Time For A Warning

meatI’ve been exploring many issues lately, one being the impending shortage of beef, pork and chicken.  This is real and going to explode very soon, as in, empty coolers at stores.  This will have a huge impact in the cities and suburbs.  This isn’t fear mongering, because most people can live without meat, but don’t think for a minute that panic will not explode (see the toilet paper issue).  When a Hamburger Helper meal costs in excess of 15 bucks, people will be very nervous.  This will also hit fast food hard, more closures coming.  It’s not a lack of supply as many animals are being euthanized, as in the millions.  The restaurant industry will also get crushed, even with the reopening occurring.  What I’m worried about is that only meat packing plants are being talked about.  Why not the other packing plants?  Hopefully this will be very short lived.  You have been warned.

 

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  1. The conspiracy theorist’s heads are exploding with all the stuff going on. This meat issue is from info given to locals by the suppliers. The horse has spoken and when it comes from the horses mouth, I tend to believe.

    • I don’t understand this. Vegetables perish if not processed immediately. Meat on the hoof does not. It just takes a little more feed. To destroy it would be a total write off as compared to a slight loss. I can see killing piglets and calves but this will impact future herds months down the road. Chickens are slightly different as they breed year around and have a shorter time from hatch to market. Local butchers can step in and start selling freezer meat by the quarter. I can see some shortage if the problem is imports but that would not explain why stock is being slaughtered. Milk and eggs must be consumed fresh so I can see them being tossed out. I understood in part that for milk and eggs it was a packaging problem. Schools, restaurants, etc. buy in bulk (large containers and 30 doz. crates) as opposed to the smaller containers sold in stores. People still need to eat so consumption should not be significantly lower. I did hear from my nephew ( a butcher) that premium cuts of beef are not being consumed in restaurants so they will be cheaper.

      That being said, Wendy’s is reporting that 20% of their stores are out of beef. Egg and dairy cases have not been overflowing these past few weeks.

      Some of the meat packers are closed because of outbreaks of the virus but that should just be temporary. Sill massive shortages of paper products here.

      • With schools, colleges and restaurants closed along with 30 million on unemployment, consumption is way down. Fast food places are only getting 1/4 of their usual patronage as people are staying home. Milk is being poured out because of lack of consumption.

        Locally, the meat shelves are low. Same with paper products. Traffic is low. I’m not worried about food, got plenty. It’s people that concern me.

  2. A word on placing Covid case in nursing homes. Dead old people no longer consume SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. It is to the governments advantage to thin the herd of old codgers.

    • I refuse to be thinned out. I will NOT be thinned out. I will continue to live and consume my SS…I do not need medicare but am forced on it. ( Thanks Obama, I was supposed to have Tri Care for Life but you took that away ). At any rate, since Mathius is a big Obama supporter and a future supporter of like minded politicians, I will live past the actuarial tables and consume medicare and social security money just to piss Mathius off……he may get in his laughs with this next election but I will still be alive and spending his hard earned tax money (mine too) and out live all the death panels and such. So….there.

      • But, but, but … it is for the greater good that you die!

        • The Colonel’s new flag flying outside his home…..instead of the Gonzales, Come and take it flag with the cannon.,,,,,,it is the Texas flag emblazoned with a gun totin’, hat wearing figure with the saying…come and get me. BUT….don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.

          Raptors on stand by…….Cowboy hat, boot wearing, two gun totin’ raptors supported by mini gun totin’ raptors behind the walls of the makeshift Alamo.

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          I am sure that somewhere in the Mathius book of cartoon art…or within his ability to design such a cartoon….you get the picture. How about it Mathius…….a challenge!!

      • I’m gonna one up Ya Colonel. I’m gonna be on SS and Medicare until AFTER Mathius dies off, then I’m gonna enjoy his kids money for awhile. Actually, like many Crat voters, I’m gonna collect long after death, just because 😀

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      I pretty much figured out that was Cuomo’s medicaid play!

  3. DALLAS, TX—Clad in fedoras, smoking cigars, and wielding Tommy guns, prohibition enforcement agents raided a speakeasy salon today, busting a dangerous gang of haircutting criminals.

    The community thanked the brave agents for keeping them safe from the underground haircutting crime ring. The business has been operating in secret, with hair stylists opening a little eye slot and asking for the password before letting ladies in to get their hair cut. Authorities believe they have smuggled hundreds of desperate women in for cuts, colors, and even deadly shampoos.
    “Freeze, toots!” a Bureau of Salon Prohibition enforcement agent shouted as he busted into the underground salon. The hairstylists scrambled to press a button that turned the salon into a take-out Chinese restaurant, but it was too late. “Ya can’t hornswoggle me, toots, see?”
    “Listen here, see? We’re gonna bust ya, see? There’s no room for cuttin’ hair on my turf, toots,” the lead agent said after he’d cuffed the ringleader of the dangerous criminals. “We’re gonna drag you into the slammer, put ya on ice for a while, see?”
    The agents then jumped in their 1920s sedan and sped off to bust an underground gym.

  4. DALLAS — A Dallas salon owner who has continued offering services despite a citation, a cease-and-desist letter and a restraining order was sentenced Tuesday to seven days in jail.

    In Tuesday afternoon’s hearing, Dallas Civil District Judge Eric Moyé also ordered her to pay thousands in fines for refusing to shut down her salon in violation of shelter-in-place orders.

    Salon a la Mode owner Shelley Luther reopened Thursday, even though the state has required nonessential businesses to close in response to the coronavirus pandemic. Gov. Greg Abbott announced Tuesday that salons will be allowed to reopen Friday.

    The judge heard testimony from a Dallas code inspector and a Dallas police officer who both testified they saw clients inside the salon getting haircuts and manicures over the last seven days despite Moyé’s rulings.

    She received one day in jail for every day she was opened in spite of the order. Judge Eric Moye’ offered her an out asking that she apologize to the court for defying the restraining order and apologize to Governor Abbott for defying the executive order. She chose to go to jail and was taken into custody.

    City attorneys argued Luther willfully and flagrantly violated Moyé’s order.

    Luther took the stand saying she had to open out of necessity. “I have no choice. I need to feed my family, and my stylists could not feed their families,” Luther said.

    But she also testified that she had recently received a loan from the federal government.

    Moyé told Luther she was both criminally and civilly in violation of his order.

    He said Luther could not just take matters into her own hands because she decided that’s what she wanted to do. “The rule of law governs us. People cannot take it upon themselves to determine what they will and will not do,” said Moyé.

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    The Colonel’s thoughts:

    First, this falls within the realm of purview of let the market decide. If people want to take the chance then that is free will and choice. Let the people decide what to do. That is my view.

    Second, this also flies in the face of my stance of the “rule of law”. It was an executive order, lawfully signed, and it was an injunction, lawfully issued. For me to say that it is ok to violate the “rule of law” would make me a hypocrite of the highest order. So, the rule of law stands as the judge (a Democrat) says. That is my view as the rule of law over rules by stance above. I do not like it but it is the law…..black and white…thank you very much.

    Third, and this is the crux of the issue as far as I am concerned, She applied for and received government aid in order to pay her salon expenses and employees. So, it appears, that she took money designed to help her get through the financial crises and still defied the order saying that she needed to open to survive. The loan, which she applied for and received, would be forgiven, under the statutes, provided she used the funds for its intended purpose. To pay her employees and expenses. This is where the Colonel gets pissed……she applied for and received a “forgivable” note to bridge the closure gap and still defied the order when there was no harm. Throw away the key This is playing the system and this salon was not in a poor section of town…it is top of the line.

    • The Colonel’s Order: Sentence her to one year in the hold of the Hammer, giving free beard trims, haircuts, and styling to the Pirate and his crew!

      • One last thing on this subject…..I am very surprised that a Democrat ruing was actually within the law as it was designed. KUDOS…a glimmer of hope that a Democrat followed the law.

        Side note: I hope he does not go up into any high buildings any time soon.

    • I have an issue with the Judge saying apologize or go to jail. That flies in the face of the law and the Constitution. Compelled speech is illegal. Secondly, EO’s are NOT laws per say and should NEVER be applied as such. That’s just too much power for one person. In this case, she failed to follow a court order, so that is a violation of law. The solution is a simple one. The State should have simply took her business license and closed her down and allowed her to reopen a week after all others.

      • I had sympathy for her until it was revealed that she took government money. Strictly speaking, EOs should apply only to the government employees under the executive. They are orders on how to run the government. I assume in this case, the legislature has granted the governor certain powers in an emergency. Only then would the dictates of the governor have legal authority sufficient to jail and fine people. Now one could argue that this lock down has gone beyond the emergency status and there is no longer any legitimate reason to continue it.

        • However unintended it may have been, Colonel, your post implies she had money from the government loan, then opened under the pretense of not being able to give any money to her 19 employees. That is untrue.

          I have done some research on the details here…she applied for the government loan BUT DIDN’T RECEIVE THE FUNDS UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE SHE APPEARED IN COURT. When she was in court, she hadn’t even had time to distribute funds to her employees. She opened up before she got any money and most likely didn’t know for sure when it would arrive.

          I support what she did. I also understand that she defied the order, took the risk, and chose to go to jail rather than apologize. I applaud the way she stood her ground, believing she had nothing to apologize for.

          Murf

          • True, Murf…all you say is true……but she still defied the law. Stop it there. She is guilty. It matters not when she got her money and it matters not whether she was starving to death…..she violated a lawful order and injunction. There are consequences.

            The judge, in my interpretation, offered her a way out. He was fulfilling the law by issuing the sentence. THEN, in a pure liberal democratic style, offered an alternative. Apologize for violating the law…… in other words, recognize that what you did was wrong, and you go free.

            She chose to stand her ground….Kudos for her. She continued to defy the law by stating that she has done nothing wrong when she actually did something wrong. Ok..it is her right to stand up and flout the law….she stood her ground and the consequences of it…jail time.

            Right or wrong……the law is the law. My late pappy once told me, and lawyer friends agree, that lawyers get rich off principle. You may be correct in principle, but the cost of the principle that violates law…….is still a cost. You lose.

            Very much like the case of a reporter going to jail for refusing to disclose sources. They have a right to not disclose a source but the penalty for that right could be jail time for violating a court order and rightly so. It goes back to……….if you do not like the law change it. Do not violate it. Like speeding……you do not like the government telling you how fast to drive and you get a ticket. You pay the consequence for violating the law…..now, lead a revolution, change the law, stand in open rebellion….you are free to do that….as I said…Kudos…..but there are still going to be consequences for your actions.

            Pretty simple actually.

            • Not a couple of days before, Colonel. The day before, and that day was Sunday when banks are not open.

              All I said was the way it was stated in your post IMPLIED, not outright stated, that she received money that she was to pay to her employees, but opened claiming she and her employees had no money to feed their children.

              The evidence I submit of the implication in your post, even if unintended, is that I am not the only one who took it that way. T-Ray said in response to your post, and I quote:

              I had sympathy for her until it was revealed that she took government money.

              That’s all I’m saying…a more thorough look at the facts surrounding WHEN she received the government loan changes my level of sympathy and support for her actions. Not saying it should change yours in any way.

              I am also not disagreeing with the fact that she defied the order and chose jail time as a consequence. Neither am I disagreeing with your point about we are a nation of laws, etc. She chose her path and will spend jail time for it.

              Murf

          • Murf says However unintended it may have been, Colonel, your post implies she had money from the government loan, then opened under the pretense of not being able to give any money to her 19 employees. That is untrue.

            Careful now……here is what I said She applied for and received government aid in order to pay her salon expenses and employees. It is true, she testified that she applied for and received the government aid.

            I also said So, it appears, that she took money designed to help her get through the financial crises and still defied the order saying that she needed to open to survive. No where did I say that she has done this in subterfuge and refused to pay anyone,. She testified in court that even though she received the money a couple days before, she still intends to defy the order…money or no money. This is wrong and she pays the price.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Colonel

              The LAW hugh? Wonder how our Founders felt about such views? When a law is a violation of our rights we are to submit as the English ordered? Or are we to rebel against the tyranny, as Jefferson penned?

          • Interesting to note…Clay Jenkins of Dallas, who is prosecuting the salon owner to the limit, is on record saying the city of Dallas will no longer prosecute theft under $750. One of his rationalizations for this (this is not a quote) is that people who are desperate to provide food for their families need to be shown mercy.

