Is It Over Yet?

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  1. Time for a new thread!

  2. According to the Gateway Pundit, “all of the leading names in the Democratic party took in this money including Adam Schiff and Ted Lieu, Jon Tester, Cory Booker, Hillary Clinton, etc.”

    https://rightwingnewshour.com/ag-barr-indicts-8-for-funneling-millions-in-foreign-donations-to-clinton-schiff-and-top-senate-democrats/

    Is it illegal to knowingly take foreign campaign donations?

  3. MINNEAPOLIS, MN—Lieutenant Chris Gastelum was laid off yesterday by the Minneapolis Police Department after the city council voted to defund the police. As he was walking home, he saw, by chance, some rioters throwing Molotov cocktails at the homes of several city council members. But, sadly, he was powerless to do anything, as he’d just turned in his gun and badge.

    “Help, officer — they’re burning down my house!” screamed a city council member.

    “Oh, shoot! Sorry! Would love to help but they couldn’t afford me anymore,” Gastelum said. One rioter paused, worried he would be arrested. “Oh, no, sir, go right ahead,” the former officer said. “I’m not a cop anymore. Feel free to continue with your mostly peaceful protest.”

    “Better luck next time!” Gastelum said cheerily to the city council member before skipping on his merry way, a newfound spring in his step.

    “It’s a real bummer,” he told reporters later. “I would have loved to help out.” Just then, he turned another corner to see another city council member getting mugged. “Hey, good to see you!” he shouted at her. “Hope everything’s going well for you! Have a great day!”

  4. Just A Citizen says:

    Mathius

    Responding to your comment yesterday about Blue vs. Red State responses to Covid. Sorry Sir but it just appalls me how selectively dishonest your short term memory is at times. You should have that checked out.

    In which States was it that political leaders encouraged their citizens to attend large public gatherings to join in the Chinese New Year celebrations? Just to emphasize their narrative that Mr. Trump was a xenophobe. And AFTER the Covid had come to the USA.

    In which States did the political leaders order elderly sick patients to be placed in nursing homes, with the most vulnerable population?

    Is some of the rhetoric about Blue vs. Red wrong? Yes it is. But what you posted about Red States just sitting around is pure unadulterated Bull Shit.

    Oh, and don’t let the fact that Dr. Fauci stood at the podium and told ALL OF AMERICA that wearing a mask was NOT needed.

    • You should have that checked out.

      I DID!

      In which States was it that political leaders encouraged their citizens to attend large public gatherings to join in the Chinese New Year celebrations? Just to emphasize their narrative that Mr. Trump was a xenophobe. And AFTER the Covid had come to the USA.

      Probably several, but I believe NY was one of them.

      Then again, Chinese New Year was January when nobody was taking it seriously.

      In which States did the political leaders order elderly sick patients to be placed in nursing homes, with the most vulnerable population?

      I keep hearing this talking point. Do you happen to have an authoritative source on this?

      Is some of the rhetoric about Blue vs. Red wrong? Yes it is.

      Good.

      But what you posted about Red States just sitting around is pure unadulterated Bull Shit.

      It is?

      Oh, my bad. I take it all back!

      Oh, and don’t let the fact that Dr. Fauci stood at the podium and told ALL OF AMERICA that wearing a mask was NOT needed.

      He advocated, early on, for not using masks because there were supply shortages and people were hoarding and frontline workers weren’t able to get the PPE they needed. I’m sure you remember all this.

      I’d point out, further, that the science is and has been evolving since day one and continues to evolve. Whereas Blue Team has – generally – made an effort to follow the science, Trump and co have told us that it would disappear like magic, that the cases would soon be down to zero, that masks are dangerous, and we could put light in our bodies to cure it, hocked unproven treatments, repeatedly promised vaccines just around the corner, admitted to “downplaying” the severity (even while on tape discussing how bad it is), insisted that he’s never downplayed the severity, and suggested that we’ll have “herd mentality” [sic] soon.

      I would never – NEVER – suggest that Blue Team, Blue states, or Blue governors got it 100% right. At my very most generous, I might give some of them a C-.

      My assertion is not now, nor has it ever been, that Blue Team is “good.” Only that Red Team is worse.

      Further, my assertion, yesterday, was not that Blue Team got it right, but that it’s disingenuous for Red Team to have blamed Blue Team for an overreaction at the time while hitting them for an underreaction in hindsight.

