Happy New Year!


An open thread for the holiday weekend.



  1. Back in October, we had an article about conspiracy theories concerning the election. This one comes to mind:

    My personal favorite: Obama declares Trump victory invalid, claiming the Russians hacked the vote. The purpose of all this is to create the narrative where a Trump victory can be declared invalid by Obama. Despite all the talk among democrats about how much they love and respect democracy, the simple truth is that they deeply hate it (and don’t trust it). There is almost no chance that Obama and the Clintons will voluntarily cede power to Donald Trump.

    It isn’t January 20th yet and the MSM narrative is a “hacked election” by the Russians….what’s next?

    • Nothing……nobody is listening to Obama any longer…..Clinton is gone…..Reid called it…..the far left has actually hijacked the Democratic Party far worse than the Tea Party did the right.

      Obama will continue to destroy whatever legacy he has left by making it hard on Trump….nothing more,,,nothing less……it is a 2020 move but there is no one to step in. The establishment is all over 70……

      Watch Bernie Sanders very closely……he has suddenly moved to center.

      • My limited experience with the Tea party folk was that they were sane and logical and in many cases had some business experience. The opposition lives in a cloud-coo-coo-land of their own!

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Not from my perpective…he and Elizabeth Warren will take the left further left making it even more “sinistre” using a Sicilian term for left……they’re acting like what have we got to lose.

      • They might be mummifying Bernie before 2020. No matter, a Leopard can’t change it’s spots.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Also Trumps election was invalid……only because HRC got more popular votes driven by some large metropolian cities. like NYC and LA

    • Just A Citizen says:

      What’s next?

      More football, national championships, football playoffs, shoveling snow, splitting firewood, insulating my barn/shop and oh, an Inauguration on Jan 20th.

      In between just a lot of hyperventilating in hopes of getting some lefty’s panties in a bunch.

      Want a real conspiracy theory? The Soros crowd is agitating in hopes of creating a wingnut that will start shooting. Kill two birds with one stone.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Yes important things……I just enjoyed one of the finest “Filet Mignon’s” I’ve ever had plus believe it or not a “Robert Mondovai” that was out of this world and certainly “not served before it’s time”

        What do you build in your shop? woodworking. cabinetry? Boats to fish the Snake?

        • Just A Citizen says:


          Shop isn’t done yet so not set up. But I am in process of putting a new bottom on a wood Drift Boat for fishing this spring (Snake, Coeur d’Alene, Madison, Clearwater, and Bitterroot). Then on to some small projects before launching on cabinets for new laundry room next summer and maybe a desk and table for my den/office.

          Have a backlog of old furniture and the doors in my house to refinish as well.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            Cool man. I’ve got a backlog of antique furniture back to the late 1700’s. Finished a hidden mantle waiting to be installed from the mid 1700’s. Discovered some doors and have restored them from when the town was “New Berne” and signed by the original woodworker. A few months away from finishing the restoration of a 1947 “Old Town” Sailing Canoe. A couple ribs left to fix. Working on an 1843 house, Working on a modern marble mosaic coffee table for a friend…life is good

            I found a bed in an antique flea market….fully restored it and has been dated to the late 1700’s -early 1800’s. Set up a room for it and it;s my favorite place to crash

            Problem is there are to many old people around and estate sales. People know they just check the obituraries and you can furnish a historical home for < 10K

            "Things are worth only what people are willing to pay for them" so do it for the pleasure and ask for nothing more.

            Drift boating on the Snake. Totally awesome,

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            My neighbor is letting me set up tools and what is left of my woodworking shop in their carriage house. They have three houses on the property and they do not want to keep hiring workers. The owners Father worked at Williamsburg VA for decades so the son learned the skills for woodworking. They needed to get the B&B up and running quickly.

            Father retired from the Coast Guard and then worked in the WH communications office. He totally retired after encountering HRC and they were required to face the wall as she passed.

  2. Can you say, “civil war”?

    • That would be the likely outcome. Obama won’t go that far….unless WW3 breaks out. I don’t remember an outgoing President ever acting like this.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        As for the controversy about the two national monuments, one is where the Bundy Ranch stand-off was, That got exposed early in the stand-off for what it was and the Government was not concerned about the land but wanting to use it for another purpose and that was a “green energy” project owned by the Chinese. No way could they do anything but “preserve” it as a monument…..as for the “Four Corners” area, I for one would like to see the power plants GONE in that area. Maybe they did get shut down or cleaned up as other facilities were, but the last time I did go through there the smoke spewing out from them was terrible. But I do wonder what impact the loss of revenue to the native american nations, by banning the mining, drilling and power generation have.

  3. Now I wonder, once he leaves office, just how much “approval” Obama retains. It has been my contention for some time now that his alleged “popularity” is mostly because of a ridiculous fear that if you answer a polling question with NO, you will be tainted with the racist label. How much of that will he still keep.

    I think and I hope that his approval is pretty much based on the same BS that you get when you ask about the most admired woman in America and it always turns up whoever the current first lady is. No matter how badly Bush 2 slipped, Laura always won the poll.

  4. Dale A Albrecht says:


    When I lived in Maine and the environmentalists were attempting to close the nuclear power plant in Wiscasset (now closed) the proposal was we can burn wood for heat, we do not need all the power generated at Wiscasset……I’d like to see what they would say now?

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Let’s see, Wiscasset closed causing a severe unemployment problem in the area and also no matter what the town council tries to come up with, like bio-fuel generation the environmentalist still keep blocking the actions in federal court. The renewable energy from wind is much more expensive, plus very unsightly. The paper mills are being shut down left and right causing more unemployment. Illegal to make pickled herring anymore but the same product can be imported from Canada, dams are being taken out, causing many issues, like flood control, lost recreational uses, pollution from sediment destroying fishing downstream. Timbering is being shut down due to eco terrorist driving nails into the trees….happened in VT big time

      Maine used to be a very independent state where everyone was a jack of all trades throughout the year. The government seems to be taking away all the means to be able to survive on your own….The State has since completely flipped, to a democratic state even through for years the had Collins and Snow as senators they were very liberal republicans in name only. A current senator is Angus King is extremely liberal. Taxes are off scale.

  5. On his way out the door, Barack Obama is doing all he can to initiate WWIII. Luckily, and sadly, the world pays Obama no mind, because the world has absolutely zero respect for him.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin’s response to Obama’s latest tantrum in expelling 35 Russian diplomats and approving new sanctions on Russia was somewhat predictable. Obama sought to provoke Russia and it was clear that in response, the savvy Putin would not take the bait. Rather, Putin once again, upstaged this pathetic amateur.

    The Russian president’s latest response sums up the grotesque (yet deserved) lack of respect his country has had for the American president since day one.

    Putin said that Moscow will not expel anyone in response to the U.S. administration’s latest taunt and that while Russia reserves the right to retaliate, “we will not sink to the level of this irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy.'”

    Best of all, Putin then invited the children of U.S. diplomats based in Russia to celebrate New Year’s at the Kremlin:

    “We will not forbid families and children from spending the New Year’s holidays at the places they are used to. Moreover, I invite the children of all American diplomats with accreditation in Russia to New Year’s and Christmas festivities in the Kremlin.”

    Obama is a joke.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:


      I just loved how Obama says that “I can not release any details on the hacking because of national secuity concerns”

      Obama is no joke that can just be laughed off. It will take some very serious damage repairs and control to undo what he has wrought upon this nation.

      • Obama is lying again. Neither hack occurred on Federal servers. One (DNC) wasn’t even a hack, it was a leak. They have zero credibility. They being any Liberal politician, Liberal journalist, or Liberal pundit.

        As far as I’m concerned, every Democrat controlled part of the country can rot in the cesspool that they elect.

        On a different note, since Liberal’s are so pro immigration and so pro Muslim, let’s see if they are willing to give up New Jersey to them (Muslim Immigrants). It’s only fair 😀

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          But but. Gman the MSM says and Obama says…..The lies keep coming. the DNC bit was Podesta being an idiot and opening emails allowing phishing to occur. And obviously the Hillary thing, was a rogue server operating outside of the law while conducting government business…..where is the outrage by Obama against HRC for putting him in this position of accusing a major world power of wrongdoing…..Heck our Supreme Court has ruled that email is not the mail which protected by the constitution.

          I thought this was an interesting comment by a celebrity chef from NYC

          “Bourdain, who is a New York City native and an outspoken critic of the president-elect, said he thinks “the rise of authoritarianism” is a “global trend and one that should be of concern to everyone.” Still, he argued, the belittling or dismissive attitudes of his peers toward Trump’s supporters is counterproductive”.

          Doesnt he have it ass-ackwards, what we are seeing today is a rejection of authoritarianism, which is being pushed by the liberal socialist left.

        • Watch that NJ crap!

  6. Full Putin Statement below, via the Kremlin events page:

    We regard the recent unfriendly steps taken by the outgoing US administration as provocative and aimed at further weakening the Russia-US relationship. This runs contrary to the fundamental interests of both the Russian and American people. Considering the global security responsibilities of Russia and the United States, this is also damaging to international relations as a whole.

    As it proceeds from international practice, Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.

    The diplomats who are returning to Russia will spend the New Year’s holidays with their families and friends. We will not create any problems for US diplomats. We will not expel anyone. We will not prevent their families and children from using their traditional leisure sites during the New Year’s holidays. Moreover, I invite all children of US diplomats accredited in Russia to the New Year and Christmas children’s parties in the Kremlin.

    It is regrettable that the Obama Administration is ending its term in this manner. Nevertheless, I offer my New Year greetings to President Obama and his family.

    My season’s greetings also to President-elect Donald Trump and the American people.

    I wish all of you happiness and prosperity.

    Putin has destroyed Obama AGAIN! Obama is an embarrassment to the Office of the President. It will be nice to have an adult in charge again 😀

  7. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Colonel sir…..as a self described military genius (?) can you please put some sanity behind what Obama’s strategy was in Syria?. Assad was a cool guy and progressive leader according to HRC’s early visits. Then he becomes the enemy. He sides with the “rebels” such as they were and under another guise ISIS, which no matter who we armed the weapons found their way to ISIS. We invited Russia in then that went sour as they proceeded to go after the more dangerous party on the block which was the rebel and ISIS we supported. Iran is allegedly on Assads side which I totally do not get because Syria is mostly Sunni or Christian etc…amd blood enemies of the Shiite. Besides Khomeni back in ’79 was going to invade Syria to get at Israel. We free up and finance Iran who has basically won the proxy war in Yemen subjecting the straits there to missile fire, this latest debacle in the UN…..the only thing I see the Obama strategy was to enable any force to be able to have direct contact with Israel in order to destroy that country, as though that will bring peace and hosanas worldwide if this tiny sliver of earth changed hands……now I hope upon hope that Russia does not do a bunk like we do and abandon Assad to the Iranians.

    • Pardon me while I go look for this military genius…..in the meantime….

      I wish I could help you on Obama;s strategy. The issue with Syria is two fold. Syria is 65% Sunni….Iran, as you pointed out is Shiite. The Sunni’s and Israel actually get along fairly well, given the circumstances. Obama wants to destabilze the Sunnis in favor of Iran…( over throw Assad )….THat makes Israel and Syria odd bedfellows against the formidable power of Iran. ( You know the saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend ) Like the Egyptians, the Syrians give tacit approval to Israel all the while knowing that the USA will back Israel. Despite all the bull shit, Syria does not support Hamas nor the Palestinians who have the backing if Iran.

      Obama is in bed with the Iranians..anything else? Remember that Iran wishes to be the 12th Imam….Russia does not trust Iran very much and will tacitly back the Sunnis….sort of a check and balance.

      I do not think that the rebuke of Israel in the UN was intended for anything except to make Trump have a problem on his hands….one which they ( democrats ) hope will lead to 2020 elections.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Sir…I had just about completed a long response to your reply to me…..I will learn to write offline and then cut and paste the document into SUFA…..the system hung up and there was no way to recover nor move forward or back.

        I continually think about the 30’s and Europe’s appeasement of Hitler etc. Of course everyone was afraid of a WWI repeat but what was accomplished 100M dead.

        I reread all the time a diary of an old family friend. She and her husband recognized the evil that the Nazi’s exuded and they escaped with their lives barely. Those of the family that denied the very words Hitler and Himmler and Goebbels etal were saying, by excusing them saying NOBODY can be that evil…..those that STAYED DIED in the camps and live only as long as their usefulness to the Reich existed. One I know who stayed did live, but he was a scientist and was taken to the USSR and only was allowed to leave there AFTER 1991 and it’s collapse..

        I will rewrite what I wrote earlier and post it

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          That is unless you want to send me an email so I can get your address again. Lost my directory a while ago and yours and others were lost. We can stay off line until a rational idea can be published……..so much is being done with proxies by the Saudi’s (wahabi) and Iranians (shiite) they are both not our allies in any way shape form or manner.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Colonel ……OK….different topic about the BS.

