Hostage Politics

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  1. New thread time.

  2. It wasn’t long ago that Trump said HE was in charge of restarting the country. The results were “NO Sir, you are not”, by the governors. The media also said the same. I agreed that it should be up to the States to do this as they see fit. Poof, this is exactly what happened as Trump outline the recommendations to do all of this, but leaves it up to the States. This is what Trump wanted, in my opinion, to have the State governors having skin in the game, and taking the brunt of blame, should stuff go bad. Trump has handled this as well as could be expected and unlike some governors, actually applied the Bill of Rights to his actions, namely the 10th Amendment. Too bad the same can’t be said of some governors.

    • This is what Trump wanted, in my opinion

      This seems to be your opinion an awful lot… not matter what happens, why, or how, it always seems to come back – in your opinion – to being exactly what he wanted all along.

      It’s almost as if everything that happens feeds into some kind of bias for confirmation… some kind of “confirmation bias,” if you will.

      • OK, what would you do in the same situation?

        • OK, what would you do in the same situation?

          I would start by NOT claiming “absolute authority” I don’t have.

          Going back a bit further, I would have convinced Trump’s mother not to have sex with his father.

          • I would start by NOT claiming “absolute authority” I don’t have.

            It a political move. Let them scream NO, then they can get what they asked for. If there are any setbacks, it falls on THEM, not Trump. Freaking brilliant political move. Plus it shuts up the “it’s Trump’s fault” crowd. They can’t blame him for anything.

            • Exactly. He does it time and time again. Plant the seed, get them all fired up, then he acts according to the outcry. He either runs with the original idea, or uses input from the outcry to come to a SOLUTION. They get (here ya go V) STUCK IN THE PROCESS. The process, according to the experts, will last until there is a vaccine….18 months or so. That ain’t gonna happen. In the meantime, we deal with more TDS.

              ::::waiting for Matt to blast me on this. Bring it. :::::

  3. ATLANTA, GA—CNN finally gave a detailed report on Biden’s sexual assault allegations on its evening broadcast Thursday.

    “Well, looks like something has happened with Biden,” said a CNN anchor. “For more details on this possible scandal, we go now to our revered correspondent, Mr. Cricket. Cricket, your thoughts?”
    The cricket chirped for a full three minutes, representing the full extent of the coverage that viewers would receive over Biden’s sexual assault accusations. When he had finished chirping, they moved the cricket back into his cage for the next time they needed a detailed report on a Democratic scandal. The cricket was very busy during the Obama years.
    “There you have it — all the coverage you’re going to get out of us on the Biden thing.”

  4. “Recent press reports include incremental data for GILD’s pipeline antiviral drug Remdesivir (NUC inhibitor) in COVID patients treated as part of the ongoing company-sponsored Ph3 studies. Per the reports the data are from a single clinical site in Chicago and include specifics on mortality, hospital discharge and fever reduction, which appear to build on the growing body of data suggesting Remdesivir could be a potential treatment for COVID-19. However, we caveat that these data have not been released/verified by GILD, are from a single center, and do not include a comparison among the various arms of the trials.

    The bottom line is we await definitive results from the full Remdesivir GILD Ph3 studies expected later this month (severe patients) and in late May (moderate patients).”

    ———

    This is obviously great news.

    That said, per the above, the results are preliminary and from a single study at a single center, aren’t double-blind, etc, so we shouldn’t get our hopes up just yet.

    Gilead’s stock is up a bunch, however.

    ———

    Just a note that this is NOT the drug Trump has been hawking like a used car salesman.

    • Just a note that this is NOT the drug Trump has been hawking like a used car salesman.

      If it works, He will in time, like maybe today’s briefing 😛

      • I expect that, by the end of the day, he will not only be hawking the new medicine, but that he will claim he has always been hawking that one, that he knew it would be effective before anyone else, and you will fight tooth and nail to justify the assertion that he never pushed the other pill.

        “Oceania was at war with Eastasia: Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”

    • China is trying to patent remdesivir, but Gilead developed it. Don’t really understand how all that works . But it can’t be good, sounds like stealing to me, which might give them control of the drug??????? Or maybe just control in China?????

    • A report on the drug being hawked by used car salesman Mathius.

      https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/gilead-stock-jumps-after-report-reveals-early-data-for-remdesivir-trial

      “Remdesivir is not yet licensed or approved anywhere globally and has not been demonstrated to be safe or effective for any use.”

      https://www.drugs.com/history/remdesivir.html

      Chloroquine is approved and proved safe. So per our resident used car salesman, we should wait months for this drug to be approved instead of using the drugs at hand.

    • Is there any actual evidence it started in the lab. I mean, it’s fishy, sure.. but evidence?

      • I’ve read numerous articles on the virus and the supposed bat that this virus comes from was never available at the wet market, it’s from over 1000 miles away. There’s that. Also, read that patient one was an employee at the lab and infected her boyfriend, don’t know if that’s true, but considering the intel reports on the lab safety protocols, it makes some sense.

        Since China never let our CDC people into the hot zone at the beginning, it’s likely that we may never know absolutely. My best guess, a lab mistake. Then China sat on it.

      • thelonestarconnection says:

        To answer your question formally…..there is no “produced” evidence that it is lab started.

        How’s that?

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Let us all fall back on “Occam’s Razor” Do you believe “Bat Soup” or do you believe somebody tore a glove in a lab or stepped in a spill?

      Personally, in a place like China, had I made a mistake and exposed myself, outside of the very human fear that I would be quarantined, or fired, in China I would really have to worry about being incinerated on the spot after hopefully being shot first. And, that is NO joke.

      • Do you believe “Bat Soup” or do you believe somebody tore a glove in a lab or stepped in a spill?

        Generally speaking, I would lean toward bat soup.

        Bats are well-known reservoirs of huge amounts of disease. A spillover event, given enough contact and poor sanitation, etc was all but inevitable. Epidemiologist have been screaming to the rafters about almost exactly this for years. I saw a paper on in from 2007, I saw a Bill Gates TED talk from 4 or five years ago, Obama’s team gave Trump’s team almost this exact scenario.

        I’d further suggest that, were China cooking up a superbug, that it would be far more deadly than low single-digit percentages. Ideally, you want something vector-based.

        Personally, in a place like China, had I made a mistake and exposed myself, outside of the very human fear that I would be quarantined, or fired, in China I would really have to worry about being incinerated on the spot after hopefully being shot first. And, that is NO joke.

        A) That’s completely true and

        B) People who are exposed don’t always know they’ve been exposed. The last death from Smallpox was from a lab in the UK and they never found out how she caught it, nor why she was the only one. (the professor studying it, from whose lab it presumably escaped, killed himself, leaving behind a note apologizing for failing to live up to the trust that had been placed in him).

        • thelonestarconnection says:

          I’d further suggest that, were China cooking up a superbug, that it would be far more deadly than low single-digit percentages. Ideally, you want something vector-based.

          Not necessarily, Padewan. All you have to do is render a unit or country ineffective below 80%…and the deed is done. We cannot fight a prolonged war at 80% strength and logistics.

          As far as economics is concerned……look at what this has done.

          As for me, and most of us in the know, the jury is still out on whether this is lab produced or “wet” produced. The coincidence to a brand new weapons bio lab is just……………………………………………well……………………………hmmmm.

  5. thelonestarconnection says:

    Sir Mathius…as I was re-reading some of your posts, I did not see this statement … No, that’s what the government is there for…

    This is really bothersome to me and to this old fart, a statement that it is up to the government to “take care” of its people. I have heart burn from this…..it is NOT up to the government to wrap its arms around the populace and solve problems.

    I find it interesting that your definition of “No, that’s what the government is there for… to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, etc.” And you put establish justice and promote the general welfare in bold…..and this was in connection to entitlements and payouts and such………..

    Interesting how you see the government has an obligation to take care of the poor (promote the general welfare).

    I do not see much difference in the definition of “a well regulated militia” and the definition of the term militia with us gun nuts…..as the definition of “promote the general welfare” is with your left wing liberal definition of entitlements.

    The government should not be in the business of “taking care” of anybody. It should be in the business of defense and commerce.

    • Kids are homeschooling.. we’re going over the states.

      Just got into a big argument with my 4 year old over whether Texas or Alaska is bigger.

      She now thinks we need to re-draw all the maps to account for Alaska’s proper size and, in her words “put Texas back in its place.”

      Thought you’d appreciate that.

  6. thelonestarconnection says:

    Look how far we have digressed from being independent.

    On the local news this morning, they were interviewing a lady with her child in government supplied housing. She was complaining and bashing Trump because this virus has slowed our procedures down….she was upset that the CHIP program and the SNAP program were late with their payouts. She was particularly upset that the IRS sent HER money to the bank account of her tax preparer. She blamed Trump for the problem because HER money from the government is late and part of it went to the wrong account.

    It was the attitude, and I know I am going to get the racist comment from Mathius on this, but it is where I see the failure of government…….This was a fat black chic, very well dressed…sitting on the steps of government housing with an impeccably dressed, well fed child with fancy dreadlocks and two…count em…two cell phones. She commented that they are old now and not up to date since Trump dissolved the cell phone program. She went on to say that in these days and times and the technology has advanced, that she needs new government supplied cell phones to stay up to date. (her words)

    Asked if she had a job or was laid off, her answer was my job is my child. The only good thing about this interview, I was surprised to learn that she had a tax preparer……now, what would a poor person need a tax preparer for? I would post, that in my opinion, this is a common issue. Sucking of the government teat.

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    Dr. Pepper time.

    • thelonestarconnection says:

      It upset me so much that I sent a Comanche Shaman into his area to turn all the egg laying hens into roosters.

    • I remember being chastised in one of my first posts on this site by Buck the Walla. It was over a photo at a soup Kitchen of Michelle O. In the photo was a line of people waiting for soup holding out their fancy expensive phones to get a photo of her. My comment was about choices. They chose a fancy phone over paying for food. Funny I still have and use the same flip phone I had then. Their phones, even though dated are still better than mine.

  7. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    A very sad thing I have noticed. Among my correspondents in the Northeast world, there seems to be an aversion to re-opening anytime soon (like in 2020). Further, these folk are all financially ok by either being old and retired on an adequate fixed income or young with secure jobs,civil service or legal profession types.

    When you bring up to them that this shutdown is literally killing people in the working classes, as we used to say on the block….they could give two shits.

    I’ve started an apparent war by suggesting that Mayor DeBlasio, in the big city, announcing schools are done, summer Youth employment programs are toast, the summer play and camp programs are cancelled and worst of all ALL public pools will not open this year period, is playing to the worst fears of fools and guaranteeing, I fear, a long, hot summer in NY City.

    When questioned about the last, I point out that a leader encourages hope, DeBlasio is far from that. Some, correctly assumed I was actually giving a thumbs up to DJT AND Cuomo. Well, of course, they ignored Cuomo and immediately attacked me for supporting the liar DJT and now, the killer DJT. One woman, whom I used to respect despite her lib creds. actually posted, “Where are Lee harvey Oswald and John Wilkes Booth when we need them”. Needless to say she is now anathema.
    .

    Funny how liberals usually love all things European yet in this instance, the data on treatment out of France is being lumped in with snake oil salesmen and the re-opening of Mainland Europe is being ignored as is the current Swedish experiment.

    • thelonestarconnection says:

      I just got back from a trip to Home Depot. It is open, obviously, but controlled. I did notice, however, on the drive over there….Discount Tire is open, Christian Brothers Automotive is open, two gun ranges are open (this is Texas, we do not close gun ranges for anything). Walmart is open, the Target was open. All gas stations are open. Construction crews are everywhere working on whatever projects they have. Bowling Lanes will be open on May 1. Golf courses are open…..for walking only.

      The only thing that I saw closed were restaurants except for drive through. While in Home Depot, I noticed that 1 in 10 are wearing masks. I noticed that 3 in ten had gloves. The rest are practicing some distancing abut are shopping. I wear gloves for handling money and door handles and such..but no mask. Got what I wanted and left.

      Went by the Whattaburger and picked up some drive through. I noticed that the employees were not wearing masks or gloves..could not see into the kitchen. The young lady that brought me my fast food had no gloves. All this in a county where we have just 13 cases and no deaths.

      Our governor is going to issue guidelines to go by but for all practical purposes, he says with economics there is risk. We will start opening the state on May 1….but it looks practically open now.

      • thelonestarconnection says:

        By the way, the military dismantled all the extra hospital units in all 5 cities and went home. They were not being used.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        Summary of the last few days out and about.

        Pretty much as the Colonel describes. Except we have a Lowes not a Home Depot. I needed some yard maintenance material. Just in case they had long lines because of limiting people in the store. I ordered and paid online. Within 30 minutes the store emailed my order was ready for Pickup. They had a whole section of the parking lot set up for curbside pickup. You could go inside to a section they created. You showed the order receipt and the person went to the shelf where they put it and handed to you. They were not limiting people in the rest of the store and people maintained social distancing and the place was booming. Contractors picking up loads for their jobs

        The side of the road with the lowes has a walmarts in a big mall. Parking lot full and stores busy. The books-a-million just asked to check their website to see if the book is in stock on the shelf. If so they said, well pull it and bring it out to you. If not in the store just order it and itll be delivered to your house.

        But the mall across the road was closed period. Lot of national stores and their headquarters dictated them to close.

        Banks all installed “live teller” ATM’s or just use it like a normal ATM. Easy to use as soon as you found all the scanning slots.

        Restaurants eat in only “Closed” especially national chains like Ruby Tuesday. Fine by me. The normal drive thru restaurants booming business.

        Many of the chef owned restaurants shifted entirely to take out. They revised their menus to be more conducive to take out than fancy dining which does not travel well. They all can sell alcohol as long as the bottle stays sealed. Get wines from their list and beers they preferred you to buy the 6 pack and only marked it up a little from the grocery store price. The novel thing one did was make up drink kits. If it was requiring hard spirits you had to provide that on your own besides the ABC stores charge a big tax to restaurants cheaper for you to buy your own. But all other kits involved wines so they included the sealed bottle. Still spent $40 on my take out lunch. It is NOT fast food.

        Stopped to get some more IPA at my grocery store. The other day they got in a truck delivery of paper towel. They not only filled the shelf area but had pallets in free space areas in the store. They must have gotten all the back orders.

        But this time they had gotten a truck of TP.. the store itself can not limit purchases but need approval from headquarters. People were buying shopping carts full. Loading them in their vehicle and going back in for another load. I’m sure by days ed they were stripped if every roll. I watched one lady loading her van that already was full in the back with TP. One very noticable thing was these were all older people hoarding.

        As far as recreation. Obviously group activities are canceled. But no boating hunting or fishing is restricted in any way, but by normal regulations. The only added clarification is maintain social distancing. Try and boat with family only. Etc. As for the beaches and camp grounds. The beaches are technically open but. Bathroom facilities are closed. So that also effectively closes campgrounds also. But what closes the beaches is in almost all cases the local community owns the parking lots and bathrooms. They closed them. As long as you can get to the beach without trespassing or by boat and park legally use the beach all you want. Every other barrier island is National Seashore and uninhabited. The ferries to them are closed because they’re small boats and require close contact. But as long as you have your own vessel or kayak etc have a great day.

        But occasionally an officer of the law takes to extreme his power and goes overboard. They would have been a Brown shirt or Gestapo in germany. There are alway those embedded anywhere.

        All our major manufacturing is open as are their suppliers.

        Me I’m as busy as I want to be.

    • Best response I ever heard from a Liberal “I thought Obamacare was the best thing ever, until I learned I was paying for it”.

    • Viruses die in sunlight.

  8. On the virus. Except for the conspiracy theorists, I don’t think anyone is accusing China of “Making” the virus. It’s more like they harvested the virus from captured bats and was conducting experiments, which we would all hope was to find a vaccine. An incident could have gone completely unnoticed and undiscovered for some time. But, if there are any questions, it’s because of China’s response once they knew.

    I caught something about the UK possibly leading the world in Covid-19 deaths soon, I’ll have to research it more.

    • thelonestarconnection says:

      I would vote for Hillary Clinton before I would trust China.

      • I think “never, ever” applies to voting for HRC and trusting China. The former would cause severe depression from doing something so incredibly stupid 😛

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Yes and at the press conference a few minutes back, it was not if the virus “escaped” the lab but rather was it “engineered” in the lab. A deliberate mis-direction which Dr. Fauci gleefully jumped onboard for.

  9. thelonestarconnection says:

    So, how about little Taiwan…….Dateline April 15, 2020 ….a Cessna 152 flies over a Chinese Naval Aircraft carrier 30 miles off the Taiwan coast and drops a flour sack for a direct hit amidships on their carrier deck and returns home safely. Any bets on whether that task force commander, the Carrier Commander, and the Air Fleet Commander will have a job or a firing squad on their return home?

    Bets, anyone?

    • I’d bet on a firing squad for all of them. That flour could have been a bomb and \ or mistaken for a bomb.

      • Is this a true story? I’m thinking hitting an aircraft with something with the aerodynamics of a sack of flour is staggeringly hard even without the possibility of getting blown out of the sky.

        Meanwhile, to answer your question:
        A) The lowest man on the totem pole’s job upon his return will be to execute the second lowest.
        B) Second lowest will be responsible for executing the third lowest.

        ….

        H) Fleet commander simply disappears off the face of the earth.

        • thelonestarconnection says:

          Yes to the story……apparently they dropped three sacks of flour out of the aircraft. only one hit…….but even if it had missed, how did a private aircraft get within eye sight of a carrier much less close enough to drop a sack of flower.

