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  1. gmanfortruth says:

    Interesting end to the week. Glad Gorsuch has been confirmed. 🙂

  2. EverStem13 says:

    @ Anita

    Re; The List.

    The list mostly consists of any or every participant in these stupid manipulation games, getting into my business and generally fuking with me without provocation, consultation, permission or explanation.

    If I can identify someone as a player, and they have not yet approached me directly in person in an honest forthright open clear manner to discuss their BS before they engage, they are on a shit-list.

    So far, the total number of people removed from the list for their attempt at open honest reasonable discussion and resolution is 0

    You are not on the list. If you are somehow a co-conspirator on whatever level, and I can confirm it before you can confess it, you will go on the list. Don’t get on the list. Just be honest with me, as in ethical and forthright, and preferably reasonable That is the best way to deal with me.

    • “Just be honest with me, as in ethical and forthright, and preferably reasonable”

      Here is what I have found with you. I have tried on two different occasions to deal with you in an honest and reasonable manner. But what I have found, is that because I am a Colonel and have been engaged in various combat situations, I am, therefore, a part of the problem as far as you and I are concerned. Allow me to be specific.

      Your comment to me was that since I do not renounce the actions that I have been in, I am now and forever, in your mind, a war criminal. ( your words ). That very statement that you make closes the door in your mind unless I agree with you.

      Please correct me if I am wrong.

      • Give him a couple years for the puberty hormones to level out. Until then, you’re just wasting your time trying to have an adult dialog with him.

        • EverStem13 says:

          Interesting that you mention that, Kiddo.

          How do adults normally resolve issues? How do normal peaceful reasonable mature human beings negotiate business or resolve issues?

          Typically, that starts with some kind of forthright communication. You contact someone and introduce yourself and state your business, whereby the goal is usually some kind of mutual gain or agreeable compromise, etc.

          What you don’t do is stalk them and play games with their lives. You don’t follow them around and respond to their internet conversations with bizarre proxy creepy weird shit. If you do, you at least fill them in or coordinate or something. …but you do not aggravate the piss out of them for decades with silly creepy proxy weird shit.

          Because I have people messing with me with all the creepy weird shit, I have to resort to all kinds of obscure methods of managing and responding to it. One of them is trying to communicate back to them where I suspect they are paying attention.

          I know it isn’t exactly savvy or mainstream or your idealism of maturity, looks crazy or whatever, etc etce, ….but there is a reason. It’s actually rather important.

      • EverStem13 says:

        That’s just me talking political, getting passionate about it. Statists are all criminal and terrorists by definition. I used to be one too, remember? What I am dealing with in regard to all these people playing stupid games is a different context, but does have a political element for sure.

        One of the reasons I am here posting cryptic or crazy things is because I am confident someone is paying attention. Some of what appears to be crazy or nonsensical is actually complex diagnostics and maneuvering.

        Anita made a wise-crack in reference to me talking trash and putting stalker weirdos on a list, ghosts and whatnot. She said something about being on the list. I saw it as an opportunity to clarify that it is the people playing games instead of just being honest.

        It’s not about political debates or whatever heated and invigorating discussion we may have. It’s about weirdos following me around playing games.

  3. gmanfortruth says:
  4. Canine Weapon says:

    Sometimes, life just isn’t fair.

  5. Just A Citizen says:

    Dinner last night with two friends who are big pro Trump folks. Both were happy with the Syria response. I explained why I was not so happy. That Trump needs to go to Congress to get authority for further action and should have at least cleared the response with the leadership first. They thought this unreasonable because Congress is a cluster.

    One wanted action because of Assad’s killing of his people. I asked if we should then attack others around the world who kill their people. I pointed out that while Assad might stop using gas he will still use regular weapons. Which have killed far more people.

    The other was more about the US needs to restore its leadership and show the world we will act when we say we will.

    They were both a little surprised by my comments about going to Congress. So I explained that for my entire life the people of the US have followed our leaders into one conflict after another just because they tell us it is the right thing to do. That somehow our national interest is at stake. I pointed out that We the People have never had a chance to engage in a real discussion about what our interest really is and what our proper role in the world should be. The agreed that was true and thought it would be a good idea.

    Otherwise, the political leaders get to keep using national interest, American status, and whatever other stupid meme to rationalize spending American treasure and lives in places around the world. For reasons that are suspect at best.

    The sad part was that we all agreed that due to the make up of Congress these days it will be impossible to have that discussion via our Representatives. Which is where it should occur.

    A couple other observations yesterday. One is the upswell of support for Mr. Trump because he “took decisive action”. Caused me to think about how Americans respond in these kinds of situations. On many things and in many places. It is ALWAYS about taking action. There is something about the American culture that demands “decisive action” and ” displays of strength”. Which is perhaps by Mr. Obama rubbed so many the wrong way.

    It wasn’t just politics but that he actually failed to live up to a key cultural norm among many of the people. He was popular in many regards but unpopular regarding his projection of strength. Too much thinking and not enough doing.

    The other observation was a thought I had the night of the attack but held back. Then Spousal Unit Leader shared the same thought at dinner last night. Do we want our Commander in Chief to be so vulnerable to the sight of children dying from a gas attack that he is “emotionally moved”, as many of his supporters claimed, to the point of attacking another nation? Does this not show him vulnerable to being manipulated by crazy people? Will the bad guys realize this and use it to suck him into a trap? I found it interesting that a person who acts more on the emotional side than I do would see the same thing and have the same concern.

    • JAC asks: “Do we want our Commander in Chief to be so vulnerable to the sight of children dying from a gas attack that he is “emotionally moved”,”……

      Absolutely not. There is no room for emotion in making decisions. Decisions should be made on the pros and cons of fact…..not because some dying kid has snot running out of his nose in Syria. Mathius says they are people…True they are and they live in the wrong place and it is unfortunate. But, you cannot say….we need to stay out of someone’s business militarily and then say we can interfer economically. We are either out or in….no in between…..to do so, IMO….is hypocritical.

      So…no emotion. Period, paragraph, end of sentence. Verdad?

    • JAC….yes, Americans are decisive. I am only a supporter of diplomacy if and only if there is progress. I DO NOT subscribe to the theory that it takes years of diplomatic wrangling to get to an agreement. Hog wash. All this pomp and circumstance is for the new snow flake agenda…..not REAL Americans******

      ***** I await the drubbing that is about to happen.

    • EverStem13 says:

      “So I explained that for my entire life the people of the US have followed our leaders into one conflict after another just because they tell us it is the right thing to do. That somehow our national interest is at stake. I pointed out that We the People have never had a chance to engage in a real discussion about what our interest really is and what our proper role in the world should be.”

      Your system operates with the principle element of coercion and deadly force to impose edicts that regulate or criminalize victimless behavior or basically whatever the state or those who own your politicians want. Combined with no effective or efficient means for the people to communicate and delegate to government/representatives, it produces a master/slave relationship by default.

      You hire them to force everyone’s life but cannot fire them if they don’t force it on the preferred or agreed upon terms.

      Like everything else, they force you to go along with military actions on your behalf that you don’t approve of and cannot bitch about or effectively change while it matters.

      Your best win as a constituent is to take a chance and vote for a new person who is owned by others to force everyone as per your preferred or agreed terms after the damage is done and everything is set in stone.

      While you are fighting back and forth as constituents in your futile attempts to make it right, more laws to make bigger messes and more military actions and more taxes and debt and serfdom is being stacked another layer or two high, piling up far beyond your ability to correct it, and feeding the people who own your leaders and spend your grandchildren on genocide.

      It’s a con job. The only way to correct it is by not voting or otherwise supporting it.

      • In other words…..anarchy.

        • EverStem13 says:

          Do you realize how fine of a line it is between government and Anarchy?

          Anarchy is the same level of organization, but without the principle element of forcefully regulating or criminalizing victimless behavior.

          Anarchy simply means “No Rulers” and essentially means you have a choice where a government would give you options of obey bullets or a cage.

          Anarchy says please donate to the freeway fund. Government says do it or else cage/bullet.

        • EverStem13 says:

          Your system very very much disgusts me because it quite literally and effectively forcefully prohibits being a human.

          It forcefully controls and regulates, even dictates and defines, what is human existence. When in reality, it is only forcefully prohibiting the very elemental aspects of that very existence, starting with god given free will choice.

          If I were to live in my home land and avoid anything and everything that government forcefully regulates controls or prohibits, but did not violate anyone in any way shape or form, I would eventually die, starting with the inability to access food.

          You’re all retarded serfs fuking yourselves and progeny. It’s repulsive, …mostly because because understanding the difference does not afford me the satisfaction that I can make progeny of my own because I feel ethically obligated to spare them from the slave complex shit-hole that you have all supported/demanded upon everyone.

          Abhorrent.

          • Thus your reply of calling me a retarded serf….is name calling that deserves no answer. I did not call you one single name nor infer it….your response is name calling and denegration. That was my third try. There will not be a fourth…good day sir.

            • EverStem13 says:

              I called almost every living human being on Earth a retarded serf. Would you prefer me to call you Colonel Snowflake?

              Calling you all retarded serfs is nothing compared to you all murdering and enslaving everyone with your governments. Maybe most humans really are retarded serfs.

              Actually, that isn’t fair to use the word retarded. Maybe brainwashed is more appropriate?

              I am sorry you take it so personal, Colonel. I will try not to be so blunt and passionate about my objection to your prison marble in space.

              • Just A Citizen says:

                I think it is time for you to move on. You have been given a lot of latitude but you just can’t be civil. Nobody made you come to SUFA and nobody here is involved in your percieved conspiracy. So go someplace where those supposed people are actually watching you. Because it ain’t here.

                Best wishes.

              • EverStem13 says:

                No JAC, people are definitely messing around based on information obtained from reading SUFA.

                I can explain it in very clear and concise, precise detail. I can show you evidence to substantiate it and explain some of the how and why and how it is connected to a bunch of other things, …right here and now. It would probably not be wise though, as it could have unintended consequences. I am trying to exhibit discretion as to temper my strong urge to explode.

                What I am dealing with is true and relevant, and a big deal for a lot of people. SUFA is part of it. That happened a long time ago.

