Let the Show Go On

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  2. Just A Citizen says:

    I urge everyone to read this article. Then consider that the left thinks we on the right are ignorant rubes. But now we are so smart we come up with a strategy for overwhelming the left with BS and lies, to the point they are unable to respond. I am thinking but cannot remember that term for those that accuse others of doing things which they actually do.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/trump-impeachment-inquiry/right-wing-media-cant-get-their-story-straight-impeachment-they-agree

    Also notice how the arguments for this proposition are diversions and strawmen in and of themselves. Thus has gone this whole impeachment BS.

    No logic, no reason, no taking a deep breath and stepping back. Nope. Just throw MONKEY POO at each other.

  3. U.S.—Kamala Harris became the first Democratic candidate to make good on her promise to improve America by dropping out of the presidential race. While pundits have criticized Democrats for their “pie-in-the-sky” proposals, Harris proved that Democrats’ ideas to make the nation better can actually be put into action, like by dropping out of the race and preventing herself from doing any further harm to the country.

    “We gotta hand it to her — she’s definitely done more ‘for the people’ than anyone else by dropping out,” said one political commentator. “Other candidates just have their empty promises of making America into a socialist utopia. But Kamala has actually helped the nation by preventing Kamala Harris from becoming president.”
    “This selfless public servant stopped the deranged, power-hungry Kamala Harris from ever getting to the White House, and for that, she has our eternal thanks,” said one man in Iowa. “Without her destroying her own campaign, who knows what terrors she would have wrought upon the nation from the Oval Office?”
    The nation suddenly realized, however, that her dropping out made it that much more certain that another terrible candidate will win the nomination, so it might just be a wash.

  4. “[Donald Trump] reads more than anybody I know!” – Sarah Huckabee Sanders

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Yes, and??

      • It’s fairly well documented that he barely reads anything.

        Of course, the Trump-hating left interprets this as functional illiteracy or the belief that he has poor vision but is too vain to wear glasses.

        I would suggest that it’s much more likely that he’s just not a visual learner and prefers oral as a medium to ingest information. Different people learn different ways.

        Whatever the reason, it’s pretty well documented. I even remember him saying that he insists that his briefings be in bullet points.

        The idea that he reads more than anyone she knows is a blatant lie. There’s no way she doesn’t know at least one heavy reader – hell I get through a book a week and my boss gets through one a night. You mean to tell me that, in the upper echelons of power in Washington and the media, she doesn’t know anyone who reads more than “barely at all”?

        It would be funny if it weren’t so insulting.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Mathius

          Well documented you say? Several people who know him have said he reads volumes. This is what he does in the middle of the night, which can often then lead to a Tweet in the early morning hours.

          Every manager I ever worked for wanted briefing boiled down to bullet points. So that is not proof that he doesn’t read. But lets get real, there is no person who could read the volumes of reports prepared to deal with running the Govt.. Every POTUS has to rely on staff doing their job properly and well.

          I doubt it is a lie by Sarah. Because there is much data that supports her notion. Americans read very little anymore. So in her world, the political world, it is very possible he reads more than anyone she knows. I’m not sure that is something she should brag about, however.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          P.S. Maybe your usual whining about telling the truth is misplaced. Maybe you should be questioning not the volume of the reading but its content.

        • Sir Mathius……. The idea that he reads more than anyone she knows is a blatant lie.It would be funny if it weren’t so insulting.
          Why is this even mentioned by you? I profess to being surprised that you, one of the only left leaning people that I can respect, would even think this is news. This is crap and it reminds me of the straws that this impeachment process is grasping. However, if you feel strongly about this, who am I to say that it is not important to you.

          You should really be more concerned about what Nancy Pelosi said this morning about going ahead on impeachment articles. FINALLY, we are getting somewhere and I, for one, am glad to see it going forward. It is going to tear this country apart and it will do nothing to mend a political divide….quite the contrary. I see the political divide to be permanent now.

          All we have heard for three years from prominent democrats is how Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin and even writer Thomas Paine are avowed racists and owned slaves and such……and now they are being quoted. Nancy Pelosi stoop up there this morning and used words like “with love”….and “with love of country”…..”No one is above the law”……”democrats love this country”……. I will give her some credit….she used those terms looking us straight in the face and not laughing….and that, my friend, is the definition of “pathological” liar. She put me right off my breakfast. You should be concerned about this more than whether or not Trump is an avid reader or his briefings use bullet points. In my 42 years of military service and sitting through and giving hundreds of briefings, they had more bullet points than holes in the wall of the Alamo. Not to mention the urgency she put on this……urgency……it is so urgent that they have taken off 64 days since the impeachment process started and another two weeks coming up. Where is the urgency? Where is the true liar?

          You and I will differ on avid reader. I think I am an avid reader. I read a lot of things everyday but I do not sit down to Zane Gray or read fiction and non fiction on a regular basis. Reading a book a day is not avid…it is anal.

          But why is this so important? What should be important is the step that Pelosi took today and the precedent it is setting. She talks about co-equal branches of government when what they are doing is far from that. They have now set a precedent that no matter who the next POTUS is…the House is saying that if we do not like him or her, then we can manufacture anything we want. In other words, no one is above the HOUSE ( to read: the majority in the house). A terrible precedent has been set.

          All this so say, if you want the truth to come out, then you put this shit show in front of a fully televised Senate hearing where witnesses can be called from both sides. You declassify all the information that pertains to this…..and you put it out there. You have true cross examination and “TRUE” fact witnesses……then let the public decide. Not this orchestrated kangaroo court.

          Now, what is most likely going to happen……anyone want to bet how quick we see articles of impeachment? All Pelosi did today, was stand in front of a teleprompter, which she had trouble reading, and try to look decisive and say that she directs the impeachment process to move forward. THAT IS ALL THAT WAS SAID TODAY. No timeline…nothing. Now, I know that the prominent ass hats in Washington are stupid…this is a given….but do you really think you will see a SENATE trial before the election? I do not. The Democrats lose for certain if that happens. I do see that this will drag out and more false information will be leaked to give the primaries some ammunition to crow about on the hopes that it affects the November elections. I personally feel that the Democrats do NOT WANT a Senate hearing. This is their way of negating a POTUS on pure HATE…….and that, is the injustice and that is the example being set…it is ok to HATE and then act on it. Unbelievable.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Colonel

            Amen my brother from another mother. Now did you also notice that Mrs. Pelosi was wearing WHITE during her presser. And when pushed on the reason for is process, namely hating Trump she pushed bask as follows:

            As Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was walking away from the microphone at her weekly press conference, a reporter asked her: “Do you hate the President, Mrs. Speaker?”

            Pelosi stopped and said: “I don’t hate anybody.”

            She then walked back to the microphone, and said that while she believes Trump is a “coward,” that’s only about his political positions.

            “I think this president is a coward when it comes to helping our kids who are afraid of gun violence. I think that he is cruel when he doesn’t deal with helping our Dreamers, of which we are very proud of. I think he is in denial about the climate crisis. However that’s about the election,” she said.
            She continued: “This is about the Constitution of the United States and the facts that lead to the President’s violation of his oath of office. And as a Catholic, I resent your using the word ‘hate’ in a sentence that addresses me. I don’t hate anyone.”

            When someone uses their HONESY or their RELIGION to defend their actions as righteous or trustworthy at the front of an argument they are LYING…………

            Never hire a contractor who starts out the first meeting with “I am an Honest person so you can trust me.”

    • Objection, inadmissible, hearsay.

  5. WASHINGTON, D.C.—Bombshell testimony on Capitol Hill today revealed a shocking truth: that some people do not like President Trump.

    Several progressive experts were brought in to testify, and they all confirmed the startling revelation: some of the country does not care much for Trump and wants him to be impeached.
    “This shocking revelation may be the end for the Trump administration,” said Rep. Jerrold Nadler. “It’s game over. Lights out. The jig is up. The fat lady is singing. The curtains have fallen. The walls are closing in. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump voluntarily resigns after this. We have spent millions of taxpayer dollars and used up everybody’s precious time, but it was all worth it: these liberal professors do not like Trump, and rumor has it that some other people in America don’t like him either.”
    Democrats renewed calls for Trump to resign following the bombshell testimony.
    “It’s possible that Trump insists on remaining in office even though some people do not like him,” said pundit Bill Maher. “You know who else stayed in office even though people did not like him? Adolf J. Hitler! Is his middle initial J? I’m not sure, but it sounded better that way. Anyway, let’s enact a coup to get him out of office.”

  6. After watching some of this hearing crap, gotta give the Crats some credit. They brought in 3 of the best lefty’s they could. They certainly know the talking points are repeating them perfectly. Too bad they are full of shit.

    • Notice they all turned originalist when it suited them. Also since they all seemed to act more like a jury than expert witnesses, the jury was hung. The full jury meets in November.

