“Americans are from Mars and Europeans are from Venus……live with it”

Let’s face it…Bill Murray could not have said it better in the movie Stripes. He says, “We are Americans. We are the wretched refuse. Our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world.” I wonder just how true is that statement. Innovators, workers, independent thinkers, freedom of expression, and distrust of governments led to the great exile to the Americas. What happened is in history….we are the power. We have proven it. Nothing else needs to be said…..except now, we seem to be catching the Progressive Disease from Europe.

 

Europe is failing. The Great Experiment is folly and is failing miserably. ( Yes, I ended a sentence with an adverb, get over it ). On the economic front, the E.U.’s dismal economic performance over the last six years was summed up in a December headline in Business Insider: “Europe Stinks.” The 2008 the so-called recession exposed the incoherence of the E.U.’s economic structure, particularly its single currency, which is held hostage by the diverse economic policies of sovereign nations. The data tell the tale. The E.U.’s GDP grew 1 percent in 2013, anemic compared to the U.S.’s 2.2 percent. In December 2014, unemployment in the E.U. averaged 11.4 percent, while in the U.S. it was 5.6 percent. We are troubled by our labor force participation rate of 62.7 percent, a 36-year low. But in the E.U., it was 57.5 percent in 2013. Our recovery from the recession may be slow by our historical standards, but it is blazing compared to the E.U.’s.

The Hoover Institution from Stanford University summed it up quite nicely, “The E.U.’s economic woes have many causes, but intrusively regulated economies and outsized government spending on generous social welfare transfers are two of the most important. Despite the rebuke of such policies delivered by the recession, government spending as a percentage of GDP has actually increased in the E.U., from 45.5 percent in 2007 to 49 percent in 2013, even as many Europeans decry the harsh “austerity” measures called for by countries like Germany. Greece, the E.U member increasingly in danger of being forced to exit the monetary union and thus risk its unraveling, has nonetheless raised its government spending from 46.8 percent in 2007 to 59 percent in 2013.” This is unsustainable and cannot continue but there is nothing to stop it.

In addition, Socially, the E.U. is troubled by two trends: demographic decline and the presence of concentrated populations of unassimilated and disaffected Muslim immigrants. Europe is an aging people; by 2030, one in four Europeans will be 65 years or older, reflecting the Europeans’ failure to reproduce. Not since the 1970s have European women averaged 2.1 children, the number necessary to replace a population. The rate in 2014 was 1.6. In countries with low retirement ages and generous benefits, an aging population means more and more money taken from the productive young and investment in the economy, further reducing competiveness, innovation, and growth. You must add to this, that the dependence upon the government to provide is a subterfuge. The government cannot provide anything. The Prime Minister of France summed it up nicely, “Our social programs cannot continue. We can tax every one 110% and we cannot sustain the current social programs we have.”  He went on to say, “ The very fact that the Muslim community refuses to assimilate but live off our welfare is a direct contribution to the failing of, not only our system in France, but that of the EU.”

America is fast becoming like Europe and it is not good. We need to maintain our independence and tell the rest of the world to jump on our ship…..yours is not good.

 

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  1. gmanfortruth says:

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    • gmanfortruth says:

      Poland seems to have a clue about bringing in Refugees…..accept NONE. The results are well documented in Poland.

  2. gmanfortruth says:

    One doesn’t have to wonder why the current form of Liberal Progressive ideology, with all of it’s failures and problems, continues to fester like a bad boil on the ass of humanity. In Europe, the crackdown on free speech along with a willing enabler we refer to as the Liberal media has left most Liberal’s devoid of the needed information to make an educated decision……and the unwillingness to believe what the non-Liberal media is reporting.

    There is also the political desire of power, which leads politicians to make bad decisions and promises of a utopia to maintain their political position and aim for more power. Greece and Cyprus have already learned the hard lessons of a failed political system (socialism). Venezuela, while not European, is on the verge of a Civil War because of the failure of their Socialist Dictatorship that has plundered the wealth of a once very rich nation.

    The future of Europe, from my viewpoint, is very troubling. More government crackdowns on citizen free speech to try and hide their failing policies along with Muslim violence and sexual aggression will lead to bigger problems such as Civil wars within the many countries, or as history has shown, the beginning of the next world war.

    • I have been viewing it from an investment standpoint….I am a watcher of currencies and I do not like what I am seeing. One of the things that the Central Banks have been using in Europe is a combining of balance sheets….combining the assets of countries but not taking the liabilities. This is a bigger ponzi than Social Security.

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        Sir….with your knowledge in economics etc….have you come across any hard data on how the EU and the Euro has harmed the lessor countries in the EU? I can see how small business would be harmed enormously which was the bedrock of many of the countries. When I lived in Italy the government placed huge tariffs on imports from Asia to protect native industries. Especially products that you really did not need. They were a want instead of a need. Germany also followed suit. Money was channeled towards living and remaining DEBT free. Each country was able to manage their own currencies. The Lira varied between 840-1200 to the dollars. Regardless of where it was I lived well and resided and purchased everything on the economy instead of at the PX or Commissary. People went to great lengths to screw the government. The regulations enacted by a foreign government (Rome) created an even bigger underground economy and apparent lawlessness. It was just plain survival. There was a law that was in place even until 2005, my last visit, that stated property tax was not charged until the house was completed. Almost every house had some sort of incomplete status. They would take their chances against the government because they would NOT kill you. However, the Mafia would. If you had a business that attracted attention, they sure as hell came a knocking. The “tax” charged would not kill the golden egg and they actually provided the services offered like “protection” The government promised but never delivered even after the fact, yet what taxes they did receive went into a black hole called Rome.
        Today, with the EU policy on allowing massive waves of migrants into an already struggling economy, the people are pissed. the government refuses to do anything and the EU prosecutes. I’ve heard the Mafia, as in the past has stepped in and providing the service of protection of the people in Sicily against the invasion absolutely destroying an already poor area.
        I see the people moving into a even more underground economy to get away from the EU oppression on their freedoms. And it will be inevidible the people will intime take their personal safety into their own hands with the absence of government security. Sicily was well armed when I was there, even though there were strict gun laws about procession of them by the people.
        When the EU demands companies in “new entrants” that have been in business forever, to shut down because they are in competion with companies in France or Germany something is terribly wrong.

  3. gmanfortruth says:

    Supreme Court announces it will consider case of Colorado baker who refused to bake cake for same-sex wedding, taking on fight over religion and gay rights.

    This has been a interesting debate here a few times.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      gman

      I predict the Court will rule that States have the right to pass laws forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation. And at least four of them will wax on about “human dignity” being protected by the Constitution.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        You may very well be correct. This would make a good discussion down the road.

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        JAC…..didn’t that happen years ago with SCOTUS? They ruled that such laws were State issues. CA passed laws and it may even have been a Constitutional amendment and the court cases were renewed. This time as they were heard by the Supreme Court they reversed themselves and overturned the applecart they themselves had set along its path. So it seems that they are on the road to reverse themselves again. Bear in mind the cases were all in the Robert’s court, with either Robert’s or Kennedy providing the swing vote, It seems to me they are likely to rule politically as opposed to rule on the basis of law.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Dale

          Exactly. It has been that way for some time now. We only see it now because more people are paying attention.

  4. Just A Citizen says:

    On a related note, SCOTUS is going to review the Wisconsin gerrymandering case. The lower courts ruled against the current boundaries.

    Please TAKE NOTE OF THE COMMENT about this case:

    “”Although a majority of the court has suggested that states can violate the Constitution if they draw legislative districts primarily to benefit one political party, the justices have never been able to identify the specific point at which states cross the constitutional line. In this case, a lower court held that Wisconsin had indeed crossed that line,” he told CNN.
    He continued: “If the justices agree, it would be the first time the court has articulated a constitutional rule in this context, which could — and likely would — have enormous ramifications nationwide.””

    Got that? The Court has issued prior ruling saying it is OK sometimes and not OK other times but never defined the line.

    IN SHORT, if a Court cannot establish a line then its ruling is nothing but magic in the first place. The Constitution gave the States the authority to determine the means of its own elections, including those for its representatives to Congress. Furthermore, there is no Amendment requiring Political Parties be substantially or equitably represented. The Civil Rights Act piggy backed off the Amendments guaranteeing Blacks equal standing. Party affiliation was not included in that amendment

    This is just one more example of “Tyranny of the Court.”.