  5. Just A Citizen says:

    It seems it is time to remind the audience that recently Dr. Fauci made a public statement in response to Woodward’s accusations that Mr. Trump was lying about he severity of Covid.

    In this response he told the reporter that Mr. Trump has never said anything in public that was inconsistent with what was discussed in the Task Force or other meetings with the “experts”.

    In a separate event a month or so back he stated that Mr. Trump had carried out every single action item suggested by the “experts” and Task Force. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

    Yet last night Joe Biden stated on national TV (CNN) that POTUS Trump was “responsible” no I think the word was “caused” EVERY SINGLE COVID DEATH. Then the CNN puppet Doctor got on and claimed that “people have told me” POTUS is directly responsible for 80 to 90% of the COVID deaths.

    OK, Guupta isn’t running for POTUS. But Joe Biden is and he just LIED to the American people in a most awful way. Dem Party leaders have been pushing this narrative for months, along with their media support group.

    But of course, it is Mr. Trump and the Republicans who are politicizing Covid.

  6. Just A Citizen says:

    So now an agency IG is supposed to be the tool of partisans in Congress. Note what it is they are complaining about. The release of indictments or investigation conclusions. Real interfering that would be…………

    https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/517061-house-democrats-urge-doj-watchdog-to-probe-barr-political-appointees

  7. Survey:

    I know the story about ICE detention centers conducting forced hysterectomies is probably specious. There is at least one documented instance where they removed the wrong ovary, but that’s easy enough to chalk up to medical error. So, pending further evidence, I’m operating on the assumption that this story is a nothing burger. So I want to be clear: I’m not asking anything about the veracity of the story itself. This is really a question about Trump supporters.

    SUPPOSE Trump came out tomorrow and said “yes, this is our new policy. And if I get a second term, we will expand and ramp up these procedures. We believe it will be an effective deterrent against illegal immigration and also prevent illegal immigrants from having anchor babies.”

    SUPPOSE that were the public, stated, official policy of the Trump administration.

    The question I want to ask is this: How much of his support do you think he’d lose?

    What percentage of his base would abandon him? What percentage of his allies in Congress. Would he lose the support of Fox and Friends? How much of the public would contort themselves into excusing this or dissonantly finding a way to believe that’s not what he meant?

    10%? Half? 90?

    Do you think 100% of his allies would flip their support to Biden tomorrow? Do you think Mitch McConnell would go out and stump for Biden / Harris?

    Would you – YOU, dear SUFA-ite, vote for Biden? Or would you vote 3rd party? Or would you think that Bidden’s supposed socialist agenda is even worse for America?

    What percent of his support might find their way into believing that the Antifa socialist yada yada yada is too much of a threat, and that they’d hold their nose and vote for Trump anyway?

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    Put more simply: do you think a policy forced sterilization of illegal immigrants would be an absolute deal-breaker to Trump’s base?

    • I am tired of people making sh?t up. This is an absolute BS hypothetical.

      • Feel free not to answer. It’s a hypothetical.

        If you prefer, we can try this: “What percent of his base would Obama have lost if he had eaten a baby on live TV. Just, snatched it out of the arms of a random woman in a crowd, unhinged his jaw like a snake, and swapped it whole.”

        I’d say that would cost him 2/3rds of his base upfront, but the story would die down and he’d get 1/3rd of that back over time.

        “Yes, sure, he eats babies. And I’m not cool with that… but he’s a pretty good President otherwise. Plus he’s really intimidating to foreign leaders in negotiations now, so that’s a big plus.”

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      I hate to say this but I think you are slipping over into an alternate universe. The answer to one of perhaps the dumbest questions I ever heard is ALL would leave. Furthermore most of us realize that under the laws of the land this could NOT happen.

      You can point all you want to the forced sterilizations and the syphilis experiments do you really think POTUS at the time, had a clue that was going on….. Do you think the American People even knew it was going on? If so, provide the reporting from the era on it. The “mad” scientists got loose and like every government program it ran wild until someone finally read the small print. .

      The outrages committed with forced incarcerations of a group of people belong exclusively to the administrations of Franklin Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson who DID know what was going on during the World Wars and I believe allowed it to happen knowing full well it was bullshit. It did garner popular support for the “War effort”. “Liberty cabbage” indeed on your hot dog (not frankfurter)!

      Even in the instances of the Indian Wars and Indian removal, there were loud voices within this country against the policy. Perhaps the majority agreed but there were always people of honor like David Crockett who spoke loudly against it.

      • I hate to say this but I think you are slipping over into an alternate universe.