  7. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    It is rather amazing that the democrats have both discovered something called the “constitution” and hat they embrace it rather than ignore it. Of course they have not bothered to actually read it! I now expect next week they will all come out in support of the 2nd Amendment!

    • Glad I do not live in Ohio.

    • Nope,nope, nope, based on the information presented, this is not just an extreme position, it is dangerous.

      • Well, for starters, as I’ve spoken about before here, my wife had an ectopic pregnancy we were forced to terminate. By this bill, I suppose, she would be an accessory to murder.

        Worse, perhaps, her doctor would be afraid to perform the procedure because she wouldn’t want to get charged with murder.

        And then the fetus would die anyway.

        And then my wife would have died, too.

        Because these idiots are trying to make a point about how pro-life they are.

        • BUT BUT BUT>……it is Ohio…..Liberal, left wing OHIO.********

          ******Assumption made that since Ohio is a yankee state that they are liberal in philosophy and legislatively. If not, I will admit that I have possibly made a mistake. We all know that Colonel’s are never wrong….sometimes, a little short on being right, but never wrong.

  8. As much smack as I talk about U of M during football season, I don’t know if I’ve ever let this out of the bag, that I’m all for…even Hail to the Victors…for their hospital system. My daughter, an MSU 2 year student / transplant to Hawaii / and U of Hawaii graduate, was actually born there at U of M and since her return from Hawaii has been employed as an accountant there.

    But my little story isn’t even about my daughter, its about a co worker at Amazon, and our convo last Saturday while we worked and the MSU / UofM game was on. Of course I started it by barking out GO GREEN and she barked GO BLUE! So I boo’d her and we laughed but then we started talking. I told her about my daughter and she told me her daughter was a current student there. Not only a student, but the president of the… shhhhhhh gotta keep this on the downlow around Amazon – she was actually very timid to say it…but her daughter is president of the Young Republicans at UM. But I’m not sure she gave me the name of the correct group, because she /they/ her family are from Albania and she is fluent but not perfect in English. And when I researched at home, the names didn’t match up. Regardless, her daughter is president of some group of young Republicans at UM.

    …side note, it took her family 5 years to become US citizens

    As we talked, I was very excited to hear what she had to say and she was shocked that I was hip to all the name dropping she was doing…about who her daughter has met…about events that have happened in politics, and so on. Not only has she met Ronna Romney McDaniel, and other R heirarchy, but also the cheerleaders …Diamond and Silk, Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens, Terrence K Williams…she stood very near Don Jr, and Kim G at a rally. We continued chatting and the shift went by pretty fast. In the end, it all boiled down to that she was excited and so very proud that her daughter has been offered an intern job at the White House. I couldn’t be happier for her and her family. She couldn’t believe that someone…anyone…especially at Amazon, could relate to what she was saying. I need to find her again in the mass of employees (1000 new seasonal employees hired for peak season) and get her daughter’s full name so that I can keep watch and support this girl in the future.

    Anyways…I just thought the whole thing is pretty cool. Transplants from Albania…never got a dime of assistance from the US Govt…just hard working, proud to call themselves American…Republicans to boot. Can’t beat it. The End.

    • Now THAT is cool! Thanks for sharing a true American melting pot success story!!

      Murf

    • That is awesome. Great story.

      (Go Irish!) 🙂

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      In the famous Italian section, Arthur Avenue in the Bronx, almost all restaurants there are now owned by Albanians the transition was not even noticeable over the past 30 years. We have several “Italian” restaurants here in North Jersey run by Albanians. Furthermore, about forty years back they started buying up large apartment houses in the North Bronx. There were great concerns about that because they DO have a reputation for settling scores. Turned out they were excellent landlords, respectful of their tenants, especially the elderly which other landlords often harassed to force them out and raise rents. They also avoided the pitfalls of the “real estate” correction/bubble since they self finance.

      My “favorite” Albanian Landlord Story involved a real scum sucking “tenant advocate” lawyer who was actually playing both sides against the middle. He would routinely organize tenants, put them on a rent strike then cut a deal with the landlords in court to give peanuts to the tenants and pocket a large “settlement” for his efforts. Well, one day he just disappeared! Vanished! Months later parts of him were found in all five Boroughs of NYC! I asked my cop friend about why he surfaced. He said, the “lesson” could not be taught to other scum sucking lawyers if they did not see how it turned out.

      Gotta love ’em!

  9. Cool as heck!!! Grand Rapids, Mi native, astronaut Christina Koch, aboard the Space Station…

  10. and the hits keep on coming……….Bernie Sanders/AOC new tax idea being discussed…..a 1.5% non-deductible National Property tax. Just out on the business news. Wow…

    • The Constitution is very clear about taxes assessed directly on citizens. They are forbidden. Excise taxes, custom duties and per capita taxes are allowed. The later must be uniformly applied based on the census data and collected by the states. The only direct tax permitted is the income tax per the 16th amendment. At tax at the time of sale or transfer of a property could be called an excise tax. But an annual tax on the property assessed to the owner would be a forbidden direct tax.

    • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

      You see, the trick is to crack the door open gently the tiniest bit.

      Oh, 1.5%.. “I guess that’s not tooooo bad,” say The People.

      Then something comes along and.. “well, gee, I guess we can make it 2%…”

      ::20 years pass::

      A tiered scale wherein the top marginal bracket pays 37% (but so many deductions that millionaires wind up paying a lower blended rate than the merely “well off”), the bottom decile gets a negative rate, and the upper-middle-class / lower- upper-class get to take the full brunt of it with the full tax but none of the benefits or exemptions.

      Oddly, a loophole inexplicably exempts property owned by congressmen and the President or any major corporation (but not mom and pop companies). The funds are officially slated to pay down the debt, but through the vague magic of ::hand waiving:: arcane parliamentary procedure, are actually siphoned into pork projects and subsidies for the districts and donors of various powerful congressmen.

      ::20 years pass::

      The rich are now fully exempt from the tax. Second homes, considered job-creating structures, receive subsidies. Likewise, Yachts and primary residences over 9,000 sq ft, are fully deductible. 1%-ers receive net subsidies of 10% annually on the net value of their property in gratitude for their service to the economy. The poor applaud this and fervently believe that the wealth will trickle down to them any minute now.

      The 5%-15%-ers are taxed at an effective rate of 97% annually.

      The 15%-ers and below are neither taxed nor do they receive any benefit.

      The entirety of the funds are now split directly between the RNC and the DNC and Amazon.

      In the middle of the night, a package arrives on the doorstep of every home in America. It is a pirate hat, with a fine feather plume sticking out from it. A note reads only “Y’arr,” yet the message is clearly understood by all. The time is at hand.

      ::100 years pass::

      Radiation levels have decreased to a point where man many now emerge from the various underground bunkers. The light is blinding and sears the denizen’s pale flesh as they step, blinking, into the sun. The remnants of the shattered moon encircle the globe like a halo, visible even in daylight, but the orbital bombardment cannons and last of the hunter-drones have long since fallen silent.

      Slowly the people begin to congregate and reform a society. A fresh start for humanity. A chance to do things right, better than the ancients.

      A tribal leader emerges.

      A tax, she proposes, is what is needed to fund a functioning society. We only need a small tax, just one and a half percent of property.

  11. What say you all about Schiff collecting phone records of his colleagues and others possibly journalists? Seems like a significant abuse of power to me. Does congress not have to go through a court to get documents on private citizens?

    • I thought you knew that abuse of power only pertains to Trump….oh, and bribery….wait, I forgot, Trump’s tweets are now obstruction of justice and impeachable according to the learned law professor from ‘HAAAHVAARD”….

    • I heard Pelosi say that Trump fighting House subpoana’s was obstruction of justice. That is insane for her to say that, but it sure is how they are acting. It seems they want their cult followers to believe that the House is above the “co-equal” part of the Constitution. These idiots keep claiming they are following the Constitution, all the while having never read the document (or simply ignoring all the parts they don’t like, which is anything that keeps them from their agenda).

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Pelosi explained this to you ten years ago when she said everything is done under authority of the Commerce Clause. It is all hidden in there, somewhere. And if you can’t find it they have Wizards in Black Robes who can make it appear from thin air.

  12. You have to love the ending of yesterday’s farce with the so called “learned” professors of Law when asked the following: ” Do any of you sitting here right now, have any first hand knowledge of the facts which you interpreted. If you do, please raise your hand.”

    Of course, no one did.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Got to give the Dems credit for outdoing Trump on stupid here. If you want to taint the JURY, namely the American People, you don’t put your fake Jury on first. You wait for them to hear the testimony before the committee first, then let them issue their “opinions”.

      Bottom line, yesterday only happened because polling data showed the Dems were losing the audience.