        I just went out to dinner to my favorite restaurant and one of the waitresses was seriously in a bad mood. Granted by rules they are NOT supposed to discuss personal issues with us “customers”, but her issue was by dragging it out of her was that she and her boyfriend booked a cruise to the Bahamas from Florida…..as the crow flies not to far. Disney cruises on top of that….the son/child is 6 years old and noe requires his own passport and can not travel under his Mother’s passport. State says that with all the holidays and mail delivery we can not possibly deliver a passport to this child by the 9th of January…..the snowball effect has been enormous, canceled flights etal…..can you see a way that this child can get his vacation wit his parents and THEY are ALL US Citizens, forever……I suggested they claim refugee status, heck the son lives in NY doesn’t that count if you want to get out of a repressive regime? ……can you help….I’m contacting Senator Burr and also Senator Schumer.

        • You can get a passport same day – need to make an appointment at a regional facility and pay an additional fee…

          For a child I’d assume both parents would need to be present, though may be able to provide an affidavit from one. Would need to call to find out the exact requirements.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            Yes I personally know that, or should I say knew that…but the waitress was so frustrated and then the cancellations without losses,,,,FYI her sister works for Trump in NY…any connection?

            • Maybe the Fed’s are worried the kid won’t come back? As much as the Liberal Left wants open borders, I’m surprised they haven’t tried to eliminate Pass Ports. Or….maybe those open borders only only for future Liberal voters after all.

            • No……no one cares about Trump on passports. You can do it….pretty easily.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            The Father is in Buffalo, NY as is the child. the Grandmother was paying for the trip for her Grand-son…complicated. but totally not unsurrountable and they’ve been all been given BS from all ends….Sheez when I lived in Raleigh 2 hours away from where I know live I walked into the Senators office and got what i wanted in 24 hours.

            See you do continiue to read our stuff here in spite of your self proclaimed vacation.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            Buck…you have traveled a lot as have I…..my email is dale _albrecht @suddenlink.net
            I hate when people get angry and say they have done everything but also won’t listen to what I know can be done as you said 24 hours….the Post Office has nothing to do with this…. her sister works for Trump????

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            A friend and I are planning a trip to Italy or some such place in ’18 when she gets back from the Persian Gulf. We were planning on a minimum of 1 month touring. Sort of Free grazing type vacation. I contacted an old friewnd from Italy and she said avoid this city and that city they are seriously not places to visit, She said stay in the country and small villages. This is all because of the refugee/migrant problems, I’ve since thought a driving trip from Vienna and Austria, through the Alps, touching the Lake region of Italy, all of Switzerland bits of southern Germany along the Alps. The best air fares seem to be 1) into Istanbul then into Vienna, the return trip has almost a full day layover in Istanbul. I always wanted to go there, 2) is through Copenhagen with SAS….opinions? Never been to Denmark either,

            • Denmark…….very pretty, especially Copenhagen…..be very careful and know how to calculate currency…

              Be prepared for being on the street…a lot of beggars on secondary streets and shops…

              • Dale A Albrecht says:

                I always found different currencies fun and actually easy to deal with. It would blow me away that tourists so many times just hold out a wad of money to the bar tender or vendor and expect them to handle it and “count/take” the correct amount…..I’m also not just talking about Americans, but Europeans before the Euro took over and while some countries were still accepting both during a phase out period.

                The part I hated was the gouging by the “official” currency exchange banks when converting…..you got much better rates on the street, just don’t get caught.

                The beggars on the street was that in reference to Istanbul or the utopian Copenhagen?

        • Go to any regional passport office….you need supporting documentation that says you need a passport for a child….a plane ticket….anything……..pay a small fee and you can get your passport in one day.

          A passport was just recently required to go to the Caymans for my grand daughters, age 8 and 11. It took a whole day, but we got them. They will process it immediately….$25 each for expedited service….however, you need some supporting documents to prove you need one quickly.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            I was planning on taking the information to the waitress today. There is also a comprehensive passport help site……but the way the lady was acting last night I just might let her and her family sort it out…the info is out there and can be done if they really want to do it…..hell she’s a liberal NY’r and can’t stand the fact her sister works for Trump…and this is not just since he started running for president this time.

            The catch seems that BOTH parents have to be there and maybe the ex does not want his son going out of country and is not a willing participant…who knows….the lady always seems to have a perpetual chip on her shoulder..

            • Well, the custody papers probably have a pretty good restiction in them.

              • Dale A Albrecht says:

                Decided to just stay clear of it….It’s not my problem. It probably has nothing to do with the State Dept because the procedures are clear……As I think about it, it’s more than likely a personal beef between ex-spouses.

  8. Dale A Albrecht says:

    On Aug. 8, 2014, a pair of F-18s from the Bush launched the first airstrikes against ISIS in northern Iraq…….Big friggin whoop dee do. How long had ISIS been operating? I believe just a tad longer than 1.5 years ago, (sarc)


    It’s still all the Republican fault as is the troubles with the USS Ford which had it’s keel laid in 2009. Major breakdowns in the ability to launch aircraft with failures of the system every 400 launches where the old systems have one every 4100. And the Arresting gear is totally non functional, but the plan is to revert back to the old……If I’d guess right all this is as a result of build as you design in an attempt to reduce the build cycle, but mostly because of the F-35 which can not withstand the stress of normal launching and landings especially with any weapons load.

    Our tax dollars being carefully spent.

    I like Obama’s admonishment of Trump saying that he must leave the Inspector General’s independent to do their job…..again with the projection…he has ignored inspector generals continually through his administration and most notably with HRC’s illegal server.

  9. Dale A Albrecht says:


    I just loved the mealy mouth opinions by the author, though HRC turned over 55K records and did not turn over 30K claiming the were personal concerning her daughters wedding and condolences etc and then prove comes out that most of the 30K wrere State Business and had classified information in abundance….much less the 650K found on EX congressmen pervert Wiener’s laptop, who in no way had any reason to be near State Dept business…oh Huma and Wiener (shared) how touching.

    This email thing is NOT over by a long shot…but are we a nation of laws or what?

  10. SK: Found this in the trash and didn’t see the original so I posted it. Hope that was your intent. JAC

    The curse of thinking strikes again.

    Now I know why many right of center folks still don’t trust Russia. Old habits die very hard but I have to ponder the reasons the lefties are suddenly so hostile and anti-Russia. I mean, these were the guys who made up excuses for Stalin for God’s sake, never met a commie they wouldn’t bow and scrape for.

    Then it came to me. As any good Muslim will tell you, the only fitting punishment for leaving the faith is death. So, our true believers could care less that many of the current Russian leaders were Communists. They left! They are apostates! The false God of Communism failed but that does not mean our local reds have given up the religion. They still believe as strongly as ever (look at the canonization of Fidel) and as the faithful, still defending their equivalent of Baal, they would like to see their former brethren dead and the faith purified. If it takes a nuclear war to accomplish that, so what?

    In the scheme of things the former reds, fellow travelers, dupes or whatever are in fact much more dangerous than those troglodytes still stuck in the Mideast thinking it is the 7th Century. Those idiots can kill by the hundreds or by the thousands. These idiots can kill millions.

  11. Dale A Albrecht says:

    “We have a good idea how the 49ers players feel about Kaepernick now. They voted him the winner of the team’s most prestigious award’.

    This makes total sense with a team that is 2 W and 13 L on the season and from SF none the less. Do they really think they will get their bonuses with such a piss poor performance and ticket purchase…this is a business for heaven’s sake. But then the top team in the conference has less wins than the wild card of the team Giants…..social justice be damned.

    It’s a been long day since Joe Montana and Coach Walsh

  12. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I know us here on SUFA are totally non serious…..I just watched a fun movie that I had been seeing forever advertised on YouTube…”Revenge of the Bridesmaids” TV movie and I laughed most of the way through it…..weddings. hah. elope it really was a good comedy

  13. Dale A Albrecht says:

    “The Russians are coming, The Russians are coming” A Vermont utility company has discovered code/malware identified from a Russian source. WTF. VT the most socialist State in the US worried about another former socialist State. They shoud be allies.

    Honestly when the US deliberately spent the USSR into a collapse isn’t this just retribution? Costing nothing but a few keystrokes
    We are spending Trillions on cyber security that seem to be money pissed down a rat hole because the stupid russian. chinese north koreas seem to break in at will.

    It took Yahoo two years to reveal they had a theft of their customers data and another year to reveal 1B stolen ID;s. This only was released after the Obama administration made a big deal of Russia. Secret for two years…i’m trying to find a way to divorce myself from that service

    • We have teenagers getting in trouble for hacking, yet nobody seems to think that Russian teens are capable, because it must be the Russian government, after all. Sure seems like there is a lot of disconnect with reality on the issue. Secondly, Podesta’s emails were NEVER hacked. The idiots gave someone the password. Hacking is going in through the back door, not being led through the front door.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      The continual demeaning of the Republicans/deplorable and treating anyone that disagrees with the liberal/progressive left as a joke……just look at the loses from the bottom up. tells the story of the consequenses of such arrogance.

  14. The Liberal media continued lack of credibility continues:

    Soon after publication of the Post’s story, it was revealed that the malware had only infected a utility company laptop that had no access whatsoever to the electrical grid…


    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      i am far more inclined to believe the whole media and government campaign is to enact laws and gain MORE control of the “uncontrollable” free media ie the internet….new bill passed by Obama setting up a truth panel…..who sent it to him for his signature? Three guesses and the first two do not count.

      My case rests on the fact that “Yahoo” never said one word that they had two hacks stealing the personal information of over 1B customers in one and about 1/2 that in another, and these occured 2 years ago…..how convienient that they suddenly come clean in September.

      My bet all in all is that unlike Obama who had solid support from his party and a weak kneed opposition even when they were the majority…..Trump will not have the support of either the Democrats ( a given) nor his party the Republicans. (because he is not one of them) The overall relationship between the Democrats and Republican ruling elite can best be described as an incestuous relationship with the only difference being who is going to be on top tonight.

      Just looking through the video clips the most notible point is that NONE of the politicians can speak. They all have a distracting hand mannerism. Back in the early days of this republic we had orators. They had to speak clearly and distinctly and make their case. today it’s 10 second sound bites….not only can they not speak but they did not write the speech to begin with, they’re just talking heads. Tele-prompter fails and they are lost.

  15. I hope everybody survived last night……Good Morning to all and Happy New Year…..

    Let’s hope that some of the remaining football games are entertaining….the last several were not. I still submit that there are a lot better teams out there that deserve a shot at the playoffs than the ones that were in it.

    Oh well,,,,,Have a great day everyone…..19 days and counting.

    • Ditto, Colonel. Ohio State laid an egg. I wasn’t very impressed with them this year as it was. Be rooting for Clemson now. Not a Saban fan at all.

  16. Dale…..Beggars in the street…..Copenhagen. I have not been there in 12 years but they were prolific when I was there.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Sir….I quess the socialist ideal is the elite stay where they are, on top, and everyone else is identically poor.

      Been tossing around the vacation and I decided to just stay in the good ole USA. Thinking of getting to Santa Fe then meander my way up to Glacier NP. It has been ages since I’ve been in the area and it deserves a visit. Sort of zig zag a while to start then mid way up CO start straightening out. Obviously hitting the parks and monuments,

  17. Dale A Albrecht says:


    Has there been anyone as this POTUS and two SOS’s with Clinton and Kerry wrecked more havoc on international affairs than that team.

  18. Dale A Albrecht says:


    With this quality output from our schools of higher “learning” sarc, will this be the end of the United States within the next 20 years as the last of the post WWII generation goes to our reward?

    No wonder business has moved offshore and companies that remain are starting to seriously look to rehire older workers that had been put out to pasture early. They’re finding the new grads are totally unprepared for the workplace.

    I said a long time ago that defeating the Japanese in business was easy. They all thought alike. We’re easy to defeat today, because we DO NOT THINK at all.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:


      Obviously Mr Will wrote this piece before California decriminalized “child” prostitution, those plying the trade < 18.

      2016 has been such a year of absurdities….can 2017 be any worse or maybe the tide has at least at ebb.

      Happy New Year everyone.

    • We had some college interns work with us for a while. These are Jr.s and Sr.s in mechanical engineering. They would be assigned to build some tool or fixture that we needed on the manufacturing floor. To watch them handle tools and see the cobbled together products they built was scary. When we were young we had all kinds of hobbies that included building things. In the process, we learned valuable skills. The kids today have done nothing but play on keyboards and joysticks. Show them a 2d drawing and they can not visualize the finished part. They need a 3d representation. These are the engineers of the future. They do not know how to conceive of a product in their heads and make it happen. Most of the products they design are Rube Goldberg’s, overly complex and difficult to build. Simplicity is a lost art.

      • The young ROTC officers coming out of college cannot visualize anything. They are trained on technology and have no deductive reasoning. If the computer screen does not say it….it does not work. They do not know the difference between true north, magnetic north, or grid north. They have no concept of how to apply negative or positive declinations. They do not know where the North Star is nor how to follow it and they do not know how the celestial navigation shifts depending on which hemisphere you are located…..much less knowing how to navigate by the stars or the sun. Most do not know on which side of trees moss grows on….or how to make a compass with a needle and a puddle of water. Unless a pizza can be ordered and flown in, they do not know how or what to eat off the land. They do not know the difference between a wild onion or the poisonous tops of a fern….much less ehich mushrooms you can eat.