            They are also releasing inmates from city jails who have less than 30 days left on their sentences, so they can avoid catching COVID-19 since it’s in the city jails. BUT THEY ARE PUTTING HER IN THE SAME JAIL FROM WHICH OTHERS ARE BEING RELEASED, and she has only a 7 day sentence.

            Therefore, they are putting her MORE AT RISK OF CATCHING COVID-19 NOW THAN BEFORE. And the reason to order her to stay closed is to keep COVID-19 from being spread by “opening too soon”. So the judge’s decision to jail her, while lawful under current orders, actually is putting the general population more at risk, since she will be in a facility known to have people with the virus. Then she will be released….or will she? Will they arbitrarily decide that uh oh, you’re exposed to COVID-19 now, you have to stay under isolation.

            Next thing we hear, she has mysteriously been found dead in her cell…ruled a suicide after a 2 minute internal investigation….we don’t know how this happened!!! Epstein, anyone?

            Ok, that was facetious. No one even remembers Epstein anymore, do they?

            They sure as hell don’t remember Philip Haney, the whistleblower who was found dead by the side of the road next to his car in February, and ruled a suicide by the sheriff after an investigation that was so over so quickly you missed it if you blinked.

            Murf

      • Gman says: I have an issue with the Judge saying apologize or go to jail. That flies in the face of the law and the Constitution. Compelled speech is illegal.

        Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…….there is sure a fine line in the use of the term compelled speech….however, I did not see it as compelled, although by strict interpretation…I guess it could be. I saw it as a face saving compromise way of both parties winning…..one, the judge holds his ground by issuing a sentence for violation of law. She was found guilty. BUT….like turning state’s evidence where people get off all the time, he offers a compromise. Agree that you violated a lawful order and apologize, I will commute your sentence.

        A win/win. Both parties win. The rule of law wins and she wins by standing up for her PRINCIPLE

        • Colonel, I’m not privy to what the Governor did concerning unemployment insurance for small business owners or those who are self employed, but I suspect that none of these solon workers were eligible, unless the Governor changed it. With that said, most small salons do not have employees, hairdressers and such rent the work areas from the salon owner, thus, self employed. These people usually come with a customer base already established and that base will follow to other salons should things not work out at the other. House calls and working from home was always an option until salon space opened up, hence, no need for unemployment insurance payments. When the governor shut it all down, these people simply couldn’t work, period, without breaking the law (as you put it). This complete loss of income would have never happened under any other circumstances.

          Then the Fed loans ran dry, because of asshats like Harvard and the L.A. Lakers sucking up big chunks, then another delay by the Crats and it seems it became a necessity to open up, because their was no other way of feeding the kids and paying bills. OK, then, she just got a Fed loan but was in court and called selfish by a Crat Judge. The Governor failed her and those like her if no other options were available.

          That leads me to the customers, who also violated the Stay at Home order. Why were they not also arrested?

          This one may not be over yet. I smell a serious lawsuit coming Dallas’s way.

          • There are plenty of options. Most likely, as you put it, they were independent contractors. They rent space, pay taxes, pay their own U/E tax, etc. Independent contractors are not exempt from unemployment unless they opt out of U/E as an independent. They are entitled to receive unemployment pay, provided they paid into the system. Independent contractors are NOT A WARD of anyone except themselves. So, it was not up to the salon owner to provide them anything. It is a simple business decision.

            However, if these hair dressers and such are employees, then they are also entitled to unemployment insurance, stimulus checks, etc. The salon owner applies for a loan to bridge that gap until it opens back up. As you know from your own experience, the old days of banking are over. I used to be able to call my bank officer and tell them what I needed and the money was in the account the next day. Now days, there is no such service so to apply for a loan takes time…up to 30 days when everything is perfect. That is not the fault of the governor, the President nor anyone else. It simply is the way things are these days.

            So, the fact that it took some time for the loan approval process to go through the channels garners very little sympathy from me. It is the way of things.

            In this case, there was no need for either an employee or independent contractor in Texas NOT to receive unemployment compensation provided they paid taxes. There are several avenues to procure funds here in Texas, including from the State itself….but you have to apply…it is not a given.

            • Maybe it’s just me, but this is an act of Martial Law. To arrest someone for engaging in commerce because they can get sick and spread a virus is the end of freedom in Texas. What happens when the next virus hits? I think it’s wrong to demand at the point of a gun based on a maybe. That is what is happening. Nothing was going to stop the virus. The “experts” screwed up on the mask issue. Give people guidelines and let the chips fall where they may.

              • Mathius says:

                I really think we must be living in two separate realities, sometimes..

                You see “the experts screwed up on the mask issue” and I see “the experts are figuring out answers regarding the NOVEL coronavirus and gave the best advice they had at the time.”

                You see “arrest someone for engaging in commerce because they can get sick and spread a virus” and I see “arrest someone for willfully defying a public safety order and contributing to a cumulative risk during a pandemic which is actively killing about one 9/11 worth of people each day in this country.”

                You see “end of freedom in Texas” and I see “you don’t have a ‘freedom’ to willfully endanger other people.”

              • We do see things differently. In the beginning, I had no problems with what was being done. The intent was to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed, and I’m fine with all that. Now, we are in a different time when States are opening up. Why not open up faster and keep the masks on? It’s the main cause of transmitting the virus in public, so wear a mask and let’s get back to work. I’m all for staying in the stay at home stuff till end of July, it wouldn’t bother me in the least. But the arrest and jailing of someone is bullshit. They could have closed her shop in another way, it’s not like cops are super busy these days.

              • Sir Mathius…you are close…..reaaalllyyy close………let me help you across the finish line.

                You see “the experts screwed up on the mask issue” and I see “the experts are figuring out answers regarding the NOVEL coronavirus and gave the best advice they had at the time.” Yes, I agree with one further step. This is the fault of no one or an administration not prepared. There was no way to prepare for this…so…in retrospect I will give you a pass on this one.

                You see “arrest someone for engaging in commerce because they can get sick and spread a virus” and I see “arrest someone for willfully defying a public safety order and contributing to a cumulative risk during a pandemic which is actively killing about one 9/11 worth of people each day in this country.” I see someone who stood up in court and willfully disobeyed an injunction…so take out public safety order and insert executive order and then add court injunction and then add, standing up face to face with a judge after having received her money saying that it makes no difference. I am not closing anyway. Giving a judge no way out.

                You see “end of freedom in Texas” and I see “you don’t have a ‘freedom’ to willfully endanger other people.” I see both you and G man in the same boat on this one…meaning both are wrong, in my opinion. I see this having nothing to do with freedom but willfully flouting authority and a lawful order. You do not have the freedom to do this. So…………..I do not see an ending of freedom, I see upholding the rule of law.*****

                However, it did take some hutzpah to look a judge in the eye and tell him that it does not matter….and telling him to send her to jail because she thinks she is correct. She stood on her principle but violated a law in doing so. She pays the price.
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                Now, as I said above, there is risk involved in all situations. I would not have closed anything down. I would have alerted people to the dangers and let the market decide.

              • I agreed to the violation of the injunction above. This is mainly due to a less than adequate understanding of what power the Texas governor has and what the LEO’s can enforce and how. With that said, I also understand that following unlawful orders is wrong and can also get one screwed.

                I’m sure that there will be more to come about this women. Just for fun, bet she’s a liberal 😛

              • Mathius says:

                Gman,

                The intent was to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed, and I’m fine with all that.

                Great! Glad you approve.

                Now, we are in a different time when States are opening up. Why not open up faster and keep the masks on?

                We are? You must know more than I do.

                Because I sure as hell don’t know that.

                To be clear, I don’t know that we AREN’T “in a different time,” but I sure as hell don’t know that we ARE, either.

                You see, I pay attention. I’m dramatically better versed in virology and epidemiology than the average bear. I’m pretty sharp, too, if I do say so myself. And I can say, from my lofty position, that I don’t have a fucking clue what the answer to this is.

                I know just enough to see how deep the rabbit hole goes and just HOW complicated this kind of thing is. And I know that I don’t know squat in the scheme of things.

                It is NOT so simple as “we’re in a different place now” – are we? I don’t know. What continually astounds me is how confidently you make assertions like this where you cannot possibly be sufficiently informed or knowledgable or (relevantly) educated to make this kind of proclamation.

                That doesn’t make you wrong – you COULD BE right. You could be right because you just happen to be right, or it could be that you’re right for the wrong reason. Or it could be that the question doesn’t really have a “right answer.” But you could just as easily be wrong.

                I’m not, say, an expert in rocket science. I understand the basics, propulsion, thrust, fuel mixtures, aerodynamics, stabilization, trajectories, rentry, air-braking, orbital dynamics, rocket-equation, that kind of stuff. I know it’s a big complicated thing. Give me 20 years and an unlimited budget and I’ll put a man on Mars. But for now, here, today, I only know that, in the scheme of things, I don’t know jack. So if NASA tells me that “X” is the best way they know to get a rocket into space, I know enough to know that I am NOT qualified to tell them “no, it’s Y.” Whereas, it seems, you would just wade in with some intermediate level of understanding that is in no way equivalent to theirs and confidently assert that it’s definitely, absolutely, undeniably “Z.”

                Imagine being a guy who is an amateur rocket enthusiast who really only started digging into the topic a few months ago, and walking into NASA and demanding to speak to the director so that you can explain the proper way to get a rocket to Mars. That’s what you look like.

                Why not open up faster and keep the masks on? It’s the main cause of transmitting the virus in public, so wear a mask and let’s get back to work.

                Maybe.

                Maybe there are problems with shortages of masks. Or that masks aren’t worn correctly? Or that wearing a mask leads to overconfidence and therefore further spread? Or that there are a ton of cheap / shoddy masks which do nothing?

                Maybe there are idiots going around who are “wearing masks” but have cut open the front to make it easier to breathe? Or who don’t wear it over their nose? And that these people think they’re protected or incapable of spreading the disease, so they get together with other people and spread it?

                Or any of a thousand other possibilities which I don’t know enough to even speculate about, but which, I’m sure, an actual professional could go on about at length?

                Want to bet that someone in most governor’s offices has a list with every one of these considerations and made a considered recommendation based on the pros and cons?

                The point isn’t that “you’re wrong.” I’m not saying you are. What I’m saying is that neither of us is qualified to answer this question just as neither of us is qualified to tell NASA how to put a satellite in orbit.

                The POINT is that you just shouldn’t be so damned confident.

                The governors (nor the President) cannot be trusted because they’re politicians (read: assholes). They do not have your best interests at heart. They have their own political interests at heart. So they are not the gospel either.

                And the doctors / experts have their own biases, agendas, and motives, too. And if if they are well-intentioned, they’re not all-knowing, or error-proof. They are not gospel, either.

                But there are plenty of smart, informed, educated, experienced, competent professionals weighing in on this subject. In the face of the FACT that we are just not qualified, we should listen to them rather than insist we know better. Not blindly, not as sheep. Take it with a grain of salt. Dig, try to understand the full picture. But when someone like Fauci says “we can’t open up” – and his boss really wants to open up – we should take a moment to wonder if maybe he knows something, understands something we don’t.

                It’s not to say “they’re definitely right and we’re definitely wrong,” but that, in the face of such an unbalanced level of expertise, if we have a disagreement, the likelihood is that they’re right and I’m wrong.

                If you and I have a disagreement about firearms, I might be right and you might be wrong…. but, realllly…. the smart money is on you. Why? Because you know a fuck-ton more than me about the topic and have spent years learning about it and I am just some idiot who fired a rifle a few times at camp when he was a kid and how has access to google. Our opinions on the topic are not of equal value.

                I’m pretty good at RISK.. but if you have to pick a general for a real war, you’re better off going with the Colonel. Why? Because he’s a pro and I’m not. And he knows a whole hell of a lot more than me and has the training and experience to inform him better. Maybe – maybe – I would turn out better or just luck into a winning strategy. But, realllllyyy… the smart money would be on him. Our opinions on the topic of warfare are just not of equal value.

  5. https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/05/harvard-law-prof-coronavirus-is-an-excuse-to-dump-free-speech-property-rights-from-constitution/

    Notice that he just wants to reinterpret the Constitution, not change it. In order to do what he wants, the 2nd must go first.