  13. Just A Citizen says:

    TRUMP EFFECT OR CLINTON/OBAMA EFFECT……………. OR BOTH?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/05/joe-biden-calls-man-damn-liar-076438

    The increasing trend in this kind of stuff from politicians, and some in the public, is bothersome and a far greater problem to the health of the Republic than Trump remaining in office until 2020.

    And oh the irony Joe. The man says he is to old, then he challenges the 80 something guy to a race etc, kind of being a bully in fact. Then he says that he is a very bright fella and knows lots of stuff because…………….he has been around a long time…………..BUT he knew the guy wouldn’t vote for him because…………..HE IS TO OLD.

    Next media question to Joe should be “Joe, what is the magic expiration date where you stop becoming a knower of everything and too old to vote”?

    • Biden also calls him fat, then cuts himself off near the end. Biden’s attitude would tell me he has something that he doesn’t want talked about. It may have been legal, but obviously not proper to have his kid on that board in Ukraine. The best part….he outed himself 😀

  14. Just A Citizen says:

    Evidence of zero Press bias, headline at POLITICO

    “White House counsel plots with Senate GOP as impeachment gets closer”

    PLOTS, not meets to discuss, but PLOTS with. No intent to cast shade on anyone in that choice of words.

  15. Just A Citizen says:

    New headline, Polling shows 46% of Americans think Trump’s actions with Ukraine is an impeachable offense per the Constitution.

    I saw an editorial from one of these 46% this morning. He claimed that the 2nd Amendment is being used to IMPOSE upon the other provisions of the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights. Sounds like something a law “professor” like Mr. Obama or that shill from Stanford would have said.

    • He claimed that the 2nd Amendment is being used to IMPOSE upon the other provisions of the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights.

      I consider myself a reasonably intelligent person. I like to believe that I’m reasonably well informed.

      With that in mind, I have no idea what this sentence means.

      THAT SAID, I saw a man-on-the-street interview at some Trump rally where the guy said that Trump is acting criminal to force the Democrats to investigate him and that’s why they’ve turned up so many liberal Democrat swamp creatures like Manafort and Flynn who have been arrested and sent to jail. He’s pretending to be crooked so he can drain the swamp. I think I died a little inside when I saw that.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Goes with those that think the guy plays 3 D or 6 D chess. I have no doubt it is smarter than the Dems make him out to be, but to say he is smarter than all of them? A S–T–R–E—-T——-C———–H.

  16. Joke ahontas.

    LMAO. Normally, I figure they take the nickname game too far and it gets old. But I laughed way too hard at that one. It was a black guy I heard saying that.

  17. Just A Citizen says:

    When I read this I laughed so hard the water squirted from eyes all over the screen.

    Those loons in California have given new meaning to the term Butt Hurt.

    Still ROTFLMAO………… god it hurts to laugh this hard.

    https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2019/12/05/actor-josh-brolin-takes-instagram-brutal-burns-hollywoods-latest-fitness-fad-perineum-sunning/

  18. WASHINGTON, D.C.—Pelosi lashed out at a reporter who asked her if she hated President Trump today, invoking her Catholic religion as a basis for her obvious total lack of hate for anyone.

    This got her in hot water with progressives, who asked if this meant she now opposes abortion.
    “I’m a Catholic, but not one of those fringe, extremist, anti-baby-murder Catholics,” she said. “I’m the more mainstream, kill-your-baby-any-time-you-want kind of Catholic. I base my beliefs on the teachings of Christ, who called us to love everybody except the preborn who can’t protect themselves. Obviously they’re excluded.”
    “But other than that, I’m very loving.”
    She also clarified that she reserves the right to disavow any teaching of the Catholic Church that contradicts the superior teachings of the church of progressivism.

    • I base my beliefs on the teachings of Christ, who called us to love everybody except the preborn who can’t protect themselves. Obviously they’re excluded.” he never mentioned at all.

      Fixed that for ya…

      She also clarified that she reserves the right to disavow any teaching of the Catholic Church that contradicts the superior teachings of the church of progressivism.

      Let’s remember, Jesus was a dark skinned middle eastern male who provided free health care, gave away free food, hung out with prostitutes, sipped wine, said it was ok for the hungry to take what they need from those who have excess, was pro tax, anti-capitalist, anti-violence, anti-war, big on merciful treatment of criminals, pro-pacifism, and, on at least one notable occasion, was seen being kissed by another man.

      The only kind of gun Jesus would have liked would have been a nail gun.

      Just sayin’…. JC would be a liberal if he were around today.

      ———

      Oh, and he didn’t even drive a Ford pickup truck. You know what he drove? A Honda.. though he didn’t like to talk about it.

      “For I did not speak of my own Accord.” – John 12:49

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        He also said, on saving the adulteress, “Go and SIN NO MORE” people seem to forget that one.

        One must remember that Jesus never went for the easy audience! Always the tough ones! As he brought more and more of the “outcasts and deplorables ” over, he became a real threat to the…….deep state!

        The Pharisees and Sadducees on the Intel and Judicial committees took care of that in one quick hurry.

        • One of my all-time favorite stories was when I went to a wedding in the middle of nowhere in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

          We were deep in the heart of Jesus country, with a full mass for the wedding, and the audience were all asked if we accepted Jesus and would support the marriage and.. hoo boy..

          Anyway, at dinner afterward, we’re sitting with the bride’s high school friend (we were college friends) and they keep starting at my wife (then girlfriend) and I. Finally, I pushed one to just come out with it – why were they staring at us.

          And it turned out that the bride had informed her friends that my wife and I were Jewish. And this girl, probably 22-23, asked, very timidly, “so what, exactly, is a Jew.” All conversation at the table ground to a dead stop and everyone stared at us because, apparently, this was something none of them knew, all of them were dying to know.

          And, before my wife could stop me, I responded. “Well you know that guy, Jesus, right?”

          “Oh yes, yes, we love Jesus, our lord and savior..”

          “Well, Jesus… was a Jew.”

          Every jaw hit the table. One or two people were outraged – “no, Jesus was a good Christian!” You could see that there was some deep personal offense taken as though I’d called him a dirty hippy (which he undoubtedly was). They were adamant. And getting worked up. They couldn’t process that there was no way for him to follow the NT because the NT hadn’t been written yet.

          Fortunately for me, there were several priests at this wedding and I was able to flag one down to confirm that, yes, in fact, Jesus was a Jew.

          I honestly believe that if a priest hadn’t backed me up, I would have wound up getting beaten to death behind the barn

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            Ya know, that shows the lack of a Catholic Education. Hell I knew that in third grade.

            • I have long said that the bible should be taught in school. Not as “religion” but as a cornerstone text of western culture.

              If you want to teach that it’s the truth, you can do that at home, but in school, I think it’s a failure of education that students not learn what this thing says, what it doesn’t say, how to read it, how to interpret it, how different groups interpret it, how the Jews/Muslims/Mormons interpret it, what the OT is versus the NT, etc.

              A majority of Americans are Christian. Our culture is founded on British culture which was overwhelmingly Christian as well. Our founding documents, or cultural morays, all of it.. rooted in Christianity to one degree or another. Huge swaths of voters vote based on their understanding of the bible. Leaders appeal to religion and couch their language in it. We have international relationships with countries don’t even have a separation of church and state.

              That’s not to say that we are a “Christian Country” – but this country sure as hell has a lot of Christianity in it.

              For kids not to be given a good, solid, grounding in “Christianity 101” is just as bad as not teaching them the Constitution. Again, not to teach them to “be” Christian or “believe” in it – that is a private matter for the family – but “what it is,” because that is a huge part of being a part of the culture of America.

              (Likewise, I think that Karl Marx and Mein Kompf should be required reading. Not to teach them as “the truth” or “good ideas”.. but how can you be a well educated, well rounded citizen without at least a basic understanding of these ideologies? How can you know your ideology is “right” without knowing and understanding what else is out there?)

              • {{{HEAVY Sigh……}}}

              • Porque the heavy sigh?

              • Just A Citizen says:

                Mathius

                I agree wholeheartedly with the general premise. However, how can you call it an education if there is no compare and contrast, no investigation of the right vs. wrong of the theories?

                But I do agree that failure to include Judaism and Christianity, including the books which support them, leaves any exploration of Western Civilization incomplete.

      • That shows how much YOU know…..and on the 8th day, God created Texas and said “go forth and drive your Ford F 150″…and they all cheered and said “PRAISE God”……………then, having spent all his remaining energy and when he should have rested, HE created Congress, Nancy Pelosi…..along with the Platypus, Dodo Bird, and the common house fly.

        And I thought you were a learned biblical scholar…..

  19. It still amazes me why some military bases disarm the military while on post. Pensacola just had a shooter……right after the Fort Hood debacle, all army posts are carrying weapons now. Why not the Navy?

