It’s Time To Profile

terror11After the recent Terror attack in politically correct England, it’s long past time to actually do something proactive about the known wolves who are on the verge of a slaughter of innocents at any moment.  While the most logical way to stop these acts is to round up the whole lot of the Muslim’s and ship them out, it’s also the least feasible.  That leaves a few other ideas that I have conjured up.  Profile, profile, profile.  That will be most effective at stopping attacks here.  Arrest and convict.  The punishment should of course fit the crime and send a message.  Prior to going to prison, a public bath in pig’s blood, shown live on television.  A diet of pork and only pork for the first 5 years of the prison sentence.  Placement in the gay sections of the prison population.  If they don’t like pig blood baths, pork or gay’s, then don’t come here and plan a terrorist attack or carry one out.   Fear works both ways.

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  1. gmanfortruth says:

    It’s also time to put an end to political correctness 👿

  2. Mathius says:

    While the most logical way to stop these acts is to round up the whole lot of the Muslim’s and ship them out, it’s also the least feasible.

    That’s probably the worst possible solution.

  3. Mathius says:

    That leaves a few other ideas that I have conjured up. Profile, profile, profile.

    How’s that? You look middle eastern, time for your pat down?

    I can’t see that being (A) ineffective or (B) counterproductive. No, sir.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Then we should just keep the ineffective and unproductive practices at airports of groping teenage redheads and old ladies in wheelchairs.

      Profiling doesn’t have to be overt, it can be covert. They spy on us anyway, let’s make their time more practical.

      • Mathius says:

        How ’bout we stop groping everyone and file “idiots blowing themselves up” under “shit happens”?

        Terrorism is a rounding error in terms of mortality rates for Americans.

        Do we force people to go through cancer screenings? Do we stop people from over eating when they’re obese?

        Hell, we don’t even take away drivers’ licences from the elderly when they’re blind as a bat and have the reflexes of a comatose sloth.

        Shit. Happens.

        Don’t like the risks of flying? Don’t fly.

        But “I’m afraid of Person X” does not create an imposition on Person X. It’s your problem, not theirs.

        “I’m afraid of guns” does not justify taking away your guns, does it?

        Of course not – it’s my problem, not yours.

        So why does your fear mean that someone else has to get cavity searched?

        If your fear is so overwhelming that you can’t risk the 0.0000000001% chance of being killed by a terrorist, then you should just lock yourself in your survival bunker. Your fear does not give you standing to impose on otherwise innocent people.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Using risk of occurrence as proof against doing something to reduce risk is idiotic. The existing risk does not exist absent ongoing efforts to reduce that risk.

          What would the risk be if we just stopped spending any effort at all????

  4. Mathius says:

    That will be most effective at stopping attacks here.

    Hogwash.

    You cannot stop attacks once the people have been radicalized.

    A man willing to exchange his life to kill his enemy is going to do so.

    Your only hope to stop more attacks is to prevent the radicalization in the first place.

    And that means reaching out to the Muslims, to the moderates, building bridges, and making sure they understand we are not enemies of Muslims, but of extremists.

    Remember a while back when the FBI sent in some under cover agents to a mosque to try to embed with extremists (this was under Bush II). Remember what happened? The Muslims of the mosque reported them to the FBI as potential extremists.

    The only thing profiling is going to do is piss off the moderate Muslims and push any borderline individuals over the edge. It will mean reduced cooperation from the community we most depend on for salient intelligence, and easier recruiting for extremists.

    I get it – you want to do.. something – and you want it to look and feel like you’re doing something. Like the government is acting and taking the threat seriously. But this isn’t the answer.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I see how well welcoming then with open arms in Europe is working out so well. Love ain’t working Bro, not even close. The so called moderates have had plenty of time, their methods ain’t working out so well.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I get it – you want to do.. something –

      Something practical like profiling, yes. It works and it’s effective. You don’t hear the Colonel talking about the Japanese being a problem with illegal immigration. It’s easy, can be done covertly and works.

  5. Mathius says:

    The punishment should of course fit the crime and send a message. Prior to going to prison, a public bath in pig’s blood, shown live on television. A diet of pork and only pork for the first 5 years of the prison sentence. Placement in the gay sections of the prison population. If they don’t like pig blood baths, pork or gay’s, then don’t come here and plan a terrorist attack or carry one out. Fear works both ways.

    I shouldn’t even dignify this. I’m going to interpret this as an attempt at humorous hyperbole.

    (A) This would be horrifically unconstitutional.
    (B) Not everyone convicted is guilty, and this would not be a reversible error.
    (C) Putting that aside, this wouldn’t actually be haram (prohibited) under Islam. Islam specifically permits eating of non-halaal food in an emergency or when tricked so long as, when possible, the Muslim is aware of his actions and has made a deliberate and conscious choice. The same goes for prayers – it is acceptable to miss prayers so long as, at the time, you think about it and make a determination that it is not feasible to do so. The bigger sin is “forgetting” the commandments of Allah, not in finding them impossible to obey at any given moment. Judaism makes much the same distinction – there were plenty of stories of the Nazis force-feeding pork to rabbis, but it was no crime for the rabbis – the sin was on the Nazis.
    (D) The evilness of this would just make it all that much easier to recruit more extremists.
    (E) We are better than this. Just because our enemies behave like savages does not mean we should stoop to their level. We are better than this, and if we are not, how are we any different than them?

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Humor, yes. But historically it has worked in the past. You can’t build a bridge with barbarians, you are just letting barbarians in your house.

      • Mathius says:

        You can’t build a bridge with barbarians, you are just letting barbarians in your house.

        Maybe.

        But I am damned sure that you can’t subjugate a population and expect them to become less radical.

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        If I remember correctly, the British in India, stopped a war between the Hindu’s and Muslims by “leaking” the cartridges one side was using had been waterproofed in pig fat and the other side the cartridges were dipped in beef fat……worked well.

  6. Matt your approach is that of the typical European appeaser. They have been doing it for centuries. It does not work. Surveys show that large numbers of Muslims in the west support Sharia and the jihadists. The objective of the jhadists is to kill or convert you. There is no in between. They are now colonizing Europe and have started to colonize the US. It is time to stop being stupid.

    I would deport the entire family of any jhadi caught in a western country. If a non-muslim were caught in the ME doing the things they do here, the entire family would be killed.

    Gman is right, profile. To do otherwise is to waste our resources.

    • Mathius says:

      I would deport the entire family of any jhadi caught in a western country.

      What the hell did they do?

      Unless you can convict them of a crime (say, conspiracy), you’re punishing innocent people.

      Worse, you’re punishing victims. They, after all, have lost a family member, too. The bomber’s hypothetical 5-year old son didn’t do anything – he just misses his daddy. And you’d compound that by shipping him off to another part of the world where he doesn’t even speak the language?

      If a non-muslim were caught in the ME doing the things they do here, the entire family would be killed.

      I know we’ve been over this before, but let’s try it again: bad behavior in others does not justify bad behavior in ourselves.

      I don’t tolerate this logic from my 4-year old. I sure as hell am not going to tolerate it from you.

      Just because someone else misbehaves does not give you the right to misbehave. “He did it, too” is not a justification. It doesn’t work for my kids. It doesn’t work for Trump/Clinton. It doesn’t work for you and the nations of the middle east.

      If you’re going to live your life by the standards of “I can do anything, so long as someone else has done it,” you might as well have no rules, ethics, or moral structure whatsoever.

      We are better than that. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

      And if we aren’t better than that, if we don’t hold ourselves to a higher standard, then why do we deserve to “win” in the fist place? If we’re just as bad as they are, then who cares if we win or lose. We might as well just join them, then.

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        When anybody in Europe can be convicted and sent to jail for a HATE crime by saying anything disparaging about a Muslim….what about the other side of the coin……headlines in the UK…..”Carry On…..be more tolerant”……BS on that.

  7. Mathius says:

    Let’s all say this together: “My issues do not justify imposing on others.”

    If I have a fear of dogs, I cannot force my neighbor to get rid of his dog. It is my issue, not his. Even if I have been bitten by a dog before – even if the same breed – I cannot generalize that and use it as justification to impose on my innocent neighbor and his innocent dog.

    If I am afraid of Muslims, I cannot force all Muslims to endure extra scrutiny. It is my issue, not theirs.

    The fact that some Muslims have behaved badly is their own issue, not the issue of the millions of innocent Muslims whose only crime is being in the same demographic.

    Jesus H. Christ. This is supposed to be a conservative / libertarian blog. How do you go from “no one has a right to impose on me!” to “Jeepers, I’m afraid of brown people, so we ought to round them up and ship them off. If I can’t do that, it’s daily cavity searches for the lot of ’em”?

    It’s cowardly. Kneejerk reactionary cowardice!

    And, worse, it’s hypocritical to your central beliefs of liberty and freedom. It’s just more “freedom for me, but not for thee!”

    And that’s completely ignoring that it wouldn’t even work.

    Paging Black Flag! (@blackflag2012)

    • Mathius, you are very good at tearing arguments apart but not very good at coming up with ideas that might actually help the situation. Appeasement does not work and will never work. The moderate Muslims need to take charge and drive the radicals out of their “religion” and purge the religion of the archaic concepts of world domination by force. Until that happens, all Muslims are guilty of supporting the radicals. In most of these cases, the families were aware of the radicalization and looked the other way. They often are showed with gifts and money after the fact. This is why I say deport them. They are not innocent.

      I would go even further. Any mosque found supporting or teaching sedition, should be closed and torn down.

      • Mathius says:

        Mathius, you are very good at tearing arguments apart

        Thanks. There are a lot of lawyers in my family.

        But not very good at coming up with ideas that might actually help the situation.

        Maybe. I just don’t see that much of a problem in the grand scheme of things. About as many people are killed by cows as are killed by terrorists.

        I’d rather ignore the assholes and focus on real threats.

        The moderate Muslims need to take charge and drive the radicals out of their “religion” and purge the religion of the archaic concepts of world domination by force.

        Sure. I guess. But the moderates probably feel the same way about the extremists that you and I do – that they’re wholly separate and that there’s nothing they, personally, can do about it. What is a random NYC taxi driver supposed to do about ISIS?

        Until that happens, all Muslims are guilty of supporting the radicals.

        Bullshit.

        By that logic, I’m guilty of killing Jesus.

        And you’re guilty of bombing abortion clinics.

        In most of these cases, the families were aware of the radicalization and looked the other way. They often are showed with gifts and money after the fact. This is why I say deport them. They are not innocent.

        (A) Citation needed.

        (B) then charge them with conspiracy.

        Any mosque found supporting or teaching sedition, should be closed and torn down.

        Try this: Any mosque institution found supporting or teaching sedition, should be closed and torn down.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          I am imagining Mathius standing in front of the family of a child killed in a terrorist bombing, telling the parents “your child is nothing but a rounding error”.

          • Mathius says:

            It doesn’t make it any less tragic, but them’s the breaks.

            It sucks, it does. But 22 people died at that concert. Meanwhile, that same day, 1,736 Americans died of heart disease. If we say the concert was 3 hours long, then 217 people died in that same period. And no one bats an eye.

            Can I take away your cheeseburger?

            “No,” you say, “I’m just hurting myself, and that’s my right to do.”

            Fair enough. Can I arrest you for giving a cheeseburger to your overweight teenager? Surely, statistically, that’s child endangerment.

            You’re far- far- far- far more likely to be killed by a drunk driver. Can we mandate breathalizers in every car before you can turn the ignition?

            “No,” you say, “because I, personally, have done nothing wrong. And the statistical likelihood that someone like me might, at some point, drive drunk does not justify you imposing on me.”

            How’s my JAC impression?

            How, then, do you justify imposing on one specific set of people a significant burden, while conveniently sparing yourself, because of a much, much, much, much smaller threat?

            If I can’t impose on you because of a bigger threat, you can’t impose on them because of a smaller one.

            Yet again: Freedom for me, but not for thee.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Not a very good impression at all.

              And exactly what group and what is this “significant burden” you are talking about?

              • Mathius says:

                And exactly what group

                Middle Eastern Muslim men between the ages of 14 and 30.

                I imagine…

                and what is this “significant burden” you are talking about?

                “Enhanced” screenings every time they fly.

                Extra searches when they enter anywhere with security.

                Random pat-downs on the street. (see Stop & Frisk)

                Government agents reading their emails.

                Movements being tracked.

                Metadata being accumulated and analyzed.

                All that stuff that you think Uncle Sam shouldn’t be able to do to you.. but with more invasiveness and scope.

                I imagine…

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        Poll of Muslims in the UK…..only 37 % would say anything the the authorities about a radicalized jihadist planning something………..I believe somebody did say something to security at the arena about a person acting suspiciously as it happened near the bomb blast…..the person was rebuffed by security and turned it around by saying how would you feel if somebody turned yo in for acting suspicious?

  8. Decades ago I worked with a number of Muslims who were professionals, mostly scientists, engineers and architects. These folks had basically assimilated into American culture. They were true to their faith but had, like so many religious groups, “Modernized” it keeping core tenets and discarding or at least de-emphasizing the over the top stuff. I cannot remember a single one washing his feet at work or leaving for “prayer”. Yet they starved on Ramadan. They were, in every way just like us. Unfortunately, there were many, many New York Yankee Fans among them. As a matter of fact they were a lot less “different” than many ultra orthodox Jews who worked for the same agency. By the way, both groups got along. Know why? Because this is America, not the Gaza strip!

    Over the past two decades, we have allowed immigration of folks who do not want to become us but want us to become them. This is NOT an American trait! While assimilation may NOT be enshrined as a requirement in the Constitution, it is an American, traditional, cultural norm. It happens for a reason. The failure of these new immigrants to assimilate into the prevailing culture while keeping their own private customs and adding a little “spice” to ours is a recipe for disaster, absolute disaster. many years ago, when first interested in teh background of “the Great War”, I asked my father who was born in 1917. Figuring he was a Slav, he might have an opinion, he in turn referred me to our neighbor, down the hall, Frank Popovich a Serb. I asked him. He smiled and in less that 100 words explained Yugoslavia, its history and future (or as he said lack thereof). What I remember best is a prediction that people so deeply different who refuse to see the other guys’ viewpoint do not a United Country make. The disaster that Yugoslavia became in the 1990’s was not some bunch of dumb peasants, but a modern 1st world, educated country returning to its roots.

    I have no idea why, when I repeatedly post Teddy Roosevelt’s hyphenated American speech just about everywhere, it draws no comment. Perhaps people are afraid to entertain it. Maybe it is old fashioned, who knows? But a better argument for assimilation has never been made. Have we become so sophisticated, so high up on our new tower of babel that we can ignore the lessons of history? Just the other day I was reminded of Lincoln’s “House Divided” speech. Is that irrelevant to this discussion? I think not.

    In the past, Americans, much smarter than we have just slammed the door shut for the purpose of getting a handle on what was happening. While all of “The old generation” in my family is long gone. I am sure, absolutely certain, that it was met by them with dismay. Scores of my relatives were in war torn Europe during and after WW 1. They were cut off from coming here. It was bad for them but good for the whole. How would things have turned out had the same numbers as before the war kept coming and then we entered the decade long nightmare of the Great Depression?