  6. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    Looks like a straight pizza diet for the immediate future.

  7. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    NOTE TO MATHIUS:

    On your “mistaken” trade. If your boss apologizes for overreacting, even with a sly grin and tap on the shoulder, say thanks, (no more) and give a shit eating grin.

    If, he says NOTHING, start looking for another job. His tirade and overreaction caused him a loss of face. He will remember that. That’s bad. (I’ve faced that more than once).

    Regarding your co-employee, the rat. 1. send him anonymously a rubber rat in the mail at home followed by a dead fish. 2.Then call the cops some night a month from now from a throw away phone and tell them there is a hostage crisis going on in his house.

    • Mathius says:

      No, he almost never apologies unless he’s absolutely dead-to-rights wrong. And even then, you’d have to back him into a corner.

      What’s worse, though, is that he sets the bar for “acceptable performance” at “100% perfection,” so that any problem, however minor, is unacceptable. This was a bigger issue, easily the biggest I’ve had in 4 years, but any issue is proof that “nothing works and everything is falling apart.”

      Did you settle 10,000 trades without any issues? So what? That’s your job. Did one of them take an extra day to clear up a minor hiccup? Operations is clearly a disaster!

      Did you go above-and-beyond or do something impressive or praiseworthy? No, you didn’t. You did what you’re supposed to. You “met the bar” and you don’t get a pat on the back for just doing what you’re supposed to do.

      Did he pull you out of Passover seder – twice – for non-urgent matters? Yes? Well don’t expect any kind of credit for your commitment to the firm – you’re just supposed to be available 24×7. That’s just doing your job.

      Did I do four hours of work on Saturday because he poorly explained what he needed on Friday? Yes. Yes, I did. Is that going to be relevant come bonus time? Nope. Why not? Because, of course, I’m supposed to work on weekends. There’s no reason I should need to spend time with my family when there’s work I could be doing!

      Did he send an ambiguous email that all three recipients (myself included) independently interpreted one way, but he intended another? Yes. Is it his fault for being unclear? No. Apparently not. Did he chew me out because “nobody follows up on his instructions”? Yes. Did he see any irony in the fact that he said that during a call I made to him to follow up on his instructions? No.

      Does he refuse to follow basic standards of restarting his computer occasionally and not opening hundreds of documents at a time? Yes. Is it my fault when his computer crashes? Also, yes. Is this proof that “nothing works in this firm”? Evidently, it is. Have I repeatedly explained to him simple fixes to his most common self-inflicted problems and documented them clearly for him? Yes. Does he still call me angry and flustered when he encounters those problems? Also yes. Has he learned the error of his ways and started following the directions of the CTO? That would be a ‘no.’

      Do I sometimes get calls demanding immediate answers to questions that I cannot possibly have off the cuff? Yes. Does he get angry and impatient when I tell him I need a minute to put the answers together? Yes. Does he sometimes demand an immediate answer with the understanding that it’s just a best-effort? Yes. Does he fault you if that best-effort isn’t right? Also yes. Does he care that people have explained he can either have immediate answers or give people the time to confirm answers, but not both? It doesn’t seem he does.

      Did I get criticized in my last annual review because, and I quote, “you sometimes put your family ahead of work.” Amazingly, yes.

      So it’s impossible to build up any kind of “positive” credit, but everything short of 24×7 total commitment and perfection counts against you.

      There’s no way to “win.”

      All I can do is lose. And I don’t really enjoy that.

      Seriously, he’s one of the least insane PM’s I’ve worked for, but it could still be a master class on how to demotivate your employees.

      ——–

      “Hmm… I bet I can get the most out of my people if I give exclusively negative feedback and punishment, while ignoring any personal responsibility, refusing to follow advice, and demanding my employees be instantly responsive all day every day to the exclusion of any time of personal or family life.”

      ——–

      Oh, and does he pay a significant premium over what his employees could make at another firm? Also no.

      So why stay? Because he doesn’t believe in letting people go, and the firm is incredibly stable… so… job security. ::shrug::

      • I still offer a raptor or two for some………………uh…..moral support?

      • Risk Assessment the Texas way….

        ** Due to our societal and legislative response to COVID19, Texas lost $75B dollars in areas with low risk from COVID, $40B dollars in medium risk areas, and $1B dollars in high risk areas.

        **Due to our societal and legislative response to COVID19, Texas closed 191 counties with low risk from COVID, 50 counties in medium risk areas, and 13 counties in high risk areas.

        As of May 5, this is what has happened. So let us take a look at some examples of low risk counties ( I will not list all 191 but will give a sample.)

        Low Risk

        Anderson County
        Population 57,741
        Covid cases 29 no deaths
        jobs lost 1,759
        economic impact $112,966,177

        Brewster County
        Population 9,337
        Covid Cases 0
        Jobs lost 684
        Economic impact $28,650,765

        Harris County
        Population 4,652,980
        Covid Cases 6161 w/109 deaths
        Jobs lost 240,517
        Economic impact $29,427,161,253

        Medium Risk

        Collin County
        Population 969,603
        Covid cases 692 w/19 deaths
        Jobs lost 45,083
        Economic impact $4,044,017,812

        McLennan County
        Population 251,259
        Covid Cases 87 w/4 deaths
        Jobs Lost 11,888
        Economic Impact $826,273,807

        Orange County
        Population 85,047
        Covid cases 70 w/1 death
        Jobs lost 2,332
        Economic impact $261,424,705

        High Risk

        Potter County
        Population 120,458
        Covid Cases 430 w/6 deaths
        Jobs Lost 6,410
        Economic impact $577,162,831

        Washington County
        Population 35,043
        Covid cases 140 w/14 deaths
        Jobs lost 1,386
        Economic impact $100,755,645

        Matagorda County
        Population 36,840
        Covid Cases 60 w/3 deaths
        Jobs lost 958
        Economic Impact $109,671,559

        _____________________________

        The point being is that your formula for the risks basis economic impact, type of jobs, and population must take into effect many relevant factors. Texas has done this with its gurus….Right or wrong, I see nothing wrong with assessment on the basis of risk.

        When you have a state that loses 75 billion in low risk counties vs losing only 1 billion in high risk counties…..it seems to me that the logical decision rests with risk assessment based on local areas and not using a one size fits all litmus test that comes from cities and states not even associated in the same way.

        Jus’ sayin’….

  8. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/05/06/msnbc-contributor-americans-obsession-with-freedom-blinds-us-to-threats-like-climate-change-viruses-n2568293

    Stupid, stupid, this man is beyond stupid. If there’s anytime we should be “obsessive” about freedom, it’s in times of emergencies. If not, we won’t have any when the emergency is over or we’ll find out the definition for emergencies in the future is anything the power hungry decree an emergency.

  9. VENTURA, CA—Local physician Dr. Greg E. Meade was arrested and charged with endangering the public health after he prescribed a patient fresh air and sunshine.

    “You know what the best thing for you to do right now is to go outside, get some fresh air, and enjoy the sunshine,” the dangerous madman told a patient. “Walk around, breathe in deep, take in the sun. It’ll do you some good.”
    As soon as he said this, authorities busted into his office and tackled him to the ground. “We’re puttin’ you away for good, you anti-science maniac!” an officer shouted as he cuffed the doctor and walked him out to his patrol car. “Now society is finally safe from bigoted, backward, unscientific ideas like that going outside is good for you.”

  10. Mathius says:

    Gman,

    The “experts” screwed up on the mask issue.

    A question for you.

    Let us suppose play a game, you and I.

    I have a fair six-sided die in my hand. You must choose between two options (A) numbers 1-5 or (B) number 6.

    If you are right, you win a new hotrod. If you are wrong, I get to smack you in the face with a large freshwater trout.

    You choose option A. Because, of course you do.

    A makes the most sense. It is the PROBABLE answer. All that you know, all that you reasonably suspect, the preponderance of information available to you at the time of the roll suggest that A is the best available answer. You know it could be B. But odds are it won’t. You took a look at the data and made an educated choice. The rational choice. The only reasonable choice, really.

    I roll and it comes up 6.

    I proceed to smack you in the face with a large freshwater trout.

    Did you “screw up” you choice?

    • Sorry….penalty flag……….what do you have against large fresh water trout?

    • That’s comparing odds, not medical advice. So, I’ll explain something that would make this decision of wearing masks sooner the obvious choice.

      When a patient in a hospital is deemed contagious and is put in isolation, the rules are fairly simple for visitors. Wear a mask and wash your hands when you leave. This may include a cheap gown as well. With a contagious virus that is passed by droplets from the infected, the mask is the best answer, along with clean hands, for not getting the virus.

      Now let’s look back. The experts claimed that wearing a mask was not needed unless one was showing symptoms. They knew of the two week period prior to symptoms (and even no symptoms in many cases). The experts should have made a simple decision, wear a mask and give yourself the best chance to avoid getting the virus, because, it was common sense.

      This failure will be debated for years to come.

      • Mathius says:

        That’s comparing odds, not medical advice

        What is “medical advice” in this sense except odds and statistics?

        We’re talking about a disease which is spread who-knows-how-broadly and affects people somewhere between not-at-all and lethal, maybe has post-infection immunity, but of indeterminate length, which varies amongst different people. The tests are of different makes and have different levels of accuracy – all of which produce false positives and false negatives. We have questions of demographics involving age and comorbidities. We’re not sure about mutation rates, the efficacy or timeline of a vaccine or the societal uptake thereof.
        There are questions of supply lines of masks and gowns and reagents and questions about how best to prioritize these things. There are questions of how easy it is to contract and the nature of human behavior within any proposed framework…. Sooooooooo much uncertainty.

        I mean.. how is this anything EXCEPT playing the odds?

        You look at all this, try to synthesize the information, feed it into all the best models you can make, try to weigh everything in light of the expertise of the most experienced and smartest people you can get ahold of… and then, you chart the best course you can based on the odds.

        When your doc tells you to lose 50lbs.. is he not weighing the odds that your obesity might lead to health problems?

        • Soooooo……more algos? I am of the community of believers that believes that algos are part of the problem and not a cure. In MY EXPERT****opinion……we should not rely on algos as a triggering mechanism.

          ****I am not a math major……but I do have a pencil and eraser and know how to use them.

  11. Risk Assessment the Texas way….

    ** Due to our societal and legislative response to COVID19, Texas lost $75B dollars in areas with low risk from COVID, $40B dollars in medium risk areas, and $1B dollars in high risk areas.

    **Due to our societal and legislative response to COVID19, Texas closed 191 counties with low risk from COVID, 50 counties in medium risk areas, and 13 counties in high risk areas.

    As of May 5, this is what has happened. So let us take a look at some examples of low risk counties ( I will not list all 191 but will give a sample.)

    Low Risk

    Anderson County
    Population 57,741
    Covid cases 29 no deaths
    jobs lost 1,759
    economic impact $112,966,177

    Brewster County
    Population 9,337
    Covid Cases 0
    Jobs lost 684
    Economic impact $28,650,765

    Harris County
    Population 4,652,980
    Covid Cases 6161 w/109 deaths
    Jobs lost 240,517
    Economic impact $29,427,161,253

    Medium Risk

    Collin County
    Population 969,603
    Covid cases 692 w/19 deaths
    Jobs lost 45,083
    Economic impact $4,044,017,812

    McLennan County
    Population 251,259
    Covid Cases 87 w/4 deaths
    Jobs Lost 11,888
    Economic Impact $826,273,807

    Orange County
    Population 85,047
    Covid cases 70 w/1 death
    Jobs lost 2,332
    Economic impact $261,424,705

    High Risk

    Potter County
    Population 120,458
    Covid Cases 430 w/6 deaths
    Jobs Lost 6,410
    Economic impact $577,162,831

    Washington County
    Population 35,043
    Covid cases 140 w/14 deaths
    Jobs lost 1,386
    Economic impact $100,755,645

    Matagorda County
    Population 36,840
    Covid Cases 60 w/3 deaths
    Jobs lost 958
    Economic Impact $109,671,559

    _____________________________

    The point being is that your formula for the risks basis economic impact, type of jobs, and population must take into effect many relevant factors. Texas has done this with its gurus….Right or wrong, I see nothing wrong with assessment on the basis of risk.