    • Doesn’t make any sense. Let the admins carry too! My sister was on lockdown for however long when the jerk was busy shooting up the Dept of the Navy campus in Maryland a few years back. Scary time for us. She was able to text from her office, so we knew she was Ok, but still…ugh.

    • I get wanting to carry your child and have a roll in creating that life. And I get how this can be hard on same-sex couples or in adopting. So I don’t want to be unkind here…

      But this.. this is just stupid.

      Also “Otis” is a stupid name for a child. It’s the name of my first dog.

  20. Canine Weapon says:

    (2nd attempt)

  21. Just A Citizen says:

    The Democratic Party has effectively dragged political races to the lowest level of irrelevancy. This is what you get when you create petty issues to tar and feather the other party. They eventually come back to bite you. The saddest part is this kind of garbage spread to the other party as well. Remember how many R’s whined about Trump’s tax returns?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/06/elizabeth-warren-pete-buttigieg-hostilities-077076

    Who the hell cares who is on what committee or what your taxes were?? I sure don’t. Do we really want to see the ENTIRE PROCESS OF MAKING SAUSAGE?

    I want to know; A) What are your major policy issues, B) What are you proposing to do about it, and C) HOW do you think you will get this done, while also EFFECTIVELY running the Govt. Like what are the types of people you will recruit to Cabinet positions? You taking them from special interest groups or recruiting effective managers? Things like that.

    I can judge whether A and B align with my Ideological views. And if they don’t you will not get my full support. Where they all fail in my mind, both parties, is this habit of essentially claiming Ultimate Knowledge of what is Right, Ultimate and Solitary Skill in getting it done, whatever it is, and the Unilateral Power to make it all happen.

    In short, Elect ME KING and I WILL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.

    • In short, Elect ME KING and I WILL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.

      .. But if you manage to become king, I would like an appointment to the Supreme Court (or whatever your royal equivalent is). As discussed, I believe you would like JUSTICE Mathius far more that POTUS Mathius.

  22. WASHINGTON, D.C.—There wasn’t much happening in the world today, so Trump simply sat at his desk looking for something to do.

    Then, he got an idea. Picking up his desk phone, he dialed a number and waited for the man on the other end to pick up.
    Meanwhile, Colkin Kaepernick was sitting around nervously waiting for his phone to ring at long last. As his ringtone, the USSR anthem, began to play, Kaepernick lunged for the phone and picked up on the first ring. “Hello?” he said, attempting to sound casual.
    “Hi, uh, yes, is this a Mr. Kaepernick?” Trump said, stifling laughter.
    “Yeah, it’s me. Who’s this?” Kaepernick said, trying not to get his hopes up.
    “This is the Detroit Lions, and we’d love to sign you,” Trump said, barely containing his laughter.
    “OK, well, I’ve got a lot of offers so let me talk with my agent and get back to you,” Kaepernick said, taking a knee in his joy.
    “Yeah, we’ve got a great franchise here. One of the best. Maybe the best franchise ever. Lots of footballing and throwing. Even some kicking. You’ll fit in great here. When can you come for a tryout?” Trump said, the floodgates of laughter ready to burst at any moment.
    Kapernick’s face fell. “Oh man. Donald Trump, is that you!?”
    “Ha! Classic!” Trump said. You should have heard yourself. “‘Let me talk with my agent and get back to you’ — Sad! Fell for it hook, line, and sinker! You’re a low-IQ individual!”
    This is reportedly the third time Trump has pulled this stunt this week.
    At publishing time, Trump was dialing from a different number, planning on pretending to be the Miami Dolphins front office.

    • As stupid as the rest of this was, the one line, “taking a knee in his joy” got me. That was a pretty solid joke.

  23. Why not? Its Friday night…

  24. https://www.westernjournal.com/democrats-doctored-video-trump-used-impeachment-hearing/

    While not surprising, it shows clearly that the Crats are not honest and can’t be trusted. Shamefully, their cult followers believe their BS.

  25. Just A Citizen says:

    From my December predictions list:

    My predictions for December, 2019.

    The Bills will become the #1 team in the AFC East or whatever that conference is.

    The Ravens will become the overall #1 Seed.

    The Seahawks finish second to the 49ers in the NFC west, but get the wildcard. Dallas wins their division with a 500 season.

    The IG Report on the Trump/Russia investigations is pretty much a nothing burger. A few tidbits of bad decisions but pretty much whitewashing and protecting the establishment.

    The House Judiciary issues articles of Impeachment, focusing primarily on Obstruction of Justice. They might add some stuff over Ukraine but that will only be to keep Schiff’s following happy. The moderate Dems will want this over soon. By moving to the Senate they get it over and can then blame the R’s for letting POTUS off the hook, while claiming ” I didn’t support this mess”.

    The Senate schedules the trial for early 2020, where they find Not Guilty. Handing Dems a narrative of Republicans breaking the law once again in time for the 2020 campaign season.

    The House does not pass the NAFTA replacement before year end. The Administration does not get final tweaks done either.

    Final Four in the College playoff: Ohio State, LSU, Clemson and BAYLOR. Utah beats Oregon but gets no respect from the computer and wind up ranked 5th.

    Cincinnati beats Memphis, Boise St. beats Hawaii, and the Broncos go to the Cotton Bowl. Which kicks up their Texas connection even further.

    OK, LOOKS LIKE I AM BUSTED ON THE FOOTBALL SIDE OF THINGS SO FAR. PARTLY RIGHT BUT DOESN’T GET HER DONE……….CINCINNATI I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU. THAT GOES FOR BAYLOR AS WELL. SO CLOSE YET SO FAR. COMPLETELY MISSED THE UTAH PREDICTION. GOT CAUGHT UP IN OREGON PLAYING SMHHHHH AGAINST BOTH WASHINGTON TEAMS.

    • But, when it comes to Trump we get this —- “The report states: “The question is not whether the President’s conduct could have resulted from permissible motives. It is whether the President’s real reasons, the ones in his mind at the time, were legitimate.””
      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/07/house-judiciary-committee-report-president-can-be-impeached-for-motives-without-breaking-law/

      • Just about everything the Crats say at this point is next to impossible to believe.

      • I brought up mind reading and unstated intentions several days ago and got a lecture on mens rea. PC is now old hat. It is now TC, thought police.

      • Mens rea is nothing new or unique the the President. It is something the courts have dealt with for hundreds of years.

        If I accidentally run you over in my horse drawn buggy, I have committed no crime (as distinct from owing you damages). But if I purposefully run you over in my horse drawn buggy, I have committed a crime.

        If I say something untrue under oath, it can be perfectly legal.. if I believe it, or mispoke, or it was an accident. But it can be illegal if I lied deliberately.

        Same exact action, same injury, same everything, but criminal or not based solely on my intent.

        How can the courts know what is in my heart? Well, they can look at the surrounding evidence. Did I know you? Did I hate you? Did I owe you money? Have I previously threatened to run you over in my horse drawn buggy? Do I benefit from your death? Sure, the courts can’t read my mind, but they can look at the evidence and reach a conclusion as to the most likely motive.

        If the courts had no means of ascertaining intent (mens rea), then no one could ever be prosecuted for perjury. All “theft” would be “accidental,” and thus not criminal. Slander and libel would be “mistakes.” Murder would be impossible.

        We do this all the time in our daily lives, trying to divine the intent behind people’s actions. The same word or deed can be benign or malign or have some ulterior motive. Sure, I may not have a camera in your head, but I can put two and two together and come up with a pretty strong conviction of what you intended. We humans are pretty good at that kind of thing.

        “The report states: “The question is not whether the President’s conduct could have resulted from permissible motives. It is whether the President’s real reasons, the ones in his mind at the time, were legitimate.””

        If I walk into a bank wearing a face mask because it’s cold outside and everyone freaks out, that’s just an accident. If I walk into a bank wearing a face mask because I want to rob the place, that’s a crime. And, incidentally, if I do both at the same time, which is to say I forgot I was wearing the mask, but wanted to both deposit a check and rob the place (just go with it), even though I also had legitimate intent to being there, it’s still a crime because of my illegitimate intent.

        That is, having benign intent does not shield me from the criminality of my malign intent.

        “The report states: “The question is not whether the President’s conduct could have resulted from permissible motives. It is whether the President’s real reasons, the ones in his mind at the time, were legitimate.””

        This is a very valid point.

        I know it smells like mind reading, but it’s really not.

        We can know – or reasonably suspect – people’s motives in all kinds of (potentially) criminal actions.

        As above, if I run you over, they might know based on things I’d said or done that I had wanted to do it on purpose. And then it’s a crime. But if you’re a stranger and there was a deer in the road and and and…? See? It’s not exactly mind reading.

        If Rudy turns on Trump and shows that Trump was really after the investigation to smear Biden, then that’s illegitimate. That it was also legitimate to chase down fraud doesn’t make the former more permissible.