    The largest single ethnic group in the United States in 1917 was German. Go to any 1st World War monument in any city or town in the United States where there was substantial German immigration and read the names on the commemorative plaques. Germans are prominent among them, many 1st generation immigrants fighting not for the Fatherland but for their adoptive country. That, is assimilation. Should less loyalty be expected or even demanded of modern immigrants?

    Those of us old enough to remember the 1950’s and early sixties who lived close to an area like Harlem or BedSty can remember the black community that existed then. It was a striving and assimilated community which, certainly in Cities like NY added “spice” to all our lives. They were on the same road as everybody else. While the evils of de-facto segregation affected us all at that time, even in the North, there was an understanding among people of good will that eventually we would overcome. Certainly there was no hostility in my working class family against people who except for race were very much like us. The real, crying shame that came out of the 1960’s was some bastardized, insane notion that for Blacks to achieve equality in the United States they had to be substantially different than whites (Kwanza and Dashikis). In case nobody noticed, this has not worked well and based on the Black College Grads who demand separate but equal graduation ceremonies as well as separate but equal campus housing is leading us backwards, at a gallop!

    • Mathius says:

      They were, in every way just like us.

      How ’bout that?

      Unfortunately, there were many, many New York Yankee Fans among them.

      Well, no one’s perfect.

      (go Dodgers!)

      As a matter of fact they were a lot less “different” than many ultra orthodox Jews

      Speaking as a Jew, I cannot stand (most) orthodox Jews.

      Bunch of holier-than-thou superior intolerant assholes who give the rest of us a bad name by association.

      Because this is America, not the Gaza strip!

      AMEN!

      Well, then again, they should get along in Gaza, too. It’s just that their leaders keep them riled up and at each other’s throats, but hey, your point stands.

      While assimilation may NOT be enshrined as a requirement in the Constitution, it is an American, traditional, cultural norm.

      I mean, I guess.. generally..

      Then again, I’ve been to plenty of areas where they don’t speak English and you could easily think you were in another country. I’m thinking, especially, of various ChinaTowns. I remember this village in Hawaii… can’t remember the name.. If the currency wasn’t in greenbacks, I’d have thought I was in a Japanese fishing village.

      I’ve also been to Watts, where one could be forgive for thinking they were in war-torn central Africa, only with fewer lions.

      in less that 100 words explained Yugoslavia, its history and future (or as he said lack thereof

      My mother’s mother’s side is from Yugoslavia. I’d love to hear the 100 words.

      What I remember best is a prediction that people so deeply different who refuse to see the other guys’ viewpoint do not a United Country make.

      YES!!!!

      So you would respond by, instead of reaching out for peace, withdrawing your hand.

      You have to leave it out there. Keep trying to see the other guy as human. Hope he’ll come around.

      But there can be no unification if you withdraw your efforts to bridge the divide.

      Remember those “good” Muslims you were first talking about? They’re reaching out to us, no? But they’d surely be swept up any any profiling. How are they going to feel? When forced to “pick a side,” are they going to stick with us or withdraw to the “other side”?

      In the past, Americans, much smarter than we have just slammed the door shut for the purpose of getting a handle on what was happening.

      No, they slammed the door shut out of fear and xenophobia.

      Though, certainly, there have been brilliant individuals past, present, and future, there has never been a “smarter” general populace than there is today (a fact I find depressing). People don’t change that dramatically from generation to generation – just the level and quality of education. You shouldn’t idealize the past. They were just people doing what they thought was best at the time. They weren’t gods. They weren’t giants. They weren’t special. They were just men and women, like you and I.

      And they slammed the door shut because they hated and feared the foreigners just as you do. And they also wanted to protect their jobs from competition – but that’s neither here nor there.

      How would things have turned out had the same numbers as before the war kept coming and then we entered the decade long nightmare of the Great Depression?

      Who knows? Maybe one of them would have tried planting soybeans and the whole Dust Bowl could have been averted? Maybe one of them would have been short the stock market and become the next Rockafellar and you’d be a billionaire.

      Maybe not.

      Who knows?

      Maybe it’s not up to us to hoard opportunity and deny it to others.

      The largest single ethnic group in the United States in 1917 was German.

      Fun story #1: Back in WWI, people would kick Dachshunds because they were “German” dogs. For some reason, this logic did not apply to kicking German Shepherds.

      Fun story #2: Back before WWI, people used to eat a lot of bratwurst. However, due to its German name, people took to calling it “Liberty Sausage.” 100 years later, we renamed French Fries to Freedom Fries.

      Should less loyalty be expected or even demanded of modern immigrants?

      You don’t get to define or demand loyalty.

      You get to insist they don’t commit crimes and they pay their taxes.

      Beyond that, their lives are their own to live. Not yours.

      The real, crying shame that came out of the 1960’s was some bastardized, insane notion that for Blacks to achieve equality in the United States they had to be substantially different than whites (Kwanza and Dashikis).

      Maybe that wouldn’t have happened if y’all’d’ve (how do you like that contraction! “you all would have”) let them use your lunch counters and water fountains? If, instead of making them your enemies, you’d welcomed them more readily with open arms, they wouldn’t have been so attracted to the notion of setting themselves apart?

      based on the Black College Grads who demand separate but equal graduation ceremonies as well as separate but equal campus housing is leading us backwards, at a gallop!

      Separate is not equal.

      Just as I would decry a “whites only” graduation, so would I decry a “blacks only” graduation (if such a thing is not just a strawman).

      That said, well, America is white dominated – we hold all the power. If a weak minority wants to have a special party just for themselves? I think it’s stupid and backward, but I have better things to be agitated about.

      —————

      PHEW!

      • OK Matt!

        Good points but, yes I think I can demand loyalty. It was demanded of all who came before. No one, not even Germans in WW 2 and Japanese in WW 2 were NOT required to sign up for the draft (I mean how loyal can you ask people to be) Then if you went for citizenship you swore to bear “true faith and allegiance”. If you were a non-citizen I think you are here at the whim ofteh government. I know that the courts can tie that one up for a while but I suspect if Congress voted to deport Green Card holders, it is within their right.

        Check this out:

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2638646/posts

      • “So you would respond by, instead of reaching out for peace, withdrawing your hand.

        You have to leave it out there. Keep trying to see the other guy as human. Hope he’ll come around.”

        It gets chopped off most of the time….like turning the other cheek…it gets slapped also.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      As one of my Great Grand Mother’s said after refusing to speak German with me for the umpteenth time “Wie are American’s now”….she never lost her accent. Immigrated to the US pre 1900.

      None of my relatives ever refered to themselves in a “hyphenated manner. No German American, No French American, No Polish American, No Dutch American, No Austrian American, No Croation American, No Romanian American, No Turkish Americam, No Crow American, No Lithuanian American, No Prussian American, No Russian American…….Just American and they all assimulated period.

  9. “If we do not stand in uniform condemnation of this killing – then not only will we be judged by our people, not only will we be judged by history, but we will be judged by God.” “This is not a battle between different faiths, different sects, or different civilizations. This is a battle between barbaric criminals who seek to obliterate human life, and decent people of all religions who seek to protect it. This is a battle between good and evil.”
    Trump said the “path to peace begins right here, on this ancient soil, in this sacred land. America is prepared to stand with you – in pursuit of shared interests and common security. But the nations of the Middle East cannot wait for American power to crush this enemy for them. The nations of the Middle East will have to decide what kind of future they want for themselves, for their countries, and for their children. It is a choice between two futures – and it is a choice America cannot make for you. A better future is only possible if your nations drive out the terrorists and extremists. Drive. Them. Out. DRIVE THEM OUT of your places of worship. DRIVE THEM OUT of your communities. DRIVE THEM OUT of your holy land, and DRIVE THEM OUT OF THIS EARTH.”

    Hopefully they will take care of their own problem (which became the world’s problem). Meantime, I have no problem driving them out.

  10. Canine Weapon says:
  11. I’m tired of the .000000001 % carp, this is only getting worse and if we do nothing it’s gonna continue getting worse. Now I’m not smart enough to know how to fix this problem but doing basically nothing but reacting after the fact isn’t gonna work. I suspect theres a lot of Liberty being lost during these investigations after the fact too,but I guess it’s okay only after people are dead. Who knows maybe the first step should be extreme vetting. We certainly don’t need to add to the current problem.

    https://www.steynonline.com/7841/dangerous-woman-meets-dangerous-man

    • Mathius says:

      I’m tired of the .000000001 % carp

      Causes of death in the United States last available year (2015) :
      Heart Disease: 633,842
      Malignant Neoplasms: 595,930
      Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease 155,041
      Unintentional Injury: 146,571
      Cerebro Vasuclar: 140,323
      Alzheimers: 110,561
      Diabetes: 79,535
      Influenza & Pneumonia: 57,062
      Nephritis: 49,959
      Suicide: 44,193

      Breaking out Unintentional Injury:
      Unintentional poisonin: 42,032 (who knew?!)
      Motor vehicle: 33,736
      Fall deaths: 31,959
      Homicide: 15,809
      Ariana Grande Concerts (world-wide) : 22

      Total number of Americans killed by terrorists 1975-2015: 3024 (incl 9/11).

      Here is a partial list of things with a greater liklihood: animal attack, police incident, accidental gunshot, bicycling, regional meteor strike, lightning, and COWS. Also, winning the lottery.

      If there were a disease instead of a violent action of a lunatic, you wouldn’t even give it a second thought.

      Human being are terrible at evaluating risk.

      Now I’m not smart enough to know how to fix this problem but doing basically nothing but reacting after the fact isn’t gonna work.

      “Nothing” is exactly what we should do. Allow routine policework to catch as much as it can. When shit happens, as invariably it must, rebuild and move on. Deny the lunatics the hysteria and headlines and panic they crave.

      When they knocked over the twin tows, I suggested (and stand by my suggestion) that they should have rebuild the exact same towers (renovated the inside, but otherwise identical). One giant, defiant F-U to the terrorists. But that’s just me.

      I suspect theres a lot of Liberty being lost during these investigations after the fact too,but I guess it’s okay only after people are dead.

      It sucks.

      He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
      -Ben Franklin

      We certainly don’t need to add to the current problem.

      Agreed.

      But that’s exactly what profiling, “extreme vetting,” and otherwise alienating our moderate Muslim allies would accomplish.

      • There were, after all those of us not particularly crazy about the patriot act. Ultimately it allowed Obama to spy on everyone and unmask them (cannot resist that!).

        Now regarding the small number of people killed by terrorists in the US. It is like welfare fraud. Quite different from Ken Lay or Bernie Madoff yet it rankles. Why? There is something quite different about being taken for a ride where you fell into the trap, even if it involves your life savings as opposed to “sponging” off society.

        Note the word “sponging”! A very specific word never used for Ponzi schemers nor the guy running the three card monte game. A word reserved for your useless relatives always seeking a “temporary” loan or inserting themselves into your summer rental.

        Ditto with terrorists. We might not have been able to avoid Pearl Harbor or the sinking of the Lusitania but we distinguish between an act of war and an act of terrorism as do the “Laws of War”.

        I can make another analogy regarding drug overdose deaths. Far far more than “crib death” or kids drowning in backyard pools or 5 gallon compound buckets yet we work hard on the latter and not so much on the former, even when it is the next door neighbors kid. Just think 50,000 plus per year! But the difference, they asked for it! Sorry but if your are dumb enough to think you will escape that consequence then you are really not part of the gene pool we care about.

        I could further talk about AIDS. We feel for the little kids who caught it through a blood transfusion (Ryan White) I even remember his name 30 years later! or the EMT trying to stem the flow of blood from a stabbed junkie or the poor unsuspecting wife of a philanderer. But despite the rivers of tears shed by the gay community. It became very evident, very fast that it could be prevented through safe sex or by not sharing needles. You literally dug your own grave. Would you care anymore than you would for some idiot smoking a cigarette as he degreases his engine with gasoline. But then again, he has no lobby. Or some dunce playing Russian Roulette as a joke after a six pack (NO, the NRA will NOT defend him).

      • Just A Citizen says:

        When “moderate” Muslims were asked what they suggest we do they said “allow us to do extreme vetting of people coming here from the Muslim countries. Because we can tell pretty easily if they are from the radical arm of the religion.” Maybe not exact quote but pretty much.

        Mathius, you condemn ideas by creating stereotypes. Like “profiling”. That word can apply to a broad or narrow range of people depending on the criteria employed. To simply condemn profiling is quite unthinking, in my opinion.

      • But that’s exactly what profiling, “extreme vetting,” and otherwise alienating our moderate Muslim allies would accomplish.

        Bullshit flag

        You have no way of knowing that. Maybe all these peaceful Muslims here now would welcome profiling. Might take the monkey off their back some. I’m pretty sure they’re tired of getting the side eye from everyone, deserved or not. If they are peaceful, they wouldn’t welcome trouble either.

  12. My greatest fear…….(the fear is actually for my children and grandchildren)…..is turning out like Europe. That is not who we are and there is nothing about Europe that we should emulate.

  13. Just A Citizen says:

    Point of order.

    Assimilation was not a “cultural norm” in the US once non English people started migrating here. In reality, large numbers of immigrants created economic hardship for those here, via competition for lower wages, suffered economic hardship themselves, resulted in ghettos and increased crime. The US Calvary was filled with immigrants who could barely speak English, because they could not find good work. The Union recruited Germans to fill the army in their war against the Confederacy.

    Yet each of these influxes was eventually absorbed and people did assimilate. Because the broader culture was stronger than the new ones. And there was no political entity around to try and enforce the new on upon the old. But assimilation also changed the old culture, creating a new blended one. Otherwise the Socialism of Europe would have never been able to gain a foothold here.

    • That is the “spice” I refer to. The new arrivals did assimilate from the very beginning. The next generation may have spoke the mother tongue but as a second language. It is actually rather amazing how many Irishers got here NOT speaking English. Every new group leaves us with something new. Went to a Catholic School festival the other day, Polish food, Irish food, Latin food, Jamaican beef patties, German food. See…

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        Several years ago I rented a movie and watched it with an old friend. The movie was called “Keeping the Faith” with Ben Stiller, Edward Norton and Jenna Elfman. My friend was absolutely upset with the fact in the movie, the Jewish and Catholic community actually associated in socials together. Now as it turns out my “former” friend was so religiously bigoted she would make a nun look like a heretic. I was astonished by the look on her daughters face as she looked at her mother in shock.

  14. So, Mathius, you seem to be saying that there are some problems the government just can’t solve, at least not without infringing too much on the rights of people, so we should just learn to live with a certain amount of tragedy. Have you ever considered applying this idea to other problems the government tries to solve, like healthcare?

    • Mathius says:

      I think the government can best “solve” the problem by not “creating” the problem in the first place. It is our meddling in the middle east and our aggression toward the middle east over the last several decades which has created this mess.

      And I’m not saying the government can’t solve it – but rather that (A) their are higher priorities and (B) our attempts to make it better don’t work and are, often, counterproductive.

      But to reverse it, you seem to be suggesting that the government can solve all problems, so have you considered applying this idea to other area, like healthcare?

