Obvious Desperation

th99BQI580The Crats are screwed and they are desperate.  The impeachment stunt isn’t going anywhere and the pundit’s who are trying so desperately to make the case are failing. This will not play well with Independents.  2020 is going to be a blowout.

Biden is on defense and is likely finished.  Hiden Quid Pro Joe is even having a really hard time with his lapdog media.  Bye Joe, your a likable guy but go home, retire and enjoy the Golden Years.

Liz Warren’s pregnant teacher story is destroyed…by her own words.  She has zero credibility.  She might win the nomination, but Trump will use her for a mop.

Hunting season is here.  That means that I may not be able to get those of you who are jailed out right away.  Be patient, I’ll be checking in around lunchtime each day.

 

Comments

  1. Happy October! 😎

  2. V.H. commented on Falling Apart.

    Trump is attacked, sued, and impeachment has been mentioned over emoluments. On businesses that he has owned for years before he became President. These businesses weren’t created to take advantage of his position as President. Then we have Biden, who’s son is making lots of money solely because of his father’s position and contacts. Biden’s situation is really clear and in your face but I wonder how many family members of our politicians on both sides of the aisle have become rich in the same way. So why should I take these attacks against Trump seriously, just because he chose to let his family run his already established businesses? So emoluments vs. becoming rich by politician, opinions.

    V, it’s all a crock of poo poo. The Crats are STILL butthurt over losing to Trump. The good news is that they are destroying themselves because their desperation is so blatant. There will not be an impeachment trial without a legitimate vote in the House that allows the Republicans subpoena power. WE all know they hate freedom of speech and religion, hate the 2nd Amendment and it seems due process can be added to their growing list of Communist ideologies.

  3. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/watch-pete-hegseth-goes-off-after-news-of-another-deep-state-anti-trump-whistleblower-is-announced-video/

    Surprise, surprise, they have people in the wings waiting to come on stage. Wonder how they chose the cast. I’ve seen this Play before.

  4. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    So we have four dead last night in KC from “gun” violence in another “mass” shooting and four dead the night before in NYC from “Iron pipe” violence.

    • Get ready for the “where there is smoke, there is fire” speech…….My 12th cousin from my grandfather’s side heard it, while in the bathroom, from 2 unknown people standing at the wash basin who heard it from their 9th cousin who heard it from the janitor who was cleaning ash trays after the fact. Therefore, it must be admitted.

      • Uh oh…..this should have been in the VH area…….as for as the guns and iron pipe……you MUST ban guns and you MUST ban iron or lead pipes and you MUST ban the automobile. Ban everything……ban it all.

  5. Canine Weapon says:

    For a lighthearted change of pace, I present you with the following timeline:

    2005: The Band Nickleback releases a song entitled Photograph. Prominent lyrics include “Look at this photograph. Every time I do, it makes me laugh.”

    2006: Twitter is created.

    [13 years pass]

    2019: Trump posts a picture on twitter with the caption “Look at this photograph.”

    [minutes pass]

    2019: Protections under the DMCA kick in and take delete the President’s tweet from the internet for violating Nickleback’s intellectual property by posting their lyrics without permission.

    https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/screen-shot-2019-10-04-at-4.38.37-pm-e1570232376226.png?w=300&h=251

    • I am sorry Canine…..objection…..your master does not believe in intellectual property. If I recall correctly, from a conversation long ago in a galaxy far away, a certain alien named, Black Flag, and your MASTER…..(heh heh) were in agreement that there was no such thing as intellectual property.

      So, if there is no intellectual property how can there be a claim of such? I know you are ajust a dog but you are a smart dog.

      • The mangey mutt is arguing that Twitter is censoring over BS because they are protecting the Left (namely Biden). But if you ask anyone on the left if censorship on Social Media is happening to the Right, they will say no, because it’s hate speech.

  6. Interesting interview on the news this morning, comparing government run health care to private health care. There was a serious comparison with a spokesman from Canada and one from the United States. It appears that the truth is not being told (imagine that) about the Canadian healthcare program that supposedly everyone likes. Turns out it is great for those whom do not get sick. The comment from the Canadian said that health care for all must be rationed and it must be for the greater of the population (greater good theory). Specialized medicines and treatment for a minority of the population will not be in great supply. One of the examples brought forward was the illness of Cystic Fibrosis. Under Canadian government health care, there is simply not enough and sometimes NO medicine for illness’ such as this because of the cost of the medicines. It is too expensive and, therefore, not readily available in Canada. According to the Canadian representative, certain medicines simply are not cost effective because the majority of the population does not have that particular malady. Likewise, the Canadian benefactor went on to say, “the same thing applies to the elderly. Under managed health care, cost is the deciding factor and because most needs of the elderly go beyond the norm, a lot of the medicines are not available or are in extremely short supply and there is a wait list based upon the severity of the illness. Simple things like hip and knee replacements, a common malady among the elderly, are put on waiting lists with some waits extending into 24 months and prioritized on need.

    There were some interesting stats put out as well…….for example, Detroit, Michigan hospitals are beseiged by the Canadian wealthy because they are easy to reach. Canadians are coming to the United States for specialized medicine because of no availability in the beloved Canadian system. A simple hernia operation, for another example, takes up to one year to get repaired in Canada but one week to get repaired in the United States. (Something that I can give testimony to….an umbilical hernia diagnosed and repaired within 6 days, start to finish, as out patient surgery).

    Another glaring example using Bernie Sanders…..because of his age, the Canadian system would not have been able to save his life. There are priority lists and NO AVAILABLE heart surgeons because all of the heart surgeons come to the United States to work. In the United States, he was seen and operated on 48 hours. ( Another fact that I can testify to….I was seen and operated on in one day with my stent. I had the exact same facts that Sanders had. Blocked arteries). The Canadian person said that it would have been 50/50 because of the “lack of space” in most Canadian hospitals.

    ——————————-

    Don’t know about you……..but this type of health care is not for me. Greater good my ass….making a decision based on age….is that not like a…..a…..a……death panel?

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Thou sayist it!

      The craziest of it is the fraud engendered by the system(s) themselves. Couple years back, I had a wart pop up on the top of my small toe. Got to the point where wearing shoes was uncomfortable to say the least. Went to my 94 year old GP. He took it off in ten minutes and told me to come back in two weeks where he took out a new growth that was starting. Fine since. His back-up miscoded the diagnosis and it was rejected by Medicare so I got a $ 440 bill. After it was re-coded and submitted, it was settled for $ 40.00 by Medicare.

      In a SANE world, I would have paid him a hundred bucks. He would have been happy and I would have been happy. The system requires you to s-t-r-e-t-c-h the truth to get anything!

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Many years ago my Father worked with the Canadian government to create the computer applications for their universal healthcare system.. I distinctly remember Dad saying that he asked the Canadian official defining the criteria, “How do you think the Canaduan people will react to this type of medical system”? The officials answer was “Just fine, our people ACCEPT medioceacy”

  7. Colonel, maybe you can explain, confirm/deny or just add some input on the following (likely a conspiracy theory, but…)

    BREAKING NEWS UPDATE concerning a directive involving the United States Marine Corps reserve units via MARADMINS number 550/19, signed on Oct. 3, 2019, authorized by Brigadier General Daniel L. Shipley, Director, Manpower Plans and Policy.
    Notably, Brigadier General Daniel L. Shipley was nominated by President Trump for the rank of major general, according to a Jan. 16, 2019 Defense.gov press announcement. Before serving in his current role, Shipley served as the deputy director, Program Analysis and Evaluation, Department of Programs and Resources for the U.S. Marines.
    This new order is summarized as, “MARINES ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY ISO DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES.” (The term “ISO” means In Support Of.”)
    Many observers are concerned that with Democrats like Rep. Tlaib openly talking about which prisons to use for imprisoning President Trump and his cabinet, and with Hillary Clinton positioning herself to run for president, and with the IG’s FISA abuses report set to drop in a few weeks, the deep state Democrats have reached a point of desperation where they may attempt to initiate a “hot coup” (kinetic engagement, arrest or execution of the President and his Cabinet) to avoid going to prison themselves.
    The entire CIA-run deep state media (i.e. Washington Post, NYY, CNN, etc.) are all in on the effort and now gaslighting the entire nation with ginned up “whistleblower” schemes that are wholesale fabrications.

    https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/1979422/manpower-guidance-for-activation-and-deactivation-of-reserve-component-marines

    R 031419Z OCT 19
    MARADMIN 550/19
    MSGID/GENADMIN/CMC WASHINGTON DC MRA MP//
    SUBJ/MANPOWER GUIDANCE FOR ACTIVATION AND DEACTIVATION OF RESERVE COMPONENT (RC)
    MARINES ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY ISO DEFENSE SUPPORT OF CIVIL AUTHORITIES//

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      The crap she is peddling came from an old copy of “little House on the Prairie” where schoolmarms, if even allowed to be married, could not be pregnant. Warren is 70, three years younger than my wife. That meant, she started teaching supposedly around 1971-2. WHERE in the hell were pregnant teachers NOT allowed to teach in 1970, Saudi Arabia?

      First the woman insults native Americans now it’s teachers, administrators and Teachers Unions.

      • I have wondered if she were worthy of voting for. Despite the Indian flap, she probably appeals to many on the Left, policy wise. But after her well rehearsed and oft repeated teacher story, she’s probably ALSO lying to her supporters. They won’t see it, not bright enough, but it sure answered my question, she shouldn’t be in public service. (This also can be applied to most politicians, but the subject at hand get’s the boot in the ass 😀 )

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Never fired from any school I attended. Lots of young MARRUED female pregnant teachers.

  8. The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

    I know I’m an old fart, but in this crazy world, it seems they’re working hard to make everything “smart” when it doesn’t need to be.

    Case in point.

    I picture someone breaking onto my ship. I grab this. Slowly and quietly, I creep toward the area from which I heard the noise. My face is lit up from the screen glow like a millennial swiping on Tinder in a dark dorm room. I am unable to see in the dark from the light of this screen blazing directly onto my retinas. I’ve given up all the element of surprise and my ability to see, but goddamn, even in the adrenaline surge, I know how many more rounds I can fire wildly downrange into the inky darkness of my ship and out to sea, yet nowhere near the assailant in the same room as me.

    Through a streak of good luck, the criminal trips over a bucket and lands with a dull thump at my feet. I look at my glorious full-color neon screen. I have enough amunition to take care of this problem. I aim carefully, squinting passed the glare, squeeze the trigger and…. ERROR, PLEASE REBOOT THE SYSTEM. REFER TO TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE IF PROBLEMS PERSIST.

    • LOL…..you know, I somethimes think about the tracer rounds….I get the idea…..follow the tracer so everyone else can see where to shoot…………….suddenly, you realize, the tracer works both ways. They figured this out quickly in Vietnam….Red tracers vs green or blue tracers. So, the enemy suddenly switched to red tracers…..it gave pause to returning fire for fear of friendly fire……smart is not always best.

        • Every single one of them unless this was Montgnard country,,,,,,then, none of them.

          • Schrödinger’s Forest: simultaneously full of Viet Cong and devoid of Viet Cong?

            • Actually, it is quite an interesting thing…..there were two areas of Vietnam devoid of Vietcong…the Montgnard villages in the Central Highlands. If a Montgnard village was attacked and any Vietcong was captured, said Vietcong was tortured until every shred of information could be obtained up to and including the names of his family and location. Then, a visit was paid to all of the realtives that could be found….women, children, etc….

              The other area was the ROK (Koreans). When they were in combat, any Vietcong captured was systematically tortured until the locations of their families were found out. Unlike the Montgnards, the ROK would pay a visit and collect ears. They left everyone alive but without ears…..for life.

              All this to say, the Vietcong would vacate those specific areas.

          • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

            Have you considered removing the uncertainty with napalm…?

  9. From my neck of the woods. I help with my neighbors modern day cattle drives and he is making You Tube videos these days. His dog, Toby, is my puppy’s father. One of his fields borders my backyard. While I live off this road about a half mile back, this is our “main road” 🙂

    • Nice, G! I can watch that kind of stuff all day long. Beautiful neighborhood.

    • His dog, Toby, is my puppy’s father.

      Right… a fine, intelligent working dog.

      … and then there’s my idiot.

      • Breed?

        • Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier.

          This here is my second one after Old Man Otis went off to the Farm while I was in college.

          Sweetest, most loving, family dogs who ever lived. Mostly good health if you get ’em from a good breeder (prone to some skin issues and allergies plus some more serious stuff in their later years). They’ll live a solid 15-16 years when you take care of them and feed them right.

          They only have two modes: On and Off. That’s it. On-mode involves unlimited amounts of energetic play. When in On-mode, a Wheaten will never, ever, ever, run out of energy. Ever. Off-mode is asleep. There is no middle ground.

          When people enter your home, ON-mode is non-optional. A Wheaten will jump up and down like a pogo stick in what is known colloquially as the Wheaten-Greetin’. This behavior cannot be trained out of them. It cannot be stopped. It is simply a fact of nature which Wheaten owners must learn to accept. A human has arrived and your Wheaten will engage in an enthusiastic greeting whether you like it or not – and, no, your Wheaten will not care if the person is a well-known friend or a burglar in the middle of the night or a swat team breaking down your door.. humans will be met with enthusiastic greetings, period.

          They will bark at or chase anything with four legs and unconditionally love anything with two.
          They tolerate other dogs in the household, but mostly just leave them alone and do their own thing.

          At 30-ish lbs, they’re near bottom of the size requirement to be a “real dog” and not a “rodent disguised as a dog.” Non-shedding, hypo-allergenic, low maintenance, low grooming, intensely loyal, fantastically loving. Occasional room-clearing farts. Absolute garbage as a guard dog.

          Dumb as a brick.

        • Toby is a Border Collie. My pup’s mom is a cross between a Norwegian Elkhound and a Mountain Fiest.

    • Driving cattle with motorized vehicles…….just………….doesn’t………………..fit.

  10. These cities are the 50 “most miserable” according to data collected during the last census.
    50 – Lancaster, California
    49 – St. Louis, Missouri
    48 – Pasadena, Texas
    47 – Macon-Bibb County, Georgia
    46 – Danville, Virginia
    45 – Shreveport, Louisiana
    44 – Hemet, California
    43 – Mansfield, Ohio
    42 – San Bernadina, California
    41 – Compton, California
    40 – Montebello, California
    39 – Harlingen, Texas
    38 – Reading, Pennsylvania
    37 – Hallandale Beach, Florida
    36 – Palmdale, California
    35 – Anderson, Indiana
    34 – Fort Pierce, Florida
    33 – North Miami Beach, Florida
    32 – Jackson, Mississippi
    31 – Saginaw, Michigan
    30 – Plainfield, New Jersey
    29 – West New York, New Jersey
    28 – Miami Gardens, Florida
    27 – Cleveland, Ohio
    26 – Youngstown, Ohio
    25 – North Miami, Florida
    24 – Huntington, West Virginia
    23 – Hammond, Indiana
    22 – El Monte, California
    21 – Lynnwood, California
    20 – Huntsville, Texas
    19 – Paterson, New Jersey
    18 – Albany, Georgia
    17 – Trenton, New Jersey
    16 – Cicero, Illinois
    15 – Union City, New Jersey
    14 – Bell Gardens, California
    13 – Hialeah, Florida
    12 – Brownsville, Texas
    11 – New Brunswick, New Jersey
    10 – Huntington Park, California
    9 – Warren, Ohio
    8 – Camden, New Jersey
    7 – Flint, Michigan
    6 – Pine Bluff, Arkansas
    5 – Newark, New Jersey
    4 – Passaic, New Jersey
    3 – Detroit, Michigan
    2 – Port Arthur, Texas
    1 – Gary, Indiana

    https://www.activistpost.com/2019/10/these-are-the-50-most-miserable-cities-in-america.html

    • Canine Weapon says:

      1 – Gary, Indiana

    • Can agree with Port Arthur…..this area is beyond redneck. Like…waaaaay beyond redneck. Like, two letter words are a problem.

      Can agree with Brownsville….it is dirty. It is a border town.

      Can agree with Huntsville……Hunstville prison is there… There are two classes of income there……poor or incredibly rich.

