts to eat at…you do not have to eat freeze dried Kraft mac and cheese…..It also helped that Mom taught us how to cook at a very early age.

        • One of our Dads was a bit of a chef. Best story was the dads were eating like kings, Buffalo steaks and all. The kids delegated one of their own as the food getter. He did not show up for the trip. They had 1 box of Ronzoni Elbow macaroni from ???? and a jar of Ragu. They cooked it, if you could call it cooking until it was semi soft then discovered they had no colander to drain. Fortunately they had four large pots. an awl can quickly turn one to a colander. All went to bed hungry that night staring at us adults enjoying our 10PM Kielbasa and Sauerkraut sandwiches on real rolls. Next morning Bob O’Neil (our cook) made us three different styles of eggs, flapjacks, real butter and real Maple syrup, bacon, ham and sausage. I think they were splitting a Hershey bar or milky Way. After we finished, O’Neil called them over and offered to feed them on one condition, next four meetings were on cooking! They took the bait. 22 years later my twins are excellent cooks. You would not be disappointed eating a meal at their house. Their wives cannot compete.

          You would also be happy to know that for the past two years Cooking is REQUIRED merit badge for Eagle. Guess there were too many poisonings.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            I think the cooking merit badge was my 1st badge. It was a knock-off. By the way grilled diamondback is quite good.

            Now do your kids get invited out to other people houses for dinner? Or is only that people will come to their places and never return the gesture.

  19. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Calling the Colonel

    Are the two prison escapee’s from NY trying to reach the 1.5 kilometer gun free zone at the southern border?

    • LOL….actually we are the only ones with the border like that….they will go to California…..there is no border.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        After enjoying some of my Bolognese and an excellant crisp white wine I went out for an espresso and cognac and dessert. A couple was having dinner at the next table. They had just returned from a tour of New England, but most importantly they were refugees from CA. His career was as city manager of several of the cities that I had known quite well. They thought it was shear insanity what is going on there and they retired and got the hell out. They were smiling so broadly I thought their faces would crack after escaping, moonbean etal…..even if a manager who is supposed to be non-political didn’t stand a chance against the politicians and enviro’s

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        You’d think with all the national drama with these two convicted murderers that escaped that they are akin to the spawn of satan and were mass murderers of the 1st order.

  20. Happy Father’s Day-As a daughter, I want you to know that you are appreciated and loved more than you know!

    • Thanking you kindly………….( picture removing my hat in a sweeping gesture of respect, taking your left hand with a kiss of friendship )……..

  21. FIVE FLAGS OVER TEXAS ?????…….Riiiiight….as if Texas is going to do that. A psuedo-local group ( a black one ) is advocating changing Texas history. The “Stars and Bars” flag that flew over Texas for a few years is apparently offensive to the psuedo-local black group….psuedo local means that this new black group, which hails from Chicago, has taken up temporary residence in Dallas…has advocated that the Stars and Bars, the Texas Confederate flag is offensive and reminds them of slavery. I am interested as to how the Texas Confederate Flag reminds these 30 year old deliquents of slavery but what the hell…everything offends them including the versions of the Texas State Flag that has the “Don’t Tread on Me” symbol. Anyway, they tried to instigate an issue in Austin…even our token liberal city of Austin laughed at them. They tried to capture the remnants of the State Legislature before adjournment for two years. ( Yes, Texas Legislature meets once ever two years and it works just fine )…and tried to get them to bar the flag and remove it from Texas Heritage…..can you imagine going to the amusement park of FIVE FLAGS OVER TEXAS?…..anyway, it was a very interesting conversation, I am told, because they went to the Mexican Caucus to enlist their help. They apparently approached the Mexican Caucus asking if they felt slighted because the American Flag is a symbol of oppression and that since it is the last flag to fly over Texas and all the other flags are to the left of it when it flies.