    • This could be very serious…..But……if you remember, courts ruled against Texas gerrymandering. Texas took the stance that it is a State issue and redrew the lines anyway. No elections have been denied.

  5. Just A Citizen says:

    I am shocked I tell you. Absolutely shocked. Not as much at the ruling but at the size of the majority. And once again see who is voting no. Wonder why Kagen didn’t join the dissent.

    From RedState

    The Supreme Court issued three opinions this morning, one of which was the much-anticipated Trinity Lutheran case, which involved the question of whether Missouri’s exclusion of a church preschool from its program which provides grants to non-profits for playground resurfacing violated the Free Exercise Clause.

    In a 7-2 ruling, (Justices Sotomayor and Ginsburg dissented), the Court ruled in favor of Trinity Lutheran, holding that the Department of Natural Resource’s policy violated the rights of Trinity Lutheran under the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment by denying the Church an otherwise available public benefit on account of its religious status.

  6. Just A Citizen says:

    And for more shocking SCOTUS news: The court is going to hear arguments on the Travel Ban, ……………… in OCTOBER!! Clever of them though. They restarted the clock on Mr. Trump’s policy.

    “The court also reinstated the portion of the ban that affects people from five mid-eastern countries — Iran, Somalia, Libya, Yemen, and Syria — which was a part of the government’s request.”

    Now for the question. I thought there were 7 countries included in the revised list. Were there 7 and if so, who is missing?

  7. Just A Citizen says:

    Missouri, what the hell were you thinking??? I understand the sentiment of protecting religious liberty but maybe interfering in employee/employer relationships is just a dead end not worth pursuing.

    One interesting point in this, I did not know we had a Federal Law prohibiting discrimination against women because they had an abortion. That in itself is disturbing, the law that is.

    http://www.nationalmemo.com/missouri-women-using-birth-control-denied-employment/

    • I’m hoping there’s more to this because this is crazy!!!! I hate abortion as you all know but this is none of their Business!

  8. gmanfortruth says:
  9. gmanfortruth says:

    Representative Adam Schiff (D–Glendale CA), Ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee has found proof of collusion between candidate Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. According to “sources” this is the actual transcript from Trump wiretaps in 2016:

    DT: Hello, Vladimir, my pal.
    VP: Hello, my good friend Donald. What is up?
    DT: Did you get my message asking you to find Hillary Clinton’s missing 33,000 emails?
    VP: Of course, Donald. Whole world got your message.
    DT: Did you look for the emails?
    VP: No. We had them already.
    DT: You had already hacked into her server?
    VP: No, no. We bought her emails from China. Ha, ha.
    DT: What is in them?
    VP: Everything…but no yoga, no Chelsea wedding, no Momma’s funeral. Just usual classified
    secrets. Nuclear programs. Troop deployment. CIA operatives. Just pages of secrets..
    So how can I help you, my comrade?
    DT: Well, Vladimir, it looks like Hillary is going to win.
    VP: Yes. By blowout.
    DT: That’s the thing. I want to win, and I need your help.
    VP: How?
    DT: Call her. Do you still have that cute red reset button? She’ll listen to you.
    VP: What should I tell her?
    DT: Tell her to get some rest. That she doesn’t need to campaign in Wisconsin, Michigan,
    Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina or Florida.
    VP: That is all?
    DT: Oh, no. I need election hacking. You know, voting machines, paper ballots and all that.
    In those six states.
    VP: I will take care of it. It will be fun. You need California? We still have KGB connections
    in California.
    DT: No thank you. That should do it. I’ll win big. Huge.
    VP: Should I poison her?
    DT: No, no, no. Not necessary. It looks like she might drop dead at any time anyway. Don’t
    help.
    VP: So that is it?
    DT: Absolutely. If you’re in Washington next year, stop in and see me. I’ll be at 1600
    Pennsylvania Avenue.
    VP: OK. Dasvidanya, Donald.
    DT: Goodbye, Vladimir. Bring your golf clubs. We’ll fly to Mar-a-Lago. You’ll like Air Force
    One.

    This is explosive. Articles of Impeachment are already being drafted by the intellectual wing of Democratic leadership in the House of Representatives, led by Adam Schiff and Maxine Waters. Slam dunk.

  10. gmanfortruth says:
  11. So, the libs want to bury the fact Obama did nothing about “Russian Hacking” I would too. This more or less proves that there was no Russian hacking because Obama would never have missed the chance to use it against a Republican, any Republican.

  12. gmanfortruth says:

    It goes without saying that if the races were reversed in this situation, it would be 24/7 coverage on the major networks.

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/restaurant-owner-and-teen-daughter-cold-cocked-over-cold-fried-chicken

  13. Fun Fact………………If you cut the military spending by 100% and taxed all 1 million + earnings at 100% for 10 years, you still don’t pay for Bernie Sanders’ promises.

  14. So, let me get this straight…….it is said that our government has killed more people than anything else in history…….and we should give them all our guns?

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      Democide is the murder of any person or people by their government, including genocide, politicide and mass murder. Democide is not necessarily the elimination of entire cultural groups but rather groups within the country that the government feels need to be eradicated for political reasons and due to claimed future threats.

      https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

      I believe Rummel put a footnote about increasing the # killed in China due to the “great leap forward” as a government action where before it was excluded. Therefore putting them ahead of the USSR.

      On a flip side the US is continually barraged with the eradication of indigenous peoples. Most were killed by disease and not deliberate action by the government. Our numbers pale by comparison to the actions and deaths below our border since contact with Europe. Again disease was the greatest cause of death of indigenous peoples.

      The native Americans most certainly have gotten revenge with the introduction of tobacco. Today WHO and the CDC claim around 6M deaths are caused by direct smoking or second hand smoke. By the end of the century they estimate deaths caused by smoking will have totaled 1B.

      • It is incredibly hard to wrap your head around numbers like those. I’ve been aware almost all my life yet still cannot do it. When I teach the Citizenship badges to the scouts and bring up the various holocausts throughout “recent” history, I try and put it into terms like,

        “Imagine the entire population of New York City, Long Island, Westchester County and Bergen County New Jersey, disappearing overnight.”

        Nonetheless, Stalin probably got it right with “One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. ”

        The Poppy Project at the Tower of London 2014, 820,000 ceramic red poppies representing the 820,000 Empire Deaths in the Great War.

        https://news.artnet.com/exhibitions/today-marks-the-end-of-londons-striking-wwi-poppy-installation-163468

  15. Was just watching a breakdown of the 9-0 SCOTUS ruling on Trump’s travel policy. Pretty cool.

  16. Sign posted in Cabella’s Outdoor in Fort Worth, Texas………ATTENTION IDIOTS. There are only three reasons to unholster your loaded firearm. (1) You are robbing us, (2) You are shooting at the person robbing us, OR (3) you are a complete idiot !!!

    PLEASE DO NOT UNHOLSTER A LOADED WEAPON IN OUR STORE….If you do, the following will apply to each of the above….(1) you will be shot, (2) you will be thanked, and (3) you will be treated like an idiot and thrown out.

    IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY THIS MESSAGE , YOU CAN ASSUME THAT YOU FALL INTO THE THIRD CATEGORY.

  17. Hmmmmm….checking portfolio…..up 18% since 11/1/16. Wonder what that means? (sarc intended)

  18. Fake News. Grrrrr, make it stop

  19. California after Monsanto Chemical…..saying that Round Up, a very successful weed killer, is cancer causing and will need to post a label in California or pull it from the sheves.

    D13…..musing….thinking………..Let California pull it from the shelves and see what happens….in the meantime, please excuse me as I go and treat weeds with Round Up…Organic weed killers simply do not work.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      d13

      Disagree. Of course that depends on what you call “organic”. The parasite released to attack knapweed has been a great success. The nasty weed had taken over vast tracts of land in western Montana and parts of Idaho. It is now hard to see the weed in any abundance.

      A similar biological control is in the works for “cheat grass”. If it works I suggest you buy shares in the company. It would help save the Sage Grouse, for those who care.