      Can agree on Harlingen, Texas…..the only good time there is dove hunting season and even that is going by the way side. It is a border town. Very dirty.

      Have nothing to say about Pasadena……it is next to Houston. That, in itself, is a problem. Pasadena was one of the original “white flight” areas….a lot of NASA used to live there and it was upscale and very upper middle class……not anymore.
      —————————————————-

      This list could be about three cities longer……El PAso, Dallas, Corpus Christi

    • WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats are beginning to grow worried that if their impeachment effort fails, they’ll have to resort to plan B: nominating an electable candidate and winning an election.

      “The real danger here,” said Nancy Pelosi in a meeting of top Democrats, “is that the normal way of getting rid of a president—impeachment—fails. Then, we’d have to try to find someone who isn’t a smug, smarmy doofus and get the public to like them.”
      “What about Andrew Yang? He’s pretty nice,” said one aide, who was then asked to leave the room for such reckless hate.
      “I could run for president. I’m pretty electable,” said Chuck Schumer.
      “Oh, cut the crap. You’re insufferable,” said Pelosi, rolling her eyes. “Ocasio, any ideas?”
      “What if we just, like, seized the means of production and executed all the leaders?” Ocasio-Cortez asked, looking up from a comic book about herself she was reading. “That would be so fetch.”
      “Stop trying to make fetch happen!” Pelosi replied, clearly irritated now. “Alright, so getting elected is out. Let’s just put all our eggs in the impeachment basket and hope it works out. Maybe we can pass impeachment first so we can find out what things Trump did that are impeachable.”

      • Canine Weapon says:

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          When my five year old granddaughter made that face, I took a picture, showed it to her and referred to it thereafter as her “gorilla” face. She stopped in a quick hurry.

          • ::Dad voice:: What face are you making at me right now, missy?

            ::Dad voice: How are you speaking to me right now, missy?

            .. stops ’em cold.

  11. Canine Weapon says:

  12. OMG……..now we have a renewed movement from the snowflakes……and the pretend oppressed………to use the term “Owners” in sports franchises indicates slave ownership. If you play for a team and there is an owner of that franchise…..you cannot use the term owner because it depicts slavery???????????????

    Holy Shit…..

    • So, if I own a company and have employees and you work for my company…….you are now slaves?

      Cool….

    • It’s so strange to me that I only ever hear aboutthese kinds of radical lefy snowflake things from SUFA. Why does none of my left-leaning media ever cover this stuff?

      • CAn’t answer that question…..it was all over the ESPN sports last night and this morning.

      • This is kinda old news, but the left-leaning media won’t report on stuff they agree with, it’s not news, unless it causes grief on those who don’t agree. Apparently, noone really cares about the NBA and their BS.

  13. On a more interesting/serious note, thoughts about this? This was apparently posted at several theaters for the opening of the new Joker movie. In light of the Aurora shooting at another Joker movie, and in light of these theaters being private property, what do you guys think?

    Me, I think it must be terrible to live in a world where you constantly think that everyone around you is a perpetual threat. I think this kind of thing is CYA and knee-jerk reactionary-ism. And I think it’s completely ineffective, perhaps going so far as to be counterproductive. I think if we put half as much time and energy and money into cancer research, we’d have a cure by now and save 10,000x as many lives without turning the world into a pseudo-police-state.

    But that’s me… I’m wondering what you guys and gals think.

    • This doesn’t look like an insurance related move. Trying to give a false sense of security. Trying to get a headline. Beats me. If I was a single male, I’d skip the movie- maybe that’s their intention.

    • So married males are not subject to inspection……sounds like profiling to me. Single females are not subject to inspection….sounds like sexism to me…..married couples are not subject to inspection….sonds like discrimination to me.

    • I think I’d have the sudden urge to identify as a female, do up my face, wear a wig, etc. if I wanted to shoot up the place.

      Murf

    • That’s discriminatory, a violation of civil rights and probably illegal. What Right does the facility have to inspect if one is NOT on their property? LOL, If this were to happen to a black gay Tranny, the Left would burn the place down.

      • Then there is this….

        U.S.—Our nation’s intrepid journalists had been warning the country about the threat of the Joker movie and how it could encourage violence among disaffected white people and incels — the new greatest threat to mankind. And as reporters prepared for an onslaught of violence as Joker premiered over the weekend, they were horrified by what happened: absolutely no violence or anything worth reporting on whatsoever.

        “We found one incident of a guy cheering too loudly at the fictional violence,” said CNN reporter Terrance Shelton, “but that was it. There was nothing. Absolutely nothing we can glom onto and spin into a hot take that reinforces The Narrative. I’m shaken to my core.”
        Journalists have already been shaken by many attacks on the press. Much of this has come from President Trump, but a lot also from reality, which has specifically gone after many of their hyped predictions and disasters. “We had expert opinions saying that the Joker movie was just adding fuel to the fire with all that’s going on,” said New York Times writer Glenn Peterson. “And once again, reality has defied experts. That’s not right.”
        Now that opinion writers’ fears have been disproven, the pundits whose predictions were completely wrong and who have demonstrated they have no grasp of how reality actually works are expecting the harshest punishment for such a journalistic failure: absolutely nothing.

  14. Thoughts on Trump moving troops out of Syria and leaving the Kurds improtected.

  15. According to commissioner Adam Silver, the NBA is continuing to move away from the use of the term “owner” to describe those with controlling interest of teams in favor of the terms “Governor of the team” and “alternate Governor.”

    The change was made due to concerns that the term “owner” can be viewed as racially insensitive in a league where the vast majority of players are African-American and the majority of owners are Caucasian. While the league itself stopped using the term years ago, individual teams are now starting to follow suit; something Silver was asked about.

    Golden State Warriors forward Draymond Green is an example of a prominent player that has recently spoke out against the league’s previous use of the word owner.

    “You shouldn’t say owner,” Green said on an appearance on HBO’s The Shop. “[It should be called] CEO or Chairman. When you think of a basketball team … you think of the players that make that team.”

    To follow along with this trend, the Philadelphia 76ers recently changed the title of their owners to managing partners, and Steve Ballmer is listed as chairman on the Los Angeles Clippers official website. Other teams will likely follow in the near future

  16. U.S.—A series of new bills working their way through state legislatures in New York, California, Oregon, Hawaii, and several other progressive states will require you to listen to a Greta Thunberg lecture before purchasing gasoline.

    Motorists will be required to watch a 20-minute lecture by the 16-year-old climate activist before they purchase gallons and gallons of harmful fossil fuels.
    “We want to make sure drivers are informed,” said California Governor Gavin Newsom, who says he will sign the bill into law. “So we are having them get lectured by a 16-year-old so they will have all the facts before they do something rash like put gasoline in their cars to go to work.”
    Once the driver has listened to Thunberg’s entire lecture, they will be prompted to complete a quick, fifteen-question quiz to show they understand how horrible they are for driving a car. Drivers who get at least 80% will then be allowed to refuel their vehicles. As they refuel, the screen will simply play a clip of Thunberg saying, “How dare you!” over and over again.
    The law will not apply to celebrities purchasing jet fuel.

  17. As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!).

    Just… wow…

  18. Trump promises to ppull out of senseless wars……Does so and the establishment objects.

    So, Mr. Trump……if Congress wants the war powers….then out the idea to Congress and make them vote to stay or go.

    Bets what would happen? Taking bets.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      They been ducking the issue since Korea! Makes it awfully easy to go from being pro to being anti.

  19. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      I’m on my fifth bio of him and just bought an old “Classics Illustrated” 25 cent comic issued in ’57 for his 100th birthday so I can introduce him, the right way, to the grandkids.

      Those of you who have contact with teens, ask them if they have heroes. My scouting experience has led me to ask the question many times and they do not even understand it. I think a lot of our problems today are because they don’t. Nobody to emulate, nobody to set the course for them. The cynicism in society runs so deep and poisons them so early. This little Swedish loony bin is seen as a “hero” but if anything she is the opposite. Running someone or something down does not set any bar let alone a high one just depresses the hell out of you and makes the bad escapist things that much more attractive. Hell, if every teen thought the world would end in 12 years, just imagine the behavioral consequences.

  20. In my great and unmatched wisdom, I believe that Mr. Trump has gone off the rails.

    (Mathius knows in advance that the Trumpists will back his absurd comment to the hilt suggesting that he was communicating to Erdogan in “his” language or that Trump was just trolling the Democrats, and that he is, in fact, a very stable genius.)

    It’s good to know that we’re being led by one of such unmatched wisdom.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Mathius, I know you are having fun or a cow over the Trump statement. I suggest you look at the rest of his discussion on this. Especially towards the end of this piece:

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-threatens-totally-destroy-obliterate-turkey-s-economy-n1063366

      • Mathius, I know you are having fun or a cow over the Trump statement.

        Right on both counts.

        I suggest you look at the rest of his discussion on this.

        There are two items in this tweet worthy of discussion. (A) His monumental ego / lack of perspective / apparent delusions of grandeur and (B) what he / Erdogan are doing in Turkey.

        I’m going to have fun with the first (because thinking about it too hard will make me crazy). I’m not qualified to opine on the later and will reserve judgement pending the Colonel’s briefing tonight (once he’s been briefed).

  21. Canine Weapon says:

    (2nd attempt to get past G-man’s fascist censorship)

  22. Colonel,

    Can you give me a primer on what in the hell is going on in Turkey and what Trump’s decision means? I’d like your take rather than that of the talking heads.

    It SOUNDS like we’re abandoning allies in a move that benefits Iran and Russia… but I’ll believe that when I see it come out of your keyboard.

    • Sir Mathius…..I only know a little right now….I will know more this evening after a briefing.

      Erdogan apparently gave Trump a heads up that he was going to attack. He (Erdogan) knows that the Dems have weakened Trump to the point that Trump cannot fight…..no, make that will not fight. Trump also knows that Erdogan will invade ( and has last night ). Trump is boxed in…..the only real allies in the region are the Kurds. Turkey is not an ally any longer and has not been since halfway through the Obama reign. Obama failed to invoke the rules under the NATO charter and disregarded the issue with Erdogan and it has manifested since then. ( Do not get me wrong, this is not entirley Obama’s fault. Most of the fault lies with NATO and the UN who did not act either ).

      So, you have an ongoing issue with Turkey and the Kurds. There are lands that Turkey wants and they hate the Kurds. If I were Erdogan, I would have attacked now as well. He ahtes the Kurds and will annihilate them. Trump does not have the stomach to fight and he promised to pull troops out of that area anyway. He does not like the idea of peace keeping (policing) troops. I get that. The Dems do not like it either….but Trump is in a box right now. The Congress needs to give approval to stay and fight. They will not do this right now….our Congress knows that Trump will not sacrifice our Troops and he will pull out….at the same time Congress knows that it will be unpopular with the hawks….so, now, Congress is complaining about pulling out…the repubs are complaining about pulling out….and the troops are caught in the middle. So, Trump is doing what he should….save American lives because neither NATO or the UN will do anything…..Russia and China want it to happen and will help Erdogan and Erdogan will decimate the Kurds and take the land.

      So, Trump has one choice….pull out. This should make people happy because everyone thought that he would start a war….that he was a war monger. The opposite is true….he is not. As CIC, he is doing what a commander should do. Congress will stop any retaliatory strikes that Trump might want to do and claim that only Congress can instigate war….so the Dems have him over a barrel and will blame Trump.

      It is pure hardball politics and lives are in the balance but Congress does not care. Get Trump….so, Erdogan calls Trump and says this is a courtesy call….we are going to attack the Kurds and northern Syria…heads up, dude. Get out or die.

      In the end, it will be the Kurds (think Montgnards from 50 years ago) that will be abandoned and I will be willing to bet that Congress will not vote to aid them. So, you will have genocide. Second, Turkey does not want the Syrian refugees….4 million of them. They will be forced back immediately. There are over 30,000 ISIS fighters in captivity in Northern Syria…. Erdogan will free them because it is to his advantage. Syria will become more of a cess pool than it is now. Russia/China or a combination will step in and take Syria…..it is to their advantage.

      It is a brilliant strategic move for Erdogan……while Trump is under impeachment investigations. There is only one move the US can make…..other than pull out…and that is to tell Erdogan that we will fight him if he attacks. Congress will not permit it. NATO is a piece of shit….and should drop Turkey like a hot turd. We do not need Turkey, all their missile systems and military hardware has already been replaced with Russian equipment anyway…and Erdogan gave Russia some of our secrets.

      So, we pull out and let the genocide take place….no one will stop them……is it really our place?

      Now, look at it this way as well….it is a brilliant strategic move for Putin. He knows that Europe is more worthless than snake shit on a 100 degree day. They will do nothing, Putin is a Cold War warrior…..he has picked off Turkey….and he will pick off Syria.

      The Blue Team wins this one. This is politics and lives.

      I will know more this afternoon as Erdogan has already started his invasion.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        Nice analysis mon colonel!. The rock and the hard place.

        If the Russians are dumb enough to step into this mess, so be it and yes, it is Europe’s responsibility to deal with it not ours. We can participate but only if they are making the move first. Everything West of the Polish/Czech boundary is not worth a cup of warm spit!

        It is absolutely amazing just how craven the old nato countries have become. In many ways it parallels the effects of the welfare system we have at work here. Domestically it ruined people. By “holding their hand” in Europe all these decades, we have done the same thing to entire nations.

        I suspect that we did it for the primary reason we did not want them to descend back into bad old habits. What we missed was a phase out. Certainly, after the fall of the wall, maintaining the fiction the Russia posed the same threat as the USSR did was a joke. They might damn well be able to reduce Western Europe to nuclear ash but they were not pouring through the Fulda gap anytime soon. Though one does wonder just how many Spetsnaz troops it would take to bring all Western Europe crashing down.

        • Though one does wonder just how many Spetsnaz troops it would take to bring all Western Europe crashing down. Two troops…….One to take Europe down and the other to take the word back. Europe is even worse than our own snowflakes.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Turkey, like the rest of the Middle East is going fundamental. They are all just waiting for the new Mahadi. If you read Turk post ww 1 history you will see that Kemel Mustafa (Attaturk) dragged what was left of the country after the Brits and Frogs sliced and diced it into the 20th Century Western mode. For openers, he adopted the Latin Alphabet. He changed law made Civil Law paramount, changed dress codes (even outlawed the fez) and essentially tried to Europeanize the place.

      Turkey was so badly carved up that they are unlikely to ever agree to give up territory again or allow self rule. I have no clue what the hell is on Erdogan’s mind unless it is an attempt to pacify the fundamentalists in which case, it will not work. The westernization of Turkey over the past 100 years is slowly being rolled back and I have real doubts about the so called coup attempt and think it might well have been a peremptory strike from the President. He certainly wasted no time in rounding up 20,000 or so conspirators.

      Regarding “Greater Kurdistan” which is split between Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey. Short of going to war to establish such a place, what other option is there? Seriously what would YOU do? The best chance was probably the suggestion after the Iraq war to partition the country along ethnic lines. Even that is problematic since what exactly would be the boundaries of the new Kurdistan? Who sets them and would they make anybody any happier than they are now. Just how long have India Pakistan and China been arguing over Kashmir? I’ve wondered for years if you actually gave the Kurds a country carved out of one of the places they are in now, would than merely turn into a base of operations to attack another country and enlarge Kurdistan? How is Bosnia working out? Anybody know?Anybody care?

      What’s that expression about herding cats?

      • Seriously what would YOU do?

        PRESIDENT Mathius would consult with his colonel for advice and then probably nuke the entire region from orbit. It is, however, unlikely that he would go on twitter and proclaim his “great and unmatched wisdom.”

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          So, you don’t proclaim it, you merely DO it!

          • How does one “do” having “great and unmatched wisdom”?

            “Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure,it’s not your fault” – Trump

            “People who boast about their IQ are losers” – Stephen Hawking

            … ONE of these two people had great wisdom.

            • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

              Ya know Trump likes to get YOUR goat personally when he says those things, You and about 70,000,000 others.

        • After some quick research, Trump is pulling out 50 Special forces troops who were there to advise and train. This, after 6 years ago, Obama repeated over and over “NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN SYRIA”, which 3 years ago or so he sent boots to be on the ground.

          In short, Trump is just fixing another Obama issue. I highly doubt 50 advisors are going to serve as peacekeeping forces. Time to come home Men, job well done!

