Lunatic Weekend

thVTLGERXJTwo lunatics, 29 dead, many wounded.  Now, the blame game has already begun before the bodies cooled.  Lunatics are not always the one’s with the guns.

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  1. SMH!

  2. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    They called the folks in the 1920’s the “Lost Generation”. Seems to me that is equally applicable here.

    Based on drop out rates, college attendance, opioid use, general drug use, the dropping out from society, young men today feel useless and some intend to “be heard” no matter what.

    Here is apparently the first one they can honestly try and dump in Trump’s lap and use against him. I have not doubt that regardless of president this joker would have done the same.

    Quick trial, quick execution.

    • I don’t see at at Trumps feet, i see it at the Crats and liberal medias feet for pushing continuously false narratives and outright lies. Tell a lie long enough, people start to believe it, and gullible liberals fall for this crap constantly.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        The whack job went on an anti-hispanic rant which will be translated into an anti-immigrant rant. Funny part about that I that, and I’m sure the Colonel can verify, El Paso has been majority hispanic for a long-long time.

        And that will be the narrative, Trump is anti immigrant, anti hispanic, anti non white and wants:

        “TO MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN”

        Plays into Omar’s hand does it not? That is, America should be afraid of white males.

        Where the hell were all the concealed carries?

    • Tried to start watching this twice now…fell asleep both times. Gonna make it thru tonight no matter what. 🙂

  3. Keep in mind, these mass shootings while terrible and emotional pale in comparison to the fentanyl death rate.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      And that my friend is symptomatic of what I am saying, no hope, no future, “why the F— not?” is the attitude.

      I remember back in the mid 60’s my family in the coal region. I’d go there and read the local papers. There seemed then to be just three things for a teen to do, Get someone pregnant and get married at 18, join the Army to get away or wrap your car around an abutment or lamp post at high speed with a six pack of Rolling Rock on the seat next to you. Things have gotten much worse since then.

      Unfortunately, Trump came along some 20 years too late to head off some of these trends. Unless there is a follow-on Trump after 2024, the “revolution ” or perhaps “counter revolution” will not be completed.

      • Candice Owen in the above video talks about the culture war and how we have lost it. The educational system constantly drums into the students how bad America is/was, how bad capitalism is. We have lost the MSM. We have mostly lost Hollywood and the late night shows. The drum beat is continuous and yet the country is marginally center right. I fear as the boomer die off, this will change.

        • Yeah the millennial like to blame the boomers for screwing up. What oh what are they gonna say to their chidren!

  4. Iran seized another tanker. When will the ship owners start arming these ships or getting escorts through the straits?

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Folks, how much coverage was given around the nation to the shooting spree in a Brooklyn Park at an event two weeks back. 1 died 12 were hit and 100 cops were present for “security”. The Perp (s) still; have not been caught.

      Now locally we had a lot of coverage but like Chicago, I wonder how many of you were aware of it.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Not one headline here. Nor on my browser. Plus those that VH mentioned. ZZZZZZZZ

  5. https://www.weaselzippers.us/428091-hilarious-a-look-into-the-democratic-socialists-of-america-convention-in-atlanta/

    One is tempted to either laugh at or feel sorry for these people but don’t do either, they are dangerous.

  6. El Paso = False Flag. Yep, I said it. Change my mind. While I’m at it….Las Vegas = False Flag. Leaning toward false flag for Sandy Hook now too. It’s either that or I’m going crazy. I know TRay…everyone but me and you and you’re not so sure about me.

  7. While the media has been quick to blame President Trump for the mass shooting in El Paso, they are noticeably quieter about the mass shooter in Ohio, who described him self as a “socialist,” praised Antifa and expressed support for Elizabeth Warren.
    Before it was suspended last night, Connor Betts’ Twitter feed made it clear that he was a left-wing fringe extremist. Amongst other things, Betts;
    – Described himself as a “leftist”
    – Tweeted “I want socialism”.
    – Tweeted “Warren I’d happily vote for”.
    – Retweeted Bernie Sanders numerous times.
    – Retweeted Antifa accounts numerous times.
    – Tweeted “kill every fascist”.
    – Tweeted “burn the world to the ground to start the new one”.
    – Repeatedly tweeted “hail Satan”.
    – Expressed praise and sympathy for the Antifa terrorist who attempted to firebomb an ICE facility, calling him a “martyr”.
    – Used Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s “concentration camp” rhetoric.
    – Tweeted “vote blue for gods sake”.
    – Wore a patch that said “Against All Gods”.
    – Expressed support for the “punch a Nazi” meme.
    – Retweeted Right Wing Watch’s Jared Holt.
    – Advocated for gun control.

    Notice the last one? This asshat is exactly why gun control can never happen.

    • Another issue not noted……the El Paso shooter was an ardent supporter of Bernie Sanders. It is all over this manifesto…yet Trump is blamed.

      One of the shooters was dishonorably discharged from the military and yet……passed a background check.

      Chicago had mass shootings of 43 over the weekend with 5 dead and 47 wounded……crickets. Baltimore had 14 shootings….crickets.

      The El Paso shooter was turned down three times in three different locations in three different cities IN TEXAS for purchasing a weapon….he goes to Las Cruces, New Mexico and legally purchases a weapon. The question should be asked…..why was he turned down in Texas and not turned down in New Mexico and Texas turned over the name to the FBI prior to his purchase in New MExico……why did the FBI not place his name in the Federal Background Check? Why don’t they ask Texas how we did not trust him…….

      The El Paso shooter was on the computer for months with a manifesto….why was he not turned in? It had over 1 million hits…..Unbelievable, the number of ways this guy could have been taken out of society and it was not done. His firends said that it was none of their business.
      ————————————–

      Quit blaming guns….there is plenty of blame to go around and this sanctimonious crap being spewed by pundits is beyond the pail.

  8. Dale A Albrecht says:

    This was sent to me and I thought it was appropriate for my stage of life. Its also also nice to take a break from the political rhetoric. If you’ve seen it before it will still make you smile, If you have been married even for a short time you will be able to relate.
    8 again!

    A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, watching his wife, who was
    looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off he asked what she’d like to have for her birthday.

    ‘I’d like to be eight again’, she replied, still looking in the mirror.

    On the morning of her Birthday, he arose early, made her a nice big bowl of Coco Pops, and then took her to Adventure World theme park. What a day! He put her on every ride in the park; the Death Slide, the Wall of Fear, the Screaming Roller Coaster, everything there was.

    Five hours later they staggered out of the theme park. Her head was reeling and her stomach felt upside down. He then took her to a McDonald’s where he ordered her a Happy Meal with extra fries and a
    chocolate shake.

    Then it was off to a movie, popcorn, a soda pop, and her favorite candy, M&Ms. What a fabulous adventure!

    Finally she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed into bed exhausted.

    He leaned over his wife with a big smile and lovingly asked, ‘Well Dear, what was it like being eight again’?

    Her eyes slowly opened and her expression suddenly changed.

    ‘I meant my dress size, you @*#*! retard!!!!’

    The moral of the story: Even when a man is listening, he is gonna get it wrong.

    SEND THIS TO ALL THE MEN & WOMEN WHO NEED A LAUGH

  9. T minus 12 days.

  10. And now, a quote from my daughter:

    “My brain wakes up later than I do.”

    I feel the same way.

  11. In exile…..again. It must be a Mathius plot….

  12. Colonel,

    Still waiting on you to play out the scenario from Friday.

    Guidelines here: https://standupforamerica.wordpress.com/2019/07/31/we-need-this-more/#comment-249614

    • Well put

      • Say what you will about me, but I did the math and concluded guns are a non-issue in this country.

    • 1500 people shot in Chicago this year so far. Gun control laws will never work. Background checks would not have stopped either murderers this weekend. Answer: Exercise your rights and carry.

      • Gun control laws will never work.

        Point of order!

        Gun control laws – CAN – work to stop gun violence. They can’t stop violence as I have said over and over again – people will just switch to knives, etc. But it CAN work to stop gun violence.

        Consider Japan. Or Australia. Or the UK. Odd.. three islands with strict gun control laws and hardly any gun violence. Why? Because you can’t just hop over the border and buy guns.

        Really, how effective can you expect a ban to be when you can just go next door to get what you want? It’s not that bans can’t work – it’s just that they can’t work when (A) the penalties are high enough and (B) they’re too easy to circumvent geographically.

        Now, I want to be clear. Again, banning guns nationally would stop mass shootings. But it would almost certainly just replace them with pipe bombs or mass stabbings or some more inventive way of killing people.

        • No Mathius,,,,,you hit on it geographically……..too easy to get guns into the US…..in order to control this….would would definitely need a wall and definitely need check points. You mentioned Australia, Japan, and UK…….they still have weapons and people can own them. They all stlill have long guns that can hold 9 shots in a magazine and five shotgun shells in a magazine. They have banned handguns except in the outback and Japan has record levels of handguns illegally. They have banned what has been incorrectly determined as assault wepaons……..