      • Yes sir….it is a matter of semantics. Is the introduction of lady bugs an “organic” form of getting rid of aphids…..on our ranch, we introduce all kinds of organisms to combat organisms…..this is true but is it organic? If you define natural predators as organic, then I guess you could say that if we introduced cougars onto our ranch to kill the coyotes, instead of trapping, shooting and poisoning…that is organic. But then you create another problem….what predator do you introduce to kill the cougar…..I get your drift and prefer to be as organic as I can….but for the common weeds in flower beds, or poison ivy, poison sumac, or poison oak there is nothing out there unless you burn it out….and the oil from each will be in the smoke.

        We have yet to find, either through the A&M agricultural behemoth, the University of Oregon Agricultural Center, or the Oklahoma Agricultural Center and type of natural substance that kills….Persimmons ( grows like bamboo ), bamboo ( grows like wild persimmons ) ,johnson grass, chic weed, bull nettle, and cactus. It takes spray and a very strong one at that.

        I can see massive organic attacks for large tracts of land like in natural forests but what about the homeowner with a garden? Flower beds? rock driveways? No sir……I like round up. If you are careful with it and do not spray when it is very windy, it is very effective and quick…usually less than 24 hours. Monsanto is going to fight this but also said….if a state does not want it…..ok. Will not sell it there.

        But the almighty dollar will take over, and to appease California, they will probably label it.

        • Dale A. Albrecht says:

          Who is the largest “organic” wine producer in the world? That is that they try to not use pesticides and use natural repellants, such as plants etc, to combat things that have a negative impact on what you are trying to grow, I do know the answer so it is sort of a trick question because most will never quess.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          d13thecolonel

          Don’t take me wrong. I only wanted to point out that SOME “organic” methods have proven effective. But it has taken years of research and millions of dollars to develop ONE insect that will kill knapweed, and it kills ONLY knapweed.

          The insect also controls knapweed on small tracts as part of the bargain. Of course if you wanted knapweed you would have a problem. Nobody knows how to keep the insect from crossing property lines.

          I have a healthy supply of Roundup or other brand names of glysophate as well as 2,4 D. Roundup for total kill, 2,4 D for broadleaf plants in the lawn, flower beds and pasture.

          I tried a trick a few years back to kill grass in a flower bed. I put on rubber gloves and dipped my hands in a solution of Roundup. Then wiped my hand on the blades of grass sticking above the flowers. Worked great. Only a couple of flowers got killed. Was telling a friend about this idea last week and he told me he saw an advertisement for a Roundup rollon stick, like deodorant. Damn, another great idea turned money maker for somebody else. It never occurs to me that people will pay extra for a “roll on stick” instead of a dollar or two for rubber gloves. I keep forgetting Mathius’ first rule………… people are stupid.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      A hoe and sweat work wonders on weeds in the garden, plus improves physical well being. Oh I forgot by tilling the soil and causing the weed to die CO2 is released…that’s bad

      • Hoe and sweat? Seriously? No beer? No iced tea? Nothing? Are you daft, man?

        • Dale A. Albrecht says:

          Who said anything about no beer. That is the reward after gardening, plus perfecting the art of rocking on the porch. Heck, I even use an old fashion push mower, the only noise is the ticking of the blade. No weedwackers, no power blowers. brooms, rakes for cleanup and hand clippers for edging.

          • I knew something was wrong with you……tttteeeeerrrrribly wrong with you. You do not have it correct……allow me to correct your methodology. Ok…are you ready?

            You sit on the porch and rock. Your beer in one hand…..the perfect rock, of course, is to never stop rocking to take a swig of beer. You master the art of physics and motion and nary a drop is lost. You must also master the art of switching hands so that both arms get the proper exercise.

            Next, you watch YOU SON, assuming you have one….. mow, edge, and sweep up. Now, do you have it correct?

            • Oh….if no son……your daughter ……your grand children ( if old enough and 5 years old is old enough ) teaching them the proper art of hard work and what it was like in the “olden” days. Adjusting for inflation, you must regale them with stories of 15 cent hamburgers and 20 cent per gallon ethyl gasoline. ( I heard about 5 cent hamburgers and 6 cent gasoline ). YOu must impress upon them that it is hard work that makes you succeed not living off the government like a bunch of leeches ( then you will probably have to explain what a leech is since in school, now days, no one learns anything ). You will need to get them to understand that for fun we used to make chains and necklaces out of pop tops…..drag race down the street…..and watch black and white TV’s in cases so large it was a piece of furniture and run on tubes….color was only five colors and in commercials because the movies were black and white. You have to get them to understand that we used to watch cartoons where the only violence was the Wiley E Coyote trying to stop the road runner or bugs bunny and Elmer Fudd trying out smart the other. Or Pepe Le Pew bouncing around the neighborhood….that the only smoking we did was grapevine behind the wood shed and if we got caught we saw the inside of the wood shed.

              You know….things like that………………………………..oh yes, and you could sell lemonade outside your home next to the curb without a permit for 10 cents an 8 oz glass.

              • gmanfortruth says:

                Colonel, Your excluding our Liberal friends who may have an illegal immigrant gardener to watch. Always smiling knowing what a great financial deal their getting 😀

            • Dale A. Albrecht says:

              Sir….I divorced him with his mother 23 years ago.

              I like yard work. I started doing it as soon as I could push the mower, Trouble was I couldn’t start it. Innovation was required. A socket and a power did the trick. Dad was always busy with work and did long hours plus several hours commute in LA. So all chores would get done beforehand and when he was off he was off. At 7 years old would be cleaning stables and corrals, and watering, feeding, exercising and at times being the 1st on their backs for 22 horses. Plus pool cleaning. Just because I’m retired these past 7 years doesn’t mean I do not like working on my old passions.

              As I got older when most kids were bussing tables, flipping burgers and bagging groceries being a wage slave for nothing, I had my own landscaping business. Made on my own over $1K/month. Plus more with buying, picking and selling fruit. Need a quick $25-$50 for a date I made a few phone calls and an hour later the fruit would be delivered. I was out of doors all the time.

              • Well, sorry about your divorce…..but I understand.

              • Dale A. Albrecht says:

                I’m not……should have occured years before that, but under VT law one can not divorce a spouse until both are on their feet again after an accident like event. They sort of feel that’s abandoning someone. It took years for us to recover from a severe car accident caused by a Canadian driver who should never have been driving.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Dear California

      You claim that the Federal Govt. has authority over health insurance because it involves “interstate commerce”. You hold the same for many issues.

      So in case you don’t realize it, when your employees travel beyond the State line to spend money in other places that is also part of “interstate commerce” and ONLY the Federal Govt. has the power to regulate such commerce. And per prior SCOTUS rulings, NO STATE may erect barriers to intrastate commerce that are designed to affect interstate commerce. Such as requiring all timber grown within the state be sold only to companies within the state. No can do……….

  20. I’m curious about everyone ‘s opinion on the healthcare bill situation. Should they pass it or not? I’m a yes, they should try to make changes but in the end they should vote yes.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      V.H.

      I vote NO in its current state as well as NO on the House version. What would be the point of approving this mess at this time???

      Without better information it appears to just make things worse, or at least not better, and approving it puts the whole thing around the Republican’s neck. Along with Mr. Trump.

      Which by the way is worth noting that the Democrats are calling the House bill “Trumpcare” and now the Senate bill “Trumpcare”. They are not the same bill and have significant differences. So how can they BOTH be Trumpcare?????

      • I vote NO. Leave it alone and let Obamacare impload. The current house bill and the current Senate bill is horse shit.

        • Dale A. Albrecht says:

          I vote NO also. Let Obamacare be an albatrose upon the Democrats and not allow that tar baby get stuck to them.

          If just a couple clauses gets revised 1) make it only that you do not have to buy this insurance 2) have more choices that are very suited for a single person who does not have vices that will cause health problems like addictions. Example one is required to have addiction/rehab coverage, maternity care etc. When I worked prior to Obamacare these were choices based on individual or family needs. And only your personal policy was affected, not one size fits all and the only choice is the size of your deductible and co payment,.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I’m as against this stuff now as Obamacare. The Fed’s have no business interfering in the health insurance industry. I want to punch these idiots on TV who whine because the new stuff don’t require the industry to cover this that and the other…all of which I had BEFORE Obamacare.

      A true Conservative should want absolute repeal, just like Republicans shouted at the beginning (Lying bastards). That will never happen now and healthcare will continue to rise in costs.