        Technology is great and should be used only as a tool…like a hammer or a pair of pliers. Technology is not absolute.

        AARRRGGGHHH!!!! Makes me want to bite nails…..which is probably what they would consider a source of iron.

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          I asked my friend who just got her master mariners ticket….do they teach navigation at it’s most basic levels…she said yes. It was resurrected though after the powers decided it was a bad idea using only GPS. As an exercise after the Army Navy game in Baltimore, they came back at night in a storm off of Cape Hattaras using D/R only.

          I still have an old book that I still refer to “Survival in Syle” I used it religiously back in the 60’s when out in the wild. Does anyone also remember “Euell Gibbon’s” All about edible things found out in the wild. Always could find some pretty good eats. Rattlesnake isn’t to bad…..But Andrew Zimmern I am not anymore.

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          Especially the fresh mushrooms living on those “chips” out in the fields. The pictures of the bread lines in the 30’s were in the cities. The countryside survived just was fine…no cash but food was home grown not store bought.

          The exception was the despiration from the natural disaster called the dust bowl…..and mechanical replacement of tenent farmers “Grapes of Wrath” as an example

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        T-Ray….this is not something new, but just accelerating to just sheer idiocy. My Father related a story from the early 50’s concerning a tool needed on the manufacturing line. Understand that many of the “engineers” grew up in the depression and had to make do or perish. They went through WWII, where everybody could fix anything mechanical because everybody had a jalopy. Then after the war got “educated”…he always espoused the concept of KISS “keep it simple stupid”. Anyway a tool was needed and the design task was given to lab, where all the fuzzy thinkers lived” great minds but usually totally impractical. The engineers on the floor put together what they needed from some basic hardware store purchases. It did the job. A year later labs proudly unveiled their tool which did the same job that $30 of stuff from the store did.

        I saw this throughout my career. Labs had a concept that allegedly worked and was the god’s gift to us meer mortals. It was us mortals that actually would redesign and actually build the part……Labs would scratch their heads frustrated “why is this not working” I’d ask did you even put your eyes on the failed product? They just looked at data. Most of the time I’d find the issue within minutes and not longer than a few hours.

        But then shop classes are only for dumb kids, and the community colleges are finally putting practical things like plumbing, masonry and carpentry back into their programs.

  19. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Well…..Koln Germany did not have a repeat of the hundreds of rapes and assults from last New Year’s festivities. However the police are being accused of racial profiling….. duh, do you think? Given that most of the assults were perpetrated by people from African or middle eastern decent

  20. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I think the quarterback question has been settled in Dallas. Romo plays and they lose against the weakest team in their division…..I know he hasn’t played and is rusty and they didn’t really need to try hard having home field and the division won…..but…”winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”

    • No Sir……Dak played two series…..three points…..Romo played one series….touchdown…….Sanchez played three quarters……three interceptions….three points.

      In addition, starting running back was out…..two of the starting offensive linemen were out….Lee, the leading tackler in the NFL was out…….two of our starting safeties were out…..

      Expected loss…..Sanchez is mainly a practice squad quarterback…he is terrible.

      • We shall now see if Dallas, with a bye, can win. They are favored to win it all. They will have all their guns back for first playoff…..Romo looked very good.

        • But DAK has the flexibility and can run….Romo is a pocket quarterback….no mobility.

        • The NFC has the best over all team strength. I see some shootouts heading into the Super Bowl. The weakest team may be the Lions. In the AFC, It should come down to the Patriots and Chiefs. I see, as of today’s games, as Oakland being the weakest team. The Texans and Dolphins don’t have a chance, although Miami might shock Pittsburgh.

          Early predictions for the SB…….Kansas City vs. Atlanta

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            Dude….you must be on something? Giants and Patriots for their third SB with Giants winning in the last minutes….Make a perfect trifacta

            • That would be fun, but the Giants have a different coach. I’m curious to see what the Packers can do on the road tonight.

            • And Trump will not be President……Cowboys….all the way

              • Giants will not get past the Packers at Lambeau Field in zero wx.

              • Dale A Albrecht says:

                Climate change will come to the Giants rescue…..those sure were some games back in the early days with Dallas and Green Bay. No need for a color TV, B/W was all you needed with all the snow and ice.

                They need to be able to move the venue instantly if weather will be a factor…I’m kidding… I truly miss the muddy fields, torn up sod, snow and ice….that’s football.

  21. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I would have liked to have known Mayor Ed Koch…..a resurrected quote……

    “The People have spoken….now you will be punished”

    Obama had no expectancy of not having a sympathetic successor to his eight years in office. Hence all these last minute, thousands of regulations being put in place by the unelected administrators, foreign policy actions that regardless of Kerry’s excuses will lead to more strife and conflict….as Abbas said now…we’ll see you in The Hague, they have everything on their side and have toc oncede nothing…….HRC would have dribbed and drabbeda llt hese regulations and policies over time and they wouldha vea ppeared to be painless and largely un-noticed…..however with Trump’s win they have to act fast and it is not going unseen.

    I just love the ongoing conventional wisdom and daily headlines, that the 2016 election was hacked……the election on Nov 8th in no way shape or form or manner was hacked. What has been found though was fraud in Democrat controlled cities and the recounts stopped…..The DNC was not hacked by definition, but information that showed the Clinton campaign and the DNC corrupted the primary against Sanders was proven by Podesta’s own stupidity……HRC’s emails from her private “Illegal” server was entered years ago, long before she decided to run. Every one of our own intelligence agencies had her emails including god knows who else….but people who should know about technology just keep lapping up the progaganda.

    McCain is running around making commitments with no authority…..in issues with the ME Schumer will be a better ally than any of the R’s leadership.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      My “space” bar is lagging. The sequence of the letters is correct but spaces are lagging and being put in the incorrect place…..must be crumbs and the keyboard needs cleaning.

      Eastern Carolina encryption

  22. Dale A Albrecht says:
  23. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I may be guilty of disremembering…..but didn’t HRC and the government over the past two years assure us, the people, that her illegal and unsanctioned server was secure and NEVER hacked?…if it was never hacked as we were assured by the powers in charge, who then did indeed snag the information?…my bet is our own services and is NOT considered a hack because it is LEGAL under own own national defense laws. Dating back to the late 40’s

    • It is not even remotely likely that any US government hacks will be officially revealed. My guess is that they are responsible for the Podesta stuff. Can’t believe anything coming out of DC or the MSM anymore…..NOTHING!

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Remember how upset the Senate specifically Sen Diane Feinstein was when it was revealed that the NSA was reading and gathering their emails and phone calls….how easy was it then to get at HRC’s and it didn’t even have the cover of secure government communications.

        It was so damn obvious when Congress started demanding all the State Dept’s communications from the Benghazi and Libyia debacle and there was NOTHING but empty airspace, that had to raise a red flag that HRC and Obama had a side communication set up to avoid Congressional oversight and the FOI act.

  24. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Spokane police said businesses are allowed to refuse service to people for as long as they see fit.


    I’m not going to even get into the guys motives….but the quote from the police is precious.

    • But if he is gay and asks for a wedding cake, they must serve him.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        The hypocrisy

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          As I’ve stated before….before I left IBM in ’94, coincidently in VT, they had rules in place that if you asked some lady out, even if she was single, she didn’t have to even say no thank you, I’m not interested….all she had to do was pick up the phone to HR and your job was over, it was considered harrassment …..talk about putting an absolute cone of silence over the workplace.

    • Did he break the law? Who cares?

      Did he do something wrong, violate or harass anyone? No, he invited a girl to dinner.

      Is he a creep? No, he is a man, and she is a girl entering her prime.

      What he did was have a lapse in judgment. The ‘overreaction’ demonstrates she’s obviously not mature enough to handle being asked to dinner. A good example of why not to pursue young ‘women’.

      What I find interesting, is how modern society has placed a standard antithetical to human nature and thousands and thousands of years of history whereby men have always preferred younger women with more vitality, while young women prefer mature stable men. It is not uncommon for a teenage girl to desire a man.

      Modern society calls it creepy or sick or whatever, but take a physically mature pretty 16 year old, dress her up in something classy and tight, then parade her through a shopping mall or something. Take note of how man men will take notice, as well as their ages. Do the same with a young man, watch the women do the same. Likewise, parade an attractive 30 something woman in front of a bunch of teenage males, as well as parade a man-hunk in front of teenage girls.

      People are calling human biology creepy. …odd.

      To be clear, I think 16-37 is a bit of a stretch. They are simply at different stages in their lives, so much so that trying to have a serious relationship would be difficult or nearly impossible. Rarely do they actually work out in the long term.

      Wait ’till they’re in their twenties, dude. It will likely be a much more rewarding experience, and without ‘Lolita’ issues.

      • Reading up on Human Nature I see 🙂 Well done 😉

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          The last “May to December” Civil War widow died in 2004.

        • I have done a bit of reading on human nature, but I make those points more so through many years of observation.

          People value a young physically mature healthy body with vitality.

          One example;

          There is a family in my community whom I know through social circles. Both parents are good looking regular folks. Mom is middle aged (about 50) and has a very nice body in spite of having children and aging. The daughter (now in her twenties) has had a smoking hot perfect woman body since she was 15 years old, one of those !OMG! physiques. And it is no mystery where she got it from when comparing her to her mother.

          Over the years, I have had many opportunities to observe the way men respond to her presence. Since she was 15 years old, without fail, EVERY man(from 20’s to 60’s) with a clear line of sight, studies her body. You can’t help but to look.

          Why? Because she’s frigging gorgeous. It is that simple. While I don’t think most are thinking about actually trying to get up in her, ALL indeed admire her beauty. It’s not sick or creepy, it is simply men admiring beauty.

          It is kind of funny. On a few occasions, us men would be standing in the garage doing the Hank Hill and friends thing, drinking a couple beers, just hanging out being men. …and along comes little miss 16 year old perfect body with a baby face walking past. What is interesting is watching the conversation lose focus until she passes.

          No one says anything about, or very little, but all are looking.

          I remember there was this one day when I was working on their house. She was about 17 or 18. I was crouching next to the kitchen table digging into my tool bag. She bent over me to grab something off of the table. When she did, the plumbers there noticed. And as she walked off, being able to observe without her noticing, they did.

          She walked off and both of them starting eyeballing her. The older white haired one got a brief glimpse, but stopped because he realized I was looking at his eyes. Meanwhile the 30 something was staring and drooling, then looked up and realized I was making eye contact with him. I looked back and forth between the two, making eye contact with a cold blank stare as if I were saying to them, PERVERT!

          They felt awkward. As I walked off at an angle that they couldn’t see my face, I started smiling, trying not to laugh. I already knew what to expect from them and was just fuking with them a little.

          But the point I am making is that men will look at anything that looks good and mature enough, or not too old. It is very natural and normal to do so. It doesn’t mean we are going to try to fuk them. It doesn’t mean we’re perverted or sick. It means we are men who admire the female form. I think this is true with most men. It’s simply nature.

          • Looking is a wonderful way to pass the time, but sometimes acting upon those desires have consequences. Human behavior doesn’t always play out in a moral way. See the Muslim’s in Europe, where Sweden is now the rape capital of the world. Human nature isn’t always polite and peaceful, something folks seem to either forget or ignore.

            But as far as young women, the phrase….”she will make a young man very happy one day” is one I often think of. Or….she’s growing into a beautiful young lady”. It is also OK to enjoy the Eye Candy” that presents itself. Now if we could only figure out a way to keep their mo……….never mind, LMAO 😀

            • “eye candy”

              Right. I think that is how most men view attractive females in transition to womanhood.

              I tend to think in similar terms to yourself. I find myself trying to imagine them at 20 something, like a prediction. “In 5-7 years, she’s going to be 10-15 pounds heavier without the baby face, with more of a clue about life, and a damn fine woman she will be, …almost is.”

              The guy at the Starbucks was not thinking “eye candy” or simply admiring her beauty. He was trying to get some young ass old enough to know the difference is what he was doing. Hence a lapse in judgement for acting on desire of someone ‘out of range’.

              I am not defending the guy. But I do get annoyed when I see people calling typical men perverted for being men. He’s probably not a perv, just kind of stupid.

              Then again, 16 is pretty young to be pursuing. I do have to question that a little.

  25. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I know the VT energy hack has been pretty well blown up as a bogus crisis……but i wanted to share with everyone the photo that was attached to the article in VT…..They show VT Yankee Nuclear Power plant as the subject of the location of the malware……news to these news reporters

    Vermont Yankee has been DECOMMISSIONED almost three years ago.

  26. Dale A Albrecht says:

    The other morning at 0700 waterfowl season opened up. What I do not understand is how anyone can be so into self abuse to sit in a blind at dawn with it pouring down rain just to shoot a duck or goose. It has been pouring cats and dogs…I hope they’re in season.
    Been fairly normal weather…temperatures fluctuate, clear sky’s then cloudy, Rain and thunderstorms….just as long as we have only one day of ice or snow without driving to it, will make for a complete winter. Flowers will start late Jan or early Feb, so beds are being prepared now.