                What the problem is, is that ‘they’ are not dealing with me on honest direct terms, but instead exhibiting every type of behavior indicative of stealth and what is manipulative and nefarious.

                I am repeatedly making it clear my position because they offer me no other means of communication.

                I have been tracing tracking and probing for a long time, narrowing it down, homing in, gathering information, analyzing and piecing it together, … I see. And it’s your problem too, JAC.

  6. Just A Citizen says:
    • Actually, the sinking of the Lusitania is very interesting. One wonders why, when the Germans gave warning that they would sink it……..did people go on it. The warnings were not private warnings…..why did people, of their own volition, jump on a doomed ship?

    • Thanks, one of the greatest “what if’s” ever!

      Kaiser Bill was a total ass. He had that withered arm that you see always in his pocket or on the hilt of his sword. you will also note that in pictures with his staff, NO ONE shows their right arm! That tells you everything you need to know about Germany, the Kaiser, and his General Staff . The SOB was itching for a fight. I’d love to know what Freud thought on the subject.

      The proximate cause the Austrian Arch Duke’s assassination was actually the ultimatum to Serbia which they ACCEPTED! Not good enough for kaiser Bill! Nah, he wanted his war. The French wanted Alsace and Lorraine back and probably rightfully so. The Brits could have stayed out but honored or should I say honoured their commitment to Belgium. 975,000 dead Empire troops later, they revisited the idea.

      Terrible leadership all around, an awful failure to learn the lessons of both the final years of the American Civil War regarding rifled muskets and trenches as well as the Boer war with breech loading rifles and trenches again.

      The best outcome and what Pershing wanted was Unconditional Surrender, correctly assuming the Germans would never admit defeat unless they admitted defeat. Instead Hitler and the boys could talk about a “stab in the back”. Had we had that and done what we did in Japan post war, left the Kaiser’s SON as titular head of state, I think things would have gone far better.

      Lusitania was one of those really stupid gotcha moments. Despite the fact that almost everyone knew she was carrying munitions, the sinking was just the worst possible PR move. Then they issued commemorative medals and boasted about it! Again the mentality of Kaiser Bill. A real self delusional idiot.

  7. Special note to DPM……Be aware of the shifting sand bars that Texas has learned how to create. Very ingenious method that we have devised about shifting the shallow water sand bars to circumvent the semi submerged drug subs the cartels are trying to use. Works quite well. We can apparently change the location and size of coastal sand bars by some method of dredging that forces the currents to change over night in the shallow. Shallows defined as 15 feet or less. Traps the semi subs perfectly and pisses off the sharks.

  8. “I can explain it in very clear and concise, precise detail. I can show you evidence to substantiate it and explain some of the how and why and how it is connected to a bunch of other things, …right here and now.”

    Prove it. Right here…right now….otherwise it is folly and has no meaning, sir. Innuendo and name calling is obtuse and pure romper room…..

    So, Colonel Snowflake says…..prove it or move it.

    • Nah…..never mind….it is not worth it…..you are free to post whatever you wish….this site does not ban anyone……so, do not get upset when no one….responds. I would recommend it.

    • You don’t really expect a response here, do you!?

      • No sir…….not a rational one. I will have to remember Colonel Snowflake though……that was funny. I am thinking of a patch to design to go with that…Mathius is very adept at finding things like that…..maybe I will have to ask him to find something to morph into Colonel Snowflake.

  9. gmanfortruth says:

    A true Anarchist society, as espoused by today’s Anarchist’s, is impossible. It doesn’t fall within the parameters of human nature and the natural gravitation to hierarchy. All of the silly “your a criminal” nonsense is just delusional thinking from the mind of the brainwashed who have followed the path to nowhere. It is a Utopia only in the minds of those who dismiss human nature.

  10. EverStem13 says:

    @VH

    The other day when I posted that cryptic social network thing, …when I mentioned someone code named “V”, I wasn’t talking about you. Just so you know that.

    Secondly, are you who I think you are? Please confirm.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I’m sure that V is not your cryptic companion.

    • Secondly, are you who I think you are? Please confirm.

      It’s true. VH is the last of the great Toninte of ’45 between the Illuminati and the Freemans, rendering her the de facto ruler of the entire shadow government and, irrefutably, the most powerful woman on Earth.

      She is the one who keeps the metric system supressed in America.

      She is the one who keeps Atlantis off the map.

      She is the one who holds back the electric car, and the cars which run on water, as well as the perpetual motion machines.

      She is the one who perpetuates the myth that the Earth is a sphere.

      She is the one who arranged for Trump’s rise to power.

      V.H., I’m sorry to have blown your cover like this, but it’s time the world knew, don’t you think?

      Secondly, are you who I think you are? Please confirm.

      As for me?

      Well…

      I am nobody. Who are you?
      Are you nobody, too?

      • VH…..My raptors and I are availbale for retribution, should you so desire…..they do know the way to Mathius’ home.

        Not only that, he left out one of the most important accomplishments that you have done and that is SPACE is not infinite.

        As to the who is any one…..well, I am, the I AM.

  11. Hey Buck….what is your weather like up there in June?

  12. Mathius…..I wish I were a fly on the wall in your offices or any of the investment offices in New York. The manueverings that I am seeing on the local and world stage are phenomenal in that…..all the previous indicators for following stock prices, puts and calls, and hedge funds are totally different than what everyone is used to….

    The rules have really changed and it is making everyone scratch their head. All the millenial whiz kids that have been taught the economic philosophies over the past 20 years are finding out that………………..philosophy is not worth much compared to the real world. The models are not working.

    Everyone is scared of trade wars…..none are going to happen despite the dreadful warnings coming from the media….and the futures prognosticators….the transportation isues over the world and Brexit are scratching their heads because the normal reactions are not happening….

    Meanwhile, there is a lot of money to be made if you are paying attention. This is fun and new….and the MBA’s are in a tizzy.

    • You’d be a very bored fly.

      For a measly $5mm investment, you can get our monthly newsletter that tells you basically everything you could possibly want to know about what we’re thinking.

      • Nah……..the rate of return is not worth the risks on hedge funds in today’s market*****

        *****the above comment is expressed as the opinion of D13 only and is not intended for private use or investment counseling.

        Just curious…..I have received more phone calls from New York brokers now that I have ever received in the last 20 years.

        In addition, I am seeing and listening to the pundits of all sorts trying to predict what tax cuts are going to do or where the funding of the wall is coming from and they are stuck in archaic thinking, I feel. Everyone knows that the deficit will be 400 billion this year as the last Obama deficit takes effect. Next year, the Trump innaugural budget will be out….everyone, and I mean, everyone is forecasting a 1/2 trillion deficit.

        Mark it down…………..D13 predicts that the deficit by the end of 2018…..is 200 billion and that is with the funding of parts of the wall and tax cuts. *******(see above).

        • I’ll wager a case of Dr. Pepper against a bone-in rib-eye from the D13 farm: Deficit in 2018 will be greater than 200bil.

          • Bone in rib eye eh? Ok….let us clarify the wager……

            FIRST AND FOREMOST…..real Texans have ranches, sir………..so…damn New Yorker,,,bone in rib eye…..sigh. Ok…if you wish to forego a properly prepared TBONE.

            The wager…..at the end of the 2018 fiscal year, the deficit will be 200 billion or less for the 2019 year. Verdad?

            • Just A Citizen says:

              What? Your bambling!

              FY 20018 or FY 2019 deficit?

              • Of course I am bambling ( I am still a recipient of modern Chemistry but only slightly but when combined with Dr Pepper, who knows )…..FY 2019….at the END of FY18, the deficit will be down….not the FY 2018 projection…that would be ridiculous by even my standards.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              d13thecolonel

              Still not clear.

              Before we begin, lets make sure everyone is on the same page.

              FY 17= Oct 1, 2016 to Sept. 30, 2017.
              FY 18 = Oct 1, 2017 to Sept 30, 2018.
              FY 19 = Oct 1, 2018 to Sept. 30, 2019.

              The Presidents Budget (Trump’s first budget) and the yet unapproved budget is for FY 2018.

              “at the end of FY18, the deficit will be down…” OK. Are you saying that the FY 18 deficit will be smaller than the FY 17 deficit? If not then down from what? How low?

              “FY 2019”. OK. So is it the FY 19 budget deficit you are claiming will be under 200 billion?

              • To further clarify, I expect that any significant “off balance sheet” items must be included in the calculation. No Bush-style gimmicks.

                For example, wars, disaster relieve, etc, have to be accounted for.

                Not that it’ll matter because it’s not going to be anywhere close to 200B, but what the hell.

                And, further, I’ll accept a “properly prepared TBONE” in lieu, if the good Colonel prefers.

              • FY 19….sorry, I forget that we actually have people on here that understands what a fiscal year is…….The official end of the fiscal year 2018 occurs on Sept 30, 2018…..That means I an referring to FY 19……..and to be clear I said $200 billion or less.

                Off balance sheet items……I have never seen a balance sheet reflect a budget before…but I get your drift…..I am talking budget deficit only…..what is passed by Congress.

  13. Not verified……just heard a blurb on the news that Germany and Sweden have said…..no more immigration.

    • Follow up on above…..just saw an interview with Swedish Prime Minister Lofven has said that it is now unacceptable. There are areas in Sweden that we simply cannot go into any longer because they are Muslim enclaves and extremely dangerous. He went on to say that they refuse to assimilate and are demanding seats on our councils and changes in religious applications and Sharia Law courts. He intimated that there would be deportations to bring the levels back down…..

      Cracks in the dam?

  14. Just A Citizen says:

    Mathius

    I suggest you read the following. It is not very long. It provides some of the examples I have tried to explain regarding how we got to where we are with SCOTUS nominations and partisan hacking.

    http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/04/10/democrats-behavior-towards-judicial-nominees-is-detestable/

  15. Just A Citizen says:

    While I was reading an article this morning on how global warming is affecting farming and how certain “sustainable” farming practices are being used to counter the detrimental affects, it was snowing outside. It is April 10th and it is snowing……..

    • Is that unusual up there?