          That said…..maybe the pilot of the Cessna 152 needs a direct commission in the Air Force… If he is good enough to get next to a carrier, drop a sack of flour, and even hit the damn thing, he needs to be signed up.

          The story, however, is being verified. If it turns out to be untrue, will post it but so far, this is reliable intelligence.

  10. U.S.—Democrats have finally turned on Planned Parenthood after the organization announced its new puppy abortion program.

    Many thought Democrats would defend anything and everything Planned Parenthood does, but it seems they’ve finally done something Democrats are willing to criticize: killing puppies in the womb.
    The abortions for dogs are performed under the organization’s new “Planned Puppyhood” program. Planned Parenthood calls the program “Female Dog Healthcare” and says it is necessary for a dog’s health and emotional well-being. “Her litter, her choice,” the program’s slogan goes. “Kill puppies — no matter what.” They will also be selling aborted puppy parts to the highest bidder.
    “This is outrageous!” shouted one protester at a Portland Planned Parenthood clinic. “Planned Parenthood is murdering precious little dogs, pretending that it’s just canine healthcare. They are participating in a modern-day holocaust that will end millions of cute little puppy lives. They are profiting off the murder of the unborn puppies. This is totally out of character for them! I can’t believe they would do something like this.”
    Democrats say they will end their protests if Planned Parenthood agrees to go back to just killing human babies.

  11. If only there was something like… this… https://i.imgur.com/eojp7oH.png

    Ohhh.. there is…. It’s just that Donald “the best at the military” Trump and his administration didn’t feel like it.

    After an outcry, USAA folded: “USAA Changes Policy, Will Return Emergency Coronavirus Payments to Customers”

    • thelonestarconnection says:

      Hmmm…..USAA is an expertly run organization….I happen to know a very high up muckety muck in San Antonio……I called him and asked. His answer was…there is no f******* way that happened.

      I have been with them since 1972……..I would be GREATLY surprised. But, if they did this…….for real…….shame on them and that would be the first blight on an impeccable record as far as I am concerned.

      However, I have yet to see my check…….oh, wait, I will not receive one.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Pretty stupid and at that an exaggeration. This Am Trump attacked Cuomo for not saying thanks to the Ship, Army Corps of Engineers and others involved in the rapid response to NY requests. Cuomo then attacked Trump by saying “I’ve thanked him (Trump) many times. Guess which version will get airplay?

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Stealing my story of how my cousin won two baby ducklings at a carnival. Took them to Grandma’s farm where they had the run of teh place for years and then turned up on the Easter table. You should have seen the look on cousin Connie’s face. The tears, the screams. Immigrants, especially farmer immigrants let NOTHING either go to waste or live rent free.

    • This graph is misleading and incorrect. The curve does not go back to zero unless there is some other intervention such as a universally applied vaccine. Until then, the infection will continue at some steady state until herd immunity is achieved if every. In the meanwhile, we will destroy the economy, have TP riots if not food riots and a general civil war. The death rate for this virus is not much worse than the common flu. The flatten the curve excuse for this shut down was to allow time for manufacturing to ramp and meet the needs of the healthcare community. That is happening. It is time to remove the restrictions. We can still social distance, clean, install more sterilization equipment, etc. Continuing this shut down will cause more harm than it will solve.

      Sometimes I think Mathius you have a vested interest in seeing this turn into a depression just to spite DJT. Did you short the market expecting it to drop below 16K?

      • Sometimes I think Mathius you have a vested interest in seeing this turn into a depression just to spite DJT.

        I’d be lying if I said the thought hadn’t crossed my mind.

        I’ve also spoke here about my conviction that the Blue Team, if not deliberately making things worse (at least, not PROVABLY deliberate) for the economy are absolutely giddy about the prospect of the economy hurting Trump.

        Did you short the market expecting it to drop below 16K?

        Yes.

        Yes I did.

        I shorted.. aggressively..

        And, what’s more, I advised you and everyone else on SUFA to do so as well.

        And did you?

        • I bought

          • Next time, maybe you’ll listen to your buddy, Mathius.

            I paid off a significant chunk of my mortgage.

            • thelonestarconnection says:

              The average investor cannot do this. It is a crap shoot. The only people who can reliably short…are those with inside information…..meaning, those who have knowledge of trends and can see them forth coming. Investing is a big boys game……nothing simple about it.

              • thelonestarconnection says:

                You bet on the don’t…..and I see people do that all the time in Vegas…and sometimes, some people win…but most do not.

              • The average investor cannot do this.

                Sure you can.

                Call your advisor and say “position for me for the economy shitting the bed.”

                Or sign up for a TD Ameritrade or E*Trade account and buy yourself some long-dated put options.

                The only people who can reliably short…are those with inside information…..meaning, those who have knowledge of trends and can see them forth coming.

                All you have to do is look at the stock market and ask yourself “is this reasonable or is it a bubble”? And if it’s a bubble – and it certainly is – then it’s going to implode. The only question is when, not if.

                The only people who can reliably short…are those with inside information…..meaning, those who have knowledge of trends and can see them forth coming.

                Or, I mean, you could have just listened to your pal, Mathius…..

  12. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Here’s a though to consider.

    https://www.curetoday.com/articles/how-covid19-affects-patients-with-cancer.

    Not a cure but initial studies indicate that patients undergoing cancer treatments especially older people have had severe reactions when they contact covid 19. With a very high rate of death. Chemo therapy kills your immune system and geez….what are the ultimate symptoms pneumonia

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      A friend in Poughkeepsie has a daughter who lives in Gardiner across the Hudson. This little crossroads hamlet has had 6 deaths attributed to Covid-19. The one thing most notable with the area is apple orchards and vineyards. What do they do….spray pesticides what happens to the sprayers….they get cancer at a very high rate. As a kid living just up the road from there the sprayers literally backed up to the houses and spread the thick fog of pesticide in the air. We definitely were locked down during that season. The growers wore NO masks that u remember. Uncles and cousins of mine who switched to chemical fertilizers instead of natures own manure. All died from cancers those that stayed within what nature provided lived extremely long lives. Most clustered at 97.

  13. Just A Citizen says:
    • If you shut down the liquor stores, society will collapse. And that’s a fact.

      Abortion clinics are medical facilities whether you like it or not. Also, you don’t come into close contact with that many people, unlike….

      Churches where you can just as easily pray at home instead of sitting on packed pews for hours at a time.

  14. What’s everyone’s thoughts on bailing out State and local govts?

    Cuomo said they were broke when this thing started, which means no matter the emergency, they were simply not prepared. Now he’s screaming for Fed money to reopen.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      The great advantage to bailing everyone out will be the elimination of the need for toilet paper. They can use the devalued 1,000 bills for that just like Venezuela.

  15. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Even though I filed income tax, i did not make enough taxable income to actually even be required to file. But now that Turbotax FINALLY has a free version for both federal and state filing. I filed.

    As this stimulus check scenario evolves. The IRS says to receive the check direct deposit they created a link on the IRS.gov site to enter banking information.. seeing I owed no money nor received a refund I did not provide that information in my tax forms.

    I spotted a coding error in their application.. they ask for your adjusted gross income from your 2019 filing. Then they ask a two part question ■ did you receive a refund ■ do you owe money.

    You have to check one of the boxes. The next question is what was the amount of a refund you received or moneys owed.

    Obviously I received NO refund and I owed NO money because all my income is tax free. I entered 0 in the space provided.

    They needed a 3rd choice ■ I received NO refund and owed NO money .

    The app says due to technical problems we can not process your request “Start Over” yeah they have an illogical loop.

    Youd think they’d tie into the social security system because there that have direct deposit as a requirement and all my banking information is there. So I guess I have to be patient and get a paper check in the mail. Dont need it, but itll fund a trip to Charleston SC to look at a boat for sale and a trip to Colorado to visit a friend and deliver things for her new home up in the Rockies. But travel restrictions such as they are. Besides usually when her army reserve unit is called up for active duty she drops off all communication for the duration. They’re probably helping out in Colorado. She follows good secure protocol. No cell, no twitter, no Instagram, no facebook, no email or text. Her uncle is Gen Petraeus. Her grandfather was Gen Knowlton commandant of West Point in the 70’s

  16. WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats are scrambling to defend Brett Kavanaugh against his accusers after he put on a Joe Biden mask Friday morning.

    “We believe you are a great man of upstanding moral character, and we do not believe your accusers,” said Alyssa Milano to Justice Kavanaugh hiding behind the Biden mask. “It’s disgusting that people would try to capitalize on this political moment to drag your name through the mud, Mr. Biden.”
    “It is a disgrace — a disgrace I say! — that people are trying to discredit this great man!” shouted Senator Cory Booker, stabbing one finger in the air. “I will not stand for it! I am Joe Biden — you are Joe Biden. We are all Joe Biden! I! AM! SPARTACUS!”
    Nancy Pelosi quickly said, “I’m with him” and called those who would impugn his character “anti-American.”
    Kavanaugh then removed the mask and thanked them for their support, and they instantly shifted to attacking him and supporting his accusers 100%.

  17. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Just considering that the democrats are really pushing Rahm Emanuel’s adage to the Max. “Never let a good crisis go to waste” good opportunity for socialized taxpayer funded healthcare. Racial disparity, fix climate change, guaranteed income etc etc etc…we need to be more like europe.

    With this Covid-19 virus we’ve had in the US 33082 attributed deaths to the virus out of 328 Million people. That’s 0.01%

    Take western european nations the old EU before they started adding the former SovBloc nations, those western nations had approximately 380 Million people. Those nations have had to date 96122 deaths attributed to the virus. That’s 0.03%

    3X more deaths than the US and they all have the vaunted single payer tax socialized healthcare.

    What’s your verdict. Be more like Europe or be ourselves made up from ancestors that said SCREW Europe, I’m not getting anywhere in my homeland. Let’s go to America and be all that you can be.

  18. Dale A Albrecht says:

    With the dictatorial powers many of the governors have seized literally tearing up the Constitution and Bill of Rights, is our Republic Dead? Making sure everybody has a safe space.

    The absolute shit eating smirk Gov Murphy of NJ was sickening. The Bill if Righrs is above my pay grade. I took the advice of scientists

    There are a lots of indications SCIENTISTS created this F***ing crisis and let the genii out of the bottle. Better living through chemistry again scientists have created country that is far healthier than 50 years go. Like with a 6X rate of cancer than in 1970.

    I’ve said my supposition on a large % of the deaths are those that are receiving cancer treatments of chemo therapy that KILLS the very immune system required to fight this virus. These people are dying from pneumonia

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      Far LESS healthy..

      Common sense beats the experts in most cases. So many experts when giving interviews have these silly smirks on their faces. Which after long years of observation of people, they really di not believe what they’re saying

      Or boy are people really stupid enough to believe this whopper un trying to sell.. used car and snake oil salesmen come to mind

  19. Just A Citizen says:

    LAWS are not written by Angels nor are they written for Angels.

    They are written by Men, who suppose they could be Angels, for other Men they know will never be Angels.

    JAC
    4/18/2020

  20. Now that is the d*mn truth.

    • So true. The people who are politicizing this are feeding the distrust and noncompliance. A family member asked me early on if I thought this was all just overblown for political purposes. I said that it was certainly going to be politicized, but hospitals in Italy weren’t pretending to be overwhelmed for political purposes. We should all be taking it seriously, and pointing the finger of blame only makes that harder.

    • JAC – please re-read the above quote.

  21. WUHAN—In an alarming turn of events, workers at a Wuhan research lab were seen adjusting a sign that read “92 Days Since Accidentally Releasing a Virus,” taking down the 92 and replacing it with a zero.

    “Everything is still great here,” said President Xi Jinping to selected members of the press. “Nothing alarming has happened here… and certainly not for a second time.” Xi was wearing a hazmat suit, but he claimed that was because it was laundry day and that was the only thing he had left that was clean. The American press felt no need to ask any follow-up questions.
    A number of “Have You Seen Me?” posters depicting a coronavirus and giving a number to call were spotted around Wuhan, though again Chinese officials say there is nothing unusual there and nothing to worry about and if you develop a sneeze, isolate yourself — preferably in an airtight room — immediately.
    The Wuhan lab that adjusted the sign has been studying bat-related viruses for some time, though the main thing they’ve learned so far is how not to store viruses.

  22. Protests erupting after only 5 weeks. Kansas SC rules Church restrictions unconstitutional. Michigan governor should be jailed. Pelosi should be sitting next to her.

    My best guess is that for many of us, this shutdown has another month to go. Depends on the State, but I suggest we open up California and New York fully and see what happens 😛

  23. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    Is the Constitution dead?

    Well, it was battered from one end to the other by the forty years leading up to 9-11 but 9-11 done did it in! Now, this is NOT to say it cannot be redeemed. and some of that redemption may be the result of the overreaction to the pandemic. But, I always think back to the absolute guarantees that were enshrined into law after the Church Committee hearings to guarantee absolutely, positively that Nixonian abuses could NEVER happen again, that domestic security and law enforcement could NEVER spy on a citizen again and there we could NEVER get ourselves caught up in another Viet-nam.

    And just how well did that turn out?

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      These past 40 years have seen an ever increasing powerful Federal State. Violating the Constitution from a badtardization of the Commerce clause and the the Patriit Act that gave free rein to the intelligence and LEO agencies full access to everything for your safety. And backed by a SCOTUS ruling.

      But the reaction to the Covid-19 virus has taken us back to the post revolutionary war period and the driving factor in the creation of the Constitution. And that is the Articles of Confederation.

  24. thelonestarconnection says:

    Retail in Texas opening back up today. Governor Abbott says nothing is without risk. Shoppers and owners have a personal responsibility to maintain distance and sanitation needs. It is not a government function and I think that I, as Governor, fell victim to a large amount of hype that hurt the economy of Texas. It is time to stop it. People do not need a government to tell them what to do.

    Also when asked a question about travel and such his answer was equally to the point. He says people have TV sets and radios and internet. They know where the hot spots are. Do not travel nor do business in the hot spots.

    We shall see what happens.

  25. Dr. Oz said: “We need our mojo back. Let’s start with things that are really critical to the nation, where we think we might be able to open without getting into a lot of trouble. I tell you schools are a very appetizing opportunity. I just saw a nice piece in The Lancet [medical journal] arguing that the opening of schools may only cost us 2-3% in terms of total mortality. And you know, any life is a life lost, but to get every child back into a school where they’re safely being educated and being fed and making the most out of their lives with a theoretical risk on the backside, it might be a tradeoff some folks would consider.”

    Thoughts?

    • thelonestarconnection says:

      I think the risk on all of it is worth it. My bowling league starts back on May 1. I think that people understand the impact and will take the precautions. I was out today and saw more masks than I have ever seen……

      I think the risk is worth it and the Governor has relaxed a lot of things…..however, the proof is a month from now.

    • Schools would be the last thing I would reopen. it’s not really hurting the economy for kids to do school at home, and we all know that schools are germ factories.

      • Schools would be the last thing I would reopen.

        I know a lot of two-income families with kids… I have no idea how most of them could return to work full time without schools open.

  26. Canine Weapon says:

  27. Canine Weapon says:

    • thelonestarconnection says:

      I am not a religious person so I do not give a damn…..however……asking for donations is a far cry from demanding. I listened to him and I listened to the CNN reporter. There are two things that stand out in this interview.

      Non profits and faith based organizations have an opportunity to file for and receive help, just like any other person, place, or thing. This Pastor has said that they do not want to do this and place a greater burden upon our system….ok, kudos for that line of thinking.

      Asking for the donations of stimulus checks from people that receive them is ok, brazen, but ok provided they choose, to do so. That makes it a choice. I did not get the fact that there was any guilt feeling being placed upon anyone.
      ———————-

      • I did not get the fact that there was any guilt feeling being placed upon anyone.

        I see it as tantamount to “I speak for GOD and I say that he thinks you should give me your money… no pressure though.”

    • He can have my check! Oh wait, I didn’t get one.

      • My sister is annoyed that she hasn’t received hers yet.

        My two useless brothers both got theirs.

        Our nanny spent hers on a new iPhone.

        Per usual, I get bupkis.

        • thelonestarconnection says:

          Yeah…me too…I got the other bupkus

          • To be fair, you and I did get “something.”

            We get the bill!

            • thelonestarconnection says:

              True…….but it would have been nice that if we were going to get screwed, at least a courtesy reach around would have been nice.

              • Dale A Albrecht says:

                As the military saying goes “I don’t mind being screwed, but I’ll be damned if I’ll supply the vaseline”

              • 😮

              • As the military saying goes “I don’t mind being screwed, but I’ll be damned if I’ll supply the vaseline”

                This is a very bad saying.

                If I have to get screwed, I’d definitely want to provide copious amounts of vaseline…

    • Pastor: Please give me your money so I can do good deeds.

      Government: Give me your money or I will put you in jail. I will do what I want with the money.

  28. Informational without any politics!

    • thelonestarconnection says:

      Very interesting information on this one. Nice find.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Note on Flu vaccines. I did some asking this past fall of the health district doctors on how the vaccines are developed. While they keep harping on us to get the shot I pointed out that we had two waves last year and the vaccine was less than 25% effective on the second wave. She agree but argued that the vaccine does help reduce symptoms.

      But here was the interesting part, relative to the point made in the video, about trying to guess which strain is coming.

      Apparently the Vaccine experts START IN AUSTRALIA each year. Their winter is during our summer. And given the influence of Asia and European travelers there, that is where the testing first starts. Australia usually has the first outbreaks of the flu which we then get the following winter……..flue season.