  27. 2017 Goals

    I still haven’t found out who let the Dogs Out…where’s the beef…how to get to Sesame Street… why Dora doesn’t just use Google Maps…Why do all flavors of fruit loops taste exactly the same, or how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop……why eggs are packaged in a flimsy paper carton, but batteries are secured in plastic that’s tough as nails, yet light bulbs too are in a flimsy carton… Ever buy scissors? You need scissors to cut into the packaging of scissors… i still don’t understand why there is Braille on drive up ATM’s or why “abbreviated” is such a long word; or why is there a D in ‘fridge’ but not in refrigerator… why lemon juice is made with artificial flavor yet dish-washing liquid is made with real lemons… why they sterilize the needle for lethal injections… and, why do you have to “put your two cents in” but it’s only a “penny for your thoughts” where’s that extra penny going to… why do The Alphabet Song and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star have the same tune… why did you just try to sing those two previous songs… and just what is Victoria’s secret? ….and what would you do for a Klondike bar

    • You ask important questions but you do not have the proper security clearances to be told the answers.

      Now, I want to know why, in the Borough of Fair Lawn in the State of NJ, they are busily digging up the sidewalk at every street corner where years ago they installed curb cuts for the handicapped and now are installing rectangular bumpy red mats about 3 feet by two feet?

      Is everybody else as lucky as us?

      • Just as lucky in the suburbs of Detroit. Had our main drag resurfaced and new sidewalks put down in the last couple seasons. Those bumpy pads are for allllll the blind folks walking the streets…kinda like braille for intersections.

    • I let the damn dogs out…got tired of their incessant barking. The beef is in Texas, of course. Sesame Street? Obama’s new address. Who the hell is Dora? Fruit Loops only exist in Washington DC…. and eat the damn Tootsie Roll Pop, that is why you bought it in the first place. Eggs are in a flimsy carton because of California and you can’t open a scissors pack because you are deemed not qualified by Washington DC standards. You must open the pack with an open ended razor sharp box cutter ( what is wrong with you? ). You are still trying to understand Washington DC with the Braille comment…are you insensitive just because blind people cannot drive? Have you been drinking JAC’s logical juice? Abbreviated is a word coined by academia who do not know how to get out of the rain. ( You can recognize them…they stand on street corners and look up into the rain ). THere are no lemons left for real lemon juice because they are all in the dishwasher soap…Geez……..I thought everyone knew that. As far as the two cents worth……that is a Washington politician trying to make coherent sentences when their thought process is only worth a penny (if that). Oh, the extra penny used to go into Clinton’s Foundation.
      The serilized needle?? Are you daft? Of course the criminal gets a sterilized needle…they have more rights than you.

      The Alphabet Song and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star have the same tune… why did you just try to sing those two previous songs? Because I have absolutely no answer to this one..and, yes, I did try to song the two songs….BUT…..I did find them to be relaxing and it did bring back pleasant memories of my children. ( At least it is not “It’s a Small World After All”.

      I KNOW what Victoria’s Secret is…..all men kjnow what Victoria’s Secret is….She is a successful woman who knows how to make money off men who buy her stuff to see their woman strut around in them before learning the secret.

      I would KILL for a Klondike Bar……and finally…….the “D” in fridge…..why not?

      Last but not least….Anita, you are a hoot. Made me laugh this morning and spend an inordinate amount of time answering this….I must go now,,,,to Victoria;s.

      • Anita and Colonel….you BOTH made me laugh out loud! Thanks for that!

        I do have one serious answer for you…the Braille pin pad is for the blind person sitting in the back seat behind the driver who drove him or her to the bank. This way the blind person can do their own banking at an ATM without giving someone else their PIN. I have done this for a blind friend before.


    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Anita….these are some serious questions to ponder…..I believe we should ask Congress to investigate and hold hearings so we might get some answers…..it just may be within their skill set because they certainly do not seem to come up with hard answers to important governmental transgressions.

    • I love that site!! Definitely pro Trump but aside from that, the guy lays it out with clarity, with links to back everything up. I learn something there with every new post. Reminds me of the USW days at SUFA. CTH was recently awarded blog of the year by whoever gives that award.

      As to the article. Man! I don’t understand how these people get away with what they do. The swamp really does run deep. Dangerously deep. Go Trump and Co.

  28. @D13 the Colonel, Am I correct in stating that ALL of our Navy Carrier Groups are in US ports, the first time since WWII?

    • All but one.

      • Which one is still floating around?

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        The Med is empty of US carriers. The fleet that was there returned to Norfolk on schedule but it’s replacement battle group with the USS Bush allegedly just left Norfolk to return to the fight,,,,yet the other day the Bush was still doing flight quals to prepare for combat missions…..usually the fleet to be replaced does not leave until relieved….not anymore.

        The administration and the CNO blamed the republicans and the budget deal the other year on causing the slow down of the Bush’s yardwork causing it;s delay to be deployed because of funds…..stop wasting money then on the Ford and Zumwalt’s and the LCS’s that keep breaking down .

        I guess if a battalion was in the midst of combat and was due to be replaced and the new group was delayed….they’d just say…hold on guys to the opposition we’re heading home.Just stay where you were until our relief arrives.

    • http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html

      According to this, the Eisenhower is still out.

      • Dont think so…..but can verify,

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        As of late last year it had left ME operations, and cleared the Straits of Gibraltar entered the Atlantic heading home to Norfolk last update 12/21/2016……only takes a few days to transit the Atlantic…..they’re home

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Gman my earlier post is more updated

        Reagan in homeport Japan Jan 1
        Bush…deployed early 2017….probably left after flight training the other day
        Nimitz….completed tailored ship training and is awaiting final evaluation…in port
        Vinson…scheduled 2017 deployment in San Diego
        Truman…in port Norfolk
        Stennis…in home port Bremerton for the holidays
        Eisenhower…December 31….transited theAtlantic and is pierside in Norfolk
        Roosevelt…..completed PIA Planned incremental availability…in port
        Lincoln….2017 fiscal year return to fleet
        Washington…2019 scheduled return after refueling

        Ford tied to dock moves only under tow and scheduled to be commissioned maybe in 2017

        That leaves only one carrier actually going someplace as of Jan 2 2017.

        • Somebody is not updated….I am showing no carriers currently deployed.

          • Deployed being the optimum word…..I am not relying on the internet.

            • Dale A Albrecht says:

              The Bush just left Norfolk after a long delay, scheduled deployment 2017. It most certainly is NOT on station. In fact just a few days ago it was doing its flight quals and work-up off the east coast, then the following day the news says it has left to rejoin the fight……that I seriously doubt that, it takes time to work the ship up after such a long time in port and the air wings in Oceana. Doing landings and takeoffs from the tarmac is not taking cat launches and arresting gear landings……I’ll believe it when the ship actually heads west and hits the Levant coast…….Bottom line is that one is actually moving and not on station and the rest are TIED to a dock.

            • Dale A Albrecht says:

              “The end of sea trials will mark GHWB’s successful completion of PIA and the crew will return to its homeport of Norfolk, Virginia, to enter its training and qualification cycle in preparation for a 2017 deployment”

              This right from the Navy’s communication site…..so in all probability the news of the ship’s returning to the fight is symantics to quiet the headlines of there being no CV battle groups at sea. The fact that they completed the PIA and the group exercises just the other week, now they may be “READY” to return to the fight, but they had to return to port for evals and probably last minute repairs and provisioning the battlegroup……like I said the Bush is sort of moving but not actually deployed. and certainly not on station…..so in a way 100% are not doing their mission and all but one is actually technically not tied to a dock……but also in reality only 5 are potentially available….the rest are in for extensive overhauls and refueling taking 1.5 – 3 years offline……friggin sad..

  29. Gman…I’m ready to dump the email address I use for SUFA. This is the only place I still use that address. I remember Buck having an issue back in the day with this. What’s the lowdown?

  30. Dale A Albrecht says:


    Even the UN climate change groups have dropped using the “hockey stick” graph because it was proven to be so falsely generated with manipulated statistics.

  31. Geo5rge C. Scott explains how to attack the hackers.

  32. Just A Citizen says:

    Morning thoughts:

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it, and then misapplying the wrong remedies.”

    – Groucho Marx

    I see many articles posted these days suggesting the end of the Republic is near or that we have prevented the Republic from its path of destruction.

    What if we passed the breaking point decades ago and we are now just fighting over the remains?

    How would that change your view about what is needed or should be done?

  33. Just A Citizen says:

    A little heavier fare, to chew on.

    Say’s Treatise, particularly his chapter, “Of the right of property,” though written over two centuries ago, remains among the wisest, though most commonly ignored, insights into property rights. Among Say’s many penetrating observations are these:

    “The right of property…[is] the most powerful of all encouragements to the multiplication of wealth.”

    “The legal inviolability of property is obviously a mere mockery, where the sovereign power…practices robbery itself…or where possession is rendered perpetually insecure, by the intricacy of legislative enactments, and the subtleties of technical nicety. Nor can property be said to exist, where it is not matter of reality as well as of right. Then, and then only, can the sources of production… attain their utmost degree of fecundity.”

    “Who will attempt to deny, that the certainty of enjoying the fruits of one’s land, capital and labor, is the most powerful inducement to render them productive? Or who is dull enough to doubt, that no one knows so well as the proprietor how to make the best use of his property? Yet how often in practice is that inviolability of property disregarded…How often is it broken in upon for the most insignificant purposes; and its violation, that should naturally excite indignation, justified upon the most flimsy pretexts?”

    “There is no security of property, where a despotic authority can possess itself of the property of the subject against his consent. Neither is there such security, where the consent is merely nominal and delusive.”

    “The right of property is equally invaded, by obstructing the free employment of the means of production, as by violently depriving the proprietor of the product of his land, capital, or industry: for the right of property…is the right of use or even abuse. Thus, landed property is violated by arbitrarily prescribing tillage or plantation; or by interdicting particular modes of cultivation; the property of the capitalist is violated, by prohibiting particular ways of employing it…forbidding the proprietor to build on his own soil, or prescribing the form and requisites of the building. It is a further violation of the capitalist’s property to prohibit any kind of industry, or to load it with duties amounting to prohibition, after he has once embarked his capital in that way.”

    “Yet, sacred as the property in the faculties of industry is, it is constantly infringed upon…A government is guilty of an invasion upon it, when…depriving the individual of the fair and reasonable certainty of having his time and facilities at his own disposal…What robber or despoiler could commit a more atrocious act of invasion upon the public security?”

    “Public safety sometimes imperiously requires the sacrifice of private property; but that sacrifice is a violation…For the right of property implies the free disposition of one’s own; and its sacrifice, however fully indemnified, is a forced disposition.”

    “When public authority is not itself a spoliator, it procures to the nation the greatest of all blessings, protection from spoliation by others. Without this protection of each individual by the united force of the whole community, it is impossible to conceive any considerable development of the productive powers of man, of land, and of capital; or even to conceive the existence of capital at all; for it is nothing more than accumulated value, operating under the safeguard of authority.”

    “The poor man…is equally interested with the rich in upholding the inviolability of property. His personal services would not be available, without the aid of accumulations previously made and protected. Every obstruction to, or dissipation of these accumulations, is a material injury to his means of gaining a livelihood; and the ruin and spoliation of the higher is as certainly followed by the misery and degradation of the lower classes.”
    J.B. Say, because he saw theory as a guide to practice (versus something ignored when inconvenient for those in power), was concerned with applying his understanding of property rights. That is clear from other sections of his Treatise, such as those dealing with taxation and regulation. In Larry Sechrest’s words, “he correctly identifies both government regulation and taxation…as threats to civil society itself.” Unfortunately, Say’s insights are seldom practiced, because, “agents of public authority…can enforce error and absurdity at the point of the bayonet or mouth of the cannon.” Say continues:

    “Something cannot be produced out of nothing by a mere touch of the wand…there are but two ways of obtaining…creating oneself or taking from others. The best scheme of finance is, to spend as little as possible; and the best tax is always the lightest.”

    “The value paid to government by the tax-payer is given without equivalent or return.”

    “Excessive taxation is a kind of suicide…it extinguishes both production and consumption, and the tax-payer in the bargain.”

    “The nature of the products is always regulated by the wants of society… [therefore] legislative interference is superfluous altogether.”

    “Violations of property with all their usual accompaniments of inquisitorial search, personal violence, and injustice, have never afforded any considerable resource to the government employing them. In polity as well as morality, the grand secret is, not to constrain the actions, but to awaken the inclinations of mankind. Markets are not to be supplied by the terror of the bayonet or the saber.”

    “Of all the means by which a government can stimulate production, there is none so powerful as the perfect security of person and property, especially from the aggressions of arbitrary power. This security is itself a source of public prosperity.”

    • Nobody actually owns property (actual land). It’s called ownership, but in reality, it’s simply rented from the government(s). In Pa for example, there are 2 different property taxes, one is for local stuff and collected by the County, the other is called a “school tax” which is collected by the State. The “school tax” has nothing to do with whether or not the land renter has kids, nothing at all. As long as you pay your protection tax (County property tax), the County will allow you to use the land as one see’s fit, as long as all the proper permits are paid for. The State will also leave one alone, as long as they pay the “school tax”. This is always dependent on whether or not the State or Federal government don’t want one’s rented property for a roadway or a new shopping mall (maybe a casino).