  23. I am in G Mans isolation camp…..moderation please.

    • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

      I am in G Mans isolation camp

      I have it on good authority that he cuts off his prisoners’ ears. Do you require an emergency evac, or can you make your own way?

    • I find that – for me at least – the majority of the moderated posts seem to happen right after I sign in to wordpress. If I’ve already posted since the last time I closed the tab, I almost always get through (unless I have a lot of links in my post).

      So, what I do is I always copy my first comment after signing in before posting. Then, if it goes to moderation, I can just hit paste* and re-post it.

      ———–

      *it won’t let you post duplicate comments so you’ll have to add an extra letter or space or whatnot to get around that.

      • I have found that length seems to be an issue at times. More than 3 links, it automatic. The other thing that crossed my mind is that 2 or more posts are trying to get posted at the same time and the longer one is sent to another folder. And for some reason, WordPress has an issue with dogs and horses posting, it seems to confuse the website. Gif’s go there a lot too. It’s not me. It’s a pain in the butt bailing you folks out all the time, damn criminals 😛

        • WordPress has an issue with dogs and horses posting, it seems to confuse the website.

          It seems likely that dogs and horses don’t have their own computer and have to use someone else’s.. so they’d have to log out and back in a lot..

          Given that, we might expect them to have the issue I describe above where your first post after logging in goes to spam.

  24. Well, since SUFA seems dead today, let’s play “WHO SAID IT”… was it (A) a liberal in 2016-9 or (B) a conservative in 1999.

    1. “What’s a high crime? How about if an important person hurts somebody of low means? It’s not very scholarly. But I think it’s the truth. I think that’s what they meant by high crimes. Doesn’t even have to be a crime.”

    2. “You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role.”

    3. “Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”

    4. “He doesn’t have to say ‘go lie for me.’ He doesn’t have to say ‘let’s obstruct justice’ for it to be a crime. You judge people on their conduct, not magic phrases.”

    5. “I choose to be on the side that says no person is above the law.”

    6. “No president can be allowed to subvert the judiciary or thwart the investigative responsibility of the legislature.”

  25. Just A Citizen says:

    From new book “Deep State”:

    “Stewart writes that the informant told Comey of an email from Deborah Wasserman Schultz, chair of the Democratic National Committee, to Leonard Benardo, an executive with the Open Society Foundations, which was founded by George Soros.

    In it, Wasserman Schultz allegedly assured Benardo that Lynch wouldn’t let the Clinton investigation get very far, suggesting that Lynch would protect Clinton.

    The report did not include the actual text but the summary was enough for Comey to ‘continue to worry about Lynch’s impartiality’, Stewart writes. ”

    Also, Comey was pushing for a special prosecutor for the Clinton email scandal. Lynch pushed back and wouldn’t move on the request.

    How many times do we have to see just how slimy these political types are before we do something about it?????

    • When they make people uncomfortable enough to grab their pitchforks and ropes and go get them.

  26. “The new Pope is a humble man, very much like me, which probably explains why I like him so much!” – Trump, 2013

    “I think I’m much more humble than you would understand. ” – Trump, 2006

    “in my great and unmatched wisdom” – Trump, 2019

    • Just A Citizen says:

      And you don’t seem to see the consistency. Are you that blinded by your bias?

      • And you don’t seem to see the consistency

        That he’s constantly bragging about his superiority in every category, even when doing so is.. what’s the reverse of a tautology..?

        Are you that blinded by your bias?

        Probably.

        • Mathius…….I do not like bragging……never have……but I do not see much difference between the one in office now as compared to the one he replaced.

          • But the point is…….bragging. It is ok if you are a Texan, however…..but if bragging is the truth, then is it bragging?

            • But is it “bragging”….. or “delusion”….. or “lack of perspective”?

              • Does it matter? All three are subjective terms….so…who is to say?

                “I think that I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters,” Mr. Obama told Patrick Gaspard, his political director, at the start of the 2008 campaign, according to The New Yorker. “I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I’ll tell you right now that I’m going to think I’m a better political director than my political director.”—-Barrack Obama

                Bragging? Delusional? Lack of Perspective?

              • Ex squeeze me,,,,,,,,I did answer, kind sir….I said that the definitions you offered were subjective……then I offered a comparison. I do not see much difference.

              • Ex squeeze me

                You are not ex squeezed.

                Please go have a seat on the Group W bench.

  27. Without getting belligerent, does anyone think that the Dunning Kruger Effect might – MIGHT – have any bearing on some of Trumps’s self aggrandizing statements?

    I know the prevailing wisdom is that everything he does is 13th dimensional chess or a brilliant tactic or trolling.. but might there be some D-K issues going on, too?

    MIGHT it be possible that he is at the part of the D-K curve colloquially known as “Mt. Stupid” (sorry.. that’s just what it’s called, I’m not saying this to attack Trump)? The point where he knows just enough to believe that everything is easy and simple and that he gets it all.. the point right before all that unearned, unwarranted confidence goes away in the face of a broader understanding? And long before true expertise with justifiable confidence begins to emerge?

    MIGHT it be possible that he so lacks knowledge and perspective that he believes he’s one of the great minds… because he doesn’t understand just how great a great mind can be? That he thinks he understands everything because he doesn’t understand how complicated it can be. That he thinks he is the best at everything because he doesn’t understand what it means to actually be the best at these things?

    I won’t deny that some of it is bragging. Or that it’s just sheer ego. Or that it’s posturing. Or trolling. All these are possible and almost certainly true at various points. That’s not what I’m asking. I’m asking: might – MIGHT – it be possible that he sits atop “Mt. Stupid” and that’s why be thinks he’s the best and so brilliant and wise?

    Take for example, health care. He went from “You’re going to have such great health care, at a tiny fraction of the cost—and it’s going to be so easy.” ….. to …… “Now, I have to tell you, it’s an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated.” What could explain that shift? Sure, he went from campaign to office holder. But might – MIGHT – it also be plausible that he just didn’t know enough about healthcare to appreciate its complexity? That he knew just enough to think that a handful of easy changes would fix the whole thing? Who knew, indeed? While Sanders was endlessly ranting about nuanced minutiae, Trump was just spouting off “I’ll figure something out.” And it’s that ignorance… the sitting atop the peak of the Dunning Kruger effect… which let him look out and think he had it all mastered.

    • Might…..

    • Would you also concede that anyone….ANYONE…whom chooses to run for and obtain the POTUS position suffers mightly from these effects. Type A personalities all suffer from these effects….perhaps?

      I think one of the main reasons I am not a general is I did not “toot my horn” loud enough. I did not assume a posture of all knowing……I mistakenly assumed that my record would speak for itself (no, Mathius, that is not a set up)…….

      Don’t you think that most captains of industry do not get there without type a personalities and visions of grandeur?

      • Would you also concede that anyone….ANYONE…whom chooses to run for and obtain the POTUS position suffers mightly from these effects

        Yes.

        Though I seem to see it on more significant display with Trump than others.

        Type A personalities all suffer from these effects….perhaps?

        Perhaps… but I’d suggest that it’s far more a question of “ignorance”.. it’s the not knowing which enables you to think a thing is simple and that you have all the answers.

        I think one of the main reasons I am not a general is I did not “toot my horn” loud enough.

        Me neither. I’ve had to learn to force myself to take victory laps. It’s… uncomfortable, but my career definitely improved once I started doing it.

        Don’t you think that most captains of industry do not get there without type a personalities and visions of grandeur?

        Perhaps.. but, again, delusions of grandeur is a slightly different matter. This isn’t about “I’m so great” as much as it is a question of ignorance about various subject matters leading you to believe they’re easier than they are. It’s a question of whether Trump’s (alleged / supposed) ignorance lands him atop Mt. Stupid.

        For example, Trump’s shift on healthcare from “it’ll be easy” to “who knew it could be so complicated.” You know who knew? EVERYONE who spent more than a passing thought looking into it. You knew. Didn’t you? I sure as hell did. Everyone here did. But not Trump. It wasn’t a question of him thinking HE was so great, but that he didn’t know enough to know that it was hard.

        • I will give you “ignorance” of how politics work….To use your example, I have negotiated several health care plans for 350 people in 7 states….it was easy….very easy. I have problems with seeing why it is so difficult on a National level…just impose a multiplier……easy business approach. Why don’t you give him credit for getting into it and recognizing that it is much harder than anticipated and then changing his mind. You have done that for others. At any rate, I think Trump is dumb like a fox BUT…….his ego is a problem with me and he does not like to fail… no one does. I can also see where his business like approach is not something that politicians like. But…………we shall see. I hate to see what a Warren President will do…….

          Now, a question for you. Are you jumping on the Hillary Clinton dark horse yet?

          • Why don’t you give him credit for getting into it and recognizing that it is much harder than anticipated and then changing his mind.

            I DO!!

            But that doesn’t mean I’m going to just ignore his blanket pronouncements of ease and superior understanding when others who – obviously – knew more insisted otherwise. I’m not going to ignore him pushing this narrative that he can “easily” solve problems that experts have found intractable… only because of his ignorance.

            Reminds me of…

            I think Trump is dumb like a fox

            Yup… he’s a wiley one…

            BUT…….his ego is a problem with me

            And me… but that’s, again, not really what I’m trying to get at here… I’m trying to get at whether his IGNORANCE might be as much to blame for his unrealistic world view.

            and he does not like to fail… no one does.

            Of course.

            I think that goes doubly for someone whose brand is “winning!”

            I can also see where his business like approach is not something that politicians like.

            Sure.

            But if this is his business approach, one wonders how he ever got anything done when he jumps into situations without any understanding of the situation yet incongruously filled with unlimited confidence.

            Then again… several of his businesses have declared bankruptcy, so…… there’s that.

            But…………we shall see.

            I think we’re seeing. But the full manifestation will come in due course.

            The problem is that everything bad that happens will be blamed on Democrats. YOU might not buy that, JAC may not buy that. But [redacted] absolutely will. Hook line and sinker. Every will is/will be accrued to Trump and every loss will be accrued to Blue Team.

            I hate to see what a Warren President will do…….

            Me, too. And, yet, I think she’s the better option by far.

            Now, a question for you. Are you jumping on the Hillary Clinton dark horse yet?

            ::aneurysm::

  28. uh oh….am I in purgatory again?

  29. Judge Reggie B. Walton told federal prosecutors on Monday they need to put charges forward against former acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe in 38 days.
    If they don’t, the Department of Justice will be forced to end their investigation into obstruction of justice and release all their evidence against McCabe to the public.

    Judge Walton said at the hearing that U.S. prosecutors have until Nov. 15 to formally charge McCabe or he’ll intervene.

    “If the government has not made a call I’m going to make a ruling,” Walton said. “This is just dragging too long. And those who have to make these hard decisions need to do it. And if they don’t, I’m going to start ordering the release of information.”
    “I will not condone any further delay,” he said. “You all have got to cut and make your decision”
    https://thehornnews.com/judge-orders-arrest-of-obama-official-or-else/

    • Translated: “Shit or get off the pot.”

      • Correct 🙂

        I have enjoyed the chat today. Good stuff and amusing . Some observations:

        Trump is SO in your head and it’s amusing as hell.
        The difference between Trump and any other asshat politician is Trump Tweets a lot. It’s driving (you) and the Left nuts and that’s why he is in the heads of so many. I find it all amusing too!
        I am wrong about the numbers of troops in Syria (maybe). Trump (and videos I have seen) say 50. Today on the news I heard 1000. My opinion, bring them home!!!!

        • Some COUNTER-observations.

          Trump is SO in your head and it’s amusing as hell.

          Trump is the President of the Untied States and the most powerful person on the planet by a long-shot. That you aren’t concerned with his antics, ignorance, impulsivity, and juvenile behavior is worrying as hell.

          The difference between Trump and any other asshat politician is Trump Tweets a lot

          No. It’s that he’s a full-blown narcisist on a level even Obama couldn’t hope to touch. He’s a diaper baby with a cult following.

          and the Left nuts and that’s why he is in the heads of so many. I find it all amusing too!

          And I find your glee in our consternation to be abhorrent.

          Only a sadist finds joy in the unnecessary misery of others.

          We are your fellow Americans. Though we might disagree with the hows and whats, we also want what’s best for this country and the world and the future. Pissing us off for the sake of pissing us off, and then smiling about how those stupid cuck libtards got owned by the President is just plain fucked up.

          That is NOT how a healthy, well-adjusted, sane adult behaves. Neither as the leader of the antagonism, nor as a follower.

          That you can’t see this is just… pathetic.

          I am wrong about the numbers of troops in Syria (maybe). Trump (and videos I have seen) say 50. Today on the news I heard 1000. My opinion, bring them home!!!!

          I’m not qualified to opine. Pending the colonel’s briefing.

          • I do not concern myself with how Trump acts, his policies are working economically, bigtime. I also like his foreign policy. Considering you have said you would vote for an ax murderer if his policies were what you agreed with, you are showing yourself as typical liberal. You say “I can support a real shithead, as long as I agree policy wise” and to you that’s no problem….but when someone else does the same thing your “worried”. Spare me your moral superiority bullshit 😛

            And I find your glee in our consternation to be abhorrent. I get glee from watching people melt down who are no damn better than the person they are melting down over. It is also called ARROGANCE. Me, I can’t change the man, so why worry about it. He’s doing just fine so far. Keeping as many campaign promises as possible, which is refreshing considering the past.

            That is NOT how a healthy, well-adjusted, sane adult behaves. When you get your PHD in Psychology, your opinion might mean something. Until then, it’s your opinion, nothing special…really…it’s not.

            Waiting on the Colonel’s input too 😛

  30. Please go have a seat on the Group W bench. NO….I want my own bench.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Nice, but who will read it besides us? Sad state of affairs.

      If you have ever seen Capra;’s “Meet John Doe” or “Mr. Smith goes to Washington”, You are watching the political/media collusion in both those movies play out for real today.

  31. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    Apparently Trump derangement syndrome is expanding. The outrage over Ellen sitting next to Bush the younger is as real as if it were Trump!

    • Just A Citizen says:

      SK

      Sorry Sir but that was Bush derangement syndrome. It has never gone away on the left, or among the anarcho-capitalists…….aka Libertarians.

      I wonder what all those Democratic Party morons would have had to say about FDR or Truman after the bombing in Europe and Japan.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        He was a democrat, they would love it. Note how the revisionists want to exonerate JFK on Viet-nam. I have heard hundreds of “historians” cite “hints” that Kennedy was planning to withdraw. Really? Engineering the Diem coup kinda blows that all to hell.

        Malcolm had it so right, The chickens DID come home to roost!”

  32. Just A Citizen says:

    So what does Trump do if Pelosi takes his threat and hold a full vote on the Impeachment Inquiry and it passes……… along party lines, with the usual R’s joining in?

    Does he then say OK, and hand over the doc’s requested and lift the restrictions on agency staff testifying????????

    Time for Pelosi to put up or shut up.

    • I doubt she will do much of anything but flap her gums. Someone should remind her that the HoR is a legislative agency, not a n investigative agency. Some new reports will be coming out and people will see who the problem is in DC. It won’t be too much longer and the Soft Coup will be fully exposed.

  33. China has rejected US President Donald Trump’s call to investigate his Democrat rival Joe Biden and Biden’s son […]

    “We have no intention of intervening in the domestic affairs of the United States. Our position is consistent and clear.”
    – Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3032042/china-rejects-us-president-donald-trumps-call-investigate

    —–

    I mean, it’s bullshit to pretend that China is in any way “principled” about interfering with other countries, but it’s interesting to see them directly call out Trump by referring to his suggestion that they investigate Biden as a de facto request that they “intervening in the domestic affairs of the United States.” That is, they’re saying they don’t believe there’s a crime to investigate but, rather, that they see this as a naked political move and they won’t play ball.

    Now, TO BE FAIR, they’re in the middle of a trade war, so they have every incentive to paint Trump in the worst possible light and to not cooperate with him. So everything China says or does should be taken with a grain of salt. Well, a heaping pile of salt… and, well, not just now and with Trump but always.. I guess what I’m saying is that you should never Trust anything the Chinese government does.

    But, anyway, I just thought it was interesting.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Why exactly after bribing the Vice President of the United States would they want to investigate that bribery?