      • There is NO WAY it can be taken away. Might as well have been law for the last 80 years like SS. So, now what can you do? Does not matter what I want or what you want. The prior system has been killed by O care so it cannot come back.

        Since O care was designed to fail and lead to single payer, anything that gets rid of it is better. Let us NOT fall into the trap the dems fell into. Let us NOT assume we will be the governing party for the next 25 years. All it will take is a big economic downturn or electing another Bush, Bush type or “moderate” republican and the dems will return.

        So pass the sucker, get on with the rest of the agenda. If we can take the economy into the stratosphere, a lot of these other issues will resolve themselves.

        • gmanfortruth says:

          I know there is no way it’s going away……like I have said…..two sides my ass.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          And you wonder how the Republic was lost.

          Just imagine Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc. sitting around saying “Oh well, the taxes have been in place to long, there is nothing we can do about this tyranny. After all, most of us don’t care.”

    • No. Government has no business in healthcare/insurance.

    • Okay, First the argument that the republicans can do nothing, so they won’t be blamed, is in my opinion wrong. You don’t get rewarded for doing nothing, especially after years of promising to do something. So doing nothing is unacceptable.

      My understanding is that once we do a budget, reconciliation is off the table. So then nothing is even possible without the democrats agreeing. I suspect that bill would be a lot less to people’s liking. Now I know that the republicans may never get to the second step in this process but if we don’t do something now to at least go in that direction, I don’t think we’ll get another chance. Single payer here we come.

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        Just as Obama indicated right from the beginning.

      • VH…….I am still an advocate of letting Obamacare impload, go on national tv and say, here is why it imploaded, here is what I tried to do to fix it, here is where I was blocked from fixing it and name who it was, then say…throw them out of office and get some folks in there who understand.

        One thing the Dems are doing very well……they are using Trumps ego against him.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          d13thecolonel

          This health care bill is not Trump’s. I give him credit for trying to help out the R’s by lobbying for its passage.

          But let us not forget that Mr. Trump campaigned on the idea that health insurance would be cheaper and EVERYBODY would be covered. There is only one way to make the second part happen and that is adding people to the Govt. insurance programs, like Medicare or Medicaid. Which in turn demands, that as Republicans, they need to make sure the new enrollment is covered in the budget.

          I do not see the Democrats playing Mr. Trump’s ego against him in this issue. But feel free to share how you think they are doing that.

        • I know you do and we may find out if you’re right.

          I just believe you’re analysis goes against human nature. People who are struggling to make those obnoxious payments or have lost their coverage are likely to consider all that just bad excuses. You had a majority and reconciliation an couldn’t do anything, the least you could have done was make it little better. But you guys are so poor at governing you decided to just say screw the Country and the people we can just blame the democrats. And the democrats will be saying how great Obama care was, it just needed tweeking which the republicans refused to do. While there parading every hard luck heath care case they could find across the air waves.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            V.H.

            No doubt the D’s will play that game. They will play it over and over again, no matter what happens. UNTIL they get Single Payer. Then they will play it again until they get Single Provider.

            So here is the key and most critical question. WHY cave to this emotional blackmail? It it will not appease them, including the people themselves, then why do it?

            The only chance we had at ending this Govt. insurance fiasco was for the R’s to have a Free Market legislative plan in their pocket and then pass it, no matter what it takes.

            The conversations here at SUFA reflect the very nature of the problem when it comes to shrinking Govt. involvement in our daily lives. Once the nose is in the tent, the inhabitants WANT the Camel to come all the way in. They never consider chasing the Camel out of the tent. Thus “Public Choice Theory” destroys the worlds first and only experiment with a self governing representative republic that was based on the sovereignty of the individual.

            Now, I will grant you one compromise position. If the R’s would pass something that actually moves us away from Govt. provided insurance, eliminates mandates, tax penalties and the other earmarked taxes all under the reconciliation authority, I could go with that. But so far I see nothing indicating this is what they are doing. If this remains the case, then just say NO.

            One more note. The reason the R’s get painted into the corner is they don’t spend any time thinking about and then strategizing ways to, counter the expected Appeal to Emotion from the Dems. When you know what the enemy is and how they will act, why would you not prepare for the attack to weaken their position??

  21. Just A Citizen says:

    Thought of the day

    If the “Progressive” central power and planning types were half as smart as they think they are, they would force most of the people out of California and dedicate most of the State to growing food and fiber. Along with maintaining the commercial shipping ports.

    Move the people to where the water is located and stop spending billions moving water around just because you want to live where it is warm year round.

    Selfish bunch of prigs.

  22. gmanfortruth says:
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  24. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    Saw an interesting video today. I did not realize that Mohammed was forced to leave Mecca and become a migrant and landed in Medina. This was a Jewish city. The city residents gave refuge and aid to the immigrant, When his other followers were also given the boot in Mecca, they came to Medina where again they were given refuge. Within 5 years Mohammed had taken over and had beheaded the last holdouts of the original residents of Medina…..the path originally was that Islam was a religion and peaceful, then after reaching Medina he had to get political, then became militant and the rest is history. The same path is currently being used in the invasion of the west.

    Religion of peace as prescribed by Mohammed was when the you and the world submit there will be peace. Until then katy bar the doors……use of words is important and and they mean different things to us. Like it is forbidden to kill innocents. That we understand, except that is not what Mohammed meant. Innocents are those that have submitted and all others are guilty and therefore not innocent. Even those Muslims that believe that given time the world will see the light and convert are guilty of not wanting the conversion now, immediately and also fair game. Treaties also are used to buy time. Lying is absolutely condoned for the advancement of Islam. but to be fair most if not all of our political leaders follow that practice to usually promote their cause and personal wealth.

    I had no idea that 20% of our federal budget before the Barbary War was devoted to paying tribute to the pirates.

    • And Jefferson bent the hell out of the Constitution to do that!

      The Jews, who have been around longer than just about anybody have split over the years into Ultra-orthodox, orthodox, conservative, liberal and reform running the gamut from literalists to “holiday Jews” who vaguely remember their religion during Passover. There is very little attempt to convert outsiders.

      The Catholics, 2,000 years old and still going, have moderated themselves into the point where they even question their right to proselytize anymore let alone run a decent Crusade. Ditto for the mainstream Protestants. The Fundamentalists, like the Jews do not seem particularly interested in conversion by force. Then of course you have the eastern religions, Hinduism and Buddhism which again are not fanatical.

      Now, the Muslims, that’s a whole different kettle of fish. They have never, as a whole stepped back from the 7th Century. As I have said, time and time again, find me a devout Muslim who can condemn slavery. Awfully hard to do, the book is the book is the book. If we do not have the guts to take them on and we do not, the goal should be to spike the schism within the religion itself between Shia and Sunni.

  25. gmanfortruth says:
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  27. Just A Citizen says:

    V.H. and S.K.

    Thought you might be interested in this person’s comment on the health care effort in Congress. Clipped from Red State:

    AJ_Liberty • an hour ago

    The GOP execution, especially communicating the why’s and what’s, has not been good. But the basic plan is reasonable:
    1. Articulate clearly why Obamacare is failing and that inaction is not an option;
    2. Have Trump pave the way through Executive regulatory discretion
    3. Explain what is possible through reconciliation and what is not possible;
    4. Initiate changes, best as possible, through legislation like AHCA;
    5. Have Tom Price work further regulatory discretion to make changes more effective
    6. Propose general order legislation to complete repeal and replace
    6a. This will pass the House, showing the country what the GOP stands for
    6b. This will be blocked in the Senate showing who is obstructing the change
    7. Campaign in 2018 and 2020 to finish the repeal and replace

    We are obviously hung up on items 3 and 4…..and many want to jump to proposing a comprehensive bill that has no shot of passing the Senate….and then run on that. Either way there are problems in that it is unlikely that the GOP will gain +8 seats in the Senate any time soon…so is it better to do nothing…and hope voters do not blame you for not changing a failing system…or is it better to cut some taxes and regulations and institute some free market changes, like more HSA’s, and show progress toward the end goal? I tend to favor the latter…but there is no obviously right path…each has its own peril. The GOP rhetoric…..and Republican’s willingness to buy it…..oversold what was possible, That we keep holding onto the idea that this was going to be easy with ~52 Senate votes is our own problem.