      What this really means is that the Republic is already dead, at least when it comes to “freedoms”, like private land ownership. We haven’t quite had the breaking point yet but it’s coming. Unless there is a major shift in how taxes are issued and collected, that day will come. Considering that the two taxes mentioned will have to continue to rise, it will eventually become overbearing for those on the low end of the economic scale, which is a large number of people and growing. There is a better way.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        “Nobody actually owns property (actual land). It’s called ownership, but in reality, it’s simply rented from the government(s).”

        That was the point Say was making.

      • Taxes are theft. It’s that simple.

        People in mass tolerate, even demand, violence/theft upon themselves. People are stupid.

        • What we have now, a great deal is theft. The Government’s authority to tax has been seriously abused. This is one thing that needs to be seriously changed.

          • All taxes are theft as none are strictly voluntary. Government authority is fiction. See it for what it is; thugs stealing.

            Yes, it needs change, alright. Get rid of government entirely, or at least allow people to opt out.

  34. Dale A Albrecht says:
    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Not at all forgiving the aggression with Crimea…..but didn’t the US overthrow an elected government in Ukraine that was sympathetic to Russia? Thereby setting up the present conflict and division of Ukraine.

      • aggression with Crimea? What aggression? Crimea conducted an election and voted to side with Russia. There was no violence in Crimea. The “MSM’ nonsense continues.

      • Let us all remember where exactly the Russian warm water naval base is located. US and German internal meddling with the government in Kiev including huge cash bailouts would have come with a cost……No way in hell the Russians would give up dominance in the Black Sea or even take the chance. Current Russian Nicey- Nicey with Turkey is to guarantee transit to the Med. That, is why I have my questions about the shooting of the ambassador. Who exactly, was that supposed to benefit?

        Despite the Colonels’ distrust of Russia, Colonel Peter’s distrust, General Keene’s distrust and the rest of the establishments distrust, they are doing NO MORE than we have done in the past to protect their interests. Anyone remember the Cuban Missile Crisis or 55 years before that when WE almost went to war with Germany over Venezuelan debt?


        • Of course. they would protect their warm water port…I could care less…..my distrust of Russia is not their warm water port. My distrust of Russia is……….Russia ideology.

          • I wrote an article a long time ago about the possibility that the US government may have “made up” the entire Cold War. In short, the Cold War psyop was to keep the people calm whilst spending a fortune on war equipment (the Industrial Military Complex) to be used in future…unending wars.

            This past year or two has brought to light the amazing amount of disinformation the people were spoon fed, on a consistent basis and uniformly. I have posted video’s exposing this, using simple catch phrases on insignificant subject(s).

            Whether it be Kindergarten, High School, College or even military war college, it is quite possible, considering all of the current evidence, that all the bullshit about Russia (and likely in reverse over there) was nothing but a political psyop to ensure that the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) always had an enemy. The military buildup and coverage of Desert Storm to promote our military power and expertise wasn’t by accident, as you well know. Bush 1 set up Hussian because the Complex needed a war. With Russia being ignored, in came the Islamic terrorists, fully funded by agencies in support of the MIC.

            For the record, loss of human life is a nonissue to the MIC, the more the merrier. Looking back since WWII, we have basically been in perpetual war, even if bullets and bombs were not flying, the money was being paid to build them.

            I have separated myself from all of the propaganda and am looking at things through a different window, one not clouded by teachers and instructors and books, but one based on what I really see. Even the far Left Liberal’s are not a real threat, but are shown to be in many cases (they could be eliminated in one event). Propaganda has clouded the minds and hearts of people, everywhere. At some point we have to put down the aspirations of people who only desire money and power. They keep winning because they have long controlled the message. Isn’t it time to change the message?

            • Let me add Colonel, I don’t believe for a minute that MIC is limited to the US, it is international and Russia, China, UK and others are all part of it. I’d bet tools of war expenditures exceed all others, including food, by quite a sum.

          • And, I agree! But, Russia is a country with absolutely NO experience in democratic government and, as we have learned this cannot be developed nor enforced by outsiders.

            Remember what i said NO, NONE, NADA. The wall fell in ’89. Russia went up in smoke in ’91. They are currently 25 years into THEIR experiment.

            If I may use an analogy, I will use us. And, we started from a much, much better place then they did. Where exactly were we about 25 years on? I don’t much care if you start with Washington’s inauguration with your count or not. But, somewhere in our early formative years we had a President with remarkably similar tendencies to do his own thing. His name was Andy Jackson. He had little use for the courts, congress or the law and ran pretty roughshod over everybody. Pretty mean evil SOB with a whole lot of blood on his hands. Innocent blood.

            Jackson eventually left but less than 40 years later we tore ourselves apart in the Civil War. Issues were supposedly settled but the we backslid until the 1950’s.

            Russia has a long road ahead and it helps neither them nor us by treating them like they have leprosy.

            So, be suspicious of the Russians but do not judge them by a standard they are incapable of meeting.

            • Of course I am going to judge them……that is the reality. Here is what I see…..it is not the Russian people that are the threat.All they want to do is survive like anyone else…..it is ideology. We just went through a pretty significant change in out politics….in other words, we have basically told Washington that we do not like nor want the same damn thing we have had in politics. We do not want an establishment in charge. We elected a man that we do not know what he is going to do…..but uncertaintly is better than the same old thing. We shall see….

              Russia has not changed. Putin is a cold war KGB Colonel with a stated mission of returning to the old USSR days. He is just going to do it differently. He has learned well from the Democrats….or actually, the establishment of both the Democrats and the Republicans. He will do it slowly and make the people think that is what they want.

              So, yes, until I see change….I will be skeptical and I do not trust Putin at all….not one little bitty iota shred or molecule.This is not some major world wide colusion of the military industrial comlex…..it is ideology and culture…nothing more. I still trust the old saying that a tiger does not change its stripes.

              If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, smells like a duck……..it is a friggin’ duck. It is not a water fowl and nothing else can change the fact it is a friggin’ duck.

              Putin is dangerous. Much more dangerous than Trump with his finger on a nuke button.

              • And again I agree but…..Putin is trying to reestablish Russia as a major power which it is. Gorbachev was running a fire sale which I could not believe at the time. The “why” made no sense at all.

                Solzhenitsyn and Gorbachev both returned home. Solzhenitsyn because “mother Russia” was re-established. Gorbachev because he got sick and tired of watching successive American administrations betray the understanding he thought he had with Reagan.

                Sorry but there was no way in hell Russia would have moved in Crimea had we and the krauts not overthrown the legitimate government. Ditto for Georgia and our urging them to stand up to the bear. Russia will strike out like a cornered cat if they feel they have to. Let’s try NOT to make them feel that way for a change.

                It is 25 years on now since the collapse. You will be dealing with former Communists and KGB types for another 15 at least. That’s all there were! You know, our first X number of presidents were once very loyal subjects of the King!

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          I was doing some more reading on the Ukraine conflict…..NATO continuing to push westward is very much at the heart of the matter. Flows since 2000’s from Bush to candidates Obama and McCain to President Obama – this weekend McCain pledging support to Ukraine …obviously simplified, but would there be this conflict if NATO and the US kept their promise to NOT expand as Russia retreated from eastern Europe.

          • Why is it any of our business? Russia is surrounded by NATO and US bases, me thinks the whole issue is bullshit to start another stupid war.

          • McCain is an F—— Idiot! A very dangerous one. Hard for me to say this but based on his comments and actions over the past eight years we were probably lucky he got beat.

            My eldest, the Army guy, thought he was badly damaged from Viet-nam. many of Steve’s contemporaries thought so too.

            • Dale A Albrecht says:

              I’m inclined to believe that also…..you’d have thought that he’d have had enough warfare in his life and suffering as a POW. But for the past 8 yeras he has been one of the provocateurs of actions throught the M/E and eastern europe.

              Much less one of the gang back in Bush’s day that was teamed up with Kennedy on immigration relaxing.

  35. How dare they agree not to fight w/o our approval.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Interesting how Assad did not start the fight. We immediately called for a regime change and backed one of the most vicious groups ever to grace this planet against him. Who would be the most stable government in Syria….Assad or ISIS/Al Queda? I’ll take Assad

  36. http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-01-racism-rigged-ae-actors-paid-staged-wooden-crosses-nazi-hate-staged.html

    The Left has too fake this stuff to try and continue their bullshit agenda. Busted again.

    • The KKK leaders who were interviewed by Variety detailed how they were wooed with promises the program would capture the truth about life in the organization; encouraged not to file taxes on cash payments for agreeing to participate in the filming; presented with pre-scripted fictional story scenarios; instructed what to say on camera; asked to misrepresent their actual identities, motivations and relationships with others, and re-enacted camera shoots repeatedly until the production team was satisfied.

      The production team even paid for material and equipment to construct and burn wooden crosses and Nazi swastikas, according to multiple sources including Richard Nichols, who is one of the featured subjects of the documentary series as the Grand Dragon of a KKK cell known as the Tennessee White Knights of the Invisible Empire. He also said he was encouraged by a producer to use the epithet “n*gger” in interviews.”


      This shows, without a doubt, that Liberal’s are nothing short of liars and fakes. They cannot be believed, ever!

  37. Another CT thought for your consumption. We all know there is a war on Christianity. There is also a war being started against Islam (all this shit happening in Europe isn’t for political correctness, it has a purpose). Anyways, this is all on purpose, not to have a one world religion, but to lesson the fear and mental destruction when the proof of alien life is made public. This of course is all conspiracy theory. In the real world, it would not surprise me one bit if alien life from outside of earth were proven. That’s a really big Universe out there to think we are the only intelligent (questionable) life forms.

  38. Dale A Albrecht says:


    Nice article in Bloomberg today…….I hope our tech savy outgoing President, Congress and our “intelligence” agencies read it.

  39. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Changing the subject a bit to teaching. I started watching “The Water is Wide” Even though this is a true story from the 60’s….how much does this remind us of our entire system today? Jon Voight acted in the movie version filmed in the 70’s

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      come on gman….this conspiracy theory has been around forever. The conspiracy deniers have been totally at work since the mid 70’s and being quite successful while at each “financial” crisis the instigators get bailed out by the TAXPAYER and then these criminals figure out another scheme,,,,then the TAXPAYER gets reamed again….while NO banker gets held accountable. But if the TAXPAYER says no more….they lose their property and go to jail…..

      Trump will have to do some awful good magic tricks to get rid of the “false” economy while building a more stable and realistic economy.

      I do believe the article in more ways that you think.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      I am calling BS on this theory that the bankers and others are conspiring to bring down the global economy in order to impose some new world order.

      Based on my own contact with these “elites”, and that of others I know who have had contact with them, I can say they are simply not that smart nor are they totally in control.

      The last crisis here is a perfect example. The FED did fuel the housing bubble with low rates. But the FED’s goal was to stimulate an economy that should have been failing otherwise. That is their job. Run around putting band aids on wounds and sticking fingers in the holes of the dike.

      When the SHTF in 2007 the Fed had not plan. They made stuff up as they went, trying to get the economy moving and preventing the BIG from failing. They have convinced themselves that allowing people to hurt is unacceptable. So they once again pushed the pain into the future.

      Now this is not to say there are not people who do believe in a New World order. There are two such groups in my view. One is dedicated to the Socialist ideology, Mr. Obama is their latest hero. The other is the Free Market Capitalists. They have no major champion, they simply keep working to undermine the National regulatory controls.

      It is the Socialists that have been running the show and that is why Nationalism is rearing its head once again. Free Market Capitalism is not contrary to Nationalism nor Patriotism of one’s Homeland. It is the enemy of Fascism, however. That rotten form of Socialism which uses the National Patriotism to impose its will upon the economy. This is where the elite truly flourish.

      One other thought that fits with this story. While Tribalism is a very natural state of mankind, Nationalism is not. The larger the Nation State the less likely the two concepts are compatible. The USA today is finally suffering under the strain of tribalism as many of the Founders warned would happen. This was a key reason they settled for a Republican form of Govt. rather than a single Nation, with administrative units at the regional or local level.

      The divisions in this country will continue to grow if we do not rediscover a few basic Core Values that all of us can share. It is those values that bind a diverse people. Without it we are dependent upon population migration within our boundaries to keep us tied together. That was not enough to prevent the first Civil War. We are more mobile today so maybe it will work. Or maybe not.

  40. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Just what has the House Ethics group actually done anyway? If something is egregious enough let the DOJ/IRS/SEC handle it. To me the in house/senate ethics watchdogs are nothing but the “Fox watching the Henhouse”

    Or for that matter turn anything over to the constituency that elected the person to begin with and let them decide

    • Yes, it is the Fox guarding the henouse….but remember, committee’s are also rewards…to be a chairman of any committee is a “political coup”…..that is why you have so many of them. I would imagine that 90 percent of the committees could be sunsetted.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        All they do is create paper. CO2 and hot air and wind up concluding nothing.