      • Just A Citizen says:

        d13

        When it comes to weather there is little that is unusual up here. Except one thing. If it doesn’t rain in the springtime, meaning May and June then it is an unusually dry spring. And this usually portends a bad fire year for up here.

        This happened in 1910 and again in 2015.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          We had snow last Friday. Today its 75. There are no changes to any farming stuff. GW is ours BS. Any changes I have seen are technology based, not weather based.

  16. EverStem13 says:

    “The physician can best serve his patients by maintaining Osler’s quality of equanimity that is, by keeping his head while others around him are losing theirs.”

    http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/graphic?type=24&index=14093241&x=480&y=640

  17. Canine Weapon says:

    Since we’re unmasking people today, look who I found…

    And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

  18. Mathius…..ok properly prepared T bone it is…….bone in Rib Eye…….too many yuppies out there….too many. I will even throw in a “coal” roasted ( no, not Pennsylvania type coal )” potato….a hearty side dish of spinach or green beans, with diced jalapeno and lots O’ melted butter……..homemade black iron cooked corn bread…………………for desert, a deep dish double chocolate merengue pie, with an ice cold GOBLET of fresh milk. Ending with a 1/2 ounce shot of metzcal ( without the worm ). Kick back and enjoy a moonlit sky with ten billion stars in the sky, the Milky Way…..and four legged coyotes howling in the distance. No street lights, horns honking, etc……no chance whatsoever of being mugged ( unless it is a rousing hand of Texas Hold ’em )….stogies, if you want them ( not dipped in anything other than a fine Brandy….Cognac Courvoisier, to be exact…)

  19. I can imagine that the new Democratic Government we install in Damascus will be something close to this.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Was thinking about that the other day when hearing some NeoCon talk about the need for regime change in Syria.

  20. gmanfortruth says:

    Thanks to an astonishing 4-0 vote by the San Diego Unified School District, all public school students will be forced to endure religious classes about Islam while Muslim students are protected from bullying with designated safe spaces.

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/san-diego-schools-forcing-islamic-lessons-all-students-providing-safe-spaces-muslims

    Why do politicians make decisions that they know won’t make it through court? Or, does the separation of Church and State only apply to Christians in the minds of Liberals?

    • Christianity as well as American Democracy are the roots of all evil in the world. Surprised you didn’t know that! I would not be surprised if it passes a court muster if couched in “anti-bullying” pro diversity rhetoric. That’s what i world do if I were a lawyer for CAIR.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        It will be interesting to see how many Athiest’s come out and speak up. How many Non-profits will step up who fought to keep out Christianity? This may turn out to be good, ridding the world of hypocrits over one simple case 🙂

  21. gmanfortruth says:

    Some questions that should be considered:

    1. Do we remove Assad by force? (NO)

    2. Do we destroy North Korea’s nuclear stuff with a preemptive strike and chance another war? (NO)

    3. Why were sub hunting aircraft flying in circles off the West Coast recently? (I have no idea)

    4. Notice how the “unmasking” talk has subsided? (YES)

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  24. Just A Citizen says:

    For those who do not know what Coptic Christians are and why you here their name in the news of the Middle East so often.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Orthodox_Church_of_Alexandria

    Also, did you know that Christianity became the major religion in many North African countries long before it spread to Greece or Rome?

  25. gmanfortruth says:

    Passengers on Flight 3411 could be heard yelling at the officers in protest.

    United said it first asked for volunteers to leave the plane before telling four people to switch to another flight to make room for crew members who needed to make a flight they were operating from Louisville International Airport. After the man refused, the officers were summonsed.
    http://www.gopusa.com/?p=22936?omhide=true

    I see a major lawsuit over this and the doctor should get quite the compensation. The officers should be suspended and retrained as well.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Man told to leave the plane. He refuses. He tells the airline officials to pound sand. They call the police. He tells the police to pound sand. They remove him.

      The airline is within its contractual right to remove passengers. Nobody would leave so they used their own method of choosing four.

      So exactly what is the basis of the lawsuit? Excessive force? All they did was pull him from his seat and drag him out. How else do you remove someone who does the limp noodle on you?

      I guess they could of handcuffed him, and then used a pole to lift him off the ground and carry him out.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        I saw an interview with a lawyer on this subject. Some points he made went like this:

        The Airlines, for whatever reason, wanted to send 4 employees somewhere on this flight, even though it was booked solid. The airline could have chosen an alternative rather than forcibly removing a paying customer.

        The customer who was forcibly removed by police, didn’t commit a single crime, it was a civil issue to which the police should have done nothing.

        If the airline couldn’t find enough seats, it should be up to them to arrange for the transportation of their employees without interfering with a payed customer, who had, technically rented that seat.

        The lawyer seemed logical and the airlines were at complete fault. As the saying goes. lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. To that end, the airlines should have solved this issue without subjecting anyone to what had occurred. There were other options, like paying for tickets on another airline to transport their people. This should have NEVER led to physical violence.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Gman

          The passenger did commit a crime. You cannot refuse an airline security person order. That constitutes a crime, as I understand it, which is why the police get involved at that point.

          Again, the passenger caused the violence by refusing to adhere to the orders given. Orders, lawfully given to him.

          • Yes, the passenger was wrong. What is bothering me the most are the snowflake responses and the media. Waaaah….he was dragged down the aisle……waaaa, his lip was busted as he hit the seat in front of him……get off the damned airplane when you are told. It is that simple. Contrary to popular belief, he did not have a “RIGHT” to that seat if the airline wanted him off.

            I do not care if he had a paid seat….it would have been reimbursed at twice or even three times the price. I do not care if the convenience is a public type of transport. It is a privately owned airline….their private security said to get off….he did not…then he was removed and goes limpy rag……that is the only reason he was dragged and everybody is in an uproar….

            PUT ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS….get off the airline when told. Sheesh.*******

            *****The above rant was done free of modern chemisry with an iced Dr Pepper.

        • G man: You say “This should have NEVER led to physical violence.”

          I agree….the man that refused the order to get off created the violent situation.
          I also agree that the protocol for getting crew to additional locations can probably be changed.

          • Also, next time anyone flies….take the time to read your ticket. Read the security and fine print about it being a contract and that under the contract the airline has the authority and the right to cancel, revoke, or remove anyone from any flight for any reason. You signed that contract when you accepted it.

            • gmanfortruth says:

              From a witness, managers came on plane to get 4 people off. One volunteered to leave and take a next day flight, for 1600 bucks, manager laughed in her face. After the doctor was removed, he returned to the plane, bloody, repeating he had to get home over and over. Finally, everyone was removed, to remove him again and clean the blood up. 2 and a half hour delay. I wonder how many more people had issues with connecting flights etc? Mismanagement, plain and simple.

              CEO is now apologizing and saying it will never happen again, admitting wrong doing.

          • By going limp, he created a violent situation?

            Interesting.

            How is the use of violent force justified by someone who is in no way shape or form a threat to anyone?

            Interesting. I know a grog-swilling pirate who might take issue with that…

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Mathius

              You and your pirate friend are having trouble dealing with the specifics. Bad thinking.

              Airline has the right (authority) to ask him to leave the plane. He refuses. They call police to have him removed. HE decides he will not. They try to get him out of chair and remove him. He does the noodle. They drag him away.

              So you are going to claim that dragging him out was “violent force”, and that because he was ignoring their authority it was not justified because he was not threatening anyone else.

              By your logic, a noisy patron cannot be removed from a movie because he is not “threatening violence” against anyone.

              • That idiot, Mathius, doesn’t speak for me.

                I would need to know the details of the contract, which I have better things to do than read.

                The airline (read: its owners) and the passenger made a contract. His money in exchange for the carriage withing their flying machine on a given date and time from a given location to a given destination while sitting in an assigned seat and behaving within compliance of their stated rules and regulation. The terms of the contract are spelled out in their entirety. If it is not in the contract, then it is not agreed to and is therefore not binding.

                If the contract does not give him the right to fly under such circumstances (read: the airline wants to take the seats for use by their employees), then he has no such right. Therefore, as the plane is the property of the airline (and the ground upon which it is located is duly licenced by the airport (read the airport’s owners)), he is trespassing and may be removed by such minimal use of force as may be practicable.

                They couldn’t, for example, shoot him in the face. But if he chooses to complicate matters by going limp, the security forces, acting on behalf of the owners, have the right to remove him just as much as I would have the same right if he had refused to leave my porch.

                If the contract DID grant him the right to fly once boarded (I sincerely doubt it did), then he was well within his rights to passively refuse to be debarked. In fact, in this case, he could would have been within his rights to knock out the guards and sit back down. Though, in fairness, this was probably not a realistic solution either.

                Disclaimer: The Dread Pirate Mathius does not give a shit – not one single shit – about the applicable laws and regulations which may have been involved here. This is a contract dispute between two consenting parties. I don’t care what a bureaucrat in Washington says about such matters.

                ———-

                With all that said, the airline is incredibly stupid. They were willing to offer – last I heard – $800 / person plus a hotel room each. That is, conservatively, $3,500. This was in order to get 4 employees on a plane to a destination 4 hours away by car. Because of the trouble, they left 2 hours late, arriving at the destination about an hour later. They should have rented a car for their staff and driven where they were going. It would have cost, maybe $200, and there would be no attendant PR disaster.

              • (second attempt.. stupid filter)

                That idiot, Mathius, doesn’t speak for me.

                I would need to know the details of the contract, which I have better things to do than read.

                The airline (read: its owners) and the passenger made a contract. His money in exchange for the carriage withing their flying machine on a given date and time from a given location to a given destination while sitting in an assigned seat and behaving within compliance of their stated rules and regulation. The terms of the contract are spelled out in their entirety. If it is not in the contract, then it is not agreed to and is therefore not binding.

                If the contract does not give him the right to fly under such circumstances (read: the airline wants to take the seats for use by their employees), then he has no such right. Therefore, as the plane is the property of the airline (and the ground upon which it is located is duly licenced by the airport (read the airport’s owners)), he is trespassing and may be removed by such minimal use of force as may be practicable.