          There are three well known gun trafficking routes into the US from Canada…..everyone knows about them…and where they are but they are not shut down…..the question is wy is Canada allowing this? How are they importing them through Canadian ports and into the US. Same way in Mexico…..I personally know where there are approximately 16 crossing points in my control area alone where weapons are routinely brought into the country.

          So, you are correct, geographically……you will not stop the importation of weapons and you cannot shut down the black market.

          NOw, sir……This Colonel can stop it….but you understand that you will not like my methods and the snow flakes and weak members of Congress will just have a coniption. A plexy…..but it can be done and it can be done without eroding the rights of the country…..but you cannot go halfway.

          • This Colonel can stop it….but you understand that you will not like my methods and the snow flakes and weak members of Congress will just have a coniption. A plexy…..but it can be done and it can be done without eroding the rights of the country…..but you cannot go halfway.

            Who cares?

            Why fight it so that we can just replace mass shootings with mass pipe-bombings?

            Anyway, the deaths are barely a rounding error in terms of US deaths. How ’bout we take all that wall money and put it into cancer research?

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            I worked with a fellow from Jamaica for a few years. Firearms are tightly controlled down there yet the island is rife with them. As a property owner ( a large farm he inherited from his father) he wanted a shotgun and pistol but could not legally obtain them. He shipped them in, broken down, in furniture from the US. I have another friend who took his Winchester and Colt .38 to Greece exactly the same way when he retired. If you cannot keep them out of an island like Jamaica (or the US Virgin Islands for that matter), the “problem’s” root cause is something other than guns. ,

  13. Canine Weapon says:
  14. Many of those wanting to be President seem to be blaming Trump for the mass shootings. These jerks have no business in politics, they are asshats on steroids. The Liberal media is just as bad. But, I guess now we can blame Obama on Sandy Hook, since he was in the big chair at the time.

    But, after some thought, let these idiots keep up their BS. Trump will be doing his rally’s in sold out stadiums soon. The Crats have ZERO chance in 2020. As for Biden, he didn’t even know where these shootings occurred, he needs to retire and go live out his life relaxing. I kind of feel bad for him, as I do for all the elderly as they head down the their last road.

    • But, I guess now we can blame Obama on Sandy Hook, since he was in the big chair at the time.

      The lunatic fringe on the right attacked Obama for a fake crisis using “crisis actors” and so on, going so far as to assert that it was a conspiracy by the Obama administration to seize guns.

      The left attacked Obama for doing nothing on gun control.

      The NRA, despite the fact that Obama really did nothing about guns, gave him an F.

      The Brady Campaign, meanwhile, also gave him a scathing review for his inaction.

      ::shrug::

      • Good points. But what could he have done?

        • But what could he have done?

          Obama? Nothing.

          Trump? Also nothing.*

          I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but banning guns would just result in an uptick in mass-stabbings.

          ———–

          *disclaimer: I have avoided reading about these shootings and have no idea the motivation. So, if it turns out that they did it specifically because of something Trump said or did, I reserve the right to change my answer.

          • I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but banning guns would just result in an uptick in mass-stabbings.

            I think that you would have a larger problem. Who would actually turn them in? If you put out an edict from the government tomorrow to turn in all weapons…..(1) it is un-enforceable. No police officer will even think about going to someone’s house to pick up guns, (2) A house to house check will result in lots……LOTS….of deaths. I am law abiding….mostly. BUt like the bumper sticker says…”you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.” I will never give up my weapons…..never. (3) the black market in weaponry will triple over night.

            • I suppose you offer a buy-back program as the carrot and enormous prison sentences as the stick?

              Other countries have done it. Ask them.

              I have no doubt there’d be a lot of hidden caches, though.

              • Isn’t it strange that so many want to blame the tool used instead of the real problem, mental illness.

              • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

                instead of the real problem, mental illness.

                Assuredly mental illness is a significant component.

                Another component is our culture and lack of (easy) access to mental health services. Many insurance programs do not cover therapy and/or have significant co-pays to mental health medications. While I would be hesitant to say that therapy necessarily could have prevented these events, it might have.

                Another component is a sigma against therapy and any kind of mental health issue. It is seen as a moral or personal failing rather than what it is – a disease. I think sometimes about what I read once re Robin Williams. People were saying how tragic it was that he killed himself. Someone said, “no, he didn’t kill himself. His disease killed him. He just lost the fight after years of struggle.”

                Another component is easy access to guns, but, as discussed, this might mitigate mass SHOOTINGS, but would likely to do nothing re mass KILLINGS.

                But if you ask me – the number A1 problem behind the “epidemic” of gun violence is media related. That’s not to blame any particular outlet or agenda, but violence sells. Outrage sells. Feelings of persecution sells. The media GOBBLES that up and amplifies it. And this has two primary consequences. (A) it -feels- like there’s more than there is and (B) would-be shooters see it as a potential path to fame and/or celebrity and/or getting their message out. I don’t need to expand on this – I’m sure you understand fully.

                I guarantee that, much like whoever the Kardashians are, if you just stopped reporting on them for a year, they would go away nearly entirely.

                Isn’t it strange that so many want to blame the tool used

                The tool is scary.

                People fear mass shootings and believe that the surest way to prevent them is to get rid of the tool being used. You can’t really blame them for thinking this way – if you thought social media was bad, getting rid of computers would certainly fix the problem.

                (This, of course, is wholly divorced from the fact that it would be immoral to impose on my freedoms by banning guns – Y’AARRRGGH!)

                It’s hard to talk about mental heath in this country / culture. It’s a tough nut to crack. How do you fix it? How can you be sure you got everyone and treated everyone? What of those who refuse treatment or who you don’t know are mentally ill, or who are just fine until they ‘crack’?

                And that’s to say nothing to the mind boggling expense of mental health treatment and the fact that there aren’t NEARLY enough qualified therapists around to fix all of our neuroses. And that to say nothing of the fact that we have no idea how to effectively treat everyone’s neuroses.

                Drugs don’t work on everyone, and not the same on everyone, and therapy as to be customized and and and….

                Much easier to attack what they view as the weak link – “sure, people are going to go nuts, but if they don’t have ‘military style assault rifles,’ then they won’t be able to do as much harm!”

                If you want to help “your side,” you should make a point of pushing this line of reasoning.

              • Gman….I am going to take the other side here……not anti gun but the back ground checks…..I am as pro gun as they come….hell, I would own a LOADED rocket launcher. But even I think that the back ground checks are not comprehensive enough. Allow me an example….I did this at Cabella’s two years ago. I go in and bought the following:

                (3) AR 15’s, (1) Bushmaster, (1) 20 guage combat Mossburg, (1) .45 ACP (2) .380 Walther PPKs and (2) .22 Walther PPKs……….in one setting. My background check came back within 15 minutes. Now, that is not to say anything except that my FBI records and SSN were clean. BUT…would you not think that buying that type of weaponry in one setting would raise a red flag regardless of how clean my record was? ? Or should it raise a red flag? Especially when you buy the corressponding ammunition for each. And especially since I bought “silencers for each of the rifles and the .45. Should that not raise a question? Two of the AR 15s were gifts. The rest was for my spousal unit and I. But that is not the point. Her background was not checked….and neither am I prohibited from giving weapons as gifts withour background checks.

                Now….I am law abiding. I did not give those weapons as gifts to people whom are looney tunes. I know whom I gave them to…but that is a personal responsibility. Texas is unique in one way ( I am sure that we are not the ony gun totin’ state that is ) but our weapons are not registered. Texas does not keep registry. I like that part….you cannot go into any file and find out who has what. BUT….should I have been able to walk out with two push baskets full of guns and ammo in 15 minutes? I would support a comprehensive background check even if it took 3-5-or 7 days….I would not like the inconvenience but I would support it if it kept weapons out of the hands of idiots.

                No medical records are checked…for example mine. My medical records have stamped on them in big RED letters….PTSD. But with that stamp, it says…..no restrictions. Much like a driver’s license. But all that is checked are FBI files. I know this is a slippery slope but in order to keep weapons….but should not all files be able to be checked…..including a credit report?

                Texas has another issue that I do not agree with…although I have done it many times. Gun shows….anybody can sell a gun to anybody with no background checks what-so-ever. This is wrong. Very wrong. If I wanted to sell my AR 15 to someone I did not know…all I have to do is say, show me the money. Vada Voom….it is done.

                So, no, you cannot blame the weapon…I agree…….but there is something that can be done.

              • Good points Pirate! The guns are here and not going anywhere. While they might ban the sale of some, the Constitution prevents making ownership illegal, including so called assault rifles. I also don’t think there will be any ban, regardless of how many lunatics shoot people with them. What will stop these mass shootings are more good people with guns at work and in general. Laws that make people powerless just isn’t working, as we can see.

  15. Question: With all the Lefty’s screaming for government to do something about gun related violence, what exactly can government do?