        Like why Valarie Jarrett and Obama can get away with saying that Obama has had a scandal free administration…which in itself is a delusional statement

  41. “Because I am a “lifer” in the military, I’ve seen the impact of a president more than many of you can imagine. I enlisted with LBJ and saw just what a Democrat clusterfuck was all about. I went to Vietnam and saw how we were constantly and incessantly bombarded with micromanagement from Washington that got thousands of military people killed. I sometimes wonder if I’ll get to heaven, but if I go to hell, I’m sure I’ll still be a few hundred floors above that bastard Robert McNamara, LBJ, John Kerry, Jane Fonda, and yes, even the “hero” John McCain.

    After Johnson “abdicated” rather than having his ass wiped, I lived through Nixon who was hawkish but allowed the generals (and there WERE a few real generals back then versus now) to run the show. He was so out of touch that he never knew North Vietnam was about to surrender when the Paris Accord was presented.

    Only God could help us after Gerald Ford was beaten by Jimmy Peanuts who’d been funded by Saudi money. The military was turned into Section 8 and even the Whitehouse suffered the austerity.

    Then the light began to shine and Ronald Reagan swept into the fray. He not only loved the country and the military, they loved him back. Esprit d’corps was off the scale during his presidency. The Liberals were slowly turning into socialists, however, and about this time all the draft dodgers of the 1960’s,who’d been given amnesty by Jimmy Peanuts,were turning out college graduates with degrees in socialism

    Bush #1 was an enigma from the CIA and though he never did much either way, HE NEVER DID MUCH EITHER WAY!

    Welcome to Bill Clinton. Clinton spent most of his two terms wagging the dog and creating the Oral Office, sending a bomber to blow up Quaddafi’s tent and killing a goat or two, while allowing the UN to set up the infamous Black Hawk Down situation. He made history by becoming only the second president to be impeached.

    I actually felt sorry for Bush #2. He was doomed to infamy from the start. He thought most of America was still the rah rah patriots of WWII when they were simply socialists waiting to feed him to the sharks.

    Then there came the Manchurian Candidate with a faked (OK Democrats, let’s say “of questionable origin” to assuage your PC brains) birth certificate, who’d gotten a free ride through college under a foreign student exemption, and whose college records and complete life history had been sealed. (We know more about Thomas Jefferson’s bastard children than we do about Obama, Michelle, OR their two kids.) From his inaugural address, he slandered America and within days had begun to encourage disention of the races as well as slandering police who “acted stupidly”. That was mild to the crap that would come in doubling the national debt from what had been built by ALL THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS COMBINED, feeding us bullspit about how Muslims built this country, and nationalizing American industries. Fueled by George Soros’ money and using the Air Force fleet as his personal charters, he appointed malcontents and traitors into positions of authority. He trashed the Constitution by installing “czars” (interesting he chose a title like that) to bypass Congressional authority. By that time, Congress was completely corrupt on both sides of the aisle. No one had balls to impeach this charlatan.

    Mysteriously, the lone outspoken conservative Supreme Court Justice suddenly dies in his sleep at an Obama pal’s hunting lodge and the Supreme Court is evenly split. Finally, Congress shows some balls and rejects Obama’s nomination. The Libtards aren’t worried because the fix is in. Soros has paid demonstrators to cause turmoil at all the Republican gatherings. Obama concedes that illegal aliens should vote as they won’t be prosecuted, and Soros-manufactured voting machines are caught switching votes in certain precincts. Hillary has cheated her way to the nomination and her lies are completely ignored by the brainwashed minions of sycophants who follow her.

    But a shocking thing happened on the way to the forum.

    Middle America had had enough,and although the pollsters and the pipers tried to convince them not even to bother to vote, they were fed up with the denizens of the swamp. It was time. Florida was designated a “swing” state ignoring that all those old retirees living in St.Petersburg and the fed up Cuban Americans of Miami weren’t interested in their platform. Ohio and Pennsylvania, where coal production was blacklisted and where Obama had ridiculed them for “clinging to their Bibles and their guns,” lay awaiting this supposed “landslide” Hillary vote and creamed it.

    The Socialist world of the Democrat Party disintegrated. An American who expressed unbridled love of country and respect for police, firemen, and military,steamrolled across the heartland and the liberals realized their scheme was trashed. A CONSTITUTIONALIST would be nominated to the Supreme Court and if the old hag who’d claimed to retire if Trump were elected would actually do so, the Supreme Court would have a massive majority of CONSTITUTIONALISTS for the next 40-50 years.

    Now, the same party who’d ridiculed Trump on his comments about the election being rigged, started screaming that the election was rigged. They even advocated having the election repeated. They created mobs that burned and pillaged, stopped traffic, threatened murder, batter,and rape of Trump supporters, and became the anarchists that the socialist dream thrives upon. They run like castrated pigs for safe zones and use diaper pins as their national symbol.

    This is exactly what happens when political correctness takes over and participation trophies are awarded to everyone. They can’t conceive how disgusting and subservient they have become. Donald Trump may NOT be the best person for the job, but he’s such a welcome respite from the candy-assed whimps who’ve been running the swamp that it’s refreshing to see. At the very least, Donald Trump derailed the Socialist train and bought us precious time. If he only does half of what he’s promised, we’ll still be legions ahead of where Obama has dragged us. Already countries who held us in contempt are lining up to be found in the favor of America.

    So for you liberal lurkers and you half-assed fence-sitters, kiss off. You had your big hurrah and now your party is over. For you staunch Republicans in office, don’t gloat so much yourselves. You’ve been put on notice by the American people that we’re fed up with ALL YOU BASTARDS,and if you don’t start putting America first, you do so at your own peril. You might want to buy a copy of George McGovern’s autobiography and see how shocking and humbling it can be for a professional politician to have to try to find legitimate work once he falls from grace.

    This election was pure, unadulterated AMERICAN. Hillary got beaten,and AMERICA WON THE ELECTION!

    You can claim he’s “Not Your President” all you want, but unless you forfeit your American citizenship, YES HE IS! Go cry a river some place where they need water.”

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Sir….You really let it all out…..I’m surprised your head had not exploded yet from all the built up pressure.

      GM criticized Trump on his statement about “Cruses” claiming most are built here that are sold here…….what about building more and exporting them and build them as “efficiently” and cost competitively as possible so “foreign” buyers can afford them.

      While I was in IBM semi-conductor manufacturing at Essex Junction VT (I will not speak for any other US facility in that division, they were losers) we maintained a very steady workforce of around 7300 people. All extremely skilled. Over the years I worked on 4 generations of semiconductors with each bring a 5X improvement in scale, costs and speed. Just one of our building out of (3) was rated as the 6th largest semiconductor manufacturer in the world. The business globally was 2X bigger that the next largest which was NEC, we were 6X bigger than Intel…..That said at our globally competitive prices and efficiencies we didn’t lay off, we just built MORE and couldn’t possible meet the demand. At that time the company chose to compete globally and was successful. However in subsequent years the company decided to NOT compete and ceased investing, with the subsequent outcome of the company PAYING a company from Qatar to take it off their hands……The new company actually did not want the fabricators, they will cost to much to modernize, but what they did want was the PATENTS and designs, many of which were for military projects……the sale went through the Obama administration without a peep.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Sir….your comment about Carter and his campaign getting money from Saudi sources. I logically can buy into that, but can you cite sources? Carter has more than exposed his anti-semitic views over the years. The Saudi’s would buy into that. Carter absolutely cut the legs out from under the Shah paving the way for the ultra Islamic radical Khomeni and for a time removed Iran from competion in the world oil markets.

    • Bravo!

  42. https://biggeekdad.com/2016/ 11/buster-the-boxer/
    https://biggeekdad.com/2016/ 11/buster-boxer-paroday/

    You have to watch the first one….then the parody. CAUTION !!! Do not be drinking or eating anything when you see this….lest your screen become covered with “spew”.

  43. And then there is this……..

    The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Robert Sarver, came out strongly opposing
    AZ’s new immigration laws. Arizona’s Governor, Jan Brewer, released the following statement in response to Sarver’s criticism of the new law:

    ” What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into games without paying? What if they had a good idea who the gate-crashers are but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn’t be ejected.

    Furthermore, what if Suns’ ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?”

    Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer

    • Here is a WTF. WTF is it with professional sports, team owners and sports reporters and commentators these days?

    • Do humans have a right to free movement, yes or no? The obvious answer is yes. Thus borders are violence as they forcefully control or restrict the rightful nonviolent travel and immigration of humans.

      Governor Brewer’s analogy is false, as a sporting event is not equal to immigration. A sporting event in a stadium is entertainment sold on private property, and does not violate anyone. It is a rightful. Someone stealing or disturbing warrants an act of defense.

      The Suns investing their money in a militia, then claiming ownership of all of Phoenix and building a ‘Berlin Wall’ would be more accurate. They cannot claim defense if someone should breach their wall, as they are the aggressor.

  44. One-dimensional East Coast liberals who neither recognize nor tolerate any perspective but their own triggered the chain reaction of popular anger that landed President-elect Donald trump in the White House, according to celebrity chef Anthony Bourdain.

    “The utter contempt with which privileged Eastern liberals such as myself discuss red-state, gun-country, working-class America as ridiculous and morons and rubes is largely responsible for the up swell of rage and contempt and desire to pull down the temple that we’re seeing now,” Bourdain told Reason.

    Bourdain, who hosts CNN’s Parts Unknown, said there are many similarities between East Coast and heartland dwellers.

    “There are a hell of a lot of nice people out there, who are doing what everyone else in this world is trying to do: the best they can to get by, and take care of themselves and the people they love,” he said.

    In an Eater interview in December, Bourdain made similar remarks.

    “I think to mock constantly, as so much of the left has done — to demonize, to ridicule, to treat with abject contempt people who live in a very different America than they live in — is both ugly and counterproductive,” he said.

    “There are a lot of people who are pissed off, they’re tired of being talked to like that. There are a lot of people in this world who, when an Applebee’s moves to their town, it’s a big deal — and I don’t mean that in a dismissive way. Where somebody coming to take your guns away is a big concern,” the celebrity chef said.

    Bourdain denounced “preaching to the converted.”

    “The self-congratulatory tone of the privileged left — just repeating and repeating and repeating the outrages of the opposition — this does not win hearts and minds. It doesn’t change anyone’s opinions. It only solidifies them, and makes things worse for all of us,” he told Reason.

    So does liberal censorship of free speech, Bourdain said.

    “I hate the term ‘political correctness,’ the way in which speech that is found to be unpleasant or offensive is often banned from universities. Which is exactly where speech that is potentially hurtful and offensive should be heard,” he added.

    Bourdain cited HBO host Bill Maher as an example of what’s wrong with the left, calling him “insufferably smug. Really the worst of the smug, self-congratulatory left.”

    “He’s a classic example of the smirking, contemptuous, privileged guy who lives in a bubble. And he is in no way looking to reach outside, or even look outside, of that bubble, in an empathetic way,” he said.

    Bourdain said liberals fail to recognize that traditions run deep in America’s heartland.

    “I’ve spent a lot of time in Trump country. I have a lot of sympathy, and I believe understanding, for cultures
    and for places where gun culture goes so deep — that first cold morning when Daddy takes a young boy out hunting with him, lets him use a rifle, shows him how to use it — I know how emotional and how deep that goes,” he told Eater.


    GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, a Christian nation, land of the free and home of the brave.

    How may I help you? Press ‘1’ for English……Press ‘2’ to disconnect until you learn to speak English.

    Please remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ
    and the American Soldier. One died for your soul…..the other for your freedom.



    Perhaps you should remember?

    • Sorry….meant to say just passing it on.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Love it…..but Obama relied upon Americans short attention spans. I do remember his quote about getting over it…….Senor “e no habla espanol”…..I have yet to run into a hispanic craftsman who did not speak english. They have a business to run. We have several “Tiendas” popping up here. Excellent places to shop for anything of the south of the border cuisine. All help and owners speak excellent english. Plus with all the military here who brought wives back from Asia, we have a plethura of excellent asian markets and restaurants.

      FYI….you do not see hispanic workers leaning on their shovels. They’re being put to the use they were intended for.

      Our city council sure was not PC over the holiday’s. As you entered and left the city emblazoned above the city’s symbol was “Merry Christmas”

  46. Debt limit gets reinstated.
    Trump gets to fill 4 spots on the 9th circuit
    Ford cancels Mexican plant, 700 more jobs in Mich for the good guys
    Megan Kelly joins NBC news

    Please, Mr Trump…Its so much winning!

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Perfect fit for Ms. Kelly. Another vacuous person with a huge personality spewing their arrogance at the audience nightly.

      My bet of the year. Ms. Kelly’s ratings fall rapidly to match the new network she is joining.

      Also watch her quickly reveal her true identity. And it isn’t “conservative” at all.

    • “Debt limit gets reinstated.”
      Translation: United Statians spend their progeny as currency to pay for widespread violence and enslavement.

      “Trump gets to fill 4 spots on the 9th circuit”
      Translation: Crime boss gets to hire criminals to assist in violating everyone.

      “Ford cancels Mexican plant, 700 more jobs in Mich for the good guys”
      Translation: Something is going on, or else Ford would still be where there is cheaper labor.

      “Megan Kelly joins NBC news”
      Translation: Some woman on TV changed employers.

      “Please, Mr Trump…Its so much winning!”
      Translation; I(Anita) am rationalizing an evil shit hole as good.