      The search does not stop there by the way. They have kind of a set pattern of travel and testing. Moving from the land down under to SE Asia, China, Middle East, etc, etc.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      One other note on the video.

      If the anti bodies do not hang around, which is not known, then a Vaccine is of little use. Unless we are going to inoculate people twice a year or every year.

      So her summary of things won’t change until a vaccine is discovered seems a little unsubstantiated to me.

      • I read that one of the lessons from the 1918 pandemic was that patients housed outdoors recovered fast than those indoors. Also the staff was less likely to be infected. This is logical since any aerosol will be carried away by the wind. The UV component of sunlight is a natural sterilizer. Finally, sunlight triggers the body to make vitamin D which is a strong component in a healthy immune system. The annual flu strikes in the winter, when sunlight is weak, hence naturally produced vitamin D is low. I take vitamin D year around w/no flu shots. I have not had the flu and anything other than a mild cold for the last decade.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          T-Ray

          After years of being chastised by Spousal Unit Leader I succumb to the pressure and got my FIRST flu shot in October, or maybe early November.

          By the end of February I had come down with the nastiest case of “bronchitis” I have had in over 20 years. I have not had the “flu” in over a decade.

          So I told my loving wife that based on my case “the flu shot obviously caused me to be sick”. As it was the only variable that had changed since years past. Bwahahahahaha.

          Also gave in and got the Shingles vaccine.

          • I’m still holding out the Shingle thing. My wife is a completely different story. She is prone to pneumonia so we get all the shots for her. Some might say I need a distemper shot.

  29. Dale A Albrecht says:

    Yesterday I was reading the list of States that are involved with phase one of reopening. North Carolina was not on the list. With technically as few problems that we’ve had it us insane to not open up.

    But our governor Roy Cooper has no interest in opening things up. We have a Republican assembly but his edicts/EO’s are law.

    I was talking to the owner of the house I’m working on, when the weather is good. He’s very involved in politics. He said Roy Cooper is wanting to make 15 changes to the voting process in November. When he was our AG and the State overwhelmingly voted for Voter Id, he consistently not defend the State against the Obama DOJ lawsuits. When the State voted overwhelmingly to NOT allow the gender confused people to use the bathroom of their choice he again refused to defend the State against the Obama DOJ.

    He got elected Gov, not for any reason but the Republucan gov was terrible. He won by default. As governor he could not stop the voter Id laws to take effect and the Trump DOJ did not file lawsuits same with the bathroom stuff.

    But I’m positive with EO’s he’ll keep the stat at home order un place as long as he can and throw all the hard won election laws oyr the door. Or try to.

    If people can maintain Social distancing at a store they sure as hell can maintain the practice 7.5 months from now at a polling station. We do have curb side voting. On a designated day at the city offices.

  30. Dale A Albrecht says:

    The paper products aisles were stripped clean. The other day when shipments came in sufficient to fill the shelves and have pallets in open spaces people were buying shopping carts full and going back un for second helpings.

    I talked to one of the managers today that. She said it was ridiculous. Headquarters is the only group that can place restriction on how much of a product anyone can buy at any one time. They DIDNT . So the shelves were stripped by days end and NOW THERES NONE again.

  31. thelonestarconnection says:

    Interesting opportunity about to arise in the oil market. Those that have drilled wells where the bottom hole pressure is sufficient to flow without the use of pumps, cannot simply shut a well down because to do so, reduces or eliminated the bottom pressure. You cannot simply open the well back up.

    Those that have drilled or re-worked wells that have pumps on them are not dependent upon bottom hole pressure. This means that we can simply turn the pump off and restart it again.

    So, there is an opportunity out there for storage facilities. There is another opportunity out there for negative pricing in the oil patch. So, when the big boys have full storage, as they do now, they cannot shut their wells down and restart because most depend upon pressure ( unless they are in the shale business). Therefore, those of us who have set pumps…can sell out our inventory and, with negative pricing, the biggies will pay us to take their oil so they can keep pumping….and that means taking and not storing.

    For example, Mathius oil Company has deep wells and the oil is flowing without have to set casing and pumps…the demand for oil drops and his storage tanks are getting full. He has no place to get rid of his Texas Tea. He cannot shut his wells in because he loses bottom hole pressure and on deep wells to insert casing and pumps is almost as much as drilling a new one. He has sooooom much oil that he does not have a market for it. Russia and the Saudis are fighting each other but also tacitly know that it is hurting the US. They hated the fact that the US discovered shale oil. Mathius has used all the hold on the Hammer and has no where else to go…….

    So, he calls small producer, Sir JAC of Shale Oilville…….Do you have any storage, Sir JAC? Sir JAC knows that he has Mathius over the proverbial oil barrel. He knows that he can sell his inventory and shut down his wells because they are recoverable but he knows that Mathius will lose all his oil if he cannot store it…….so, JAC of Shale Oilville, says, I will sell my inventory to make room for yours….BUT….that means I am out of business and I am not in the storage business. BUT……I will take your oil so you can keep your oil flow going and save your wells, but I am not going to buy your oil. I do not need it…however, you pay me $5 bbl to take your oil and I will take the risk to sell it on my own and create additional space for your higher priced oil and keep your wells flowing.

    This is called negative pricing. It could happen very easily. Sir JAC of Shale Oilville is happy and cheers at the prospect of getting a bigger greenhouse built….and Mathius, bangs his head against the wall, crushes empty Red Bull cans with his teeth, shoots the Churro man, and has to give in. Pay someone to take his oil..

    ————————————-

    When one door shuts another is opened.

  32. DETROIT, MI—On Meet the Press Sunday, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer reminded everyone that “revolutions and revolts are simply un-American.”

    Whitmer called on the protesters in her state to stop their illegal assembling, reminding them that protesting so-called tyranny is a foreign idea to the history of the United States.
    “Protesting and revolting against your wise rulers goes against everything America was built on,” she said. “It flies in the face of every American tradition. Revolting against tyranny has no place in this great country.”
    Governor Whitmer then rattled off a long list of things that she also believes to be un-American:
    Declaring independence from tyrants
    Having a list of protected rights
    Separation of powers
    Democratically elected leaders
    Freedom of religion, assembly, the press, protests, and speech.
    Federalism
    Apple pie
    Baseball
    America
    “If you’re really Americans, you’ll stop with this dangerous revolutionary activity,” she concluded.

    • April 20 (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday he will be signing an executive order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States amid the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.

      “In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States,” Trump said in a tweet late on Monday.

  33. I was just thinking about the great state that I live in. We have beautiful scenery, an abundance of forest products, rich minerals deposits, some of the best universities in the world, great weather of all types profitably agriculture, great beaches ….

    We also have terrible K12 schools, rampant homelessness, uncontrolled wild fires, frequent blackouts, periodic water shortages followed by floods, incredibly high taxes, a high risk of major earthquakes, a one party political system, rampant illegal immigration with sanctuary, and now a statewide economic shutdown. We can’t cut the trees, dig the gold or frack for NG. We import lumber and aggregate with mountains of trees, granite and other rock.

  34. thelonestarconnection says:

    Open up the craps tables……..I am ready to play craps……..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  35. Could Trump rent oil storage space in the national reserve?

  36. thelonestarconnection says:

    April 21, 1836…..Texans under General Sam Houston surprised Antonion Lopez de Santa Anna at San Jacinto in a battle that lasted 18 minutes. He killed 630 of the Mexican Army and captured 730 more, including Santa Anna. The Texans suffered 9 killed and 32 wounded.

    Thus, Texas was born.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Hoo Hah!

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Just a FRIENDLY reminder that We Idahoans held out a lot longer than you Texicans. You pretty quickly ran to the US Govt to “join up”. In fact, you were so quick to run after the Snake Oil wagon you later withdrew. And what did ya’ll do once you had your Freedom back, you ran back to join again.

      Bwahahahahaha

      • thelonestarconnection says:

        Perhaps…….politics in Texas, at times, crazy. However, we do not have to put up with public lands being confiscated, we can fly our State flag at the same level as the US flag, there are no Federally owned lands in Texas…..all leased. We are allowed the only free standing reserve military unit dedicated to the State.

        You fellers from Idaho have…………..well, you do have potatoes.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          And we do have us some FEDERAL land. But Spousal Unit Leader is solving the “Sagebrush Rebellion” in Idaho. The STATE is now managing many federal lands, increasing outputs and NET revenues. The money goes back into a POT which the State then uses for the next project.

          It does not cover all federal lands or projects but it is far, far, far, more than existed just three years ago (which was none).

          I do admit to having mixed emotions about Federal Lands, especially when it is so much of the land area within the Intermountain States. As long as they don’t shut it all down to general access I will remain conflicted. But once they start acting like it is some private Federal Reserve, like they are currently, they will lose my support.

  37. Just A Citizen says:

    To all the “Don Lemons” of the world who think it is “Trump Supporters” who are out marching to open things up.

    These are the same people who stood on the bridge and screamed “do not let this pass” when the Patriot Act and other nonsense was foisted upon us after 9/11. Ya’ll chastised us then as well with “we need this to be safe”. Mr. Trump’s presidency wasn’t even a thought at that time.

    Well here we are again, screaming Freedom and Liberty are our founding principles. NO “emergency” should ever be allowed to violate our Rights.

    And once again we are ridiculed and told we are “endangering” the masses, or should I say herd of sheep.

    Mathius loves playing the card of “if you are not with us you are against us” and how the “R’s” supposedly played on fear and patriotism to silence “D” opposition. But the “D’s”” did not oppose the loss of Liberty. They simply opposed any idea that came from Bush II. In the end they happily voted YES and then whined about how they were brow beaten. If that were true then they were COWARDS.

    And based on Mr. Lemon’s rant yesterday they are STILL COWARDS.

    Rathdrum, Idaho family cited for violating the Gov’s isolation orders for hold a yard sale, was back holding her yard sale yesterday. Almost 100 people showed up to look at and buy stuff. Folks passing buy honking their horns “in support”. She now has a lawyer from Boise who volunteered to take her case pro bono. His comment to the local paper was that our Rights come from our creator, not some “Little Governor”. The Gov’s name is Brad Little, for those who don’t follow Rural American politics.

    “Freedom Parades” are popping up all over the State, including the Capital. And this in a State where the restrictions were not as bad as others around us.

    Side note: The Gov’s order included a “requirement that anyone traveling into Idaho self quarantine for at least 14 days, unless of course they were just passing thru”. The Sheriff’s Office spent the weekend putting flyers on “Out of State” cars located at our boat docks and recreation areas telling them to go home and not come back as they are in violation of our Governor’s Order.

    Now, while this is an actual step that could reduce rate of spread, it is irrational given the number of people crossing the State Line each day to work, and who are allowed under the “exemptions”. That aside, I can’t wait to see this new “Power” tested in the Courts.

    Oh, and the irony of this being supported by folks on the left given their desire for a National Govt., as Mathius calls for, is not lost to me.

  38. U.S.—America suffered its highest one-day increase in cases of Trump Derangement Syndrome yesterday, adding 317,259 new cases. This brought the number of U.S. cases to roughly 59 million, while worldwide cases of the deadly disease increased to 110 million.

    The peak in cases was brought on by President Trump’s growing urgency to reopen the economy and allow people to go back to work. Scholars have noted that this is equivalent to slavery.
    With the sharp increase in Trump Derangement Syndrome, U.S. officials see no real timeline for reopening the minds of Democrats nationwide. “We can’t take any chances here,” Dr. Anthony Fauci said. “It could take months. It could take years. What we may see is the gradual reopening of Democrat minds on a state-by-state basis.”
    While some statistics have suggested a plateau in cases of Trump Derangement Syndrome, other sources suggest the increase in cases has just begun.
    “Our models have been quite accurate from day one,” claimed Ron Whitley of the University of Washington. “And we don’t see a peak here. Our data suggests a slow increase in cases through the summer, and then a big peak in cases about November 4 or so.”

  39. Update from NW Pa.

    Grocery stores meat sections picked over pretty well. TP still missing from shelves. Traffic is super light, but lots of semi’s on I80.

    Our Crat governor said we will not begin to open until May 8 at the earliest. Many folks are getting a bit pissed, as we only have 7 cases in our county to date. For our area, this is overkill, we could be opened up, act like adults and be just fine. But, we have a Crat governor who is hesitant to give up his power. I would not be surprised if this lasts into the 3rd week of May.

    The weather is being stupid. Snow showers and high winds today after sunny and 57 yesterday.

    Had my annual doctors appt, from home, via video conference. This could be the new norm for many.

    With the weather being stupid, I’ve been enjoying my time listening to some old Rock and Roll, reading up on the NFL draft news and generally being bored. Netflix helps, Disney+ helps, but ready for a few days of warm weather without the wet stuff.

    The Doc said I will probably outlive Mathius. That was nice of her 😛

    • The Doc said I will probably outlive Mathius. That was nice of her 😛

      Fat chance.

      I don’t care what your physical says – it won’t help you survive a musket ball from a pirate from 800 meters.

      • thelonestarconnection says:

        Wow…some musket ball.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Colonel

          Good story. Once upon a time a good friend challenged me to a shoot off with Black Powder Rifles. One a cap n’ ball, the other a Flintlock. The target was set at a little over 50 yards.

          I was suffering a terrible hangover that morning. He much less so. First up was the Hawken 50 Cal model. Both of us hit the target so on to the Flintlock. Now, these were his guns, and he provided powder, patch and ball.

          He loaded the 45 Flint and handed it to me with only one instruction. “Remember you have to hold it steady cause it fires a while after the powder goes off.”

          Short of it………. I hit the bulls eye. He took his turn, hitting the target but missed the black.

          He immediately started cursing the Gods, the wind and those who made the powder, let alone those who made me. He said he “could not understand how the hell I hit the target let along the bull.”

          Then he admitted to trying to fix the contest. You see, he had cast the balls the day before. The first was normal. But the one he loaded into that Flintlock was not. He had a second one at the ready and showed it to me. It looked much like this picture, only round and not oblong.

          https://houseofcones.com/products/giant-sequoia-cone

          I laughed a good hard laugh, as best my headache would allow. I told him he had screwed up in his effort by making the deformities to uniform. All those defects were arranged such that they created compensating errors.

          Of course there is the possibility that when the thing went off, after all that fire next to my eyes, that I was aiming somewhere south/north/east and west of the target and “Blind Ass Luck” took over. His doctored ball somehow found its way to where I was thinking it should be and not where I was aiming.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      It seems the runner up in Georgia’s governors election is severely criticizing the Republican winner for wanting to restart many businesses and get their economy up an running again.

  40. https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2020/04/21/msnbc-trump-backers-making-china-new-scary-nonwhite-people

    Thought I would throw out one of the many, many ridiculous things coming from the Liberal media. They make this crap up, not realizing that Asians come from many countries, not just China. Not one of these idiots could tell the difference between a Chinese and a South Korean or a Japanese or a Mongolian. Idiots, Freaking Idiots, the whole lot of them (liberal media).

  41. Dale A Albrecht says:

    I understand that Mayor de Blasios snitch line turned out real well and was shut down over the weekend.

  42. Dale A Albrecht says:
  43. Just A Citizen says:

    I heard thru the grapevine this evening that Facebook actually interfered with organizing efforts for the Freedom Marches and Demonstrations this past weekend. Not a complete shutdown in all areas. But some States are reporting that Facebook deleted and blocked their efforts to reach out to others interested in joining the “recreational outings”.

    I have seen no confirmation but is very interesting indeed. Most of all if there are differences between certain areas of the country. This would indicated some kind of Regional organization and authorities to CENSOR users.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      It is going to be time to BUST TRUSTS in term 2.

    • I asked Spousal unit since she is big on facebook….and she has seen nothing about it.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        They were talking about it yesterday on the news. The little twerp that owns Facebook said it was his duty to shut down sites that promote falsehoods. Opening early because there is a danger apparently is a falsehood. Complaining about a drive thru worship service being shut down because it is “dangerous” is a “falsehood’ . In NJ, complaining about the police shutting down over the weekend a drive through tulip festival on the pretext I guess that there is vehicle to vehicle transmission is a “falsehood”. You see Mr. Facebook is the arbiter of all truth these days.

        • U.S.—During the ongoing pandemic, Facebook has decided to crack down on any posts that encourage activities violating edicts from local governments, such as mass protests or leaving one’s house. As part of this effort, the platform is now removing any posts that quote the First Amendment, as they say all it does is encourage illegal activity.

          “Remember the First Amendment,” read a post by Facebook user Samantha Tucker. “It says, ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.’”
          The post was immediately taken down by Facebook admins, who noted that “free exercise of religion” and “peaceably assembling” and “petitioning the government in times of crisis” are strict violations of local laws. The warning did note that “free speech is allowed,” but only if it stays within “Facebook’s strict guidelines.”
          The First Amendment isn’t the only amendment to be scrutinized by Facebook, as quoting the Second Amendment results in an immediate lifetime ban. Anyone can quote the Third, though, as no one really cares about that one.

  44. McConnell brought up state bankruptcy. If a state goes bankrupt it should revert to a territory.

  45. U.S.—The full effects of keeping the country shut down for such a long period of time are yet unknown, but a new report suggests that if the shutdown lasts much longer, disaster is looming.