      • gmanfortruth says:

        Mathius, Our government didn’t cause the problem, that’s Liberal nonsense. As to that talking point, it seems France and lately England are under attack, not the US.

        AS far as government’s as a whole, they cause ALL of our problems outside of weather related and natural disasters. Maybe that’s why many of us want FAR less government in our lives.

        • Mathius says:

          it seems France and lately England are under attack, not the US.

          Terrorism is a rounding error there, too.

          The only reason it’s such a big deal is because people make it such a big deal.

          The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

          Also, for what it’s worth, the Brits have fewer deaths due to preventable medical issues than us because they have socialize healthcare, so terrorism will necessarily present a bigger slice of the pie. France pays for most of heathcare via the government, so the same general issue applies.

          If you’re willing to give us socialized healthcare in the US, I’ll stipulate the terrorism rises a step in terms of national priorities. Deal?

          AS far as government’s as a whole, they cause ALL of our problems outside of weather related and natural disasters.

          Ignoring Global Warming, what about the government’s weather machine using tornadoes and earthquakes as weapons?

          Maybe that’s why many of us want FAR less government in our lives.

          Right, yes, of course…… except when targeting those people.

          Then it’s ok.

          • gmanfortruth says:

            If you’re willing to give us socialized healthcare in the US, I’ll stipulate the terrorism rises a step in terms of national priorities. Deal?

            Ah, let’s have government fuck healthcare up even more…..nah, my security isn’t negotiable. OR. Let’s just ignore the problem until enough Liberal’s become victims.

          • The Brits, despite their penchant for immigration have far fewer social problems that we do. I wish people would stop comparing the US to anyone else. We are quite unique.

            While this flood of immigration into Europe will finally give them a taste of what is like to have a permanent sub-culture large enough to stymie their law enforcement who will not or cannot be assimilated into the predominant culture.

            Let us wait another ten years or so when France, Germany, Italy and England are overwhelmed and see how their crime stats are or their health stats.

  15. gmanfortruth says:

    I think, by virtue of the Patriot Act (which I don’t really like) and the declared war on terrorism, it would be completely legal to profile and SPY based on the profiling. Most of this can be totally covert and unknown. Maybe if Obama would have used our resources doing that instead of spying on his political enemies, the last few attacks on US soil could have been averted.

    On the assimilation issue. I think that assimilation should be a requirement for citizenship. It doesn’t mean letting one’s heritage go away, but to live as we live.

    As too the chances of getting killed by a terrorist being so low, I say so what? There is a very low chance of being sprayed by a skunk as well, but NO One is going to invite one into their community without watching it’s every move. No one wants a skunk making a home under their porch, and no one wants a terrorist attack that kills innocent people.

    Profiling is part of human nature. We do it with every living thing.

    • Mathius says:

      Patriot Act

      What a piece of shit.

      the declared war on terrorism

      What a farce.

      it would be completely legal to profile and SPY based on the profiling.

      Probably.

      But that doesn’t make it right.

      And that also doesn’t mean it would survive a SCOTUS challenge.

      Most of this can be totally covert and unknown.

      So it’s ok to invade your privacy so long as you don’t know your privacy is being invaded?

      On the assimilation issue. I think that assimilation should be a requirement for citizenship. It doesn’t mean letting one’s heritage go away, but to live as we live.

      Give us your tired,
      Your poor,
      Your huddle masses
      Yearning to breathe free.
      I lift my golden lamp
      To thee.
      So long as you think and act like I do.
      And speak English.
      And don’t try to change any laws.
      And don’t vote for the Democrats.
      And don’t try to change any aspect of the culture.
      And don’t try to elect representatives like yourselves.
      And understand that this country belongs to white Christian conservatives.

      As too the chances of getting killed by a terrorist being so low, I say so what? There is a very low chance of being sprayed by a skunk as well, but NO One is going to invite one into their community without watching it’s every move.

      That’s a lousy analogy.

      I absolutely would welcome the skunk into my community if the odds of it misbehaving were so low, it was just seeking a better life, and it was likely to contribute to the enrichment of my community – oh, and also the fundamental premise of my community is to be a welcoming community toward vagrant animals. Just because other people are so quick to judge doesn’t make it right.

      Hell, I have a far better chance of my dog biting my toddlers (especially given how rough they are with her). It’s far higher than the odds of my being killed by a terrorist. Should I kick my dog out of the house?

      Human beings are terrible at risk assessment.

      Profiling is part of human nature. We do it with every living thing.

      In other words, we should never aspire to our higher ideals. It’s ok to do evil things because it’s part of human nature.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        I absolutely would welcome the skunk into my community

        And Europe is learning the hard way that skunk’s Young Muslim men of fighting age) can be a real problem.

        But fortunately, Obama is gone and Democrats are the minority. It will be dealt with.

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    https://www.scribd.com/document/349261099/2016-Cert-FISC-Memo-Opin-Order-Apr-2017-4#from_embed

    Originally Top Secret covering wrong doing by Obama administration involving FISA requests and warrants.

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  22. Sir Mathius…..you use some really interesting analogy. There have been many times when I have said….life is tough deal with it and you have criticized that line of thinking…..now you say, shit happens, life is tough deal with it.

    You seem to also want to use statistics in your analogy that .0000000001% is nothing to fret about but that 50% is something to fret about. Numbers seem to guide your thinking.

    But, when you reduce something to a common denominator, you can’t change the numerator and hope to get to a different conclusion….the answer is still going to be reflective of the base number. By that, I mean, “if life is tough deal with it” is the common denominator, then so be it.

    How about using this to apply to life and all things in general.

    Health care….life is tough, deal with it. So what if it is expensive and so what if it affects a great number…that does not matter….life is tough, deal with it.

    You happen to be black and I happen to be white…..so what….life is tough, deal with it.

    Chicago……..no problems there, life is tough, deal with it.

    If you are going to pick a common theme and that is the basis…..then it MUST APPLY ACROSS THE BOARD…..no? If it does not apply across the board, is that not an example of hypocrisy?

    DPM sailing the coastal waters, spies a charter boat full of women and children…..uses his brass wound cannon and sinks the boat but only rescues the women and grog…….life is tough, deal with it.

    D13 says to the people crossing the Texas border illegally……go home……life is tough, deal with it…..oh wait…I already do that…….scratch this.

  23. Am I reading this right? They found this laptop hidden in crevice in a different building and she’s claiming it is hers????

    • Just A Citizen says:

      V.H.

      Yes, you got it correct. I was going to comment on this case two days ago but thought better of it. First, I wasn’t sure it was not fake. Second, there was information lacking on what the Pakistanis were up to. Some were alluding that they were leaking information from Committees, and thus may be connected to the intel. leaks. This story makes it sound like some kind of extortion was being conducted. Either way, the reports I saw said they jumped ship, meaning they bolted back to Pakistan and may never be recovered for prosecution.

      Now, as for the Wicked Witch of the East. The Chief should have simply responded, “Well Congresswoman, if you lost a gun and it was used in the commission of a crime, would you expect us to just give it back before completing our investigation? Would you expect us to break the chain of evidence and harm our prosecution just because it belonged to you?”

  24. Here are some interesting numbers for you Mathius…..does this fit your pistol? 1.6% of US citizens owned slaves in 1860 when slavery was at its peak and they were all democrats. So you can stop basing your hate**** for the white race on the actions of a mere 1.6%…..verdad?

    Not claiming that you hate the white race, but I have seen you speak out on slavery as if it were a big issue back in the 1800’s and carries on today…in the form of racism…..life is tough…get over it, correct?

  25. Interesting quote from Eleanor Roosevelt, Forst Lady of the United States, 1945.

    The Marines that I have seen have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps.

  26. More facts for Mathius from the US Government….Census, HUD, Homeland Security, and someother agency I cannot find out who it is…….( if I knew how to copy and paste links on here, I would, but given the fact that I am a computer illeterate….life is tough, live with it ).

    1) More than 43%of all Food Stamps are given to illegal immigrants.
    2) 95% of the warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegals.
    3) Less than 2% of illegals are picking crops but 41% are on welfare.
    4) More than 66% of all births in California are to illegals on Medi-cal, paid by the US tax payer.
    5) 59.4 % of all occupants of HUD properties in the US are illegals.
    6) More than 39% of California students in grades 1-12 are illegals.
    7) 75% of Los Angeles Most Wanted are illegals.
    8) It is estimated that 64% of all gang members are illegals.
    9) US companies using illegals in 2005 profited over 2.36 Trillion Dollars increased to
    3.12 trillion in 2015,last known figures.

    Nah…..no reason to profile.

  27. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    I spent 1/2 a year in Europe back in 2001. In Amsterdam I was attacked or an attempted attack upon my person 4 times by people that were NOT Dutch. The Dutch were shocked that I defended myself, saying by doing so I risked being arrested, for being “privaleged” and I should have let the poor migrant just take what they wanted or mug an old lady who ran to me for protection as the migrant was crawling up her backside.. Yet even then they were so cowed by the EU to not speak up against the invasion occuring real time……..you make one joke about the “Troubles” Irish problem in the UK and you would be severely inconvienienced, especially if you were near an airport……While in the UK, in Manchester and Birmingham specifically, there were massive riots between the Muslims and Hindu’s. The police just tried to protect property because getting between the warring religions was a lost cause. One night 500 police wre hospitalized…….The story blazing on BBC was not the riots occuring nightly, but get this “Racism in America”.
    The last time I was in Milan….they sure as hell were profiling people before boarding and several people from the middle east did not board after being called out.
    I flew an old girlfriend to the UK and then she and I were spending a vacation in Paris. There was NO requirement for her to have a visa for entry to the UK much less one to France. She was a 20 year legal US resident, just not a citizen, but from Colombia. She was denied entry even to be escorted to the connecting flight out of the country in 45 minutes and was locked up and returned on the flight she arrived on back to Charlotte NC. As I was trying to deal with it the UK officials said be that it may…..the government had let in a lot of refugees from the cartel and civil war problems in Colombia and it did not turn out well so NO Colombians were allowed in at that time.

    • Yes…..it is a fact of life but, as Mathius would say, two wrongs do not a right make…..

      I cut Mathius a lot of slack because of his age. If he grew up in the same era as you and I, he would think radically different. He would know that extending hands, ignoring atrocities because it is .000001 or whatever, turning the other cheek, etc…just does not work in the real world. He has not seen it or been part of it. His judgements are reasonable given those circumstances and it is common place for that age to criticize without offering other options. He and his age that think being reasonable will turn hearts and minds…just do not know. There is nowhere they can point where it has worked. That said, things that we did in our time did not work very well either. The cold war was an abysmal failure but there was no other option available. You and I know that most parts of the world understand one thing…brute force. Anything else is considered weakness. You and I grew up in an era where the liberal government tried to right wrongs with things like affirmative action and various laws designed to reverse discriminate. I am here to say that the laws of the late 60’s and 70’s are to blame for society today…..the “gimme” society.

      Paying money for education and building infrastructure and providing medical health, and trying to provide jobs in the form of foreign aid…..simply does not work and never has and never will. But he has not seen it. I will have to say that he is much more intelligent than most out there but he is still idealistic. He has young ones and I can tell from his posts that he is a family man that will learn as his children grow and he sees more of the world. The mere fact that he is here and will dialogue with us shows me that, idealistic as he is, he will listen and participate without the diatribe of most of his ilk. At least he puts forth an argument that is understandable.

      Profiling is the only way that will work. israel has proven that. We have proven that in Texas and results are outstanding. Five years ago, rapes and murders, burglaries and thefts were primarily (over 60% ) illegals. We instituted some austere programs that have reduced these crimes by over 70% through profiling. We are just quiet about it. I will spar with people on the facts that the individuals crossing the borders are looking for a better life……some are but not the majority. We profile and will continue to do so. It simply works.

      It is the same with Voter ID…..we do not care what the SCOTUS said….we still have voter ID….know what? It caught approximately 30,000 people just last year trying to vote twice and we prosecuted some of them….word gets around that we are going to enforce the law…and borders crossings have reduced by 90 %. It is amazing. We have actually pulled our on duty National guard border force down from 5,000 to 2500…literally cut it in half. The Feds no longer are shooting non lethal ammunition. Hey finally have the real thing. It is the way of the world. Open borders simply do not work and there is no place that it is……………….especially in Europe.

      So, we know the world for what it is….lethal and dangerous and no way there will be a one world…..not in our millenia.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        d13thecolonel

        Mathius’ views are not due to his “youth”. He will not use that as an excuse and neither should you, or any of us. Although I do love to remind him he is just a kid. More fun that reminding him he votes for the “Democrat” party far to often.

        Mathius’ core point is often sound. It is his argumentation that is often flawed, especially by the use of hyperbole. Then again, some of the comments he is responding to suffer the same flaw.

        To say we need to profile without describing how or what criteria would be used is just asking for one of his rants. And I must say, his rants are a lot easier to swallow than Black Flags. Although they do take on a certain similarity at times.

        Now let me make a point that should have been made in response to his argumentation. Profiling is nothing but another form of making judgments. To say we cannot profile is to say we cannot judge. This is to say that humans cannot evolve because we cannot judge fact from fiction. Hell, we cannot judge what is good or bad fiction.

        If I am walking in the woods in Montana, I am going to profile the hell out of every odd looking shape I see near and far. Any movement will get an immediate response which starts defensive. If I am walking in the woods of the Sierra Nevada, I will not be profiling the same. My defensive awareness will be much less. Moral of the story, when in Griz country watch out for bears.

        Now on profiling, I see that once again the culprits made several trips back and forth to known hotbeds and their home country. Younger, middle eastern decent, traveling back and forth from X to Y. Maybe that is a good profile criteria to start with.

        Another would be when a Muslim parent call in to tell the FBI their kid is being radicalized they should profile that kid…… just sayin.

        • Dunno, JAC…..I know that Mathius will not use it but youth ( meaning lack of world experience primarily ) is a culprit the same as it was in my days of teen relaying things to my dad. WWII veteran, hard core businessman, grew up in the Mc Carthy era…depression teen…father that was a bankruptcy attorney during the depression. I did not know about the things that he went through during that time nor did I live it. I would never understand nickel hamburgers or the things that Jews went through in the United States after the war. I know that my line of thinking was sound bites…..surfer cuts and bell bottoms. I thought that I knew things that my dad did not, but I really did not.

          So, I think that lacking real world experience is an issue…albeit…not the only issue.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            d13thecolonel

            But you see he is simply asking, in a very convoluted manner, whether you believe in the sanctity of Rights or not.

            If we have a right to be free from surveillance, to be secure in our home and affects, then by what authority does the Govt. get to spy on and hassle people only based on their race, national origin, perceived religion, etc. etc..

            The proper answer should be “they can not and should not”. Not on that basis.

            I think you know well that good profiling is more discriminating that the use of such broad categories. In essence, it goes to actual behavior that warrants a closer look.

            By the way, good profiling is not illegal to my knowledge. The courts only ruled on the kind of profiling that starts with “all people of X race”, or “all men of X race”.

            Now when you hunt cow killing bears you go to where the bears live. If you want the cow eating bear you then watch closely for behavior of the bears to see which one is hurling up cow parts or choking on a horn. You go after that bear, not all of them.