                They couldn’t, for example, shoot him in the face. But if he chooses to complicate matters by going limp, the security forces, acting on behalf of the owners, have the right to remove him just as much as I would have the same right if he had refused to leave my porch.

                If the contract DID grant him the right to fly once boarded (I sincerely doubt it did), then he was well within his rights to passively refuse to be debarked. In fact, in this case, he could would have been within his rights to knock out the guards and sit back down. Though, in fairness, this was probably not a realistic solution either.

                Disclaimer: The Dread Pirate Mathius does not give a shit – not one single shit – about the applicable laws and regulations which may have been involved here. This is a contract dispute between two consenting parties. I don’t care what a bureaucrat in Washington says about such matters.

                ———-

                With all that said, the airline is incredibly stupid. They were willing to offer – last I heard – $800 / person plus a hotel room each. That is, conservatively, $3,500. This was in order to get 4 employees on a plane to a destination 4 hours away by car. Because of the trouble, they left 2 hours late, arriving at the destination about an hour later. They should have rented a car for their staff and driven where they were going. It would have cost, maybe $200, and there would be no attendant PR disaster.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Damn, we are all wrong 😀 😀

      Actor John Cho, best known for his role as Sulu in the latest Star Trek remake, claimed US President Donald Trump was responsible for a United Airlines debacle in which a passenger was forcibly removed from an overbooked flight.

      In a Monday tweet, the actor claimed there was a “connection” between the passenger being dragged off a plane, and the “environment Trump has created.”

      See there, it’s always gonna be Trump’s fault now, just like it was bush’s back in the day.

      • That’s right up there with the “thanks Obama” nonsense where he got blamed for literally everything under the sun.

  26. gmanfortruth says:

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has claimed that the recent chemical attack in Idlib province in Syria was a false flag operation, and that more ‘provocations’ are being prepared.

    “We have reports from multiple sources that false flags like this one – and I cannot call it otherwise – are being prepared in other parts of Syria, including the southern suburbs of Damascus.” Putin said during a joint press conference with Italian President Sergio Mattarella in Moscow.

    “They plan to plant some chemicals there and accuse the Syrian government of an attack,” Putin told media representatives, adding that he has “trusted sources”.

    I have had questions on the original incident and thought it should have been investigated before any action taken. WWIII anyone?

  27. Just A Citizen says:

    Another “conservative/libertarian Republican” who does not know what Libertarian really means. This is the kind of unsettled thinking you get when people dismiss the need for rational and objective ideological thinking.

    http://www.redstate.com/slee/2017/04/11/libertarians-isnt-war/

    The easy tell about the author’s ignorance is when he claims “L”ibertarians are “isolationists”. Libertarians are the ultimate globalists. Global trade between free people, unrestricted by Govt. interference. Sure sounds isolationist to me.

  28. gmanfortruth says:

    Chinese authorities stated that the troops were merely part of medical and support units, but other observers noted that at least two of the units headed to the border included a heavy mechanized infantry unit and a rapid reaction group.

    NASDAQ reported that rumors of the Chinese troop movement caused early-day market gains to disappear almost immediately, as the market hates uncertainty, particularly surrounding potential military actions.

    While some market sectors like energy seemed to take the news as well as could be expected, other sectors like the finance industry, technology and telecommunications all engaged in a bit of a sell-off.
    Paid Content:

    Though it remained unclear exactly why Chinese troops were massing near the border with North Korea, there were a few likely explanations for the movement, the first of which being an effort to bolster the defenses of their erstwhile communist comrades in case of a U.S. attack. Along those lines, China could also be preparing not so much to defend North Korea, but to defend itself if an attack led to further escalation.

    However, they could also simply be guarding against a mass influx of starving North Korean refugees that will likely stream across the border by the millions if the regime in Pyongyang is hit hard. In that same vein, they could also be preparing to take action against North Korea to prevent a broader outbreak of hostilities, should they decide to strike out against the U.S. or a U.S. ally in the region.
    http://conservativetribune.com/china-huge-move-nk-border/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=libertyhub&utm_campaign=conservativebytedaily&utm_content=2017-04-11

    • Just A Citizen says:

      The WORLD lacks the courage and resolve to deal once and for all with China, Russia, Iran and North Korea. If they did then many of the other despots in the world would crumble.

      But they don’t. And the US does not either. Furthermore, we do not have the resources to go it alone on that many fronts.

      So absent the ability to decisively end these problems we will continue to bankrupt the nations and our children’s future by doing half hearted and half assed things from now until the Republic collapses.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        I have had some fun in the past debating conspiracies with folks. One of them is the concern that China or Russia will invade us. I always ask how are they going to get the troops and tanks here? WE control the seas and the skies around our nation. Without a logical answer, it devolves into pure fantasy.

        I don’t believe for one second that the people would support any large invasion, unless, we are hit with nukes, then all bets are off. I’m going to guess and say the China is fed up with North Korea and their nuclear issues. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If they have the capability, do you think NK will launch a nuke if attacked or heavily threatened?

      • Actually, JAC…..this can be solved very easy…..The US, right now, can take out North Korea, without fear of major retaliation, conventionally in 12 minutes. It would take about 25% of our assets. It must be a first strike however.

        Russia will do nothing militarily and neither will China…..they will scream and yell and pound the table….they cannot hurt us economically…..but they will not fire a shot. The fears of a new Korean War are not founded in reality. You will not see hundreds of thousands of Chinese troops pour across the border as you did in the first war. Remember that the Korean war never ended…it is in a cease fire.

        As a POTUS, I would take the chance and render North Korea useless right now before they perfect their delivery system and make a nuke….right now, they have none despite the media crap that says that they do.

        If anyone is interested, I can tell you how to do it because the procedure and the protocol are already in place.

        Take out North Korea……stare the Russians in the eye and use your economic prowess to keep China in line…they NEED the USA more than anybody.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          d13thecolonel

          I never said it could not be done. Except we don’t have resources if they all decided to fight and not roll over as you predict. I happen to think they might fight by creating all kinds of havoc for us in many other places. Not directly committing their arm, navy or air force.

          What I said was the world doesn’t have the guts to do what would actually end this crap for a long time. Because the world has more than enough resources to put all of the bad actors in a box.

          My tactic?? May day parade.

          On Putin, I see Tillerson starting to take the right tac. Go to his ego and the one thing he has constantly claimed he wants. RESPECT among the power brokers of the world. Isolate him by using his ego and his desire for Russian Status. Pointing out that Russia can join the world of powerful leaders or it can side with despots like Assad and Iran and N. Korea. But it cannot have it both ways.

          • I agree you never said that…I was cutting to the bottom line.

            But you did say “What I said was the world doesn’t have the guts to do what would actually end this crap for a long time. Because the world has more than enough resources to put all of the bad actors in a box.”

            I am not sure I agree with this, knowing what most countries have. Combined resources to be coordinated into a cohesive unit….with a command structure unified under a single operations order. WHEW!!!!!……..not saying that it cannot be done…but WOW!!!. Having written an operations order for a Brigade with assigned assets was difficult enough with the egos just in our structure……

            however, I think that you are quite correct with Tillerson….the way to beat the Russians is through ego.

  29. Question for anyone:

    Assad has killed over 400,000 people in the last three or four years….and we are worried about some women and kids being gassed. So, is it the manner in which they are killed bothering everyone and not the fact that they were killed?

    So, lining them up and shooting them dead is not as serious as gassing them to death?

    Sorry folks, dead is dead. It matters not how it was done…..just that it was done.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      There is no difference at all Colonel. Dead is dead. But putting supposedly injured kids on TV can sure get a response.

      • There is a difference. But both are unequivocally evil.

        • Mathius…..you have me curious….what is the difference? The method?

          • It’s hard to put down exactly, but just in terms of general humanity…

            Ordering the dispersal of gas on a civilian population is, flatly, evil.

            Order the rounding up of people, telling them they’ll be relocated and that they should pack their valuables, then putting them on trains or force-marching them to purpose-built camps. The prisoners were tattooed with numbers like cattle. Taking the able bodied and working them to death in factories to support your war effort. The others were told they’re being released – after a shower – sent into a room specially made to look like a shower (complete with fake soaps), and gassed. They were then removed on the other side by slave-workers who then searched them again for valuables including gold fillings and wedding rings. Even their hair was shaved off to make pillow stuffing. Subsequently the bodies were incinerated. That’s skipping over the medical experimentation, the starvation, etc.

            It’s evil on a different level. The amount of inhumanity required to execute one is wholly separate from the amount needed to execute the later. The end result of both is only different in scale – still many innocent lives lost – but the manner of the murder still matters, no? It’s qualitatively very different.

            It’s like the difference between Jack the Ripper and Osama bin Laden. Sure, they’re both murdering assholes, but really, there’s something very different in the way bin Laden orchestrated the a complex and deliberate murder with precision and efficiency that is very different than stabbing people in an alley.

    • You could say the same about ISIS, yet no one is complaining about going after them.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

      Granted this is an article from Wikipedia, but it is a compilization of data from many sources. Assad has not killed 400,000 people in Syria. That # is an estimate based on the high and low #’s put out by both sides of the conflict of all casualties. That said, take a look at the foreign fighters in the conflict. This is NOT a civil war in Syria, but a far more dangerous series of war related events. I guess Assad can be blamed for all the deaths because he decided to defend his country against a concerted attack instigated by the US and other parties. “Mubarrak Must Go”….”Gaddafi Must Go”…”Assad Must Go”, preceed that with “The Shah Must Go”….”Saddam Must Go”. Where has all this glorious intervention gotten everyone?. Absolutely it has turned into the biggest clusterfuck of US foreign policy I’ve seen. And that includes the naive policy that the EU has followed with their refugee policy.

      I have to ask this question…..why would these “refugees” be anything but a 5th column assult into the nations that have caused a geat deal of problems and destruction of their nations over the past many decades…….the PEOPLE of Europe have not wanted this migration even since I lived in Europe 40 years ago. Periodic viss over the years have done nothing but re-emphasize that feeling. It has been government leaders policies that are in direct opposition to the people wishes. The government has just made it illegal to object or complain, so people just keep a low profile from intimidation. Inspite of the elected officials, the UN-ELECTED EU personnel make the overriding laws. Hence “Brexit”

      Watched the Ken Burns films on the Roosevelts the other week. In it was a film clip of US soldiers in the Philippenes “waterboarding” an insurrectionist that objected to the US replacing the Spanish as occupiers….it is also interesting to note that the “rebels” were predominantly Muslim’s and that conflict still goes on even after a century.