      I mean, let us use some common sense here. Trump called them out for the same reason he called on Russia to “investigate” Hillary’s missing E-mails. He is trying to drive YOU crazy!

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Sorry Sir but this is an UNFOUNDED CONCLUSION, nothing but your bias showing through.

      “That is, they’re saying they don’t believe there’s a crime to investigate but, rather, that they see this as a naked political move and they won’t play ball.”

      Do you not think the Chinese watch and understand our media and internal political struggles? Do you not think they would just as soon see Trump damaged and even replaced?

      This is nothing more than how other nations “politely” decline what ever it is they are not interested in. And given China’s corruption why in the world would we expect them to investigate themselves and Biden, and then possibly destroy a relationship they are hoping improves if Biden would win???

  34. Bill Taylor: the top American diplomat in Ukraine (appointed by Bush, removed by Obama, re-appointed (interim) by Trump)
    Gordon Sondland: U.S. Ambassador to the European Union

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      I think that Sondland’s final message pretty well sums it up.

      • “Hey are we committing a crime here?”
        “Stop talking about our crime on a recorded medium. Call me.”

        [later]

        “Just to be clear, per our call, I’m really not cool with this crime we’re committing.”
        “Dear FBI agents reading this in the future, my colleague has the wrong idea and this is definitely NOT a crime. Nothing to see here. Please, instead, accept my talking points about quid pro quo.”

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Yep, that is how Democrats interpret the English language. Good job.

          • Well, I’m not a Democrat, so I can’t speak for them.

            But that’s a decent enough interpretation of how -I- think this conversation might be interpreted without being entirely unreasonable.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              It is completely unreasonable. Especially after the last rebuttal.

              It is an interpretation that requires one to have made up their mind and are now just looking for anything that can be twisted to the narrative.

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          I guess you’re just doing the Adam Schiff “satire” thing. In case you missed it, the Ukraine was corrupt before, during and after we got involved. Remember we engineered a coup to overthrow a corrupt regime and replace it with an even more corrupt regime. Soooo before becoming their “best buds” it might be wise to take a breather and see just how they are getting along under their new President.

          What argues AGAINST your position is that it is a SALE of military equipment, not aid, not a gift and something which could be called back at any time for any reason. (see for example, the expulsion of Turkey from the F-35 program) and I think, more importantly, a continuation of military supplies to the Ukraine by the president who first started giving them such things. I remind you his predecessor could not have been caught in this bind since he DID NOT provide military assistance. Perhaps that was the stuff he was talking to “Vlad” about after the re-election when he had more “flexibility”. Green lighting him.

          It is unfortunate that you have some real holes in your knowledge but that should self-correct over time.

          • I guess you’re just doing the Adam Schiff “satire” thing.

            Yes. It’s called “satire” or “parody.”

            In case you missed it, the Ukraine was corrupt before, during and after we got involved.

            And probably will be long after we’re all dead.

            Remember we engineered a coup to overthrow

            Overthrow… supported a revolution…

            to-may-to.. to-mah-to..

            a corrupt regime and replace it with an even more corrupt regime.

            Sounds about par for the US…

            Soooo before becoming their “best buds” it might be wise to take a breather and see just how they are getting along under their new President.

            ABSOLUTELY!

            100% agree.

            Completely on board with you on this.

            Golly, gee, I wonder just how much corruption is going on in the Ukraine and has gone on over the last several years.. probably a crap-ton (that’s a scientific measurement, I promise). It definitely makes sense to make sure that we’re sending our money to people who won’t abuse it, and to make sure that our friends have cleaned up their act..

            Totally. Makes total sense.

            Why the Biden “scandal”? I mean, there must be a million other corruptions he could have asked about. Why that one?

            What argues AGAINST your position is that it is a SALE of military equipment, not aid, not a gift and something which could be called back at any time for any reason. (see for example, the expulsion of Turkey from the F-35 program) and I think, more importantly, a continuation of military supplies to the Ukraine by the president who first started giving them such things.

            This wasn’t my impression. I was under the impression that it was aid which would be used to buy military equipment. Always possible I’m wrong.

            I remind you his predecessor could not have been caught in this bind since he DID NOT provide military assistance.

            Ok… so?

            Perhaps that was the stuff he was talking to “Vlad” about after the re-election when he had more “flexibility”. Green lighting him.

            I’m not really sure what you’re getting at here…

            It is unfortunate that you have some real holes in your knowledge but that should self-correct over time.

            Definitely. I just contributed to Wikipedia’s fund raiser, so that should help!

            • Just A Citizen says:

              HE DID NOT ASK ABOUT JUST THAT ONE. This is a critical point that you Mathius keep ignoring. You sound like a broken DNC record, talking points over and over and over again.

              He asked them to look into the all the stories and reported crimes dealing with Ukraine and the DNC colluding to affect the 2016 election. TWO people in Ukraine were convicted of doing this. Their sentencing was held up and possibly a new trial is now ongoing. But the bottom line is they were found guilty of working to interfere in the US elections.

              Biden would probably not have come up in the conversation if not for one thing. Biden being caught on tape bragging about his BLACKMAILING the Ukraine Govt.

            • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

              How’s about….”Engineered a revolution”, which resulted in a coup. Gimmie a break here. The guy was elected. WE replaced corrupt with Russia to corrupt with us and the Krauts.

            • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

              The Biden scandals have been on the radar for years. The most obvious of no doubt many. But remember, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE mainly because there has been no investigation merely an incredible appearance of impropriety and “confession”.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      It is my personal opinion at this time that this Taylor fella is a member of the den of leakers. Someone got this narrative going among the Foggy Bottom crowd. I think his continuing to text message the same concerns, obviously after being told he was wrong. Why?

      It pushes the narrative by providing a documented trail of evidence. Even if that evidence is nothing but Taylor’s misguided opinion or his deliberate participation in the “coup”.

      • It is my personal opinion at this time that this Taylor fella is a member of the den of leakers.

        Possibly. But unsupported.

        Also note that he’s a Trump appointee.. and Trump hires only the very best people.

        I think his continuing to text message the same concerns, obviously after being told he was wrong. Why?

        Could be CYA.

        I do this with my boss. I hate it, I really do, but if I don’t, I get blamed for things. I have to go on record and get his confirmation of my statements or else I am at fault somehow.

        Were -I- the ranking diplomat and thrown into the middle of this, I’d sure as hell want to make sure I had a discoverable record that I was not on board with it… or else, if/when it did come to like, I’d be very concerned that Trump would make me the fall-guy.

        You know.. because the buck stops ::gestures vaguely:: over there.

        It pushes the narrative by providing a documented trail of evidence.

        Yes.

        Though, again, this seems very clearly like CYA to me.

        Maybe it “pushes the narrative” because that’s the narrative as he sees it?

        Even if that evidence is nothing but Taylor’s misguided opinion or his deliberate participation in the “coup”.

        This isn’t “evidence” of anything, per say.. it’s just more smoke.

        This guy was in the loop. He had at least a handful of private confidential conversations with very senior people very closely connected to this issue. He is the top American diplomat in Ukraine. IF there was an effort to as described, he would certainly have some exposure to it.

        And he is on-record expressing concerns that the administration might be doing just that.

        And then, rather that looking at that and saying “why is he concerned,” you’re instead rejecting outright his concern and questioning “why would he go out of his way to make it look like he holds these false concerns.” I find that reasoning.. motivated.

        nothing but Taylor’s misguided opinion

        How do you know his opinions were misguided? He was IN THE KNOW and he expressed concerns. Why do you, who has no special insider knowledge and a mere fraction of the facts, have standing to say he was wrong to hold this opinion?

        or his deliberate participation in the “coup”.

        You have provided exactly ZERO evidence for his participation in anything even remotely close to a “coup.” In fact, the only evidence you have is a private conversation between him and another diplomat expressing concern.

        Boil that down and you have “anyone in the administration who isn’t automatically 100% on board with everything Trump does is a potential co-conspirator in a coup attempt.”

        Admittedly, that might a biiit hyperbolic.

    • Just A Citizen says:
      • Let’s see you twist the meaning of this.

        You should know by now that I can twist the meaning of anything!

        “There’s an argument in favor of cherry-picking selective releases of texts. There’s an argument in favor of only telling the American public what is best in the interest of wanting to take down a sitting president.

        Sure sounds a lot like the bullshit that went on at the endless Benghazi hearings….

        … article marked for followup as time permits.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          This was one of my points:

          “Maybe it “pushes the narrative” because that’s the narrative as he sees it?” Which leaves four options, two of which there is no evidence for, but only one of those has evidence to the contrary:

          1. It is all true and he knows it is true, because he heard something.

          2. He has interpreted it this way. But then you have to ask why would he be disposed to interpret it in this way contrary to other evidence it is not true..

          3. Others have influenced his thinking. Which begs who and why.

          4. He is part of the cabal that created this, because they are predisposed to think this way and they want Trump gone.

          Yes, it looks like CYA, but what is he covering? He was not involved in the decision so why would he have to cover his backside??? No, I think this is deliberately trying to undermine a decision with which he did not agree. This may be the actual source or beginning of this narrative from within the State and Intell communities. He thought this is what was happening so he discussed with others. Those predisposed to this thinking then ran with it. Some folks who heard first or second hand accounts then thought, “well that is what I thought I heard” and off it goes. A grand example of the Post Office affect.

          Then again, it could just be a deliberate soft coup attempt.

  35. Just A Citizen says:

    Oh…….so precious she thinks she is……………

    “It’s time for Trump to stop using Twitter to play into our adversaries’ hands,” Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who sits on Senate Intel, tweeted after the report debuted. “With every deranged tweet, he advances foreign interests by dividing Americans.”

    1. Why is a California ex AG and first term Senator sitting on the Intel Committee?????
    2. You know the rest……… pot calling to the kettle.

  36. Just A Citizen says:

    Another sudden and unexpected snow last night Should melt off except in the shady spots. Two snow storms and the leaves have not yet turned completely.

    • I need the weather to hold up for another week and change.. .got a camping trip with the girls scheduled for the 18-20th.

      The wife pushed me to schedule in fall and is now making noises about how it might be too cold and “we’ll see.”

      Yea, “we’ll see,” alright. We’ll see if they have to wear warm clothes or very warm clothes. But unless there’s an active typhoon, we’re going. S’mores will be made.

      ———

      On a related note: I plan to bring eggs / bacon… but obviously, I can’t let them get warm before booking, especially if the weather is warm… how does one generally handle this? I imagine I could throw them in a cooler with ice and that would probably get them through a day, but two days..?

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        Try and find canned Bacon. I used to use it all the time. Eggs of course should be scrambled ahead of time, cooled and packed in a thermal container (Thermos) . If you want to bring them uncracked, they will hold up till the next morning. They do tend to last a few days in a hen house.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Mathius

        A cooler is just fine. Bacon is cured and will be fine if just cool. Eggs do not need to be refrigerated, but will be just fine in a cooler with ice. Freeze water in 1 gallon or 1/2 gallon plastic mild jugs Chill cooler with ice the night before, chill all food going into the cooler, then replace w/new ice before you pack it up and leave. Your new ice will last longer.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        P.S.

        Pony up the 5 bills and get yourself a mid sized YETI cooler. It will hold ice for many days if prepared as I described above. It would serve you well in back up during power failures and is sturdy enough to sit on or stand on if you need a stool.

        • Can’t I just borrow yours?

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Sure, I will leave it on the porch for ya.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            I forgot to mention, the YETI is as close to Bear Proof as any cooler can be. It was designed for outfitting in Griz Country.

            You can put drinks and ice in it and put it on your deck or porch in the summer. Will last about 5 days if in the shade. Saves on refrigerator space during the Cold Drink season.

  37. The below claim was made by Trump’s lawyers in one of the cases against having to release his taxes. I DO NOT want to litigate whether he should have to release them nor whether it’s appropriate for people and governments to try to force him. Instead, I would like to focus on the defense being offered on his behalf:

    What say you about this defense?

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Mathius

      I do NOT like it, but it does have some merit. Although the District judge disagreed in accepting this immunity as absolute.

      The argument is consistent with the immunity the Framers granted Congress and their creation of the Impeachment power to deal with bad actors. They clearly didn’t want the legal system to get caught up in, and become a tool of, political warfare.

      I do not think the immunity is absolute as they argue. Because those Wizards in Black Robes have and will do as they want.

      But I do have real heartburn over prosecuting a sitting president for things he did before he was elected. Especially when those issues were “litigated” by the public in his/her election. During office there is the impeachment option. After office, the NY AG can go after him for his tax issues if he wants.

      I have not looked into this but I do know the tax records issue was linked to Mueller’s investigation. As in it is part of one of the charges handed off to NY prosecutors. I am wondering if the records are now only subject to release because he is POTUS.

      Now the better question. SHOULD elected officials be immune to prosecution for any crimes while holding office?? SHOULD the immunity of Congress from being prosecuted while in session be eliminated??? My gut reaction is HELL NO, hang em and hang em high.

      But then I remember that we have AG’s like Kamala Harris who are ambitious politicians who make the decisions to prosecute or not. Which causes me to then think, WELL MAYBE.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        A vindictive prosecutor can play havoc with financial records. I know, I was involved in a federal trial where they got an indictment by confusing the Grand Jury, made hay out of the accounting and ultimately LOST the case because it was all bullshit. With a chance to rebut the prosecution at trial and make the jury understand the complexity of the issue while cutting through to the meat the two week trial ended in about five minutes of jury deliberation.

        To this very day, thirty years later, the defendant still wants to know HOW he gets HIS reputation back since the indictment itself and the subsequent trial destroyed his viability as as a real estate developer.

  38. I’m blacked out or is that a raciest term.

  39. Just A Citizen says:

    A comment regarding Turkey and the Kurds.

    “”People will come to see the United States as untrustworthy or transactional,” Bowman said. “The net result is that the next time we need friends allies partners, they won’t be there.””

    My God, if they didn’t learn that lesson the other half dozen times we betrayed someone, why would they learn it this time? I think maybe each new player thinks maybe next time the US will actually keep its promises.

  40. WASHINGTON, D.C.—As the end of Daylight Saving Time approaches, President Trump has declared that instead of turning the clocks back one hour, Americans will be turning them back to January 20, 2017, granting him an entire redo of his first term in office.

    “I hereby order all Americans, at the end of DST, to turn all their clocks back to January 20, 2017,” Trump said in a speech Wednesday. “This time change will be beneficial for both homes and businesses as I am granted more years to make America great again.”
    Constitutional scholars desperately searched for a way around the executive order, but since they let the previous president get away with pretty much anything he wanted with his executive orders, they had no precedent to stand on.
    “All we can do is put on an outraged face and try to live out 2017, 2018, and 2019 again,” said one Harvard professor grimly.
    Political pundits worry that Trump may be able to have the time set back to January 2017 just before the election takes place every single one of his terms, granting himself effectively unlimited time in office.
    “It’s a constitutional loophole we haven’t been able to close yet,” said one legal scholar. “So we’re just gonna have to deal with the Trump presidency for the foreseeable eternity.”
    As Trump made the announcement, protesters gathered outside the White House to scream at the sky. Again.

    • PEAKS BAY, WA—A local public library is being called a “cesspool of radical, far-right hate” after it was revealed that the library just has books and no drag queens whatsoever.

      “There are no drag queens in sight, not even in the children’s section!” said one protester as they started picketing the building Tuesday afternoon, trying to prevent children from going inside and getting brainwashed by information, facts, and logic. “What kind of nation are we living in when a library just has books!?”
      Progressive protesters came up with a solution: burning the books to prevent the rise of this dangerous brand of fascism.
      “If we burn all the books, then there will be a lot more room for drag queen performances,” said Xyle Parson while waving a sign that said, “Love Wins and If You Don’t Like It You Can Die in a Fire.” “Then, fascism and far-right totalitarianism will finally be defeated.”
      The library has apologized and will be installing a stripper pole in the kids’ area in order to make it right.