    This was in response to an article which proposes that the Republicans are suffering from the same old lack of strategy because they allow the Dems to use the “cuts to medicaid to pay for tax cuts for the rich”. This meme was first used by Clinton in his budget battle with Gingrich. Which led Clinton to veto the spending bill which in turn shut down the Govt., which in turn the Dems and media blamed the Republicans for. The gist of the article was that Republicans should not have promised repeal or the free market solutions and not cut the taxes within the ACA because it looks bad from a PR standpoint.

  28. Just A Citizen says:

    Thought of the morning

    It occurred to me as I was reading up on the frustrations of Congress, especially the R’s, in getting anything done, that the Republican party has a greater diversity of people with differing views than the Democratic party.

    Only a party with very similar ideological thinking can congeal to overcome the barriers politics places in the way of major action. This is why the Dems were able to overcome the barriers, and their own minor diversity of opinions, to pass the ACA.

    The inability of the Republicans to do the same shows that, as I have said many times, there is no real central set of principles guiding the elected Republicans. They do not follow the Party Platform because many do not believe in it. Thus the radical action needed to implement their agenda is not possible. They are far to divided within the party.

    And to this I say thank God for the “Freedom Caucus”. For it is this handful of people who have held firm against the tendency of the herd to simply pass something the Democrats will accept, for the sake of passing something.

    You see, gridlock was designed into the system for a reason. The Founders understood how the passions could result in Govt. going astray or fouling up the lives of the people.

  29. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    This Mueller thing is so out of control. The conflict of interest is so blatant. Where is the special prosecutor to clean up the messes left by Holder, Lynch, HRC and Obama and not to leave the IRS untouched also. older with his lying and absoluet contempt of Congress. Lynch and her obstructions laid out even by Comey, HRC, Rice, bengahzi email abedeen and….Obama knowingly using HRC’s email with an alias. destruction of records under supoena

  30. On my, Van Jones on camara. 😂

    http://breaking.projectveritas.com/cnnpart2.html

  31. I was reminded today that something like 97% of scientists in 1973 said we had reached “peak oil” and that society was going to have to make major adjustments in living standards because of the scarcity of petroleum.

    97%, 97% 97% where have I heard that recently?

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      Only after eliminating papers/data that do not support their hypothesis and cherry picking phrases from the papers that do pass muster.

      • So much for “science” eh?

        • Ya know Dale, when I think back to my high school science classes in Biology, Chemistry and Physics where I passed but did not do spectacularly well, I am appalled at what passes for science today. I cannot tell you how the scientific method was hammered into our brains for all four years. Test, test, and test some more and the results had damned well better come out the same before you put a word on paper.

          It is funny that the very same people who constantly tell,us big Pharma is rigging results to get money buys the global warming “junk science” without ever applying the same standard. It is a sick world.

  32. Just A Citizen says:

    How about a lil’ ol’ fashioned good feelings for a change? Or, a politician with country boy charm.

  33. Just A Citizen says:

    This is from 2011, but you should remember the information and general conclusions.

    Because it will become relevant again shortly as a move occurs to simply adopt Medicare for everyone. Using budget austerity as the reason.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/06/30/the-myth-of-medicares-low-administrative-costs/#5d47c3e3140d

  34. Just A Citizen says:

    I wasn’t sure she was guilty, as opposed to being used like a tool. Now I know she is guilty. They all have this same “tell”.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/28/susan-rice-suggests-race-gender-bias-linked-to-unmasking-backlash.html

    • I think this one will crack based on her performance today. She has demonstrated the inability to keep a story straight, has no further use for Clinton or Obama and is being set up as the fall gal.

      Offer full immunity for full testimony, see what happens. In the interim make sure she does not have an “accident” or a brain aneurysm or a mugging or have a sudden urge to commit suicide as so many Clinton folks have had.

  35. Anybody hear the guy on Rush today who said that the CBO ought to “score” Obamacare today and see what the numbers are? Cannot imagine anyone jumping at the opportunity. Opens too many doors.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      Why would anyone even at the onset of the bill and its scoring/cost believe the CBO, except those wishing to foist it upon the people. The CBO said in plain english that the numbers they came up with were the costs ONLY from the selected parts they were given by the Dems….NOT the whole bill. At least the CBO was up front and honest on that point. However, ethically I believe they should refuse to assess the costs on any bill unless they see the whole thing. Granted that would be the cost at that time, before the regulations and administrators get their hands on it and start adding layer upon layer of requirements. I believe it would be impossible for them to assess the costs today trying to wade through the thousands of pages of regulations that link to other sections of different laws, and all the different costs in each and every community in the country. I do not believe even if they tried, they’d get any closer in the true costs than the side door into a airplane hanger.

      Take any bill. Like the F-35 as an example. Initial costs were X and it is now the most expensive arms appropriation project ever….and still climbing. One is suppose to learn from and use the previous program, F-22, as a building block. The F-35 seems to be nothing but a scaled down version of that plane and was supposed to be more affordable

      • The CBO has never been right….never.

        • That is a message that NEVER seems to get out.

          • Dale A. Albrecht says:

            Why would they ever be close? The deck is stacked every time. Congress and the administrations depend on the American people to be stupid as the advisor on Ocare baldly stated the other year. And the other reality is that the country is fairly evenly divided. 50% want the program and 50% do not. Just a couple %points either way and the program is in.

  36. gmanfortruth says:
    • Just A Citizen says:

      Let me take this opportunity to remind you and others that the people in the truck claimed that dozens if not hundreds of shots were fired and the truck was riddled with holes.

      So now we have 5 shots total at the truck and one of those missed. Maybe eye witness accounts from these people who were involved are not as accurate as many would like.

      By the way, I have talked to someone who was reportedly at Burns when this started. The bigger concern we should have is the report that the Bundy bunch tried to reach out to the FBI/ATF to meet with them to discuss the issues and get a peaceful resolution. The govt. agents in charge refused. This person feels the Govt. was just biding time to in order to make an armed confrontation and take out Finnicum. The story line, regarding Finnicum in particular, is a little weak but thought I would share it with you.

      What does match up with what I told you would happen after the Mesquite standoff is that the Feds were biding time so they could take the entire group down that was at Mesquite and those at Burns. Remember when I told you the Gov.t wasn’t going to let it go and they would eventually strike? Well the stupid Bundy boys gave them a great opportunity to do that and make the agents look like the good guys.

      Given the perspective of the “patriot” groups that were there and the federal agents, I doubt we will ever know the absolute truth about any of these events. At least not the details. Even if it is those details which led to a man being killed.

      • There were more than 5 projectiles shot at the truck. Some may have been rubber or gas canisters. From the viewpoint of a passenger, I doubt they would make the distinction between bullets and other projectiles.

      • Let us remember that the Waco Sheriff offered to bring in Koresh but the hut, hut, crew won out.

        • THere were several things that could have been done at Waco….that was Texas National Guard equipment that they used. We offered to teach them how to drive the tank retriever, M88…but they refused and just tried to poke holes in things. Stupid is as stupid does. I was standing about 1/4 mile away when it went up in flames….smoke grenades and tear gas cannisters start fires.

          • They had absolutely no concept on how to clear a building….including climbing on a roof in full view of a window with a machine gun in it……Wesimply stayed out of the way….it was an ATF operation that was so stupidly run……LiL JAC could have done better and he wasnt even here yet.

  37. gmanfortruth says:
  38. Hope this works. Found this article which is relevant to the Colonel’s post. It’s about European leaders with no children and how that affects their ideology.

    As Europe’s leaders have no children, they seem have no reason to worry about the future of their continent.

    “Europe today has little desire to reproduce itself, fight for itself or even take its own side in an argument”. — Douglas Murray, The Times.

    “‘Finding ourselves’ becomes more important than building a world.” — Joshua Mitchell.

      • Very nice piece, explains a lot. I never realized it was that bad. The “intellectuals” know better than us “breeders”. Guess they don’t read their Bibles (ha ha). was there not something there about being fruitful and multiplying?

        Somehow this is all wrapped up in the death of faith and the cynicism coming out of the 20th century. Funny, I got the entirely opposite message which involved being sure that the kiddies were trained right from an early age, taught to value morality over money and to love others as themselves. Guess I was out of step.

        I can remember the yammerheads from my generation telling me they would NOT bring a child into this awful world. No matter how hard I tried I could never convince them it was NOT an awful world unless you made it so yourself.