  16. Dale A Albrecht says:

    According to a new report by the Spanish Sociology Research Center (CSI), for the first time in its history, Spain now has more atheists, agnostics and non-believers than practicing Catholics.

    FranceInfo reports that, while a third of the Spaniards reported being a Catholic, only 22.7% of them said they were attending mass and regularly approaching the confession. In Catalonia, only 10.9 percent of believers reported going to Mass regularly and confessing, while in Rojia, south of the Basque Country, about 40 percent of people are still practicing Catholics.

    • Religion just can’t compete with science.

      It’s going to take a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time for the last vestiges of religion to die off, but die off it will.

      • And that will be a sad day as the moral compass goes into perpetual spinning.

        • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

          as the moral compass goes into perpetual spinning.

          “The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want?

          Any my answer is: I do rape all I want.

          And the amount I want is zero.

          And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero.

          The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them, that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.”

          Penn Jillette

          • And where did Mr. Jillette get his morals from?

            • Don’t forget that the Pirates Boss says that comedians get greater lattitude.

              • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

                The pirate’s WHAT now?

                ::quietly loads the 80 pounders::

                (and, no, that wasn’t a typo)

            • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

              Perhaps from being a decent human being?

              Parents who taught him not to murder?

              Sure as hell not from the bible… if you want to go down that road, I’ll be happy to point out a few select passages where it condones rape, murder, and slavery.

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            He speaks as if HE is speaking for everyone. He is not. As previously pointed out ad infinitium, the basis for our “moral” society was religion.

            • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

              I ABSOLUTELY reject that assertion.

              Religion, being created by man, is merely a reflection of morality at the time it was codified. You posit morality following religion as though God descended, shook his finger, and man collectively slapped its forehead with the realization that they shouldn’t murder each other.

              • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

                There were these ten things…….Then there was this guy who stood on some hillside and started by saying, “Blessed are…..”

              • here were these ten things

                1, 2, 3, and 4 boil down to “I’m god, worship me.”

                5 is a good idea, but not at all related to objective “morality”

                6 is a good idea, but do you honestly mean to tell me that people didn’t know murder was bad until Mt. Sinai?

                7 is a good idea, but (A) again, had to have been previously known and (B) hinges on judeo-christian ideas of marriage / marital fidelity.

                8 is a good idea, but do you honestly mean to tell me that people didn’t know stealing was bad until Mt. Sinai?

                9 is a good idea, but do you honestly mean to tell me that people didn’t know giving false testimony lying was bad until Mt. Sinai?

                10 is just dumb and has nothing at all to do with objective “morality.” I covet all the time.

                Then there was this guy who stood on some hillside and started by saying, “Blessed are…..”

                He had some good ideas, I’ll grant you.

                But you’ll have to be more specific what you think he said that wasn’t known beforehand.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        No it won’t. Science is heartless and amoral. Religion in its way gives a sense of moral boundaries. Once erased there are no restraints. No thought of jeez, maybe I shouldn’t do that. Once religions vacillate like a weathervane to the newest fad and in thing, they are no better than politicians. Who flip on a dime. Sciences and theories can be screwed up and wrong more often than I’d like to think about. Science convincing political governments had created in this country the most unhealthy population that there ever was. Science created a cancer rate of 6X what it was in 1970. Diabetes was more a genetic problem than 30% of our population either with the condition or pre diabetic. All driven by scientific studies and inventions.

        • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

          Once erased there are no restraints. No thought of jeez, maybe I shouldn’t do that.

          Then why hasn’t Mathius killed anyone yet?

          When he sees a pretty girl, why doesn’t he rape her?

          Sciences and theories can be screwed up and wrong more often than I’d like to think about.

          Boy.. I’d hate to remind you about religions’ track record…. How old is the Earth, again?
          What shape is it?

          Science convincing political governments had created in this country the most unhealthy population that there ever was.

          Objectively false.

          Life expectancy is the highest it has ever been. It’s even higher in some *ahem* less religious countries.

          Science created a cancer rate of 6X what it was in 1970.

          OBJECTION! Did it “create” this rate… or did it DIAGNOSE this rate?

          Like the people who say there’s been an uptick in homosexuality, I’d posit it was always there.. you just didn’t see it. And with autism. People say “oh, it’s a new phenomenon..” but we know damned well it was around in ye olden tymes.. it’s just that it wasn’t recorded well in the past.

          Cancer screenings and diagnoses are through the roof compared to the 70’s. Of course diagnoses are also up.

          Diabetes was more a genetic problem than 30% of our population either with the condition or pre diabetic.

          Well.. this might be fair. Science gave way to more food science which enabled more plentiful food and more sugary foods / sodas etc, which led the way for obesity and thus diabetes…

          Still, it’s not like anyone ever claimed science was perfect. It’s a TOOL, not an end in-and-of-itself. As you said, it’s amoral. Just like science gave us nuclear fission – it gave us both the good (power plants) and the bad (nukes).

          None the less, it ALSO gave us insulin so, you know, people who have diabetes don’t go into comas and die.. so that’s nice. How has “praying” worked on that kind of thing traditionally? How ’bout blood-letting to release the evil humors? Excisions? Want to place a bet on which one has a higher success rate?

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        Somehow Allah has no problem!

  17. Dale A Albrecht says:

    “School is starting back, some need to be reminded, Bullying is not ok at any age”

    This was posted by a friend who works in a NC school district.

    I do remember bullies in school. Somehow the problem always solved itself without school intervention. There was somebody even tougher in reality. A bully is a weakling and a coward who picks on people they think can not it will not defend themselves. Expand that to groups like antifa

    Bullying in school and out its a fact of life. It only became an issue in my opinion as people were being programmed to NOT defend themselves. Also the attitude that “i don’t want to get involved” or defend the person being abused. They’ll stand by and record it and post in FB or Twitter. Expand that to work. Very few managers i ever had managed by superior skills. They managed by threat of you lidung your job uf you did do what theey said, even if it was unethical, against company policy, violates client contract. The only organization I worked for where the workers and management operated under the same identical enforceable rules called the UCMJ was the military. It was such a pleasure to have seen our commander being arrested and placed in handcuffs by NCIS never to be seen again

    • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

      Somehow the problem always solved itself without school intervention

      Not to weigh too deeply into this particular topic, but we should be leery of the difference between “it always worked out in my experience” and “it always worked out.” We should be careful to ensure that we aren’t looking at the past through the lens of how well things went for ourselves and extrapolating that to how well it worked out for everyone.

      To give a terrible analogy, one might look back at the ’50’s and say “people were freer back then!”.. but then again, you might want to ask a black person about that.. or a gay person… or, hell, a woman.

      The point being, YOUR experience with a bully might have been “yea, it worked itself out.” But we should be careful not to extrapolate that to “every bullying situation came out fine in the end without intervention.” Because I think that’s an unsupported conclusion.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Not that there wasn’t intervention….it was NOT by officials at school or police and threats of legal action.

        I’ll say it again…I would have been arrested in Amsterdam for defending myself against an armed robber if I injured him in doing so. The criminal would have gotten off because 1) he was a migrant 2) he was black from Somalia 3) I was deemed a rich businessman 4) he was messed up in drugs and poor and unfortunate.

        The entire waiting area at the train station at rush hour, full of people stood around with their fingers up their collective ass holes and never lifted a finger to help. No alarm was raised by the ticket agent in full view if his window. The people have been hammered into bovine docility inspite of threats to their lives.

  18. Aye, ye filthy pirate, it may be an unsupported conclusion. But why do ye care. Ye be a pirate! However, back in me day, we didn’ run t’ teachers ‘n ye would only run t’ yer elders one time. Me pappy would say…..no matter how big they be ‘n no matter how many times ye get knocked down, ye face them. Ye do nah become a “tattle tale”…..ye do nah run away cryin’ ‘n ye do nah ignore th’ situation….’cause when ye get bullied in real life….ye gonna run t’ a policeman?

    • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

      But why do ye care.

      I don’t!

      However, back in me day, we didn’ run t’ teachers ‘n ye would only run t’ yer elders one time. Me pappy would say…..no matter how big they be ‘n no matter how many times ye get knocked down, ye face them. Ye do nah become a “tattle tale”…..ye do nah run away cryin’ ‘n ye do nah ignore th’ situation….’cause when ye get bullied in real life….ye gonna run t’ a policeman?

      That’s all well for ye.

      But there are small un’s for whom that wouldn’t work.

      (A) why should schools leave them out to hang, forcing them to defend themselves when they are unable and (B) why should we create a situation wherein being a bully asshole goings unpunished? Doesn’t that just create a bunch of traumatized kids and adults who think it’s fine to be bully assholes?