  47. Dale A Albrecht says:

    news update…the House Republicans have backed off on the “ethic’s” committee dismembering…….why would they chose to do so now? It doesn’t make sense seeing that they had larger majorities over the past 6 years, why wait until now? Thinking weirdly, (not uncommon for me) but it was to bring discredit to Trump, enabling the age old democrat mantra of republican corruption. Trump is not stupid and he slammed the house leadership for taking such an action…..they actually needed to put more teeth into their ethics.

  48. So, on day 1 of the new congress, the Republicans think they are back to the good old Tom DeLay days. “Let’s abolish the ethics office!” How convenient while two Republicans are being investigated. Then , “Woah Pardner” , there is a new sheriff in town! Trump says NO! Emphatically! Wish that either of the Bush’s had the gumption to do that.

    • So much going on today I cant get to this article. Can one of you guys sum it up. How did it used to be and what changed?

      • Near as I can figure out we had an ethics office which was “independent”. Maybe, maybe not. But on day 1 the R’s decided that their absolutely highest possible overriding priority was to deep six it. The visuals, from 9AM were NOT pretty. Everything everyone said about the R’s was coming true on day one. Then the Lone Ranger arrived with his faithful companion Pence.

        Ryan just got a taste of what he damned well better get used to. He ain’t even gonna make third fiddle.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        The ethics group was supposedly independent but was being used by Democrats to burn Republican at the Stake based on nothing but anonymous phone calls. You know, like Harry Reids accusation that Romney cheated on his taxes.

        So reform was needed and supported by many in the House, mostly Republicans because they were the victims. As it happens Speaker Ryan was opposed to taking this up right now. He was overruled by a majority in the House who wanted it fixed.

        The Ethics groups will now be supervised by the House Ethics Committee. But Ryan has told them not to interfere with any investigations. On the other hand, the change prevents the group from starting investigations based solely on rumors or anonymous “tips”. Some structure and control is probably needed. And the new group is supposed to be comprised of an equal number of R’s and D’s. That is a good change, but not sure how it is possible.

        The only real problem I can find in the changes is the optics and the usual fumbling of the media communications. Once again the D’s are crying wolf in my opinion. Much like the tantrum they threw over the N. Carolina changes to the Gov’s authority of some board.

        And this was NOT THE FIRST thing done by the new congress. It was the last thing done by the old one. At least per the reports I read.

        • Thanks guys. So Ryan STILL got the Speaker of the House…AFTER he wanted nothing to do with ethics changes? 🙄

        • Dale A Albrecht says:

          Yes…the law that changed in NC was effectively making things equal and unbiased. Governors had a habit of packing the committees and making all sorts of changes…Cooper is/was complaining because the legislature took the power away from the governor……like Obama packing the FCC and the Labor boards….

        • There is no such thing as cheating on taxes. Taxes are theft, thus cheating thieves is protecting your loot. That’s defense of property, not cheating.

          There is nothing ethical about government as it is all based on violence. Thus a government ethics committee is a contradiction in terms, fiction.

          …unless you redefine systematic violence as ethical.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        A very short summary of the problem they hoped to solve:

        “Members of both parties complain that panel often takes up matters based on partisan accusations from outside groups with political motivations, and once they launch a probe members have to mount expensive defense campaigns.”

        from CNN.

        • hmmm. Is this committee why DeLay got the boot? And Newt too back in the day?

          • Just A Citizen says:


            I don’t think so. Will have to look into it.

            The committee was formed while Pelosi was Speaker. Due primarily to the Lobbyist scandals, like Abramhoff.

          • Careful Anita……lest you become an independent thinker………very good.

          • DeLay was a jerk. He brought the very worst tendencies of the democrats with him to the office. Pork, Pork, Pork. That’s all he cared about. Republicans crashed because it became so obvious. While his conviction was overturned I really have to say….really?

            Newt is something else. He, like Moses, brought his people to the promised land after 40 years of wandering in the desert. Then they stabbed him in the back. He is one tough cookie and and would probably agree with John Adams about himself, “I am obnoxious and disliked”. What i do not forgive him for is not fighting back. The foot soldiers would have rallied to his side. His ethics issues were BS designed to hogtie him. Some crap about taking money for a book deal before he should have. Served two purposes, got the thorn out of the dems side and paved the way for the Pork barraleers.

  49. Just A Citizen says:


    Good morning Sir, or should I say good afternoon. Hope your New Year was bright and filled with victories. I had few but USC and Oklahoma were consolation in the end. A few weeks back I said I thought USC was the second best team in the country at the end of the season. I now think Penn State got hosed and also should have been in the playoff, instead of Ohio State. USC was better but they did not win the PAC 12 so the Rose Bowl was their proper prize.

    Now for the real purpose of my note to you. I tried to get you and I a slot in the following class. But they needed a reference. I got Spousal Unit Leader to write one up but when she told them I was “untrainable” they denied my request. Too bad, because I think you and I could have had some fun in this class.


    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      The first weekend retreat will also have a medical procedure required to continue attending and participating. The procedure will be castration and the rest of the retreat will be watching and listening to liberace videos…..

    • Damn…….I thought we would have done well in that class. I wonder why you are untrainable??? I thought Spousal Unit Leader had you in control. Of course, us old retired Colonel’s who know nothing are just sentimental old fools. I am perfectly trainable and would have fit in quite well….

      Why…couldn’t you just see me…..”Hey there fellas….we really do need to take that hill…ummm, if you don’t mind, do you think we could take some tea and go and talk them others off that hill? Or perhaps we could all sit down and share…whadda ya think, guys?”

      Yep…that would do it…………………………………………………………………………BANG !!!

    • You KNOW I’m holding back about BF’s man’s biological imperative now, right?

      Laughing way too hard right now………..

    • I totally agree PSU should have been in the playoffs not OSU.

  50. Colonel, Somehow you and I are on different wavelengths on the Russia thing. I’d like you to try the following.

    Hang up your US Colonel hat for a minute. Put on your ushanka and play an OPFOR retired Russian Colonel. Look at the missiles, the intervention, the NATO expansion from Colonel Vassily Texicoff’s position. What does he think? What does he want?

    When Junior was at Leavenworth he had about five former eastern block SSR Majors in the class with him. Here are young guys, got their commissions after the fall and yet they were very sympathetic with Russia’ positions. This led to some serious knock down drag out fights in class. The instructors vehemently disagreed with them. My guy did not.

    I think the way I do because my old man made me. I was told from a very young age that unless I could intelligently argue the other guys position, I had no right to have an opinion

    • Last question, if you were retired Colonel Vassily Texicoff would you trust the Americanskiis?

      • Ok……I need a little more info here……you want me to look at this post iron curtain?

        • Also, are you going on the inference that NATO has violated the 1990 Agreement of Germany reunification?

          • “Critics claim that by expanding NATO, the West violated the terms for ending the Cold War. The argument has a certain moral logic to it, suggesting that if only the West—the United States, really—hadn’t been so arrogant towards a defeated and demoralized foe, then relations with Russia would be far less difficult today. But this morality play only holds water if we believe that NATO expansion, first, violated Western promises to Russia and, second, threatened Russian security. The record demonstrates the opposite.”

            1. The most notable authority on this matter, former Russian President Mikhail Gorbachev, has complained that the West broke its solemn promise not to expand NATO. It is true that in the 1990 agreement for German reunification, the allies pledged not to base NATO troops in the former East Germany.

            2. Neither the United States nor Russia anticipated at the time the stampede from across Eastern Europe to join the alliance that would soon ensue, so there was no basis for any meaningful commitment to refrain from NATO expansion.

            3. Bush, neither contemplated nor excluded the gradual process of enlarging Euro-Atlantic institutions. When NATO expansion became Western policy, Russian leaders were regularly consulted and informed, most notably in regular, amicable conversations between Presidents Clinton and Yeltsin.

            4. Even if it did not embrace the policy, Moscow well understood that the drive to expand NATO originated in neither Washington nor Brussels, but rather in the capitals of former members of the Warsaw Pact themselves. Attracted by both the prosperity that the European Union promised and the security that NATO’s Article 5 common defense commitment delivered, Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary, the first three new entrants, were keen to anchor themselves in the west. Notably, each of these countries had had a searing experience under Russian domination, creating a natural impulse to escape the shadow of their larger, eastern neighbor.

            5. With EU enlargement policy slower in formation and longer in implementation, the less exacting and more rapid NATO membership process became the de facto stepping stone to joining (or rejoining) Europe. The so-called “Visegrad 3” joined NATO in 1999 and then, five years later became EU members, establishing the precedent of NATO membership as the precursor for every former communist country that eventually joined the Union.

            6. ******IMPORTANT******The point is that neutrality, nonalignment or any form of ambiguous East-West orientation for countries emerging from communism was categorically rejected—not by the United States and its European allies, and not by just the Visegrad 3, but soon by most of the former Warsaw Pact, all of former Yugoslavia, and Albania. The headlong plunge to join the West from across such a large, diverse region suggests deep historical forces at work, not a calculated conspiracy to encircle and demean Russia. The truth is that the expansion of NATO and the EU was a policy response to an express, unanticipated imperative generated by the aspirant countries themselves. Even today, after the devastating, continuing effects of Europe’s financial crisis, the irresistible, magnetic attraction of the West is in evidence. Serbia, a country with close relations and historical affinity with Russia, is actively pursuing EU membership—wholly out of its own volition and not as result of any cynical anti-Russian stratagem from Brussels. Fully respecting Serbian sovereignty, neither the EU nor the US has pressed Belgrade to join NATO first.

            7. Just as the origins of NATO expansion were benign, so too has been its impact on Russian security. More than anything, NATO and EU accession required aspirant countries to incorporate liberal, western values like pluralism, civilian control of the military, rule of law and respect for human rights.

            8. In Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, Russia today asserts the need to protect the security of the ethnic Russian minority as justifying intervention. With more than a million ethnic Russians and Russian citizens living as minorities in the three Baltic states, there are rising concerns that Moscow might create a pretext to intervene in one or more of these states despite the fact that each is a NATO member. It may matter little to the Kremlin, but the fact is that the rights of ethnic Russians are better protected and more strongly regulated by virtue of the Baltics having acceded to both NATO and the EU.

            9. There is no evidence of any NATO member having exploited its membership in the alliance to advance revanchist claims, foment insurrection or subvert Russian security. Estonia has been the source of provocative anti-Russian rhetoric at times, but it was Tallinn that was on the receiving end of a cyber attack in 2007, attributed to Russia. Estonia refrained from retaliation and NATO reacted with little more than the alliance promise to address the problem of cyber warfare. Confident in their sovereignty, newer NATO members are also confident in their relations with Russia. Most have established extensive trade links with Russia, including in the energy sector, a development which presents concerns for the West, not Moscow.

            10. Overall, NATO-Russian relations have been, until the crisis in Ukraine, largely stable. At Russia’s insistence, the alliance created the NATO-Russia Council, giving Moscow a privileged status that was sharply distinct from that of its former Warsaw Pact colleagues, which were relegated to a largely symbolic program known as ‘Partnership for Peace’. Moscow’s anger over the 1999 war in Kosovo did not prevent the alliance from successfully incorporating Russian units into the NATO-led peace implementation force there.

            11. NATO expansion has been neither an anti-Russian plot nor a means for the West to undermine Moscow. To the contrary, Russia has enjoyed mostly good relations with individual NATO member states and the alliance as a whole. Where NATO expansion has had a decidedly adverse impact is on Russia’s imperial pretensions, which are quite distinct from Russian security. In no other way, shape or form has NATO or EU expansion posed any threat to Russia except in so far as the country seeks to revive some vestige of Soviet-style domination. So sensitive is Russia to its imperial prerogatives that it was the prospect of mere EU partnership—far from EU membership and disconnected from NATO membership—that sparked the entire Ukraine crisis.

            12. By insisting that NATO expansion is a main source of Russia’s grievance with the west, alliance critics unwittingly affirm Moscow’s right to act as hegemon. Only an expansionist, hegemonic power would insist, as Russia does, on dictating the strategic orientation of its neighbors. Clearly, had the Baltic states, Poland or other former Warsaw Pact states not joined NATO, they would now be in far more difficult straits, either internally conflicted like Ukraine, authoritarian satellites of Russia like Belarus, or something in between like Armenia.

            13. *****IMPORTANT******Like these unreformed, Russian-dominated states, Russia has also fundamentally failed to reform after the collapse of the Soviet Union, which is the real reason that it has been so hard to “find a place for Russia” in the post–Cold War world.

            D13’s conclusion: (Not wearing his Colonel hat but has his Texas Stetson firmly attached).

            Assuming that the facts are correct, after the fall of the “Iron Curtain” , numerous previously Russian dominated states rushed to distance themselves from Russia and asked to join NATO…once they did, then NATO rules applied. They joined NATO not because they loved the West but they hated Russia more. It was survival. As a NATO member, it is only conclusive that the defense of NATO be recognized and that included establishing military presence. If you are drawing the conclusion that NATO is surrounding Russia…..it is probably true but it does not appear that it was done as a violation of the prior agreement in 1990. If this is the case, then Russia has no case, as far as I can see.