            • JAC…I get that,,,and I get Mathius’ point as well and I know where he is comng from…but, BUT….that is not reality.

              Look, down here on our profiling, we do not see a Hispanic walking the street and say..”LOOK there is a Hispanic, let’s go hassle him.” That is not how profiling works. Sorry, but in reality, just because he/she is Hispanic, warrants a closer look. The same theory is anyone in a hoodie walking the streets in 90 degree weather who is between the ages of 15 and 50…..it is not only the race, which is suspect, like it or not, but patterns and behaviour.

              Another example on the border. Something that, say MAthius, would not even know beause he is not here. Any person crossing the border wearing a backpack…is automatically suspect and will get stopped, no matter the age. That behaviour is not NORMALLY a simple peasant looking for work. I have yet to see a peasant looking for work to support his family wearing a backpack and wearing Nike tennis shoes. All these kids that came up suppoesedly looking for a better life…the ones that had no sponsors or parents are automatically rounded up because over 90 percent….Yes, 90 percent end up in the gangs. You cannot even put them in foster homes or schools or anything like that because they run away the first chance they get….all of them. Why? Because their families are threatened where they are… that if they do not join the gangs, the families are murdered. This is not happenstance….it is not the exception. It is the rule.

              Any car with Hispanic males between the ages of 15 and 50 will be stopped because the rule is……they are dirty ( meaning criminal or criminal intent ). Why? Because that is the reality of the situation. Profiling does not condemn the whole race or whole culture but it does make them suspect, AUTOMATICALLY, because of the actions of that group.

              This is viewed as a violation of civil rights and it is often stated that “this is not what America is or supposed to be”…..the right gets hammered all the time about social change because times have changed. Well, times have changed on the border or in Europe that now requires profiling. Open borders used to be no problem but now they are a problem. All this crap about imaginary lines is just that…..pure crap and a rallying point. (Just like the Pope condeming walls and fences as he lives behind walls and fences designed to keep people out and being protected by Pikemen). It is the hypocrisy that gets to me.

              I see things all the time, from the left, about ::citations::…….Citations from news sources that are at very best…not credible.

              Reality is what it is…it never gets reported and people never see it. Those that do, understand it. To be reactive never gets ahead of the game….being proactive is always ahead of the game. The USA has a reputation of being soft and easy in the last 20 years…and we are reaping the results of that.

              One place where Mathius is totally correct….life IS tough, deal with it…..but you do not get to be selective of it. To use statistics of .00001 and say things like, you are most likely to get struck by lightning than you are by a terrorist might be true…statistically speaking. That still does not change things…..when a storm comes in the spring time, what do you do. You know that it is most likely to be nasty and full of lightning. Do you say, well, the chance of me getting struck are nil so I will walk in the storm….no, you profile it by saying that the spring time brings nasty storms….not all are nasty but thhe majority of them are….so you take shelter.

              You profile for safety….you profile from what is reality. I hate it…….and those of us that do it…hate it. It is a usurp of rights. But Mathius and his ilk, mpstly, always say to err on the side of caution but then they say can only do that in certain situations…..some more of that selective bullshit that I always get riled about.

              Anyway, using Mathius is not a very good example because he really does not think and do what the hard left or liberals do. You can tell that by his posts. But he is our resident leftward thinking individual that will actually talk to you and present his side. It sounds like I am picking on him but I am not…..but I will question the validity of some of the issues he espouses or stands for…..while recognizing at the same time…..he says some things just to rile up some folks…..But all in all, he is a great asset to this blog.****

              **** I said that without Dr Pepper.

              I really do like this blog because of the diverse opinions and, for the most part, there is a variety of opinions and, for the most part, everyone is civil and willing to discuss….and give their viewpoints from experience.

              ( I do have to question Mathius some because, after all, a trannie*** from California to new York. He had no chance.)

              **** Now I am betting that my use of the term trannie brings to mind, a transvestite or a sex change person or some such definition……when in the 60’s and 70’s trannie simply meant a person who tranfers from one place to another. Therein lies a point.

              • Just A Citizen says:

                d13thecolonel

                The principle does not change reality, that is true. But reality does not change the principle either.

                Either you believe in the principle or you do not. You cannot say freedom and rights for me but not you just because somebody that looks like you committed a crime.

                Sorry, but stopping people only because they are brown colored and male, between 15 and 50, is a violation of reasonable search. It is a violation of our right to privacy. If those men turn out to be citizens you have violated their American Rights.

  28. Just A Citizen says:

    Thought on the Islamic Terrorism issue.

    Terrorism, by definition, is violence against both govt. and civilian targets. That is targeting civilians not engaged in direct combat. Also by definition, this violence is different in that it has a “political” objective.

    Thus, there have been many who were quick to say that the Islamic terrorism was because of our behavior, its goal was to get us, as in the western world, out of the middle east. And to stop supporting Israel in any way. Now some of that is true, per statements made by people like bin Laden.

    But there are other aspects to the Islamic version. First of all it is not country based. It is an ideology a religious ideology. Thus it is terrorism not just against the west, but anyone who does not agree. So is the message really to just get us out? Is it to just get everyone to agree and convert?

    Or is it about the 12th Imam? Or maybe something else, like the eradication of western culture as we have come to know it. I wonder if the militant Muslims would be as angry with the Puritans as they are with modern Liberal America? I am guessing, yes. Because it is not just about our liberal moral standards. It is also about Mohammad.

    Another point. Terrorism, by having a political objective can be addressed, theoretically, by either killing those who conduct it or ignoring it. But with this Islamic version there is no either/or, as Mathius was presenting.

    If we ignore it, they win. If we kill them, they win. They gain strength from either choice, as well as giving in to their demands. Because their demands are superficial. They are not the real reason for the Jihad.

    When a war becomes about ideology, like hard core Islam, it becomes hard to win. Every effort to do anything but capitulate will be seen as an attack on the religion. This includes pretending they are nothing but a pimple on a fly’s backside.

    I have presented this as definitive statements, and that is not my intent. I am just sharing some thoughts I have had on the subject these past few days. I watched that Putz Clarke interviewed by Anderson Cooper the other night and once again he claimed it was all because these poor Muslim kids feel disaffected in their communities. It is all about poverty, no jobs and lack of inclusion, and of course it is OUR FAULT. Mr. National Security and terrorism expert apparently still does not get it. Anyway, this caused me to think about the subject along with the thread above on profiling, etc..

    Oh, I forgot my conclusion. KILL THEM but make sure we KILL THEM DEAD. If we only wound them others will go to their side. Obviously the killing part needs to be coupled with many other efforts. But spending billions each year to protect ourselves is part of what they hope to achieve. Remember, the goal is to WEAKEN the USA in particular and the West in general. Now just think of all the players who share that goal.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      The biggest beef I heard by talking to a lot of Dutch folks and co-workers, is that they heard all the excuses about the migrants feeling disaffected etc. One thing that keeps being ignored but was not lost on the Dutch populous is that the Islamic migrants were voluntarily isolating themselves and refusing to integrate with society. They were refusing to send their kids to schools (exceptions are made) by they generally stayed uneducated and therfore unemployable. They refused to learn the language so again were unable to be employed etc. Arabic was not the only language but others from all over africa and the east. The government under pressure from the EU caved continually to the globalists and apologists and went after those citizens that objected to the immigration policies and rarely if ever went after the Islamists.

      While I was also in the UK one of the top imams was railing about that they would not be satisfied until the Cresent replaces the Cross on top of St Paul’s. Yet how things have changed when during WWII the iconic photo of the dome of St Pauls standing out amid the fires of London during the Blitz, yet todays generation is capitulating by fear of prosecution by their own government by possibly offending or making somebody feel uncomfortable.

  29. Just A Citizen says:

    Montana Republican Congressional candidate takes down and beats Guardian reporter.

    Tomorrow is the election.

    Going to be interesting to see how the public responds to this. Red or not, many in the State won’t take well to assault, even on a reporter.

    • He will probably get defeated….but I would have to say…….if I had a reporter barge in to a meeting, uninvited and would not leave…..will get body slammed. News media do not deserve special treatment.

      I bet if a protester barged in and demanded answers, uninvited, and got body slammed everyone woud say he deserved it.

      Reporters today feel that they are entitled and I can see where it gets on people’s nerves. I simply do not talk to them on the border. Being a person in charge, I just laugh at them and walk away. They do not deserve anything and that is the way I feel about the level of reporting today…..

      So, while I think that he was wrong in one sense,…..he was right in another….but he will pay the price.

      • By the way, I would be happy to debate this particular subject.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        d13

        He lost his temper and shouldn’t have. I saw other videos of this same reporter bird dogging the candidate in other venues. The official simply ignored him and moved on. One time telling the reporter he was there to visit with voters not with the press.

        His action is understandable but not excusable. If I were still living there it would not stop me from voting for him, however. He will have to apologize and probably pay a fine, if not some damages.

        I think the press have a job to do but they have lost their manners as well. I don’t like those ambush interviews, for example, no matter who does them. Jesse Waters doing that for O’ Riely for example.

        A good media consultant would teach you not to alway ignore the press. You use them to get out YOUR story. Know what 1 to 3 points you want to make, 1 is best, and just repeat it no matter what question they ask. Just restate the point in a different form that seems kind of like the question.

        I do have one other comment about the reporter who got his butt kicked. He said to another reporter that he doesn’t want to be part of the story. Yet the videos I saw he is always making faces and expressions to show his dislike for the person being interviewed. He was always leading the discussion with favorable interviews to get what he wanted. AND, in the current video of his butt kicking he immediately starts screaming, “you grabbed my throat and you broke my glasses”. Now, how many people do you know that just got whooped unexpectedly and lie there yelling about their broken glasses?

        My point, he wanted to make sure somebody got him on tape making the accusations. In case nobody had the visual recorded. He wanted to be the story all along. He just didn’t expect the whoopin. I am guessing he hoped to get video of the candidate or his security people shoving him out of the room.

        Which brings me to what the candidate should have done. Let his security deal with the guy. Of course in Montana and Idaho, we don’t run around with body guards. We tend to act as our own security.

        • “He lost his temper and shouldn’t have.” I agree, he should not have. But all through the years, I have seen on this blog, reasons for this or that. For example, how many times do I have to read that our meddling in the ME causes the issue with ISIS striking out. So, let me flip this around…what finally pushed this man to the edge? ( No Mathius, no arguments of wrongs making right and no argument that he should be held to a higher standard…thanking you in advance). We are all human, according to everyone on here ( not me of course, I have been told numerous times that Colonel’s are not human….we are S.I.B.’s…points if you get it ), and we all have our breaking point. I do not cut any slack to reporter behaviour. He was uninvited.

          “A good media consultant would teach you not to alway ignore the press. You use them to get out YOUR story. Know what 1 to 3 points you want to make, 1 is best, and just repeat it no matter what question they ask. Just restate the point in a different form that seems kind of like the question.” An equally good media consultant, even one trained in the Mathius School of Media Matters, would know that no one is going to talk to the media from the military. All information comes from an information officer and in a typed page of what we want said. They do not get to ask us questions nor demand answers. The media does not have that right.

          “Which brings me to what the candidate should have done. Let his security deal with the guy. Of course in Montana and Idaho, we don’t run around with body guards. We tend to act as our own security.” Good points, all.

          • Mathius says:

            No Mathius, no arguments of wrongs making right and no argument that he should be held to a higher standard…thanking you in advance

            Request denied.

            A) elected officials should be held to a higher standard than the general populace.

            B) you do not get to initiate violence as a response to non-physical behavior. Period. Full stop. I do not accept that behavior from my 4 year old when my 1 year old takes her toys, I’m not going to accept it from Montana’s representative.

            For example, how many times do I have to read that our meddling in the ME causes the issue with ISIS striking out.

            It’s certainly (mostly) true.

            But – and I’m not sure how many times I have to say this – just because someone else does something wrong does not make it ok.

            Also, for what it’s worth, the US does initiate violence in the ME all the time. We drop bombs left and right and classify everyone we kill as terrorists. But from their perspective, we’re just attacking them. We also fund regional dictators and arm and train their enemies.

            We’ve been trying to kill them (in various iterations) for decades. It should hardly be surprising that they’re lashing out.

            As a well-known pirate might say: We are the hegemonic power, and the onus is on us.

            In 15-20 years, half the planet is going to be driving electric cars and using solar power and the price of oil/gas is going to bottom out (sorry Colonel, you should cash out while you can). When that happens, the river of money that flows through the ME financing these operations (*cough Saudi Arabia *cough*) is going to evaporate. When the ME is no longer strategically important, the governments there (sans Israel, probably) will all collapse and, with them, Hezbola, ISIS, AQ, etc. Shortly thereafter, we’re going to have a shot a peace.

            Otherwise, it’ll become war-torn central Africa 2.0. But either way, it’s not going to remain a global issue of terrorism.

            I do not cut any slack to reporter behaviour. He was uninvited.

            Yet again.

            Two wrongs do not make a right.

            He was being a jerk. He deserved to be escorted out by authorities. He did not deserve to be physically attacked.

            They ]the media] do not get to ask us [army folk] questions nor demand answers. The media does not have that right.

            Bullshit.

            The media has every right to ask anyone anything.

            You might not have the right to answer, depending on your situation.

            And you certainly have no obligation to answer.

            What you can’t do is physically assault someone for asking you a question. No, not even if he’s rude and out of bounds in doing so.

            “Which brings me to what the candidate should have done. Let his security deal with the guy. Of course in Montana and Idaho, we don’t run around with body guards. We tend to act as our own security.” Good points, all.

            Personally, I would have gone with a suplex..

      • Mathius says:

        He will probably get defeated

        I doubt it.

        2/3rds of the votes have already been submitted, supposedly. He was favored by, if I recall correctly, 14pts. In Montana.

        I think he could probably have executed the guy on national tv and still eked out a win.

        The real interesting thing is going to be the extent of the win.

  30. So……let’s see…the President’s budget increases most everything but is considered a cut because it slows growth.

  31. Mathius says:

    I cut Mathius a lot of slack because of his age.
    -Our Resident Colonel

    Just how young do you think I am, exactly??

    Mathius’ views are not due to his “youth”. He will not use that as an excuse and neither should you, or any of us.
    -JAC

    Damn straight.

    I am right because I am right, or I am wrong because I’m wrong.

    If my logic is good, it is good. If my logic is bad, it’s bad.

    I neither want, nor accept additional “slack” due to my age.

    By that same reasoning, I will not spare D13 just because he’s a senile old fuddy-duddy. 🙂

    • Mathius, given the fact that you have a four year old and taking an assumption that you waited a little later in life to have a child…..my guess is around 30.

      A senile fuddy duddy? That is your best? Sigh……… I don’t even rate crotchety old bastard? And, i will have you know…I am not senile……………………….oh look….a squirrell.

      • Mathius says:

        You’re not far off. I’m rounding the corner on 34.

        But I’ll remind you that Elizabeth Montgomery was my first crush growing up, so we’re probably not that far apart, you and I.

        How about “senile old coot.” I’ve always enjoyed that one.

        • Ok….I will compromise….I can live with senile old coot.