      • Ye ‘ave a point….sort o’. But in me way o’ thinkin’, sprogs are nah unsupervised at recess…teachers are out thar like guards but are powerless t’ do anythin’. Brin’ back th’ days o’ goin’ t’ th’ principal wit’ th’ paddle. Brin’ back th’ days that if a sprog shows disrespect, he be immediately elimnated from crew…or goes ‘n sits in a study hall monitored by th’ coach…I reckon we ‘ave raised a bunch o’ wimps that if somethin’ does nah go thar way…..they run t’ a safe spot. That ain’t addressin’ th’ problem either.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        There was a bully at school that weighed in at 235 6’3″. The way he got his kicks was to smash 120 lbs 5’5″ kids in PE games. One time he really pounded a kid i knew from way back. Mark came to me and asked what he could do to stop this bully. He didn’t run to coach. As a football player, I shared a special locker area with the bully separate from the rest. I told Mark, Lee wasn’t wearing his nut protection today. I told mark what to do when Lee targeted him again. Sure Mark took a hit, but Lee didn’t walk right for a week. His nuts swelled to orange size. When Lee was able to stand, he was swearing hed get mark. I stood next to mark and told lee if I ever hear that you go after mark you’ll have me to deal with and you know I’m stronger, faster, quicker than you and you know who’d wun that altercation. Lee never bullied anyone at school again.

        Kids used to stand up for their friends especially those weaker. The bullying was resolved amongst ourselves. Uf you don’t push back you will be a victim your whole life and that includes the workplace

  19. Dale A Albrecht says:
  20. The El Paso shooter hated Mexicans, according to his own words. The Left are screaming white supremacy. This kind of hatred most likely has a history and a cause, but I just don’t see white supremacy.

    The Dayton shooter killed his own sister before his rampage, he was clearly sick.

    The political hacks and pundit’s crying for action are clueless. The answer isn’t with laws and banning guns, it’s with empowering people more.

    Which leads me to this question. Can Walmart be held accountable for NOT protecting people on their property? If they are a “gun free zone’ as allowed by Texas law (I believe), do they not have the duty to protect?

    • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

      The El Paso shooter hated Mexicans, according to his own words. The Left are screaming white supremacy.

      Knowing only what you say here, it sure sounds like white supremacy racism.

      but I just don’t see white supremacy.

      That’s great that YOU don’t. Perhaps you could support that a big more than “yea, sure it looks like that, but I don’t think so.”

      The answer isn’t with laws and banning guns, it’s with empowering people more.

      The answer is that this is a non-threat. It’s not even a rounding error.

      Putting more guns in more hands – especially untrained and undisciplined hands – is a recipe for only more danger.

      It’s like saying “ever so often there’s a wild fire which is dangerous. If more people had flame throwers, they could burn off the excess brush and prevent the damage.” And, sure, that might be true of SOME people, but most people are going to end up starting fires either by accident or stupidity, or both.

      Can Walmart be held accountable for NOT protecting people on their property? If they are a “gun free zone’ as allowed by Texas law (I believe), do they not have the duty to protect?

      No.

      Not just because of the idea of “suing” which implies the acceptance of government authority.

      But also because no one forced you to go into Walmart (gods, what a post-apocalyptic scenario that would be!). You CHOSE to enter Walmart (gods, why would anybody do that?!).

      Don’t like the risk of being someone unarmed, don’t go there. Don’t care there enough and in great enough numbers, they’ll change the policy.

      Or they won’t. Whatever.

      But if you invite me into your home and say “sorry, but I’ll need you to leave your musket at the door,” it’s MY choice to comply or leave. If I then get shot in your living room by a crazy person who kicked in your door, should I sue you?

      • My definition of a white supremacist is a white person who hates all people who are not white and Jews. Hating Mexicans is specific to those who come from Mexico, but no mention if other Hispanics. Thats not racism either, its bigotry towards People from Mexico.
        Thw White supremacist bs is just liberals trying to point the finger at Trump. They, themselves are the true bigots.

  21. The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

    Two of the AR 15s were gifts.

    Colonel, you shouldn’t have!

    Your timing is great – a seagull just.. errr… well let’s just say the poop deck is aptly named.. I was going to see if I could hit it with the long 9’s, but this sounds more fun.

    I’ll swing by the docks to pick it up.

  22. The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

    Colonel says: [re background checks] .I would not like the inconvenience but I would support it if it kept weapons out of the hands of idiots.

    Ahhh… but WOULD it have kept weapons out of the hands of idiots?

    Just how thorough are these background checks you’re proposing? Should the secret service come interview your classmates? Take a polygraph? Make you pee in the cup?

    Further – by what RIGHT – do you propose interfering with the free sale of goods between two consenting adults on the off chance that maybe one of those items being sold MIGHT be used in a way which MIGHT cause harm to you in an extremely unlikely scenario?

    It seems to me that if you can justify this, then the liberals like Mathius can justify anything they want on the same rationalization.

    • Ahhh… but WOULD it have kept weapons out of the hands of idiots? None whatsoever, me bucko. Idiots will still get th’ guns.

      Just how thorough are these background checks you’re proposing? Should the secret service come interview your classmates? NO Take a polygraph? NOPE..no need Make you pee in the cup? No need

      Further – by what RIGHT – do you propose interfering with the free sale of goods between two consenting adults on the off chance that maybe one of those items being sold MIGHT be used in a way which MIGHT cause harm to you in an extremely unlikely scenario? Th’ same right that ye ‘ave wantin’ t’ loot me guns.

      It seems to me that if you can justify this, then the liberals like Mathius can justify anything they want on the same rationalization. Aye, ’tis correct but who cares wha’ Mathius thinks…he be sort o’ a liberal.

  23. The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

    Coloney says: [re background checks closing the gun show loophole] So, no, you cannot blame the weapon…I agree…….but there is something that can be done.

    How does this stop anyone from selling anyway? As many here would say, all you’ve done is stop the law abiding citizens from buying and selling guns – criminals will do so anyway.

    Though, of course, my view of “citizens” and “criminals” is skew to yours, but I’d like to see your answer anyway. Say you close the “gun show loophole,” what stops be from selling my gun anyway? Are you including a national registry with your proposal? Random ATF checks to ensure you can produce the weapons you say you have? A registry of people in therapy (like that wouldn’t have knock-on effects!)? What’s the “full” plan here?

    • Nothin’ be goin’ t’ stop ye from sellin’ a gun t’ anyone, ye crazy scallywag. Thar be no needs fer a NAtional registry….therefore, thar be no needs fer ATF checks, except fer normal background checks. Fer instance, when a background check be performed, th’ information ye filled out be public log anyway. However, assume that Mathius wanted t’ buy a gun ‘n they run a background check on his helmsman’s letter o’ marque ‘n they find out that he has a preference fer drinkin’ grog ‘n gettin’ caught while impaired. Wouldna Prudence (nah th’ wench) dictate that he should NOT ‘ave a letter o’ marque t’ carry or even purchase a gun? Wouldna Prudence (nah th’ wench) dictate that ye do nah give a weapon, legally, t’ a scallywag that be often under th’ influence? Does nah Prudence (nah th’ wench) suggest that tyin’ ones drivers letter o’ marque infractions t’ a back ground check nah make sense? ’tis jus’ one idea.

      • Why am I talking like a pirate?….what happened?…..where am I?……Where did all this sand come from?…..How many are there? Which way did they go? I must know…..for I am the leader……..

        Oh my……is this what life is when you cannot drink real Dr Pepper……

  24. The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

    Gman et al:

    For those who argue it is impossible to enforce a ban on guns…. what parallels do you see to this and the efforts to ban drugs?

  25. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Using any of these definitions Trump does not meet the criteria of being a bigot or racist. However, the 4 ladies of the squad definitely meet the criteria. And also most of the Democrat candidates. .

    Definition of bigot

    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudicesespecially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

    Definition of racism

    1Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

    1.1The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

    Anti semitism also is included in this “old” definition and is more appropriately placed in “Cultural Racism”

    Definition of Cultural racism

    Cultural racism, sometimes called neo-racism, new racism, or differentialist racism, describes prejudices and discrimination based on cultural differences between ethnic or racial groups

    This new definition being refined the past several decades includes colonialism and anti semitism

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      What I see and hear from the Democrats, left and their allies like the media is what we used to hear out of the mouths of the likes of George Wallace, Lester Maddox, Robert Byrd, Lyndon Johnson etal.

  26. Dow tanks 767 points in worst day of 2019 over China trade tensions

    Today was a good day for the Mathius Put Option Fund

    • Good for Mathius…..betting on the snake eyes. However, 767 points is a blip on the radar screen….even if it drops another 700 points tomorrow…..I lost a little paper value but I know it will be back just as fast as it dropped…..and with China devaluing its currency again that caused this……let them do it again and again even…….we will match it with a Fed drop and China cannot keep up. Meanwhile on the home front…Sir Mathius….Trump just made you money.

  27. A little history on assault weapons bans……the United States had an assault weapons ban from 1994 until 2004 when the ban was not extended.