        That would be if I believe it was happening.

        Which I don’t.

        That’s why this is called a HYPOTHETICAL.

        And the question isn’t really about Trump, but the cool-aid drinking cult that is his base.

        The answer to one of perhaps the dumbest questions I ever heard is ALL would leave.

        Bullshit.

        At the very least, he has a core (of indeterminate size) of actually racists. Hardcore neo-Nazis and Klan types. These exist and they vote for him. And they would not leave him over this.

        So, maybe your answer is 99.9%?

        Furthermore most of us realize that under the laws of the land this could NOT happen.

        I’d be inclined to agree with you except, you know, laws can be changed and America has done this many times before.

        You can point all you want to the forced sterilizations and the syphilis experiments do you really think POTUS at the time, had a clue that was going on….. Do you think the American People even knew it was going on?

        Yes.

        Yes I do.

        Not all of it. But some of it, some of the time, throughout our long history of it.

        Andrew Jackson probably personally conducted a few.

        The “mad” scientists got loose and like every government program it ran wild until someone finally read the small print. .

        Agreed!

        If – IF – this turns out to be a thing really happening (which, again, I doubt), it’s almost certainly going to turn out to be 5-6 fanatics who just somehow managed not to get caught within the larger apparatus and are only now getting noticed and who would – if real – be facing life sentences.

        Again, this isn’t about “is this happening” or “how does this happen” or “who knew what and when.” It’s fantasy at this point. A pure hypothetical.

        Because the real question is: do you think this would be a deal breaker for his entire base.

        And I don’t think so.

        I think he’d lose 2/3rds. And I think, if he had enough time, 1/3rd of that would come back.

        (For reference, this is about the same percentages I give of Blue supporters who would leave Obama for eating a baby on live TV)

        • Ok…hypothetical: SUPPOSE Trump came out tomorrow and said “yes, this is our new policy. And if I get a second term, we will expand and ramp up these procedures. We believe it will be an effective deterrent against illegal immigration and also prevent illegal immigrants from having anchor babies.” this would be abhorrent and worthy of being strung up by the balls with fish hooks,,,,,,no not regular fish hooks…but TREBLE hooks.

          Because the real question is: do you think this would be a deal breaker for his entire base. I think it would be a deal breaker for 99.9% if his base.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        It was not that long ago that the last lawsuit over forced sterilization during those early eugenics years was settled in NC.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Maybe you should ask yourself that question vis a vi Mr. Biden and Ms. Harris.

      • I said that Obama would have lost 2/3rds if he ate a baby on live TV, but that he’d eventually get 1/3rd of that back.

        I think that’s close enough to “ask yourself that question,” no?

        Your turn.

        It’s an honest enough question – put more generally as: how bad would Trump have to be, how flagrant, in order for his base to abandon him?

  8. Daughter,

    You asked: what exactly do you think will be better for our country and the citizens of the United States with Biden/Harris over Trump/Pence

    I want to preface this by reiterating my position that Biden/Harris is not my first choice. Or tenth. Or thousandth. My position is not now, nor has it ever been, that I am voting “for” Biden, but rather that I am voting “against” Trump.

    To that end, I need to be able to support not the position “Biden is good,” but “Biden is better” “Trump is worse.”

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    So. How is Trump worse?

    Education: An educated population is a better population. I don’t mean this to imply that everyone needs to go to college, but rather that education is a public interest good. Trump has appointed Betsy DeVos, a woman with no education in public education, who has fought tooth and nail to privatize schools. A woman who, by her own admission, expects a “return on her investment” in having supported Trump and who is overly conflicted, having a family financial interest in privatized education and for-profit schooling. Trump has asserted a belief in private schools as the superior offering, preferring a voucher program, but voucher programs (aside from often routing federal tax dollars into private religious education) steal money from already struggling schools. This is a classic case of “we took your funding, so you don’t perform as well, then we take more funding away because you obviously don’t work.” Aside from the swamp monster he appointed, studies have shown strong and consistent evidence that vouher programs don’t work. That’s not to say they don’t have any pros, but these are vastly outweighed. (conflict of interest note: my wife is a public school teacher)

    COVID: Trump has absolutely shit the bed on COVID. His lies and misinformation have been insessant and overtly counterproductive. Whereas the rest of the developed world has broadly coped with the disease well, we have done terribly. Some of that, of course, is due to America’s system of federal/state/local control and also our cultural tendency for individualism over collectivism. But to assert that Trump did better than Biden would have (or, hopefully, will, after January) is fantasy. Biden has NOT been perfect. But I could go on for pages about how bad Trump has been. Honestly, I think having no one at the top would have been more beneficial.