        If I have to swerve my car to avoid a dear and take the opportunity to also run you over by swerving in your direction, the fact that I had a legitimate interest in avoiding the deer doesn’t make it ok that I chose to run you over. That would still be a crime… assuming there was sufficient evidence to support that conclusion.

        THAT SAID, more to the point of the above seems to be what I was getting at with my (admittedly stretched) bank robbery, you can have BOTH legitimate intent and illegitimate intent. And having the former does not make the later ok.

        If Trump (legitimate) wanted to defend against fraud and (illegitimate) wanted to coerce a foreign government into investigating his political rival for political gain, then it’s still an illegitimate action.

        ———–

        I watched a youtube video on this with a lawyer who really broke it down well… I’ll see if I can dig it up for you.

        • You are seeing a whole team of psychiatrists,,,aren’t you.

          • I am seeing all kinds of things… maybe that’s why I need the psychiatrists..?

            That said, is there any particular point in what I said which you would like to refute?

            • testing

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Just two clarifications.

              Evidence of intent……… this is where Beyond a Reasonable Doubt comes in the law. Did he do it……… easy to show most of the time. But sometimes this also falls under the criteria. Are you pretty damn sure he did it. But then did he do it on purpose. You had better be really damn sure he did. In the Trump/Ukraine fiasco…….. this standard is clearly lacking. But then it is an impeachment so who cares.

              The statement in the article, and your comments, are good only to the extent that the intent behind it somehow could make the act wrong. If killing you on purpose is not a crime nor prohibited, it matters not whether I killed you on purpose or not.

              So that leaves us with “Is it really illegal to ask another country to look into reports of corruption involving the Bidens and others, if your purpose is to find out if there is in fact dirt you can use later to a) defend yourself against DNC attacks and/or b) damage Joe Biden.”

              I like how you tried to handle the deer and running over Gman as two events, one OK and one a crime. But what about what is probably going on here.

              One event is completely OK and the other is just a side benefit that could arise, depending on outcomes. The presumption by the Dems all along has been that just asking for the investigation constituted election interference or conflict. But without evidence of using the investigation itself then the “dirt” depended on the investigation actually finding something.

              Please note that the Dems have changed their arguments and talking points in the media several times. It moved from “digging up dirt” to recently claiming that “demanding public announcements” was the strategy. So it would seem to me the Dems have recognized the problem the created and are in the process of moving the goal posts.

              Next up will be when we come to think Trump believe the rumors of corruption, or at least accepted the reports as being concerning, while others claim those reports were “conspiracy theories” and should there fore have been dismissed. Thus proving criminal intent by Trump. Oh wait, that is what Ms. Hill tried to do in her testimony……………

            • Ok……yes sir……your use and understanding and the use and understanding by others of mens rea. In my limited law education ( business and employment law ), when you try to define intent without a crime…..there is no mens rea. In reading the legal definition of mens rea, four things have to happen. (1) Acting purposefully, (2) acting knowingly, (3) acting recklessly, and (4) acting negligently. It goes on to say that you cannot have a #1 without a #2. All four acts must be met. Then once met, it goes to Actus Rea.

              Under your definition, as I read it…….simply because Trump is wanting re-election, then it is reasonable to assume he would go after Biden illegally. This is mind reading. FULL STOP. It is NOT reasonable to assume this. *****

              **** you or I may have a personal opinion but personal opinions do not meet mens rea.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Mathius

          You seem to be omitting a key part of Mens Rea. It is not the intent to do an action it is the intent to commit a crime. Which then goes to whether the person had knowledge that what they wanted to do was a crime. Yes, ignorance of the law is no excuse is our refrain. But there are cases where lack of such knowledge or even the lack of clarity that such act was a crime counts as undermining the “criminal mind”.

          • Quite true.

            But, then, are we to believe that after all the flak he caught related to his alleged request for Russia to help him during the election, that he was unaware such things were verboten? After he had to – repeatedly – defend himself by claiming it was a joke and not a real request.
            After he has been asked, repeatedly, and on camera, if he would accept foreign assistance and being called out so many times over it, even to the extent that the director of the FBI has had to publicly assert that he should report any attempts by foreign powers to offer assistance?

            Is the defense of the President of the United States, the chief executive of this land, to be that he was unaware that seeking foreign assistance in a domestic campaign is illegal after all of that?

            I’m sorry, but I do not find “ignorance” to be credible in this case.

            If I were a betting man, which I am, I would be that he knew damned well that “seeking foreign assistance against his opponent” was illegal, but thought that (A) he wouldn’t get caught and (B) if he were caught that he could hide behind the legitimate justification for his actions and (C) if he couldn’t, that the Republic majority in the senate would shield him from any consequences.

            • that seeking foreign assistance in a domestic campaign is illegal

              So I must ask. The DNC and Clinton campaign paid a Brit named C. Steele to get foreign dirt on Trump and it is well known now, that this dossier was used to get FISA warrants. This done by professional politicians, not a businessman. The question is, if it’s illegal, why no charges against the DNC and HRC?

              • I have no idea if a campaign is allowed to hire a foreign national. I know in ’08, there was a kerfuffle where Elton John raised some money for Clinton and the FEC ruled that it was ok. I do not claim to be an expert in election law. I know the line gets drawn somewhere. I do not know if hiring a foreigner crosses that line, but would doubt it.

                However, it seems pretty clear that, (allegedly) extorting a foreign government in order to force them to launch an investigation based on a conspiracy theory in order to taint your political opponent would not be on the safe-side of wherever that line gets drawn.

    • Wouldn’t be easier to count the ones who did not?

      • Probably. Few people ever mention that Clinton Foundation donations DROPPED 90% after Trump won in 2016. I have little doubt that HRC was a political prostitute. She was on a higher scale than most, but there are plenty of them in politics.

  26. Joe Biden: ‘I’m Just Like You Regular Folk, I Put My Pants On One Arm At A Time’

    😀 😀 😀

    • I love this concept of “the inadmissibility of hearsay.”

      https://www.rulesofevidence.org/article-viii/rule-803/

      Everyone’s an armchair litigator these days.

      • LMAO 😀 So, when this happens to a Democrat you will say that it’s OK? Or you actually realize that a witness that presumes or heard from John, who heard it from Karen is mostly useless in all of this. Hmmm.

        • What I will presume is that the “rule of law” is not so cut and dry as you paint it.

          What constitutes “hearsay” and when and how it may be admitted is a complicated concept with a rich history of precedent.

          I will further point out that the LEGISLATURE is not the JUDICIAL branch and that the laws and rules and case-law applicable to the later need not apply strictly to the former.

          The point I’m making is not whether “it’s ok” to admit hearsay or not. I take no view at present. But, rather, to take exception to the Republican talking point that all this hearsay is invalid simply because it’s hearsay and hearsay is inadmissible. That simply isn’t the case.

  27. One must wonder. If a politician learns of possible wrongdoing from a future political opponent, is that politician required to pursue an investigation, OR, is it wrong to do so because somehow, political opponents are above the law?

    Secondly, when a politician makes statements during an investigation that were clearly debunked by said investigation, Isn’t that an attempt to obstruct justice?

  28. Took my kid to the office over the weekend and she wound up doing a Donald Trump impression.

    Enjoy. (or don’t.. it’s a free country)

    • If that is your child for real……very pretty young lady, of which I am sure, got her looks from mom.

      • That is, indeed, my younger daughter (age 4), firing me so that I won’t have to go to work anymore and can spend more time with her.

        I tend to believe she’s a pretty cute kid, but then again, I am legally obligated to believe that. I haven’t met a parent yet who will admit that their offspring looks like a gremlin. It’s incredibly hard to be objective when they’re yours.

        • Cute!!
          My son was a gremlin. A super gremlin. Screamed for the first 4 months. Had to take shifts swinging him in his carseat. Full out arm swings. It sucked!!! Then he finally shut up and became a people watcher and listener. Ended up a cute kid and handsome adult. I tell him I hope his firstborn pays me back for those first 4 months. My luck, he’ll fix me and not bless me with grandkids.

          • Here’s a question, though… AT THE TIME… did you think he looked like a gremlin?

            I think #1 is cute, but #2 is… unreasonably photogenic.

            • Yes. No lie. I never said it out loud, but he was a gremlin. The next person might not have thought that, but I did. Also knew he’d smooth out if he ever shut up. You’re not very handsome when you’re screaming either.

  29. Check out US House Bill 5038…..it will not get past the Senate and will not get to the POTUS desk……but read it close as to how it circumvents current US law.

  30. Canine Weapon says:

  31. Some stuff I read/seen today.

    Biden (video) says that people who are pro-Confederate flag are fine people.

    Middle school principal who wants to save the planet, tell parents that Christmas cards are no longer, because they add to the carbon problems, by sending out 275 letters to parents.