    Summary: ” In general we found, really, very, very little evidence, almost none, that gun violence was becoming any less lethal or any less injurious during this time frame. So on balance, we concluded that the ban had not had a discernible impact on gun crime during the years it was in effect. Although the ban has been successful in reducing crimes with AWs [Assault Weapons], any benefits from this reduction were outweighed by steady or rising use of non-banned semiautomatics with LCMs [large-capacity magazines], which are used in crime much more frequently than AWs. Therefore, we cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation’s recent drop in gun violence. And, indeed, there has been no discernible reduction in the lethality and injuriousness of gun violence, based on indicators like the percentage of gun crimes resulting in death or the share of gunfire incidents resulting in injury, as we might have expected had the ban reduced crimes with both AWs and LCMs.”

    Now, and I know this is going to go against almost everyody on here….Can you ban certain things that make an otherwise legal weapon…illegal after modifications? Yes…..bump stocks, for instance. However, before they were banned, I went and bought one for my Bushmaster. At a rifle range for target shooting….it is fun to fire…..almost as fast as a fully automatic. BUt after putting 500 rounds through it….it is rather expensive and serves no purpose other than shooting silohuettes 100 yards down range….you ain’t hitting anything over 100 yards.

    Another thing that I found….only 2% of gun related crimes are committed by assault style weapons. And think of Ohio…..a six shot revolver fired in close proximity within 24 seconds would still have resulted in six deaths and others wounded depending on the weaponand type of round.

    So………..what is the answer. As mathius pointed out the statistics of gun violence…..it is actually at the low end of deaths in the same time period. Is this throwing out the baby with the bathwater?

    • Although the ban has been successful in reducing crimes with AWs [Assault Weapons], any benefits from this reduction were outweighed by steady or rising use of non-banned semiautomatics with LCMs [large-capacity magazines]

      Extend this to a total gun ban, and it reads:

      “Although the ban has been successful in reducing crimes with firearms, any benefits from this reduction were outweighed by steady or rising use of non-banned swords.”

  28. RUT ROH:

    President Obama talked about it a lot, including in June of 2015, after a gunman shot nine people in a Charleston, North Carolina church: “Let’s be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries,” Obama said.

    Days later, Sen. Harry Reid echoed his comments. “The United States is the only advanced country where this kind of mass violence occurs,” he said. More recently, the tragic, preventable slaying of 17 students by accused gunman Nikolas Cruz elicited similar sentiments from Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, speaking in the Senate just last Thursday: “This happens nowhere else other than the United States of America.”

    Powerful remarks, and no doubt heartfelt. But a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn’t lead the world in mass shootings. In fact, it doesn’t even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings.

    So who’s tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.

    That’s not all. There were also 27% more casualties from 2009 to 2015 per mass shooting incident in the European Union than in the U.S.

    “There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed,” the study said. “Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom.”

    Yet, some today propose banning rifles, in particular AR-15s, because they’ve been used in a number of mass killings. It’s important to note however that, according to FBI crime data cited this week by the Daily Caller, deaths by knives in the U.S. outnumber deaths by rifles by five to 1: In 2016, 1,604 people were killed by knives and other cutting instruments, while 374 were killed by rifles.
    ——————————

    So where does the answer lay?

  29. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Over the past weekend there were in the most heavily gun controlled city, 9 killing and 48 wounded. But that is the NORM in the city

  30. Dale A Albrecht says:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/TaftHighSchool/permalink/10156621332073830/

    I’ve been commenting on how far scholastically my high school has dropped

    The school quit the 2018 season and forfeited because they could field a team due to failing GPA grades of key players

    Scholastic performance for each and every one of us was assessed weekly in all classes for all tests and quizzes. If any test or quiz in any class fell below a C not GPA you didn’t play, nor travel on the team bus if away

  31. https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/274538/51-mass-shooters-2019-were-black-only-29-were-daniel-greenfield

    This is the second article, I’ve read, that points out that gang violence isn’t reported on as mass killings but they are counted in statistics for mass killings. Isn’t that convenient.

  32. Dayton Shooter Was In a “Pornogrind” Band That Released Songs About Raping and Killing Women. How is this even a thing? And people have the nerve to blame the President or blame guns? This is a cultural problem plain and simple. In the quote below, this Walton guy is calling Betts sick? I assume he has no idea how sick he is himself. Putting a ‘bad name’ on our scene? Unbelievable.

    “It’s just the music we love, you know, like, it’s fun to play. It’s energetic and there’s nothing else like it. So we play it,” Walton, 29, said. “And then we get people like this, who, you know, are fucking sick in the head, who get into our scene and ended up killing nine people and almost, you know, putting a bad name on our scene. And that’s not fair for the rest of us.”

    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-in-a-pornogrind-band-that-released-songs-about-raping-and-killing-women

  33. Meanwhile……on a lonely island in the Persian Gulf…..in the dead hours of night….suspicious activity has been reported although there is no confirmation…..it seems that the individuals that discovered the activity have disappeared…..but some word did get out about raptors…….

  34. T minus 11 days.

  35. Canine Weapon says:
  36. Don’t you find it amazing that the El Paso shooter and his manifest is still on the internet and the subject of news media…..right wing this….right wing that…..but the portion of his manifest that lists his loove for Bernie Sanders……is all of a sudden missing….

    And there is the ohio shooter…hard left wing in his writings and attitudes towards the police. Ardent supporter of Elizabeth Warren….his tweets and postings have been taken down and very little said on the media.

    Interesting…very interesting.

  37. Canine Weapon says:

    Hollywood has been lying to you!

    Turn your sound on.

  38. Dale A Albrecht says:

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900082474/hot-car-child-deaths-summer-2019-juan-rodriguez.html

    Forget your 1 year old twins in a car for 8 hours. Bullshit. Even though there are on average 38 deaths of children per year a low number considering how many child deaths occur for other reasons in a year. But activists are all up in arms wanting safety sensors put in every car to prevent these deaths.

    What blew me away is the % of no prosecutions. Whatever reason, oh I forgot, I was tired I was stressed, they’ve suffered enough blahs blah blah

    Prosecute spectacularly and parents and guardians will NEVER use the excuse again and the number of deaths will drop to nil.

    • Read this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/fatal-distraction-forgetting-a-child-in-thebackseat-of-a-car-is-a-horrifying-mistake-is-it-a-crime/2014/06/16/8ae0fe3a-f580-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html?noredirect=on

      Let me know your thoughts.

      Some people, no doubt, are guilty of negligence. They make a willful choice or don’t care.

      Some people, no doubt, are just straight murderers, looking to hide behind a plausible lie.

      But I’d wager most people, the lion’s share, are just poor SOB’s who had a lapse in memory, who forgot their child was in the car, often following a disruption to their routine, and didn’t come back to discover the mistake until too late.

      Remember, just the other day, my routine was disrupted as I left my house. I wound up leaving my laptop on the roof of my car and driving off. Remember that? Given just the wrong situation and some terrible luck, this could very easily have been my story. People here looked at that with complete understanding and sympathy, remember? Because it’s not like I didn’t care. It’s not like I meant to do it. Something broke my routine, a circuit misfired, and I just didn’t realize until too late. I wasn’t evil. You all understood that.

      I love my girls to the moon. They are my life. I would kill for them. But, very easily, I would have forgotten them in a hot car and caused their deaths. It’s not a crime. It’s a tragedy. These parents do not deserve prosecution, they deserve our deepest heartfelt sympathy not just for the loss of their children, but for the fact that they will spend the rest of their lives blaming themselves.

      • Can’t read the article but I agree with your assessment. I’ve never forgotten my child, thank God, but I forgot my dog once. Luckily my mother found him, alive but really hot. I’ve never felt so worthless as I did that day. But believe me, it can happen.

        • Poor pooch… glad he’s ok!

          I think this boils down to a deceptively simple-sounding question: What is the purpose of sending someone to jail?

          • I was very glad too. Now the inside of my mom’s car was not okay. Not sure how she managed not to kill me!

            As far as your question, you already answered that. Unless you have some reason to believe it was intentional, the punishment is a done deal and unending. In some ways going to jail might make one feel better about their, in their mind, unforgivable mistake.

    • Prosecute spectacularly and parents and guardians will NEVER use the excuse again and the number of deaths will drop to nil.

      Dale, this is just wrong…

      From my article: “It’s not as though the fear of a prison sentence is what will keep a parent from doing this.”

      It’s not like these parents are only choosing to murder their kids because they think they can get away with it.

      I won’t deny that some almost certainly are.

      But for most parents who this happens to, increasing the penalties is completely moot. (A) Because it’s not even on their minds to consider and (B) because the “penalty” for losing a child (especially due to your own forgetfulness) is already catastrophically high.

      Everyone thinks “it couldn’t happen to me. I would never forget something my child.” But it does.

      I left my computer on the roof. V left her dog. It’s not about choice, it’s about memory. Neither V nor I chose to forget. We just didn’t remember. And it’s not like we would have remembered any better if there were a criminal penalty after the fact.