    Unions: At a time when income inequality is at the highest it’s ever been, unions are more important than they’ve been since the dawn of the industrial revolution. That’s not to say unions are “good” per se, but they are a necessary ill to balance the power of the 0.1% ruling class versus the little guy. (Amazon recently posted and then deleted opening for internal investigators to find anyone agitating for unions).

    Maybe a bit tangential, but Trump also makes his hats and ties in China and has a long history of wage theft from his employees. To be clear, I’m not voting against him for this.. I just think it bears mentioning. Because he’s a jerk.

    Racism: Hooo boy… well, let’s begin by acknowledging that neither Biden nor Harris has what I’d call a sterling record. I think they’ve largely got their heads screwed on by now, but that hasn’t always been the case. That said, Trump has gutted the civil rights offices at the DoE and Justices. Trump, himself, has a history of racial discrimination in housing as a builder. He has derided all efforts by the more peaceful aims of the BLM, preferring to paint the whole as rioters and attempting to delegitimize their efforts. Even before the recent uprisings, he referred to a BLM kneer as a “son of a bitch.” Black people DO have SOME legitimate gripes, but rather than engage with those, he has opted to use it as a wedge tactic. (he who makes peaceful change impossible, makes revolution inevitable)

    Immigration: I don’t think it should come as any surprise that I prefer Biden to Trump on immigration (both legal and illegal). I am for OPEN borders. Open-open. As in, “if you aren’t a known criminal, then come on in, here’s your green card.” A radical position, I’m sure, but Biden and Blue Team are far closer to me than Trump and the Red Team. Also, Trump tied to kill DACA.

    Gay/Trans: The Trump administration has been overtly hostile to trans rights. Biden may be a bit flimsier, but Harris has a strong pro-trans pro-gay record going back decades. To be clear, I don’t think Biden OR Trump have a soul, and neither actually gives a single solitary shit about trans people – but a powerful faction of Red and Blue base do – and therefore Trump kowtows to the his base and Biden to his.. this makes Biden pro and Trump anti. It’s that simple. Do I think trans rights are the biggest thing in the world? No. No I do not. But this kind of discrimination strikes a cord deep within the social-justice part of my Jew-brain.

    Abortion: I am pro choice. Trump (to my knowledge) hasn’t done shit about abortion, though, of course, he promises to do so. Then again, he does keep appointing judges. Now, my view here is somewhat conflicted. As you’ll note, I believe Roe is a bad ruling. So overturning a bad ruling is a good thing. But I believe Trump would work to overturn it without any effort to protect the underlying right (that is, actual right, as opposed to legal right). Biden would not do this.

    Judges: Which leads me to judges. I actually prefer Trump here (somewhat.. you’ll see why). Not because Trump, but because he just does wasn’t the Heritage foundation tells him to, and I prefer originalist and textualists and, generally, more conservative judges. I just do. I think that liberal judges have a tendency to overapply the “living text” concept. That’s not to say that conservative judges don’t get “activist” too… just that, on balance, the errors tend to be less egregious and more in line with adherence to a valid legal framework.

    THAT SAID, I like some balance on the Supreme Court. Given my druthers, I’d have the entire federal system stocked with strong conservative textualists. But SCOTUS would be 5-4 (majority conservative) with at least one fire-breathing conservative and one radical liberal. I do not want to replace RBG with another conservative. I do not want to find ourselves in four years with an 8-1 court. I think too much skew on the Court destroys the “check” component of “checks and balance.”

    Religion: I’m a Jew. Nominally. I guess. Whatever.. doesn’t matter. What I am NOT is a devout Christian. And I am not a bible thumper and I do NOT want to live in a Christian theocracy. I don’t think Trump does either. But he knows his base and has made a Faustian bargain with the religious powers- that-be. His anti-gay, anti-trans, pro-voucher, virtue signaling photo op (with an upside down bible after gassing peaceful protesters), promises on Roe, promises on school prary, and so on… guarantee him that support. And as he tips SCOTUS closer and closer to killing Roe, they’ll never abandon him. Oh, and before I forget, all that bullshit about bringing “merry christmas” and ending the bullshit war on Christmas. I cannot tell you how much that chafes us non-Christians. Biden, conversely, is far more secular in the public sphere.

    Guns: Meh. Whatever.