  41. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Many years ago my Father worked with the Canadian government to create the computer applications for their universal healthcare system.. I distinctly remember Dad saying that he asked the Canadian official defining the criteria, “How do you think the Canaduan people will react to this type of medical system”? The officials answer was “Just fine, our people ACCEPT medioceacy”

  42. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I’m on vacation in the mid Hudson Valley area. Unfortunately the weather has been crappy. Rainy, warm and little to no foliage color even in the Catskills. HOWEVER I feel I must report

    1) the residents have been EXCEEDING polite, talkative and helpful in every way possible that I can think of. In fact as i was leaving a deli in Woodstock yesterday, a lady u had been talking to while waiting for our lunch ti be prepared saw my front plate in my vehicle. She turned and said “Thank you for your service”

    2) the food across the board was CHEAPER than North Carolina. And I bought equivalent food at a similar high end market. And TAX free in top of that.

    3) Alchohol was cheaper by around 4-5 dollars per bottle for the same wine I drink back home. Even with the tax.

    4) Gas in the east side of the Hudson was expensive but I’ve paid more in Atlanta. However cross over to the west side and the price per gallon was only slightly higher than u pay back home.

    5) bridge tolls no big deal including on the Thruway. Can’t speak for the Big Apple. I’ve stayed well clear.

    6) however…. universally everyone was complaining about the property taxes. The old farm house built in the early 1700’s where I first remember living in. Rural orchard country had a property tax assessed of 10 times what u paid on a big historical hine in NC. But the overall house prices were nothing I’d gag at. For really nice historical architecturally significant homes. I talked to an architect in Woodstock who had married an old elementary school classmate. We talked about her old family estate and mansion. Which was massive on large property up above Woodstock.. the family sold it about 25 years ago. Subsequent owners have restored it apparently back to its original splendor. Is appraised at $5 million. I telling you it’s a huge Spanish style hacienda 40 foot ceilings, tile everywhere one bath is all copper still in the house. By reference our old house in Hidden Hills Ca nice house was last sold for $4.6 million.

    7) I have to stress how everybody ive met total strangers, shop clerks, station attendants, toll booth collectors., walk up to houses I used to know was a kid, if home the owners would be very open and talkative. Swapping emails and phone #’s.

    8) most roads were in good repair. Same as the roads I traveled on in NJ HOWEVER, the absolute worst roads across the board, all roads highway, rural city PA beat you and your car to death. The PA government must be skimming road money and diverting it away from where it was intended or officials and contractors embezzled the vast majority of the funds.

    If it wasn’t for the property taxes I very much like to move back. Snow included. I can hibernate and ignore Cuomo but can’t ignore taxes.

    I can not speak for eating out. But the deli lunch was as good and ample as anywhere with an average price. I asked where I could get a loaf of good Jewish rye.. there was a bakery right up the street. The deluge got just pointed behind me. He said ours is better and FAR cheaper. The loaf was $1 less expensive than in my bakeries back home. And excellent in flavor apparently the bakery up main street in Woodstock is a boutique bakery putting on airs.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Even town officials in Woodstock were very helpful in finding people I was looking for. Every direction or advice recommendation by everyone was accurate. Some recommendations were so good i was compelled to go back and thank them.

  43. Saw this and immediately thought of Mathius 😛

  44. Canine Weapon says:

  45. Canine Weapon says:

    (2nd attempt)

    • I’d be in traction if I had to march like that 😀 It’s better than the Iranians march, with their little fart hop 😀 😀

  46. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/the_speech_theyre_trying_to_hide_president_trumps_stellar_un_speech.html

    This speech didn’t get near enough coverage. Meet Trump, without the media’s nasty interpretations.

  47. I’ve been sitting shiva for the third day, over having to put my second dog down in two years. Reading along, gritting my teeth, with no energy to even jump in. Reading as Mathius describes what he calls his lunatic friends, using words like:

    “a cult following
    abhorrent.
    sadist”

    But instead of leaving it at that, he tattoo’s the name POT on his own forehead..

    “Pissing us off for the sake of pissing us off, and then smiling….is just plain fucked up.
    That is NOT how a healthy, well-adjusted, sane adult behaves
    pathetic”

    So now, I’ll sit back, and wait for his meltdown over Trump’s tweets for today and drink my abhorrent, sadistic juice…and not feel the least bit bad about it.

    😡

    • At least you are not sitting in the dark for no good reason at all. Our power went out at 1am Wed. No wind at that time. Still no significant wind at the house. Our land line was dead this am so I guess the AT&T batteries ran down. Got the generator working so I can keep the frig and freezer cold. Cooking on the grill. May fire up the smoker this weekend. The need to do a 100% inspection of the lines before restoring power so this could last several more days. If we do not have power by Saturday, then the wife will miss the PSU-Iowa game. PSU football is one of the few things she looks forward to. This is the life we live in Kommiefornia.

    • Sorry about your loss Anita. Losing a family member is always tough, even the one’s with fur.

  48. Just A Citizen says:

    I am thinking this person should never be allowed to write an “opinion piece” ever again. He should be reassigned to a coal mine in China.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/09/politics/elizabeth-warren-pregnancy-discrimination-sexism/index.html

    • This is the problem with the Liberal media, pretending to be journalists. Warren is being refuted because of HER own words, nothing made up. I also do not remember HRC having a bout of pnemonia during the campaign, so as of now, thats seems to be a lie. These 0eople are intellectually dishonest and should be shamed at every turn. Liars, the whole damn lot of them.

  49. Maybe someone can help explain some things. Exactly WHAT has Trump done that is impeachable? All the idiocy coming from the Left fails to provide any logical claim of an impeachable offense. The Ukraine issue has blown up in their faces, yet these losers keep ignoring the facts. Outside of the brainwashed who believe Pelosi and Schiff, I would believe most Americans know it’s all theater with no basis of truth.

    Trump 2020 😛
    Eric Trump 2024 😀 😛

  50. Just A Citizen says:

    I missed the headlines on CNN and MSNBC and CBS and NBC and ABC and, and, and, over this issue.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/air-force-concludes-stays-at-trump-scotland-resort-were-not-in-violation-of-anything

  51. Just A Citizen says:

    A bit wordy but a good example of how we are manipulated by politicians claiming to be with us when in fact they really do not care. Note: Whether he, Cotton, actually cares is not known yet. The author just points out how what he has done fits a pattern. It is this pattern that we should watch for. Like, Obamacare needs to be repealed, except when we could repeal it.

    https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/10/10/dear-tom-cotton-please-dont-play-failure-theater-recalcitrant-ic-ig/

  52. Test

  53. Ok…..Sorry it took so long to get back on Turkey,,,,,Here is what I have gleaned from the briefings…..the non classified ones.

    We have a total of 1,184 troops over there that are mixture of combat and support troops. Our primary function was to facilitate the training and growth of the Kurds, whom support us against various warring factions in the ME. Syria has sensed weakness in the US from the stand point the Ergodan knows there is no resolve in the current Congress. He (Erdogan) is moving while Trump is embattled. I have seen nothing nor have I been made aware of any “special deal” made with the US and Turkey. We, the US, received word that Turkey was going to invade the Northern Syian area and if we did not want our troops hurt….we needed to get out immediately. We did not have a sufficient fighting force in place to counter any type of Turkish invasion. We, the US, do know the exact intent of Turkey as that has been made plain. The intent is the re-location of 4 million souls back to Syria. We also know that Turkey will make a deal with ISIS to protect the Turkish border in return for not joing any alliance to disprupt ISIS. In exchange, we know that Turkey will free the 200 thousand ISIS fighters in prison being held by the Kurds.

    So, the US pulls out and will give support to the Kurds but the Democrats in Congress has already said that they would not fund this fight.

    The US will leave about 150 Special Forces with the Kurds but we will not protect Syria from attack. So, the long and short of it………if Turkey wants (and they do) to get rid of the Kurds, we will not intervene to stop them. The Kurds will go the way of our Montgnard allies of long ago. It will be genocide.

    Trump has no choice in the matter so he will make as much political hay out of it as he can. It is not a stupid decision no matter what the pundits say.

    Here is the real question………………….Does the United States have a legitimate reason to be in the Middle East?

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Well that would kind of depend on how you define “US interests” and/or “US Goals”, wouldn’t it?

  54. Equine Weapon says:

    Not to be overly political, but are you guys aware that Fox News carries almost no news at all about foxes?

  55. U.S.—A new study found that support for impeaching President Trump would rise significantly if someone, anyone could just tell people what crime Trump is supposed to have committed.

    Republicans and many independents are stubbornly resisting the impeachment inquiry, as though you have to have some kind of reason to impeach the president. Democrats oppose this logic, saying that impeaching a president who insists on being Trump is a constitutional duty. Many Americans are just kind of confused by the whole thing and are waiting for something more interesting to come on TV.
    “Impeachment is polling pretty strong just goin’ on emotion and stuff,” said one pollster, “but man, if we could point to some kind of impeachable offense, the numbers would go way, way up. We’re talking very strong support once there is a crime to impeach for.”
    “Man, if we could just find that Trump, like, secretly nuked Canada or something—that would be the smoking gun,” he added wistfully.
    A small minority of Americans said they would support Trump even if there ends up being a clear, blatant high crime exposed, though this demographic was almost entirely made up of televangelists and Seb Gorka.

  56. SUFA Poll……………..Does the United States, in your individual opinions, have a legitimate AND logical reason for being in the ME?

    • “Legitimate”: Maybe.

      (That maybe can be summed up thusly: “Israel.”)

      “Logical”: Maybe.

      (That maybe can be summed up thusly: “oil.”)

      being in the ME?

      The above answers may vary depending on your definition of “being in the ME.”

      • Uh oh,,,,,,don’t get me going on this one……..What legitimacy is there in supporting Israel? Or even defending Israel? Because the UN, under the guidance of the United States did what you hate? Drew a line in the sand…..an imaginary boundary and thus proclaimed this is soverign territory?

        • What legitimacy is there in supporting Israel?

          Well, let’s see what I can come up with…

          A) they’re a strategic ally (see, again, “oil”)

          B) I’d rather not witness a Jewish genocide.

          Because the UN, under the guidance of the United States did what you hate? Drew a line in the sand…..an imaginary boundary and thus proclaimed this is soverign territory?

          Yea, I’m not crazy about closed borders, as you know.

          But I’m also not crazy about genocide.

          Neither am I crazy about Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians.

          It’s FUBAR.

          ::shrug::

          As I said… “maybe.”

          • Just A Citizen says:

            What legitimacy is there in supporting ANY OTHER COUNTRY???????????????????

            We are living with the foreign policy created by interventionists prior to and after WWII. Those people who CREATED the theory that if the US is not engaged, economically, politically and militarily, around the world another Hitler will appear and we will be in WW III.

            Yet these same people did not have the stomach, nor did US Citizens, to stop the Soviets from invading eastern Europe. Nor to stop Mao from running our Ally out of mainland China.

            So is this theory really valid? Is it really enough of a threat for us to be involved in things like NATO to supposedly protect our FRIENDS from invasion by “others”????? Does our “involvement” actually prevent a larger problem, such as invasion of allies by bad actors????

            Now we should ask if this is really the reason for our presence around the world today. Is it about preventing the next Hitler like invasion? Or are we really protecting other interests, which nobody is willing to explain to the people. You know, so WE could decide if that was worth the cost or not.

            I have often said this starts with morality and ethics, and that we need to choose those wisely. Well this warning applies to all other things which come later. Like our International Goals and Objectives. That which is “our national interest”. Choose wisely or suffer the consequences of all prior Empires.

            • What legitimacy is there in supporting ANY OTHER COUNTRY???????????????????

              Amazingly, we are not the only country on Earth.

              Isolationism might have worked back when we had an ocean that could protect us and the internet was not a thing that existed. But in the modern world, that thinking no longer works.

              Those people who CREATED the theory that if the US is not engaged, economically, politically and militarily, around the world another Hitler will appear and we will be in WW III.

              Well, so far, no modern Hilter has appeared.

              Or are we really protecting other interests, which nobody is willing to explain to the people.

              Of course we are. The US is playing all KINDS of games with global geo-politics. I bet if all of SUFA really put their heads together and even added in g-man’s wildest conspiracy theories, we could only barely scratch the surface of what the CIA et al are actually up to.

              I’d be willing to bet that they don’t even tell the Executive branch about 99% of it.

              Choose wisely or suffer the consequences of all prior Empires.

              It’s a fair point, but I’d argue that by virtually ANY reasonable metric, life is better for Americans than at any point in history. And it’s better for most of the world, too.

              It might not FEEL that way, but things ARE getting better and better and better and better and better. It definitely doesn’t feel that way. But it IS that way. Life expectancy, literacy, wealth, child hunger, preventable diseases, all of it… getting better. ::pointedly omits any discussion of Climate Change::

  57. Open Letter to Progressives and Democrats….either you have the votes for impeachment or you do not………GET ON WITH IT…..vote to impeach or get off the pot. The longer you take and the more headlines and vitriol you put out, the more you are alienating the voters…..poop or move.

    • Keep harrassing red hats and Trump supporters. Keep throwing urine and burning hats and t shirts….keep calling us Nazis and such…keep it up…….by the way, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE come and try that here…..P PP P P PPPPPPPPPPPLEASE….

    • I mean… they’re trying to have an inquiry here… shouldn’t they get the evidence before voting..?

      and the more headlines and vitriol you put out, the more you are alienating the voters

      Maaaybe….

      This would be more accurately states as the more alienate Trump’s BASE. Voters in genera appear to be far more sympathetic to the Democrats in this fight.

      That said, if it drags on too long and doesn’t produce anything… well.. that doesn’t go well.

      • I mean… they’re trying to have an inquiry here… shouldn’t they get the evidence before voting..? No sir……………everything that I have read that I can get my hands on about the rules of impeachment…..you do NOT have the right to drop a fishing line in the water.

        There is only one reason that there is no impeachment vote…..because once it is formal, the Republicans can issue their own subpeonas…right now they are barred.

        • I mean… they’re trying to have an inquiry here… shouldn’t they get the evidence before voting..? Do you agree that denying the Republicans cross examination and discovery taints the credibility of the evidence in an inquiry? Do you NOT get to face your accuser in an inquiry? Is not the reason for an inquiry to get to the truth?

          Oh, sorry…..truth is a noun…..”that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.”

        • you do NOT have the right to drop a fishing line in the water.

          YOU seem to think that.

          I think that’s how it SHOULD be.

          But I can’t support your assertion from a legal perspective.

          Do you agree that denying the Republicans cross examination and discovery taints the credibility of the evidence in an inquiry?

          Yes.

          Do you NOT get to face your accuser in an inquiry?

          Yes.

          Is not the reason for an inquiry to get to the truth?

          Well, I mean… you know… it SHOULD be the reason… in a perfect world.

          But we don’t live in that world, now do we?

          Oh, sorry…..truth is a noun…..”that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.”

          FALSE

          Truth is whatever Trump says it is. There is no Truth but what he wills to be so.

    • Justified!!!

      • This’ll wind up before SCOTUS, methinks… we shall see. I need to dig into it a bit deeper before I feel competent to opine on the question of whether this is “justified.” I will say – at first blush, it FEELS more like an argument to rally the base and frame the inquiry as a witch hunt than it is a legal argument.

        That the inquiry IS a nakedly partisan effort to sabotage Trump and/or the 2020 election doesn’t change the question of whether congress is acting within its authority. I suspect that they are within their authority, though, again, I will have to dig more before I can say that with much confidence. That would place this firmly within the realm of “lawful but awful.”

        That Trump is now overtly balking may be within his rights… or it may not. Again, I need to do a bit more homework. If the former then, well, whatever. If the later, then I’d have to coin a new phrase for “unlawful but sympathetic.”

        • Is that not what all lawsuits are? Argument? I have done the research as far as I know where to go…..this is actually unprecendented….I can find no inquiry on Nixon or Clinton…..not like this.

          The Dems want to hide the so called leaker……errr,,,,,whistleblower and forever protect them from discovery, cross examination, and identity if a formal impeachment vote is taken and passed. This is contrary to any formal jurisprudence that I have ever seen. To keep a witness from cross examination is…..well….how would Mathius say it……………………..STUPID!!!

          • It’s still early… let’s see how this shapes up. There’s no way they can impeach him without giving his allies the ability to cross examine and subpeona and discovery. Even the Dems know they can’t get away with that.

            As I said, I have some reading up to do, so I won’t say anything definitive yet.