    The remaining Crats running for the nomination are ALL white. Not sure why this is important, but many on the left are saying so.

    My Microsoft News feed on politics is 98% Liberal news outlets. WaPO and NYT must be paying big money to get so mush of their stuff there. Isn’t this election interference? What is the difference between a biased media and a Russian political ad? Answer: NOTHING

  32. Just A Citizen says:

    My oh my, candid look at Afghanistan.
    Long read and much stuff hidden in the content. Take the time.

    John Sopko, the head of the federal agency that conducted the interviews, acknowledged to The Post that the documents show “the American people have constantly been lied to.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/confidential-documents-reveal-us-officials-failed-to-tell-the-truth-about-the-war-in-afghanistan/ar-BBXY8l1

  33. This is on the Microsoft News feed: BREAKING NEWS: Internal Justice watchdog finds that Russia probe was justified, not biased against Trump. Details to come.

    That’s not quite what Barr is saying. None of it matters much at this point anyway. The future of politics has already been told, in real time.

  34. Just A Citizen says:

    Sounds like something Mathius would write………… lol

    FBI’s receipt of Steele’s dossier ‘played a crucial role’ in seeking surveillance order, but no evidence political bias was a factor
    The Crossfire Hurricane team initially was waived off of applying for a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant for Carter Page by high-level Justice Department officials.

    The officials said the team needed more evidence first that Page was an agent of a foreign power. But after receiving Steele’s report, which detailed alleged coordination between Page and the Kremlin in the summer of 2016, the team asked again and were allowed to move forward.

    While the agents did not have corroborating information to support Steele’s reporting, Horowitz found, he also “did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to seek FISA authority on Carter Page.”

    I guess those love notes about having alternative plans to deal with Trump were just not evidence. Or that use of an uncorroborated report to secure the Warrant could not have been driven by bias………….. just ineptitude.

  35. Canine Weapon says:

  36. I thought this was a pretty good recap of the LEGAL aspects of matter.

    • Well, I am a bit confused (nothing new here). The Lawyer (I’m assuming) is stating that the facts are still changing. How do FACTS change I ask? A fact, is a fact. A non-fact is forever changing. Kinda makes Trump’s case, right from the get go of the video.

      • The facts in evidence, the available facts.. what we know, what we’ve heard, etc. Come on man… don’t be obtuse.

        • I’m sorry, I just don’t think FACTS are derived from hearsay and presumptions. But I do like how the lawyer played it.

          • Heresay is not factual even if proven correct. But, you have to understand g man…..facts, like goal posts, can be moved. They can be manipulated and changed to fit scenarios. You are trying to be logical in the face of politics……nope. It is the same reasoning as the US Constitution is a living breathing document subject to the everyday whims and arrows and thought process’ and the forever statement…..”this is what the framers intended”…..more mind reading.

        • another great movie…..now, into the “hole” you go.

          • One of my favorite movies of all time.. if not my favorite. Another one of the (exceedingly rare) instances of the movie being better than the book.

            Then again, the book did a better job on the roof scene.. In the movie, Andy came off a bit shaken and scared when he was dragged to the edge. In the book, Andy was…

            He lapsed into a morose silence, thinking of what terrible bad luck he’d had to inherit that thirty-five thousand dollars. Andy Dufresne had been spreading tar with a big brush less than fifteen feet away and now he tossed it into his pail and walked over to where Mert and Hadley were sitting.

            We all tightened up, and I saw one of the other screws, Tim Youngblood, drag his hand down to where his pistol was holstered. One of the fellows in the sentry tower struck his partner on the arm and they both turned, too. For one moment I thought Andy was going to get shot, or clubbed, or both.

            Then he said, very softly, to Hadley: “Do you trust your wife?” Hadley just stared at him. He was starting to get red in the face, and I knew that was a bad sign. In about three seconds he was going to pull his billy club and give Andy the butt end of it right in the solar plexus, where that big bundle of nerves is. A hard enough hit there can kill you, but they always go for it. If it doesn’t kill you it will paralyze you long enough to forget whatever cute move it was that you had planned.

            “Boy,” Hadley said, “I’ll give you just one chance to pick up that brush. And then you’re goin’ off this roof on your head.”

            Andy just looked at him, very calm and still. His eyes were like ice. It was as if he hadn’t heard. And I found myself wanting to tell him how it was, to give him the crash course. The crash course is you never let on that you hear the guards talking, you never try to horn in on their conversation unless you’re asked (and then you always tell them just what they want to hear and shut up again). Black man, white man, red man, yellow man, in prison it doesn’t matter because we’ve got our own brand of equality. In prison every con’s a low life, and you have to get used to the idea if you intend to survive men like Hadley and Greg Stammas, who really would kill you just as soon as look at you. When you’re in stir you belong to the State and if you forget it, woe is you. I’ve known men who’ve lost eyes, men who’ve lost toes and fingers; I knew one man who lost the tip of his penis and counted himself lucky that was all he lost. I wanted to tell Andy that it was already too late. He could go back and pick up his brush and there would still be some big lug waiting for him in the showers that night, ready to charley-horse both of his legs and leave him writhing on the cement. You could buy a lug like that for a pack of cigarettes or three Baby Ruths. Most of all, I wanted to tell him not to make it any worse than it already was.

            What I did was to keep on running tar out onto the roof as if nothing at all was happening. Like everyone else, I look after my own ass first. I have to. It’s cracked already, and in Shawshank there have always been Hadleys willing to finish the job of breaking it.

            Andy said, “Maybe I put it wrong. Whether you trust her or not is immaterial. The problem is whether or not you believe she would ever go behind your back, try to hamstring you.”

            Hadley got Up. Mert got up. Tim Youngblood got up. Hadley’s face was as red as the side of a brick house. “Your only problem,” he said, “is going to be how many bones you still got unbroken. You can count them in the infirmary. Come on, Mert. We’re throwing this sucker over the side.”

            Tim Youngblood drew his gun. The rest of us kept tarring like mad. The sun beat down. They were going to do it; Hadley and Mert were simply going to pitch him over the side. Terrible accident. Dufresne, prisoner 81433-SHNK, was taking a couple of empties down and slipped on the ladder. Too bad.

            They laid hold of him, Mert on the right arm, Hadley on the left. Andy didn’t resist. His eyes never left Hadley’s red face.

            “If you’ve got your thumb on her, Mr. Hadley,” he said in that same calm, composed voice, “there’s not a reason why you shouldn’t have every cent of that money. Final score, Mr. Byron Hadley thirty-five thousand, Uncle Sam zip.” Mert started to drag him toward the edge.

            Hadley just stood there. For a moment Andy was like a rope between them in a tug-of-war game. Then Hadley said, “Hold on one second, Mert. What do you mean, boy?”

            “I mean, if you’ve got your thumb on your wife, you can give it to her,” Andy said.

            “You better start making sense, boy, or you’re going over.”

            “The IRS allows you a one-time-only gift to your spouse,” Andy said. “It’s good up to sixty thousand dollars.”

            Hadley was now looking at Andy as if he had been poleaxed. “Naw, that ain’t right,” he said. “Tax free?”

            “Tax free,” Andy said. “IRS can’t touch cent one.”

            “How would you know a thing like that?”

            Tim Youngblood said: “He used to be a banker, Byron. I s’pose he might-”

            “Shut ya head, Trout,” Hadley said without looking at him.

            Tim Youngblood flushed and shut up. Some of the guards called him Trout because of his thick lips and buggy eyes. Hadley kept looking at Andy. “You’re the smart banker who shot his wife. Why should I believe a smart banker like you? So I can wind up in here breaking rocks right alongside you? You’d like that, wouldn’t you?”

            Andy said quietly: “If you went to jail for tax evasion, you’d go to a federal penitentiary, not Shawshank. But you won’t. The tax-free gift to the spouse is a perfectly legal loophole. I’ve done dozens . . . no, hundreds of them. It’s meant primarily for people with small businesses to pass on, or for people who come into one-time-only windfalls. Like yourself.”

            “I think you’re lying,” Hadley said, but he didn’t-you could see he didn’t. There was an emotion dawning on his face, something that was grotesque overlying that long, ugly countenance and that receding, sunburned brow. An almost obscene emotion when seen on the features of Byron Hadley. It was hope.

            “No, I’m not lying. There’s no reason why you should take my word for it, either. Engage a lawyer-”

            “Ambulance-chasing highway-robbing sob’s!” Hadley cried.

            Andy shrugged. “Then go to the IRS. They’ll tell you the same thing for free. Actually, you don’t need me to tell you at all. You would have investigated the matter for yourself.”

            “You’re right. I don’t need any smart wife-killing banker to show me where the bears go in the woods.”