  39. VH….do me a favor, please and ask your friends about Obamacare and about what they think the Senate should do….The reason that I ask, is that here, I have asked about 15 people their thoughts. Most of them conservative. Approximately 80% feel the same as I…..do nothing and let it blow up. 20% are saying something is better than nothing.

    The two liberal friends that I talked to want something to be done so they can name it Trump care….they know, and agree, that Obamacare is crazy and they do not want to own it. They feel like if something is passed and that it does not gut Obamacare….it then becomes Trump care or as some say Obamacare 2.0. If they do not gut Obamacare, and they have not, it will still explode and the Repubs will own it. Just curious.

  40. Just A Citizen says:

    A TRUE inovation. I can see these scattered over the Colonel’s ranch. 🙂

    • Right up my alley. I could live in one. I’m glad I have waited to build my dream home because as time passes, I’m finding the simpler and cheaper, the better. Saves more cash for gas for road trips.

    • Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm……if you could tell me how to post a picture on here…..I will send you one of what I am building as we speak…….

  41. gmanfortruth says:

  42. gmanfortruth says:
    • She is being trashed as sexist, racist and every other ist and as being pro violence against the left. She made the spot in April prior to the baseball diamond shooting, hence was prophetic about the violence from the left.

  43. gmanfortruth says:

  44. gmanfortruth says:

    Mathius
    In reply to d13thecolonel.
    10/20/2016
    Yes.

    You’re missing that

    (A) she has (apparently) 17 intelligence agencies supporting her assertion whereas he is pulling this out of his ass

    (B) she’s currently crushing him and is using the Russian manipulation talking-point to hurt him. She is not using it as a reason to deny a loss because she’s not currently likely to lose. He IS likely to lose and has been claiming that the whole thing is rigged and now he refuses to agree to accept the result of what is an almost certain outcome. So he is setting himself up to claim the election was stolen from him and that she’s not legitimate. She is not. In fact, when asked the same question by Wallace last night, she unequivocally stated she would accept the results (but of course, that’s easy to do when you’re ahead by 7+ points).

    Thought I would go back and commend Mathius on his use of “apparently” rather than claiming fact on the 17 Intelligence Agency claim of Russian interference, where as we NOW know it was ONLY 4, not 17.

    Each new day comes more dishonesty from the Democrats and the Liberal media. At this point, Democrats may not win many elections in the near future.

    • gmanfortruth says:

      Oh, it seems the Liberal Left who couldn’t accept the election results, including Hillary who is incapable of being truthful.

  45. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    With all the corruption rife in government at all levels and all parties in all States I though of the scene in “Back to School” with Rodney Dangerfield. The intellectual professor of business economics wanted the students to create a company making widgets. What are the costs of setting up the company. Dangerfield went off on ALL the payoffs he had to do to further his business, from this commissioner, to that politician, to this and that Union. All never declared by those receiving those “donations” to get approval. The professor chided him about legitimate business……that is business. Maybe that is why Trump decided to run for office? Maybe he was totally sick of the graft he had to shell out everywhere he did business in. he was to old to make a difference starting at the bottom, and had to start at the top. But then it could just be his unbounded ego.

    Watched a daily update of Judicial Watch last night. They are wanting records from the Christie administration in NJ about the “request” for $350M dollars from a private health care insurance company. The goal is to set up opium treatment centers to help combat the epidemic of addiction, hitting the State and many other States.

  46. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    Glad the DOJ has stopped the extortion that Holder started by saying they would not prosecute if the bank would just kindly make a donation to this or that organization which I believe in most if not all cases supported Obama. MIllions/Billions of dollars flowed by extortion of the Feds to political groups. If they did no wrong why pay it? I believe deep down they did wrong and the monies should then go to the treasury and the victims of the wrongdoing, not a political entity.

    Where did all the cases of banking fraud go with the Swiss banks? I never heard of one being prosecuted, yet the banks were fined for criminally advising depositors on tax evasion. Could all those involved quietly made DONATIONS to avoid prosecution?

    My bet is most were heavy Obama supporters because if they were Republican’s it would have been a gift to Obama that the DOJ could not pass up to humiliate them. Yet all is quiet.

  47. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    I always like Frederick Forsyth books…..came across a sentence in one of his earlier books about the changing of the political old guard to the new generation….”Beforelong the world would be handed over to the new people. Much of the world had already been handed over to them. But would it also be handed over to pimps and tarts, spies and assassins?”

  48. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    Off to work on portions of an 1840 house before it gets to hot. Not only up 3 stories but in spaces that have NO air handling. Just like the old days before AC in the south. Sweating buckets.

  49. Trump has em all in a tizzy with his bleeding face Mika at Mar a Lago tweet. That’s what the buzz is. I’m thinking it was a set up as cover for the travel ban being reinstated effective today. I don’t give a damn what everyone else thinks about his tweets, they’re funny, well timed, and they deserve ridicule. This ain’t your father’s presidency. Rope a dope. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

    • All this reminds me of the schoolyard bully who gets punched in the nose by the nerd and then goes crying to the principle about the nerd who bunched him. They call Trump names daily but when the tables get turned, they cry like a bunch of mama’s boys. Then their gang backs them up and points the finger at the nerd. Their attitude is that we voters don’t know s–t.

  50. Just A Citizen says:

    There is not empirical evidence that the Affordable Care Act “saved lives”.

    This is but one of several stories now on the web discussing the FLAWED analysis that was used to make these claims. And thus the claims that killing the ACA will kill people. It is all a bunch of hooey and people need to start calling out the liars in politics and the media when they repeat this garbage.

    https://mises.org/blog/did-obamacare-really-save-lives

  51. You may not want to watch this whole thing- but go to about 3.30 and wait for. Whoopi to talk.

    • I watched about 2/3 rds of it. That was enough. I have never seen the View before and do not want to see it now. It is entertaining to the point of laughability.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Watched the whole thing. The guy who posted this makes some good points.

      However, I DO NOT see where Colter “Owned” anyone in that discussion. She in fact sounded stupid trying to defend Trump against some rather reasonable questions. Not her usual sharp self.

  52. Just watched a debate on TV about the minimum wage that several states have done….the restaurant workers are all upset because they are losing their tips…..Especially the more expensive restaurants where the checks are higher. Interviews with patrons are saying that since they are on minimum wage, there is no longer a need to tip. Several patrons said that the service has dropped off since then and they do not feel any type of obligation to tip.

    The union bosses are upset about it as are the workers and the unions are now wanting guaranteed tips.

    Wow………………………………………………….

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      Inevidable…Fixe Comprite….no matter how the service was, usually that went on here in the States if the party was large and also if you as the customer were shit’s the manager would assume you’d stiff the staff and the 15% was tacked on. …….however I never got bad service while traveling or living in Europe. The wait staff treat their jobs as professionals and are trained and act accordingly. Many times I bumped up the tip due to the outstanding service. The only routinely mediocre service was in Germany. If it was just my wife (at the time) the service was great and as expected. Unfortunately they in gereral HATED the American service personnel, who showed themselves quite literally as barbarians and many times we were accompanied by the kid and his wife.

      I say to the folks complaining now, if you maintained your service without fail at the level when you were increasing, your below minimum wage, by working hard for tips. Figure that 15% (average) just got added by your mandatory pay. If you assumed the people will pay 15% on top of that for less service, they are stupid and naive.

      They’ll lose even more when people start eating out less. In Amsterdam the Sushi bars were nothing but conveyer belts. The different dishes were color coded dictating the price. There were a couple sushi dudes in the center making dishes as fast as possible and placing them on the conveyer. You as the customer took off the belt what you wanted as it went by. Drinks orders were taken by a waitress. When you wanted to check out you high-fived and the manager came by, counted the dishes by color and handed you the tab. Pay as you went out the door. 5 people total running this huge restaurant and every seat was taken by a customer and people were waiting to be seated..

  53. gmanfortruth says:

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56961

    ‘Dumb White B*tch’: Leftist Twitter Mob Attacks Girl For Cleaning Trump’s Walk Of Fame Star

    The last Tweet says it all.

    • You know, G Man…..this is representative of the left, unfortunately. This is representative of the Dems, unfortunately….and like those of us whom are conservative, the true liberal philosophy will just sit silent and do nothing and then complain that they are vilified for the actions of a few. Unfortunately, these are not the actions of a few but, now, are representative of the left as a whole……and that is very sad.