      • Nice!

        First we fought Aguinaldo and the “insurrectionists” in the PI. Then, we fought the Moros and as you pointed out are STILL fighting them today. Yep, we waterboarded and threatened to bury their dead in pigskins. No doubt war crimes.

    • EverStem13 says:

      Everything the masses are being told about what is happening over there is BS, with the exception of whatever tid-bits of truth are necessary to spin and sell it as is advantageous to those who benefit from conflict.

      What is really happening is a broad scope long term campaign to exploit provoke or invent conflict as an excuse to invade and destroy whole civilizations, thus being rewarded with strategic gain resources and earnings of current/future Americans through a con-game economic system.

      Their overall strategy(as has been observed over and over again across at least a century) is to provoke/create an enemy and exaggerate it to your support base to instill fear whereby you are able to garner their support and therefore invade and gain all that comes with killing people and breaking things.

      I look at the whole mess and I don’t care about the details. It’s a mess that everyone is responsible for because it is all connected, and a lot of innocent people are being massacred from all sides by everyone. It is a direct reflection of just how disgusting humans really are. If I were an alien with a “Death Star”, I would exterminate us.

      That being said…

      The root issue is, as with everything else, the use of force to impose edicts that regulate or criminalize nonviolent behavior. If that element did not exist in systems of social organization called governments, dictators and superpowers couldn’t exist. All the power and tech could be in decentralized militias without states anywhere in the world, and conflicts would be fewer and not nearly of the same magnitude.

      Hundreds of thousands of tons of ordinance dropped onto and therefore annihilating entire civilizations, verses an occasional skirmish between townships over water or something?

      The real answer is for everyone to simply learn how to mind their own business, other wise look out for your fellow humans, and not hire dictators and governments to wreck the planet any more. Oddly enough, as great and simple of an idea as that is, no one gets it.

      “Retarded serfs”

  30. Thought I would provide a letter from trhe US Department of Veterans Affairs on a bill I overlooked for $25.94, dated 1/13/2017. This is the new VA under Obama that was instituted in 2013….

    ” You have a deliquent debt with the Department of Veterans Affairs for medical care and/or prescription copayment. The balance of your deliquent debt is $25.94 which may include PENALTY, INTEREST, and/or ADMINISTRATIVE FEES. If applicable, your monthly statements have notified you of your deliquent debt and communicated your options for satisfying it.

    What will happen if you ignore this letter?

    The US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) is required to collect debts owed to the government. Action must be taken within thirty (30) days to pay your debt in full or establish a payment plan for any deliquent balance sixty (60) days or older, or your account may be referred for collection action. Collection action includes referring your deliquent balance to the Department of Treasury Cross-Servicing Programs and Treasury Offset Program, which will include any offset of any Federal and state payments to which you are entitled. This includes tax refunds, social security benefits and salary or retirement benefits. In addition, the Department of Treasury may refer your account o private collection agencies, which will result in additional fees and interest being added to your account. You may also be subject to garnishment of NON-FEDERAL wages under the Treasury Administrative Wage Garnishment Program. Other collection actions include offset of any current or future VA benefits to which you may become entitled. We may also report your deliquent account to credit reporting agencies sixty (60) days from the date the charges become deliquent.

    How to avoid this action?

    Pay the debt in full. You have the right to inspect and copy records relating to the debt. You have the right to establish a payment plan as well as the right to dispute the existence and/or the amount of debt. You have the right to request a waiver and/or a compromise. You have the right to request a person hearing. Information for these requests can be found as : http://www.va.gov/healthresourcecenter. Contact the Health Resource Center (HRC) at 1-866-400-1238 for further assistance. ”

    Pay particular attention to the collection protocol, which is now the same as the Student Debt Collection Procedure institutued by the Federal Government. Also notice, how the medical benefits that were supposed to be paid to all veterans over 20 years have now become a Medicare action of co payment.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Vet’s have been getting the shaft since Korea and Nam. Eventually, the civilians in charge will go too far and things will get fixed…..

      • Vets will ALWAYS get the shaft.

        The very thought that Herbert Hoople would send US troops under the command of Douglas MacArthur with Georgie Patton in saddle to burn the Bonus Marchers Camp back in 1932 was an outrage! Then, the Republicans wondered why they lost the election!

        You missed the 1933 piece of a movie I posted in the last topic?

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Considering the problems with the VA under Obama, it can be said that those failures also had a say in the last election.

  31. gmanfortruth says:

    Katie Pavlich at Townhall reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions has taken a forceful step toward tightening immigration laws today. He announced major changes to Justice Department protocol for charging and prosecuting illegal aliens.

    “For those that continue to seek improper and illegal entry into this country, be forewarned,” said Sessions. “This is a new era. This is the Trump era. The lawlessness, the abdication of the duty to enforce our immigration laws and the catch and release practices of old are over.”

    Starting today, as Pavlich notes, “federal prosecutors are now required to consider for prosecution all of the following offenses”:

    The transportation or harboring of aliens. As you know too well, this is a booming business down here. No more. We are going to shut down and jail those who have been profiting off this lawlessness — people smuggling gang members across the border, helping convicted criminals re-enter this country and preying on those who don’t know how dangerous the journey can be.
    Further, where an alien has unlawfully entered the country, which is a misdemeanor, that alien will now be charged with a felony if they unlawfully enter or attempt enter a second time and certain aggravating circumstances are present.
    Also, aliens that illegally re-enter the country after prior removal will be referred for felony prosecution — and a priority will be given to such offenses, especially where indicators of gang affiliation, a risk to public safety or criminal history are present.
    Fourth: where possible, prosecutors are directed to charge criminal aliens with document fraud and aggravated identity theft — the latter carrying a two-year mandatory minimum sentence.

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/sessions-illegals-who-illegally-re-enter-us-will-be-charged-felony

  32. I’m sure it’ll be a topic for today, so let me offer my thoughts on Spicer’s latest idiocy: this is a non-story. It was not intended to be a holocaust denial – it was a poorly phrased and poorly framed attempt at an analogy. He wasn’t saying, as far as I can tell, that Assad is worse than Hitler, just that Assad engaged in an action that even Hitler didn’t. That action – not the “use of gas as a weapon,” but the rather the generalized use of gas against population centers. It’s an assinine banal distinction that was both tone deaf and utterly unconvincing. He shouldn’t have said it, just because saying it was a stupid and pointless thing to say, with only downside potential.

    But everyone coming out of the woodwork accusing him of holocaust denial is just milking the story for free publicity.

    —–

    That said, combined with a few other items and, notably, the failure to even mention Jews during the Holocaust remembrance day address… well… let’s just say that the Trump administration should be more careful. Once or twice is a slip-up. Much more than that, and the Jews are going to start getting antsy..

    • gmanfortruth says:

      It is a non story. Just media nonsense.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      But to be fair, gas chambers are not a weapon of war. 😀

      • I’m going to go ahead and say that Hitler was “at war” with the Jewish people, and that, as gas chambers were a weapon he deployed, that they were “weapons of war.”

        ——

        The thing with Spicer’s stupid analogy is that Hitler wasn’t trying to indiscriminately kill whole cities worth of his population – he wanted to target the “undesirables.” Dropping gas from a plane wouldn’t have suited his interests. It’s not that Assad did something even Hitler wouldn’t, it’s that Assad had a different set of goals. It’s a meaningless comparison. Why even make it?

        Should we be comparing Kim Jong un to Hitler because even Hitler didn’t develop nukes?

        Come to think of it, Hitler never engaged in cyber warfare either. That must make Putin worse that Hitler?

        It’s just stupid. Is someone giving him these talking points? Does he just open his mouth without thinking? Is he getting flustered? Does he just not give a shit? What the hell is going on?

        ——

        Gman, I think you had better check your spam traps again.. Sounds like there’s a dog stuck in them..

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Fixed the SPAM stuff.

          I was playing the semantics game in jest. Of course Spicer was in error. In his defense, he has to answer stupid questions constantly, that would confuse any one after awhile. He said he was in error, it’s time to move on…..(the Liberal media will not move on, they are in full attack mode)

        • Dale A. Albrecht says:

          Mathius…..yes they do just open their mouths and spew crap, without reading or thinking of what they are about to say.

          Hitler was most assurdly attempting to develop an atomic bomb. The famous heavy water raids and destruction of those factories by the Norwegians is a matter of history. The Japanese were very involved in the development of biological and chemical weapons in Manchuria……would Hitler have cared one iota about his place in history if they had created the A Bomb first and most assuredly used it against the allies. My guess it would have been used 1st against the Russians, then the threat of another use against the west if they did not withdraw.

        • John Wayne said it best…..ya just cant fix stupid

      • I’m going to go ahead and say that Hitler was “at war” with the Jewish people, and that, as gas chambers were a weapon he deployed, that they were “weapons of war.”

        ——-

        The thing with Spicer’s stupid analogy is that Hitler wasn’t trying to indiscriminately kill whole cities worth of his population – he wanted to target the “undesirables.” Dropping gas from a plane wouldn’t have suited his interests. It’s not that Assad did something even Hitler wouldn’t, it’s that Assad had a different set of goals. It’s a meaningless comparison. Why even make it?

        Should we be comparing Kim Jong un to Hitler because even Hitler didn’t develop nukes?

        Come to think of it, Hitler never engaged in cyber warfare either. That must make Putin worse that Hitler?

        It’s just stupid. Is someone giving him these talking points? Does he just open his mouth without thinking? Is he getting flustered? Does he just not give a shit? What the hell is going on?

        ——-

        Gman, I think you had better check your spam traps again.. Sounds like there’s a dog stuck in them..