          True true to Elizabeth Montgomery….she made a sexy witch and an even better Lizzy Borden….I was also partial to Mary Tyler Moore, as you and I have discussed before….in Dick Van Dyke. Not her later tv sitcoms.

          Dawn Wells on Gilligans Island was not bad……there are a couple more back then that had that wholesome, could be really nasty, look about them.

    • It is important to be able to do that. The Concentration Camp guards as Auschwitz would make similar jokes about the dead bodies and God forbid if a guy died with an erection. Hilarity all around for the third Reich. De-humanize the people you kill.

  32. gmanfortruth says:

    Nearly two-thirds of Americans say the mainstream press is full of fake news, a sentiment that is held by a majority of voters across the ideological spectrum.

    According to data from the latest Harvard-Harris poll, which was provided exclusively to The Hill, 65 percent of voters believe there is a lot of fake news in the mainstream media.

    That number includes 80 percent of Republicans, 60 percent of independents and 53 percent of Democrats. Eighty-four percent of voters said it is hard to know what news to believe online.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/334897-poll-majority-says-mainstream-media-publishes-fake-news

    Watched DiBlasio say kids will die under healthcare bill. If Liberals want to know why they are losing elections, it’s stupid comments like this and Shumer’s about the budget issue.

  33. Canine Weapon says:

    Well, I guess that’s one way of dealing with a hostile press…

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/greg-gianforte-bodyslams-reporter-ben-jacobs-montana

    In related news, Trump has reportedly just tapped John Cena as Sean Spicer’s replacement.

    • I wonder. the story has already changed from yesterday. he did not apparently grab him by the neck. But one does wonder, exactly how do you get rid of uninvited guests? The one time I had to expel some piece of dreck from my office, I actually used an old method. I grabbed his jacket from the rear between the the shoulders in my left hand, his belt in my right half dragged, half carried and threw him out the door.

  34. Mathius says:

    JAC,

    And I must say, his rants are a lot easier to swallow than Black Flags. Although they do take on a certain similarity at times.

    I can’t tell whether to take that as a compliment or an insult.

    But all in all, he is a great asset to this blog. – Colonel

    That, I’ll take as a compliment.

    Maybe I’ll print it out and put it on my wall. 😉

  35. Mathius says:

    JAC,

    Either you believe in the principle or you do not. You cannot say freedom and rights for me but not you just because somebody that looks like you committed a crime.

    Sorry, but stopping people only because they are brown colored and male, between 15 and 50, is a violation of reasonable search. It is a violation of our right to privacy. If those men turn out to be citizens you have violated their American Rights.

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Is stopping people to search their belongings going into a ball game reasonable? ( And I don’t want the answer as long as it is everybody…because that won’t fly with me….it is a presumption of guilty til proven innocent ).

      • Mathius says:

        Sorry for this: “as long as it is everybody.”

        Just to be clear, I’m find with extra scrutiny (“profiling,” if you will) for controllable non-religious behavior.

        Wearing a bulky heavy vest in the middle of a heat wave? Yea, you’re gonna get a pat down.

        Appearing to be middle eastern: nope.

        Walking across the border with a backpack and sneakers: yup.

        Wearing a turban: nope.

        Appearing to actively avoid security officers/patrols: yup.

        Being 25-40 and male: nope.

        Being a member of a known radical mosque: yup.

        Being a cousin to a member of a known radical mosque: nope.

        Approaching a high security area/person: yup.

        Looking “out of place” demographically: nope.

        Et cetera.

        • For the most part, I can see your point….there are a couple that would raise suspicion…..but, therein actually lies the problem…..eactive or proactive. How is it applied. it is, indeed, a dilemma and a conundrum.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          Wearing a turban: nope.

          Interesting that I have noticed that people who wear turbans here are not Muslim, but Sihk.

          Looking “out of place” demographically: nope.

          Yes, but not sure what you mean by demographically. Out of place as in not familiar or lost, one should offer assistance. That is still profiling though, LMAO 😀

    • What if profiling has reduced violent crime over 60 percent?

      • Mathius says:

        Genocide would also reduce violent crime (you know, afterward, anyway).

        You cannot argue morality from the perspective of efficaciousness.

        And that’s even assuming I bought – which I don’t – your 60% assertion..

        • Ok, as to my assertion, what would it take for you to believe it?

          • A government statistic? A State statistic? A statement from the TExas AG?

          • Mathius says:

            There are three kinds of lies:

            1. Lies.
            2. Damned lies.
            3. Statistics.

            🙂

            Go ahead, make your case.

            But I’ll warn you, even if it is true – even if you could prove it – I’m not going to side with violating people’s right just because “it works.” Simply killing them all would “work,” too – better, even – but you’re not on board with that, are you?

            • Of course not….I am not on board with killing all of them….just some of them…..we need the workers……………..ok ok….so that was bad. Funny, but bad.

              Now, that said. You answered as I thought. 10,000 angels sitting on my shoulder swearing I am right is not going to change anything. You and I are different in that I wish to be proactive…you wish to wait until something bad happens and let law enforcement deal with it. Proactive saves lives…..reactive usually does not. And I agree that there is a very slippery slope here….but it works. And, from what I have found, at least read in reports submitted to me and the countless interviews I have personally conducted….the legal residents actually had no problem. They admit that it is sometimes a hassle to be questioned but their attitude is that at least something is being done because, as you stated before, the illegal ones are creating a bad name for them all. I also saw a lot of hard feelings among the ones that did it correct or do not over stay visas and those that don’t. Something I bet you did not know…maybe you do….but down here I see a segregation among the illegal Hispanic population and the legal Hispanic population. Very interesting.

              Anyway, I will get you the exact stats and you can decide. Most of them come from the State AG and the FBI and local sheriffs.

            • EverStem13 says:

              “But I’ll warn you, even if it is true – even if you could prove it – I’m not going to side with violating people’s right just because “it works.” Simply killing them all would “work,” too – better, even – but you’re not on board with that, are you?”

              Violence is always the best default answer to getting anything done. You have all convinced me of that. It sucks to be them, remember?

              That being said, …

              Start with ‘those who call themselves’ Jews. I hate to admit it, but Hitler was probably right. Start where he left off, Kill them all first, then move to Christians, then to Muslims. After that, kill all the statists, then anyone with an IQ lower than 120, then kill anything that has reached puberty. Leave a few intelligent adult libertarians to teach them the difference.

              That should take care of most of humanity’s issues.

              I, personally, would prefer to just use the “Death Star” and kill everyone. But it’s in the shop right now.

  36. Canine Weapon says:
  37. Mathius says:

    Trump’s budget would cut off food for poor people if they have too many kids

    Link.

    While I appreciate that you shouldn’t be having kids if you can’t afford them, and you certainly shouldn’t be having seven or more kids if you can’t afford them, none of that seems to me to be the fault of the kids who would suffer as a result of this policy.

    I have often wondered why some people – and I’m sure they are statistically few and far between, even if they appear to be maddeningly prevalent – wind up poor and with 20 kids. How do you let that happen? Surely, at some point, you look around and say, you know, I should probably evaluate my choices here.

    I have two kids and they cost me a fortune. And I make a good living. And my wife works and makes a decent living.

    How do they do it?? WHY do they do it?

    How friggin’ hard is it to use contraceptives?

    But I digress… does it make sense to “punish” these kids? Just because you’re kid #12 doesn’t mean you don’t need to eat, does it?

    • I read the article and looked at the picture associated with it…..sure looks like they are underfed to me….(sarc intended).

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Does it make sense to punish me because of their personal choices???

      • EverStem13 says:

        They are punishing your grandchildren like you and every other united statian does. Everything government spends now is intended to be paid back with the labor/skill/time of future generations.

        If you consider that a punishment, then stop voting and being a statist.

    • “Surely, at some point, you look around and say, you know, I should probably evaluate my choices here.”

      They don’t HAVE to evaluate their choices because there will always be liberals that will give them free stuff and give their kids free stuff. Why would they do anything different when they can continue their promiscuous ways with no consequences for their actions?
      Free stuff for everyone!

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Trump’s budget would cut off food for poor people if they have too many kids (Liberal media nonsense)

      Truth: The administration’s plan would cap the maximum monthly benefits for all families at the current threshold for a family of six, Young said.

      NYP’s misleading headline is just another reason why they are fake news just looking fro clicks. Why do Liberal’s mislead so often? and why would you post such a misleading fake news story?

  38. According to DHS status indicators, over 220,000 criminal aliens have been booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and April 30, 2017. During their criminal careers, these criminal aliens were charged with more than 586,000 criminal offenses. Those arrests include 1,196 homicide charges; 69,693 assault charges; 16,996 burglary charges; 69,931 drug charges; 707 kidnapping charges; 41,143 theft charges; 45,535 obstructing police charges; 3,873 robbery charges; 6,274 sexual assault charges; and 8,804 weapons charges. Of the total criminal aliens arrested in that timeframe, over 146,000 or 66% were identified by DHS status as being in the US illegally at the time of their last arrest.

    According to DPS criminal history records, those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 263,000 convictions including 492 homicide convictions; 26,186 assault convictions; 8,317 burglary convictions; 34,454 drug convictions; 240 kidnapping convictions; 18,686 theft convictions; 22,389 obstructing police convictions; 1,978 robbery convictions; 2,848 sexual assault convictions; and 3,657 weapons convictions. Of the convictions associated with criminal alien arrests, over 175,000 or 66% are associated with aliens who were identified by DHS status as being in the US illegally at the time of their last arrest.

    Tx DPS reports that 2017 first quarter illegal criminal charges have dropped in all categories by an average of 74% compared to the first quarter of 2016.

    Between 2008 and 2014, 40% of all murder convictions in Florida were criminal illegal aliens. In New York it was 34% and Arizona 17.8%.
    During those years, criminal illegal aliens accounted for 38% of all murder convictions in the five states of California, Texas, Arizona, Florida and New York, while illegal aliens constitute only 5.6% of the total population in those states.
    That 38% represents 7,085 murders out of the total of 18,643.
    The GAO and the DOJ have reported an increase of 39.8% of criminal illegal alien murders since 2015 in the same five states with the exception of Texas which has reduced the total number of illegal criminal activity by 72%.

    Note by D13: There is a discrepancy of 2% between the GAO and the DOJ compared to the reports from the TxDPS but the point is the dramatic reduction in these types of crimes since the change of arrest procedures in Texas.

    .

  39. EverStem13 says:

    Anything based on a false faulty or incomplete premise will produce that which is false faulty or incomplete, hence the value of truth.

    If you are going to profile anyone for security/terrorism concerns, it should be your own government and it’s allies.

  40. Just A Citizen says:
  41. gmanfortruth says:
  42. gmanfortruth says:

    Democrat loses election in Montana and Liberal reporter learns valuable lesson in manners, all within 2 days. Good day for Montanan’s!

  43. gmanfortruth says:
  44. Mathius…..let’s you and I discuss this briefly…Please ignore the caps….I do not know how to bold my text on here.

    “They ]the media] do not get to ask us [army folk] questions nor demand answers. The media does not have that right.

    Bullshit. (WHY BULLSHIT)

    The media has every right to ask anyone anything. (AGAIN, WHY? JUST BECAUSE IT IS THEIR JOB? WE DID NOT LEARN OUR LESSON VERY WELL IN VIETNAM WITH IMBEDDED MEDIA. WE DID IT AGAIN IN DESERT STORM ( KUWAIT ). IT WAS A COMMANDER’S DECISION TO ALLOW MEDIA OR NOT TO ALLOW IT. IT WAS VERY SIMPLE FOR ME, AS A COMMANDER. I SIMPLY SAID NO….THEN I CHANGED MY MIND AND SAID, IF YOU CAN KEEP UP, YOU ARE WELCOME. BUT YOU DO NEED YOUR OWN ASSETS. YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE ALLOWED MILITARY ASSETS TO DO YOU PERCEIVE TO BE YOUR JOB AND I DO NOT HAVE TIME NOR THE INCLINATION TO BABY SIT. NEEDLESS TO SAY, I HAD NO IMBEDDED MEDIA.

    You might not have the right to answer, depending on your situation.(CORRECT, WE HAVE SECURITY ISSUES AND IT IS THE PRECEDURE TO NOT ANSWER AND REFER TO THE INFORMATION OFFICER, WHO ALSO DOES NOT GIVE PERSONAL INTERVIEWS. IT IS ALWAYS WRITTEN AND PASSED OUT. THE REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE THE MEDIA TAKES LIBERTIES IN THE NAME OF EDITING. THEY LIE AND THEY DO IT PURPOSELY AND WE KNOW IT). THIS IS PROBABLY WHY YOU WILL NOT SEE THE MEDIA VERY MUCH IMBEDDED ANY LONGER.

    And you certainly have no obligation to answer. (TRUE, NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND SHOULD TALK TO THEM ANYWAY).

    What you can’t do is physically assault someone for asking you a question. No, not even if he’s rude and out of bounds in doing so. ( I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE WITH CAVEAT. FIRST OF ALL, THE MEDIA KNOWS NOT TO APPROACH MILITARY PERSONNEL FOR INTERVIEWS. THEY KNOW THIS AS A PRE-REQUISITE FOR GETTING ON POST OR EVEN BEING IN THE AREA. BUT YOU HAVE REPORTERS, MOST OF THEM, THAT IGNORE THE RULES AND SHOUT AND SHOVE AND PUSH. i HAVE HAD MICROPHONES SHOVED IN MY FACE AND EVEN HIT MY FACE WHEN THEY KNEW THE RULES. I WILL ALWAYS GRAB THE MIKE OR THE CAMERA AND THROW IT DOWN IF IT IS IN MY SPACE. THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO THIS. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO INVADE MY SPACE AND THEY HAVE NO RIGHT IGNORE THE RULES. NONE, END OF SENTENCE FULL STOP. BY SHOVING A MICROPHONE IN MY FACE AND SHOUTING WHEN THEY ARE NOT EVEN SUPPSED TO BE THERE DEMANDS PHYSICAL RESPONSE…..PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY NOT?

    Thanking you in advance, I remain, Sincerely….The Colonel

    • Now, admittingly, I usually have two very ominous looking and fit escorts with me at all times when media is present. Even then, the media personnel will still ignore the rules and they usually pay the price. I have seen an awful lot of camera equipment ruined. It usually does not survive and forced fall of six feet at mach four from a Raptor sized escort. I now have a very firm reputation that the media usually knows…..do not get in his face. You will get no answers and probably roughed up.

    • EverStem13 says:

      One position I have issue with, that has been espoused a lot, is that violence is only in the form of physical force. Violence take on many forms, and qualifies as violence any time rights are violated.

      Harassment can be/is a form of violence.

      Shoving a camera or mic in your face, in spite of an understanding that it is not welcome, while you are trying to do anything, is a form of harassment, violence.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        Harassment can be/is a form of violence.

        Kind of like continuing to espouse a position that has been rejected time and time again in an attempt to shame/harass people into believing in your ideology?

        Yea, we know 🙂

        • EverStem13 says:

          No, I conceded to your position, remember. Have you not been paying attention.

          Magic special words and bullshit on paper, along with religious ceremony and funny clothes, indeed gives a ‘right’ to use force for whatever transient purposes are convenient, and consent or rights or the value of life are not important.