    When you have a state that loses 75 billion in low risk counties vs losing only 1 billion in high risk counties…..it seems to me that the logical decision rests with risk assessment based on local areas and not using a one size fits all litmus test that comes from cities and states not even associated in the same way.

    Jus’ sayin’….

  12. Mathius says:

    Gman,

    Remember when Trump asked, “who knew health care could be so complicated”? That’s what happens when someone who knows a little bit and thinks he must have all the answers encounters the fact of real-world complexity.

    That is what happened when Trump got nudged off the “Mt. Stupid” peak of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

    Once you learn a bit more about a complex topic, you stop having such certainty and know-it-all attitudes.

    • Once you learn a bit more about a complex topic, you stop having such certainty and know-it-all attitudes.

      • You should take your own advice young guppy. I’m formally trained in all levels of PPE, mass decontamination for biological and chemical incidents, and served as the Decon Safety Officer at the hospital I worked for, not to mention all the military training on the subject, which was extensive.

        This is just a version of the common cold that no one has immunity too. How to keep from getting it…PPE and clean hands, don’t touch face. It’s simple logic that wearing a mask greatly reduces spreading and catching these types of virus. That’s why hospital workers wear them (gee, I bet your shocked at that one). Unfortunately, politicians and those elected to provide good guidance failed miserably, and New York tops the list.

  13. Mathius, statics often produced by experts are frequently inaccurate. Example, the Challenger failure. The engineers and NASA execs went though the probability of solid fuel rocket booster failure by looking at the potential failure rate of each component. The resulting predicted failure was small, hence the decision to launch. When Prof. Feynman investigated he asked a simple question. In the history of solid fuel rockets, what is the failure rate. Ans: 1 in 30. This was the 58th shuttle launch. Next he was warned about o-ring failure in cold weather. When the engineers at M-T were asked about launching below 32degF, they balked and said we have no evidence. That was ignored. Feynman proved with a simple glass of ice water and a c-clamp that o-rings lose their flexibility at 32F.

    Not long after this, I sat in a meeting at Exxon discussing the potential failure rate of HF alkylation plants. HF is an extremely toxic gas that eats your bones and leaves you a pile of protoplasm. A Marathon plant in TX had a leak. The plume of HF shot vertically in air, went over the neighboring AMOCO plant and proceeded to enter the town. It etched glass 1 mile away so the plume was concentrated. In this meeting I listened to one engineer after another give the probability of valves and flanges failing. The probabilities were as small <0.01%. When added up, this left a very small probability of failure. I asked what caused the failure at Marathon. A crane operator dropped a beam on a 6" pipe, a totally random unexpected event.

    All of this occurred in the same time period as the Bohpal, India CH3NC accident which killed about 1K people. This accident resulted in Union Carbide shrinking by 60% and eventually being bought by DOW. Had the accident happened in a populated western city, UC would have been a total loss. HF plants have the same potential. There are several in the US.

    Sometimes it is very instructive to just look at the big picture and stay out of the weeds. I have asked before and you have not answered. If there is no vaccine, then what is going to stop this virus from moving through the entire population until herd immunity is sufficient to insulate us from it? If it is inevitable, then all we are doing is slowing the pace not reducing the number of deaths. So currently our solution is to reduce the rate of deaths by destroying the economy which also has repercussions. The problem is not univariant. We must juggle the Covid deaths with all other risks including economic collapse.

    • T Ray……..why? OHHHH Why….do you insist on using logic. You do realize that using simple logic makes people’s heads explode?

    • JAC ,

      Is their ability to declare an emergency unconstitutional?

      • I swear the page moves by itsself. This is obviously in the wrong place.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        V.H.

        They can DECLARE anything they like. But they CAN NOT do anything they like.

        Under the original, aka PRE PROGRESSIVE era, the Fed Govt had ZERO role in dealing with emergencies, unless there were soldiers barracked in the area. Remember, the great San Fran earthquake and fire was initially a private response along with the State/Local folks.

        Someone please point to the Clause that allows Congress to spend money on emergency response or even worse, paying money to the States to cover their costs.

        Of course the Constitution is dead so my whining is moot.

    • Mathius says:

      T-Ray,

      I appreciate what you just wrote. I do.

      Mathius, statics often produced by experts are frequently inaccurate.

      Of course they are!

      Statistics are just “the likeliest answer we have right now.”

      They are ODDS, not prophesy. Best guesses, really.

      What I’m trying to get at, though, is that, in the contest between the opinions of lay people and experts, the opinions of the two groups are not equal. And that the Average Joe does not become a world-leading expert in a month. And, even if he could, which he can’t, he doesn’t have access to all the information and resources to make an informed opinion.

      What I’m trying to get at is that we aren’t qualified – CAN’T be qualified – to know better than the experts. And that doesn’t make them right and that doesn’t make us wrong. But we aren’t equal. And for a layperson to assert with such confidence that they know better.. that’s sheer hubris.

      Not long after this, I sat in a meeting at Exxon discussing the potential failure rate of HF alkylation plants.

      Here’s my rule of thumb. If I see an “F” in the chemical formula, I put it down and take a careful step backward. Then I work out if it’s boom kind of fluorine or the tooth-hardening kind of fluoride.

      When Prof. Feynman investigated he asked a simple question. In the history of solid fuel rockets, what is the failure rate. Ans: 1 in 30. This was the 58th shuttle launch. Next he was warned about o-ring failure in cold weather. When the engineers at M-T were asked about launching below 32degF, they balked and said we have no evidence. That was ignored. Feynman proved with a simple glass of ice water and a c-clamp that o-rings lose their flexibility at 32F.

      Not to take away from any of that, but I want to quote what I wrote yesterday:

      The point isn’t that “you’re wrong.” I’m not saying you are. What I’m saying is that neither of us is qualified to answer this question just as neither of us is qualified to tell NASA how to put a satellite in orbit.

      […]

      It’s not to say “they’re definitely right and we’re definitely wrong,” but that, in the face of such an unbalanced level of expertise, if we have a disagreement, the likelihood is that they’re right and I’m wrong.

      Your example of Feinman is very much NOT what I’m getting at here.. he was a brilliant, highly educated physicist. For him to weigh in on the elasticity of O-rings in sub-freezing temperatures is not much of a stretch. Maybe it wasn’t his exact specialty, but he was in the right zip code with the right training, information, and an absolutely brilliant mind to boot.

      It’s not like some random person off the sidewalk who watched a youtube video one time that her friend Karen shared on Facebook and now considers her opinion equal to that of a NASA scientist.

      Imagine a “normal person” you know – let’s call him Bob – watching a youtube video and then barging into NASA to explain to the engineers the correct way to build a rocket engine. That’s what’s happening here. Maybe – MAYBE – Bob’s right – I don’t know – but if I had to guess, I’m going to say the thousands of people who got PhD’s in the topic, spent decades working in the field, and who have access to the expertise of all those other people and all the salient information, etc.. I’d guess that if they say X and Bob says Y, that it’s probably – but not definitely – Bob whose wrong.

      So when I see the CDC and the WHO and and and make a recommendation of X and then I see a layperson barge onto the internet and proclaim that “it’s a new day!” and that X is wrong and Y is correct, well…… maybe they’re right….. maybe it’s neither…. but if I had to guess, I’m going to side with the pros.

      If you and I have a disagreement about firearms, I might be right and you might be wrong…. but, realllly…. the smart money is on you. Why? Because you know a fuck-ton more than me about the topic and have spent years learning about it and I am just some idiot who fired a rifle a few times at camp when he was a kid and how has access to google. Our opinions on the topic are not of equal value.

      The broader point I was making is that Gman is NOT equal to, say, Fauci in terms of matters of pandemics. They just aren’t equal. Their opinions are not equal.

      Gman COULD, certainly, be right were Fauci is wrong. Especially with this much uncertainty in the system. But the DEFAULT assumption should be that the experts are “more likely” to be right than the layperson on complicated matters such as this.

      So currently our solution is to reduce the rate of deaths by destroying the economy which also has repercussions. The problem is not univariant. We must juggle the Covid deaths with all other risks including economic collapse.

      Absolutely.

      This is a HUGE and COMPLEX question involving expertise and information that Gman just cannot possibly have. That doesn’t make Fauci et al right. That doesn’t make Gman wrong. But, for Gman (and others) to stand up and say “I know better than the experts” when that’s just not possible… well… that’s insanity.

      So if the experts are saying X, I’m going to assume that X is probably the best available answer at the time is was given.

      And if they change from X to Y later on.. that doesn’t necessarily mean they were “wrong.” They might have been. But it also might mean that more information has come along since then, or the situation has changed. And that the ability and willingness to change positions with new information or new arguments, etc, is the hallmark of professionalism and intelligence and a further credit to those experts, not a sign of failure such that we shoudl hold it against them and say “see! They said X and now they said Y, so clearly they’re idiots!” Because that’s not how science works.

      I have asked before and you have not answered. If there is no vaccine, then what is going to stop this virus from moving through the entire population until herd immunity is sufficient to insulate us from it? If it is inevitable, then all we are doing is slowing the pace not reducing the number of deaths.

      If there is no vaccine, then all we can do is slow it down.

      Reports are conflicting, of course – yet another reason Gman and I are unsuited to make determinations of policy – but it seems that New York hospitals are absolutely drowning in COVID. That there are still massive shortages of PPE and testing.

      That said, that certainly is not everywhere else. But, as NY almost certainly was amongst the first and most dense cities in America to get it, the rest of you might not be far behind if you all return to business as usual. But what do I know? I’m no expert.

      To answer your question, I think the supply lines have not quite caught up. We aren’t prepared for a second wave at this time. There is a lack of testing, which is a bigger problem than might seem evident at first blush.

      I think we’re just buying ourselves some more time before we, as Americans, lose our attention span and simply shrug and accept thousands of people dying every day as an acceptable cost in order to get a haircut. It does amaze me the absolute sheer riotous win-at-any-cost vengeance that so many people had after 9/11, but now, with comparable numbers dying daily in hospitals, somehow it’s no longer worth it to sacrifice… Just.. seems odd, is all.

      The other thing I’d add is that a lot of treatments have been developed and crash-tested over the last several months. We have come a looooooong way from where we were when this first showed up. The longer we can drag out the infection – though I agree, it will go through almost everyone eventually without a vaccine – the longer we can drag it out, though, the better the treatment and the higher the survival will probably for the people who do catch it.

      Just ask yourself this: if you had to contract it, would you rather do so in January or now or six months from now?

      • Just A Citizen says:

        EXPERTS have killed millions of people more than stupid people have killed.

        • Mathius says:

          Experts have also saved billions of people more than stupid people have.

          Almost everything that makes modern society possible was made possible by experts of some sort or another.

          Experts work with higher stakes than stupid people. If an expert is wrong, people might die. If a stupid person is wrong, A4 on the vending machine might return improper change.

          But if an expert is right, farm yields multiply, vaccines exist, iphones let you post nonsense to SUFA from the bathroom (no comment!), airplanes carry passengers safely above the clouds, man sets foot on the moon, and so on.

          It’s not to say – again – that experts are always right – they aren’t. They ARE NOT.

          But just to reject expert advice as an automatic gainsaying of their educated and informed opinions because “experts have killed people” is absurd. Nor is this grounds for implying that uninformed opinions are therefore somehow superior or more trustworthy.

          All I’m saying is that: when a non-expert and an expert disagree, it’s probably the expert who is right.

          Honestly, I don’t understand how that can possibly be a controversial opinion.

  14. https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/06/homeless-people-san-francisco-hotel-rooms-given-free-alcohol-and-drugs/

    Wow, I’m assuming this is the only way they can get them to stay, but just wow.

  15. Just A Citizen says:

    Guess it is time to remind the SUFA audience. It is NOT the Govt’s job to assure, insure or attempt to secure your safety.

    Isolation orders to prevent spread of a disease which MIGHT make you sick is a VIOLATION of basic Rights. PERIOD.

  16. U.S.—A new CNN poll found that 97% of Democrats would have supported a Ted Bundy presidential run if the serial killer and rapist had run against Trump.