    “Just look at the facts,” said social scientist Dr. Bradford Quinn, the author of the report. “People are home without work and unable to get haircuts. If people are lazy for that length of time and with hair that long, that only results in one thing: hippies.”
    Hippies were a blight on this nation that arose in the 1960s but were mainly wiped out by the industriousness and economic growth of the 1980s. But with the economy completely shut down, data now shows they could rise again, and many Americans are at risk of becoming hippies right now and don’t even know it.
    Quinn listed a number of indicators that you could be turning into a hippie:
    Laziness
    Confused thought
    Whiny speech patterns
    Long, unkempt hair
    Not being able to remember the last time you showered or changed your clothes
    Every time you speak, people punch you and shout, “Shut up, hippie!”
    There is a known cure for being a hippie, but obtaining the cure is a problem at the moment. “The cure is to cut your hair and get a job,” explained Quinn. “But with the country shut down, the cure is inaccessible. At some point, the country is going to have to ask itself: Would we rather die or become a bunch of hippies? I think the answer is pretty obvious.”

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Humans do in FACT produce CO2. And we produce CO2 that would otherwise NOT be produced. Such as the hydrocarbons locked up underground.

      This seems like a bit of a strawman argument. Saying we can find out if we produce CO2 when that has NEVER been in question. Except maybe for this author.

      The question is whether the amount and rate of increased production is actually affecting climate, weather, and the myriad of other things being blamed on carbon emissions.

      • This author is a moron.

        He clearly sits atop Mt. Stupid.

        That said, of course, JAC, you’re 100% correct with your final paragraph. The question isn’t whether we’re increasing the release of CO2, but (A) how significant our contributions are, (B) whether it’s impactful, (C) what long term consequences, if any, there might be and (D) what, if anything, should we be doing about it.

        I remember arguing with Black Flag about this years back, and even HE agreed that, of course, we’re contributing measurably. But, he argued, the Earth has powerful negative feedback mechanisms which make it impossible for our contributions to affect anything (hint: I think this position is bullshit).

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Mathius

          I don’t know if you remember the argument I made at the time. In summary, Black Flag is correct. But his claim IGNORED TIME in the equation.

          Earth’s environment undergoes significant swings. A new balance is always achieved. There have to be negative feed back loops or the thing would go in only one direction. BUT, how long does this take and what is the affect on HUMAN existence in the meantime.

          The Earth was covered by ICE. The negative feedback took over and the ICE MELTED. Very few humans could exist under those circumstances and it took hundreds of thousands of years for the cycle to complete.

          • There have to be negative feed back loops or the thing would go in only one direction.

            This is an arguement my boss would murder me if I tried on him.

            The problem is that you’ve started with the conclusion and then worked backward into the logic.

            “since it can’t go only in one direction, then it must have feedback loops.”

            But who says it can’t go only in one direction?

            Who says we can’t knock it off balance enough that the Earth turns into Venus and stays that way until the sun exploses?

            BUT, how long does this take and what is the affect on HUMAN existence in the meantime.

            Also very relevant… it only needs to go bad enough to kill us pesky humans. Then if an ultra-long feedback mechanism eventually restores the Earth to a more-or-less present day value, who cares? We’ll all be dead (and Gman will be dead before me).

            The Earth was covered by ICE. The negative feedback took over and the ICE MELTED.

            This has happened several times, in fact.

            In one of those times the human population was reduced to around 10k.

            In another of those times, the Earth stayed frozen for 300 million years before it unthawed.

            I think this is your point.. that the Earth would swing back eventually, but, functionally, a 300mm year ice age might as well be a one-way trip.

            But I don’t concede that there HAS to be a feedback mechanism that ever brings it back. Maybe, if things had been just slightly different, it wouldn’t have ever come back. Without a clear explanation of WHY such a mechanism MUST exist and must ALWAYS function, this isn’t a conclusion that can be drawn.

            At best, I think, we can say “it’s always been that way.. so far..” and shrug our shoulders.

  46. Just A Citizen says:

    More Trump affect.

    Today we have CNN running an “Analysis” piece criticizing the use of “Utilitarian” principles to argue for opening up the economy, when it is those principles which they and every other news outlet use to justify things like Govt. provided healthcare.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is MSM…….

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/us/reopening-country-coronavirus-utilitarianism/index.html

    One other note. The irony of the ARROGANT health care workers standing in front of demonstrators with nothing but a cloth mask on. Wasting scrubs by exposing them to the public. And for WHAT exactly???

    • Isn’t Mathius always making the argument for the greater good?

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Exactly. Furthermore, the author of this piece fails to recognize that the demonstrators are actually standing against the Utilitarian case, that the greater economy along with individual rights have been sacrificed for the greater good.

        I am growing sadder each day as I see that Mathius is correct in one thing. We Americans are a lot stupider than I thought. And this passing for some kind of intellectual argument is even worse.

      • Isn’t Mathius always making the argument for the greater good?

        Sure sounds like me…

        The irony of the ARROGANT health care workers standing in front of demonstrators with nothing but a cloth mask on.

        What is “arrogant” about counter-protesting from a position of vastly superior knowledge and understanding?

        What seems arrogant, to me, would be a lay person shouting at a nurse because they believe that they, without any relevant professional experience, without the relevant education, that they know better. That they are so confident in their great wisdom and mastery of the topic, that they choose to go out in public in defiance of those who DO know better.. I know I talk a lot about Dunning Kruger, here, but boy, does it ever seem to fit the bill with this stuff.

        Wasting scrubs by exposing them to the public. And for WHAT exactly???

        I thought about this, too.. but I do wonder if they might be used masks / scrubs. Not necessarily exposed to highly infected patients (whereafter it would be destroyed), but worn long enough that they would have to be changed anyway – kind of how they wear them out to lunch and walking home after shifts. I would imagine that, generally, these people are pretty cognizant of their supply and aren’t wasting the things that potentially separate themselves from getting sick.

        Today we have CNN running an “Analysis” piece criticizing the use of “Utilitarian” principles to argue for opening up the economy

        ::shrug::

        Seems to me that utilitarianism can have a place in this debate – but a human life is a valuable and irreplaceable thing, so when using it in such an equation, it should be weighted accordingly.

        “There are things more important than living,” Texas Lt. Gov Dan Patrick said on Tuesday.

        Says the Lt. Governor who thinks that old people should lay down their lives to save the economy..

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Mathius

          The “arrogance” issue. The demonstrators are not making medical arguments. They are making Liberty arguments. Further, I know many in the medical field, they are not experts and do not know much more than anyone who would take the time to research the Covid info. on the web. They know medical impacts, not POLICY issues and are not “infectious disease experts”. They take what they are told and then amplify it via their positions.

          I have a neighbor nurse who was crying for the arrest of a pastor for wanting to have services and two elected officials saying the Governor was violating our Rights. She is reacting to an order given, not scientific information about the virus. She ASSUMES her facility will be overrun. Yet with most of our businesses open our facilities have not been overrun. Yet she wants people JAILED for freely speaking their mind.

          The demonstrators are being “confronted” by the nurses. Who had to leave their place of work and put on a valuable short in supply mask to make themselves look impotent.

          So I am sorry, but I see more “arrogance” on their part. They are, by their action, trying to say WE KNOW BETTER and YOU ARE STUPID. Oh, which is what you were saying while claiming them not arrogant.

          P.S. If the gear is used then they are even more obnoxious as they are deliberately exposing the protesters who they come up to………… on a public street. Let alone violating their own protocols by wearing equip that should have been disposed of.

          The Lt. Gov of Texas is correct except he should not say “should lay down” but “are free to lay down” their lives. But that is not a given either. Each of us has the choice to take action we deem necessary to protect ourselves. If you are old and high risk, odds are you are not working outside the home. I say odds because I do know many who do and would have to make a choice. Wait, they are still working now……at Home Depot and Lowes and the Grocery Store.

          Utilitarianism is the standard of Govt action in the USA today and has been for a long time. It has a direct conflict with INDIVIDUAL freedom and liberty. Thus both statements are true, opening up the country is the best thing for the greater good, but each life lost has an incalculable value.

          Noteworthy point: Utilitarianism was key to the arguments made in defense of the ACA.

          • The demonstrators are not making medical arguments. They are making Liberty arguments.

            Some are. Some aren’t.

            Plenty of them think this thing is equivalent to the flu.

            Plenty of them think it’s a hoax.

            Plenty of them – god help us – think that this is due to the rollout of 5G cellular networks.

            Plenty of them ALSO think:

            Further, I know many in the medical field, they are not experts and do not know much more than anyone who would take the time to research the Covid info. on the web. They know medical impacts, not POLICY issues and are not “infectious disease experts”. They take what they are told and then amplify it via their positions.

            I know enough medical professionals to know that, all things being equal, they generally know more than people who DIDN’T go to medical school

            That said, yes, of course, there are ignorant nurses and technicians and doctors and they can be idiots, too.

            Yet she wants people JAILED for freely speaking their mind.

            It sounds like she wants the guy jailed not for “speaking his mind,” but for trying to get hundreds of people together in a close packed room for an extended period of time wherein a pandemic which has killed 45,000+ Americans – so far – could readily spread…

            The demonstrators are being “confronted” by the nurses.

            Does freedom of expression not apply to nurses?

            Or is it only “arrogant” and “confrontational” when “the other” side does it?

            Who had to leave their place of work and put on a valuable short in supply mask to make themselves look impotent.

            Orr…… or… or that’s just what they happened to be wearing?

            Also, they don’t need to make themselves look important (assuming that’s what you meant to say).. they are important.

            I’m not one to go in on the hero worshiping bullshit this country does. I’ve griped plenty of times about the way America fetishizes hero-worship of the military and I see it emerging on the left regarding medical workers.

            They aren’t saints. They aren’t “heroes.” Some are, to be sure, but most of them are just people doing their jobs and trying to survive and collect a paycheck. But they sure as hell ARE important.

            So I am sorry, but I see more “arrogance” on their part. They are, by their action, trying to say WE KNOW BETTER

            … because they, generally, DO know better.

            and YOU ARE STUPID.

            I don’t know if they’re implying this or if you’re just inferring it… just sayin’..

            That said, while the nurses may not be saying it, I’ll go ahead and say it. Most of those people? Yea, they’re stupid.

            And I don’t need to know a damned thing about them to say that. Most PEOPLE are stupid. Average is pretty stupid. Even “smart” is pretty stupid. And you can’t fix stupid. But you can try to be a bit less ignorant. Which is what the nurses are.. a bit less ignorant.

            Oh, which is what you were saying while claiming them not arrogant.

            It’s not “arrogant” to stand on the higher ground and acknoledge that you’re standing on the higher ground.

            Watch this: I, Mathius, am smarter than the average person.

            Now.. was that arrogant?

            No.

            You know why? Because I – AM – smarter than the average person. It’s just an acknowledgment of empirical reality. It’s not “arrogance,” it’s just a thing that is.

            Now, if I say “I, Mathius, am one of the greatest minds who ever lived,” then that would be arrogance.

            For me to stand up with my professional experience and training and say “I think that financial markets are completely irrational,” I can say that because, you know, I HAVE salient professional experience and training and I AM smart. And if you, a lay person in the financial markets want to butt heads with me, it’s not “arrogant” for me to stand on the higher peak and call you out. Really, it’s more arrogant for you, the outsider, to presume know more about my specialty than I do.

            P.S. If the gear is used then they are even more obnoxious as they are deliberately exposing the protesters who they come up to………… on a public street. Let alone violating their own protocols by wearing equip that should have been disposed of.

            This very much depends. There’s lot of protocol and protocol and protocol. I think it’s reasonable to assume that they aren’t wearing stuff straight out of Isolation and into public.

            Each of us has the choice to take action we deem necessary to protect ourselves.

            Of course.

            Of course, of course, you’re completely right in this.

            The one thing I haven’t seen – and maybe i’ve missed it – from you in all of this is any acknowledgement that one person’s “exercising their freedom” to risk self exposure constitutes a marginal increase in the threat to someone else.

            That is, what I’d like to hear from you, is an agreement that: if Gary is an idiot and goes around without a mask, then he is risking the safety of those he comes in contact with – even if they do take precautions.

            The way I would look at it is as if he’s “free to fire his gun into the air.” You know, it’s his own gun, his bullets, his land, and maybe they land on him and kill him and that’s his risk to take… and all of that is fine. But if the bullet goes astray and lands on a passerby, that’s Gary’s fault, too. So if the government says “you can’t do that,” then is that the government “oppressing” Gary, or is that the government “stopping” Gary from “unnecessarily risking the lives of others”?

            Utilitarianism is the standard of Govt action in the USA today and has been for a long time. It has a direct conflict with INDIVIDUAL freedom and liberty.

            Yes.

            I think you’d find that there are not that many people, when pressed, would side 100% with “individual freedom and liberty” over any utilitarianism.

            Thus, the old joke..

            A man walks into a bar, sees a beautiful woman.
            “Would you sleep with me for $1,000,000?” he asks her.
            The woman thinks for a moment, but readily agrees. I mean, a million is a lot of money.
            Hearing her agree, he says “would you sleep with me for $100?”
            The woman throws her drink in his face and shoults “aht kind of woman do you think I am!”
            “Well,” he slowly replies, “we’ve already determined what kind of woman you are… now we’re just haggling over price!”

            I do love that joke. But there’s some deep truth in it, too.

            Other than BF and the pirate and a handful of lunatics, there really are almost no True Believers in individual liberty and freedom over any utilitarianism.

            So… if we’re all somewhere on the line between here and there, we’ve already established that utilitarianism has it’s place in the role of government.. we’re just haggling over where to draw the line. I’m just a bit further to one side than you.. but we’re both somewhere in the middle.

            Thus both statements are true, opening up the country is the best thing for the greater good, but each life lost has an incalculable value.

            I don’t think you can prove that first statement to be true.

            I’m not saying it’s wrong. I’m saying I don’t think you can prove it.

            Opening up the country MIGHT be the best thing for the greater good. Or, maybe the doomsayers are right and reopening now would just lead to the second wave and millions of deaths.

            I might personally suspect that to be a bit hyperbolic, but to assert that a thing is or is not “for the greater good” is always a bit of an exercise in reading tea leaves.

            Noteworthy point: Utilitarianism was key to the arguments made in defense of the ACA.

            Very true.

            The Republicans felt it was more important to sabotage the left’s efforts to reform health care and that it was so important to undermine Obama that they were willing to let millions go without improvements to the American health system that could have been obtained had they worked in good faith with the Democrats. They obviously thought that defeating Obama was for the Greater Good. 😛

            • You know why? Because I – AM – smarter than the average person. It’s just an acknowledgment of empirical reality. It’s not “arrogance,” it’s just a thing that is.

              I see you learned well at the Trump University.

              • I appreciate the joke, but it’s pretty damned certain that I’m “smarter than average.

                It’s not arrogance to acknowledge that.

                It would be arrogance to let that lead me to believe that I’m always right or that I’m somehow superior to other people.

                If I, for instance, thought that, because I had a “really good brain” and was a “stable genius,” and that my uncle was a “great scientist at MIT,” that this meant that I “knew more about” practically everything or that “I’m the best at” everything… well then… that certainly would be arrogant.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Mathius

              Them are fightin words there laddie. I am not near the middle. I am just not as far right as BF or DPM or Kent.

              “So… if we’re all somewhere on the line between here and there, we’ve already established that utilitarianism has it’s place in the role of government.. we’re just haggling over where to draw the line. I’m just a bit further to one side than you.. but we’re both somewhere in the middle.”

              I would not say it has a “place” in the role of Govt. I think the presence of Govt. draws it in via those who subscribe to it. It may be the one factor which causes Govt. to continuously grow out of control, until if fails under its own weight. That and the simple desire for more power or importance in the world.

              • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

                Them are fightin words there laddie. I am not near the middle.

                Yer a lily-livered centrist.

                Yer a tax and spend, big government, statist.

                But maybe… maybe, there’s still hope for you, yet.

                (Mathius, however.. well, that one’s a lost cause.)

        • Says the Lt. Governor who thinks that old people should lay down their lives to save the economy.. Bullshit……..now go and read what he said verbatim and do not cherry pick one sentence. Put yourself ABOVE CNN………well, everything is above CNN…..but…..

          ” The argument is simple: The economy is likely headed into a recession. Unemployment claims are expected to soar. Small businesses are being crushed by “shelter in place” orders around the country. If things continue like this, the economy may totally collapse — no matter what Congress passes (or doesn’t pass) in terms of economic stimulus. And we can’t let that happen. So, we need to start getting back to “normal” — even if that means a few more people get sick with the coronavirus and, yes, some die. ”

          In other words, there is risk. So…………….just exactly what is wrong with this scenario? I will be 72….I am in this category. I am willing to take the risk

          • That’s not the relevant quote.. it was a week or two earlier where he said that there was an exchange to be made that he and his fellow seniors would have to decide whether to risk their lives to preserve the economy and prosperity and America as he knew it for the next generation.

            You can dig up the quote.

            Anyway, it’s a fair enough argument to say that HE believes it’s appropriate to lay his life down for that goal. In a way, I suppose that’s no different than serving in the military and laying your life down for something important economically to the United States. He can – absolutely – make the case that it’s more important that he die and the US secure the [blah blah blah]. That’s perfectly fine.

            And it is one hell of a utilitarian argument to make.. But it’s another thing for him to say “I believe this, so I’m advocating that we remove the restrictions in place which are actively protecting everyone else.” That is, “I believe this,” therefore “you should be at greater risk.”

            That is him saying “I believe it’s so important that the US secure the [blah blah blah] that I’m willing to conscript you and throw you into the line of fire. Some of you may die, but that’s a risk I’m willing to take.”

            And kudos to him for signing up to join the charge. But for the ones who didn’t agree, well… what? “Tough shit”?

            How much greater that risk is… how much damage.. how much the measures help… it’s all up in the air and subjective and open to debate.

            But what he said boils down to: “I’m willing to sacrifice myself and others for the economy. And if you don’t agree, then that’s just too bad for you.”