          Might makes right, ..Sucks to be them, right?

          …or should I argue the other end of it, and posit that no one has a right to violate, either by proxy or directly, as an organization or otherwise, thus constituting invocation of the right to defense against a violent criminal gang of billions.

          …or is that too complicated for you, Gman?

  45. EverStem13 says:

    @Flag & Colonel Snowflake

    Re; Valentines day comment.

    I wasn’t talking about her. I was talking about me.

  46. JAC……ok, you and I get to spar a little……

    I am an advocate….a strong advocate of proactive instead of reactive. I prefer not to wait for something to happen. I am putting on my civilian hat on this one because proactive in the military is entirely different.

    Let’s talk immigration….illegal immigration. I posted some numbers above ( Yes, I know that they will probably not be accepted but I try very hard not to fudge my positions ) relating to what I would term a proactive approach and the numbers prove it. I also understand that in being proactive, it is quite possible to infringe upon some rights. But, I look at it like a police alcohol approach on a popular holiday night or weekend. They try to be proactive in setting up impromptu check points to catch drunk drivers. It is an inconvenience, but if I am stopped at a check point, I do not see nor do I feel an infringement upon my rights.

    There are certain signs that trained personnel can spot. For example, if you see a pickup truck with 6 Hispanics in the back…..there is a 90% chance they are illegal. So, I ask you, what do you do to enforce the law? Let them go until they commit a crime? And like it or not, crossing the “imaginary line” is a crime just as climbing over your backyard fence is a crime. Where do you want to draw the line? A group of hispanics sitting around a Home Depot or a Lowes looking for day work is hurting nobody but, if they are illegal, it is still a crime and who knows what happens by night with petty thefts and things……even if it is just to get something to eat.

    Now, my generation is pretty black and white in its thinking, I admit that. It either is or it is not. There is no in between. It is the same analogy of, “you cannot be a little bit pregnant”. To me, there are no degrees in anything. It is a crime to steal….whether it is an apple or it is a Cadillac. It is not the object stolen, it is the crime committed. Why is not the same in immigration and people? If the facts and statistics show that a large majority of ( you pick the race or culture ) is committing crimes, why, in your mind, is it not a good thing to profile on the off chance that you might stop a citizen doing nothing but going to work. Profiling does not work like that…..you do not stop a single person driving on the street because they are brown or black or rainbow….you do not look in a movie line and pick out ( whatever color ) just because they fit a certain aspect. But you do stop car loads, and pick up trucks full of people, Lowes and HOme Depot day labor, go to construction sites and check day labor, go to the fields and check day labor…why> Because that is where you find them. It is like hunting and fishing….to use your analogy, you don’t hunt bears in New York City. Now, it is possibe that you will have citizens doing day labor but they are not taken in if they have their ID.

    But one thing that has stood out greatly. With the elimination of tent cities and barrios in Texas, we reduced crime, hard crime, dramatically. I understand the slippery slope argument and can even agree with it……….but where do you start and how do you stop it if not profiling. You can change the law…that would work but until the law is changed, how do you justify not following it? How do you justify enforcing one law and not the other. ( You know I am not talking about spitting on the sidewalk )…..

    So……I ask?

    • Just A Citizen says:

      d13thecolonel

      Let’s start here: ” But, I look at it like a police alcohol approach on a popular holiday night or weekend. They try to be proactive in setting up impromptu check points to catch drunk drivers. It is an inconvenience, but if I am stopped at a check point, I do not see nor do I feel an infringement upon my rights.”

      It is an absolute violation of my rights, your rights, everyone’s rights. It is absolute BS and the judges who sanctified this practice should have been tarred and feathered, then sent to Europe in a leaky boat.

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        People forget that driving is a PRIVILEGE not a “Right”.

        Europe is pretty strict when it comes to drinking and driving, and I mean drinking not drunk. Though not perfect and people abuse and stretch laws anywhere, it was very rare for a person to drive after drinking and especially drunk in Italy. Why……all insurance is null and void where any alcohol is present at any level on either driver. One becomes PERSONALLY liable for all damages including medical. That certainly got people attention. When I was there in the 1970’s, if an American serviceman got into trouble with a drinking accident where injuries were incurred, the command turned you over to the Italians and would not and I repeat would not assist in anyway if the charges were valid. After incarceration the Navy was waiting with open arms to escort you to the brig accompanied with charges of being absent without leave. That seriously was enforced and people thought more than twice about drinking and then climbing behind the wheel of a car.

        • Yes, the military has been quite intolerant even though you have elisted clubs and officers clubs. It was the same in Germany and it was the same in Belgium. It was the same in Saudi. You were subject to the local laws and then you were subject to the UCMJ and there was no appeal….unless you are Berghdal or some other traitor, then the laws do not seem to apply.

          • You know…one thing that I found to be interesting. They could draft you at age 18….send you to Vietnam, give you a rifle, tell you to kill the enemy…….and then enforce a 21 years of age drinking rule (except for beer) at the rear areas. I just remembered that. Saigon, CamRahn Bay. Da Nang….NhaTrang…..

            But the same 18 year old could go to the brothels and buy local hooch…but have to be 21 on base…..

      • ok JAC…..we can start there. Here is how I interpret your answer.

        Driving while intoxicated is obviously a right, in your mind. You have a right to drink and you have a priviledge to drive. As I understand your logic, while it is not adviseable to drink and drive, you have the absolute right to do so. You say that it is a violation of a civil right to have alcohol patrol on local and state highways to catch drunk drivers….. and that would, I believe, include waiting on streets and highways for people to leave a bar and then pull them over.

        So, to me, that makes the obvious answer…….be reactive after the fact. Wait until someone is killed and then……..do what? Send flowers?

        • Just A Citizen says:

          d13thecolonel

          “Driving while intoxicated is obviously a right, in your mind.” NOPE.

          I did not say a “patrol” was a violation. You proposed those “check points” where everyone is stopped and searched. That is not a “patrol”.

          Patrol all you want. In fact triple the “patrol” on Friday and Saturday night, 4th of July, etc. When you see someone driving erratically or showing obvious signs, pull them over and check.

          And when you pull them over for suspicion of drunk driving your search had better stop right there. At determining whether drunk or not.

          Now, since a stop required ID and proof of insurance, something I think is UNREASONABLE, but since everyone does it, you might find someone with outstanding warrants or a person who can’t speak English with No ID.

          • Texas, periodically, will set up check points at particular known places. I am not an advocate of that but I am not an advocate of after the fact either. The DPS does courtesy safety check points as well….epsecially on holidays where people are taking long hard drives. They have coffee, donuts and safety checks for tires etc. They cone off the highway and people drive up and through at slow speeds. They are asked if they are tired, need coffee, sleep….whatever. This also seems to work….trained eyes spot a lot of things. This also seems to work. Word gets around and accidents and DUI’s have decreased significantly.

            In addition, the majority, some say as much as 70%, used to be illegals. That has been cut down to almost zero in the last three years……it works and people do not seem to mind…

            • I might add, that they are not required to get out of cars or anything else…..but will be pulled over if there is something that is not “right”. License plates are checked as cars drive through. You would be surprised what we find. All I can tell you….Texas is an independent State….you know this….but these things work and the people are not worried about it. Not yet because it is not abused…but results speak volumes.

              • Also, it is said that about 25-30 % of drivers actually pull over to stretch their legs for free coffee and donuts……chocolate donuts with sprinkles.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              In this part of the country the safety stops are operated by veterans groups. Sometimes a local church or Lions Club. Not the police.

  47. Just A Citizen says:

    Nailed it:

    “It took all of one day for those on the left to swing from lectures on not labeling an entire group as violent, to holding one man up as proof a group is violent. Following the Manchester bombing we were given the expected cant on not blaming Muslims, yet following a one-on-one altercation a sole politician became proof the entirety of the GOP promotes physical assault.” (Red State)

  48. Just A Citizen says:

    Mathius

    What do you think of this quote? Doesn’t exactly support your arguments, it seems to me.

    “It is false and counterproductive to claim that the actions of al-Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram and other such groups have nothing to do with Islam, or merely represent a perversion of Islamic teachings. They are, in fact, outgrowths of Wahhabism and other fundamentalist streams of Sunni Islam.”

    • Just A Citizen says:

      And there is this one as well:

      “Muslims face a choice between starkly different visions of the future. Will they strive to recreate the … Caliphate – and thus seek to restore Islamic supremacy – as reflected in … orthodox, authoritative Islam? Or will they strive to develop a new religious sensibility that reflects the actual circumstances of our modern civilization, and contributes to the emergence of a truly just and harmonious world order, founded upon respect for the equal dignity and rights of every human being?”

    • Mathius says:

      What do you think of this quote?

      I think it’s simplistic.

      Religion is just a manifestation of whatever bronze-age mythology was fed to you as a child. It’s superstition, no different than the Greek, Norse, or Egyptian pantheons.

      Why should I consider it reasonable to believe that there’s a god out there who, at one point, drowned the entire planet yet left no evidence, but it is nuts to suggest that there’s a god out there who turned himself into a swan, raped some woman named Leda, and forced her to bear him two children?

      It’s all nuts.

      All of it.

      N-U-T-S. Nuts.

      But here’s the thing. It’s complicated nuts. There’s a lot of doctrine, history, source material, expanded beliefs, and culture. Tons of it. There is so much to pick and choose from. Too much, in point of fact. As a result, religion, in and of itself, is simply a mirror for its practitioners. I have read the primary sources cover to cover and spent a sizable amount of time trying to understand what they say, and what they might have meant in context.

      I can support a violent, aggressive view of expansionist Judaism on par with anything any Muslim has ever said or done. I can support a similar interpretation of Christianity (though it’s harder (though not impossible) if I want to model myself after that Jesus guy.. he was pretty nice). And I can support a similar interpretation of Islam.

      Conversely, I can support a peaceful vision of all three.

      Religion is a mirror.

      I say all that to say this: desperate angry people with an ax to grind will look into their holy books and find support for an angry aggressive vision of their god. Other people will find a kind and loving god.

      Isn’t it interesting how everyone seems to know that God is on their side? And everyone knows that God just so happens to want the same things they do? And everyone is just so fucking sure of themselves. Isn’t it interesting that America is one nation under god – surely the countries we’re bombing the shit out of are also “under god,” too, no? Or is he on our side? Or do we just think he is because we have looked into our mirror and seen, not god, but our own beliefs and attributed them to him?

      Wahhabism is a fundamentalist and intrinsically extreme vision of Islam, but it is one which derives, ultimately, from the desperation, and anger of the people who practice it.

      The problem isn’t the religion. The Klan and the Westboro Baptist Church are no more indicative of Christianity than are AQ indicative of Islam. The problem is angry desperate people who are being manipulated by powerful interests.

      There’s a Hermann Göring quote which rings relevant here: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood.[…] the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

      The people are just human beings. They are, fundamentally, no different than you or I. They just want to live in peace. They just want to tend their fields. It is only because they’re poor and uneducated and desperate that their leaders have been able to point at us and denounce us as their enemies – as the enemies of their faith and the cause of their suffering – and by this means are brought to heel, turned from pacifists to militants. It is this darkening of the mirror which is the cause and source of all suffering at the hands of Islam.

      Islam has nothing to do with it. They might as well be worshipers of the sun god Ra for all the actual religion matters.

      Islam is just a convenient excuse.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Mathius

        BOTH quotes are from Muslims. Muslim youth and leadership in fact, who were meeting in Indonesia to discuss what needs to change in Islam to rid it of the violence.

        Yes, that sound was the very large bear trap snapping shut on your leg.

        • Mathius says:

          If you don’t think I knew full well that I was walking into a trap, you must have a very low estimate of me.

          I do not concede that your “trap” has successfully caught my leg. Just because they happen to be Muslim does not make them right. They are just as capable of having an overly-simplistic view of Islam as you are of Christianity.

          But at least you know that, when hunting for Mathius, you set your traps for bear.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Mathius

        I also see you have had the kool-aid my friend. You indicated that religion is used by those who are desperate. You said the same for the Wahhabi sect

        Those who create these movements are not desperate or poor or abused. Maybe some join in if they feel like part of a family, like gang members. But the violence starts with the leadership, not the downtrodden.

        There was nothing about poverty that led to Whhabi. It was dislike of western culture and the hard core conservative viewpoint that the Original Islam needed to be enforced to protect the population from the sinful western culture.

        Viking chieftans and Kings used Christianity to unite the tribes into a unified Kingdom. Another example where desperation and poverty had nothing to do with the violence perpetrated under the name of religion.

  49. gmanfortruth says:

    It’s now been scientifically proven that the wimpier the guy, the more likely he is to be a socialist. No kidding.

    According to a new study, physically weaker men are more prone to support socialism, a trend psychologists say may be because they feel they can’t compete against stronger men and are therefore consider inequality more threatening.

    According to the Times, U.K., Brunel University ran a study on 171 men, measuring everything from their strength, height, weight and even bicep circumference. What the university found was that the physically inferior men tended to be the ones who said they supported the redistribution of wealth.

    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/new-study-finds-wimpier-guys-are-more-likely-be-socialists?

  50. I keep thinking how much worse and insane can it become—obviously a lot. Now who in this scenario is demanding to be privileged – sure as hell isn’t the white professor.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/05/26/police-tell-prof-hes-in-danger-for-not-participating-in-campus-no-whites-day/

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      Just think of the hue and cry if whites had a white only day anywhere, especially on a campus. At my last workplace, they had all sorts of special days for all sorts of ethnicities and genders…….except one and that was white males, even though we were definitly a minority in the organization even here in NC. Taking our whole global group, whites were a definitely minor minority.

  51. Canine Weapon says:

  52. I see California decided not to go for it. Traitors to the cause of Progressivness.

  53. gmanfortruth says:

  54. gmanfortruth says:

  55. JAC……do I detect from you a dislike for the police or state police? Or is it that you fear it is an inroad to a police state, to have LE work close with the civies? You seem very concerned that they are involved in a lot of things.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      d13thecolonel

      I do not dislike the police. I have absolutely no problem with police in general. I am friends with many LEOs. I was even temporarily deputized once to guard our small community against an escaped violent felon on the run. Kind of like the “militia” being called out on that one.

      I dislike many of the laws which they are charged to enforce. Those laws, and thus the police by extension, violate our Rights. And I dislike it when LEOs get out of bounds in the name of preventing crime or supposedly catching criminals.

      I do NOT subscribe to the idea that our rights are subject to some “overwhelming or compelling government need” as the Courts have said. Basic Rights are sacred, not to be violated. Otherwise they are not basic rights that come from our existence but permission granted by Govt.

      The Courts have also established this standard by which the LEO word is considered sacred, without overwhelming evidence to the contrary. My word against his, I lose everytime. Thus the supposed witness has the ultimate power to trump my own defense. Of course this wouldn’t be a problem if LEOs were not humans and subject to the same flaws as the rest of us.

      My only problem with the police is abuse of power. Which means it is usually individuals but it can be entire departments. Other than outright corruption I think much of that abuse comes from a sense of wanting to PREVENT crime. It is the same mindset that leads our intelligence agencies to abuse their power. As humans we sometimes get carried away in our desire to prevent bad things. This includes making bad laws and bad enforcement of even good laws.