    The poll confirmed that most Democrats would totally support a serial rapist as long as it meant beating Trump.
    “Sure, he was a vicious, brutal rapist, but we have to get Trump out of the White House,” said feminist attorney Lisa Bloom. “I believe Bundy’s victims. We still have to stop Trump, so I’ll support any rapist the DNC nominates. But I believe the victims. And I’m sorry.”
    People pointed out that Trump is bad and so that anybody who runs against him is good. “Bill Cosby, Kevin Spacey, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein — I’d vote for any of these guys in a heartbeat over the bad orange man,” said Alyssa Milano. “You would vote for Bundy, right? #MeToo.”
    “Vote blue no matter who.”
    A very small minority of Democrats said they would not vote for Ted Bundy, but these people are dumb because they don’t realize that only two parties can participate according to the Constitution, and if you don’t vote for one bad candidate you’re basically voting for the other one.

  17. It appears that all those selfless healthcare workers who went to New York from out of State to help with the virus will be getting a tax bill from Cuomo. I have a feeling that the next major health issue will leave them on their own.

    Then there is this gem of a moment. https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2020/05/06/mic-drop-kayleigh-mcenany-scorches-media-early-coronavirus-stories

  18. From today’s local Fox News channel in Dallas/Ft.Worth:

    “The Texas Supreme Court has ordered the release of a Dallas salon owner.

    The order came moments after Texas Gov. Greg Abbott issued a change to his executive orders related to COVID-19, eliminating confinement as a punishment for violating the orders.

    The governor mentioned Dallas salon owner Shelley Luther by name when issuing the change. He said it supersedes local orders and should be applied retroactively to April 2.”

    Though not in this same article, apparently Texas AG Paxton personally paid her fine…I can’t back that fact up, but it was reported on local radio news.

    Also, reported on the radio is that two videos of the judge Moyé who sentenced her are circulating online, though I haven’t seen them. IF what I’ve heard, again on the radio, are true, he’s someone to avoid anyway. Both involve him becoming violent, or threatening it. One is of him getting out of his car and brandishing a gun (their words) after being angry at a tailgater. Really? A tailgater?? That’s worth getting out a gun….only if you’re someone the MSM won’t report on.

    In other news on the salon owner Shelly Luther, a GoFundMe account was set up (not by her) to help cover her legal costs and (presumably when it was set up) her fines. By yesterday morning it was over 200K, by afternoon over 300K, and this morning over 500k.

    Think Texans are behind this lady? 😎

    Murf

    • Great News!!!! I didn’t like this whole thing. First, nobody should ever face prison based on an Executive Order…EVER. These are not legitimate laws and the idiot Judge should know better. One thing for sure, if this woman was a Democrat, she isn’t anymore.

  19. WASHINGTON, D.C.—When the lockdowns started and stay-at-home orders were issued, the Bill of Rights was taken out of the National Archives and put somewhere for safekeeping since it wasn’t really needed at the time and no one wanted it to get damaged. Now that states are starting to open things up again, no one can seem to find it.

    “It’s probably under a couch or something,” said President Trump. “We’ll find it eventually.”
    The Bill of Rights, by listing certain rights, placed limits on how the government could order people around and arbitrarily tell them what to do. Everyone agreed it was in the way during a pandemic, but the hope was to eventually pull out the Bill of Rights when things got better. Now that it has been lost, many are unsure what to do, though some think we can make do without it.
    “I think most of us remember what was in it,” said Senator Bernie Sanders. “There was stuff about health care and not letting anyone have way more money than you.”
    If you think you’ve seen the Bill of Rights, there is a number you can call — though at the other end of the number is just a recorded message reminding you to stay at home.

  20. NEW YORK—A massive Asian Murder Hornet was named President of Planned Parenthood today. The move came after Planned Parenthood realized the killer insect had the exact qualities they’d been seeking to take the company in the right direction. Namely, lots of murder.

    The Murder Hornet entered Planned Parenthood Headquarters around 10 a.m. yesterday “just looking for an entry level job,” according to sources. But when leadership caught wind of the murderous hornet’s employment interest, they jumped at the opportunity.
    “It was a sign from our Mother Spirit Margaret Sanger,” explained former President Alexis McGill Johnson. “So I called the Murder Hornet up to my office right away. She actually took the time to murder all six people in the elevator on the way up. A real go-getter. I had no choice but to step down immediately and name her the new president.”
    The Murder Hornet got right to work, outlining her basic murdering method, and hiring on more Murder Hornets by the hundreds of thousands. All females of course.
    It was late in the day, however, when things took a turn for the worst. The new President of Planned Parenthood caught wind of a controversial statement made by former President Alexis McGill Johnson about a week ago. Apparently Johnson had mentioned that Joe Biden, a Democrat, should address sexual assault allegations made against him, a Democrat. These kinds of statements would not fly under the new leadership.
    “Let’s just say Alexis is no longer with us,” said one of the few remaining non-insect staff members.

  21. Canine Weapon says:

    Well, you bunch of gun-toting deplorables… here’s a link for you to peruse… hope you enjoy!

    https://imgur.com/gallery/E1FgS2N

    • I actually like the knife with the scope.

      • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

        Y’AARGH!!!

        • I want one.

          • The Dread Pirate Mathius says:

            I’ve named ‘er Betty, and ye can have ‘er if ye can best me in single combat.

            • Nah….if I beat ye in single open combat, which be likely, ’cause I hornswaggle ‘n I hornswaggle heavily in me favor, ‘n ye were suddenly scuttled from SUFA, scallywags would be mad at me. Especially Gman….’n then ye would ‘ave died afore G scallywag. I shall ‘ave t’ find another way. Besides, we like th’ Hammer patrollin’ th’ inter-coastal waterways down here. I reckon th’ blade would look better on an M13 light machine gun.

              • Besides, yer weapon shows only 5 reloads which means thar be 5 in th’ magazine…..soooooo….. th’ M13 holds 200 rounds ‘n shoots a might further than Betty but I like Betty……she would be comfortin’ in a close environment. I reckon th’ two would compliment each other. So, I shall name mine “Bonny” aft Anne Bonny o’ yesteryear. Now, that would be a pair t’ sail th’ seas.

  22. Justice Department DROPS Flynn case.

    • About time. Hopefully this is just the first domino. So will the MSM and never Trumpers that smeared Flynn eat crow now?

    • The announcement came in a court filing “after a considered review of all the facts and circumstances of this case, including newly discovered and disclosed information,” as the department put it. DOJ officials said they concluded that Flynn’s interview by the FBI was “untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn” and that the interview was “conducted without any legitimate investigative basis.”

      The federal judge overseeing the case would have to make the final determination to dismiss it.

      • Pelosi: “Overruling the Special Counsel is without precedent and without respect for the rule of law.”

        T-Ray: I did not know that Mueller was the judge.

        Harris: “The fact that in America today, we have so many hungry people and that this is our crisis is unconscionable, and it requires all leaders to step up and focus on what is important today. It’s not letting somebody like Flynn off who pled guilty because he is guilty. It’s about having people in a position of leadership who are addressing the needs of people who are suffering in America today. The coincidence that this happened that the Department of Justice does this on the same day that the most recent unemployment numbers come out, on the same day that we have a report that one in five mothers is explaining that their children are hungry, talk about misplaced priorities. It is about an abject failure of leadership, abandonment of leadership when the American people need their government the most.”

        T-Ray: What does the artificial economic crisis have to do with correcting an injustice?

  23. A fun kind of post from the G-Man house. Last night, got up to use the restroom and looked out at the deer feeder to find a HUGE black bear laying underneath it enjoying an evening meal. Watched if for awhile, it got up (freaking huge) and walked about 15 yards, laid down and took a nap. 30 minutes later, went back to eat some more. The outside spotlights were on the whole time and the feeder is only 60 feet from the house, so the view was clear and lit up. The event lasted about 90 minutes before he waddled off. When he sniffed up at the feeder, he exposed a small white patch on his chest. He has been dubbed Patches. Estimated weight is 400+ lbs as his head was wider that the 5 gallon bucket that holds the corn. Quite a beautiful animal and did I mention it was freaking huge? 😀

  24. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    More appropriate in the Democratic Peeples Republik of New Jersey every day!

  25. WASHINGTON, D.C.—President Trump today announced that “out of an abundance of caution” all reporters present at White House press briefings must wear MAGA masks. All who entered the briefing area were asked to remove any personal masks and to instead don one of the new red masks with “Make America Great Again” embroidered into the fabric.
    “These are the best masks, everyone agrees. Really spectacular. They have sunlight, UV rays, disinfectant. Good stuff. They smell great too. Really, really good stuff. The best,” Trump explained.
    Many reporters complained that the masks were “too insulated” and “made it impossible to comment or ask questions.” President Trump said this issue did not concern him at this time.

  26. It appears that the whole Russian Collusion stuff has been totally crushed as nothing more than LIES. The Lies pushed by the Crats and the liberal media for years, plus the tens of millions wasted investigating this hoax, is nothing short of treason. The Crat politicians will get reelected, showing the world once and for all that Liberals are morally and ethically bankrupt.

    If there isn’t any proper justice handed out, whatever the charges may be, then the Republic is lost and will only fail over time. Our kids and Grandkids should study up on Venezuela, because that is their future as long as Liberals have political power.

    Rant over!

  27. People have been quarantined too long now. This is on Google:

    When was running invented?

    1748

    Running was invented in 1748 by Thomas Running when he tried to walk twice at the same time.

    I’m sorry. What?

    • Take it from an old combat vet……………………….Running was invented when the first rock was thrown…..I have perfected the art of running. There were many times in combat when I heard the same bullet twice….once when it passed by my ear and once when I passed it.

  28. I just know that a lot of you wanted to know this…so here it is.

    On this day in 1846, the battle of Palo Alto, the first major engagement of the Mexican War, was fought. At the site north of Brownsville, American forces under Gen. Zachary Taylor clashed with Mexican troops commanded by Gen. Mariano Arista. The battle, which began about 2:00 P.M. and lasted until twilight, resulted in a standoff. After darkness ended the action, both armies bivouacked on the battlefield. Of 3,461 troops that formed the Mexican Army of the North, Arista’s commissary reported 102 killed, 129 wounded, and 26 missing, including deserters. The American army, which totaled over 2,200 soldiers, reported five dead and forty-three wounded. The Mexican army was decisively defeated the following day at the battle of Resaca de la Palma.
    ———————————————–

    Now, you have had your culture of the day, you may go back to your regularly scheduled lives.

    • In the Midwest, there are several towns named for battles in the Mexican-American War.

  29. Mathius says:

    2001:
    Mathius: Look, this is terrible, but we really need to keep some perspective here.
    Conservatives: Death the enemies America. Destroy them at any cost. Sacrifice all civil liberties to security. Victory at any cost! Torture prisoners! No price is too great, no sacrifice too much! Anyone who says otherwise is giving aid and comfort to the t’rrists! Questioning the President is unpatriotic!

    2020:
    Mathius: Look, this is pretty bad.. it’s roughly a 9/11 every day… maybe we should just listen to the medical experts…?
    Conservatives: bUt I nEeD a HaIrCuT!! O _ o

    • Mathius says: Listen to the medical experts. One size fits all. Close that golf course because fresh air and sunshine and walking is hazardous….those Covid bugs will get you in all that fresh air.
      Close those beaches because the sunshine and fresh air and salt water breeds Covid bugs. Shut everything down regardless of the cost and the fact that some areas just do not need it. Tell the people what to do. They are too stupid to keep distance…..don’t give the people a choice. We must control……we are one…we are one….we are one.

      Sigh…..This is why I posted the stats from Texas as of May 5…..90 percent of Texas was low risk and the low risk areas comprised the bulk of the economic loss and jobs loss. Even Dallas was not high risk…..it was medium risk. Now, we will not know how the Texas model works until the next pandemic because we did overkill…..we sprayed an entire yard with roundup when only three weeds needed it.

      However, we, collectively, always seem to throw the baby out with the bath water. Have we inadvertently created a “Chicken Little” syndrome? The next time, and as sir Mathius indicated that there will be a next time, that there is a pandemic….will people listen to it? I do not think so.

      • Resistance is futile, we are the Borg.

      • Mathius says:

        One size fits all. Close that golf course

        I’m pretty sure I didn’t say this……….

        However, we, collectively, always seem to throw the baby out with the bath water.

        Yup.

        Please of Mathius’ First Law: People. Are. Dumb.

        Have we inadvertently created a “Chicken Little” syndrome?

        Maaayyyyybbbbbeeeee…..