      Per my article: “What kind of person forgets a baby? The wealthy do, it turns out. And the poor, and the middle class. Parents of all ages and ethnicities do it. Mothers are just as likely to do it as fathers. It happens to the chronically absent-minded and to the fanatically organized, to the college-educated and to the marginally literate. In the last 10 years [as of 2009], it has happened to a dentist. A postal clerk. A social worker. A police officer. An accountant. A soldier. A paralegal. An electrician. A Protestant clergyman. A rabbinical student. A nurse. A construction worker. An assistant principal. It happened to a mental health counselor, a college professor and a pizza chef. It happened to a pediatrician. It happened to a rocket scientist.”

      It’s just shit luck combined with terrible timing. These parents want their children to live. All but a vanishingly small minority of crazy people want their children to live.

      Losing a child has to be one of the worst experiences imaginable. You think “oh, but if we just make it even worse, then they wouldn’t do it”!?

      I really can’t see the sense in that.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Sorry I disagree. Comparing forgetting your laptop to forgetting your kid. Peoples memories will get real sharp quickly.
        Even leaving your dog or pet in a car. Take the pet home no matter how inconvenient. Then run errands. Take the child in.

        Forgetting something as important as a child or pet in a place they could die from exposure is bullshit excuse.

        • So all these people? Just a bunch of murderers? They didn’t love their kids enough?

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            Yes. Not nessecarily 1st degree homicide which is planned and premeditated. Though some are.

            But negligent homicide fits the bill nicely.

            Somehow Mathias you’re being argumentative in a subject you could not conceive of doing with your young daughters you go to great lengths to secure their safety and well being.

            Besides forgetting your laptop was a freudian slip and subconscious action of how much you really would like to do something else.

            • Somehow Mathias you’re being argumentative in a subject you could not conceive of doing with your young daughters you go to great lengths to secure their safety and well being.

              That’s just the problem.

              I VERY plausibly could conceive of this being me.

              My wife has something she needs to take care of… she asks me to drop the baby off at the daycare we sometime use… the car seat is behind the driver’s seat.. it’s facing backward so I can’t see her… I get a call from the boss.. he’s in a panic.. I take the call and begin talking him down and working through the high level problem as I drive off… the baby falls asleep, not making a sound.. he’s screaming at me “when are you going to be here! I need this ASAP!”.. I book it to work, thinking about the emergency… park in the lot.. head up and dig into the problem… the wife usually drops the kid off.. nothing triggers me to think about her, I just feel like she’s safe and taken care of… she’s fine.. I’ve got lots to do.. this emergency is taking up all my mental bandwidth… the wife doesn’t sweat it because she thinks the kid’s safe at daycare… until it’s pickup time and she heads over.. “what do you mean you don’t have her?!”.. and all this time she’s been in strapped into the car in the baking sun.. yea.. that could have been me.

              Just a question of the stars aligning the wrong way… a confluence of shitty luck…

              And I’ll be damned if anyone is going to tell me I don’t love my kids enough.

              • I’m going to agree with Mathius and VH on this one…I think in a VERY small percentage of these cases the parents should be prosecuted, but most of the time, no. Just no…and I think even if a parent was suspected of intentional neglect, how does a prosecutor build a case? I’m asking an honest question, not trying to rationalize letting a criminal off. He or she would have to have been known by others to want the child out of his or her life or seen to be uncaring and negligent in the past. How many would choose to let their child die a slow and agonizing death in a hot car and be able to follow through on it? Anyone that cold and heartless would be the very definition of one deserving the death penalty…my opinion of course.

                Murf

              • Criminal negligence, though…I can see prosecuting some POS parent who regularly neglects by being drunk, or high, etc., and forgets their child while in a drunken stupor. No actual intent to harm, just too stupid/selfish/immature to make the child’s well being a priority.

                Murf

  39. Dale A Albrecht says:
  40. Cesar Sayoc, the man who mailed pipes filled with explosives to prominent Democrats and critics of U.S. President Donald Trump was sentenced to 20 years in prison yesterday.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      That means he will be getting out about the time the last Trump finishes what will be called the 24 years of Trump dynasty in the White House.

  41. https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2019/08/the-nihilist-in-chief/

    I’ve read a lot of ridiculous accusations this week from Trumps a racist white nationalist terrorist to Trumps racism is the cause of all violence in America to Trump must cancel all his rallies because there breeding grounds for rascism, etc etc but the above article may take the cake.

    I’m normally not much for telling people to shut up, but seriously shut up. Your extremism is what people are seeing, not Trumps.

  42. Dale A Albrecht says:

    For those of you all planning on traveling to the Philippines DON’T the government there has declared a national epidemic of Dengue fever resulting un 622 deaths so far.

  43. Dale A Albrecht says:

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/trous-bridge-demolished-0012396

    All the articles dead the bridge is being dismantled for future reconstruction. Dismantling for reconstruction us what they did with Abu Sibal in Egypt to save it from the advancing waters of Lake Nassar.

    This bridge has survived since the 13th century. Videos taken are not a dismantling but a demolishing with no attempt to number anything. The crane and equipment just knocking it into the canal. The locals objected fir years but Brussels and France pretty much said FU. Further up they’re connecting to the Seine.

    Like here in Havelock. The State and Federal government put a permanent divider down the center of the highway through the city. It was 5 lanes with the center the turn lane. Easy access to any business on either side and also ability to u-turn a boat on a trailer. The city strenuously objected but the transportation depts both state and federal said to many accidents. I’ve driven the road 24 years and never saw one. But refused to actually produce the data. The city did an analysis and said the divided highway will reduce business by at least 45%. It did and the street had been decimated. But both the state and fed’s said suck it up and live with it, besides as soon as we change Rte 70 to I-42 we’re bypassing your city anyway. The bypass is under construction

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  47. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Way to go Jim Brown 👍👏

  48. Dale A Albrecht says:

    World Habib Day. Encouraging women if all ages to wear a Habib for a day to show solidarity and promote religious tolerance.

    What a crock. Try NOT wearing in Iran, or Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, and again in Afghanistan.

    I wonder how large the Muslims explosion would be if the west asked them to wear Crosses or Stars of David or Hindu symbols educate about religious tolerance. There’d be blood in the streets.

    The government’s have already capitulated on not going out in public fully masked with burkas.

    I asked my bank uf they’d allow a masked person in a burka in through the doors. Not a chance. Sunglasses, hoodies must be removed.

    • Most places here….do not allow hoodies or burkas….they post things on the doors just like places post signs that do not allow weapons. Even a driver’s license cannot have a picture like that woman inWashington….no cowboy hats, baseball caps, no hoodies, nothing that covers the head….including Burka’s or a portion thereof.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Just commenting on the pressures coming. World Habib day. EU countries have capitulated to the Burka when the laws prohibit full covering of the head and face in public. Just like in Europe and here Antifa get away with it

  49. So the NY Times changes it’s headline to placate the likes of AOC and Spartacus. MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace walks back comments about President Trump wanting to “exterminate” Latinos. Wallace claims – “I misspoke about Trump calling for an extermination of Latinos. My mistake was unintentional and I’m sorry,” BS! She did not misspeak, she knew EXACTLY what she was saying and it was damned well intentional! Why are the media not held accountable for the lies and propaganda that they push?

    To quote Mathius, “The left are a bunch of lying liars who lie a lot”. Isn’t that the truth!

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-nicolle-wallace-trump-extermination-latinos

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-changes-headline-trump-shooting-democrats

  50. Colonel, To respond to your post above about background checks. You bought lots of fire power and haven’t killed a single person with them. You, like 99.9% of gun buyers who go to the store and go through the process are not going to kill anyone. One thing that I can go with is a mental health red flag that would not expose the actual health issue, but disallow a gun purchase. This would have to be accomplished by a health professional. A reversal would take 3 health professionals agreeing. Although I can go along with this idea, I doubt it would work to stop anyone who is hellbent on killing people from doing so, but it’s something.

    Red Flag laws? I’m up in the air on this issue too. Too many ways to abuse them.

    My answer is for more people to get themselves some training and practice, get a license (which I don’t agree with having to have) and carry a sidearm. The vast majority of law abiding citizens are responsible adults and this would be a much bigger deterrent than any laws.

    • I heard a conservative talk show host suggest that he would only be ok with a “red flag” law that also included a severe penalty, like mandatory hard time for at least 10-15 years, for anyone making a false red flag charge…make it so severe that abusing the law would just not be worth it. Thoughts, anyone? I don’t have the legal savvy to know if this idea is plausible…

      Murf

  51. T minus 10 days.

  52. U.S.—Democratic leaders across the country have called on Trump to take responsibility for his part in the sinking of the Titanic, which occurred in April of 1912.