      Side note here: When condemning police for brutality or bad practices today we often create a false narrative about how LE has digressed. The police of the good ol’ days were often far more arbitrary, abusive and violent than today’s LEO.

      Check points is a violation of rights and thus an abuse of power. Patrolling for drunk drivers is not. Neither would sitting outside a bar and waiting for the obvious drunk to walk to his/her car. I also happen to believe that the drunk driving laws themselves are a violation of our Rights. You are convicted of a crime that involves no harm to anyone or anything. That is absurd. And notice that since mad mothers demanded those laws the “criteria” for drunk driving keeps changing. To the point where many would not actually be impaired.

      I posted here long ago that I thought the drunk driving issue should be resolved by taking the person home, at their expense, or leaving them in the tank until sober. That is those who are driving badly and showing obvious signs. I have also supported the idea that insurance companies could deny coverage if you cause an accident and are considered “impaired”.

      I also hate speed traps. Something about them reeks of laziness and intimidation. It also smells of demand to generate revenue, which I see as corruption. I notice these traps go up on a monthly or quarterly basis. The LE agency knows it can pump some money by hanging out in certain areas. If it were really all about safety and prevention then all they need to do is patrol up and down that piece of road. So this I see as an abuse.

      Our country has devolved to this point where we look to Govt. law for the slightest problems. The pile of those laws constantly conflict with Basic Natural Rights. This means either the laws must go or the rights must go. If the rights can go then we are admitting the concept of natural rights is invalid.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      d13

      I am also not opposed, and actually support, LEOs working with civilian groups on many things. My comment on the safety stations was not to criticize the police. I was only pointing out that around these parts the civilians run them. The coffee is free but the cookies and donuts “ask for a donation”. One stop along the interstate in Washington has awesome cookies. I usually leave a Five Spot for 4 cookies. The USMC auxiliary often mans that station.

  56. These are the sixty-six faces of young men from the 20th US Army Air Force Fighter Group stationed at Kings Cliffe UK . 1942-1945 who never came home to use the GI Bill, Get Married, Raise kids, Buy a home, Buy their first New Car, Have a major fight with their wife, Walk out, Come back, Watch their son strike out for the first time, Attend their daughters dance recital, Walk the daughter down the aisle, hold back tears as their son left for the draft, Toss their first grandchild in the air, Retire, Kick back and relax after a long well spent life. May God Bless and keep them. May we remember them and the life they gave us.

  57. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    I love the news coming out of Sicily ahead of the G7 conference in Taormina. All NGO migrants boats will be banned from entering Sicily, out of concerns for the security and safety of the “leaders” while they are meeting. What about the people has been the question, before and after? Bottom line these sanctimonious leaders do not give a rats ass about the people…..It’s all about their personal power and the puppet masters behind them,

    The message is that we can not allow this to change our culture, but it drastically does daily…..we have to be more tolerant…..WHY? Watched an expose out of Milan the other day……why are the people just rolling over? Why did Macron so overwhelmingly get elected when he promised more immigration and the cause of liberty in France for the French is dead.

    Over the last several evenings I watched a police series called “Wallander” It is based in Sweden but with british actors and production. An odd thing being a crime show, they in every instance when religion appeared to be a factor in the crime…..Christianity was portrayed as a fanatical cult, while Islam was portrayed as victims.

    • I believe that Forrest Gump’s mama had it correct……” Stupid is as stupid does “.

      John Wayne confirmed it……” Ya just can’t fix stupid.”

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        A recent poll in France/Paris…..50% of the women have changed their fashions/garb when going out in public to avoid being harrassed or worse. When women in France complain about being harassed and groped or worse, they’re told to be more tolerant. The EU is considering any post that is against the immigration policies etc are to be taken down and also considered a hate crime, which is prosecutible…..Even minor political discussion of official policies is considered a hate crime. Just look at the pillaring that is happening to the two Swedish police officers who dared to speak up. You can only tighten down the steam safety valve just so far before the pressure pot explodes.

        The G7 conference in Taormina banning any immigration during the conference out of safety and security concerns for the leaders (leaders used sarcastically) is the same resort area that I commented on the other year that has taken to arresting, prosecuting, fining girls who wore legal bikini’s at a public beach for offending Muslim people who insist that their women cover up completely……from what I just heard is that the mafia is fighting back. Funny, how that is how it got its start by protecting the people and giving justice against the Rome policies and the absentee elite landlords.

        • EverStem13 says:

          Europeans need to start packing weapons. Once enough women fill enough pervs with holes, the crime rate will drop significantly.

          …or they can continue to depend on their governments that protect them by not wanting to talk about it.

  58. Remembering Memorial Day

    As I sit in my office at home, which I call my War Room, I am constantly reminded of days past. I have a painting behind my desk entitled “Reflections”. It actually is a print by Lee Teter. If you are interested, look it up. Surrounding this particular painting are all my memorabilia of that time. Probably the hardest time of my life….much harder than being in Kuwait, Bosnia, or Afghanistan. I was 21 and trying to figure things out. I was 21 and in charge of lives. Not everyone came home alive and that is something that I have to live with the rest of my life. The ghosts never fade. It is also hard on my significant other because as much as she wants to help, she cannot and I cannot explain to her why she cannot. She just knows that there are times to leave me alone. I simply tell her that there is nothing she can do, not because she does not want to, but because you cannot bring back the dead. you cannot erase the memories. It is what it is.

    I tell her, it really does not matter about why these things happen. It does not matter how good or bad the government is or is not. It is about truth and reality of life. So, in this time and on this weekend….my relfections do not consist of political crap. My relfections consist of the ones who fought.

    It is an exerpt from Flanders Field…

    “Sleep on, ye brave. The shrieking shell,
    The quaking trench, the startled yell,
    The fury of the battle hell
    Shall wake you not; for all is well.
    Sleep peacefully; for all is well.”

    D13 is very thankful for all those on SUFA. You are a family, believe it or not, and regardless of thought, deed, or position….I, for one, am grateful.

  59. Thank you Colonel, for everything. Oh, and I’m jealous of Mrs. Colonel, she made a good pick.

    Sorry, JAC. I started in your camp, but decided that your’s is the perfect world, and I’ve found myself in the Colonel’s camp more often than not. Your camp is the dream, the Colonel’s is reality, unfortunately.

    Hope everyone is enjoying this weekend. I’m stuck slaving away for Jeff Bezos, grrrr. Off tomorrow, though.

  60. From the Brits.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      My Father while teaching a course at Cambridge was most impressed by the lists of graduates from those colleges that died in WWII that had coincidentally signed petitions a few short years before, stating that they would NOT fight for King and Country.

    • Yes, from the Brits..

    • Yes, all of this is smoek filled coffee house crap. I say this……..do not consider any msm source reliable….none…………until sources are identified, I consider them lies.

      I see it all the time. Well, If I disclose the source, they might be killed..or it is a reporters right to keep sources confidential….

      D13 says……identify the source or keep your mouth shut and reporters should be denied protections. They should be sued for everything they have if their story proves to be untrue or the source lied and they protected the source…..in my book it makes them complicit. But then again, I look at reporters as something I stepped in at the ranch.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      I saw a nuanced change in the Democratic story line earlier this past week. A Congressman on one of the committees was being interviewed by CNN, if I remember correctly. When asked if all the “stuff” was going to lead to impeachment or resignation by Trump, the fella had an interesting response.

      He said he was not sure what would happen or if any evidence of criminal activity would be found. Then he said, it might come to pass that the investigations primary benefit will be in revealing areas where we need to improve our institutions and processes. Like the elections.

      Got that?? The Narrative was changed, ever so subtly. Yet nobody has expanded on this all week. But what has happened is many talking heads brought on for interviews or panels have toned down their rhetoric and the expectations of “impeachment”.

      It is my opinion the leadership has finally seen the writing on the wall. They ginned up a fury that could consume them if they don’t deliver. They are now in damage control, trying to dampen expectations in order to prevent losing the last support they have, the haters.

    • Note, the CNN talking head did not know what Strassel was talking about at the end of the segment. It’s all the news that fits your agenda..

      • I don’t think it was a matter of not knowing, she simply had no way of countering her true comments.

  61. Just A Citizen says:

    God Bless those not with us anymore. Semper Fi.

    Another “outsider’s” perspective.

  62. Just A Citizen says:

  63. Just A Citizen says:

  64. Last week Rush said what we are seeing is the impeachment or rather attempted impeachment of the entire Trump Administration (can’t get the head, cut off the arms and legs). Good point. Note, now we are “concerned” and “investigating” conversations Jared had with the Russkie ambassador AFTER the election! I thought we were concerned with what happened BEFORE the election and what influence they had BEFORE the election. I wanna know what conversations Comey had with teh Russians. I want to know if he ever used Russian Dressing or indicated favorability towards the color RED.

    Since it actually seems plausible that Seth Rich, the murdered DNC guy might have leaked the E-mails, cannot somebody in the Republican controlled government light a fire under the DC police and FBI? The FBI’s should be involved. Any hack of Podesta has obviously risen, due to the hue and cry, to national security status. For openers, where the hell is his computer?

  65. Sad but True! I simply can’t work up any indignation about the reporter being body slammed even though I know it was wrong. On balance, it just doesn’t equate.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/05/29/liberals-are-shocked-to-find-were-starting-to-hate-them-right-back-n2332712

    • One wonders that if in the late 1920’s people HAD stood up to Nazi’s if things might have turned out differently. That is Nazi’s as in National Socialist Democratic Workers Party. Note the buzz words, haven’t changed but they want to hang Nazi’s around OUR neck.!

  66. EverStem13 says:

    Over the course of the last several years I have discovered a lot of rather extraordinary things. I have also discovered things that your governments are doing that are very evil and corrupt.

    As I was digging through all of it, seeing all of these egregious things, I thought to myself;

    “God, if people only knew what they are really doing, …the people would bend over and take it in the rear like the complacent ignorant stupid moronic sheeple always do when those types of things are revealed.”

  67. Good morning all………..Remember, never wrestle with pigs. you both get dirty and the pig likes it.

    • Yabut, sometimes pigs leave slop behind. Downright rotten slop. It’s hard to leave the slop around, but I digress…..

      • Whoa!!!! Have you had your coffee yet?

        • I don’t do coffee or alcohol, but I have my Dew next to me. I’m gonna need a bunch today. Have a friend who lives alone. One week ago today he fell from a ladder 20 ft up onto concrete. Multiple broken ribs, broken clavicle, several vertebrae cracked, needs 24/7 care at the moment. Anita to the rescue, letting him stay with us til he can make it on his own. So I was up around 4am when that slop was slung. I need to make a roadtrip to PepsiCo HQ to get enough Dew to help me thru this rehab period.

          • Ah…good woman….no coffee. The Dew, however, is high octane.

          • Dale A. Albrecht says:

            Sorry about your friend…..but remember an old film “The Man Who Came to Dinner”

            • Not a worry in my mind about that. We’ve both been in the same neighborhood for our entire lives. He was a loyal employee of mine for at least 10 years. Hard worker, got hurt on the job. There are very few people I would allow to stay with us…he’s one. Thanks for the advice though. 😉

  68. Nancy Pelosi, this morning, denies the following:

    That the Russian interest of Uranium One obtained market control over 20% of US Uranium holdings fron Sec of State Clinton and the Obama administration, she further denied that Uranium One gave 7 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation. She denied that the Podesta Group had prior business dealings with Russia, and, for the coup de gras, she denied that Bill Clinton received $500,000 from Russia while wife Hillary was Secretary of State……………as it turns out ten times more than anything that Flynn did or has done.

    Amazing she is in power anywhere.

  69. Yesterday it was reported that the newly elected French President Macaroon, sat down at Versailles with Vladimir Putin. The purpose of the meeting was to cement closer ties to fight terrorism and discuss the future of Syria. France would like regime change but not at the cost of another failed state. It now has been reported by our left wing media that Macaroon “talked tough” to Putin. Hence what obviously was a get to know each other meet could be portrayed as a dressing down by cutie pie, the new darling of the left.

    This is why I like radio reportage. What came over the air yesterday, uncensored, was quite different than the “spin” put on it today.

    • And it is equally interesting to see how they like this guy…even though he is “right” of the media…..THAT….is funny.

      • I think that, like that time with DeGaulle, the French are about to take off on their own again. The Merkel-German domination of Europe has finally started to rankle them. Bout time too. Brits (as usual) figured it out first.

        Got into a big pissing match with our friend Charlie the other day because I DON’T LIKE GERMANY. He thinks I am being unreasonable and bigoted! As a “fair to middling” historian, they suffer from a very tragic character flaw, dominationitus. You have to admire the body count they racked up in the 20th century. Not to mention that they created the Russian Revolution and what that led to.

        • Where is Charlie

          • Charlie is on Facebook. He thinks we are all crazy here.Hates Hillary and the DNC wants a third party. Is in love with Tracy Gilbard, Calls Trump the orange blowhard and calls me a NAZI because i hate the Krauts. He is into forgive and forget for them, except for slavery in the US and of course the wiping out of the 30-40-50-75 million native Americans. We are just as guilty as the folks who done did it.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      Lest we forget it was the French under Sarcosi (sp) that pressured for the intervention and removal of Gaddaffi in Libya. Obama and HRC were to “lead from behind”

  70. Universal income……new term…….Oh My……

    • EverStem13 says:

      Your progeny is going to be completely enslaved forever.

      Too bad there is not one ‘good Samaritan’ of 8 billion people.

  71. China does not have to do anything about cliimate change until 2030. They will continue as is.

  72. MS 13,,,,,,Brentwood County……38% of the murders committed……with machetes and baseball bats…..

    Time to have machete and bat control……where is the left?

  73. Chuckie “Boy” Schumer….very upset that the WH wants to usepolygraph to find leaks. Schumer, in his own words…….quote ” What would a polygraph prove “. Really…and I did not think that anyone, ANYONE, could be as stupid as Nancy Pelosi…..I really did not think so.

    This is what I get for thinking, I guess.

    • Trump has Chuck the Clown’s number. Those leaks overseas made Trump look bad in public. Now he’s back and I bet the hammer is bout to fall. Pass the popcorn.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      If Schumer ever took a polygraph, they never could get a baseline of what would be considered a truthful statement, the same goes for Pelosi

  74. Maybe something will finally be done about this affront to our rights.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/29/lawmaker-reintroduces-bill-to-eliminate-operation-choke-point/

  75. He He He — They haven’t softened, they’ve just realized their losing out on an opportunity.

    http://pagesix.com/2017/05/29/melania-trumps-revenge-on-designers-who-wont-dress-her/

    • Melania dressed so much better than this. One commenter called her Assquatch 🙂

  76. Very interesting issue today. Neil Gorsuch hasn’t even been a Supreme Court justice for a full month. Today, he refused to join the SCOTUS “cert pool”.The Cert Pool was established in 1973 under the Burger court in order to review the nearly 8,000 petitions received each term. In prctice, I am told, that the petitions are apportioned among the Court’s law clerks, who then circulate a memo to justices reommending a grant or denial. This, in his opinion, gives Law Clerks huge power to decide or unfairly influence a particular case. This is not how a SCOTUS is supposed to operate. Gorsuch says it is not ok to pass off judgements to law clerks.