          • (2nd attempt)

            That’s not the relevant quote.. it was a week or two earlier where he said that there was an exchange to be made that he and his fellow seniors would have to decide whether to risk their lives to preserve the economy and prosperity and America as he knew it for the next generation.

            You can dig up the quote.

            Anyway, it’s a fair enough argument to say that HE believes it’s appropriate to lay his life down for that goal. In a way, I suppose that’s no different than serving in the military and laying your life down for something important economically to the United States. He can – absolutely – make the case that it’s more important that he die and the US secure the [blah blah blah]. That’s perfectly fine.

            And it is one hell of a utilitarian argument to make.. But it’s another thing for him to say “I believe this, so I’m advocating that we remove the restrictions in place which are actively protecting everyone else.” That is, “I believe this,” therefore “you should be at greater risk.”

            That is him saying “I believe it’s so important that the US secure the [blah blah blah] that I’m willing to conscript you and throw you into the line of fire. Some of you may die, but that’s a risk I’m willing to take.”

            And kudos to him for signing up to join the charge. But for the ones who didn’t agree, well… what? “Tough shit”?

            How much greater that risk is… how much damage.. how much the measures help… it’s all up in the air and subjective and open to debate.

            But what he said boils down to: “I’m willing to sacrifice myself and others for the economy. And if you don’t agree, then that’s just too bad for you.”

            • You just do not understand the Texas fighting spirit, do you. Ok…fair enough. We are going to open up Texas….people can make their choices. I prefer to call this freedom…Something we Texicans gave up when becoming a state.

  47. Just A Citizen says:

    I told ya’ll that Kavanaugh was not the conservative justice people claimed.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/494298-supreme-court-hands-environmentalists-a-win-in-water-pollution-case

    Here is the PROPER argument as to why this was a BAD decision. Unfortunately the majority did not side with Alito.

    “If the Court is going to devise its own legal rules, instead of interpreting those enacted by Congress, it might at least adopt rules that can be applied with a modicum of consistency,” Alito wrote. “Here, however, the Court makes up a rule that provides no clear guidance and invites arbitrary and inconsistent application.”

    • “If the Court is going to devise its own legal rules, instead of interpreting those enacted by Congress, it might at least adopt rules that can be applied with a modicum of consistency,” Alito wrote. “Here, however, the Court makes up a rule that provides no clear guidance and invites arbitrary and inconsistent application.”

      I don’t know enough about this case to weigh in on this case, specifically, but damnit JAC, do you HAVE to post things like this?

      Seriously?

      Just.. don’t post this.

      Do you have any idea how much it physically pains me, how much it pisses me off to have to agree with Samuel Alito?

      • Just A Citizen says:

        I do it on purpose. Don’t want you to get so comfortable and bored that you walk around in a daze playing with the dog and kids all day.

        Why don’t you pack up your troop and come do some farming with the JAC clan? Let the kids learn how to dig in some real BIG dirt………….er uh………..Compose piles.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Mathius

        On a more substantive note, once you put aside the desire for specific outcomes from Court rulings and focus on the importance of the law as written you find that Judges like Alito and Thomas are right far more often than any of the others. Especially those on the left side of the bench.

        Given your stated desire to follow the law and that Congress should do what it is paid to do instead of punting to the Exec or Judicial branch, you should wind up on the Alito—Thomas side more often. In other words, expect to be uncomfortable for the foreseeable future.

        • On a more substantive note, once you put aside the desire for specific outcomes from Court rulings and focus on the importance of the law as written you find that Judges like Alito and Thomas are right far more often than any of the others. Especially those on the left side of the bench.

          GENERALLY SPEAKING, I think that when it comes to everything except constraining the power and influence of big money and organized religion, that the conservative Supreme Court justices are the better ones.

          That is, things like gay marriage, abortion, prostitution, sodomy, pornography, euthanasia, polygamy, and the right for corporations to outright buy congressmen and make them dance like puppets.

          (I actually think the court is wrong on abortion.. I think safe/legal abortion is the superior position, but I think the court created it by fiat and that’s bullshit. Same with gay marriage. The “right ruling” for the “wrong reason” is still wrong, and, while Justice Mathius would write a SCATHING concurring opinion from the majority, he would nonetheless rule against Roe / Obergefell.)

          Given your stated desire to follow the law and that Congress should do what it is paid to do instead of punting to the Exec or Judicial branch, you should wind up on the Alito—Thomas side more often. In other words, expect to be uncomfortable for the foreseeable future.

          I think you’d really like JUSTICE Mathius. He’s not just an originalist, but a literalist.

          For example, the 8th Amendment says no “cruel and unusual punishment,” so you can do whatever you want as long as it’s not cruel… and usual! If the Founders hadn’t wanted us to torture thousands of prisoners to death (thus making it “usual” and therefore legal), they should have said cruel OR unusual. 🙂

          • I think you’d really like JUSTICE Mathius. He’s not just an originalist, but a literalist.

            He certainly is not a literalist……no sir. He is incapable of seeing things in black and white. There is always a shade of gray.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      It needs one of those YUCK faces plastered right below the words……. Come on, you can doooooo ittttt.

      • I’m going to vote for Biden.

        But, honestly, I reaallly can’t find it within myself to argue any good reason to vote for him that doesn’t mention either Trump or the Supreme Court.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Excuse me? You just said that Conservative Justices are more right in your opinion then you say because of the Supreme Court you will vote for Biden.

          Good lord man,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, stick to the same side of the fence for more than 5 minutes.

          Now, if you want to claim Biden because you hate Trump, I can’t convince you otherwise. Now can you use any kind of logic when the choice is this rotten apple or that rotten apple. So you like green apples better than red.

          For me, I would rather see things remain on the current track for another 4 years, than the one I expect we would find ourselves on with Biden. He is a windsock. Maybe worse. He will surround himself with Self Righteous crusaders for the Progressive cause. We really do not need that right now.

          • Excuse me? You just said that Conservative Justices are more right in your opinion then you say because of the Supreme Court you will vote for Biden.

            You’re excused.

            Generally speaking, I prefer a conservative majority.. 5-4, maybe.

            I do not want the Heritage Foundation to appoint two more judges.

            If the bench were 7-2, we’d start having problems the other way. I just want some balance.

            Good lord man,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, stick to the same side of the fence for more than 5 minutes.

            Make me.

            Now, if you want to claim Biden because you hate Trump

            Well, I mean, that’s a big part of it.

            Biden is… tolerable.

            Trump is not.

            If I thought Canine Weapon could win, I’d vote for him instead.

            Now can you use any kind of logic when the choice is this rotten apple or that rotten apple. So you like green apples better than red.

            If I have to eat a rotten apple.. all things being equal, I guess I’ll eat the red one.. ::shrug::

            He is a windsock

            Better a windsock than a windbag! 🙂

            He will surround himself with Self Righteous crusaders for the Progressive cause. We really do not need that right now.

            You’re probably right about that.

            But if I have to have a President who is surrounded by self-righteous progressive crusaders OR conservative swamp monsters… well that’s not too hard a call. I’d rather have Rahm than DeVos and Mnuchin.

            Also, not for nothing, it’s worth it to elect Biden if for no other reason than just and only an explicit repudiation of Donald J Trump and Trumpism in general.

            I’ll vote for Biden because he’s palatable. He’s.. fine, I guess..

            But I’d vote for an unpalatable candidate, too, if they had a better chance of winning, just to make Trump lose. He is that bad. I would vote – I shit you not – for Mitch McConnel / Nancy Pelosi ticket if I thought they could beat Trump.

            Actually, you know what.. I’d vote for that anyway for the sheer hilarity….

            I think it’s it’s absolutely vital to the spirit and ethos of America to reject the belligerently hostile divisiveness and proud willful ignorance of the Trump administration.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              And I think it is vital that Mr. Trump finish another 4 years in order to give us time to destroy the kind of willful ignorance and bigotry that led to that last paragraph.

            • for Mitch McConnel / Nancy Pelosi ticket

              Just when I thought things could not get worse…even the imagined visual of this is enough to………………………………………………………

            • I think it’s it’s absolutely vital to the spirit and ethos of America to reject the belligerently hostile divisiveness and proud willful ignorance of the Trump administration.

              I was a little disappointed in that he carried on the Obama Legacy as well.

  48. Canine Weapon says:

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Dogs never take responsibility for anything so who are you to cast shade on others?

  49. Just A Citizen says:

    I was asked the other day about how my desire to lift restrictions meshes with my principle of not initiating harm to others.

    As I explained, harming others includes the knowledge one is doing or intending to do harm. If I go out in public and do not know or suspect I am infected I am NOT DOING harm. I might cause harm if carrying a virus unknown to me.

    DOING harm would be me deliberately trying to infect others. Like those guys with HIV years ago who deliberately tried to spread the disease among the female population.

    With my Liberty comes a Responsibility to act prudently so as not to impose my will on others. So I take my precautions to protect myself from you, and some to protect others in case I am infected and don’t know it.

    NOTE: The real problem that I think underlies all the anxiety is the lack of knowledge or trust about Govt. EXPERT suggested protocols. They keep changing. Their effectiveness is coming into question. As are certain treatments. We followed the EXPERTS and it looks like they may have been wrong in some cases. So many of us are frozen out of fear, following order because They are Orders coming from on high. They must know what is best. Yet THEY only know what someone else told them.

    Those someone’s are the SAME experts who told us NOT TO WEAR MASKS, and then said WELL IT MIGHT HELP, then we get ORDERS to wear masks in public or face arrest.

    P.S. Several Sheriffs across the country are starting to push back against all the RULES and ORDERS. One in Washington State just demolished the Gov. yesterday, pointing out all the inconsistencies in his “shut down orders”. Sheriff said he is not enforcing them anymore.

    • As I explained, harming others includes the knowledge one is doing or intending to do harm. If I go out in public and do not know or suspect I am infected I am NOT DOING harm.

      So… ignorance of doing harm means you’re not doing harm?

      DOING harm would be me deliberately trying to infect others.

      I think you’d have to include in here somewhere the idea of willful ignorance, too, no?

      If you’re running a fever and coughing, but insist that you know your body and it’s just [yada yada yada]… and then you go out and infect people, you can’t hide behind “I didn’t know” nor “I didn’t deliberately infect anyone.”

      EXPERT suggested protocols. They keep changing.

      Because the body of knowledge keeps changing… I’d be more worried if things didn’t change.

      If we find out X works and Y doesn’t, we can and should adjust accordingly and our recommendations to the public should adjust accordingly, no?

      We followed the EXPERTS and it looks like they may have been wrong in some cases. So many of us are frozen out of fear, following order because They are Orders coming from on high. They must know what is best. Yet THEY only know what someone else told them.

      Of course they were wrong!

      There’s a reason this is called the NOVEL Coronoavirus.

      It’s NEW.

      And they’re just figuring it out.

      They can only advise the most probably advise, given the best understanding at the time.

      And we should – generally – follow that advice.

      The fact that it wasn’t perfect at the outset is understandable. Why would anyone expect them to be immediately perfect in every way?

      Those someone’s are the SAME experts who told us NOT TO WEAR MASKS, and then said WELL IT MIGHT HELP, then we get ORDERS to wear masks in public or face arrest.

      That also evolved with changes in availability of mask supplies… when there were bigger shortages, having a random civilian taking a mask meant that a high-risk nurse had to re-use hers. Now, with enough to go around, that can be different.

      But, that aside, the fact also remains that the body of knowledge has grown and what might once have been viewed as ineffective is now viewed as good policy. Why would you expect them to have known that at the outside?

      P.S. Several Sheriffs across the country are starting to push back against all the RULES and ORDERS. One in Washington State just demolished the Gov. yesterday, pointing out all the inconsistencies in his “shut down orders”. Sheriff said he is not enforcing them anymore.

      I remember reading the other day that the United States is not one big country, but 50 smaller ones wearing a trenchcoat and pretending to be one country.

      The same seems to apply for states / counties.

      This is all going to be a very interesting ride over the next few months. What I’d like to know from you is what you think your thoughts will be if some of these deep red states / counties which push back on these rules wind up getting the hardest hit (adjusting for population density).

      If, for example, Georgia gets wrecked in the next few weeks, 10k deaths, 20k deaths, overloaded hospitals, etc.. will you change your mind in any way?

      • Just A Citizen says:

        so… ignorance of doing harm means you’re not doing harm? CORRECT

        Not DOING. Ignorance can cause but doing implies intent. Thus the difference between murder and accidental death or negligent homicide.

        • so… ignorance of doing harm means you’re not doing harm? CORRECT

          Poppycock!

          Absolute poppycock!

          I was practicing my live-fire drills the other day. I set up a target on my fence. Put several through the bullseye. I mean, maybe, you know, some of those bullets kept going and shot up my neighbor.. but I don’t know that, so no harm!

          Not DOING. Ignorance can cause but doing implies intent.

          Then who “DID” the harm?

          Did not -I- fire the bullets into my neighbor’s house?

          Did they fire themselves?

          Thus the difference between murder and accidental death or negligent homicide.

          Sure. Fine.

          But all three are HARM.

          Whether you meant to or not, you still killed someone… that’s still harm.

          Am I less dead because you didn’t mean to do it?

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Mathius

            My answer is not subject to your interpretation. I defined what I meant by “doing”. As in deliberate action. Causing………. deliberate. I would think the use of “initiating” would have been sufficient.

            Deja vu’…………….. I recall you tried this line of argumentation with me before. Apparently you still don’t get it.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Mathius

        If an area sees a spike in cases I would hope they respond in an INCREMENTAL manner consistent with what we know is effective. I expect the number of cases to increase. I expect more hospitalizations. That does not mean we have to go back to STAY AT HOME and we will arrest you if you are on the street mentality.

        Remember……… we shut this down to GET READY. Not to stop it. If we are not ready then somebody should have to answer “why not”?. Get Ready meant making sure that our Hospitals have what they need to respond to a larger crisis. Kind of like New York had to deal with. Which apparently they were able to handle.

        Now tell me, why is it that the naysayers seem to be assuming that when people say open up they mean go back to the time when this didn’t exist? People will take precautions. They just need to know which one’s are correct.

        When you say Wrecked you have to recognize the differences even within a State. We have over 1700 cases in the State. Over 1,200 of them are in the area around the city of Boise, and in Sun Valley. My County has 52 cases, 3 hospitalized and 0 deaths, so far. We are not in complete shutdown either.

        • People will take precautions.

          Maybe.

          Maybe they won’t.

          There’s a thing about networking.. it only takes a handful of “super connections” to really tie everything together.

          One person who doesn’t practice those precautions and who comes into contact with enough people… well, that’s a supper connection, and he spreads it into 100 different smaller networks.

          People will take precautions.

          Maybe.

          Maybe they won’t.

          I saw footage of the recent protests. Some were wearing masks and keeping their distance.

          I respected them. They understood what was going on and, presumably, had made the calculation that it was more important to open up in spite of the risks.

          But I also saw plenty of people clustered without masks, getting in people’s faces, etc. And these people will spread the disease.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Mathius

            If I take precautions as currently provided then it matters not what you do or how many of your friends you infect. NONE of you are getting within 6 feet of me, maybe 20 feet.

            Yes, it will spread, as it is going to do anyway. It is not what but or if but “when”. To some extent we can CHOOSE the timing of our stress points. Assuming the number of threats is as great as you assume.

            Now you tell me WHY does this generation required ORDERS from the Govt. to do the things that will help them? WHY do we need Police patrolling the streets and arresting people? Why do we need to order certain businesses closed and others are OK to be open? The USA, the world, has experienced these kinds of things in modern times. We did not resort to MANDATORY STAY AT HOME ORDERS>.

            • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

              If I take precautions as currently provided then it matters not what you do or how many of your friends you infect. NONE of you are getting within 6 feet of me, maybe 20 feet.

              If my musket be defective and accidentally shoots ye, then it be my fault regardless of any other considerations.

              Now you tell me WHY does this generation required ORDERS from the Govt. to do the things that will help them?

              Because he’s a big government statist who wants to use the power of the fiat violence of the government to force cooperation.

              This is because he understands that, in this world, it would be implausible to believe that a sufficiently high percentage of the population would willingly comply with the steps needed to stop this plague.

              Where he fails is not the practical, but the moral. He is right that the government can force people into their homes and close churches and other spreading loci. And thus slow the disease and buy time for hospitals to prepare, etc. He is right about all of that.

              He’s just wrong in thinking that he is morally justified in doing so.

              WHY do we need Police patrolling the streets and arresting people?

              Because people are selfish ignorant assholes, and stupid to boot.

              Because if Mathius doesn’t force them to stop spreading disease, they will spread disease.

              Mathius’ approach is very practical, it’s just evil.

              Then again, so is North Korea’s approach of just shooting everyone who spikes a fever. It’s very effective.

              Why do we need to order certain businesses closed and others are OK to be open?

              For the same reasons.

              Some things need to operate to maintain a standard of living and keep things functioning. There’s a necessary baseline. Water must flow. Food must be harvested and transported. Etc.

              If this doesn’t happen, people will very quickly figure out that “civilization” is just a thin veneer that wears off after only a few missed meals. And Mathius isn’t prepared to accept seeing the face of that reality.

              For starters, he doesn’t own a firearm. Talk about poor planning.

              So, he feels justified in shutting down as much as he can.. but stopping short of hitting the self-destruct button on his precious Big Government utopia.

              The USA, the world, has experienced these kinds of things in modern times. We did not resort to MANDATORY STAY AT HOME ORDERS>.

              These “kinds of things”.. but never “this” thing.