    Geo politics: I do not see that Trump has made us any safer. China is still ascendant and our standing in the world has never been lower. Whereas the right used to constantly bitch and moan about how the world didn’t respect Obama, they don’t respect Trump. At. All. And we have aligned all our allies in a world which is increasingly interconnected. I can’t speak to Biden-as-world-leader, but if he is anything like Obama, I’ll take it any day of the week.

    Climate change: Look, I’m not 100% sold on the full details and alarmism of the left, but there’s something going on. Trump is a climate change denier and Biden isn’t. ‘Nuff said.

    Tax: Setting aside that Trump raised my taxes 5-figures, I am in favor of taxing the rich and giving to the poor. This is demonstrably not the case with Trump and is the case with Biden. I am especially irked at the current tax “holiday” which puts money in people’s pockets now, but which they would have to pay back after the election. Biden is also more in favor of taxing corporations – Trump signed a $1.5T bill that directly benefitted the wealthy and corporations while handing out a pittance to the poor. I don’t believe in Trickle Down. I think this is a lie sold by the rich, and if it continues, we are in for an American version of the Frech Revolution.

    Medial: Biden is still a wuss on universal health care. But he does want to patch up and expand the ACA. Trump, on the other hand, has worked to dismantle the ACA and replace it with a much better plan he has been promising to unveil just around the corner for 3 1/2 years. This is not to say that Biden and the ACA are good – they are not – but Trump’s plans don’t exist unless it’s simply “screw it” in which case that’s even worse. “Who knew health care could be so complicated?” EVERYONE, Donald. Everyone knew.

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    All that is on top of the fact that Trump is, you know, a giant asshole, and a generally horrendous person.

    And a liar.

    Oh god, he lies. So. Much. Please! Make it stop.

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    I think that’s enough for now.

    Look, we can nitpick any one of these and drill down to debate any finer point. I’m not asserting that everything is 100% complete or fair or, hell, even accurate… I just kind of did this stream-of-consciousness… but as a general sense of things, I think it’s clear that Trump is the worse option for me vote.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      One item….Education…..Please explain to me how providing perhaps $ 7,500, roughly a third of what a Public School costs per pupil to a private , religious or not, school removes “valuable resources” from Public Schools. What I see is quite the opposite. An opportunity for Public Schools to reduce class size. I do NOT for a single moment believe that if an option for a Voucher were given to me even though in a far less amount than the cost per child in a Public School, I would see a dimes savings on my annual school tax bill. I guess Milwaukee with its voucher program would be interesting to research. Go to it grasshopper!

      Eagerly awaiting your discoveries.

      Years ago, I made the proposal , in a public forum that we go voucher in NJ, that 1/3rd of what it costs in public school go to a voucher, the remaining 2/3rd’s of the cost would be split evenly between the Public Schools and the taxpayer. Boy was I shouted down by the PTA folk in league with the AFT. Today, in the time of Trump, I would be probably lynched. (it would be OK I’m white).

      Back to one point on lying. Do you believe he condemned white supremacists after Charlottesville, Yes or No? Hint, Biden, publicly apparently said NO.

      • Do you believe he condemned white supremacists after Charlottesville, Yes or No?

        Was that his “good people on both sides”?

        I think he knows how to dog whistle pretty well. I don’t remember which one this specifically was, so you’ll have to forgive me… but I remember one where he was conspicuously silent for a few days, tried to play it off even handedly, then eventually got around to a flimsy condemnation… Is that a “condemnation”? Sure. I guess.

        But was it a full-through one with sincerity and any kind of actual emphasis? Not the time I’m thinking of. But there have been a bunch of incidents and they all kind of run together at this point.

        • Yes, he did, quite clearly. This has been long ago debunked as more liberal fake news BS.

        • https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/21/trump_didnt_call_neo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html

          Trump condemned the white supremacists several times but the MSM was deaf and apparently so were you, Mathius. He won awards for helping blacks prior to running. Dave Rubin and his mate met Trump at a dinner in Florida and was treated very graciously by Donald and Melania. He is not the only gay to experience this.

          Obama hobnobbed with Farrakhan and Sharpton. When has the Democrat party every condemned the black supremacy groups such as BLM, Black Panthers, Farrakhan or Sharpton? Just because the Dems and MSM constantly call people on the right racists does not make it so. In my opinion there are far more racists on the left than on the right. It is not the right that is trying to resegragate society.