            But I WILL say this… as with Nixon, it’s not necessarily the crime but the cover-up. Trump may be in the clear on this Ukraine thing (or least, a legally defensible position). But if he buts heads with congress to the point of open defiance of their lawful orders….. that could be an impeachable offense on it’s own.

            And I get how messed up that would be.. “I did nothing wrong and in trying to defend myself from being hanged by a kangaroo court, I committed a violation that justified hanging me in a kangaroo court.” But, well, there you have it. ::shrug::

            That said, I don’t buy for a second that he “did nothing wrong.” He may not have done anything legally wrong, but he’s using his foreign policy powers to maliciously taint his political opponent and even if that’s technically legal, I’ll never not see that as an abuse of his position.

            • I’m not sure why this is even an issue anymore. Once the transcript of the call was released, the whistleblower(s) mean nothing, it’s moot. Having read the transcript, I don’t see anything at all wrong. Even Obama would be in the clear.

              Opinion: There will not be an Impeachment. It’s all political theater trying to get ahead of some reports coming out that may not be very good for the Crats and those who abused the FISA warrant system, amongst other things. Pelosi is finished, Trump beat her when he released the transcript before the fake whistleblowers complaint was released. They have NOTHING in regards to Ukraine.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Remember, an impeachment trial is held by the Senate. And as I understand it, that trial is conducted on the basis of the evidence developed by the House and included in the House Articles of Impeachment.

              So unless the Dems start holding bipatisan committee hearings and stop selectively leaking what they want from those hearings, all the evidence they present will be tainted. Of course there is not a Trump hater in the country who will care. They will rationalize this as being justified. Because to the left, the ends always justify any means necessary.

              • Of course there is not a Trump hater in the country who will care.</b

                Excuse me?

                I believe I have well and truly established myself as a "Trump hater," have I not?

                And I very much DO care that they do this right.

                They will rationalize this as being justified. Because to the left, the ends always justify any means necessary.

                Take that opinion and file it away appropriately.

                I am so goddamned sick of this bullshit left-vs-right narrative you and gman are always pushing wherein the “left” are these evil Machiavellian win-at-all-cost nihilists and the right are just innocent victims of our dastardly behavior.

                The left believes in the rule of law, too. We believe that there is good reasons to suspect that Trump is openly flaunting the law and profiteering from the Presidency and using his office to solicit foreign aid in the 2020 election. We believe that a significant portion of Trump’s base on the right are so hell-bent on “winning” and “sticking it to those snowflake cuck libtards” that they’ll say or do anything to back up their leader as long as he keeps pissing off and pissing on the left. And, while we want him removed from office, we want it done properly or not at all.

                If our elected leaders are shit, well, they’re shit. So are the right’s. Politicians suck. Ask any random liberal if they want Trump removed “by any means necessary” and you’ll never get a yes unless you’re talking to an absolute moron or fanatic or someone who didn’t understand the implications of the question. Ask them if they support a biased impeachment hearing wherein Trump can’t get a fair trial. Go on. Ask one. Ask a hundred. Not one will support the idea. The only people backing that are radicals, morons, and politicians. So stop painting “the left” with that broad brush.

                You’ll note that I try to do you the kindness of not painting the whole “right” with the brush of your worst people. Have you ever seen me assert that “the right are a bunch of idiotic gun-toting, bible-thumping, conspiracy theorists whose sole ideology is to screw everyone else and give tax cuts to the rich which fucking over the environment and the poor.” Do you see me saying things like that? You know why you don’t? Because I do you the courtesy of not lumping your entire “side” in with your work elements.

              • And who the hell, do you think we’re talking about. Try the “. radicals, morons, and politicians” that currently make up the democrats power structure. Look at the people on the Democrat side who are running for President, that have a chance of winning and tell me I’m wrong. Their friggin nuts. And you know it.

              • V.H.

                The inmates are, indeed, running the asylum.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Mathius

              I have been quite clear over the years what I mean by “LEFT”. I did not use Democrat for a reason.

              So take your tired of this bullshit and stick it in the appropriate file.

  58. Trump also said Biden had only been successful as vice president because “he understood how to kiss Barack Obama’s ass.”

    That should piss off a lot of people. At least he can’t be accused of lying 😛

    • .. says the guy whose VP still hasn’t answered questions about why he stayed at Trump’s golf resort in Ireland when it was ~200 miles away from his meetings …

      • Just A Citizen says:

        He gave a reason, you just ignored it because…………. you don’t believe it, and you don’t believe it because……………….you hate Trump. From Business Insider:

        “Mike Pence said it was ‘logical’ to stay at a Trump hotel 140 miles from his meetings in Ireland because he has a big security detail.” “”I understand political attacks by Democrats, but if you have the chance to get to Doonbeg you’ll find that it is a fairly small place,” he added.

        Doonbeg, a village of 200, is on the opposite side of Ireland to Dublin, where Pence flew to meet Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and Irish President Michael D. Higgins on Tuesday.”

        • you don’t believe it, and you don’t believe it because……………….you hate Trump.

          No, I don’t believe it because… it’s bullshit.

          You mean to tell me that it just so happened that the closest comfortable/secure location just so happened to be 140 180 miles away from the capital.. and owned by his boss?

          BULL.

          SHIT.

          That I don’t accept that is because it’s a giant steaming pile of bull shit. That’s roughly like staying in Boston for your meeting in New York. It’s a 3 hour drive if you do 60 the whole way.

          The logistics alone of the 6 hour round-trip – do you have any idea the kinds of logistics and expense and security and scouting that goes on when you move the President / VP? Sure, let’s add a 6 hour, 360 mile round trip that literally crosses the entire country because… “he has a big security detail”? Let’s also not forget the loss of Pence’s availability for meetings during that time.. there is no chance in hell it was the best option.

          But it WAS the only option for putting money into Trump’s pocket from the government expense account.

          What’s far more telling is the ease with which you are willing to throw out all common sense and suspicion and just blindly accept his explanation.

          This administration his a large pile of “it just so happens” that all conveniently keep enriching or otherwise helping Trump and yet you seem adamantly determined to see no pattern in any of it.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Thank you for once again making my point………….. The derangement in this strong it is.

            • I don’t think it’s “derangement” to call obvious bullshit out as obvious bullshit.

              I think it’s “derangement” when you lose all perspective and critical reasoning and just start accepting whatever the administration tells you is the truth.

              • The magazine identifies three main factors affecting Trump’s income and businesses:

                *New information revealed by journalists that shed doubt on Trump’s own claims about his money

                *Broader economic forces that have made the real estate and brick-and-mortar retail markets less propitious in recent years

                *Effects of Trump’s polarizing brand of politics on his businesses

                —-

                So… he’s losing money because he may not have had that money in the first place, his investments are bad, and people hate him… got it.

  59. https://www.infowars.com/leftist-mobs-attack-trump-supporters-leaving-minneapolis-trump-rally-burn-flags-riot-in-the-streets/

    Some interesting videos. I sure hope Trump has a rally close by, I’ll be there.

  60. Just A Citizen says:

    How do you make the world safe for Democracy? That being an old political cliche. Or how do you foster the spread of democratic forms of government. More specifically, those which recognize the rights of its citizens and at least tries to live up to that crede.

    Well the first thing you do is DO NOT let the tyrants and despots of the world export their citizens to other countries. Unless the population is hurting it will never rise up and demand change. By allowing “refugees”, that is “asylum seekers”, to spread to other places you allow those in power to maintain a majority support among the population.

    • Well the first thing you do is DO NOT let the tyrants and despots of the world export their citizens to other countries. Unless the population is hurting it will never rise up and demand change.

      An interesting proposition. And, honestly, it makes some sense… but then again…

      In the case of, say, China/Hong Kong… what happens when that means they simply murder all those would-be asylum seekers and harvest their organs for sale?

      • Just A Citizen says:

        More cheap stuff for Americans to buy??????????????

        • Therein lies the problem.

          Our demand for “cheap stuff” created China. Enabled China.

          I’d be surprised if we don’t see a US-backed attempt to overthrow the government of China in the next few years.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            SHOULD WE??? That is the question on the table. WHAT should our involvement in the world be????

            • SHOULD WE???

              … I…. don’t know…

              WHAT should our involvement in the world be????

              … I … don’t know…

              But I don’t think Isolationism is RIGHT or WISE.

              So, yes, I think we need to be out there.. but how much so… I don’t know.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Here is the thing. Most of them won’t actually seek asylum. They will more likely stay and fight the long fight, or shut up and accept the fate their countrymen have allowed to stand for so long.

  61. Still in the great CA Blackout of 2019. The richest state in the union and we cannot keep the lights on.

    Controlled fire up the hill from us is now out of control. So now it is smokey as well as dark.

    • Why don’t you guys just rake the forests like Finland? Then you wouldn’t have any problems.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Yes they would. Cause the problem isn’t litter on the forest floor. Hell it isn’t even forests for the most part. It is grass and brush……….and a totally EFFED up State Govt.

  62. Just A Citizen says:

    Now I must be gone for a few days. Don’t destroy the living room while I’m gone.

  63. Am I a member of “the left”? No Mathius, no you are not.

  64. So, Mathius……you say the you do not know what our position in and around the world should be…..that the internet and the technology has made this a world where isolationism and minding our own business is not passe’ any longer…..

    So, Syria moves to commit genocide of a certain (Kurd) ethnic minority….in Northern Syria and their own country…….do you feel that the United States should intervene? Should we intervene without NATO…without the UN?

    You see, I used the Israeli position as an example. Without the US…there would have been no Israel in the 1940’s…….you seem to think that it was necessary to prevent genocide…….so are your feelings of genocide consistent?

    • do you feel that the United States should intervene? Should we intervene without NATO…without the UN?

      Yes.

      Now, the million dollar question: HOW should we intervene.

      I certainly think that anyone who commits genocide cannot be a friend.

      I might, were I President outright blackball Turkey – no US investment, no trade, no travel, no aid. Zilch.

      Especially since this is not their first time.

      Fuck ’em.

      Then again, who knows? Not me.

    • To be clear, I’m leery of being the world’s police. But I’m also leery of standing by and doing nothing while people are being massacred. My people have a bit of history with that kind of thing, so we tend to be a bit touchy on the subject.

      PRESIDENT Mathius turns to his trusted colonel (now the highest rank in the military) and asks for options.

      • Canine Weapon says:

        PRESIDENT Mathius turns to his trusted colonel (now the highest rank in the military) and asks for options.

  65. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    An abysmal lack of knowledge of the area. Syria and Egypt were part of Nassar’s “United Arab Republic” They were both Soviet clients. Eventually after Nassar and after the two wars with Israel in 67 and 73, Egypt got with the program, made nice nice with us and with Israel. Syria did not. They remained a Soviet client through the collapse and are inked to Russia today. We, ain’t gonna change that.

    There seems to be some mistaken notion that the Kurds are Christian. They are not, they are tolerant Muslims. They are an ancient people whose old homeland has been subdivided into four countries.

    There is NO way to create a new Greater Kurdistan without the use of force, massive force. Turkey is teh descendent of teh old Ottoman Empire. I encourage you to look at a pre WW 1 map of that Empire. Turkey is a fraction of what it was and I cannot imagine that they still don’t smart over that.m There is no way in hell they will give up any more turf. Period!

    Nice piece below about one of our earliest FUBAR’s.

    https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/ricochet-when-a-covert-operation-goes-bad/

  66. Just A Citizen says:

    Got back and searched high and low for the blockbuster stories about the EX ambassador to Ukraine testimony on Friday.

    Is it safe to assume that all she had was whining about how Trump does business and it wasn’t fair she got canned???

  67. Went to visit a family member at the hospital last night. Had to show a photo id to visit a patient.

  68. So, the elimination of the Kurds has started……civilians, politicians, etc……….pulling Kurds out of cars and executing them on the spot………..who cares, they are Muslim afterall…..

    Wait, we can not let people go to Turkey…………….meanwhile the killing continues.
    Wait, we can economically isolate them………meanwhile the killing continues.
    Wait, we can suspend aid…….meanwhile the killing continues.
    Wait, no more investement…….meanwhile the killing continues.
    —————————————

    The UN will talk about it………………meanwhile the killing continues.
    NATO will not intervene………………meanwhile the killing continues.
    Russia will continue to supply Turkey………meanwhile the killing continues.
    China will continue to do trade with Turkey………..meanwhile the killing continues.
    —————————————-

    AS predicted, thousands of captured ISIS fighters have mysteriously been freed……meanwhile the killing continues
    —————————————-

    The United States Congress refuses to declare a state of emergency and will not authorize intervention……………meanwhile the killing continues.

    Bottom line……………the killing continues. I have been through this before……and the kiling continues.

    • I keep telling myself this issue is complicated because I know it is, but I don’t see any good coming from the decision to leave. What in your professional opinion should we be doing?

      • From my professional opinion………..There was no good in staying there as well. We should not be in Syria in the first place…it holds nothing for us.

        Let me ask you this…..from your lay position….why do you think it necessary to be there? What I am finding funny is how the Democrats were sying that Trump will start a war….we will get in a shooting match…………Let me see…….Obama started 3 wars…..Trump has started 0…

        Back to Syria….it is a European problem….let them figure it out. Kick Turkey out of NATO and be done with them. Let the Soviets and Chinese fight over Syria…..

        • It isn’t that I think we should be there. I thought we should have stayed out of another Countries civil war. Its that we are there, or we were. That makes us responsible, at least in part, for what is happening to the Kurds. But my lay position is a convoluted mess. It’s wrong to allow them to be killed but on the other hand etc, etc etc. I keep bringing it up because I’m not sure what is right or wrong in this situation of maybe there just isn’t a way to reach Right.

  69. Mathius asks: Then what am I
    ============================
    This is a question that I have pondered all weekend. Just exactly what are you? You are certainly not left………..not by today’s standards. The Democratic Party, like the Republican Party of the past, has been hijacked. The Democrats have been hijacked by a socialist movement and the normal liberal Democrats are either powerless to stop it or are afraid to speak out.

    Oh, you like to rattle and yank chains and pretend you are a “power to the people” person but you do not walk the walk. You are a capitalist as we all are. You are a family man, as we all are. You want the best medical you can give your family, as we all do. If you had the choice right now…..right this very minute, to drop your medical and get on social insurance, you will not do so because you know the outcome. You understand this.

    You will buy goods from China because they are cheap and get “on the rail” about tariffs but you will not buy a more expensive good, if you can avoid it. This makes you a capitalist. It makes you normal. It makes you cost wise. You will weigh the cost of an item to the quality of an item. This makes you……normal. (OMG)

    You will acquire all the wealth that you possibly can to protect your future and your family. You will provide the best shelter, the best quality of food, the best automobiles, take your family on vacation…….all the best that you can because you are a responsible parent and husband. This makes you …………normal. (OMG)

    You are not carrying signs, wearing masks, attacking red hats, throwing urine on people…..this makes you responsible………(OMG).

    You vote according to your pocketbook as we all do. You claim to not mind paying taxes, yet you complained when yours were raised. That makes you normal. We all understand that taxes are required, even those of us more conservative in thinking, and that taxes are necessary to run a country and provide for a common defense…..and you have stated many times that you want responsible spending….this makes you…..uh………….normal. (OMG)

    You have differing opinions on some things…..and that makes you……normal. (OMG).

    You rant about borders and that they should not be there but you are part of a culture that requires borders for survival and you support that…..that makes you….normal. You do not want your ox gored.

    Are you a more social program type? Yes, but that does not make you “left”. That makes you young and you will get smarter as the years tack on. You do not believe in deficit spending and want a balanced budget. You may have ideas of spending different than some but that is ok…..and that makes…………….you……………………normal. (OMG)

    So, Sir Mathius, as a Texan, I would welcome you with open arms down here….because you are doing the exact same things that most of us do. Your actions speak volumes.
    ———————————————————–

    • Hell…..you even have an alter ego that keeps you in check……

    • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

      but you will not buy a more expensive good, if you can avoid it.

      Well of course not… he’s Jewish!

    • You claim to not mind paying taxes, yet you complained when yours were raised.

      That’s not exactly true.

      I said I don’t mind paying more taxes.. but I resent being targeted for higher taxes so that the ultra rich can be given tax breaks.