            Now having said this, Russia has another problem. Estonia and Belarus are seeking membership to NATO because they are afraid after the Russian takeover of Georgia and has designs on the Ukraine. Belarus and Estonia do not want this.

            Now….if you were in charge, and several previously dominated Russian states applied for membership in NATO….would you take them in? If not, why not? IF you did take them in, and being a NATO member, do you consider it your responsibility to arm it in accordance with NATO obligations? If not, why not? And finally, with the Russian government not implementing reforms, why would you trust them? Do you really believe that the hardliners that are in charge, are going to change?

            So, these are my reasons to disagree with you and I do not see any conspiracy to surround Russia with US arms for any pretense other than to protect NATO states when they join.

            The only other alternative would be to deny NATO membership to those who asked for it….to also deny EU membership to those who ask for it. If you do that, to what end does no action do….create another vacuum?

        • Yes Post iron Curtain. You are sitting down in SouthWest Mother Russia on your dascha today!

  51. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Remember one of Obama’s first comments on America, that “the US is no longer a Christian nation” This is from a guy who says that 50.1% rules so suck it up.

    70.6% of the people in the US declare themselves as some form of Christianity, which includes being Catholic or Protestant.
    Judaism 1.9%
    Islamic 0.9%
    Hinduism 0.7%
    Buddhism 0.7%
    Other religions 1.8%
    Unaffiliated 22.8%
    Not Stated 0.6%

    • It’s not a Christian nation. It is a nation with a predominantly Judaeo-Christian population. There is a distinct difference.

      The popular sentiment is to unofficially call it a Christian nation, but then treat it as if it were officially Christian, when, in reality, the separation of church and state, as well as the ‘freedom’ of religion, can be found in the US CONstipation and almost every state CONstipation.

      It is simply not a Christian nation. And to argue in favor thereof is counter-intuitive to the original Christians’ reasons for coming here. (i.e. – Plymouth)

      Trying to make it a Christian nation is not only disastrous for obvious reasons, be it that it sets a dangerous precedent with law, but also because systematic violence is completely antithetical to the message or christ or christ consciousness/spirit of christ.

      WWJD? Do you think he would approve of systematic violence?

  52. Just A Citizen says:

    • Romanticized propaganda bullshit.

      The USA is a shit hole police state with a very dark and evil history. There is nothing to be proud of or appreciate about it.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Well then, you are free to leave us in our misery. I suspect Lithuania would take you in, or maybe Switzerland, or Greece. I got it. Somalia, the land where Anarchy has come the closest to gaining a foothold.

        • No, I was born here. This is my home. I have a right to live here freely without your statist bullshit and violence encroaching on my life.

          You DO NOT have a right to organize violent government. YOU leave, and take your evil BS with you.

  53. Just A Citizen says:

    Great example of how people who have staked out a position easily fall into a trap, OR how easily they are manipulated.

    Do not discount the story, because my comment is about the story posted by HuffPo and the comments by their readers. Please take a moment, and especially read the many comments. Well as many as you can before feeling your blood pressure go through the roof.


    I will save the conclusion of my commentary for later, in order for you to read the piece offered.

    • Well, sir……well…………………ummmm……hmmmmm…errrr……….What can one say? After reading your other post above about you and I attending this college course………MAN UP!!!!!!!!

      • Just A Citizen says:


        Well here is the rest of the story. Notice how all those commenting assumed the “right wingers” were buying up the books?

        Well the real story was about a group who conducted a survey of who was buying all these newly released copies. Turns out it is the “historians” and “professors” in the secondary and Universities. The vast majority have gone to these groups with some to just regular folk trying to figure out how the Nazi thing came to power.

        It seems the book sales are being driven by those fearful that Nazi Part Deux is coming and they want to figure out how to nip it in the bud.

        Funny how Huff Po left all that off in their “summary” of the story. They got every one of their left wing lackeys to take the bait. And this is how the propaganda machine keeps producing the division and hatred we see every day. Same kind of thing you find on Info Wars.

        • Infowars appears classic controlled opposition, operation mockingbird or something. It has all the tale tale signs of such, fits the profile quite well.

          It’s all BS as far as I am concerned. There is no truth in media, or nominally so, and only so it will be believed.

          And the whole ‘fake news’ narrative is a friggin’ joke, preparatory for more control over media. The state tells people what is true. Pathetic, disgusting, 1984-ish.

          Why does anyone vote? How can anyone, after being explained the difference, still be so infinitely stupid to demand it? Does no one value being human and living in the real world?

  54. Just A Citizen says:


    Allow me to enter into your discussion over Russia, or Putin.

    I think the following article by Pat Buchanan summarizes what SK is trying to get at. Now whether we should trust Putin or not is not germane to the primary question. Who are we to start telling Putin or Russia what to do or how to behave? Given that we have been up to the same things as Putin. Of course this entire issue rests on the bigger question. What is our proper role in the world? And how should be perform that role?


    • There is no difference between Putin or Buchanan, the US, Russia or any other nation. They are all the state, all criminals, nothing but forced edicts, same difference.

      And the US’s proper role in the world does not exist. There is no role for statism anywhere in any form or capacity for anyone but the most stupid or barbaric of our species. It is all the same, all evil, and makes anything it touches a shit hole.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        There is a huge difference between Buchanan and Putin.

        All Statists are not alike. You need to get a better grip on history and modern reality.

        • Either you espouse and advocate systematic violence, or you don’t. All that other shit is irrelevant. In that regard, in principle, all statists are indeed alike.

          You can argue that this guy in this government wants force this, while that guy in that government forces that. Whatever brand or flavor of forced edicts, they are nonetheless forced edicts.

    • You are welcome to enter the discussion. I do not subscribe to any theory of telling Putin or Russia what to do…..I take great exception to the US and NATO surrounding Russia as a matter of pretense excuse. I do not buy it.

      Read my answer above to Stephen…..Now…if we are dictating to Russia/Putin…we have no reason to dictate to them.

      I do not subscribe to the “trust but verify” theory nor do I subscribe to the “surrounding” of Russia as a pretense theory. If any country wishes to join NATO…..they should. And, do not forget, I do not like NATO anyway but it is there. Like I asked above….do you deny membership because you do not want to piss off Russia? They ( Russia ) should subscribe to the theory of ” it is better to be pissed off than pissed on.”

      I hate this “kow tow” attitude out there because we do not want to upset someone’s rice bowl. Keep the friggin’ rice bowl out of my way….it won’t get stepped on nor will I go out of my way to kick it over.

      • Just A Citizen says:


        OK, then if Russia puts outposts on our southern border we have no problem with that, right? We break promises and then wonder why they act as they do.

        This is the issue, not kowtowing to Russia. We had made an agreement with the Russians. We broke that promise and started moving in areas we said we would not. We created a real problem for them on their southern border. Granted they would have eventually had it anyway, but we certainly accelerated it.

        We have been messing in Russia’s national affairs as well. So why should we be complaining?

        Just because your the biggest bad ass on the block does not mean you have to be a bully. And frankly, it seems these past 20 years or so that is just what we have been doing. Or perhaps it is just a disjointed foreign policy with no end game in mind. No matter, it appears as though we are hypocrites and sometimes bullies.

        Your response also seems in conflict with your other statements. You want the USA to be the Hegemonic power, but imply we have no business telling others they cannot join NATO. If we are to be king of the hill then we surely have the right and responsibility to act like the king in order to keep the peace.

        Has Russia given any indication it wants something more than to be treated with respect as a world power and sovereign state? Have they shown a desire to take back the east bloc or to just secure their original lands in Ukraine and secure their warm water ports?

        • JAC…..item by item. YOu have said “We broke that promise and started moving in areas we said we would not.”

          Please indicate where we moved to when we said we would not. Estonia? Poland? the Baltics States that are members of NATO or the EU?

          Have we moved to any Country or State that is not a member of NATO or the EU?

          YOu said, ” We created a real problem for them on their southern border. ” What problem?

          Look, If Mexico or Canada decided to join Russia in some sort of agreement, Russia would have every right to move whatever it wanted into those countries or States. Nukes, Tanks, Armies….planes. We would have NO say in that.

          “We have been messing in Russia’s national affairs as well. So why should we be complaining?” This is where you and I will be in total agreement…we have no business messing their internal National affairs. Just as they have no business in ours.

          “You want the USA to be the Hegemonic power, but imply we have no business telling others they cannot join NATO. If we are to be king of the hill then we surely have the right and responsibility to act like the king in order to keep the peace.” What am I missing, Sir JAC? A hedgemonic power does not need to be a policeman. Hedgemony does not mean military intervention. All of my hedgemony comments are economic related. For example, fair trade or open trade with no deficits. NATO is an alliance. We do not force anyone to join NATO and I do not think you or anyone can point to an example where we forced anyone to join NATO?

          THe promise made to Russia at the fall of the Eastern Blocs was not to put any missiles or bases in Eastern Germany. We did not and we have not. There is not one single army base, missile defense, or airfiled in Eastern Gernamy. THAT was the agreement. NATO was not even addressed because no one thought that the fallen Eastern Bloc countries would flood the west for admittance to NATO, the EU, or any alliance. So, just where is the violation?

          Or, do you subscribe to the theory that mere presence in member countries on Russia’s border is the problem. Apparently subscribe to the theory that NATO nor the EU should admit anyone who petitions?

          JAC, I would adamantly be on the side of Russia ( no matter my level of distrust ) if Canada suddenly decided it wanted to form a protection alliance with Russia or form some sort of economic alliance and asked Russia to supply troops, missiles, tanks, aircraft on the US border. We would have no right to complain nor interfer in Canada’s decision. I would not like it, as Russia does not like it, but it is Canada’s decision. I would then move whatever assets were necessary to the Canadian border.

          ” Have they shown a desire to take back the east bloc or to just secure their original lands in Ukraine and secure their warm water ports? ” Yes, in answer to your question. Are you talking about the original lands that broke off as in the past and wanted their independence? Does that mean that Mexico could have a similar position to take back Texas or California or parts of New Mexico because it was once their’s?

          Now, ask me the question……if NATO were dissolved and moved out of the European Continent, would Russia move on it……..Yes….without a doubt in my mind.

          • I think back to both Cuba and Chile. We had a problem. We also had a very old stake, the Monroe Doctrine. There is that issue also of French intervention in Mexico and German meddling in Venezuela during TR’s term. We took those things seriously.

            I know you played OPFOR, well, try to play it now!

            Napoleon, WW 1, WW2, Russia has a long memory. The eastern block states were not just about control. Poland for example has historically been a buffer.

            NATO east was a dumb idea when it was done. I will not disagree about a Russian Sphere of Influence but, they have every bit the right to that as we have. Gotta think like a Russian to understand them and know their history.

  55. I still think that you are not looking at it from the other guy’s side. I want a Russian Colonel’s opinion looking at it from behind the old Iron Curtain.

    You start by talking of the Russian “defeat”. Believe me the Russians would never use that word. I do not know exactly how you would describe what happened other than “The Fall/Collapse of Communism”. Calling it a defeat puts us in the football game mode and that is damned dangerous. You really want the Russians on the nine yard line third down?

    I don’t think Gorbachev was thinking very clearly when he decided what to let go. Any deals made with Yeltsin were deals made with a drunk.

    Common sense precludes US allowing the eastern block joining NATO not to mention private conversations between Reagan/Bush/Gorbachev.

    Everybody’s hot to trot after the Ukraine and the Ukraine is what started the talk about the new Russian expansionism yet the NATO expansion can be considered a cause of Ukrainian intervention rather than the other way around (it came first). So here we have cause-effect or the chicken and the egg.

    One of Stalin’s policies was to mix ethnic groups. It weakened majority groups. There are ethnic minorities living throughout traditional Russia. So, people got shifted all over the map. The Europeans, have a lousy history with ethnic minorities. Yes, the Germans used it in Czechoslovakia as a pretext but post war, ethnic Germans, Italians and others were run out of the countries they had been in for centuries on a rail. Many were killed. That continues right up to today in the Balkans. The Russians may use the ethnic minority thing but Ukraine was a pure strategic move.

    Nobody is complaining about the Eastern bloc nations joining the EU, the why, in these days of Muslim influx becomes very problematic. Looked good economically until they asked you to surrender the sovereignty you regained when the wall fell. Hell, even as a Soviet puppet, you maintained your Polish, Hungarian, Rumanian, etc identity and did not have to become a Muslim nation in training. NATO is a military alliance whose original avowed aim was to counter the USSR. There is no more USSR has not been for 25 years and NATO has not bothered to get around to re-defining itself yet (See Trump).

    I am pro Russian only in the sense that I see the as a natural ally against what is to come. I remember my Russian Prof in College and a very wise ROTC captain who was a mustang pointing out that while Russia has never invaded the United States, WE certainly have invaded Russia. I have a very nice baseball cap I got from the WW 1 museum in Kansas City commemorating the “Polar Bears” . Still some of “our” boys buried in their soil.

  56. My parting shot before work……just saw a news report on tv about how the crime rate in New york City is beginning to fall. When asked why it was suddenly working, the NYPD response was that thet were doing “specific policing”. When asked what that was. the NYPD said you target the specific causes of the crimes and the specific individuals that cause the crime….

    Specific policing = profiling? hmmmmm

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