        • Getting back to WW 1. Hitler had been gassed. He saw what gas could do. He refrained from weaponizing it in battle. Everybody had it and everybody held it in reserve. there were occasions when Italians used it in Ethiopia and the wonderful, funny, friendly Japs in China and Manchuria.

          EVERYBODY was prepared to use it if the Germans did first. One of the REALLY HUGE secrets of WW 2 was this….from Wikipedia.

          In August 1943, Roosevelt approved the shipment of chemical munitions containing mustard agent to the Mediterranean theater. On 18 November 1943 the John Harvey, commanded by Captain Elwin F. Knowles, sailed from Oran, Algeria, to Italy, carrying 2,000 M47A1 mustard gas bombs, each of which held 60–70 lb of sulfur mustard. After stopping for an inspection by an officer of the 7th Chemical Ordnance Company at Augusta, Sicily on 26 November, the John Harvey sailed through the Strait of Otranto to arrive at Bari.

          Bari was packed with ships waiting to be unloaded, and the John Harvey had to wait for several days. Captain Knowles wanted to tell the British port commander about his deadly cargo and request it be unloaded as soon as possible, but secrecy prevented him doing so.

          On 2 December 1943 German aircraft attacked Bari, killing over 1,000 people, and sinking 17 ships,[3] including the John Harvey, which was destroyed in a huge explosion, causing liquid sulfur mustard to spill into the water and a cloud of sulfur mustard vapor to blow over the city.[4]

          A total of 628 military victims were hospitalized with mustard gas symptoms, and by the end of the month, 83 of them had died. The number of civilian casualties, thought to have been even greater, could not be accurately gauged since most had left the city to seek shelter with relatives.[5]

          Details of the attack were given in a 1967 article in the US Navy journal Proceedings, and in a 1976 book by Glenn B. Infield, Disaster at Bari.[6]

          • Another fun fact, Ol’ Adolf used to have a big bushy mustache, but had to cut it down to fit under a gas mask in WWI, leading to his iconic look of the WWII era.

            • Dale A. Albrecht says:

              Wasn’t Hitler wounded and disabled by a gas attack? I may be mistaken, but the use of gas was not a weapon used exclusively by the German’s. The problem back then was the wind may shift and you gas your own troops., therefore rendering it as a seriously problematic weapon even for those that released it.

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        How so? They very effectively remove from society those deemed undesirable, unfit, and subversive from the population at large, and the use of it was a political and by any definition a tool of the war at large. Was it any less of a weapon than the massacre of the Jews and others in the “Warsaw Ghetto” Or the atrocities of what the Japanese did in Nanking, yet the world at large condemned the Chinese for retaliations against the Japanese.
        The media is a very useful propaganda tool, especially when there is some other overriding agenda by the world powers, that may or may not be openly admitted or evident. Like the deaths reported by pro islamic groups prior to the abdication of the Shah. They claimed 10’s of thousands, yet after all was said and done something like 32 had been killed in the events leading up to Carter withdrawing support from the Shah based on human rights violations. The Ayatollas have killed thousands more to stay in power, much less the millions killed in wars that were the offshoot of Khomenis call for Shia revolt’s in the neighboring countries and the removal of all the monarchies in theh region. All with the stated goal by Khomeni in the summer of ’79 was the destruction of Israel.

    • Points well taken.

      I do think though that much more attention should be given the OTHER 6,000,000.

      There is this crazy idea that Hitler was after the Jews exclusively. The modern denier almost totally rests his case on that. In addition, now that we are almost four full generations out from the events, there is a lot of “why only the Jews?” “What’s really wrong with the Jews?”, “there must be something wrong with the Jews?”Much of the Islamist propaganda picks up where the Nazis left off and is finding a home among non-Islamists if you have not noticed. So, on Holocaust remembrance day, a great deal should be made of all the “sub-humans” that Hitler tried to exterminate. If anything, I think, it casts them in a more sympathetic light these days (with a caveat that this was NOT the case for perhaps the first 40 or 50 years).

      • I do think though that much more attention should be given the OTHER 6,000,000.

        Agreed!

        There is this crazy idea that Hitler was after the Jews exclusively.

        We’re really good at PR. What can I say?

        Maybe United Airlines should hire a bunch of us?

        there is a lot of “why only the Jews?” “What’s really wrong with the Jews?”, “there must be something wrong with the Jews?”

        There is. We’re insular and exclusionary. Additionally, because of our historic focus on education and academic achievement, we’ve always achieved disproportionately to our numbers. It’s easy to look at Jews from the outside and wonder why we’re so rich, control so much, yada yada yada.

        Especially in ye olden tymes where there was a lot less information and we were even more close-nit, it’s easy to see why we’d be the outsiders. And, since political leaders are always looking for “outsiders” to be the enemy, well, there we were. Plus, of course, we love to play the victim, it just generates a self-reinforcing cycle of self-exclusion from the general society to being hated to being victimized to being more insular.

        Throw in a strong liberal bent (often skewing into socialism / communism), some general racism, very little political or military clout, and a lot of wealth that could be confiscated, and it’s easy to see why Hitler would have it in for us.

        Much of the Islamist propaganda picks up where the Nazis left off and is finding a home among non-Islamists if you have not noticed.

        I’ve noticed.

        The Jews aren’t so innocent in the whole middle-east mess. I’m not going to go so far as to say Eratz Israel is the perpetrator, but it certainly could have done a lot more to make the situation better than it did.

        So, on Holocaust remembrance day, a great deal should be made of all the “sub-humans” that Hitler tried to exterminate.

        Agreed. But does it hurt to mention the 6mm Jews? I mean, SIX MILLION. That’s a whole lot of people. We weren’t an incidental member for the “sub-human” category.

        It’s like mentioning political candidates that lost the last President and discussing Stein and Johnson, but skipping over Clinton.

        • Dale A. Albrecht says:

          If my biblical stories are remembered correctly wasn’t one of Jesus’s revolutionary transgressions commited against the “money changers” and usury. Money became evil under the christians was considered dirty and unworthy of handling by the christian powers during periods of history in Europe. The people that then were allowed to handle these transactions were the Jews, creating a fairly exclusive business domain for centuries. I’m trying to remember one of shakespeares stories which dealt with that topic and the ghettos where the Jews had to return each night and locked in by the cities. Europe has been anti semetic for what seems to be forever. Convienient scapecoats for all perceived problems. The Russians used that tool and continue long after the Nazi’s were dead and buried..

          During the 60’s I remember the teachings of the Billy Graham “crusade” was that the Jew’s killed Jesus. Even Carter emphazied that during an interview in the 70’s. All of our political action for decades has been to undermine the Israeli State, but yet appear to not be doing so. Very quickly after the creation if the Jewish State after WWII by the UN out of collective guilt, they quickly reversed course and have done nothing but undermine Israels existance.

          • You are correct, sir.

            Jesus’ cleaning of the temple (read: chasing money lenders with whips and flipping over tables) is Jesus’ sole act of violence. As a result, all banking was relegated to the Jews as both the Christians AND the Muslims had a prohibition against usury (and, by extension, any sort of banking.. though they did sometime get rather creative to get around this). The result was an enormous concentration of wealth in the hands of the Jews – and a general hostility toward them.

            I am familiar with the Jews killed Jesus trope, which, conveniently, forgets that (A) Jesus knowingly allowed it to happen, thus tacitly condoned it and that (B) Jesus was a Jew. You’d be surprised (or maybe you wouldn’t!) how uncommon knowledge of that later item is.

            I was once at a wedding full of rural Pennsylvanian bible-thumping Christians. My wife (then girlfriend) and I were the only non-Christians present and the bride had informed her friends of this fact. The friends kept giving us odd looks and eventually, I had to ask why they kept looking at us like that. One of the girls, rather shyly, piped up “it’s just that ::bride:: told us you were a Jew.. what exactly is a Jew?” All conversation at the table stopped and everyone turned toward me – apparently, this was a question they’d all had and were eager to learn the answer (I guess no one had thought to check the internet). After I’d picked up my chin off the floor, and my wife kicked me – hard – to make me stay polite, I answered “you know that guy Jesus?” “oh, yes, yes, we love Jesus, our lord and personal savior!” “Well, Jesus was a Jew.” Well, now it was their turn to pick their chins off the floor. Several balked that, no, Jesus was a good Catholic. fortunately, this being a rather religious event, there were several priests wandering around – I flagged one of them down and had him explain it. Needless to say, I thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing.

            • Dale A. Albrecht says:

              I absolutely know that Jesus was a Jew. Also a Rabbi if my memory serves me still. Christianity was created by 12 PR guys called apostles.

              Is it true to be a fully ordained Rabbi has got to be married. You can be single but will be only a junior apprentice. .

          • Every year I listen to “The Passion” at Palm Sunday services. Sometimes I even pay attention . What has always gotten to me is the line where Pilate washes his hands of the blood of Jesus.The crowd then yells, “let his blood be upon our hands and that of our children and children’s children.”

            Now as Matt mentions and was repeatedly drilled home to me by my Christian Brothers teachers in grammar and high school, 1950’s and 1960’s. In the very same gospel, Jesus says how he MUST allow what is happening to him. He could , “call upon an Army of Angels” if he chose. Those very same teachers taught that the guilt was not on all Jews, there were factions that wanted him dead, there were the supporters of those factions and there were the rest who had no power to stop any of this. The “blood on our hands folks” were a very small group.

            I always remember Brother Cronin telling us in his strong Brooklynese accent, “How could you blame the Jews who never even met him?” He also went on about, even the Jews who met Jesus did not necessarily abandon their religion which actually makes a whole lot of sense.

            • I’d also point out that, if Cain is any indicator, bloodline guilt expires after seven generations.

        • A lot of what you say is absolutely true and much of it is because of the “we may have to get out of town in a hurry” mentality. Which historically is fully warranted. So, it does not hurt to be educated, indispensable, wealthy enough to buy your way out if you have to.