      My bracket is the richest bracket that also has no real political power.

      Can’t tax the rich or the ultra rich.. they’re the donor class.

      Can’t tax the middle class.. (A) they’re legion and will slaughter you politically and (B) they don’t have a ton of money.

      Can’t (really) tax the poor.. they don’t have any money to give.

      Who does that leave? The merely “well off” to “very well off”.. the 5%-ers to 2%-ers. We’re like a goddamned piggy bank. We get hit by virtually every tax and fee known to man, but get exactly none of the perks that literally every other class gets. Every tax aimed at the rich hits us disproportionately harder, every loophole is just out of reach. The only exceptions are the estate tax and taxes on yachts.

      And, of course, this has the added bonus of establishing a moat around the 1%-ers.. but I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.

      ——

      I also think that, while the SALT exemption should have been eliminated – I do! – I think it was a political decision by the right to screw the left (read Hillary supporters). I think the conversation went: “can we raise taxes in a way that predominately only hurts Blue Team” and the answer was “You betcha!” so they did it.

      So, even while I agree with the action, I am pissed off at the motivation. It’s entirely possible to be right for the wrong reasons.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        So your are angry at a motivation that only exists in your head. No proof of such motivation has ever been produced. And by the way, it applies to people the same in every state. You blue blooded New Yorkers are not the only one’s with high property taxes. Well I take that back. It is mostly the out of state refugees from California and the East Coast who have those high tax bills here as well. But that is justice for trying to Gentrify an entire region of the country.

        • So your are angry at a motivation that only exists in your head. No proof of such motivation has ever been produced.

          Nor WILL it ever be produced.

          I can’t prove it. But it sure is awfully convenient the speed and efficacy they displayed to raise taxes on blue states/cities whereas they can’t seem to pull their heads out of their asses on pretty much anything else.

          The Red Team got into power and, with amazing efficiency, cut taxes for the rich while raising them (predominantly) for Blue areas. The result, yet again, lands on the well-off-but-not-rich. We don’t get the benefit of the cuts for the rich, but we do get hit with the full brunt of the loss of SALT-deductions. How convenient.

          And by the way, it applies to people the same in every state.

          No, it bloody well does not.

          This massively disproportionately affects BLUE states and BLUE cities. And, on balance, the bluer the more so.


          Flip that title text around and it reads “Who does eliminating the SALT deduction hurt?” Boy, that sure looks like a map of “where to the Democrats live,” doesn’t it? Sure, almost everyone gets dinged, but who gets it the worst? I’m sure it’s just coincidence that the REPUBLICANS so quickly passed a bill that so effectively raises taxes on the Cali coast and the NY/CT/NJ corridor and most urban areas.. you know, where all the Democrats live?

          This cost me, personally, around 8-10k last year.

          But that is justice for trying to Gentrify an entire region of the country.

          You WILL be gentrified.

          Resistance is useless.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            It is hilarious how you claim separate groups now for the “well off but not rich” and the “rich” when ya’ll are in the upper 5%. Cry me a river.

            Your argument is a fallacy in that you compare people with money to states that are blue. So your argument in the future will also have to be “they are after the blue states” when Congress passes more taxes on the Rich. Because as you said many times, the rich live in the blue states.

            • Your argument is a fallacy in that you compare people with money to states that are blue. So your argument in the future will also have to be “they are after the blue states” when Congress passes more taxes on the Rich. Because as you said many times, the rich live in the blue states.

              It’s a progressive tax.

              That’s why it’s a GOOD thing.

              In fact, it’s a WELL-TARGETED progressive tax which hits the rich the most and the poor the least.

              That’s why I support it – even while knowing that they did it for political reasons to raise taxes while minimally hurting themselves.

              My objection, again, is not to the progressive tax. It’s to the fact that it was coupled with extra breaks for the rich-rich. So it’s progressive… but ON-NET, it doesn’t include the rich. So it’s just progressive enough to stop and hurt my bracket (the piggy bank bracket) the most without doing too much harm to the precious donor-class or, again, most of the Republican base.

    • You vote according to your pocketbook as we all do.

      And yet, I keep holding my nose and voting for Blue Team. Why is that?

      • And yet, I keep holding my nose and voting for Blue Team. Why is that? Simple….blue team is pro regulation…that benefits your industry.

        • Simple….blue team is pro regulation…that benefits your industry.

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    • Are you a more social program type? Yes, but that does not make you “left”. That makes you young and you will get smarter as the years tack on.

      Well, I’ve been on here since I was 26.. have I moved right yet?

      I’d also add that my father, age 66, is still just as far left as he ever was. He is confidently predicting a Trump loss in ’20. Doesn’t seem like tracking right is a universal law…

      • Never said it was a universal law…..I seriously doubt that your father follows AOC and her bunch….or Elizabeth Warren and her movement. It would not be beneficial, even to a Jew.

        • It would not be beneficial, even to a Jew.

          I think that’s the thing you’re missing about how I vote.

          TRADITIONALLY, I have had two general options (A) I vote for my personal interests and against what I think is best for society / the world or (B) I vote for what’s best for society / the world and against my personal interests.

          A, of course, is the Republicans. Generally speaking, they are for lowering my taxes, for simplifying regulations, for pro-business positions which help my investments and the investments of my funds, and so on. This is good for me, personally. But simultaneously, they have been wrong on every major social issue of my lifetime, anti-science, anti-intellectual, pro-coal, anti-choice, climate change denial, flat earth, etc etc etc. They also tend to be war-mongers.

          B, of course, is the Democrats. Generally speaking, they want to tax me to hell and screw my entire industry. They are bad for me. BUT they’re good better for society, good better for the actual long-term health and stability of the economy and the world. (yea, I know you’d disagree, but this is MY view, not yours).

          So if A wins, it’s good for me and I just have to deal with the world / society suffering. If B wins, it’s good for the world and society but I suffer. Between those two options, I choose B.

          It’s win-lose or lose-win.

          I DON’T vote for what’s “beneficial” to me. I vote for what’s “beneficial” to the overall society. I vote AGAINST my own interests.

          It wasn’t until Trump came along that I got the option of voting for someone who is simultaneously bad for me AND society / the world.

    • So, Sir Mathius, as a Texan, I would welcome you with open arms down here….because you are doing the exact same things that most of us do. Your actions speak volumes.

      I spent nearly 45 minutes in Texas once. My plane touched down for a transfer. I wasn’t even off the plane before a flight attendant shoved a 10 gallon hat on my head and strapped on a bandoleer with a six-shooter. Then, before I could get back on the next flight, someone came and took them away, just as I was getting used to them.

      I’ll tell you, Tex, you live in a strange place.

    • Are you a more social program type? Yes, but that does not make you “left”.

      Then how the heck are we defining “left” versus “right”?

      • Then how the heck are we defining “left” versus “right”? Would it not be interesting to see where the “political definition” of left and right came…..I am a conservative. I do not define it as left or right nor do I define it as Republican or Democrat. As I have said many times, I have NEVER…EVER….voted a straight party ticket. I vote the person and not the party. I have voted for many a Democrat because they were conservative in thinking. or more conservative thinking that a Republican.

        So, I wonder where it came from…fun question.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Colonel

          “Would it not be interesting to see where the “political definition” of left and right came…”

          It came from categorizing of the French Parliament. When facing the legislators the “liberals” sat on the left and the “conservatives” or “reactionaries” sat on the right. As far as anyone has uncovered this is the source of left = liberal and right = conservative.

          However, the “conservatives” of that time were those supporting the Monarchy. The Liberals were supporting democratic reforms. So applying the same to the US at that time, would have made the USA predominantly left wing liberals. The only differences were the degree of liberalism. That is the difference between the Hamiltonian Federalists and the Jeffersonian Democratic-Republicans.

          Fast forward to the 60’s. The socialists and anarchist socialists started calling themselves “liberals” as part of their marketing the new radical ideas. Mix that up with civil rights movements and you get a totally confused public. What was called Progressive became Liberal. And what was Liberal soon became the Conservative viewpoint.

          • I did not know that, and since yesterday was my birthday (71), it proves the addage that you are never too old to learn new things.

            • Now, JAC already knows this…..Yesterday, Oct 13 was my birthdate…..it also happens to be the birthdate of spousal unit….which also happens to be our anniversary date…..I will NEVER forget the anniversary and the birth date…..consequently, one gift covers all. How is that for logistical planning?

              • To take it further…..since we all celebrate the same days…..the gift is for both of us to enjoy…so, it would be a great gift. My spousal unit got a brand new A 400 Beretta 20 guage shotgun, and I got a A 400 Beretta 12 guage shotgun. Since this is Texas…..what would be more fitting?

              • Yesterday, Oct 13 was my birthdate…..

                HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

                it also happens to be the birthdate of spousal unit….

                HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

                which also happens to be our anniversary date

                HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!

                consequently, one gift covers all. How is that for logistical planning?

                I’m jealous. My wife is impossible to buy for. And I have to do anniversary then birthday back to back..

            • I was born a year and 4 days before you but I am only 39. (New Math)

  70. Happy COLUMBUS DAY!

    • exxxcuuuuuse me…..what happened to Happy Indegenous Person Day?

      • They’re not happy

        • I don’t know why they are not happy….after all we disarmed them, put them on reservations, gave them food and trinkets, blankets…..lots of booze and turned them into lazy drunkards living off welfare…….then we allow them casinos on their own land and no Federal income taxes, no gasoline taxes and made them all millionaires……..

    • It’s been interesting over the last several years watching the shift away from celebrating “Columbus” the “great explorer” in popular culture.

      He was, of course, a genocidal mass-murderer. But the popular narrative never included that minor inconvenient detail.

      He also wasn’t the first European to set foot in America. The Vikings beat him by half a millennium. But the popular narrative never included that minor inconvenient detail, either.

      I think it’s more a question of celebrating an idealized, personified version of “the spirit of discovery and the intrepid human spirit” or something along those lines. Insisting on context and realism is contrary to this celebration. We aren’t really celebrating Columbus.. we’re celebrating what he represents in our cultural mind’s eye.

      Of course, few historical figures would be saints by today’s standards, but even by the standards of his day, Columbus was regarded as particularly callous and inhumane.

      All that’s to say that the movement to shift to “indigenous people’s day” or some such is interesting. Take the celebration of a mass-murder of indigenous people and change it into the celebration of those same indigenous people. But where does that leave the celebration of the “spirit of exploration”?

      I would suggest that, given another 15 years, the Progressives will abolish Columbus and he will take his place in popular culture as the monster he was.. who just so happened to also be the one to re-discover America. It’s a loss of a cultural icon, but I think truth is good, regardless.

      So, again, where does that leave the celebration of the “spirit of exploration”? I humbly suggest we designate July 16th, the date of the moon landing, to be a replacement holiday. Sure, it’s tainted by the Cold War, but to my knowledge, no member of Apollo 11 ever murdered anyone.

      • Happy COLUMBUS DAY!

      • Ahhh…..Mathius trying to prove to me he is……..progressive. Of course, history does note the discovery of the America’s by the vikings….who were nototrious murderers. They killed everything they looked at including misbehaving children of their own.

        Let’s see….so you want to change Columbus Day because he was a mass murderer of indigenous people to commerate the mass murderering indiginous people who murdered other tribes for conquests and slaves. Soooooo, other than they were here first, is there relevance somewhere?

        • I’m pretty sure I didn’t suggest any such thing.. only noting that the progressives are going to win the fight… eventually.

          And that, when they do, we can celebrate the moon landing instead.

          Well, that and linking to a video of a Bull Aldrin socking a conspiracy theorist in the mouth…

          • Ahhh, yes, I forgot about the conspiracy of not landing on the moon.

            • The thing is, we left a retro-reflector up there. anyone can point a sufficiently powerful laser up at the moon, wait approximately a second, and then pick up the bounce-back with a sufficiently advanced receiver array. It’s not exactly “back yard science,” but it’s maybe high school physics club level.

              If you care soooo much about the subject that you’re going to track down and harass Buzz Aldrin (and get duly punched in the mouth), just go buy some equipment and test it out for yourself.

              —————–

              Interestingly, Buzz was never charged with Battery…

              Those charges, of course, were dropped a short time later when the LA County District Attorney’s office found that the totality of the evidence suggested the encounter was instigated by Aldrin’s so-called victim, and that a jury would be unlikely to declare the legendary Apollo astronaut guilty in court.

              While, of course, I personally applaud Buzz and his wonderful right hook, it was battery. I mean, it just was. The guy wasn’t a physical threat – Aldrin could have walked away. It doesn’t matter what he was saying, you don’t have the right to punch another person who isn’t a threat to you.

              But I can just imagine the DA looking at the case file and just saying “nope… nope… nope nope nopenopenope… I am not going to arrest Buzz Aldrin … NOPE.”

              • Just A Citizen says:

                Some people just need killin.

                Others just need a punch in the mouth.

              • It doesn’t matter what he was saying, you don’t have the right to punch another person who isn’t a threat to you. This from a person who has, in the past, said that words and actions matter? You once said words can be interpreted as a threat.

                I do not subscribe to the theory that you have to let the first person throw a punch. If you square off with me and I interpret your words and actions as threatening, you will be punched. (Except I do not punch people in the face or head…it hurts the hand…I prefer palm strikes and back fists to selected areas)….I do NOT subscribe to the theory of “duty to retreat” and I never will subscribe to that theory.

                That said, I had to go back and look at the reports and things. Back then, there was no way any prosecuter is going after Buzz Aldrin….in today’s snowflake times…not so sure.

              • Mathius, you do not understand the older (WWI & KW) generation. They were raised to respond to insults. You did not call a person a bastard, SOB, liar without suffering the consequences. Dad was in the Army for two week before he realized that everyone was an SOB. There were many black eyes during those two weeks. At my Mom’s funeral, I started to ask my 88 year old uncle about some family history. He stopped and very clearly said that if I went any further he would have to deck me.

              • You once said words can be interpreted as a threat.

                Of course they can.

                “I’m going to shoot you.” That’s a threat. You are justified in treating it like a threat. If that includes punching me in the mouth, so be it.

                (You’re welcome to try, anyway, old man!)

                But the guy wasn’t threatening Aldrin. He was calling him a liar and challenging him to put his hand on a bible and swear that he’d gone to the moon.

                That’s assholic. Not threatening.

                ou did not call a person a bastard, SOB, liar without suffering the consequences.

                Sure you do.

                That’s called free speech.

                … ok, well… let’s modify that…

                You suffer the consequences.. those consequences being outcast, hated, mocked, derided, etc. Maybe you get a restraining order, maybe a charge for harassment.

                But if you aren’t being a physical threat, you can’t be hit.

                That’s just not how the law works. You have to be in danger in order to justify “protecting” yourself. Just being offended/angry/mad/insulted doesn’t give you standing to hit the other party, or there would be a lot more dead people than there are right now, and the world would be far more civil than it is.

                Come to think of it.. maybe that’s a good argument for changing the law….

                Dad was in the Army for two week before he realized that everyone was an SOB.

              • T-Ray,

                Mathius, you do not understand the older (WWI & KW) generation. They were raised to respond to insults.

                Be that as it may, the law does not agree with you. Nor does it make special allowances because you’re old.

                Hit someone who isn’t a credible physical threat to you and that’s battery.

                Full stop.

                Buzz Aldrin committed battery on video. And he got away with it because, well, because he’s Bull Aldrin.

                You bet the guy had it coming to him… and I’d have loved to see him drop like a stone, as he would have if Aldrin were a younger man.

                But that doesn’t change the fact that what Aldrin did was a crime.

                DISTRICT ATTORNEY Mathius would have, very sadly, charged him and then started making plans for his now-ruined career.

                JUROR Mathius would have, very sadly, convicted him.

                JUDGE Mathius would have given him the minimum possible sentence.

                CIVILIAN Mathius applauds the right hook and only wishes it had been a KO.

              • I can write all the laws I want that alligators are not allowed to bite people but if I stick my head ins his mouth, whose fault is it. Once again, young padawan, listen to your elders and learn something. Not all people are limp wristed coastal elites who go crying to mommy or the police every time they receive instant punishment for a transgression.

              • It’s not about being a “limp wristed coastal elite.”

                Some might even argue – and I’d be amongst them – that self restraint is a superior show of power. That allowing yourself to be provoked is the true weakness.