        Maybe.

        Part of the problem, as you acknowledge below, is that we may never know for sure whether we overreacted or whether our strong reaction is the reason why this feels overblown.

        I posted something to that effect here just the other day and seem to recall people ridiculing it. But it’s definitely true… if we DID do a good job, a necessary job, by closing the country down, and then avoided what “would have been” a nightmare scenario otherwise… then that would surely feel like an overreaction if it weren’t.

        That is.. Chicken Little was a huge dramatic reaction to nothing. This is a huge dramatic reaction.. but I can’t say (no one can) whether it was to “nothing” or whether the downside scenarios were simply avoided.

        The next time, and as sir Mathius indicated that there will be a next time,

        There absolutely will be.

        The world is only getting more and more interconnected and more populated.

        Tick tock, tick tock..

        that there is a pandemic….will people listen to it? I do not think so.

        I agree.

        We’ll probably do something stupid like deny it for a month, insisting that it’s only present in some other country and that we don’t have to worry about it because it’s only a handful of cases here and soon it’ll be none and we don’t have to worrry about anything and then we’ll do something stupid like say not to worry about it because it’ll just disappear on its own as if by a miracle, all the while doing almost nothing to ramp up stocks of PPE or testing such that, when people do start dying by the thousands, the whole thing’ll be so politicized that morons will go around protesting rules against masks and then when the government tries to implement social distancing in the face of vastly inadequate testing the people will have no patience for it because their other leaders told them it would be over almost immediately and, anyway, it’s just no worse than the flu.

        Or something like that.

        that there is a pandemic….will people listen to it? I do not think so.

        Fun fact: People. Are. Dumb.

  30. Mathius says:

    A while back – feels like a decade – Cuomo said he needed 30,000 ventilators to be able to cope with a down-side scenario.

    This was backed up by Dr. Fauci who said “there are a lot of different calculations. In my experience, I tend to believe Governor Cuomo.”

    Jared Kushner said: “I have all this data about I.C.U. capacity. I’m doing my own projections, and I’ve gotten a lot smarter about this. New York doesn’t need all the ventilators.”

    Reminder: Jared Kushner is not a doctor, epidemiologist, statistician, economist, policy expert, or mathematician.

    It is baffling to me how someone can have such supreme arrogance and confidence in their own superiority in topics they are not even close to being experts in. And then to directly refute a world-class expert because ‘I did my own projections” as if he knows his ass from a hole in the ground by comparison.

    • Then you have the opposite…..Here. we listened to the experts…..the sky is falling..you better prepare for it. Texas activates the National Guard. Established and staffed 5 mobile hospitals in 5 cities to prepare for the predicted and inevitable overflow of the local hospitals. We were ready with 5,000 extra beds with complete sanitation and medical safeguards and respirators and equipment. Our medical staff are experts in trauma cases so we proposed sending all trauma cases to the military hospitals to relieve the local hospitals to be ready and staff for this horrible pandemic that was going to paralyze the world. We had 40 ambulances stained within the 5 cities to relieve the local first responder’s to handle the Covid onslaught. It never came.

      Was there overkill? We will never know because we have not tested the alternative yet but I am betting we will the next time around.

      Dallas never passed 64% occupancy including trauma cases. Houston never passed 58% occupancy including trauma San Antonio never passed 55% occupancy including trauma.

      So, I ask you….where do you draw the line? Did we over react? Some will say yes and some will say no….who is correct?

      • I did forget to mention….those 5,000 beds had not one single patient….not one.

      • I find it odd that the plan was to flatten the curve so we would be prepared for the second wave. So, if all the experts believe the second wave is gonna be so bad, why are they shutting down all the extra hospital spaces that were created?

        • Good question. We shut down and dismantled because we were just sitting around playing internet games….not one single call or patient in the 12 days we were set up…..nada. So we had 2200 active guard men and women…just sitting. The Governor talked to all the mayors and no one wanted the extra beds…the order to stand down was given. We set up in 48 hours, we broke it down in 18 hours.

    • Whats more baffling to me is how you can’t catch the disease in a big box store but the minute you walk into a mom and pop, you’re doomed. 🙄

      • yes, there was no continuity. Walmart sold food…therefore it was a necessity. BUT..you could buy clothes and shoes and camping equipment at the same time. But you could not go to a clothing store in a mall.

    • So who was right? Overall NY has had 337K cases w/26K deaths. The best info I could find is that the state has about 25K vents since they asked for 20% to be freed up for sending elsewhere. They freed up 500. Now the hospitals will keep some in reserve. So it appears that NY did not need 30K vents. You still are thinking univariantly.

    • What baffles me is why you consider the governor to be, almost an expert? And why you seem to dismiss the obvious problem that any medical expert or governor of a single state would almost always be, overly cautious.

    • What’s hilarious about your post Mathius, is that Kushner was right and Cuomo and Fauci were wrong. Not that it would have mattered, 30K ventilators were not available to be had. Cuomo failed New York, miserably.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      It is referred to as “common sense”.

      We are, by listening to experts, being stuck with several hundred thousand expensive new ventilators which will, in a decade or so, have their seals dry out and be useless. I do NOT even want to guess the number of protective masks. I understand that when they went to that big US government warehouse in Arizona (the one where the UFO’;s and Ark of the Covenant are stashed) they found the 1918 masks in storage had either disintegrated or been used by mice for nests.

  31. Meanwhile, off the cost of Taiwan, a Chinese troop ship arrives, 10 days ago, and joins the Chinese carrier group……with our two carrier groups for that region out of service, the Chinese are saying…hmmmmmm.

    Suddenly, without warning or fanfare, two ( count em ) nuclear subs are suddenly within the Taiwan Straits and the US now has access to Taiping. A bomb wing and F18 wing has been moved to Tainan Air Force Base.

    Very quietly done and with no fanfare. The Chinese troop ship is leaving the area as well as the carrier group. Where is the media on this?

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Can’t we accidentally sink something?

      Reading a piece the other day on how un-neutral the Swiss were in WW 2. When crippled US bombers ventured into Swiss airspace they were shot down as often as allowed to land and be interred. Meanwhile German pilots were treated royally. So, occasionally, due to navigational errors, unused bomb loads were “accidentally:” dumped on some border towns in the Swiss alps.

  32. The following is a general guideline on a house bill currently in negotiations.

    Overall Guiding Principles: We believe that all of our aid must be guided by three guiding principles. First, ensure everyone, regardless of tax or immigration status, age or disability status, is eligible for robust assistance. All assistance must also ensure parity for tribal and U.S. territorial residents and the District of Columbia. Second, ensure that the assistance we provide lasts the length of the crisis by having automatic triggers so that the assistance continues based on economic conditions throughout the duration of the pandemic. Thirdly, ensure every action Congress takes addresses inequality and strengthens racial equity and economic equality.

    Read this and think about it. Then read the very last sentence. Interpret that. Be interesting to see the differences in interpretation. There is more, but let’s start with this.

    • “regardless of tax or immigration status, age, or disability” — this would imply that the rich, illegal immigrants, retirees on fixed incomes, et. al. will get assistance whether they need it or not. So far I have not seen anything.

      “assistance … lasts the length of crisis by having automatic triggers” — We do not want to vote on this again so we will make it perpetual. As long as the governors keep the economy closed, the fed purse is open. Let’s make everyone dependent on government aid.

      “addresses inequality and strengthens racial equity” — let’s continue the special status of blacks since they are perpetual victims in this society. That way we can buy their votes.

      • Thank you, TRay…YOU may now proceed to the next section

        Primary Areas of Assistance: Our actions now can lay the foundation for a just and resilient recovery, but only if we recognize the scale of this unprecedented crisis and fashion a response that meets that scale. We believe this next relief package must focus on four specific areas: preventing layoffs and protecting paychecks; providing immediate and direct relief to individuals and families; protecting public health; and ensuring election integrity.

        Pay particular attention to the last item.

        • preventing layoffs – too late. the best solution here is to let people go back to work. I think that if the economy is not opened by 5/15, everybody should just ignore the orders and go back to work.

          protecting paychecks — See above. The government is broke. There is no way they can replace paychecks. All they are doing is borrowing from future paychecks. How can you protect paychecks if the company you work for or own is bankrupt and out of business?

          providing immediate and direct relief to individuals and families — Isn’t this the same a protecting paychecks. Working people do not need relief.

          protecting public health — I take this as a code to continue the lock down until we can test everyone or we have a vaccine. We must be perfectly safe from this virus no matter how many people we bankrupt or kill by other means.

          ensuring election integrity — code words for how can we steal the next election

          • On the election thing. The Constitution leaves running the elections to the states. The Feds should not be dictating the means for accomplishing this.

  33. Mathius says:

    A SUFA Survey!

    Please rate yourself from 1 to 100 (100 being the best) on:
    NO GOING BACK AND CHANGING ANSWERS

    A) How knowledgable are you about “this whole Corona thing”?
    (1 = “it’s a cheap Mexican beer”.. 50 = “about as much as the average Joe”.. 100 = “I can recite the base code from memory, backward, in my sleep, and could cure it in 15 minutes if I wanted to”)

    B) How knowledgable were you about virology / epidemiology / etc as of ~6 months ago? (50 = about as much as the average American)

    C) How knowledgable are you compared to experts such as Dr. Fauci? (50 = “about the same”)

    D) Please rate Mathius on how knowledgable you believe he is on about “this whole Corona thing.”

    E) Please rate Mathius on how knowledgable you believe he was about virology / epidemiology / etc as of ~6 months ago.

    F) Please rate Mathius on how knowledgable he is compared to experts such as Dr. Fauci?

    • Mathius says:

      I’ll go first:

      A) 75 (“well-informed layperson”)
      B) 80 (“very well informed layperson”)
      C) 5 (“near-total ignorance”)
      D-F) See above

      • I warn you, that arm will break.

      • Mathius, were you an honor student at any time in your younger life?

        • Mathius says:

          Intermittently.

          I was a rather lazy student who relied on test scores to get away with doing the absolute minimum. I’d set the curve on the test and then get a D on an overdue essay because I half-assed it and end up with B, give or take.

          Many teachers over the years told me how sad / upset they were to give me such middling-to-poor grades when I clearly understood the topics and, oh, if only I’d applied myself. But younger Mathius didn’t really care about grades… learning, yes, and I had proven that I’d learned more, that was all I cared about… but grades… no. Younger Mathius didn’t understand the value of hard work. Not, really, until he got a real job after college when it sortof clicked.

          Anyway, 9th grade, I was honor roll, but to be honest, I have no idea how or why since I was still a lazy little shit who absolutely refused to do any homework.

          So, yes, at some points I was honor roll, I went to college on a scholarship (chosen from amongst 4-5 I was offered), but that was mostly based, I suspect, on my SAT scores, some glowing recommendations, and entrance essays rather than grades.

          I did… middling.. through college, ended up with a B-average, give or take. It was tough to find a job, and that sort of helped me realize how badly I’d been screwing myself over by being lazy and disinterested.

          A few years later, I went to grad school and decided to actually apply myself since, you know, I was taking the time to go, I might as well get the most out of it. Ended up with a 3.9, honor society, the works.

          Oh, to go back in time… I’d beat the shit out of 10 year old Mathius and drill the idea of hard work into his skull…. alas..

        • Mathius says:

          Here’s another piece of the puzzle as it relates to the above. Something I don’t think I’ve ever told anyone before.

          As a kid, I used to love the “funny pages” – still do, in fact. I read Calvin and Hobbes every single day before school.

          One day, I read this one:

          I remember it, still, absolutely crystalline, the memory of this just CLICKING into my brain.

          I didn’t know until just now, when I went to google that comic, but I was only 4 1/2 at the time. And my 4 1/2 year old brain didn’t always understand the funnies.

          But damn, did it make sense… everyone around me was asking so much out of me all the time and everything was so hard, and people were pushing me to read harder things and do harder math and learn this and learn that.. no sooner did I learn bit this than they’d move me on to that other bit… and here, Calvin just laid it out: if you do badly, they won’t expect more, and everything will be easy..

          I didn’t have the context to understand the real joke.. all I understood that was that he was absolutely right… every success I’d ever made to that point had only ever been rewarded with more work, harder challenges. So deliberately failing must have the opposite effect and make everything better.