    “Until Trump admits that his hateful rhetoric led to this horrible tragedy, we will not be able to heal as a nation,” said Rep. Adam Schiff of California. “We must get to the root causes of nautical disasters like this one, and we all know what the main root cause is: Donald J. Trump.”
    Leaders on the left pointed out that Trump and the right have typically been skeptical of climate change, which may have caused the iceberg that hit the Titanic to break off a glacier, dooming the vessel. They also suggested that Trump’s hate and hubris reached back in time and inspired the builders of the Titanic to create such a faulty design with not enough lifeboats.
    “In the age of Trump, even our early 20th century shipbuilders aren’t immune to his brand of arrogance and hate,” said Beto O’Rourke.
    Dems also called on Trump to admit he had a hand in the creation of New Coke, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the hateful fearmongering that led to the rise of Jack the Ripper.
    “Basically, all murders, all hate, all injustices since the dawn of time can be laid at Trump’s feet,” said Cory Booker, who is a senator in our timeline. “I am Spartacus!” He then added that Trump was also responsible for the murder of Spartacus.

  53. Trump’s rhetoric is not the problem when it comes to rhetoric. The loudest complainers are also the biggest hypocrits:
    https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/msnbcs-mika-brzezinski-trump-seems-want-mass-shootings-occur/

    • Call what off, they say that, like it’s self explanatory. It’s not.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Trump will never come close to Mika’s father, National Security Advisor to Carter and advisor to every president until his death. His visceral hatred of all things Russian had no boundaries. His advice led to the killing of millions of innocent people, and he never felt any regret or remorse but proclaimed how proud he was of his work.

  54. Steve Hooper is a 30 year veteran of the FBI. Hooper said the El Paso shooter, during interviews, says he was triggered after watching the DNC debate where all the candidates raised their hands to provide “health insurance” to illegal immigrants.
    It was the insanity at the Democrat Presidential debates that triggered the shooter, not Trump’s language.

    From a radio interview

  55. Claims of racism aside, and without knowing any details of this particular situation.. all I’m saying is that maaayybbbeeee this isn’t the best optics..

  56. Meanwhile…on the Island of Greater Tunb….an innocuous flag appears. BUt no movement is seen….but the Iranian occupiers have……left. They just left without excuse and the Island is now firmly in the hands of Mathiusland. There is no resistance and there is no movement to be seen.

  57. Canine Weapon says:

    Moderation!

  58. Dale A Albrecht says:

    “We will never create enough laws to control EVIL- EVIL does not follow laws.”

  59. https://thehornnews.com/msnbc-star-has-shocking-trump-meltdown-live-on-air/

    Someone explain how Trump is pushing for hatred and violence? These Lefty’s are mentally ill and should be hospitalized.

  60. Later…….deep in the bowels of CCC (command Control Center) the thinking is…what is the use of having Greater Tunb without the nearby Leser Tunb…..

    • The voice of President Mathius echos in your mind.. “the goal should not be to escalate… remember, your job is not to invade foreign territory, but to defend American territory…”

      Mathius also wonders if you are adhering to the instruction to be inscrutably fair.. you acquired an entire island for the value of $1.5mm? Or was it merely a beach head?

  61. You know………….when you see something in front of you that is so unbelievable that you have to reach ouch and touch it to see if it is real? ………………I do that when I talk to stupid people.

    • Canine Weapon says:

      “The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
      – Charles Bukowski

  62. What do y’all make of the narrative being pushed by right-leaning media blaming video games for the shootings?

    Thoughts?

    • Yes, same approach as the leftward media…..just a different subject. Video games are a non started for my thinking.

      • It’s just that I’ve seen a great deal on this blog over the last few days re the dishonesty of the left and the left-leaning media on guns and the shooting.. but bupkis on the right’s sudden fixation with blaming video games.

        I guess I’m just wondering two things:
        A) why is the right pushing this obviously BS narrative?
        B) why is no one on SUFA talking about it, even while aggressively criticising the left’s response?

        • Early reports from the Dayton dhooting was that the shooter wanted to be super soldier like in one of the war video games , can’t remember name of it, but it’s popular and has numerous volumes. That came from the police in Dayton over the weekend.

          I, however, wouldnt put it past someone who is mentally ill to attempt a live version of a game like that.

          Other than that, the only blame is on the shooters, nobody and nothing else.

          • Early reports from the Dayton dhooting was that the shooter wanted to be super soldier like in one of the war video games

            Can you support that?

            More importantly, can you support the assertions of those “early reports” or were they just wild assertions?

            • I would have to find the press briefing, I’m sure you could search and find the one with the male cop doing the talking. It was in response to a question i believe. I saw it, but this is the first I’ve read about any discussion on it.

        • Or, the lack of response. I have become so disheartened with the media and actually the right and left….to be honest. Everybody is attacking from both sides……I am tired of the snow flakes and the thin skinned populace….Everyone is so dead set on bringing down Trump, they are not looking at the country…it is all politics and power.

          The right is not going to sit by and let the left take the spotlight…..Trump no more is a racist nor has anything he said inspired anyone to go out and kill…………….

          No more than Bernie Sanders supporter killed in El PAso and no more than Elizabeth Warren supporter killed in Ohio…..so the left media leaves that alone…and the right media wants an excuse……BOTH are wrong and the media in this country cannot and should not be trusted under any circumstance.

          So…that said….neither side deserves recognition…..none.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            All bought and paid for by their advertisers. They long ago demolished their foundations of at least getting at the truth, but caved to the pursuit of the all mighty dollar. There are individuals that will stand on their convictions but are as rare as hens teeth.

            Alexis de Tocqueville observed this in 1835. Censorship was not government driven but commercially driven

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Mathius

          On your first question, I think many people believe there to be a correlation because of the intuitive and observed responses we say in children when these games came along. And of course some media spreading “experts” claiming a connection. Studies to the contrary are hard pressed to replace what has become an “urban legend”.

          As for number two I don’t know what you are looking for. The MEDIA is no longer credible. NONE of them. You have to search out alternative media and then check them against facts to validate. Takes time and energy.

          Then I see some who were credible start seeing the Star status and money potential, next thing you know they are talking heads on one of the regular media outlets.

          • As for number two I don’t know what you are looking for. The MEDIA is no longer credible.

            What I’m looking for is your explanation of why I see lots of posts here talking about how wrong and stupid and biased the left and the left-leaning media have been on this topic (fair!). But until I brought it up, no one had mentioned the outright bullshit spewing from the right-leaning media.

            Fox and the Republican party are – very deliberately – trying to steer the conversation away from guns. They want us to talk about and blame mental health (fair!) and video games (bullshit) because if we do, then we’re not having a conversation that their benefactors (the gun lobby / NRA) and their base (gun-totting yokels) don’t want us to have. I know this. You know this. Even Gman knows this.

            The people driving the train aren’t stupid. The ones pulling the strings on the left want people to blame scary guns so they can advance a gun-control policy and also maybe win some seats away from Red Team. The ones pulling the strings on the right may be correct about guns not being the real danger, but they feel it’s a losing conversation (and they may be right) so they try to distract us with bullshit about video games, because they’re rather we talked about that instead. I know this. You know this.

            But, more generally, the question is this: what gives? Why are people only calling out lies and bullshit from the left? Aren’t we all supposed to be after “the truth” and “fairness”?

            It sure feels to me like when “my side” does something wrong, SUFA jumps all over it. But when “your side” does something wrong, it’s met with indifferent silence, maybe a groan, and a shrug.

          • Dale A Albrecht says:

            When William L Shirer was writing about the rise and fall of the third Reich and also a small book called a mid century’s journey. He write about the press in France. They had totally sold out to Goebbels “paid” news./propaganda. The French were defeated before the war ever started.

  63. A question for those who are strong supporters of Trump:

    What could Trump do which would cost him your support / vote in 2020?

    (note: If you say something like “not build the wall,” that wouldn’t count if you’re going to write off a failure because “he tried, but Democrats stopped him.”)

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Mathius

      Tough question. Being as I am in a safe Red State I can not vote for the guy and won’t feel bad with any outcome. My vote will not make any real difference. But as things stand today I will make sure to vote FOR Mr. Trump just to spite the Democratic Party and MSM.

      Now to your question, it would take Mr. Trump ACTUALLY doing just one or two of the awful things he has been accused of doing by the Dems. Same general policy ideas with a more Presidential persona would get my vote for sure.

    • I am a strong supporter of Donal Trump because I am not a socialist nor am I a believer in the greater good theory. I am a strong supporter of Donald Trump not because he is a good President…he just happens to be the best right now….and, I believe, a much greater American than what is up against him. I do not care what his financial worth is…and neither should you or anyone else.

      You once said that you would vote for the Devil himself if he supported your policies. Well, sir, I happen to believe that Mr Trump is more American and more patriotic than any of the Democratic front runners….by far…..yes, he is crass, and a braggart, and a blow hard. Yes, he lies, like every single politician out there. He is no greater or no worse a liar……but he has this country at heart. That is MY belief.