                But none of that changes the fact that the law is the law and the law is quite clear. “Insults” do not justify physical violence.

                Weren’t you a cop back in the day?

              • Each event is different in everyones eyes. It also depends on surroundings / event etc. I say, proceed with diligence and some caution, but if action is needed, make it fitting of the situation and dont stop until the perceived threat us no longer a threat.

                This poses a bigger challenge to the elderly. Such is life.

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          Has Matt watched “Apocalypto” ? Shows you everything you want to know about the idyllic native peoples (le bon sauvage) and it is backed by historical FACT.

          Your own Texan Comanch were an interesting and bloodthirsty people. TR Fehrenbach in both “Lone Star” and his book on the Comanche surprised me when he told us that they had scared the Apache off the plains and into the hills. We should celebrate indigenous peoples day in true Native American fashion. Pick a random stranger off the street, stake him out and build a barbeque on his chest. Or we could just stake him out cut off the tongue and his eyelids and let the ants get him. Now, what was that bad stuff Columbus did again?

          • Yes, the Comanche are/were notorious……even the Mescalero Apaches did not raid into comanche territory. There is a Texas legend (do not know the truth of it) that says a Sioux warrior once did something dreadful to a Comanche female…..the legend has it that the Comanche tribe did a 800 mile raid into Sioux country…..the Sioux never touched a Comanche again…….ever. The legend goes on to say that the Sioux tribes and the Comanche tribes of today do not talk or converse with one another.

          • Has Matt watched “Apocalypto” ? Shows you everything you want to know about the idyllic native peoples (le bon sauvage) and it is backed by historical FACT.

            He has.. he didn’t care for it.. not because of ideology, but it just wasn’t a very enjoyable movie.. personal opinion, I guess.

            Anyway, I’m not sure where you ever got the idea that I viewed native peoples as idyllic and super-peaceful, etc.

            I can say that Columbus was a genocidal mass-murderer without implying that the people he was genociding and mass-murdering were saints.

            We should celebrate indigenous peoples day in true Native American fashion. Pick a random stranger off the street, stake him out and build a barbeque on his chest. Or we could just stake him out cut off the tongue and his eyelids and let the ants get him.

            Yes. They did bad things.

            They also did NOT bad things.

            It’s not like the entirety of “native” culture(s) was savagery.

            It’s possible to applaud the good without condoning the bad. Just as I say “hey, it’s good that Columbus discovered America,” I can say “it’s bad that he killed all those people.” Likewise, I can say “native cultures are worth recognizing and celebrating” while also saying “but not those particularly nasty bits.”

            A thing doesn’t have to be 100% one way or 100% the other.

            Now, what was that bad stuff Columbus did again?

            For starters, he presided over the genocide of something like a 1/4 million natives. It got to the point where they started committing mass murder and poisoning their own children to save them from the Spaniards.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        He stayed, they didn’t.

  71. nototrious hmmm….must be something worse than notorious……or it could be no proof reading.

  72. So, Mathius, instead of us closing off our border with Mexico, President Trump decides to do what you have suggested we do instead of shooting and such……he places a call to Mexico, and says, stop the migration or we will impose greater sanctions…utilizing the best weapon we have…economics. So, Mexico, in need of the USD…is now stopping and returning to the Southern Border all caravans and migration northward. We don’t have to do it anymore…that should make all the Dems happy. No more border camps….my guys are falling asleep throwing rocks in the river. Only the occasional weapons cache and some drugs….most of the major activity has moved to Arizona and California.

    So Mexico decides to issue work visas and such to all immigrants coming into Mexico…only to take up to 10 months to process because of no vetting procedures….and the last bunch of immigrants came mostly from Africa….they get tired of waiting and the Mexican autorities let them start their trek northward only to tire them out and pick them up along the highways and send them back. Becoming very effective.

    I have always said right here on SUFA…..our strongest weapon over the nuke is money. Economics…very powerful. We should use it more.

    • President Trump decides to do what you have suggested we do instead of shooting and such

      Well, I mean.. better that than shooting people… but it’s still not what “I have suggested.” I have suggested throwing open the gates…

      utilizing the best weapon we have…economics.

      We don’t have any nukes left over?

      So, Mexico, in need of the USD…is now stopping and returning to the Southern Border all caravans and migration northward.

      That’s their prerogative. I liked it better when people could go where they wanted (more) freely.. but, hey, I’m not in charge of Mexico.

      that should make all the Dems happy. No more border camps

      Yes…. though, of course, what a lot of Democrats really wanted was something – anything – to hang around Trump’s neck like a millstone.

      But, you know, not caging babies is good, too.

      I have always said right here on SUFA…..our strongest weapon over the nuke is money.

      AH! You didn’t forget about the nukes… I thought you might be going senile on me in your old age..

      Economics…very powerful. We should use it more.

      With caution… use it too much or too aggressively and people start cutting economic ties for national defense / national sovereignty purposes. They diversify. Sure, it’s hard to get away from the US, especially when you live next door, but flog them enough with that particular stick and they’re going to find a way to be less dependent on you. Then you lose the leverage AND you loose the relationship AND you lose the economic benefits you gained from the relationship.

      This isn’t to say “don’t do it,” just… moderation, you know?

  73. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    Some of “Teddy’s” progressive ideas on initiative, referendum and recall. Now the bogeyman in his day were the predatory corporations and the court’s views on property rights, apparently including the human property of employees, but I see the piece as equally relevant today where the shoe is on the other foot. It is still “minority” rule in the courts and legislature over the will of the people. Note carefully, Teddy is talking about states and deliberately excludes the Federal Constitution. In another related piece he points out that I.R. & R. are being misused by radicals.

    https://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/the-right-of-the-people-to-rule/

  74. https://www.lifenews.com/2019/10/15/planned-parenthood-official-asserts-theres-a-right-to-kill-a-baby-who-survives-abortion/

    She doesn’t know how to answer that question. I think she does, she just doesn’t want to. Their pat answer has taken them a long way in their crusade to kill babies in the womb. Looks like it’s working to kill those who are born.

    • Your link supports no such conclusion.

      The seconds-long close-cropped snippet in the video shows her DODGING the question of post birth “abortion” (read murder).

      I would think that it should be very clear and easy to say “no, that’s not ok,” but I can see why, especially in direct testimony, a person might be instructed by their attorney to balk at any and all out-of-scope questions with “that decision should be between the patient and the health care provider.” That’s just another version of “no comment.”

      I went and found the actual interview. She said that over and over again.. not just to this question. The whole line of questioning, she pushed back with that.

      She wasn’t tacitly admitting anything, or “asserting there’s a right to kill a baby who survives an abortion.” She said that the decision is between other parties.

      Somehow this site took a variation of “that’s not my decision to opine on” and turned that into “hell yea, killing babies is all good.”

      • Wow, I think the abortion pushers will find the idea that their consistent support of abortion by claiming it should be a decision between the mother and the doctor, is the same as saying no comment, problamatic. I just think its funny. I also think their using the exact same argument, not to say killing a born child is wrong, is illuminating.

        • I think the abortion pushers will find the idea that their consistent support of abortion by claiming it should be a decision between the mother and the doctor

          That’s the think.. I don’t think she’s actually claiming anything.

          He’s saying “what happens in this case” and she’s saying “that’s between them.. it’s none of my business.”

          I also think their using the exact same argument, not to say killing a born child is wrong, is illuminating.

          Again, I see no harm in admitting the point.

          But I GUARANTEE you, she went through a rigorous training session with the lawyers before hand who instructed her very firmly on how to answer out-of-scope questions such as this.

          I’ve been there in SEC audits. I wasn’t allowed to answer questions on the weather… the weather. I actually had the following exchange once:
          SEC: how do you like all this snow?
          Mathius: On advice of counsel, I cannot answer that question. Please put your request in writing and we will respond accordingly.

          Absurd, I know. But that’s how it goes sometimes. We all had a good laugh over that, and the auditors understood, but I wasn’t going to get myself fired for saying that I dislike the cold weather.

          I’ll bet you the colonel has had similar experiences, too.

          It was almost certainly drilled into her skull to say that out-of-scope questions are between a woman and her doctor. Which, by the way, they are. That the answer is obvious (save the baby) doesn’t change the fact that it’s none of her business to answer that question. Answering questions beyond what you should is how you get yourself and your company into trouble.

          Here’s what PP had to say: “Last week, a panel of Florida state legislators demanded speculation about a vague set of extremely unlikely and highly unusual medical circumstances. Medical guidelines and ethics already compel physicians facing life-threatening circumstances to respond, and Planned Parenthood physicians provide high-quality medical care and adhere to the most rigorous professional standards, including providing emergency care. In the extremely unlikely event that the scenario presented by the panel of legislators should happen, of course Planned Parenthood would provide appropriate care to both the woman and the infant.”

          • I think there’s a fact you are missing. She is speaking as a representative of PP. So PP is saying it is between the mother and the doctor. She isn’t saying I can’t speak to that or it isn’t any of her business. She’s saying that’s Planned Parenthood’s policy.

            • Any chance you have the full transcript or video?

              • Found it!

                Seems pretty clear to me that she’s just being downright evasive. In fact, at one point a legislator even complains that he can’t get a straight answer. The comment section is full of people blasting her for not giving a straight answer.

                I think it’s biased to go from “won’t give a straight answer” to “official asserts there’s a right to kill a baby who survives abortion,” which is what that first link proclaims. A non-answer may imply support for the contrary, or it may not. But it definitely is not an overt assertion.

                She says her concerns involve something called the “surrender” language and a “transportation” mandate. I’m not entirely sure what either of those are. She also expresses a concern about how the language in this bill might be extrapolated to other areas of abortion legislation. That’s probably a reasonable concern.

                She does NOT say she’s objecting to the idea of mandating life support for post-birth infants. In fact, she DOES say that she’d like to be in a position to remove her objection to the legislation, which seems to imply that she doesn’t have an objection to the bill in general, but rather just specific components which may have broader implications. A bill can be a good bill, but contain a few bad provisions which make the whole unpalatable.

                Of course, it’s hard to know anything given that she didn’t really answer anything. But I just don’t see how that translates to “asserting a right.”

                VH: Is murder bad?
                Mathius: I’m not answering that.
                VH: Is murder bad?!
                Mathius: That’s really more of a question between someone and their priest.
                V: Come on, surely you agree murder is bad.
                M: My objection isn’t to your bill against murder, but to this section and that section, and how this bill might affect other things.
                V: But is murder bad??
                M: ::obfuscates until VH gives up::

                Conclusion: “Mathius asserts right to stab hobos at will.”

              • All that’s interesting but the only overt, non evasive answer she gave was , it’s should be up to the mother and the doctor. Now you claim this doesn’t mean it’s okay to let the baby die—- so what does it mean?

              • so what does it mean?

                It means “it’s not up to me.”

                It means “leave me the hell out of that.”

                It means “I’m not going to give you potential ammunition against my client.”

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                By the way, do you happen to know the actual bill being discussed?

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                I will provide a guess at the context of that initial question which is conveniently cut off and not included in any article I could find.

                You’ll note that they all start off with the legislators flabbergasted and accusingly asking her how she couldn’t support the idea of mandating care to a “baby struggling on the table.” No article or video I could find showed what they were reacting to.

                My guess is that it probably had something to do with whether or not there was an obligation to give care to a born-alive baby who would be dead shortly due to a terminal malady or whether, like removing someone from life support, it could be allowed to die. That might explain why they’re talking about a baby “struggling on the table” and not just “a baby.”

                I’ve seen flavors of that kind of question before… the baby has a terminal birth defect and will be dead very soon.. does the doctor have to keep it alive and suffering or can the mother refuse care and let her child die more peacefully and sooner?

                But that’s just a wild guess… if you can find fuller context, I welcome it. I will happily change my mind accordingly.

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                Lastly, I’d point out that, even if one lobbyist DID “assert a right to kill babies,” that wouldn’t make it PP’s official position or necessarily translate to a view shared by another else whether openly or secretly. It, especially, would not translate automatically to a view shared by all Pro-Choice individuals and groups. Especially in light of PP’s later statement directly asserting that “In the extremely unlikely event that the scenario presented by the panel of legislators should happen, of course Planned Parenthood would provide appropriate care to both the woman and the infant.”

                Now, of course, the lobbyist making such a claim would be speaking against PP’s interests whereas the PP statement is self-serving. As such, the two statements should be weighted accordingly. Nonetheless, it would be unfair to conclude that a single lobbyist giving an evasive answer to a legislator one time in a random Florida hearing amidst muddled and absent context belies a grand conspiracy to facilitate the murder of healthy born-alive babies by the entire organization and/or movement. I’m not suggesting that YOU are drawing that conclusion, but the articles I’ve been reading on this seem to be pointing that way… in a “she slipped up and told us what they all are really thinking” kind of way.

                It’s tempting to take a snippet and blow it up as an “admission,” but I just don’t think that can be supported here.

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                Lastly, lastly, I’d ask you if you feel that the site you linked to and others have given an accurate portrayal of the events as you currently see them?

                Bearing in mind that the initial link blares out “Planned Parenthood Official Asserts There’s a Right to Kill a Baby Who Survives Abortion,” do you believe that this is completely fair and accurate or that this is biased with the intent of painting a narrative?

                Even if that is the conclusion you draw from the video as a whole, do you think the evidence presented in this article and others is unbiased or does it intentionally strip out context in favor of the inflammatory eyeball-grabbing narrative?

                If YOU were to write this article, what would your headline and message be?

              • No, it doesn’t mean any of those things, it means, per the PP representative, that the decision of whether or not the alive baby on the table should get any care is up to the mother and the doctor. If they didn’t want this woman speaking for them they shouldn’t have chosen her to do so. It doesn’t matter and we aren’t even talking about whether PP should support this bill. That wasn’t the topic, and even if it was it wouldn’t change the meaning of her words. She has told you more than once what their policy is when it comes to babies born alive, I’m sorry you don’t want to believe it. But the words are clear. She isn’t being evasive when it comes to stating that detail. Now you can talk all the no comment stuff you want to , doesn’t change her actual words or there meaning. She didn’t have to use those words, she chose to. She didn’t use any of your claims of what she was actually saying. She said, exactly what “We believe”
                , referring to PP. Yet, you want to totally ignore her actual words and just ignore there meaning. As far as the article, I’m assuming the first one, I don’t know who is Jill person even is, I think it’s great, direct and to the point. The woman clearly said, as a rep. of PP , if the mother and/or doctor wants to let the baby die, that’s what should happen. Nothing you have argued changes that fact.

              • V., we’re obviously not going to agree here.

                I don’t think it’s Planned Parenthood’s or any other mainstream agency’s potion that a live-born baby should be killed. Only a completely unhinged, psychotic fringe would make a claim like that.

                Assuredly – ASSUREDLY – such people exist. And some of them, no doubt, work for PP. And maybe she said what you think she said. I don’t think so, but maybe. Who knows? I could be wrong.

                But the position of PP and the position of nearly every pro-choice advocate anywhere in America is, absolutely, that you don’t get to kill babies after birth. I think you have to know that, right?

              • No, I do not know that, I believe that they generally feel that way, but in practice , they believe that the mother gets to decide. They convince themselves that the only time it would happen, would be the exception that would make it okay. Others simply think the baby should have died based on the mothers reasons for wanting the abortion in the first place, so ignoring the small signs that the baby is alive is easy. Then we have the people who have taken babies to die in closets, Or stabbing them in the neck. Or dropping them in liquid. So no, there is no assuredly here.

                But you are right, we are not gonna agree. 😬

  75. Mathius says… (You’re welcome to try, anyway, old man!)

    The Colonel smiles and slowly shakes his head….and mutters…..”youngster”. Mathius does not yet realize, until he reaches this age……that old age and treachery will out do youth and vigor each and every time………………………….translated…………………………I will cheat and you will lose. I recognize that you are younger and faster and can most likely hit harder but you would have to get close enough to accomplish this feat. Sort of like the British mrching against New Orleans….pretty, straight line, rules, standards, bright red uniforms, flags and drums and fifes………and the ‘Mericans…hiding behind hay bales and trees, knowing their limitations…..

    There is another saying…..Beware of the old veterans…..they are old for a reason.

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