              Every pandemic is different. This has killed something like 170,000 people worldwide. That’s pretty rough. That’s a lot of dead people. And that’s WITH fascist governments actively working to keep those numbers under control (again, evil, but effective).

              There are no perfect parallels here. This particular plage, while not overly deadly, hits the sweet spot in terms of communicability. He is right to take it seriously even if, again, he is wrong with regards to HOW he chooses to do so.

            • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

              (3rd attempt)

              If I take precautions as currently provided then it matters not what you do or how many of your friends you infect. NONE of you are getting within 6 feet of me, maybe 20 feet.

              If my musket be defective and accidentally shoots ye, then it be my fault regardless of any other considerations.

              Now you tell me WHY does this generation required ORDERS from the Govt. to do the things that will help them?

              Because he’s a big government statist who wants to use the power of the fiat violence of the government to force cooperation.

              This is because he understands that, in this world, it would be implausible to believe that a sufficiently high percentage of the population would willingly comply with the steps needed to stop this plague.

              Where he fails is not the practical, but the moral. He is right that the government can force people into their homes and close churches and other spreading loci. And thus slow the disease and buy time for hospitals to prepare, etc. He is right about all of that.

              He’s just wrong in thinking that he is morally justified in doing so.

              WHY do we need Police patrolling the streets and arresting people?

              Because people are selfish ignorant assholes, and stupid to boot.

              Because if Mathius doesn’t force them to stop spreading disease, they will spread disease.

              Mathius’ approach is very practical, it’s just evil.

              Then again, so is North Korea’s approach of just shooting everyone who spikes a fever. It’s very effective.

              Why do we need to order certain businesses closed and others are OK to be open?

              For the same reasons.

              Some things need to operate to maintain a standard of living and keep things functioning. There’s a necessary baseline. Water must flow. Food must be harvested and transported. Etc.

              If this doesn’t happen, people will very quickly figure out that “civilization” is just a thin veneer that wears off after only a few missed meals. And Mathius isn’t prepared to accept seeing the face of that reality.

              For starters, he doesn’t own a firearm. Talk about poor planning.

              So, he feels justified in shutting down as much as he can.. but stopping short of hitting the self-destruct button on his precious Big Government utopia.

              The USA, the world, has experienced these kinds of things in modern times. We did not resort to MANDATORY STAY AT HOME ORDERS>.

              These “kinds of things”.. but never “this” thing.

              Every pandemic is different. This has killed something like 170,000 people worldwide. That’s pretty rough. That’s a lot of dead people. And that’s WITH fascist governments actively working to keep those numbers under control (again, evil, but effective).

              There are no perfect parallels here. This particular plage, while not overly deadly, hits the sweet spot in terms of communicability. He is right to take it seriously even if, again, he is wrong with regards to HOW he chooses to do so.

            • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

              Response is in quarantine..

            • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

              (last attempt)

              If I take precautions as currently provided then it matters not what you do or how many of your friends you infect. NONE of you are getting within 6 feet of me, maybe 20 feet.

              If my musket be defective and accidentally shoots ye, then it be my fault regardless of any other considerations.

              Now you tell me WHY does this generation required ORDERS from the Govt. to do the things that will help them?

              Because he’s a big government statist who wants to use the power of the fiat violence of the government to force cooperation.

              This is because he understands that, in this world, it would be implausible to believe that a sufficiently high percentage of the population would willingly comply with the steps needed to stop this plague.

              Where he fails is not the practical, but the moral. He is right that the government can force people into their homes and close churches and other spreading loci. And thus slow the disease and buy time for hospitals to prepare, etc. He is right about all of that.

              He’s just wrong in thinking that he is morally justified in doing so.

              WHY do we need Police patrolling the streets and arresting people?

              Because people are selfish ignorant assholes, and stupid to boot.

              Because if Mathius doesn’t force them to stop spreading disease, they will spread disease.

              Mathius’ approach is very practical, it’s just evil.

              Then again, so is North Korea’s approach of just shooting everyone who spikes a fever. It’s very effective.

              Why do we need to order certain businesses closed and others are OK to be open?

              For the same reasons.

              Some things need to operate to maintain a standard of living and keep things functioning. There’s a necessary baseline. Water must flow. Food must be harvested and transported. Etc.

              If this doesn’t happen, people will very quickly figure out that “civilization” is just a thin veneer that wears off after only a few missed meals. And Mathius isn’t prepared to accept seeing the face of that reality.

              For starters, he doesn’t own a firearm. Talk about poor planning.

              So, he feels justified in shutting down as much as he can.. but stopping short of hitting the self-destruct button on his precious Big Government utopia.

              The USA, the world, has experienced these kinds of things in modern times. We did not resort to MANDATORY STAY AT HOME ORDERS>.

              These “kinds of things”.. but never “this” thing.

              Every pandemic is different. This has killed something like 170,000 people worldwide. That’s pretty rough. That’s a lot of dead people. And that’s WITH fascist governments actively working to keep those numbers under control (again, evil, but effective).

              There are no perfect parallels here. This particular plage, while not overly deadly, hits the sweet spot in terms of communicability. He is right to take it seriously even if, again, he is wrong with regards to HOW he chooses to do so.

              • Just A Citizen says:

                Wish you had arrived earlier. I could have yielded the floor and gotten something productive done today.

              • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

                Wish you had arrived earlier. I could have yielded the floor and gotten something productive done today.

                Never argue with an idiot.

                He’ll drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience.

      • If, for example, Georgia gets wrecked in the next few weeks, 10k deaths, 20k deaths, overloaded hospitals, etc.. will you change your mind in any way?

        You did not ask me……but I will weigh in anyway, in the Pirate fashion……No, I will not change my mind. If Georgia wrecks their economy, then so be it.

        • It’s not about the economy.

          It’s about LIVES.

          If 20k people die in Georgia, we can presume that some significant portion of those deaths could have been avoided.

          Those people are dead because of the CHOICES their government made, to risk their lives on behalf of the Georgian economy.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Bull Puckey. You need to think a lot harder about your statement. Apply some of that hard logic you like to toss around.

          • It IS about the economy. I will be willing to bet that a bad economy will cause more deaths than this overblown bug going around.

            It is also about risk.

          • By the way…you have no say so over other people’s lives. They are not your moral or ethical responsibility. You may have empathy or even sympathy…..but if someone wishes to swim in shark infested waters…..so be it……it will not harm you in Nebraska.

  50. Canine Weapon says:

  51. Just A Citizen says:

    Thought which popped in my head due to arguing with Mathius.

    SCOTUS ruled, in response to ACA, that the Federal Govt cannot MAKE citizens buy anything. Of course it also ruled that the same govt could fine, no tax, you for not buying it but can’t make you. And if said fine/tax becomes punitive it would be illegal.

    So……..how can the Govt. ORDER you to wear a Mask that you would have to purchase? Or to purchase the materials to make it? Applying the legal standard the CAN NOT.

    But they could tax us for not wearing one. But not find us…….. cause that would be punitive.

    Where is Buck the Wala when I need him?

  52. What we know:
    1. The original infection rate models were grossly over pessimistic.
    2. The death rate is not 3.4% but under 0.2% only about 2x to 4x the normal flu.
    3. We now that the supply chain for ventilators and PPE is now up to the task.
    4. We know that hydroxychloroquine, antibiotics and zinc when applied early helps. We also know there are other drugs that can help.
    5. We know that our hospitals are not overloaded but are losing money since all elective procedures are on hold.
    6. We know that high population densities are at risk but lower population areas have very few issues.
    7. We know that sunlight contains UV light which is a sterilant.
    8. We know that wind disperses and dilutes any aerosols containing the virus.
    9. We know that the human body makes Vitamin D when exposed to sunlight. Vitamin D is a strong antioxidant that helps prevent infections and reduces their virulence.
    10. Therefore, per 7-9, being outdoors is a plus as long as social distancing is followed and play ground equipment (hard surfaces) are avoided.
    11. We know that frequent hand washing is good.
    12. We know that frequent sterilizing of common areas is good.
    13. We know that face masks can help in confined areas.
    14. We know that wearing gloves is good.
    15. We know that older folks are more prone to have complicating illnesses that can lead to premature death.
    16. We know that a vaccine is months to years away.
    17. We know that a continued extended shutdown of the economy will result in many personal and corporate bankruptcies. This will lead to a general depression with all the angst, hunger, lost homes, and political unrest that comes with a severely bad economy.
    18. We know that many states are in financial trouble and as result of the loss of tax revenues, could go bankrupt.
    19. We know that the Federal government is financially unstable being $24T in acknowledged debt and much more in hidden debt. Tax revenues for the Federal government will also decline during the shutdown hence the only solutions are borrowing more or printing more money. In the former case, interest rates rise and the later, inflation rises thus taxing savings.
    20. We know that all those cooped up at home are going to go stir crazy and a small fraction of them could do unpredictable things.
    21. We know that our rights to freely assemble and worship have been abridged.
    22. Unless a vaccine is found, we know this virus will eventually move through the entire population. It is just a matter of time. The current shutdown just slows the rate.
    23. We do not know if herd immunity is long lived.
    24. We do not know if this infection is seasonal like the flu.
    25. We do know that asymptomatic people can spread the virus.

    If we open the economy now, there will be a second wave. Its magnitude is uncertain because we are much better educated and equipped to handle the new cases.
    If we don’t open the economy until fall, we will still have a second wave but the harm to the economy may be permanent or at least long lasting. We may not have the funds to help those that are sick. We are already seeing sever shortages in the supermarket. If this continues, you will see riots.

    I cannot predict the future but this virus is not that deadly. It is not Ebola. We have flattened the curve which was the purpose of the shutdown. It was not to save every life. The goal of the shutdown has been met. It is time to start freeing up the economy. Rural states and areas should open first. High density cities go last.

  53. U.S.—The majority of the nation is “totally in favor” of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez boycotting her job permanently.

    After the congresswoman called for a job boycott once the economy opens back up, everyone said they were totally OK with it, as long as it’s just her and maybe some of her associates who are boycotting their jobs forever. Approval of her job boycott was directly connected to her being the one who is doing the boycotting.
    “Please, never go back to work, AOC, for the good of the nation,” said laid-off oil worker Pete Vik. “Heck, we’re even fine if you keep collecting your paycheck — we taxpayers would totally pony up a couple hundred grand a year to pay you to stay home.”
    “AOC not working? We’d love to see it,” he added.
    Ocasio-Cortez later clarified that it was poor people who don’t make $174,000 a year plus perks and benefits who she wants to stay home and not make any money.

  54. Just A Citizen says:

    Notice the difference between cumulative cases and weekly cases. Now realize that everyone is using the Cumulative Curves to declare the disaster ongoing. If you use the weekly infection rates you would get a very different awnswer.

    The BIGGLY missing data is recoveries. The criteria is so hard and/or followup so scarce the number of recovered lags far, far, far, far, behind the cases. Much farther than the 30 days claimed for all symptoms to disappear.

  55. I think the Flint water flowed into Lansing. These Michigan Ds these days …it’s ridiculous now. First it was the AG with her white folks and golfing comment. We know how Whitmer has us locked down to the max. Now it’s the D party acting up. They plan to censure Rep Whitsett for appearing at the White House with Trump, thanking him for pushing HCQ, which she believes saved her life while she had CV.

    “At the end of the day, we have political systems,” said Jonathan Kinloch, chairman of the organization. “We have political parties, and political parties exist for a reason.

    “They do not belong to themselves,” Kinloch said of endorsed candidates and elected officials. “They belong to the members and precinct delegates of the Democratic Party.”
    https://amp.detroitnews.com/amp/3010947001?__twitter_impression=true

    Trump landslide 2020

  56. Attorney General Bill Barr Explains Whether Constitutional Rights Go Away During an Emergency
    Townhall Tipsheet Katie Pavlich
    Attorney General Bill Barr Explains Whether Constitutional Rights Go Away During an Emergency
    Katie PavlichKatie Pavlich| @KatiePavlich|Posted: Apr 21, 2020 11:30 AM

    Attorney General Bill Barr Explains Whether Constitutional Rights Go Away During an Emergency
    Source: Official White House Photo by D. Myles Cullen

    During an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt Tuesday morning, Attorney General Bill Barr addressed the issue of government overreach during the Wuhan coronavirus crisis.

    “I do think that executive glance, whether it be in the federal system or the state system, you know, one of its capacities is to respond to immediate catastrophic dangers facing the people. And the reason that we give power to the executive is because frequently, that requires adapting to the circumstances. So initially, when you’re faced with a potential catastrophe, the government can deploy measures and even put temporary and reasonable restrictions on rights if really necessary to meet the danger,” Barr said.

    “But it still has the obligation to adapt to the circumstances. Whatever powers the government has, whether it be the president or the state governor, still is bounded by Constitutional rights of the individual. Our federal Constitutional rights don’t go away in an emergency. They constrain what the government can do. And in a circumstance like this, they put on the government the burden to make sure that whatever burdens it’s putting on our Constitutional liberties are strictly necessary to deal with the problem,” he continued. “They have to be targeted. They have to use less intrusive means if they are equally effective in dealing with the problem. And that’s the situation we’re in today. We’re moving into a period where we have to do a better job of targeting the measures we’re deploying to deal with this virus.”

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/04/21/barr-our-rights-dont-go-away-in-an-emergency-n2567304

    Opinions – I see the loop holes in this, but I generally agree.

    • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

      Our federal Constitutional rights don’t go away in an emergency. They constrain what the government can do.

      …. says AG Barr as he continues scribbling out the “right of the people peaceably to assemble” clause of the First Amendment …

  57. The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

    A question for JAC and the Colonel:

    A) Suppose you own a malfunctioning* firearm and you accidentally shoot someone. Who is to blame?

    B) Suppose you own a POTENTIALLY malfunctioning firearm. You do not know, cannot reasonably know, but there is a fair chance. Is it wrong to bring this out in public knowing that it might shoot someone? Are you evil to willingly risk others this way?

    C) Do the answers to the above change whether you shoot me in the leg or the head?

    D) Do the answers to the above change whether or not I am wearing body armor?

    E) Do the answers to the above change whether you’re firing bullets or musket balls or microbes?

    —-

    * Demonic possession… has the tendency to fire by itself

    • A) Suppose you own a malfunctioning* firearm and you accidentally shoot someone. Who is to blame? Funny you should choose a firearm….but I will play along. FIRST OF ALL, a Colonel would not own nor possess a malfunctioning firearm. But, again, I will play along. If you knew a firearm was malfunctioning and you were operating it in the vicinity of anyone…..(1) you are stupid (2) your are responsible and(3) you are stupid.

      B) Suppose you own a POTENTIALLY malfunctioning firearm. You do not know, cannot reasonably know, but there is a fair chance. Is it wrong to bring this out in public knowing that it might shoot someone? Are you evil to willingly risk others this way?

      You mean like the M16 assault rifle first issued to the troops in Vietnam. It was a jamming, malfunctioning piece of shit and it got people killed and the government knew it but they were not held responsible for the deaths. Even with the improvements, It was still a piece of shit and it still is a piece of shit but that is the way of the lowest bidder. That said….since you are asking in the civilian world….Even if it has the potential of malfunctioning, a normal person would not buy such a thing. But, if you bought something with the potential of doing harm and you knew it had the potential of doing harm….see A above.

      As to C, D, and E…….no relevance.

      • I thought more on your question about Potentially…….I answered your question assuming that you knew there was a malfunctioning potential. But, like buying a new car, you assume that it is in working order. You gave it a test drive…it worked just fine….then you took in on the road, had a malfunction in the steering and BAM…you hit a school bus head on. In this instance, you did not know of anything prior….you are not responsible…however, if you knew or read that the car you were buying had some potential of malfunction……see answer A.

        • That sounds a lot like “my car is working fine, but I am aware that this model has a tendency to crash into oncoming traffic without warning.” Which you interpret at totally your own fault (and stupid!).

          So would that be tantamount to “I’m feeling fine.. but I am aware that there is a pandemic going around and that I could be infected and contagious without even knowing it and that I might wind up killing someone with even knowing it”?

          • That sounds a lot like “my car is working fine, but I am aware that this model has a tendency to crash into oncoming traffic without warning.” Which you interpret at totally your own fault (and stupid!). Yes….you have free will in this case. You “knew” it had a potential problem..you bought it..it had the problem…you cannot claim “I did not know”. You took a risk…and lost.

            So would that be tantamount to “I’m feeling fine.. but I am aware that there is a pandemic going around and that I could be infected and contagious without even knowing it and that I might wind up killing someone with even knowing it”? Nope…apples and oranges, in my book.

            Try another analogy.

            • My friend Mathius…I believe that I know where you are headed with this….but I think that this virus has warped thinking. But, I do not think that you can make “lives” over “economics” as a viable argument. There is inherent risk in every single thing you do. You risk investments. Sometimes you are correct and sometimes you are wrong. I do the same. My litmus test will be different from yours in that I am looking for answers in a different vein than you.

              Same with this pandemic. There are no facts that are readily available because there are no facts pertaining to this particular issue. ( other than I still believe it is weaponized..but I cannot prove it ). We are developing facts daily. We have let this virus dictate behavior and I think this is wrong. But that is me. It is a new virus….it is nasty. But it will become one of the past…and a newer more deadly one is coming. You know it and I know it. It is inevitable. We are trying lots of thins to check the spread of the virus…it works is some areas and in other areas it has no effect.

              Quick comparison here.

              Texas: Total Covid 19 deaths stand at 136 statewide as of April 22. Population of Texas State 29 million.(2019).