      • gmanfortruth says:

        It is sad and continues to grow as an issue. The lies and the twisting of the truth are the worst I have ever seen.

        • These are the times when I think that Donald Trump is the smartest man in the world. No matter how off the wall the stuff he does is, it draws out a much worse response from his opponents. I think he has figured out a way to clear the clouds away from the average American’s eyes. I think we can all agree that the “change” in this country, certainly for the last 50 years, has been incremental, baby steps. It has been subtle enough for the average person to have missed how for example, a mere 15 or so years ago “Gay Marriage” was still a stand-up comedy joke to a hard reality. Ditto with crime, illegal aliens, welfare benefits, workfare, education, free speech and everything else.

          What he has done is fire a goddam cannon indoors in a room full of libs, scrub that, RADICALS. Twenty five years ago, these folks were RADICALS not libs. Libs ARE GONE ALONG WITH Automats and Beta tape players. The concussion is making their ears bleed. They have dropped their usual subtlety and are on full attack mode and WE can see them for who they really are. Brilliant! Especially if it works.

          • gmanfortruth says:

            All great points. Having lunch with my mother yesterday, she has always called herself a Democrat, yet has conservative views. I had to explain to her that today’s Democrats are not what they were in the 70’s, this is a very different group (although the corruption part seems to have stuck around, and gotten worse).

      • gmanfortruth says:

        In some ways, I feel bad for Mathius and Buck. They are not violent, as far as I know, but those whom they have similar political beliefs are causing a very broad brush when painting the Left.

        I also think it’s hilarious when Trump punches back at his verbal attackers and they act like they didn’t deserve it. They can dish it out but they can’t take it when people fight back…..cowards and sissy’s .

      • Just A Citizen says:

        There is somewhere around 100 million people in this country who identify as “liberal”, or “left”.

        Seems to me the number of radical idiots acting out on the internet and in front of cameras numbers in the hundreds. OK, lets say a few thousand.

        You have a better chance of suffering a Jihadist attack than running into one of these wingnuts. Unless of course you do something to attract them, or crash one of their little parties.

        Besides, how do you know the people posting this vile garbage are actually “leftists” and not “conservatives”, AltRight, or even Russians??????

        Don’t let these people distract you from the important things. This young girl should be held up as an example of GOOD. That is how you deal with the asshats who posted the vile responses.

        • You have to remember that the Bolshevik revolution triumphed through two things. 1. Intimidation and 2. Perception that the 20% or less supporting Bolshevism were in fact the majority.

          That is what we are dealing with today.

          To give a non-political example. Watching commercial television ( I owe my wife for this one) you would think that at last half the population is black when it comes to commercials not the 12.something percent. New thing is interracial couples. All the rage on commercial TV advertising yet, still not the norm by a long shot in the real world. Wonder what a man in the street poll would say about both?.

  54. It is, likewise, a sad situation when you are now guilty until prove innocent. Now, all of a sudden, all these retractions are being issued….no apology…just an oops.

    It used to be that a retraction from the news media was a big thing. Now it is a weapon…..they insinuate and hide behind “nameless sources” and “informed sources” and White House sources……no names…nothing. One thing that I really loved about Mathius was his insistance upon citations. But where he strayed was……informed sources, nameless sources, white house sources…..claiming that unsupported accusations…from a number of sources was enough to warrant investigation using the where there is smoke there is fire analogy. But the smoke was created by “informed sources”…no names. And now, all these intelligence agencies that were unanimous are suddenly not so unanimous and there have still been no charges but the insistance upon Trump to disprove un-named sources is not the way this is supposed to work. They are suddenly working on a perponderance of evidence…..but there is no evidence….not a shred. In addition, there have been NO FOREIGN intellegence agencies come forward when there were supposed to be many. Not one credible named source has come forward….not one. THAT is shame. And the so called, four intelligence agencies are suddenly being shown as collaborative. Our own FBI, CIA, and NSA…..unbelievable.

    How can one put any trust in anything governmental now?

    How can one put any trust in media…and unbiased reporting?

    What have we turned over to our kids…..nothing but corruption…..on all sides.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      Is it true that HRC still has a security clearance?

    • gmanfortruth says:

      How can one put any trust in anything governmental now?

      It is impossible to trust the Federal government. Pick a subject or agency and it’s not hard to find a reason to slam them.

      How can one put any trust in media…and unbiased reporting?

      Is it time to redefine the Press? Is CNN worthy of Press credentials? MSNBC? I think not, as they are nothing more than political activist’s.

      What have we turned over to our kids…..nothing but corruption…..on all sides.

      Yup! Obamacare will never go away, it will just change names. Sad

  55. AT TRay……really now…..San Francisco is going to pay $190,000 of your dollars to an illegal immigrant, that violated Federal Law…..is here ILLEGALLY in accordance with FEDERAL LAW……and now, because he was arrested by a state agency in violation of a state law that was in violation of Federal Law………..what are you guys thinking out there?

    Sigh……you really need to move. Run away before it is too late.

    • Five years of drinking drought tainted water has addled their brains. Several years ago, I took my wife to a doctor’s appointment. The doc asked if we got federal or state assistance. My answer was there is no government money coming into this household. Her response was why not, the illegals get it. My plan is to sneak into Mexico and come back as and illegal.

      • Hmmmm…make sure you cross the border in California or Arizona…..you might not get through here….we have it closed pretty tight. However, from now through March 31, 2018…..I still have significant clout down here.

  56. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    One heck of a discussion on voter fraud in the US. Even though they did not get into the 2016 election much, after watching this panel, I’m convinced the “Russian” narrative about collusion is nothing but the old magicians trick about getting you to look the other way while they pull the stunt with the other hand.

  57. As we left church this evening they played “America”.

    The bride informs me that as recently as 1977, when she left her position as an early childhood teacher for the NYC Board of Ed she was REQUIRED to teach the first and fourth verse of America. Please note the last verse. One must always ask, what happened between then and now?

    My country, ‘ tis of thee,
    Sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing;
    Land where my fathers died,
    Land of the pilgrims’ pride,
    From every mountainside let freedom ring!

    My native country, thee,
    Land of the noble free, thy name I love;
    I love thy rocks and rills,
    Thy woods and templed hills;
    My heart with rapture thrills, like that above.

    Let music swell the breeze,
    And ring from all the trees sweet freedom’s song;
    Let mortal tongues awake;
    Let all that breathe partake;
    Let rocks their silence break, the sound prolong.

    Our fathers’ God, to thee,
    Author of liberty, to thee we sing;
    Long may our land be bright
    With freedom’s holy light;
    Protect us by thy might, great God, our King.

    I suspect sometime, between then and now the entire country has suffered from a major mind fart.

  58. Hmmm, never thought of it this way. The deplorables are pushing for us not to say Happy 4th of July in favor of Happy Independence Day. The progressives want to drop independence from the vocabulary, in favor of dependence… on Big Gov.

    What has SK been harping on since ’09?….language.

    Came across this meme also…can’t figure out how to bring it over so I’ll just type:

    We’re closed Tuesday, July 4th, in observance of Brexit 1776.

  59. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    I’ve been totally enjoying the reports out of Poland and their lack of a migrant problem. Apparently they did take a batch of around 1000 back in the beginning of the crisis. The rub was the Polish government has VERY low welfare payouts as compared to countries like Germany, France and Sweden. The migrants/refugees beat feet and went to the countries that paid more with NO work requirements.

    A report by a British female journalist after she went to Sweden to try and find out the truth of the problems and rumors in that country. This was after Trump spoke on the issue and Sweden and other officials tried to refute his and other statements. Like the Swedish women are afraid to go out so they will not be accosted by the gangs on the streets etc. Now this is in a country that holds its head up in pride with its stand on feminism and their alleged freedoms…..her finding was that the rumors were true and the official satements were pure BS. According to her report the people leading the vicious attacks of the swedish women politically are the rabid feminists themselves. By calling them racists, etc etc etc.

    Just like my experience in Amsterdam. Women were being accosted by muslim youth gangs and when they complained to authorities they were told to be more tolerant. That lead to them changing their behavior by covering up and being more “modest” to avoid attacks. The same reported and confirmed by friends in Sicily on the beaches there. The girls are being charged and fined for wearing bikinis that “offend” muslim tourists. What about the islamist being tolerant eh?. .