      And, what is more important….he is not what was expected. He is outspoken and he will call a spade a spade. He is the only President, in my life time, that stood up to the Chinese and are calling them out, stood up to the countries of NATO and has called them out, has sttod up to the UN and has threatened to pull out, which we should do. He has pulled out of the Global Warming scheme, which we should have never been a part of, and he pulled out of the Nuke treaty, which the Russians have been in violation for 15 years. He pulled out of the Iranian treaty, which was a sham…….All of these things, IN MY OPINION, are what I support.

      Now, what does he have to do to lose my support……..well, sir, he has authored a spending bill that I do not like and if someone more conservative were running against him, I most likely would not support Trump. I know, and I think everyone else knows, that this Russian thing is a witch hunt but I am not judging yet…until I see what Barr uncovers. If there is criminal activity…..and I mean criminal…then it would be hard for me to support him…but, as much as I think that the Democrat candidates are far worse…..it is going to take something major…but I would not support criminal activity…..proven criminal activity.

      • Most elections are a choice between bad and worse. Trump is everything the Col. said. In my lifetime, I would say Trump is the second best president I have seen right behind Reagan. He would be first except for the name calling, tweets, and lying.

        At the current time, no one running on the Democrat ticket qualifies in my book. They are all lying. Furthermore, they are not liberals, they are leftist/socialists. They care not for the people in this country only about power. The most honest one I have seen is Tulsi but she is too far left to be viable. So unless the Dems can find a candidate that speaks the truth and offers common sense plans for the economy, immigration and foreign relations, Trump will remain my top choice.

        If he does something truly stupid like getting us into another ME war, then I might reconsider but I would need a real choice for a candidate not any of the leftist currently running.

        Like JAC, how I vote is irrelevant due to the blue nature of CA.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Start shipping jobs to China, Increasing federal student loans, outlawing semi-automatics, calling for a general amnesty for all illegals, going to war with anybody, agreeing with any editorial in the Washington Post or New York Times.

  64. Just A Citizen says:

    Doesn”t this strike a deeper chord? Namely the tribalization of social media and the internet. Confirmation bias may be the actual deadliest sin.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/08/could_the_incel_community_be_propelling_mass_shooters.html

    • “The Hunt,” slated for a Sept. 27 release, pits liberal elites vs. MAGA types, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

      Well then you really ought to watch Tucker and Dale Vs Evil which is absolutely hilarious AND fits the same synopsis.

      “Affable hillbillies Tucker and Dale are on vacation at their dilapidated mountain cabin when they are mistaken for murderers by a group of preppy college students.”

      I went into this movie with low expectations, thinking it wasn’t my style (it’s not) and it was going to be immature (it was, but not in a bad way) and stupid (it was, but in a good way) and that it was a horror movie (it’s not). But, boy… it’s worth the watch.

      • Good you told me because from the write up, I wouldn’t of even considered going to see it.

        • I wouldn’t have either. In fact, I stubbornly refused to watch it despite several people telling me it was great until just a few weeks ago when I stumbled across it on Netflix.

          I won’t go so far myself as to call it “great,” but I thoroughly enjoyed it as a “popcorn movie.”

  65. A car backfired in Times Square, causing a stampede of people thinking it’s a shooter. The terrorists have won.

    • That’s nothing……….you should see the episodes that I put on sometimes….the worse being in a restaurant when a waiter dropped a tray of dishes……I was under the table, weapon drawn……………many a backfire has had me dropping down……a door slamming…..in short, any quick sudden noise is not good.

      I select seats where I can see all exits or I do not eat there or go into there. I do not go to movies…primarily because I hate cell phones lighting up and I cannot really hear that well….

      Its tough sometimes.

      • Equine Weapon says:

        Yea.. I get spooked sometimes, too..

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Where I frequent in town I exhibit the same seating behavior as the Colonel as do most of the ex and current military personnel. The ideal place fitting our criteria fills up fast.

        But there are enough off duty officers in these places, carrying is not required by us common folk. People who sit out on the sidewalk tables more often than not open carry.

        Even after 40 years away from Sicily i still follow the process. A really serious take out in Catania where you could get complete meals really good sicilian from apps to deserts and walls of fine wines to go with the meal. The mafia tried horning in. The owner resisted and the mafia blew up the building. Taking out dozens of cars also on the street. .the hotel I stayed at in Naxos got blown up because the owner refused. A few months before came around the corner to get to the inn and you were looking at the barrel of a tank. That hole looked awful big pointed at your wind shield. A favorite outdoor trattoria in Taromina was victim of a machine gun attack by terrorists. The mafia targeted the business or the owner. Terrorist target the innocents. A serious mass shooting occurred at leonardo de Vinci airport by Palestine supporters. The two stood back to back and emptied clip after clip into the people waiting to board. Until they were killed. A balcony was built above area and military were posted about ever 20 or so feet with their matching guns covering the area. Airliners shot down a few miles from Catania. Two migs from Libya attempted to beat the radar and possibly attack Fontanarossa or Sigonella. Never got the chance. Marines killed breaking the rules by climbing the perimeter fence instead of using the proper gates. Friendly fire. It was serious business. This was just in two years

        Am I cautious YES

        And yes Europe profiles seriously. Any doubt ad you will not board

  66. For the record, I stated on here years ago that video games and the dehumanization and isolation associated with them could be a major issue. I have also called out mental health and the use of SSRIs in teenagers. Do not discount their negative influences on a very small fraction of our society.

    My generation grew up on Bugs Bunny and the Road Runner. These shows were violent and were later condemned as such. But the characters were talking animals something even little kids knows is fiction. They were replaced by moralizing human-like but violent cartoon characters which blurred the distinction between reality and fiction. Things were still OK because they were cartoons. Many of the video games however use very realistic human-like characters and much more violent situations with real looking and very powerful weapons plus active not passive participation by the game player. These games don’t just happen for 30 minutes but can be played for hours, thus isolating the child. They also target older children in their teen years. By that age we grew out of the fantasy world.

    In addition look at the hopelessness taught in our school. The earth is doomed due to global warming and pollution. We are a sinner nation based on white supremacy and genocide. Our economic system discriminates against the poor who have no chance to succeed.

    Look for things that have changed in the last 70 years.

    Now consider the statistics. The number of active mass shooters is less than 1 in a million.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Consider our generation was the freest ever. Yet the paranoia set in and that free generation locked up their kids.

      CNN and the 24 hour news cycle had to be filled. So events that have zero bearing in our lives because something like a child was kidnapped 4000 miles away and amber alerts go out nation wide on every highway sign.

      Plus the women lib movement. Denigrating being a parent. You’re wasted by not fulfilling your inner self. There were always families that needed all the income they could generate. The kids usually participated to that end. But once two incomes across the board arrived the houses got out if hand, cars fancier and before we knew it prices filled income.

      I fir one always lived in houses or apartments that I alone could afford. So if the wife or GF left my life continued with little disruption.

      What came first the Chicken or the egg?

  67. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I think the T-minus dste is noting an official hard blocked out date, with every calendar he could find, his own, kids, wall, iPhone, wife’s double secret calendars ,laptops, bosses calendar. Do Not Disturb I’m enjoying a weekend with my kids in the great outdoors.

    • Oooh, I like it!

      But no.

      My next blocked out calendar date for camping is in October to coincide with the Orionid meteor shower.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Picking up new dog? Or maybe new kid!

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Good choice. But still search every calendar as a precaution. Fall is beautiful. Campfires nicer. Less risk of ticks

  68. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Anybody want to wager that after the Feds dust off death penalty and execute the “White Supremist” the next one will be Major Hasan for his murdering the unarmed soldiers at Ft Hood.in the cafeteria.

  69. Dale A Albrecht says:

    . But in recent years, the big upturn in the US has been in prescribing for depression and anxiety. It is now generally accepted, says David Healy, professor of psychiatry at Bangor University, that 20%-25% of students at most universities in the US are on medication, often on multiple prescriptions. There, he says, taking your meds is often seen as proof that a young person is dealing with their problems. “But you are not going to learn coping skills if you are taking pills,

    I’ll put up the whole article. FYI Bangor University in in the UK no maine

  70. Dale A Albrecht says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/nov/21/children-who-grow-up-on-prescription-drugs-us

    I equate this like laws since the 70’s we can fix any problem or perceived problem with another law. Like a semi conductor. If it switches negative when it should go positive its broken. Humans can react in 6 billion different way to a stimulus. Each human s different based in genetics, life experience you name it. These drugs are designed to level the behavior.

    I’d see more and more kids are bored out of their minds in public schools. The education s so packaged and the teachers can not vary. Put it all on a computer and dispense with the expense of teachers entirely (sarc) all geared to program the desired results Somebody else seems us correct. As good as my school was I was bored out of my mind in many classes. Looking out the window not paying attention, yet I’d get an A. I knew the material from independent sources.

    My parents were extremely adverse to medications. I see contemporaries of theirs visit and have a dozen meds lined up to take daily. Coincidence their kids had drug issues. Kicked them but had serious problems in their early lifes. God the number of mothers of my school friends popping valium the drug of choice back then. Was their lives so bad? Several suicides among them.

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