              New York: Total Covid 19 deaths 15,740 statewide as of April 22. Population of New York State19.45 million.(2019)

              Pretty dramatic stats……There is no one answer. New York will have to respond differently than Texas. Yes? New York may employ draconian steps…..Texas does not have to….and, in Texas, this includes the border areas. One would have to ask the questions as to why….

              Now, in New York..especially the city…..if one walks around unprotected or even just walks around, their potential is much greater than walking around in….say the Fort Worth/Dallas Area. Total deaths in Fort Worth/Dallas combined…..109. Population in the metroplex area has a total population of 7,690,420. New York City population is 8.55 million…why the big difference in deaths? Obviously one answer is proximity. We simply do not live on top of each other here. So, where is the risk most inherent?

              Texas has decided that the risk is worth the gamble. Life is a matter of statistics and risks. It is simple, actually.

              • Texas has decided that the risk is worth the gamble.

                Here’s the KEY takeaway.

                “Texas” has decided that the risk is worth the gamble.

                That’s all well and good for Texas.

                Except (A) not everyone in Texas agrees and (B) diseases contracted in Texas won’t necessarily stay in Texas.

                —-

                I keep saying this, and I feel like I’m not being heard… if YOU want to do something that risks YOUR safety, that’s A-OK with me. I don’t care how stupid or risky or pointless it may be. Want to juggle chainsaws? Go for it! See if you can drink an entire 5th of whiskey before wrestling a bull? Go for it! (please have your heirs send me the video).

                But when you make decisions that endanger OTHER people, then they should get a say in the matter.

                At the hightest level, do you agree with this concept?

              • oops…correction…total Texas statewide deaths are 517….

            • you cannot claim “I did not know”. You took a risk…and lost.

              Well… you lost.. and that’s YOUR problem. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

              I’m toootttaaaallly fine with that.

              But, you see, my grandma was in a car going the opposite way when your car swerved out of control and rammed her off the road, causing her to tumble off a cliff, falling 500 yards, before landing on a poorly situated fireworks factory. We had to buy her pinky toe as that’s all we could find. At least, we think it was hers, anyway.

              Nope…apples and oranges, in my book.

              What’s the difference?

              Try another analogy.

      • Would the government be justified in banning you from traveling in public carrying one of those malfunctioning firearms?

    • Just A Citizen says:

      STUPID PIRATE

      The FLU kills anywhere from 20,000 to 60,000 annually.

      How do they get the flu? Those who have it continue going on about their lives. We all know that the flu is passing around with other people. NOBODY tries to claim that these people who carry the bug are GUILTY OF MURDER.

      Your supposed logic is nothing close to that. The rantings of some college Sophomore at 1 in the morning after a night of smoking pot and drinking Boones Farm.

  58. https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/04/23/fact-check-no-trump-didnt-propose-injecting-people-with-disinfectant/

    What is your take away from this?

    This shows me that Trump is an out of the box thinker. He asked a question, unfortunately in front the cameras, about using a novel approach to killing the bug. That of course got twisted by the media into something ridiculous. Trump did not choose his words carefully enough but that often happens when one is thinking on their feet.

    • This shows me that Trump is an out of the box thinker.

      There’s a line between “out of the box thinker” and “idiot who spouts nonsense and thinks he’s a genius.”

      He reminds me of a know-it-all teenager who instantly believes they have all the answers in every situation. “Oh, yes, child who has never had a job, tell me more about how I should be running my billion-dollar business.”

      I remember talking to the speaker for the California Assembly when I was… 12? 13? And he asked me what I would do if I were him and I told him to triple the education budget and invest in computer literacy training. I’m sure he got a kick out of my know-it-all-ness.

      He asked a question, unfortunately in front the cameras, about using a novel approach to killing the bug.

      Yes.

      That was pretty stupid.

      I honestly don’t know how to make this clearer: his words have consequences.

      He should be cautious and thoughtful when he speaks in public.

      That of course got twisted by the media into something ridiculous.

      They’re making fun of him.

      You know – because he’s a clown.

      Trump did not choose his words carefully enough but that often happens when one is thinking on their feet.

      That’s true, and that’s fair.

      I seem to remember conservatives bleating about “clinging to bibles and guns” for years after grabbing a snippet of an Obama quote and taking umbrage. (a full quote which was actually very measured and thoughtful and compassionate, by the way)

      But I do not seem to recall any human being who ever was worse about choosing his words thoughtlessly while on camera.

      Let’s be fair though, let’s take the whole quote:

      “I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

      (giving this the most charitable interpretation possible) This is NOT without some grounding in reality. I mean, after all, what is Chemo but carefully controlled doses of poison which ideally kill the things you want dead faster than it kills the host.

      To be faaairrr.. one could argue that, maybe, under certain very specific and very careful conditions, an infection in the lungs might be able to be killed with such a “disinfectant” as a last-ditch effort in which the damage and risk to the lungs is justified by the greater damage to the infection.

      And I think it’s uncharitable to imagine that he meant the words strictly literally and as mockingly interpreted by his detractors – that he’s suggesting mainlining cleaning products as a magical cure. He’s – in my estimation – clearly suggesting that the researchers look into whether things for external use can be adapted to internal use.

      Here’s the thing, though. Trump, unlike Doctor John Trump, MIT, professor, very smart, very smart, unbelievably smart, professor at MIT, very good genes.. unlike him, Donald J Trump is NOT a doctor. And his oh-so-brilliant outside the box thinking is just prattling off nonsense, giving people false hope, distracting from real hard science and medical guidelines by actual experts.

      Do you know who should be directing the flow of research? I’ll give you a hint: not Trump. The flow and funding of research should be directed by researchers / scientists / doctors. Not ignorant politicians with a middle schoolers’ grasp of epidemiology.

      You think there aren’t medical professionals actively looking into every possibility they can conceive of? Prioritizing the likeliest avenues? It’s not Trump’s job to come up with new medical interventions. He is so blitheringly ignorant (and stupid) that there is literally nothing he can possibly contribute to this conversation. His JOB is to manage the situation, communicate actual facts to the public, and juggle the needs of the country and the medical advice of the medical experts. His job is NOT to pretend to be the guy coming up with the medical advances.

      He has a maddening need to be seen as the guy with all the answers. And he’s not. More to the point, he is desperate for the easy fix, the easy out, the comforting lie. He is desperately reaching for straws because he needs the panacea. The idea of a long, hard, drawn-out timeline full of sacrifice and, yes, economic damage, terrifies him.

      “Suppose that we hit the body with tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that it hasn’t been checked and you’re going to test it. Suppose you can bring the light inside the body.”

      I can just imagine the conversation that preceded this…

      “Mr. President, we use UV-C light, which is highly dangerous and carcinogenic to break down DNA on exposed surfaces. In certain situations, it can be an effective sterilization solution.”

      “(moron voice) what if we swallowed it?”

      “Wh- what?”

      “(moron voice) what if we put the lightbulb inside our bodies? Wouldn’t it kill the virus?”

      “I can’t even begin to tell you the number of reasons that won’t work.”

      “(moron voice) I think you should look into it! You know, I have really great genes!”

      “Yes, Mr. President. We’ll look into it.”

      “(moron voice) how come you didn’t write anything down?”

      “Don’t worry, Mr. President, we’ll definitely remember this conversation.”

      • I have worked with out of the box thinkers. Most of the ideas and questions they have are useless and just random thoughts. However, a small percentage has some merit and can lead to breakthroughs. Often they do not have the ability to concentrate on a problem to bring a solution to fruition. However, these people are valuable and well worth keeping on the payroll. You never discourage them by calling them or their ideas moronic. To do so would be moronic.

        • I have worked with out of the box thinkers. Most of the ideas and questions they have are useless and just random thoughts. However, a small percentage has some merit and can lead to breakthroughs.

          That’s true.

          Suggesting taking disinfectants via injection and somehow internalizing light is the former.

          I’d also suggest that there’s a time and a place for such kinds of questions and speculations and mouth-noises. He shouldn’t be doing that kind of thing in a press conference where he is supposed to be communicating actual facts and science.

          As before, I think he’s just trying to LOOK like he has brilliant ideas and is desperately clinging to straws hoping for the easy way out.

          Often they do not have the ability to concentrate on a problem to bring a solution to fruition.

          While that’s certainly true about Trump, I’d suggest that no President actually has the wherewithal (to say nothing of the time) to drive something like that to fruition.

          But, oh boy, he sure does seem to have a lack of “ability to concentrate”…

          However, these people are valuable and well worth keeping on the payroll.

          I am desperately trying to fire Trump.

          However, these people are valuable and well worth keeping on the payroll.

          Yes and no.. I certainly appreciate having creative out-of-the-box people.

          But the guy who just spouts random bullshit left and right, is a constant distraction and disruption, and who has an extraordinarily annoying attitude where he constantly acts like he has all the great ideas… no. he is not worth keeping on the payroll.

          You never discourage them by calling them or their ideas moronic. To do so would be moronic.

          He is a moron.

          His ideas are useless.

          He’s dumb.

          And he should feel dumb.

          And people should call him dumb to big, stupid, dumb, face.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Not for nothing but Trump’s “problem” and I don’t think it is a problem is THINKING OUT LOUD. A thought crosses his mind, he expresses it and expects a comment. For the past 20 years my sister-in-;law has pushed something called “aromatics”. Combinations of plant oils of some kind that will cleanse, purify and make you feel good. Personally I think it probably bullshit but we know that spraying disinfectant can kill germs in the air……Trump wants to know if aerosolizing some things that can be inhaled might be beneficial. Alcohol kills this bug in less than a minute, on contact actually. Now we ALSO know that people inhale all sorts of substances from model airplane glue to magic mushrooms to gasoline to get high. so, what’s so off about at least asking the question?

      • Canine Weapon says:

        SKT,

        I want you to listen very closely to what I’m about to say:

        I am a dog. And I am smarter than your elected President.

        That should worry you.

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          No, you are not. Been around a whole lot of smart people in my 73 years. many made it big, some inherited it, some failed miserably despite having every possible advantage. This guy, is smarter or perhaps craftier than almost anyone else I have ever run into. I warned a while back, I’d not play poker with the gent. Almost nobody who crashed as hard as he did in ’89-’90 made it back.

          I would remind you of that particular era, a time when I jumped from comfortable Civil Service with benefits and no cash to Cash and no benefits within months of the Freddie-Fannie meltdown. The F—–g banks brought it all on by writing an incredible amount of bad paper with Federal mortgage guarantees. When the defaults started the G—–n banks shut the door to successful developers like my company AND Donald Trump. WE, and I include myself since I would have been a partner within a year at my firm, were stuck with projects in all stages of completion where money dried up, was pulled back or were unable to secure permanent mortgages and continued paying 22 1/5 percent construction interest till we went bust.

          It is alleged that it was Donald J. Trump himself who came up with the comment to one of his lenders…..”If I owe you $ 5,000 then I am in trouble, If I owe you $ 5,000,000 then YOU are the one in trouble”. Frankly, I doubt that you doggie or me could have pulled off what he did. Balls to the wall…..full bore!

      • Now we ALSO know that people inhale all sorts of substances from model airplane glue to magic mushrooms to gasoline to get high. so, what’s so off about at least asking the question?

        Putting aside the uninteligible way he asked the question, that was not the time and place for throwing around wild theories.

        I’m certain that Trump has plenty of meetings with professionals who can explain these things to him and prep him. There’s no reason to muddy the waters of a presser with such things. This is a public communication to help the public manage and function during a pandemic. This is not Trump’s Happy Hour of Random Outbursts.

        Here is what’s happening.
        Here is what we know.
        Here is what we’re doing.
        WhAt If PeOpLe GaRgLeD BlEeCh AnD iNjEcTeD lYsol AnD sWoLlEd LiGhTbUlBs?! O_o
        Here is what we advise you do.
        Here is what we think is going to happen.
        Thank you, please stay safe.

  59. On the current situation. Dan Bongino used a term yesterday that clearly applies to our current situation. The keep it shutdown crowd are thinking univariantly. They are only looking at the death toll from the virus and want to minimize it. However, the problem is much more complex and is multivariate problem that involves healthcare, the economy, hunger, bankruptcy, etc.

    We could reduce deaths by automobiles by eliminating them. So we would need to go back to walking, bicycles, horses, trains, etc. for transportation. Most people would now need to live within 5 miles of a train station or work. Since this would be a severe limit on our freedom to work and play in a much larger area, we choose to live with 35K auto accident deaths a year. That is our choice. However, you are free not to own or operate a car if you choose.

    • It is the same argument that I have tried before about cars and guns. Guns kill people. Cars kill people. Cars kill more people than guns do. But cars are necessary and guns are not.

      Stupid argument but this is what you get when trying to compare figures. As a matter of record, research the number of suicides with cars as compared to guns. Very interesting.

      But you will still hear crickets when you want to compare guns to cars.

  60. I was watching an interesting expose’ on the business channel yesterday about why some states are successful in getting business’ to relocate and Texas was brought up.

    It was noted, and I mentioned this on here years ago, that Texas has created a work environment for corporations and sole proprietorships.

    The main thing that created a cheaper work environment was the re-writing and passing of the Workmen’s Compensation Laws.
    1) There is no lump sum award available. ( lawyers vacated Texas in droves and to find a workmen’s compensation lawyer is tough ).
    2) Attorney’s fee’s are payable on the same scale as any reward fee’s and deducted from the amount on a monthly or quarterly basis. (lawyers vacated Texas in droves because no lawyer wants to wait upon his fees on the same monthly basis as the awards are paid).
    3) Burden of proof is not on the backs of the employer’s to defend…. the burden of proof is on the plaintiff. OMG….no longer can a nuisance suit for a “hurt” back be filed. You better have a documented claim that your back is actually injured and not just say…it hurts.
    4) Loser pays all the fees. (This dramatically reduced the nuisance suits and accident chasers do not take on workers comp cases anymore.
    5) You cannot file a civil suit in lieu of a workmens comp claim OMG, lawyers dropped cases by the bucket loads…..
    6) specific injuries have a specific award amount OMG, this eliminated the sympathetic jury awards. ( like in the old pirate days. If a pirate lost an arm or hand, it was worth extra “pieces o’ eight”….but not for each engagement.
    7) Jurisdiction of the injury resides in Texas. If your employee was injured in another state, you could not use that state’s laws. It falls under the jurisdiction of Texas. Lawyers hated this as well.

    The result…….the workmen’s compensation insurance premiums dropped over 90%. If Workmens Comp claims were a significant portion of overhead and you could reduce that overhead by 90%…it is worth the move and rebuilding of plants and offices and corporate HQ being in Texas is where the suits are filed.

    • #4 would be good for all law suits.

    • It’s funny.. you see “pro business” but I see “hard on the little guy.”

      That said…

      #3: A-MEN!

      #4: I really liked this at first blush, but now I wonder… if I think I’m right.. maybe I have a good, but not rock-solid case.. and I go to court and seek justice in good faith… and then I lose (because, you know, sometimes that happens).. then I get hit with a load of fees. Maybe I don’t bring my suit in the first place because I’m afraid that, if I lose, it’ll bankrupt me? Doesn’t this have a chilling effect? It makes it very dangerous for “the little guy” to sue even when he’s right. I’d be a lot more on-board with this if it were at the discretion of the court so the judge could say “no, screw you and the horse you rode in on” or “no, that was a fair use of the courts for adjudication. You lose, but that’s all.”

      #7: That’s bullshit. Just because my company is incorporated in Texas (it’s not, we’re registered in Delaware, of course!) doesn’t mean that I should have to forego the protections of living and working in NY. This sounds like a sneaky way for the corporations to pick and choose the friendliest jurisdictions even if they don’t have any real ties to that jurisdiction. That sure feels to me like a “screw you” to the employee who has no power of this kind of thing.

      • Maybe I don’t bring my suit in the first place because I’m afraid that, if I lose, it’ll bankrupt me? Yes, this is an unfortunate draw back and could happen…..but it sure did away with frivolous law suits where there was no risk to the plaintiff. It was a risk assessment.

        I’d be a lot more on-board with this if it were at the discretion of the court so the judge could say The judge does have a say in the awarding of court costs but a judge cannot say, well, the company can afford it and the losing person cannot so the company will pay it all. I will say, however, that apparently it has not been a problem because it does not come up for change in the legislature.

        Just because my company is incorporated in Texas (it’s not, we’re registered in Delaware, of course!) doesn’t mean that I should have to forego the protections of living and working in NY. Allow me to clarify…if a company, incorporated in Texas, establishes a permanent facility in another state and pays into that state system, the employee is entitled to protections in that state. However, if Mathius worked out of the Corporate office in Texas and flew to a meeting in New York and stumbled down the stairs in New York while on the job…you cannot file in New York. ( Remember we are talking about Workmens Comp).

        Allow me to be more specific why this law came about in Texas. It actually pertained to the trucking and petroleum industries. If a truck driver, based in Texas, was driving through Kansas and had an accident, that employee could file in Kansas or Texas. They cannot do that anymore. It the oil worker, living in Houston, went to drill a well in Oklahoma and fell off the rig, his injury is filed in Texas and not Oklahoma.

        • but it sure did away with frivolous law suits where there was no risk to the plaintiff. It was a risk assessment.

          Yes……

          There’s a scale.. allow too many frivolous lawsuits vs discourage legitimate suits..

          Just like, say, voter ID: prevent fraud vs disenfranchise legitimate voters..

          Just like a host of another topic, it’s a balancing act.

          What I’m getting from this is that Texas looked at this balance and weighted it heavily to one side. They said, “yes, we know this will hurt the little guy, but we choose to help the companies by preventing frivolous lawsuits as we consider that the more important end of the scale.”