  77. Texas Governor Abbott fulilling another promise…….turning issues run by the State to local control. All school issues are now the responsibility of the local school jurisdictions and that includes tax rates.

    All school lunch’s are now the responsiblity of the local jurisdictions which includes whom is qualified for free breakfast and lunch.

    CPS…..Child protective services are now the responsibility of the city and county of residence.

    Keep on marchin’

    • Just A Citizen says:

      I see it was fun and games in the Texas legislature the other day. LOL

      • Yep….did you get to hear the whole story? Did they report it? About meeting him in the parking lot?

        • Just A Citizen says:

          d13

          Doubt I heard the whole story, that is not the media’s job you know.

          However, I did see the Republican involved saying he was trying to “provoke a response”.

          What should have followed from the reporters was “Why?”.

          So why don’t you fill us in on the full story.

          Oh, forgot to mention how I just love the RED uniforms these people wear where ever they demonstrate.

          • First of all, you have illegals in the gallery, carrying signs that says, ” I am illegal and I am here to stay “……so, it was quite plausible to have security arrest them and turn them over to ICE.

            Now, depending on who you wish to believe…the Democrats said that Rinaldi attacked the lot of them and Renaldi, who is now under the protection of the Department of Public Safety, says otherwise. But, Renaldi was actually threatened by Democrats who said they would take this up in the parking lot….Renaldi said, ok , bring it on. I am armed and will put a bullet in your head.

            That was pretty much it. Of course, everyone is upset with Renaldi for saying he will shoot them and Renaldi says that he is licensed to carry and he will protect himself if necessary.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              d13

              I figured his comment about shooting someone was in response to a threat. And I saw the story on PBS and they did mention the signs about being “illegal and here to stay”.

              His confession of “provocation” was him telling the Dems he had called ICE. Per ICE, he did NOT call them. So he wanted to provoke some kind of response, but from whom?

              Was it the crowd or the Democrats on the floor? Or both?

              Now next part of this. The sergeant at arms and the police were asked to clear the gallery. I saw some video of them grabbing people and pulling them out. Were any of them arrested on immigration violations in addition to disturbing the peace. For that matter, were any CHARGES filed against the “red shirts” who were forced to leave?

              • In answer to your last question, I do not know…..but I am sure that the provocation was about ICE, whether or not, they were called. It did provoke a response.

  78. Interesting Wall Street Journal article……..Women CEO’s are earning more than their male counterparts. In addition to earning more……the results of the return to shareholders is 18% return for women CEO vs 15% for male CEOs. In other words, results matter.

  79. Think about this over lunch……………………. Legal gun owners haveover 300,000 guns and 14 trillion rounds of ammo…..Seriously people, if WE were a problem…..trust me, you would know it.

    • Mathius says:

      Think about this over lunch……………. Muslims account for 1.4-ish BILLION people. Seriously, people, if THEY were a problem… trust me, you would know it. 😛

      • oops……my post said 300,000…..sorry it is 30,000,000

      • Ahhhh…..Sir Mathius………one only has to look to Europe to realize that there is a serious problem.

      • You have nailed it! At 1.4 billion people, the decent, law abiding regular non whacko Muslims so outnumber the nut jobs that they could stomp them out in half an hour. But they don’t, why?

        It is THE BOOK my dear friend, the book.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Those who agree with Jihad and use of terrorism to further Islam…… about 140,000,000.

        And YES, they are a problem. For EVERYONE ELSE.

        • I really think most people are missing the boat on this. Occasionally there is a resurgence of fundamentalist Islam. last time it was the Mahadi, the Dervishes and Khartoum among other things. The Brits had to beat them into the ground till they gave up.

          What we have here today is a loss of religious faith in the West which has been replaced with secular hedonism. The true faith, Islam, sees this as an opportunity. What we need to do, if we are not all totally stupid, is grab the westerners who have been converted and joined Jihad and peel back their minds (in a nice way of course) to see what was lacking in their lives that led to conversion.

          Good show the other night on Brits, white, anglo-saxon Brits who have gone over to the other side. Interviews with families, neighbors, friends show them leading rudderless lives before finding “something”.

          If the atheists are right, if man invented God, he did it for a reason.

  80. Mathius says:

    The 7th District just quashed yet another attempt at discrimination against transgendered kids. I’m not sure why people think it’s so important to control where kids go weewee, but that’s not the topic for today.

    The topic is: The court ruled under the auspices of Amendment 14, Section 1. Of course.

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Really, that highlighted section is the entire relevant guideline. The rest of this Amendment, as you may know, apportions representatives, guarantees the national debt, voids insurrection-based debt, and bans traitors from holding office, etc. Not really relevant.

    So here’s the question: No State shall […] deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. How do you interpret this clause as it pertains to the matter at hand?

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Mathius

      EASY. What law exactly “protects” people using a bathroom?

      Oh, you see there was no law. UNTIL a small minority raised hell about somebody kicking them out or simply because, then they got some Govt. entity to pass a rule/law allowing boys/men to use a girls/women bathroom.

      And when people passed laws/rules in response, not allowing anyone to go anywhere they want based on their whim of the day, then WHO has not been protected equally?

      If there is a law saying that people must use the bathroom/shower of their sex as indicated on their birth certificate, how is anyone not protected EQUALLY?

      Are not all people allowed access to a public bathroom? Which room is irrelevant to the issue of “equal protection”. Because you see, you have already established that which room does not matter.

      • Mathius says:

        Are not all people allowed access to a public bathroom? Which room is irrelevant to the issue of “equal protection”. Because you see, you have already established that which room does not matter.

        So, to offer up a loaded question in return: Are you advocating for “separate but equal”?

        ::raised eyebrow::

    • Actually, here is the issue….”Whitaker argued that the school district’s bathroom policy violated his rights under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and under Title IX, which prohibits sex discrimination in federally funded schools. The judges agreed, finding that Whitaker was likely to win his case based on that argument.”

      Federally funded is a huuuuuge portion of this.

      • But the other side of the case is that this ruling only applies to the 7th circuit. Whether or not the SCOTUS will hear the case, remains to be seen. What I would do is drop it, offer no choices to anyone, have unisex bathrooms and end this. It is a bodily function that everyone must do regardless of the snowflakes that want to wear women’s clothing or want to be men. I have travelled many countries where roadside ditches are the norm and it did not matter who was using them. I have travelled many countries where unisex bathrooms were the norm. Who cares? This is not a conservative or liberal approach to policy…..it is a biological function.

        Now there comes an interesting question. If a FEDERALLY funded school offered only unisesx bathrooms….is THIS a form of discrimination….especially religious discrimination. Because, I have NOT seen a unisex bathroom in any Muslim community or country. I have been in Afghanistan, Kuwait, Dubai, Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia. So….what now happens in the US…when a US Muslim decides that it is against his religion and files a reigion based discrimination suit?

        Just asking….

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Better yet, the extension of Mathius’ logic.

          If having boys and girls use bathrooms designated to them by “sex” is WRONG, then having them play sports designated to them by “sex” is WRONG. Meaning TITLE IX is WRONG in and of itself.

          So no more boys and girls sports…………only SPORTS. If girls cannot make the football team then tough cookies. Same for hardball, basketball, lacrosse, etc. etc. Cant’ compete, go home.

          • Yep……agreed. It is like women in the military…..the Army said…..let ’em try. We do not fight it…Hand a female and M60 machine gun…..or a mortar tube….or be an ammo bearer….or walk point. They weed out quickly. We did not change the standards for physical fitness….they got weeded out quickly. The two women that went through Ranger school just to wear a different color tab and are not part of the 75th Rangers…that is all they wanted to do. They didnot physically qualify for the 75th….and only wear a different colored Ranger tab…just to prove a point. Let em do it….they will drop out…

            Make everything gender neutral….everyone tries out for the sport…..because here is what is going to happen. A 7ft basket ball male player cannot make the team for a scholarship……he decides to wake up feeling female…..should be able to go to female sports and make the team and take home the scholarship……

  81. Are you folks out there in the hinterlands up on this NYC Puerto Rican Day parade stuff?

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/25/news/companies/puerto-rican-day-parade-sponsors/

  82. “Do you wonder why the legacy media are such puzzled otherworldly twits? Why, for example, they had no idea what was happening in the recent election? Why they seem to know so very little about America or much of anything else.

    Ask journalists when they were last in a truck stop on an Interstate, last in Boone, North Carolina or Barstow, California or any of thousands of such towns across the country. Ask whether they were in the military, whether they have ever talked to a cop or an ambulance crewman or a fireman. Ask whether they have a Mexican friend, when they last ate in a restaurant where a majority of the customers were black. Whether they know an enlisted man, or anyone in the armed services. Whether they have hitchhiked overnight, baited a hook, hunted, or fired a rifle. Whether they have ever worked washing dishes, harvesting crops, driving a delivery truck. Whether they have a blue-collar friend. Know what the Texas Two-Step is, have been in a biker bar.

    Now do you see why Trump surprised them?

    Next, ask how many went to fancy schools like Oberlin, Swarthmore, Amherst, the Ivies, Bard. Ask how many even know someone who graduated from a land-grant school. Ask whether they know an engineer.
    Now look at how much they write about each other for each other. Look at the endless coverage of what Maddow said about what Hannity thought about O’Reilly’s harassment of soft-porn star Megyn and how much she might make at CNN. Ask how much time they spend comparing ratings. They are fascinated by themselves.

    Ask them how many have ever worried about paying the electric bill, had to choose between a new winter coat or paying the cable, or known anyone who did. They don’t know America, and they don’t much like it.

    Ask them whether they are rich. They will say no, and believe it. Yet when friends drop in, the question will be whether to eat Turkish or Thai on the Hill. For much of America, dinner in a Turkish restaurant on Cap Hill, where the waiter puts a white napkin in your lap and the bill for four with drinks and tip is $180, would be the adventure of a lifetime.

    In Washington, a two-bedroom apartment in a very old building across Connecticut Ave from the zoo, with the original steam radiators, goes for $2500 a month. An 835-square foot two-bedroom condo in Colonial Village, just across Key Bridge in Arlington, Virginia, starts at $2450. Fifteen years ago, such a closet sold for $300K..

    Now ask how many journalists voted for Trump. Close to zero. Virtually the entire press corps is of one mind and slants the news to the point of verticality. In the absence of Trump, they are almost as heavily Democratic. Most don’t know they are doing it. It’s just that they are so obviously…right. They are not reporters. They are advocates. It is more than having the same politics. They have no conception of such romantic notions as freedom of expression or the interplay of ideas. You will never see a policeman given five minutes, uncensored, to describe what really happens in the streets or a gun owner, not chosen to be a buffoon, allowed to explain his position. If you told them that the media are tightly controlled, they would think you a right-wing loon.

    Journalists are not stupid, running to well above average in intelligence. You could form a large chapter of Mensa by raiding newsrooms in Washington. However, with a fair few exceptions, they are not intellectuals, not contemplative, not studious. They are high-pressure fact-accountants, competitive, comfortable under tight deadlines, aggressive, combative, quick but shallow. This can be a serviceable substituent for stupid.

    In a curious process of self-delusion, they imagine a world that doesn’t exist and then try to live in it. For example, they don’t know what cops face in the ghetto because they have never been in the ghetto and don’t know any cops. They dismiss anyone who tells them that things are not as they think. Their confidence is invincible, for do not all their friends say the same things? Their ideological attachment to political correctness is–obviously–strong. This is particularly stark with respect to race. Week after week, year after year, we read on the internet of whites beaten, burned, punched, of stores looted by flash mobs and wrecked in brawls. The perpetrators are always “teens” or “troubled youths.” If you ask reporters why they never mention race, they say things like “race is irrelevant. A crime is a crime.” But let a white cop shoot a black attacker, and nothing matters except race–not truth, guilt or innocence.

    They see no hypocrisy in this. They believe that they are just expressing Right Values. Since they talk only to each other, nothing contradicts them. Coverage of most things is either bad or nonexistent because the media have neither the time, resources, nor inclination to cover much of anything. Most outlets are crippled by the nature of their medium, political correctness, narrow focus, and lack of curiosity.

    For example, television is the medium of the illiterate and barely literate. (People who can’t or don’t read all have televisions.) It lacks the staff to have specialized reporters, has to avoid offending anyone so as to keep the advertisers happy, has very little time to spend on a story which it has to keep at a sixth-grade level to avoid losing much of its audience. It has to be politically correct so as to impose appropriate values. It can’t upset big corporations because that’s who owns it.

    Newspapers can assume perhaps a tenth-grade and better readership, but they too must be PC, worry about the advertisers, and they too lack staff. Big papers will typically pay attention to State, DoD, Congress, the political parties, and themselves. Most of the government simply isn’t covered. When is the last time you saw a story about HUD, Commerce, the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Energy, or Education?

    That’s why the mainstream media are largely vapid and predictable. It is why the internet, not bound by political correctness or controlled by corporations, able to specialize, to serve intelligent readers, is now primary.”

    D13 muses: I could not have said it better.

  83. Thought ya’ll would get a kick out of this…..From USAA to all members.

    “I’m reaching out to you today, as I have in the past, to ensure you’re aware of an issue impacting USAA.

    We are a mission-driven, values-based organization that strongly advocates for and supports the military community. We passionately focus on both those currently serving and our veterans who have given so much for our country. Our track record in this area since our beginning in 1922 is well documented while our efforts of support and advocacy grow each year. This will not change.

    As some of you may know, we have recently come under scrutiny for pulling ads from “Hannity” on Fox News and other opinion-based programs, including: “The Rachel Maddow Show” and “Hardball with Chris Matthews” on MSNBC and “The Lead” with Jake Tapper on CNN. Our long-standing advertising policy has been not to advertise on opinion-based shows to avoid any suggestion of bias or support for one set of views over another.

    We heard from our members and recognize that when we identified our error and removed advertising from “Hannity,” we created confusion and concern. Some members mistakenly believed USAA was caving to pressure or abandoning a TV personality who is a strong supporter of the military. This is not the case. Our decision was based on our existing advertising policy and not the result of outside pressure or related to anything that Mr. Hannity said on his show. We recognize the value of these programs and believe in free speech.

    The lines between news and editorial are increasingly blurred. Given the recent events and feedback from our members, we are reviewing our policy to determine how to best apply it in today’s environment and in line with our mission. While we do that, we will reinstate all previously removed ads on programs representing a variety of perspectives. This will be done later this week.

    Irrespective of where we land on our advertising policy, know that we have and will continue to proudly serve our members, their families and our military community. We have consistently demonstrated this through our actions: the donations we make to military charities, our efforts in financial literacy for junior enlisted, the veterans and military spouses we employ and assist with employment elsewhere, our willingness to provide loans at no interest when those serving are not paid, and the way we care for our members in times of need.

    As always, I thank you for your service to our country and your commitment to USAA.

    Respectfully, ”

    John Bird VADM USN (Ret)

    USAA heard very loudly from its members…….

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