            “You’ll need a tax lawyer or a banker to set up the gift for you and that will cost you something,” Andy said. “Or . . . if you were interested, I’d be glad to set it up for you nearly free of charge. The price would be three beers apiece for my co-workers-”

            “Co-workers,” Mert said, and let out a rusty guffaw. He slapped his knee. A real knee-slapper was old Mert, and I hope he died of intestinal cancer in a part of the world where morphine is as of yet undiscovered. “Co-workers, ain’t that cute? Co-workers! You ain’t got any-”

            “Shut your friggin trap,” Hadley growled, and Mert shut. Hadley looked at Andy again. “What was you saying?”

            “I was saying that I’d only ask three beers apiece for my coworkers, if that seems fair,” Andy said. “I think a man feels more like a man when he’s working out of doors in the springtime if he can have a bottle of suds. That’s only my opinion. It would go down smooth, and I’m sure you’d have their gratitude.”

            I have talked to some of the other men who were up there that day – Rennie Martin, Logan St. Pierre, and Paul Bonsaint were three of them – and we all saw the same thing then . . . felt the same thing. Suddenly it was Andy who had the upper hand. It was Hadley who had the gun on his hip and the billy in his hand, Hadley who had his friend Greg Stammas behind him and the whole prison administration behind Stammas, the whole power of the State behind that, but all at once in that golden sunshine it didn’t matter, and I felt my heart leap up in my chest as it never had since the truck drove me and four others through the gate back in 1938 and I stepped out into the exercise yard.

            Andy was looking at Hadley with those cold, clear, calm eyes, and it wasn’t just the thirty-five thousand then, we all agreed on that. I’ve played it over and over in my mind and I know. It was man against man, and Andy simply forced him, the way a strong man can force a weaker man’s wrist to the table in a game of Indian rasseling. There was no reason, you see, why Hadley couldn’t’ve given Mert the nod at that very minute, pitched Andy overside onto his head, and still taken Andy’s advice. No reason. But he didn’t.

            “I could get you all a couple of beers if I wanted to,” Hadley said. “A beer does taste good while you’re working. The colossal bastard even managed to sound magnanimous.

            God, what a fantastic scene. That bit right at the end, though… “It was man against man, and Andy simply forced him, the way a strong man can force a weaker man’s wrist to the table in a game of Indian rasseling.”.. phenomenal… and really the only thing missing from the movie.

  37. If someone paid a 125K for a banana taped to a wall, this is worth a cool million 😀

  38. extorting a foreign government in order to force them to launch an investigation based on a conspiracy theory in order to taint your political opponent would not be on the safe-side of wherever that line gets drawn.

    If any POTUS, or any official, uses extortion for any reason….it is criminal. I do not know of one….do you?

  39. The U.S. attorney who is conducting a wide-ranging investigation of the origins of the Trump-Russia probe released a rare statement Monday saying he disagrees with conclusions of the so-called FISA report — after DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz found in that review that the probe’s launch largely complied with DOJ and FBI policies.
    “Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened,” U.S. Attorney John Durham said in a statement.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-blasts-fbi-over-intrusive-probe-of-trump-campaign-in-wake-of-fisa-report

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      IG’s are in place to protect the agency that employs them.

      That said as Mueller said, the scope of my investigation DID NOT include looking at the veracity of the Steele Dossier. They all ook it and launched investigations against Trump, never looking backwards to it genesis. Ie, themselves paying the autho, the DNC, the Hillary campaign etc. Nobody smelled a rotting fish. Tell me another tale. A person’s viewpoint always colors decisions.

      Plus narrow the scope, as Reno did to Durham in the aftermath of the Whitey Bolger case. He got to go after the FBI agents but the top banana Mueller who kept them incarcerated knowing they were innocent.

      Here Christoper Wrat is protecting the FBI instead of rooting out malfeasance and corruption in the agency.

  40. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I find it interesting that Horowitz didn’t find it problematic the extreme bias that the principles involved had against Trump..

    Yet when their hatred for Trump was made public they were fired from the Mueller investigation because of that bias.

    • Dale…in answer to your statement above, I offer the following reason:

      Fellow Americans,
      I am proudly
      standing Here to Humbly see,
      I assure you and I mean it,
      now says I don’t speak out as plain as day
      Now fellow Americans I’m for progress
      and the flag long may it fly,
      I’m a poor boy
      come to greatness
      so it follows that I cannot tell a lie.
      Ohhhh I love to dance a little side step,
      Now they see me now they don’t I’ve come and gone
      and Ohhhh I love to sweep around the wide Step
      Cut a little swath and lead the people on.
      Now my good friends it behooves me
      to be solemn and declare,
      I’m for goodness and for profit,
      and for living clean and saying daily pray and now my good friends
      You can sleep nights
      I’ll continue to stand tall
      You can trust me
      For I promise I shall
      Keep a watchful eye upon you all.
      Ohhhh I love to dance a little side step,…

      Now, Horowitz, would drown in a Texas Thunderstorm by looking up at it…still would not recognize rain hitting him in the face.
      —————-

      Most of you on this blog have long known my positions. I am obviously right leaning…but I do see both sides and even if I disagree with one side, I will give credit where credit is due…..even to Mathius….and that damn dog. I have never believed in conspiracy theories and usually discount them tremendously. Now, in reading the Horowitz report, which is more boring than watching paint dry, I am beginning to change my mind on something.

      I do see a deep state and I do believe it exists and I do believe that there is a soft coup attempt on President Trump. It is a mindset. Washington is a corrupt. It is rotten to the core and it is controlled. President Trump is a threat to the existence of the deep state….I define the deep state as those that are entrenched and not elected. The FBI and the CIA should be ashamed of themselves. They are not doing what the stated intention of the agencies are and that is pathetic at best.

      I am surprised that even our resident liberal is not appalled at intelligence agencies initiating surveillance activities on PURE heresay. I am not surprised that the FISA warrants were issued on heresay evidence but I am surprised at our highest policing agencies (FBI and CIA)..have been bought off.

      I hope that the Senate stays on course and does away with the charges but, now, I am not going to hold my breath on it. I wonder how far the corruption goes…..just…..how….far.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        Now the most TELLING statement in all this goes back to Trump’s inauguration and Chuck Schumer’s comment that if you go after the intel agencies, they will bury you! I dunno if we can beat these F—-ers.

        I was serious a few months back when I said that Obama ran NOTHING. It was all done by others. Maybe I should have been sceptical of VP Cheney cause Bush was dumb as a rock.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        And …………….. “I know when someone is pissin on my boot and trying to tell me it is raining”.

        One of my favorite silly/funny movies.

  41. Just A Citizen says:

    Re; the Ukraine investigation relating to the Crowd Strike and Hillary’s computer.

    When challenged recently about why the FBI did not DEMAND that the DNC turn over the server and instead relied on the DNC contractor to give them the information they wanted in finished form, and then used that to announce Russia, Russia, Russia, the FBI person responded: “We use independent security contractors like them all the time to provide analysis”.

    So……….. not one inkling that there is a problem with this argument. Not only that but this statement has been used to claim the accusation of Crowd Strike and DNC shennanigans as being “debunked”. I do not recall who in the FBI made that statement. But they should be FIRED for inability to see the obvious.

    • JAC…see above…..this is really, really serious.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Colonel

        My dear Texican friend, I absolutely agree. We are entering some deep and dark waters. In the end I expect the Blob to protect itself. Even Barr. Oh, there might be a few lambs sacrificed but in the end it will be “a few bad actors broke protocol” and that is the “end of it”.

        Nobody will wake up and realize just how deep the rot is and how we have built an “INSTITUTIONAL” mindset in a “MASSIVE BUREAUCRACY” that runs the country behind closed doors. I am not convinced that a small Cabal runs this, I don’t think they do. But once this kind of thing becomes set, which it is, it is only a matter of time before someone or someones get control of it and turn it against us. Or at least half of us.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Colonel

        When I was in the Trade Association business my boss explained it quite well at a BOD meeting. One where our principles were demanding we go after the head of an agency, to get them removed.

        He said, “If you go after a Bureaucrat you had better know going in you are going to succeed. Because if you fail and only wound him, the agency will surround him and do everything to destroy you in his defense. No matter how bad his crime or his ineptitude. No matter if they agree with you. They will fight to the death to save him and destroy you. Now…. how many of you here are absolutely sure we can get to this guy?” Nobody raised their hand.

  42. Just A Citizen says:

    Mathius…………………… :PLZ take the time to read this article. There is a very important piece of info included, although that is not the only reason I am asking. Note the MEDIA effort to create an illusion over this issue. Why? Is it just their attempt to get revenge on Trump for criticizing them? What?

    https://www.redstate.com/jeffc/2019/12/09/progressives-stop-pretending-care-foreign-election-meddling/

  43. Equine Weapon says:

    (2nd attempt because Gman is a fascist)

  44. A few morning thoughts:

    Watching the Liberal media suddenly support a law enforcement agency is sickening. If this investigation were on a Clinton, they would be LIVID.