          That’s a value judgment. Plain and simple.

          Texas has said, “it’s more important to prevent frivolous lawsuits than it is to ensure that legitimate suits aren’t discouraged by penalties if they lose.”

          I simply disagree.

          However, if Mathius worked out of the Corporate office in Texas and flew to a meeting in New York and stumbled down the stairs in New York while on the job…you cannot file in New York. ( Remember we are talking about Workmens Comp).

          Ah.

          Well, that’s better.

          But, err.. why not? Wasn’t I IN New York when I fell? Didn’t I fall on New York pavement which was wet due to New York rain and slippery because the New York workers didn’t dry it off and the New York employees didn’t post appropriate signage?

          At the end of the day, what does Texas have to do with any of that other than some artificial construct of incorporation? All PRACTICAL considerations – and the applicable safety laws which might have been ignored – are in New York.

          If a truck driver, based in Texas, was driving through Kansas and had an accident, that employee could file in Kansas or Texas. They cannot do that anymore.

          I propose that the jurisdiction should relate to the FAULT.

          That is, if you had your accident in Kansas because of slippery, poorly maintained Kansan roads, then Kansas is the jurisdiction for trial.

          If you had your accident because your truck had a bad engine widget from its last service at the home headquarters in Dallas, then Texas is the jurisdiction for trial.

          If both, then, hmm… what’s halfway between the two.. Oklahoma? That should annoy everyone involved.

          It the oil worker, living in Houston, went to drill a well in Oklahoma and fell off the rig, his injury is filed in Texas and not Oklahoma.

          Again, I think there probably should be some correlation to the origin of the FAULT.

          If you fall off an oil rig, the oil rig is built, maintained, etc, IN Oklahoma.

          If it lacks adequate safety rails, that’s an Oklahoma problem. The only connection to Texas is that that’s where your paycheck comes from.

          ———-

          Mathius is open to changing his mind on this.. it just seems silly..

          Mathius also wonders what RIGHT Texas has to tell the courts in Oklahoma that they can’t consider a claim that happened within their borders…

          • It does not prevent you from a civil suit in New York…I am only talking about workmens compensation.

          • Mathius also wonders what RIGHT Texas has to tell the courts in Oklahoma that they can’t consider a claim that happened within their borders… Stay with me here, Padewan….only as it pertains to workmen’s compensation. Nothing prevents you from filing your personal civil suit.

          • There’s a scale.. allow too many frivolous lawsuits vs discourage legitimate suits..

            These changes were put into effect 20 years ago…..the legislature has met 10 times in that 20 years…..nothing has been changed back. The unions did not fight the changes and the lawyers either did not fight or did not have enough power to prevent it.

            Now, we do not have permanent legislators. So they are not on a payroll. They only get paid when they are in session every two years… there are not a lot of lawyers that run for the state legislature. Most of them are businessmen who know how to balance a check book. They make decisions on the viability of the state. No deficits and no debt that is not in the budget that is passed every two years. A mandated balanced budget also helps and the line item veto to the governor prevents pork. (most pork)

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Based on my travels last year I know where your Work Comp Lawyers went. There were hundreds of billboards from Florida through Louisiana advertising their services.

  61. Sir Mathius…… I keep saying this, and I feel like I’m not being heard You are being heard by me Lima Charlie (that means loud and clear to you civvies).

    But when you make decisions that endanger OTHER people, then they should get a say in the matter. No, sir, you get no say in Texas or any other state. None of your business what we do down here…..and we do not drink whiskey to wrestle bulls….we drink Tequila. ( and grog, when we can get it, from some obscure source in LaGuna Madre).

  62. Just A Citizen says:

    More proof of the Snowflake nature of the left.

    The following comment I made in response to a direct question about Us needing to see Trumps tax returns was DELETED by The HIll moderators.

    No! It is irrelevant and not important to any of us.

    Just plain pettiness that is all your desire amounts to.

    • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

      If it’s any consolation, Mathius has been banned from both Red State and HuffPo.

    • No! It is irrelevant and not important to any of us.

      I think it’s relevant.

      I also think he promised to release them, lied about why he couldn’t, and his supporters just bleatingly accepted that overt bullshit and think we should all move along without further ado.

      “Well, yes, he SAID he would show them to us. You know, because a big part of his sales pitch was his supposed business acumen, and we thought it might be nice to be able to substantiate that and also to know if he owes money to Putin or anything like that. And he SAID he would. But then he told us that a voice coming from his left molar “his accountants” told him to not because of absolute bullshit IRS audits, and, sure, that doesn’t make any sense and the IRS itself has said that that doesn’t preclude the release of the information, but we’re just going to go ahead and just accept that at face value and move along and we think you should, too, and, in fact, you can forget what we said earlier about it having information we’d like to see, in fact, there’s nothing to see here, move along!”

      These are, by the way, many of the same people who spent years obsessing over conspiracy theories involving Obama’s birth certificate.. but they think it’s just fine that we have no transparency into the potential conflicts of interest involving the President of the United States.. you know, as long as he’s wearing the correct color jersey.

      • His income while president is reviewed annually by the emoluments committee. What happened before is not relevant. In all the investigations, there has been no link between Trump and the Russians uncovered. Yes he did have a beauty pageant in Moscow and he was negotiating for a hotel. The hotel thing fell through before he was elected. His family has not pursued any new business deals overseas since he took office. Trump has been a public figure all his life. His history of business ups and downs and his personal life has been widely published. He is/was a much more known entity than Obama even is today.

        If he did release his tax forms, they would be extremely complicated. I have no doubt that the press would find something in them to criticize. There is no upside for him to release them. Only your desire to destroy the man that beat your crooked heir apparent. Unfortunately, the D’s are about to repeat the same mistake with another crooked politician. This is the very definition of insanity or stupidity, take your pick.

        About the BC. The long form BC has been proven to be a forgery and a rather poor one at that. Maybe someday we will learn the truth.

        • His income while president is reviewed annually by the emoluments committee.

          Unless I’m on that committee, I don’t trust it.

          As we’re discussing elsewhere.. sunlight is the best disinfectant, right?

        • If he did release his tax forms, they would be extremely complicated. I have no doubt that the press would find something in them to criticize.

          100% absolutely true.

          And completely unfair to him.

          I’ve spoken about this before. He would be held to an IMPOSSIBLE standard.

          There is no upside for him to release them.

          Well, then, certainly true..

          But then, you know, he shouldn’t have, you know, promised to do it.

          That’s called a “lie.”

          Only your desire to destroy the man that beat your crooked heir apparent.

          It has nothing to do with Clinton. I’m glad she lost – I just wish she’d lost to someone better than Trump. I’d take McCain or Romney… hell, I’d take McCain in his current condition.

          But, yes, I loathe Trump. I loathe everything he stands for. I loathe his stupid face.

          And I would be quite pleased to find something in his taxes which destroys him.

          But, and here’s the thing, if “my guy” did this, I’d be wanting to see his returns, too.

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            I do not think it relevant at all because if it were out there, by now you would have seen it leaked. You do know the NY State tax thing was leaked and it died a natural death because there was nothing to it. Hard top believe at this point that anybody is so fucking stupid as to put any credence into anything to do with Russia.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Mathius

            I do agree with you on this……. He should have never promised or even indicated he might release them.

            He should have said, ” My tax returns have nothing to do with what is happening to the working class in this country and ya’ll can go pound sand.”

            • Why is Trump being singled out…..almost every single politician says they are going to release tax information and they never do……just because he is POTUS does not make him different on releasing information.

              Hell, we have politicians that have not filed tax returns and have avoided paying taxes for years and they are still alive and still in office.

              • How many Obama appointees had to refile their taxes and send back social security payments for their nannies?

  63. Woo hoo…..National Bowling Championship in Reno opening back up in May…date to be confirmed.

  64. Canine Weapon says:

  65. Canine Weapon says:

  66. Great news! They had TP in the store today. I didn’t buy any because it was diamond infused.

  67. UVA: 315 – 380 nm
    UVB: 280 – 315 nm, partially blocked by the ozone layer
    UVC: 200 – 280 nm, blocked by the ozone layer

    Traditional UV germicidal lamps used the mercury line at 237 nm. Now LEDs are available at selected wavelengths from 250 nm to 280 nm. It has been reported that 220 nm is the optimum wavelength for Covid19 sterilization as it is absorbed by dead skin cells, thus does not cause sunburn. It is also absorbed by the eye before reaching the lens or cornea. 220 nm can be generated by filtering a deuterium or xenon lamp or by using a eximer source.

    I can a test to what happens when you work too close to an unfiltered mercury discharge tube. You get one hell of a sunburn on the face and eyes. The eyes feel like they have sand in them. Took 3 days to clear up. Very painful ro open or shut your eyes.

    • I almost took a job just a few months ago at a company that produces UV-C lamps.

      I dropped out of the process because they had no sales despite being in business for 10 years, but they swore up and down, they had the best product on the market and were poised for an explosion… well… I wonder how they’re doing today…

      The place was called Purple Sun and, in addition to the above, they seemed to be planning to work their entire staff into the grave.

      It has been reported that 220 nm is the optimum wavelength for Covid19 sterilization as it is absorbed by dead skin cells, thus does not cause sunburn. It is also absorbed by the eye before reaching the lens or cornea. 220 nm can be generated by filtering a deuterium or xenon lamp or by using a eximer source.

      I would be leery of “it has been reported” when it comes to this stuff.

      The same guy I interviewed with – a world-renowned expert in it – told me (pre-COVID) that he would not, no way, no how, ever make or endorse a home version of the product because it was way too dangerous for lay use. He said it needed to be operated by highly trained professional staff, with warnings and signs, and remote operation, and safeguards.

      Now, to be fair, he was producing something to basically just operate as a “kill everything” tool rather than anything so fine-grained as exactly 200 nm to kill just Coronavirus… so, you know, not a perfect comparison.. but still, I’d just been leery of jumping to accept the conclusion.

      And he was producing heavy-duty industrial caliber products, not something like a home-use lightbulb. So, again, not exactly a perfect comparison.. but still..

      I can a test to what happens when you work too close to an unfiltered mercury discharge tube. You get one hell of a sunburn on the face and eyes. The eyes feel like they have sand in them. Took 3 days to clear up. Very painful ro open or shut your eyes.

      I’ve heard that some people have them in the air ducts in their house… that could be an interesting application. No danger of hurting anyone in my air ducts and, in fact, if a certain pirate were crawling through my ducts, I’d be just fine with frying him.

      But as for using it on my body? Or where it might cause harm to my eyes? Pending further information, that’s gonna be a no from me.

        • Here we extended our previous studies to 222-nm light and tested the hypothesis that there exists a narrow wavelength window in the far-UVC region, from around 200–222 nm, which is significantly harmful to bacteria, but without damaging cells in tissues.

          I think they severely underestimate just how very, very white I am. 😛

          We found that 222-nm light kills MRSA efficiently but, unlike conventional germicidal UV lamps (254 nm), it produces almost no premutagenic UV-associated DNA lesions in a 3D human skin model and it is not cytotoxic to exposed mammalian skin.

          Pretty damned cool stuff.

          That said, models and mice are nice.

          But, you know, be leery of this kind of thing in practice.

          As you, yourself point out, you could give yourself one hell of a sunburn or eye damage.

          Or, you know, you could give yourself cancer. And I, for one, don’t care to have a second helping of cancer.

          We found that 222-nm light kills MRSA efficiently

          Also, while cool and, seriously, fuck MRSA.. MRSA ain’t coronavirus… for starters, it’s a bacteria not a, you know, virus.

          From your second link: In short, exposure to far-UVC light is safe for people, but potentially lethal for viruses in the air.

          Well, now, that makes sense.

          Virii tend to have far less resilience than bacteria in general, and if the sale point of 220nm UV-C is that it “doesn’t penetrate far” into biological material (and consequently get through our layer of dead skin), then that’s of no matter to a virus because, well, they don’t have far to penetrate.. just a tiny bit and you’re in.. and it’s dead.

          Sounds great.

          While I like this idea – and I do think it has potential – I’d still be leery of accepting that it won’t cause skin cancer or eye problems. I’d also be leery of imagining it as a panacea.

          I could very definitely find its way into the arsenal. But I still remember how the guy from PupleSun spoke about it.. and he knows a whole hell of a lot more about the topic than we do.. and if he said (contrary to his own economic interests) that there’s no way he’d ever sell for personal use, I have to suspect that he knows some salient things that we don’t.

          The big picture idea is that these lamps could be incorporated into conventional light fittings so that they would be very easy to install in public spaces such as airports, trains stations, airplanes, etc. To us it looks like one of the very few approaches that has the potential to prevent the spread of coronavirus, as opposed to curing it.

          I appreciate the enthusiasm, but…..

          But I’d point out that cooties have a habit of adapting to such things. They’re already mostly resistant to UV-A and UV-B because, you know.. the sun.. or at least resistant for a time.

          I imagine that, quite quickly, we’d find that they were starting to build up resistance to UV-C just like bacteria build up resistance due to overuse of antibiotics.

          To that end, I’m cool with using it in hospitals and were sterilization is necessary.. and maybe maybe to just nuke the Amazon packages my wife keeps buying. And I’d love to have one that I can use – on occassion – when someone gets sick just to clear out a room.

          But putting them all over the place and having them on all the time… just sounds like a really efficient way of breeding new cooties with UV-resistance.

          It might work to kill off this plague at least, though, so, you know, that’s good. ::shrug::

          That said…..

          Trump: “Suppose that we hit the body with tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that it hasn’t been checked and you’re going to test it. Suppose you can bring the light inside the body.”

          Just…

          • You would not make it as a research supervisor. Too much negativity.

            It was noted in the press conference that sunlight kills the virus in 90s. Sunlight is mostly UV A so the virus has not adapted to it. Sunlight is extremely bright. Most conventional incoherent lamps cannot produce the same level of UV unless you are working very close to them or the light is focused or collimated. In my case, I was working less then 6″ from the lamp aligning a spectrometer at the time. In normal use, I would have not gotten the burns. The harm to tissue is dependent on time and intensity. You get sunburns due to long exposure time much longer than is required to kill the bugs.

            Your air duct example would be excellent for airplanes, ORs, ERs, and other medical facilities. Maybe even for schools.

      • I had one on my well water in NJ. It was a Hg fluorescent lamp w/o the phosphor hence put out the 238 nm Hg line.

        • Ok…sunlight it is……I hereby decree that the world take the time off, go naked, and lay in the sun for a week. There must be ample cold beer and churros available, and in one certain area, Dr Pepper.

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            That’s what Ben Franklin did without the Dr. Pepper. He may have invented that later.

  68. If Trump weren’t born into wealth, he’d be, at best, a used car salesman.

    So I asked this question as a SUFA-Survey:

    Would you trust Trump to sell you a used car?

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tycoon_(TV_series)

      This is fiction, but some people do have the talent to score big in life. I have no doubt that DJT would have succeeded at anything he tried.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        Total agreement. Anybody who thinks not is fooling themselves, not following his career, the ups and downs (see a previous comment above I made above about the 89-90 meltdown) or just so full of hate they cannot think rationally.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        I would trust him as much as I would/do trust any salesman.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      He was the son of a Queens developer who worked on his father’s job sites. Would any Kennedy, a single one of that lopsided extended family be able to support themselves without old Joe’s liquor connection that continues to this day.

  69. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    Thinking, thinking, thinking ….then it came to me this morning. Trump and I are within a few months in age of each other. Both of us were NYC kids, both of us had very old school mothers. In the late 1940’s and 1950’s when you got really sick, Mom would whip out a “steam vaporizer” . This neat little device was a glass mason type jar with an electric heating element in it. You filled it with water and Vicks, yes good old smelly Vicks vapo rub. When you turned it on the heat would dissolve the Vicks in the water and the steam created would escape through a reverse cone shaped funnel on top and be dissipated throughout the room. It would provide moist hot air infused with eucalyptus. Now why should I suddenly remember this? Because after Mom died and we cleaned out the apartment I took it and had used it for years on some wood restoration projects, without the Vicks, to “steam” out dings and dents. Funny thing. If you plug it in today, frayed fabric electric cord and all, you still get a strong hit of Vicks which has been absorbed into the heating elements!

    • AHHHHHHHHHHHHH…the old vaporizer with Vicks Vapo rub………but, dont forget, that with your cold and/or cough, you got Vicks rubbed on your chest and then covered with a handkerchief and a heating pad to keep the “vapors” inside…….served with a heaping bowl full of homemade chicken soup…..instant cure. ( if you remember, Vicks also put out a vaporizer under their brand….still have it with frayed cords and two pronged plug ). And I am still alive to this day. No electrocutions and no house fires. The old things still work to this day…..and the crap from China, breaks down.

      Hell, if you remember, homemade chicken soup cured everything….broken hearts, broken bones, colds, fevers, acne, every disease known to man and/or animal. Then pharma took over and chicken soup became a pariah. There is still nothing like old recipe chicken soup. And NONE OF THIS ORGANIC SNOWFLAKE FOO FOO SHIT THAT COMES IN A CAN. Real chicken soup…with real salt and pepper where you bake the chicken and boil it off the bone for real chicken meat in your soup, laced with carrots, celery, and onions with REAL milk or cream added……. What you don’t eat, chunk it in the fridge and warm it up again. Ya know Stephen, some of these youngsters can learn some good things from those of us a little long in the tooth.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        Sounds like your Mom and my Mom would have gotten along fine. The wife still trots out the vicks when she gets a chest cold.

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