          And that was the day my work ethic died – murdered by a simple comic strip.

          As I said, above, it wasn’t until after college that I managed to turn myself around from that single pivotal moment… probably the single most impactful moment of my entire life, to be honest.

          Crazy how life works some times.

      • Mathius says:
        May 8, 2020 at 1:53 pm (Edit)
        I’ll go first:
        A) 75 (“well-informed layperson”)
        B) 80 (“very well informed layperson”)
        C) 5 (“near-total ignorance”)
        D-F) See above

        A-F should all be near-total ignorance.

      • Hmmm, I was going to rate myself about what you did, but I would have rated myself higher than you since to my knowledge you don’t have any background in biology and my last job ( 17 years ago) was in a virology research lab.

        • Jennie, Please share your thoughts on the virus issue.

        • Mathius says:

          SECONDED!

          Please share your thoughts!

          • I’m not a virologist. I have a degree in biotechnology and worked in a virology research lab while my husband was in med school, and that was a long time ago, so I’m not really an expert, but I do love to read science news. Not sure what thoughts to share…
            WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!
            Just kidding. Well, actually, we are all going to die, just hopefully not real soon.

  34. Jan. 26: “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States,” Fauci says on The CATS Roundtable. “It isn’t something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about.”

    • Jan. 31: Trump issues the “Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus.” Later in the day, Biden campaigns in Iowa and tells the crowd that Americans “need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. … This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”
      Also in the wake of the ban on Jan. 31:
      An article in The New York Times quotes epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm as saying that Trump’s decision to restrict travel from China was “more of an emotional or political reaction.”
      The Washington Post runs a story quoting a Chinese official asking for “empathy” and slamming the White House for acting “in disregard of WHO recommendation against travel restrictions.”
      Vox tweets: “Is this going to be a deadly pandemic? No.” The tweet was deleted weeks later.
      Canada’s health minister Patty Hajdu, who would later say there was no reason to doubt Chinese coronavirus data, says the risk of the virus is “low” and that early-warning systems are working “exactly as they should.” The “spread of the disease is contained,” Hajdu claimed.
      Death counts indicated that 213 people had died and nearly 10,000 had been infected.
      February
      Feb. 2: “There’s a virus that has infected 15 million Americans across the country and

      • Feb. 2: “There’s a virus that has infected 15 million Americans across the country and killed more than 8,200 people this season alone,” CNN tweets. “It’s not a new pandemic — it’s influenza.”

        Meanwhile, New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot tweets: “As we gear up to celebrate the #LunarNewYear in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of #coronavirus.”

        • Feb. 7: Barbot strikes again, assuring residents, “We’re telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life.” City lawmakers have called for Barbot to be fired because of the comments.
          Feb. 9: Mark Levine, the chair of New York City Council health committee and a Democrat, tweets: “In powerful show of defiance of #coronavirus scare, huge crowds gathering in NYC’s Chinatown for ceremony ahead of annual #LunarNewYear parade. Chants of ‘be strong Wuhan!’ If you are staying away, you are missing out!”

          • Feb. 13: “There are ZERO confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York City, and hundreds of Chinese restaurants that need your business!” the New York City mayor’s office tweets. “There is nothing to fear. Stop by any Chinatown for lunch or dinner!”
            New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio adds: “It was my honor to spend time with our Asian-American owned small businesses in Flushing today. This vibrant community is standing strong but they need YOUR support. Our Chinatowns are open for business — make some dinner plans, do some shopping and stand with our neighbors!”
            Klain then praises de Blasio: “We don’t have a #COVIDー19 epidemic in the US but we are starting to see a fear epidemic. Kudos to @NYCMayor (and others) for standing against that.”

            • Feb. 17: Fauci announces that the risk of coronavirus infection in the U.S. is “miniscule,” according to USA Today. Fauci, one of the top experts in the field and a senior White House coronavirus adviser, also told the paper that people shouldn’t wear masks unless they are contagious. (By April 3, Fauci appeared to endorse national stay-at-home orders.)

              • Feb. 24: “It’s exciting to be here, especially at this time, to be able to be unified with our community,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., tells reporters as she visits San Francisco’s Chinatown. “We want to be vigilant about what is out there in other places. We want to be careful about how we deal with it, but we do want to say to people ‘Come to Chinatown, here we are — we’re, again, careful, safe — and come join us.’”
                Also on Feb. 24, the White House submits a request to Congress for $2.5 billion in supplemental spending to help combat the coronavirus outbreak. The request includes $1.25 billion in new money, with the rest coming from unspent funds. The budget request languishes in Congress, and the House of Representatives takes no action to bring it up for a vote.

  35. Mar. 2: “Since I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives + get out on the town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions,” de Blasio, the mayor of New York City, tweets. “Here’s the first: thru Thurs 3/5 go see ‘The Traitor’ @FilmLinc. If ‘The Wire’ was a true story + set in Italy, it would be this film.”

    Mar. 4: Barbot, the top New York City health official, declares, “There’s no indication that being in a car, being in the subways with someone who’s potentially sick is a risk factor.”

    On CNN, Anderson Cooper and Dr. Sanjay Gupta downplay the virus.
    “The flu right now is far deadlier,” Cooper says. “So if you’re freaked out at all about the coronavirus you should be more concerned about the flu, and you can actually do something about it, and get a flu shot.”
    “15,000 people roughly have already died of the flu this season,” Gupta responded. “Couple years ago, 60,000 people died of the flu.”

    • Mar. 9: At a Fox News town hall, Bernie Sanders says he would not close the border, even if it were necessary to halt the spread of coronavirus. He then attacked Trump’s “xenophobia.”
      Also on this day, Fauci remarks that going to campaign rallies may not be a bad idea:

      Mar. 11: Trump blocks most travel from continental Europe.
      Meanwhile, Trump declares a national emergency, authorizing $50 billion in federal funds to go to the states.

  36. I posted the above timeline to show how things played out and who knew what and when. It’s quite clear that the politicians in NYC blew it, miserably, likely causing the high death toll. The Liberal media was also no help to NYC.

    The ONLY positive moves to slow this mess was by Trump, period. He knew 10,000 times more than Mathius what should have been done and I would guess Trump wanted even more.

    Dr. Fauci should have done a better job, being that he is a so called expert. As I read through this timeline, I think that if HRC was President, the death toll would already be in the Hundreds of thousands.

    When I worked at a hospital in Ohio, as part of the Safety Committee and decon Safety officer, once this virus was determined to be contagious, we would have initiated enhanced PPE protocols. We also had a huge cache of PPE in storage.

    But it’s always easy to point out the mistakes. Looking at how this could have turned out, we were lucky. Soon, we’ll be back to screaming about politics….so let me begin with a super duper conspiracy theory that should be investigated (humor intended). Joe Biden and the Crats colluded with China to destroy the economy to help beat him in the next election. BWAHAHAHA!

  37. Officials in Ventura County, California will be expanding coronavirus testing, tracking the infected and those who they’ve been in contact with, and moving people out of their homes and into specialized housing for COVID-19 patients.
    Discussing the need to hire contact tracers and manage active cases, Ventura County Public Health Director Dr. Robert Levin said during a May 4 press conference that people who live in homes where they could expose family members to COVID-19 would be moved into ‘other kinds of housing’ provided by the county.
    “We also realize that as we find more contacts, some of the people we find are going to have trouble being isolated,” said Levin. “For instance, if they live in a home where there is only one bathroom and there are three or four other people living there, and those people don’t have COVID infection, we’re not going to be able to keep the person in that home. Every person who we’re isolating, for instance, needs to have their own bathroom. And so we’ll be moving people like this into other kinds of housing that we have available.”

    Taken from the actual video of announcement.

    • Since the test for Covid has a binary response, you only need 2 restrooms.

  38. Three Democratic senators introduced the Monthly Economic Crisis Support Act on Friday that would provide a $2,000 monthly check to every individual with an income below $120,000 throughout the pandemic and for three months once it concludes.

    Married couples who file jointly would receive $4,000. Families would get $2,000 per child up to three children.
    The payments would be retroactive to March. The legislation ensures that all individuals, including undocumented immigrants, the homeless and youth in foster homes, will get payments too.
    —————-

    You can tell it is an election year.

  39. Way to go New York……….you have health care volunteers that fly into your state on their own dime, stay in hotels on their own dime, and eat on their own dime……and now you want them to pay State income taxes on salaries earned………….and you are not going to reimburse them for expenses.

    Holy shit, Batman.

  40. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    My first knowledge of “contact tracing” was in 12th grade, health class when a NYC Sanitarian visited and talked to us about VD. He explained that should we be diagnosed, we would be treated of course but required, to divulge any and all sexual contacts under penalty of being arrested. Now, that folks, is “Public Health” and how you shut down a potential outbreak. I do NOT know if this policy survived the very first political STD, AIDS. Premarital blood tests did not.

    When 20 percent of the population has been exposed and are in turn exposing everybody else, that is a wee bit “too late” and akin to locking the barn door after the cow has been stolen.

    Contract tracing MAY be effective if and when this thing returns in the fall though with the ability to travel around the globe in a big aluminium tube in 24 hours or less, the days of contact tracing for a pandemic may well be over.

    • Contact tracing for STDs make sense since there is a definite point of transmission. It stopped with the AIDS epidemic because of political correctness although had the method been used, many lives would have been saved.

      For Covid, contact tracing is ridiculous. This is a disease that is spread by casual contact, aerosols, a hand swipe on a contaminated surface, etc. and does not become symptomatic for up to 2 weeks if ever. Without massive daily testing and electronic monitoring, there is no way contact tracing would be successful. But that is unfortunately the purpose. We will do something no matter the cost and whether it is effective but keep the population scared and locked down thus implementing all things come from government.

  41. WASHINGTON, DC—Campaign aides are comforting presidential candidate Joe Biden today at his bedside after he received devastating news. According to sources close to the US. Constitution, the law of the land requires any pick for VP to be at least 35 years old.

    “I thought we could get someone younger!” sobbed Uncle Joe as he ate his applesauce. “Someone with a nice set of legs and a scented perfume like the ones all the young dames wear. When I promised a female VP, that’s what I had in mind!”
    Campaign workers then brought a makeup covered young lady named Hillariana Clintonona before Biden as a possible candidate. “She’s a French model!” said the campaign manager. “She’s way less than 35 and she’ll make a great vice president!
    “Hubba hubba!” Biden responded. Just my type! Come over here, sweetheart!”
    Biden barely completed his sentence before falling asleep to the sounds of ‘Murder, She Wrote’ on the television.

  42. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    Happy Mothers Day ladies!

    • Indeed! Without being able to go out to dinner, my Mom wanted Walleye and Mac salad with a side of baked beans. Granted!!!!

      Happy Mother’s Day!!

  43. A note to the dog and the horse. Wish your master a Happy Birthday!!!

  44. https://www.westernjournal.com/security-footage-arbery-case-leaks-2-new-videos-back-original-911-call/

    The two white guys will go to jail, and rightfully so. That’s not the story I’m concerned about. What is the media doing other than pushing their everyone is a racist narrative (except Liberals). I’ll bet that they push this throughout and push it hard, nothing like a good riot to add to the narrative. What is a better way to show how oppressed blacks are than to show them looting and burning their neighborhoods down. The L.A riots in 1992 are a good example.

  45. Mathius says:

    An update on my cousin: Up and basically fully recovered. Not allowed to wander the streets, however, as they are unclear about re-infection rates. So, back into isolation with her.

    Interestingly, though, it emerged that [someone, unclear, who she was in contact with] works extensively with Chinese immigrants – that person got a “nasty flu” in January and was down for a week with trouble breathing and a terrible cough.

    I don’t think there’s anything to this since the incubation timeline for a person-to-person infection would have to be far longer than is being reported.. but, unlike Jennie, I’m not a virologist, so what do I know..? Still.. interesting.

    ———–

    An update on my other cousin: totally fine. Haven’t heard about anyone else in his immediate family getting sick.

    ———-

    An update on my brother-in-law: totally fine. Immediate family is fine.

    —————————————

    So, so far, the Mathius-clan is 3:0 against the ‘rona!

    Probably higher since some of those family members probably got it asymptomatically.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Gettin a bit old though……Celebrated Mother’s Day by having five grandkids sit in their cars in the driveway, talking through open windows to us. Really sucks with a capital K.