    Some in the FBI are in trouble.

    John Brennen lied to Congress about his use of the Steele Dossier, per the Horowitz report. Will he be charged?

    Peter Stzrok is as biased as they come, politically. For anyone to claim that bias had no bearing on his work is lying to themselves and the public.

    Everyone who signed the FISA warrant applications should be charged with every possible crime on the books concerning their action. If Mathius or I would have done that, we would be pen pals in the Pen 😀

    Along with all the good things Trump has accomplished, he has totally exposed the biased media and lunacy of the Crats and the existence of a powerful unelected shadow government (Deep State). Is there one agency that the people can feel trustworthy about?

    Saw some polls (for what it’s worth) from Pa and Wisconsin. Trump is now beating every Crat, bigly. The impeachment game has failed, miserably. I now consider a Crat majority as a major problem in DC. They do not care about the people, they care about power, which they will clearly abuse when they have it. I’m bordering on treasonous for their actions.

    I’m also sick and tired of the LBGTQ BS. Live your life but leave the rest of us out of it.

    Are we headed toward Civil War II ?

    • Almost forgot this one: The Patriots were caught filming the Bengals during the Browns game. While this, on the surface, seems innocent, filming defensive signals can be very useful come gametime. Waiting on the outcome of the investigation, but, if found to be guilty of cheating, what should be the punishment?

      • Wait…..how can you say this…..the filming crew has stated they “did not know” about the NFL rule against this. I am aghast…nay….appalled…..that you would think that the Patriots would do anything to win….

        Hanging is…..blase’. Let us to the Comanche way….strip them naked and tie them behind horses and drag them through cholla cactus. That is step one…..do not kill them yet. Step Two….stake them face up looking into the sun with toothpicks hold their eyelids open….Step three, take the local mescal juice and cover their bodies ( fire ants love this stuff )…the fire ants will slowly strip their flesh as they live screaming at the pain…Step Four, build small camp fire with mesquite smoke (locals know that this draws turkey vultures) and let the turkey vultures eat their eyes while still alive…

        This process takes about 48 hours to kill you……a slow, agonizing, painful death that will have you begging for mercy killing…..sit under your sun shade with an ice cold beer and watch the festivities.

        IF this fails, then give the Patriots to Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett. That will certainly kill them.

        ———-

        You are now returned to your regularly scheduled programming.

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          Surely you jest. How could our beloved native Americans who existed in harmony with each other and of course nature could not have done this. Unless that is they were TAUGHT it by the white man!

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Colonel

          Oh my God………… you didn’t, did you…………….. “IF this fails, then give the Patriots to Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett. That will certainly kill them.”

          I just spit coffee all over the desk……………. oh it hurts.

    • Watching the Liberal media suddenly support a law enforcement agency is sickening. If this investigation were on a Clinton, they would be LIVID.

      Watching the conservatives suddenly turn on a law enforcement agency after years of pretending they were the sole supporters of law enforcement is sickening about what I expected.

      if [the Patriots] are found to be guilty of cheating, what should be the punishment?

      Death by hanging.

      • Had some formatting issues there… trying again…

        Watching the Liberal media suddenly support a law enforcement agency is sickening. If this investigation were on a Clinton, they would be LIVID.

        Watching the conservatives suddenly turn on a law enforcement agency after years of pretending they were the sole supporters of law enforcement is sickening about what I expected.

        if [the Patriots] are found to be guilty of cheating, what should be the punishment?

        Death by hanging.

        • Watching the conservatives suddenly turn on a law enforcement agency after years of pretending they were the sole supporters of law enforcement is sickening about what I expected.

          Now your just making shit up…again. Conservatives are NOT turning on the FBI. Everyone makes it quite clear this has had nothing to do with the rank and file. Maybe you should do some better research. The only folks that are under the gun are those at the top under Obama who violated the FISA warrant program. They should be hung…next to Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi.

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            Waco, Ruby Ridge and the case I was involved with in federal Court in 1992. F— the feds. Which, by the way is how most NYPD cops feel about them. Sean Hannity can kiss their federal asses as much as he wants but Eddie Egan of “French Connection” fame had them pegged right.

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            And again, the very same people who would not trust a law enforcement agency to investigate itself now trusts a law enforcement agency to investigate itself. Besides, one would have to be an absolute idiot to believe that the sheer number of “errors”: committed by the FBI, CIA and DOJ and pointed out clearly in the report were “accidental”. If they were, the places should be cleaned out for total ineptitude.

  45. The impeachment articles are about abuse of power and obstruction. I have not heard anything about Ukraine which started the latest round. By dropping Ukraine, the Dems avoid having the Bidens, Schiff and the whistleblower testify in the Senate.

    • I believe the Republicans can call whoever they want, including those you mentioned. Obstruction of Congress is DOA. They are not above the Administrative Branch, they are equals, thus, they would have to go through the courts to settle the dispute. Waste of tax dollars. Abuse of Power….BWAHAHAHA! That’s a projection if I ever heard of.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      T-Ray

      I don’t think so because the two articles are in fact linked to Ukraine. I do think they kept them broad in hopes of having Senate Dems drag in evidence from the Mueller report. But the R’s will control the process, along with Roberts, so I don’t know if this ploy will work.

      Evidence has to be presented to the Senate. It is unclear what “evidence” will be presented. Don’t be shocked to find tons of stuff included in the transmittal from the House. Stuff not directly mentioned in the Articles.

  46. “That’s only happened twice in our nation’s history. It happened in 1860 when the Democrats refused to accept the legitimate election of Abraham Lincoln,” the lawmaker said.
    “It happened again in 2016 when the Democrats refused to accept the legitimate election of Donald Trump.”

    https://www.westernjournal.com/twice-american-election-results-rejected-times-democrats-gop-rep-mcclintock/

  47. Just A Citizen says:

    Funny how the headline stories about the IG report seem to go against the actual findings buried within it.

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2019/12/10/ig-report-steele-briefed-reporters-met-with-clinton-lawyers-asked-fbi-about-announcing-investigation-into-trump-team/

  48. WASHINGTON, D.C.—House Democrats today announced a new plan to ensure Trump wins the White House again in 2020.

    “We hereby unveil these articles of impeachment, which clearly lay out the undeniable fact that we will not win the White House back next year,” said Rep. Jerry Nadler. “We have found Trump guilty of absolutely nothing, but we already started this whole process and it would look bad to back out now, so here we are.”
    “I declare here and now that Trump will be in the White House for at least another four years.”
    Some questioned if this was the best strategy, but Democrats pointed out that with four more years of Trump, they will be able to generate far more outrage than if they took back the White House. “It’s a lot more fun to be extremists and scream at the sky for years and years instead of proposing policies that most Americans support and actually win elections.”

    • WASHINGTON, D.C.—As Nancy Pelosi held a press conference along with other House Democrats to announce that they would be introducing articles of impeachment against President Trump, Pelosi reportedly blinked out a cry for help in morse code.

      Observant viewers noticed Pelosi was blinking out some kind of pattern.
      “Hey, it’s morse code!” said one Fox News reporter. “Let’s see what she’s saying.” Investigative journalists wrote down the complex series of dashes and dots blinked out by Pelosi, and sure enough, a message emerged.
      “I am being held hostage by the Squad, STOP.” she blinked out. “I am impeaching Trump against my will, STOP. They are currently holding my family in a warehouse down by the docks, STOP. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is standing right behind this curtain holding a fully automatic 30-clip assault rifle revolver handgun, STOP. If I try to get off the impeachment train, who knows what they will do, STOP.”
      “Please send help, STOP.”
      All the while, she continued to give her speech saying that she absolutely supports impeachment against President Trump 100%. The FBI sent a SWAT team down to the warehousing district and sure enough, three figures were throwing Pelosi’s family into the Potomac while they wore concrete shoes. They managed to save the family, but the remaining members of the Squad got away in their clown car.

  49. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    So, this afternoon in Jersey City, the police intercepted two people in a stolen van parked in a cemetery dressed in black. Shots were fired and one officer died. The suspects then headed to a Kosher supermarket across town where after killing three, they engaged in a gun battle with police injuring two more officers, held out for two more hours before being killed. A suspected bomb was found in the van. According to authorities, there is NO indication of terrorism.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      The male killer was a member of the BLACK Hebrew Israelites. Last week the same couple apparently killed a cab driver in Bayonne NJ because he had a “Jewish” sounding name. This is the fourth anti-semitic attack in the metro area in a week All were black on Jewish.

      Interesting!

  50. https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/10/ig-report-confirms-schiff-fisa-memo-media-praised-was-riddled-with-lies/

    Funny how the dems can be so wrong when I assume they see the same information.

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