    • THey now have two beaches in Tahiti…..where there is no skin showing. TAHITI….of all places.

      • Dale A. Albrecht says:

        Question for those that have “vacationed” or done time in the M/E….what do they do for fun?

        I was just wondering while mowing the lawn this AM, with few exceptions I believe western Europe is lost. Should we brace for a wave of migrants. aka Europeans that have seen their lives upended as they knew it and were denied the ability to fight back for their hard fought for rights. Eastern Europe, the slavic States, Baltic States, Austria and definitely Russia will survive.

        • We have a strong history of arming the oppressed. Maybe we should have the CIA start arming the citizens of western Europe to fight the tyranny in their countries.

        • Anyone who opposes the spread of Islam in to western societies is labeled Islamophobic. I think the real Islamophobics are the the appeasers who acquiesce to their demands. Not only are they fearful of Islam, they are cowards.

        • They will come here and F— this up too.

          • Dale A. Albrecht says:

            Strong vetting will have to be done.

            Did you ever think that you’d see a repeat of Chamberlain’s appeasement? Slightly different circumstances…WWI was still fresh on peoples minds and the depression was still on. Propaganda was just as effective portraying the socialists, fascists etal as the way out……outcome will potentially be the same capitulate and see your life turned on end or end or fight.

  60. Dale A. Albrecht says:

    Nice of NJ having a budget dispute that is not resolved thereby closing the State parks and beaches on the 4th of July holiday weekend.

  61. gmanfortruth says:

    The media has no idea how to respond because all they know is lying and whipping up fake hysteria. Rather than actually start telling the truth, they think if they just scream louder and louder their old tactics will suddenly start to work once again.

    In the latest case, Trump tweeted out an hilarious meme from the memers on r/The_Donald and the media has responded by hysterically claiming it’s a threat to their lives and an impeachable offense.

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56969

    Not only are the Liberal media hack’s hypocrits, they are disingenuous. It’s OK to them to have a play in NYC depicting the assassination of Trump, but what is obviously a freaking joke is a threat to them.

  62. NOW, BOYS AND GIRLS, has anybody heard about the NY Times retraction of the “17 Agencies agree that Russia hacked” Story which was the BASIS for many pre and post election Trump conspiracy stories? Well, here it is…..

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ny-times-correction-russia-election/2017/06/30/id/799149/

    By the way, now it is four!

  63. Yes, I believe it would, course it might bring out more dems. too

    http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2017/07/03/another-supreme-court-vacancy-seems-likely/

  64. I too think he needs to tone it down. He shouldn’t take the bait. But what do I know, I realized several years ago when Obama was reelected, that I had no idea what the people would do anymore.

    https://amgreatness.com/2017/07/02/trumps-high-stakes-tweeting/

    • gmanfortruth says:

      I fully support Trump’s Tweets and I hope he keeps doing them. I find it hilarious when he slams the media and they flip out, yet we all know it’s phony and hypocritical. It’s also nice to see Trump as a regular person, who fights back against the biased Liberal MSM….they deserve everything they get and deserve more. They are NEVER going to treat him fairly, so he may as well destroy their credibility, or what is left. The Lies and hate of the Liberal Left is what got him elected and what got the GOP the majority in both houses of Congress…these dolts are doubling down and will get destroyed in 2018. Sadly, they can’t see how truly pathetic they really are, but the people can and they are sick of it.

      • I’m with you G. His whole campaign theme was to speak for the forgotten man. He tweets what we have all thought in our own minds but were afraid to say, because PC. It would be different if his whole gig was to just play on twitter. But he’s accomplishing his agenda at the same time. Now, when elections roll around, they’ll say ” yeah but, tweets”, while he can say “yeah but, border security, economics, supreme court, energy policy, draining the swamp, etc, etc”.

  65. So, it turns out several days after the fact, I finally have to search out a picture of the Bx. Hospital Shooter to find out that despite the vowel at the end of his name, he was not Italian.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/bronx-hospital-shooter-bought-assault-rifle-days-rampage-article-1.3295634

    • Was he native or foreign born?

      • No idea yet. You have to dig this stuff out. The media “spikes” everything that does not go with the narrative. It was a NY State compliant AR clone with no suppressor, no bayonet lug, no pistol grip and a seven rd. mag. as per Governor Cuomos ban.

        • There are an incredible number of unanswered questions here. Even the mighty NY TImes can’t figure the guy’s history out. He had an African Name before he changed it but nobody knows if he was born here or there. Somehow got the money to buy an AR type rifle while he was living in a homeless shelter, bought the gun in Schenectady which is not exactly around the block from the Bronx and somehow managed to garner a medical degree from one of those “off shore medical schools” (who paid the freight). He is wandering around town with a Section 8 housing certificate in his pocket, was apparently at one time a licensed pharmacist and to top it all off in 2004, grabbed a woman off the street in NYC and attempted to “rape” her and gets hit with a misdemeanor. Sounds like a movie of the week with a ticking clock in the background.

  66. Very interesting report today from the US Dept of Education……according to them…..80% of New York High School students cannot read……..

    So, I was putting this to some thought and the immediate thing that came to mind is Mayor Bloomy, as he is affectionally called now, had an immediate priority to ban large sodas. BUT, you can buy two small ones that make one large one….perhaps he is a graduate of the same schools? Perhaps reading is not the only thing he cannot do? Math, perhaps?

    Now, here is my next question….Kim Kardashian was supposedly held at gun point in Paris, France. The media ate that up..it was big news. The Obama Pentagon was caught paying a PR firm $540 million to make fake terrorist videos………………crickets.

    Why?

  67. And then this………the United States Air Force….My knowledge and resources will keep this world a safe place.

    The United States Army…My strength in leadership will protect all people from evil.

    The United States Marines…Semper Fi.

    D13’s Texans……Bullets. I am going to use a shit load of bullets…and maybe a boot knife. When in doubt, shoot in every direction.

    Have a wonderful 4th…….Brexit 1776…..love it.

    • Dale A. Albrecht says:

      “We’re surrounded. That simplifies the problem.”
      – Quote Attributed to Chesty Puller, USMC

      “All right, they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us, they’re behind us…they can’t get away this time”
      – Lewis B. Chesty Puller, USMC

      “They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can’t get away from us now!”
      – Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller, USMC

      “The mail service has been excellent out here, and in my opinion this is all that the Air Force has accomplished during the war.”
      – Chesty Puller in a letter to his wife while in Korea

      • Actually the United States Air Force (those of the warm showers first) managed to drop an entire Bailey Bridge to Colonel Puller out of the back of C-119’s in the Mountains of North Korea so that he could continue his “attack in a different direction” from the Chosin Reservoir.

        I have mixed feelings about The Colonel. The destruction of the 1st Marines at Pelieliu has never sat right with me. His legendary toughness certainly saved the day in Korea for the Marines and soldiers under his command especially compared to what happened on the other side of the peninsula to the Army forces. Just goes to show you how difficult it is to make the call on a warrior like that.

      • One of Murphy’s Rules of Combat……If your attack is going well…you are probably ambushed.

  68. Happy Brexit76

  69. Just A Citizen says:

    Time for ya’ll to remember when I told you how the system works and why it would be hard for Mr. Trump to overturn environmental regulations, hell any regulations, issued under Mr. Obama. As I said then, the Court’s have established a strange rule by which Agencies cannot simply retract prior decisions. The Wizards have placed themselves as arbiters of what should be done, what is appropriate, what is good and bad. They use the general rules against arbitrary and capricious governance against any attempt to undo prior Agency decisions unless supported by scientific or social findings that they agree with.

    http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/340536-court-rejections-trumps-delay-of-epa-drilling-pollution-rule

    When people do not understand this they start thinking that Congress or the POTUS just don’t care. But it is the COURTS that have taken this power and established this gridlock. The FIX will require constant and long term sustained efforts to get the right people elected and make the right appointments to the lower and Supreme courts. And therein lies the problem in itself. How to keep multiple generations focused on the same goals for the time frame required.

    Happy INDEPENDENCE DAY my fellow Americans. For those that crave to be Europe, feel free……………..live free…………….. but most of all, just leave.

    Semper Fi

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