      The wunderkind, my eldest, the lawyer with the MS in Public Health, former Homeland Security, current VA, Current Army Medical Corps is of the opinion that if Georgia, Florida and Colorado flatline, the quarantine is essentially over. I was a bit surprised at his prediction since generally he is quite conservative on health issues.

      • Mathius says:

        I would assume you had a bigger conversation with him, but I interpret “the quarantine is essentially over” to be generally correct in the sense that people (and governors and President) are giving up on it.. but that doesn’t necessarily reflect on whether it should be over.

        I thought people in NY would (mostly) make it to the start of the new school read before deciding – irrespective of any relevant facts – that they’d just had enough of this bullshit and were done with quarantine, let the chips fall for they may. Now I’m getting conflicting information – basically two factions – one saying “fuck it” and trying to open up during summer because the weather is turning nice and it sucks to stay inside. The other thinking that schools won’t even re-open in September. I tend to think the former will win since half a quarantine is like being half-pregnant. Interestingly, the divide doesn’t really seem to correlate to politics – it’s not “Trumpists want to ‘liberate’ NY immediately” or anything like that.. it’s just some people have hit their limit and some people are being very cautious.

        I haven’t conducted a study, but I’d be willing to bet that the more access you have to a yard and a pool and financial security, the more likely you are to support an extended lock-down.. but I can’t prove that.. call it a hunch.

        (I’d love to see a survey of self-identified introverts vs extroverts and their support for the lockdown. As an introvert, I’m LOVING not having to go anywhere or see anyone, but I can imagine it being hell on more social people. I’d bet that it’s extremely correlated.)

        • We should have stopped the salaries of all elected officials during this quarantine. Share and share a like.

          • Mathius says:

            My thinking is that, if I’m expected to go to work, and can’t have access to plentiful testing of both myself and everyone around me, then the same should apply to elected officials.

            Last week, Trump went on a factory tour for a run-of-the-mill photo op. No big deal. And he elected not to wear a mask.

            In “defending” why he didn’t wear a mask, the WH made the argument that there was minimal risk to Trump because, and I quote, “Following White House recommended protocol, a small number of individuals directly interfacing with the president on Tuesday were tested for COVID-19 immediately prior to the event, received negative test results, and were permitted to not wear masks during portions of the visit based on that medical screening.”

            I am confused why Trump thinks the rest of us need to “liberate” our states so that we can go back to work, while he, himself, is entitled to sit in a bubble wherein everyone gets tested immediately before contact.

            I think what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If the rest of us should “open up,” then I think elected officials should have to go first. I’m not saying covid IS or IS NOT “over” or “managed” or “dangerous” or anything else.. all I’m saying is that, if pols are going to say that it’s safe for US to go out and risk getting infected, they shouldn’t be able to make those kinds of decisions while sitting inside a fortified germ-free bunker with nigh-unlimited testing.

            And, no, I don’t think this is “just” Trump.. he’s just a blatant example.

            • One thing we have learned is that the House of Reps is basically non-essential and should have been laid off. The Senate could have handled this without Pelosi’s interference.

              The President, regardless of party, will always get preferential treatment during health issues. Your hatred is leading down the really dumb comment path.

              Chicagoans are increasingly ignoring the stay at home order. Murder rates are rising. I’m shocked……NOT.

              The stupid weather has been a bigger inconvenience than the shutdown. Not seeing stupid people as often has been peaceful.

              Got my normal TP restock, 96 rolls for 31 bucks.

              I’m still gonna outlive Mathius 😛

              • Mathius says:

                The President, regardless of party, will always get preferential treatment during health issues. Your hatred is leading down the really dumb comment path.

                What part of “he’s just an example” did you fail to understand?

                Got my normal TP restock, 96 rolls for 31 bucks.

                You’re paying too much.

                I’m still gonna outlive Mathius 😛

                Like hell you are.

              • What part of “he’s just an example” did you fail to understand?

                Which part of “dumb comment” did YOU fail to understand?

    • Great news about your relatives. 😀

    • Mathius says:

      ::sigh::

      • Why the sigh? Could it be that everything you have believed about the Russian collusion, Gen. Flynn and others was a lie? That the Obama administration actually corrupted the agencies, DOJ, FBI CIA, IRS….? That everything we have been saying for the last 3 years could in fact be true. The facts are there if you wish to open your eyes and look at them.

  46. https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/05/08/Measles-vaccinations-in-US-children-fall-up-to-60-percent-since-pandemic-CDC-says/8641588962260/?sl=4

    Are people trying to start a new pandemic . Another unintended consequence or just stupidity on parade.

    • It’s probably just that people have been locked in their houses and haven’t gone to their well child appointments. That’s my guess.

  47. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/seth_rich_refuses_to_stay_buried.html

    With the release of the HoR transcripts on the Russian Hoax investigation we now know that Crowd Strike who investigated the DNC hack had no proof that the Russians hacked the DNC server. So once again we have major disinformation. From the above AT article, it looks like Assange has admitted that Seth Rich was the source. In addition they report that the FBI have the emails between Rich and Assange. If so, the Deep State has known the truth all along and let the Russian Hoax play out to the maximum.

    Also revealed in the transcripts from the HoR is that none of the 53 witnesses had any evidence of Russian collusion on the part of Trump or his team. So the whole Mueller investigation was a waste of money and a fraud in and of itself. Everything Nunes has said has come true. Everything Schiff, Pelosi and Schumer have said and leaked are lies. Most of the MSM has lied as well. This election should go to Trump 90:10 but the left and MSM will continue to lie and the suckers will buy into it. All we will hear for the the next 7 months will be that Trump lies, everyone dies when the truth is that Dems lie and liberty dies.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      If I hated Donald Trump with all my heat and soul, I’d still vote for him this time around because to preserve this “thing” of ours for my grandchildren, I’d have no other choice.

  48. Had to take my wife to the ER Friday afternoon. It was the quickest most efficient ER visit I have every had. They descended on her like a horde of locusts. We were in and out in 2 hrs. Nothing serious, just had to check on something.

  49. Just A Citizen says:

    Weatherman: I am predicting rain tomorrow.
    JAC: It did not rain.
    Weatherman: I am predicting rain tomorrow.
    JAC: It did not rain again.
    Weatherman: It will rain tomorow.
    JAC: But it did not rain as you predicted.
    Mathius: Who the hell is JAC to question the Expert Weatherman?

    Note: Virologists do not know the infection rate of a disease which has not existed before. What they know is what the data reveals. Infection rates and timing is not determined by dna testing or mapping. And here is the critical point. THAT DATA IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.

    Which means that if you pay attention, you know just as much as the experts do regarding the timeline for infections.

    Now let me remind ya’ll of the Fallacy of appeal to authority, which is what this EXPERT argument amounts to.

    • BOOM! Gotta love those fallacies. Especially when the point being argued only involves common sense! 🙂

    • argumentum ad verecundiam

    • There are lots of different types of experts who have relevant expertise in this. There are virologists and epidemiologists and ER doctors and ICU doctors. They all have slightly different perspectives. They are all working with limited information right now, so there is a lot of guessing. I think it’s wise to listen to what they are saying, but we can’t just look at this pandemic from the disease point of view either. We should be thinking about this from an economic angle too. It’s not just lives or money as some people like to say. Money is necessary to sustain life. What will be the results of shutting down the economy for this long? Or spending massive amounts of money on stimulus? These are also important questions. Bring out the economic experts! These lockdowns are probably causing psychological damage to certain segments of the population. Bring out the psychologists! I’m all for experts, but no one is a bigger expert than me on my needs and tolerance for risk, so ultimately I should have final say on what I do. I have lots of savings, live in a large house with a large yard, have access to lots of green space, like the people I live with, and am an introvert, so I can do this for years, but there are people out there who are likely to strangle and eat the people they live with if they have to do this much longer.

    • Mathius says:

      Weatherman: I am predicting rain tomorrow.
      JAC: It did not rain.
      Weatherman: I am predicting rain tomorrow.
      JAC: It did not rain again.
      Weatherman: It will rain tomorrow.
      JAC: But it did not rain as you predicted.

      Mathius: The weatherman is using an advanced predictive model based on tons of data sources, decades of data history, satellite imagery, and so on. These things are inherently statistical and all he can do is give a “most probable guess” – that’s not to say the “most probable guess” will always come true. Further, the odds of rain for a given region are generally given as an area-weighted average of the area – so if it’s nearly certain to rain on one side and almost certain not to on the other, then the prediction for the area is generally given as 50%, which is a bit of a miscommunication with the lay public receiving the information that they don’t necessarily understand how this works (and the weatherman is not explaining it). For example, the weatherman might know that it won’t rain on YOU, but predict rain because your “area” will get rain. Weather is a big complicated thing and intrinsically random and hard to predict. That he was wrong two days in a row does not invalidate everything else. Certainly, this does not make the weatherman always right. And, maybe, your weatherman is just garbage at his job. Or or or. But, on balance, the experts are generally your best shot at getting the best available information at the time the prediction was made. If you want tomorrow’s weather, the weather channel is your best bet, not some random guy on the internet who watched a video that one time and now thinks he’s got it all figured out.

      Gman: He was wrong before, so he says it’ll rain tomorrow, therefore it’ll be sunny! 100% guaranteed.
      Mathius: That not how-
      Gman: I know better than the so-called-experts! I have my own system!
      Mathius: That’s not-
      Gman: My knee is not acting up, and therefore, it will be 72 and sunny!
      Mathius: But-
      Gman: In fact, I demand that everyone listen to me and not the so-called-experts. In fact, the town’s decision to cancel the outdoor farmers’ market for rain is tyranny!
      Mathius: Ugh..
      Gman: And I need a haircut!

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        From 1952 through 1964, Tex Antoine, the weatherman, at NBC, New York looked out the window and used his BA in Fine Art to predict the weather. Did a far better job than the satellite forecasters.

      • Fake news!

        GMan hasn’t had a haircut in over 20 years! 🙂 And even if he did need a haircut, you wouldn’t let him get one for another 20…till every last bit of virus is gone.

    • Mathius says:

      Weatherman: I am predicting rain tomorrow.
      JAC: It did not rain.
      Weatherman: I am predicting rain tomorrow.
      JAC: It did not rain again.
      Weatherman: It will rain tomorow.
      JAC: But it did not rain as you predicted.
      Mathius: Who the hell is JAC to question the Expert Weatherman?

      ——————

      In fact, thinking about this, a better analogy might be:

      Monday: This weekend is looking sunny!
      Tuesday: This weekend is looking partially cloudy.
      Wednesday: This weekend is looking cloudy.
      Thursday: This weekend is looking like scattered showers.
      Friday: Sorry, folks, but we’re in for rain tomorrow.

      JAC: But you predicted sunny! Why should I trust you now?!

      Experts: Well, because rain was always a possibility, but it was less likely given the models and our experience and billions of datapoints, etc. But as the week progressed, we saw that a cold front moved in, trapping the moist air, making rain progressively more and more plausible until now it’s almost certain.

      GMAN: He WaS wRoNg BeFoRe ThErEfOrE hE cAnNoT bE tRuStEd!!1!! O _ o

      Experts: We weren’t “wrong” per se. We gave the statistically probable answer and adjusted as the data firmed up. If you roll a die, “6” is always a possibility, but your best bet before the roll is to say “not 6” – but if a 6 does come up, that doesn’t mean you were “wrong” just that that’s how statistical things work.

      GMAN: ToO cOmPliCaTeD! MoUtH nOiSeS mAkE gMaN aNgRy AnD sCaReD!! mE nO LiKe HiS bIg WoRdS! tOo CoMpLiCaTeD! GmAn SmArTeR! GmAn KnOwS aLl AnSwErs! GmAn LeArNeD tRuTh FrOm YoUtUbE vIdEo! O _ o

      Expert: …

      JAC: Well, you were wrong earlier in the week, so now that you have more data and can make a more plausible prediction, I’ll refuse to acknowledge any of that and just act as though you must still be wrong. Further, experts have killed people, so I’m afraid we’re going to have to execute you. The role of weatherman will be played by Gman who will give predictions based on the Farmers’ Almanac and how his knee feels when he gets out of bed on a given morning. Longer-term predictions will be made by Anita reading tossed chicken bones.

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