          With the exception of the United States, all the societies that have welcomed the Jews have eventually turned on them to a greater or lesser extent. Growing up in the Heights in the 1950’s I met a whole lot of German Jews who had been very loyal Germans. Many had served in WW 1 and held decorations from that war. I will never forget Mrs. Lily Belitz, an Austrian Jew who bailed at the time of the Anschuss. She was a tenant in a building in the Heights that my Agency worked with when the owner abandoned it. Born in the late 19th Century, she was university educated prior to WW 1 in Vienna, a true cosmopolitan Austrian. She had a very interesting opinion of German Jews. I will try to quote her correctly, “The problem with German Jews and the reason they are so disliked here in America is not their Jewishness, it is their Germanness.” This was very interesting food for thought when I was in my thirties. After that I started paying attention to the differences between the German, Czech, and Austrian Jews in the neighborhood and yep, she was absolutely right about the German thing. All well educated and successful in their adopted home, the US, yet the ones from Germany had the very same attitude I saw in non-Jewish Germans I met over the years.

          It is a terrible thing to say but by their sacrifice, the German Jews, they saved the rest of the world. Had Hitler been “normal” and used them as fellow citizens they would probably have been the “edge” he needed for victory. Think, several hundred thousand more troops and not wasting the resources on rounding them up and exterminating them. Would have taken him right into Moscow before the winter. Check and mate, game over!

          • Had Hitler been “normal” and used them as fellow citizens they would probably have been the “edge” he needed for victory.

            Ain’t that the truth. We’d all be speaking German right about now.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              No way Jose’.

              Hitler and those that followed could never have controlled the rest of the world. Simply spread to thin.

              For the record, Germans are the largest nationality group in the USA, still. There arrival coincides with the increased attention and support for “socialism”. The second greatest event in this turn towards “socialism” came when women got the vote.

              • Hitler and those that followed could never have controlled the rest of the world. Simply spread to thin.

                There might not have been much left to “control.” I somehow doubt he would have been as.. judicious.. about using nukes as we were.

              • The “fellow travelers” would have helped.

              • Actually there were plenty of fellow travelers willing to lend a hand. Look up the German-American Bund rallies in NYC prior to the war. Norway had their Quislings, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania had their SS contingents as did the French .

            • The fellow travelers would have risen to the moment.

    • John Wayne said it best….”Ya can’t fix stupid.”

  33. Canine Weapon says:
  34. Gman, check your spam traps – I’m having a tough time today…

  35. Just A Citizen says:

    Watch all the “progressive” companies scramble to get their piece of Big Govt. protection for their turf. Net neutrality……… what an oxymoron. There is nothing neutral about intervening in the market place to force one company to adhere to the desires of other companies.

    Big Internet Firms to Oppose GOP Plans to Roll Back Net-Neutrality Rules
    The Internet Association trade group has told the Federal Communications Commission chairman that the Obama-era rules are ‘vital’ to a ‘free and open internet’

    For those who don’t know, this is the likes of Google, Netflix etc. arguing that they want the Govt. to force the internet service providers to provide the equal access at the same charge. Remember, the ISP’s wanted to charge more for those who ate up most of the band width, like Netflix.

    • There are serious concerns over net neutrality. More than just charging more for eating more bandwidth.

      Envision this future: Netflix has paid $1b to Comcast. As a result, Comcast speeds up the pipeline for Netflix to its customers, but causes Hulu to lag. Customers who want to use Hulu can pay a for an enhanced package that includes faster access to Hulu.

      Fast forward a few years, and you’re signing up for packages of sites you want to be able to visit in a timely manner. And now, the little guy (such as me – I maintain a website as well) can’t gain market share because they can’t afford to pay the gatekeepers for access to the pipelines. Only “Premium” subscribers with the “Total Internet Platinum Package Plus” will be able to visit my site (without waiting 5 minutes for it to load). But the big guys will have access on the standard packages.

      The general problem is that ISP’s are common carriers. They can’t discriminate over the endpoints or it screws everyone (except, of course, the ISP’s themselves). Now, if you want to make the suggestion that the ISP’s should sell limited bandwidth packages to end consumers, or that they should throttle high bandwidth users, I’d have no issue with that. That’s perfectly reasonable. But unless I have a free and competitive marketplace for ISP’s (I don’t!), they should have to act like a common carrier.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Mathius

        Yes, those who want Govt. to give them stuff are concerned. As they always are when life doesn’t comply with their demands.

        How can an ISP be a common carrier when there are several ISP’s available in many many markets. Are not the common carriers the phone companies who were FORCED to give the internet companies access to their lines?

        I say let the Free Market deal with the internet. Get the Govt. out of it. Any attempt to regulate it to protect the little guy will inevitably reduce competition and create larger and more monopolistic companies who run the thing.

  36. Interesting blurb just on the news…..Now, whatever an informed source is…..CNN reports that China has sent a very stern message to North Vietnam……if you provoke war with the United States, do not expect us to step in……

    China has started moving some of the 150,000 troops on the North Korean border…….back.

  37. Ya know, I was talking to some surgeons today and the subject was what profession is the easiest to operate on…..One, from New York, said he liked accountants because when you open them up, everything iside is numbered. Another one, from California, said he preferred electricians because everything inside was color coded. The third surgeon from Illinois liked librarians because everything was in alphabetical order and the fourth surgeon, from New Jersey, said he preferred contstruction workers because they always understand when you have a few parts left over…..

    Not to be outdone, the surgeon from Texas said he preferred politicians as the easiest to work on…..There are no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains, and no spine. PLUS, he said….the head and ass are interchangeable.

    Not to be out done, the

    • If that does not make JAC squirt coffee outta his nose……………..nothing will.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        It did……… You and Mathius have combined for full affect this AM.

        By the way, how are you feeling today? Still lying down or can you get up and move around at your leisure?

        Give your wife my best. I am sure she needs it by now! 🙂

  38. gmanfortruth says:

    Stuff being talked about in the conspiracy world:

    Syrian chem attack launched from Saudi……………US intelligence source

    WW3 starts tomorrow………….NK orders evacuation of Capital City….NK plans to launch first strike Thursday.

    Trump says “nobody believes Susan Rice” Proof that a politician can tell the truth 🙂

  39. Just announced, we accidentally killed some Syrian Freedom Fighters. Surprised we did not blame it on the Russians.

  40. Just A Citizen says:

    LOL. Poor rookie mistake. Although technically wrong he has a very good point. Of course those who would hate him for any reason have used this to pile on.

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article144264444.html#fmp

    P.S. When I worked for the Govt. a citizen would occasionally pull this “I pay your salary” BS as if it is some kind of trump card requiring me to do what they want. I had figured out the math once before so when they did this I would hand them a penny and tell them I was paying them back, since they weren’t going to get what they wanted. I also made the point that I was “rounding up” to their benefit, “just to be more than fair”.

    • Notice the increase in “brownshirt” tactics being used by the other side. Before Bill O’Reilly says “everybody does it”, does anyone remember the conservative/libertarian side ever doing this?

      • Just A Citizen says:

        SK

        Yes! Sending hecklers to a political rally of the opposition has been around for a while. Not all the people screaming at these town halls are bused in. They are locals. Just that they are mostly Democrats screaming at Republicans.

        • Actually I am referring to the shouting/shutting down. hecklers are as American as Apple pie but these guys want to disrupt.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            SK

            I witnessed three of these events since Jan 1st. In each case they didn’t want to shut down the meeting. They are trying to intimidate the elected officials into doing what they want. They somehow think that yelling and them and making demands will change the official’s mind.

            Let us not forget how the “Tea Party” mobilized people to do the same at Town Halls when the ACA was being developed along with Stimulus and Son of Stimulus.

  41. Just A Citizen says:

    The Russian and Syrian claims that Assad did not use Chem weapons is nothing but pure BS. It is so sad to see how many people are falling for this propaganda. Just like the same propaganda claiming the US was responsible for the Ukraine uprising against its Russian puppet. Or that the US CREATED ISIS as a deliberate effort.

    Russian diplomats called for an “investigation” while Tillerson was meeting with Putin on Tuesday. Then the Russians VETOED a UN Resolution that called for an investigation and cooperation of Assad with UN inspectors.

    I will revers my view when someone provides actual PROOF that the intelligence agencies LIED about the radar tracking of Syrian planes over the area and the new info. or having “conversations” recorded of Syrian officials discussing the Chem weapon attack just prior to it happening.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I haven’t seen anything legitimate that would suggest the chemicals were on the ground in storage. If it were Sarin gas, it is easily stored as it’s binary chemicals that needs mixed to work. About the only thing going for the conspiracy theorists is that the move by Assad to use chemicals was really stupid, which is quite true.

      We dropped a MOAB in Afghanistan today, it’s now being reported. There is a new Sheriff in town and he means business.

    • OK on two out of three. We did (with the Germans) topple a legit government in Ukraine which was the proximate cause of the Russian intervention in Crimea. If you were them, you would have done it too. It was foolish of Gorbachev NOT to take it back when he granted Ukrainian independence.

      In my humble opinion it was an early step in ending Russian access to the Black Sea as well as NATOizing the Ukraine against a non-existant USSR who was NOT threatening the Ukraine before our Coup. .

      • Just A Citizen says:

        SK

        We DID NOT TOPPLE the govt. in Ukraine. The idiot leader of Ukraine got himself toppled.

        Try checking out the many pieces written by Ukrainians who were there. I read several a couple weeks back. All talked about the corruption and brutal “Russian tactics” they guy was employing. How he and his minions had destroyed the hopes of the original revolution. His people turned on him. At least enough to force the issue.

        Just because we and Germany were willing to meet with the opposition and expressed support is not the same as actively ‘toppling” a leader. No more than Russia playing around in our media is them “hacking an election”. We probably did less than that in Ukraine.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          There was plenty of money floating around supporting the folks who finally toppled the Ukrainian government, but you are correct, he mostly did it himself. Victory Nuland was a big part of things, from the beginning. The US had invested 5 billion or so in Ukraine and there are expected returns. The pro Russian leader was doomed politically. The US and other players had skin in the game. Now they have a US puppet, gee, wonder how that happened? 🙂

          • I’m with you G. I am tired of all the “after the fact” reports on “he is corrupt”. Like everybody over there isn’t? We green lighted it, the same way we have been doing since Viet-nam at least and basically held out barrel fulls of money.