    Anyway, long story short..the Mexican Cuacus said, no, they are perfectly fine with the idea that their flag once flew over Texas….they said that they view Norte Mejico as a distinct part of Mexican Heritage as well as Texas Heritage and that they helped form the State of Texas. Spain, France, Mexico, the Repubic of Texas, Confederacy, and American Flag. The Mexican Caucus told the young black contingent that Norte Mejico were all Mexican citizens at one time and that they did not even like the rule of Antonio de Lopez de Santa Anna.. he was a tyrant and a dictator that squashed the rights of Mexican Citizens, and forbade free trade with the United States and the anglos that had moved to Norte Mejico led the way for independence and that once Texas had its independence from Mexico, all Mexican citizens were welcome….and are still here to this very day. THey went on to say that their relatives fought and died along side of the Tejanos.

    Anyway, they have not gotten anywhere with eliminating a flag of Texas…..and Texas even said that it went to the Supreme Court to fight for the right to add or remove the Confederate flag from its license plates…………and won. The Supreme Court ruled that Texas, as a State, had every right to decide its own issues. It was not what the confederate flag stood for but the State had too many different authorized license plates and it decided to remove several in order to save money. None of he Six Flags of Texas are going to be on the license plates except the Texas Flag…..and that included the American Flag which is not going to appear on the plates…….the only flag of the independence that has survived is the ” Come and Take It ” flag……citing that it is the stand that Texas is taking in view of the current political situation…. and is the TRUE flag of Independence.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Listening for years to all the racism remarks by the Blacks, I always shake my head when I see the license plate holders with “slave chains” Why keep enforcing an image that died 150 years ago. And on top of that voluntarily enlist in the NEW slavery of welfare and handouts and re-enforcing the do-gooders or slave masters message that the blacks can not possibly overcome any hardship that comes their way and need to be taken care of….Every other race or ethnic group has always advanced inspite of obstacles. Individuals may fail but not the majority of a group like the blacks….I am not a racist but I sure do get pissed off by the rhetoric and excuses…..Just look at the success of an entire continent of sub-sahara africa (sarcasm intended)…..it’s the most disfunctional place on earth and probably surpasses the M/E in that regard.

      All this racism rhetoric is just causing people to disengage, they’re tired of the constant drumbeat. The asians that came here were pretty put upon and in the 20’s specific immigration laws enacted against them. I do not hear any whining coming from them…they just hitch up their pants and get down to business and make sure their kids excel in school or what ever the want to do….the black leaders are whores, not race-pimps and instead of whining which has accomplished nothing but increased problems, their message should be “let’s prove these whities wrong”

      I believe the areas with the most problems are those that are “Tribal” in culture. We here in this country really tried to overcome that. ie the “melting pot” since the big civil rights push and each and everyone has to be identified by race, gender, ethnicity etc is driving this country to be “TRIBAL” less tolerant and inclusive.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        I forgot to mention…all together to many blacks are being bought and sold to the highest bidder. All for power and wealth of the political class now. Same concept as the traditional form of slavery over history. They just changed masters. In the antebellum south the plantation and slave owners were the political class.

  22. http://www.madinamerica.com/2015/02/stopping-ssri-antidepressants-can-cause-long-intense-withdrawal-problems/

    “Clinicians need to add SSRI to the list of drugs potentially inducing withdrawal symptoms upon discontinuation, together with benzodiazepines, barbiturates, and other psychotropic drugs,” they concluded. “The term ‘discontinuation syndrome’ that is currently used minimizes the potential vulnerabilities induced by SSRI and should be replaced by ‘withdrawal syndrome’.”

    My personal experience with SSRI withdrawal was not a pleasant one. Even after a two month taper I had symptoms that lasted over three months. Intense electric shock sensations through my head, also called ‘brain zaps’. Sudden and intense episodes of extreme rage. Also there was the vertigo and cloudy, disconnected feeling.

    The most troubling symptom was the rage. I am a pretty calm and laid-back type of person. Rarely get angry…so the extreme rage was very concerning. Even after explaining to the Dr. that these symptoms had not been present prior to starting the SSRI, he dismissed them as a relapse into depression.

    I don’t know if big pharma just didn’t know about possible withdrawal symptoms, or if they are just hiding or minimizing the symptoms.

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