            The Krauts want the Ukraine desperately, they have ALWAYS wanted the Ukraine.

            I am amazed to this day that less that three decades since the former eastern Bloc and specifically Russia including all its former parts, have been “free” people expect them to be models of 21st century democracy. Russia today is where we, the United States were in Jackson’s Administration. That, was no model of democracy.

  42. gmanfortruth says:

    Doctor dragged from plane suffered a concussion, broken nose and lost two front teeth. Now we know why he went limp.

    http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/04/13/united-incident-added-to-long-list-passenger-complaints.html

  43. Just A Citizen says:

    ROTFLMAO

    When I saw the ad I couldn’t believe the PC social justice warriors were having a conniption fit. Turns out that not only was I right, but the audience that was supposed to be offended was not offended at all. Pepsi now has a real problem. An ad that did what it hoped, that they pulled for “overreach” and “insensitivity” because of a few dip sticks. Do they release it again and pretend they didn’t faint? Or do they keep their head down and pretend they didn’t really succeed after all? There comes a time in every man’s life where he has to stand up for what is right. Someone should find such a Man to run Pepsi. Maybe Carly Fiorina would like a new gig.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kendall-jenner-pepsi-ad-poll_us_58ef7b41e4b0b9e98489ccd6?j07&

    • Its what they get fornot drinking Dr Pepper……

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Bwahahahahaha…………….. Translation…………Arrrrrrrgh!

        In the United States, Dr Pepper Snapple Group does not have a complete network of bottlers and distributors, so the drink is sometimes bottled under contract by Coca-Cola or Pepsi bottlers. Prior to the initial Cadbury Schweppes investment-turned-buyout, 30% of Dr Pepper/Seven Up products were produced and distributed by Pepsi bottlers, and another 30% by Coca-Cola bottlers. The remaining 40% were produced and distributed by independent bottlers (mainly consisting of Dr Pepper/Seven Up premerger regional bottlers) and the Dr Pepper/Seven Up Bottling Group. Currently, the majority of Pepsi and Coke bottlers bottling Dr Pepper are owned by PepsiCo and The Coca-Cola Company after their buyouts of their major bottlers.

        • Now look up Dublin Dr Pepper

          • Just A Citizen says:

            d13

            Actually, the article I clipped a portion of discusses all the varieties over the years and those made today, including Dublin. Interesting is that Pepsi and Coca Cola have all the international rights to bottle Dr. Pepper and due to other nation’s requirements they all use real sugar. It did not say where the sugar comes from, however. Given that much of this is Europe I expect it is from sugar beets. The Asian markets might use cane sugar.

        • The same international combine that owns Dr. pepper owns Hires Root Beer. This was one of the best Root beers around and they have basically tanked the stuff. Bottling is now done in the Carolina’s and it is not really available anywhere else.

          • Ahhhhhhhhhhhh……Hires…used to be a great root beer. Dr Pepper was the same….made with cane sugar. Now it is made with High Fructose Corn Syrup…and it really sucks. Dublin was making it with sugar beets and cane sugar but have been forced to stop because of this frigging sugar agreement with France.

  44. MOAB…..hah…the outgrowth of the old Daisy Cutter…..nothing new,,,,just more powerful.

  45. EverStem13 says:

    I am tired of being fuct with. And I want to know what really happened to my friend.

  46. gmanfortruth says:

    Just when you think Salon can’t sink lower in credibility and political ignorance, it posts a video which lists five reasons Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters should be our next President.
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/salon-maxine-waters-should-be-our-next-president

    The liberal media in a nutshell.

  47. gmanfortruth says:

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/michigan-doctor-accused-performing-female-genital-mutilation-young-girls

    This is about some 7 year old girls, one being brought in from Minnesota. It is obviously a Muslim thing and should be dealt with….how? Jail? Permanent deportation and loss of citizenship? All of the above? More? But first, a trial, as is appropriate.

  48. gmanfortruth says:

    t is being reported by The Washington Times that former IRS senior executive Lois Lerner requested a judge permanently seal the court records which describe her hands-on role in targeting Tea Party and conservative groups.

    Lerner claims she is concerned she may receive more death threats if the upcoming depositions are made public, telling the judge her family has been harassed enough already.

    The lawyer representing Lerner sent the request to Judge Michael R. Barret, stating, “Ms. Lerner and Paz have demonstrated that the public dissemination of their deposition testimony would expose them and their families to harassment and a credible risk of violence and physical harm.”

    The class action lawsuit against Lerner and Holly Paz, also complicit in the scandal, includes hundreds of the groups that were targeted. These conservative and Tea Party groups were seeking tax-exempt status from the IRS but instead experienced long delays for their applications to be approved or had them denied altogether. At the same time, other non-conservative political groups, including a Satanist group, were fast-tracked.

    So far, no one has been held accountable for this criminal corruption even though Lerner obviously knows she’s guilty and doesn’t want anyone finding out.

  49. Just A Citizen says:

    Keep this in mind as you start seeing the “I no longer support Trump” meme spreading across the media and on tv advertisements.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/politics/donald-trump-democrats-2018-american-bridge/index.html

    Also note how shallow the support was with the one example CNN used. The father who lost his son has turned against Trump because he broke his promise to deal with the opioid epidemic. We are not even 100 days into the new term, all the needed Cabinet positions are not filled and this guy is claiming Trump went back on his word.

    With of course, no explanation of how exactly he went back on his word.

    • He hired Christie for God’s sake! He will probably be the national co-ordinator and I think he has a personal grudge on the drug thing.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        As long as there continues to be more jobs and immigration laws are enforced, the rest is all liberal nonsense. NATO changed because there is real leadership now. If China behaves, that’s a win. Much to do, but it’s early.

        CNN is a liberal rag and a joke of a media organization. I don’t bother wasting my time with them.

  50. Just A Citizen says:

    d13thecolonel

    Good morning Sir. I hope your brain, eyes and fingers are working in sync this morning.

    Question on NK Nukes. You have said many times that NK does not actually have nukes. Yet the media has many times reported “nuclear tests” which they say was reported by either State or Defense Dept. sources. I see several reports from various sources that talk about NK “accelerating” their nuclear development in the past 8 years.

    Now we get reports of potential action against NK all due to its nuclear program. Not just its missile testing. After all, why should we freak out about missile tests if they have no nukes to put with them.

    Why would the Chinese be so accommodating, or at least expressing concern to NK about flaunting their nuclear ambitions if they had no nukes.

    So can you please reconcile this apparent conflict in information? Can you explain what you know of NK’s nuclear program?

    Can you explain why, if NK has no nukes, the Def. Dept. doesn’t just say so and put all the “crisis” freaking out to rest?

    • Last question first, sir. The Democratic mantra….never let a crises go away.

      What I said was and still say, North Korea has NO NUKES. They are testing and they are trying to make one….but they are about two maybe three years away from a “low yield”.

      Their missile delivery system is what they are trying to work on….they have reconverted FROG’s that the have been able to place different boosters on,,,,,,but no guidance system that has pin point accuracy. Everything they have fired so far is a 100 mile wide target in the ocean.

      In addition, their missile system, so far, is subsonic and has no atmospheric capability. Also, they have no guidance system capable of inter-continental travel much less re-entry. That said, they are still trying to develop one but they do not have the technology as yet.

      They do, however, have substantial stocks of nerve agents and chemical weapons that can be delivered with FROG’s and FROG components. That is probably the main worrry…..FROGS can reach the South Korean peninsula pretty easily and deploy chemical weapons.

      North Korea has displayed two other long-range ballistic missiles, the KN-08 and KN-14, which it claims have the ability to deliver nuclear weapons to U.S. territory, but thus far these missiles have not been flight tested. Taepodong-2 is another missile system that is capable of a delivery of high explosives but the range is only 4 – 10,000 KM. But, again, no pin point accuracy.

      AS to China…….China is perfectly happy with North Korea and its development of Scuds or FROGs as it keeps the South and Japan in check.,,,but the military is convinced that China does not want an inter Continental nuclear North Korea. That poses a threat to China. North Korea is a long term step child but China is also getting a little wary. A long range developed missile system could also hit the Russian border.

      You did not mention it but I will. North Korea has a couple of submarines that can launch a very rudimentary type of rocket with a range of 400 km….no more. They do not have a nuclear navy.

      Now, as to the strategy of the US. I think a lot of it is getting way over blown in the press trying to depict Trump as a war monger. North Korea has been getting away with Internaional blackmail for a long time….it is probably time to stop it. I think that Trump made the right move so far…..but here is the issue….

      Do we want a true nuclear North Korea? That is the question. I do not think that the world leaders have the balls to stand up to them….I think that Trump uses trade with China to keep North Korea in check….that is not how I would do it. The D13 way would be pre-emptive. But to cripple their nuke research, you would have to render the DMZ and the forces behind it useless….in other words, you cannot leave North Korea with any fangs at all and that means taking out the conventional weaponry which can be done in about 12 minutes.

      Now remember, the last so called nuclear experiment that was conducted under ground did not display the radiation that a true nuclear explosion would have. There was a lot of dynamite and some low yield radiation.

  51. Just A Citizen says:

    Like Rumsfeld said, it is going to take decades to get the job done. My money says the US once again ABANDONS those we promised so much. And once AGAIN we make adversaries out of potential friends.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/opinions/why-mother-of-all-bombs-and-why-now-bergen/index.html

    P.S. This is why we should not be mucking around with others affairs and trying to rebuild or build new nations. We don’t have the will power to stick it out. Let alone we have no business doing it in the first place. Translation: There is no such thing as half pregnant.

  52. Stayed up to about 2AM last night to watch the re-broadcast on C-span of the WW 1 commemoration on the 6th at KC’s Liberty Memorial.

    Generally pretty awful with a few very high points. Funny how trying to make us, in modern times relevant to an event like that fails miserably.

    However at about 55:10 on the tape there is this mezzo-soprano, Samantha Gossard who does a spirited rendition of, “If he can fight like he can love”. A song I’ve never heard before but, I am now, sigh, In Love! What a voice.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?426453-1/world-war-100th-anniversary-ceremony

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