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          It was clear and it was emphatic and it was many many times. Like the BS about dissing WW 1 vets as losers and Russia, Russia, Russia, it was all a hoax. You should expand your viewing and reading.

          Say, what about vouchers?

    • Trump has appointed Betsy DeVos, a woman with no education in public education Pretty standard procedure that goes back decades. Not saying it is correct, but every single POTUS does these things. It sucks because it is political payback.

      Some of that, of course, is due to America’s system of federal/state/local control and also our cultural tendency for individualism over collectivism. And I hope we continue with individualism over collectivism.

      Unions well, I will not even comment on this. I am more anti union than you are anti Trump.

      That said, Trump has gutted the civil rights offices at the DoE and Justices. As he should have.

      There is nothing non violent about BLM. Read and follow the links on the web site…especially the number two co fiunder of BLM. BLM co-founder Alicia Garza, 39, is the principal of Black Futures Lab, an advocacy group for black people.
      The group is financially supported by the Chinese Progressive Association.
      Its donate button links directly to the CPA siteThe CPA was founded in San Francisco in 1972 and has held events with and in support of the Chinese Communist government
      Garza has previously been described as a ‘trained Marxist’ …………….believe in this if you want. This is indicative of the ENTIRE movement.

      Trump tied to kill DACA. Too bad it did not work.

      Gay/Trans Do not give a rat’s ass. Just do not get in my face with it.

      Abortion I stay away from this argument. There is no winner.

      Religion See abortion answer.

      Guns I have all I need and then some. Good luck taking them away.

      Geo politics China is a ball that has been punted down the road. We better fight them now while we still can. My prediction is that if Biden/Harris or Harris/Biden win…..Taiwan is toast and so are 3 Islands of the Philipines. Neither of them has the balls to stand up to them. Obama was dog shit.

      Climate change I do not believe in it either. You are correct….nuff said.

      TAX No Robin Hood approach, please. I support NO tax deductions of any kind, personal or business, and a flat tax. But, we all know THAT is not possible. So, to the rich, start hiding your money again. To the poor, hold out both hands….to the dwindling middle class…hold on to your ass…that is all that will be left.

      Medial: I am very disappointed in our approach. Deregulate it….let the market decide.
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      As to where he makes his hats and ties…objection. Until you are not buying anything marked made in China, you have no standing to criticize…..or anything made in Malaysia, or Indonesia,Sri Lanka……..Vietnam….etc………Because if you are buying from those places, then you support child labor. low wages, sweat shops, and no rights.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Short version. The Country will be better in Mathius’ mind because his sensibilities won’t be as offended. No matter that much of that offense has been created by his exposure to DNC propaganda.

  9. Sir Mathius…..I have managed to talk to every single one of my credible sources. I can find nothing other than a proposal put forth in 2014 suggesting something akin to forced sterilization. It got nowhere but it was put forth back then and had noting to do with ICE. Nothing has been heard of since. So, I think you are correct, it is a nothing burger. One of my credible sources is high up in the ICE command structure….he was pretty taken back. If there was anything like this in ICE, he said, he would blow the whistle before God got the news.

    • One of my credible sources is high up in the ICE command structure….he was pretty taken back.

      He really shouldn’t have been surprised… there’s no reason I should have heard about this before him….

      • This nonsense is just starting. Next Monday Trump will be a reptilian overlord as reported by CNN and MSNBC.

    • Appreciate the D13 Stamp on this.

      Like you, I figured nothingburger, but… well… I wouldn’t take that kind of thing laying down..

  10. You know, Mathius, you really bring up a great point. As Americans, and to some of the values we have……….we are so moral being against child labor, sweat shops, women’s rights, religion, racism…………………….but we sure do turn our heads for a cheaper product. Is there a justification for this? I think not.

    • Three reasons:

      A) It’s almost impossible to know for sure where much of the supply chain runs. Sure, I know that my iPhone has components made in China. But what about my keyboard? My calculator? My kitchen cabinets? My super secret brain pills cholesterol medication? How do you boycott when (1) you don’t even know who to boycott or (2) boycotting might mean forgoing necessary goods (eg, medicine)?

      B) I just really want an iPhone. I know damned well that its production involved gross human rights abuses bordering on de facto slavery. And I, like the selfish asshole that I am, went out and bought one anyway. This is an absolute personal failing.

      C) This is the real problem. Out of sight is out of mind.

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      The only real answer. The only RIGHT answer is a federal ban on goods produced with slave labor, child labor, forced labor, or involving human rights abuses. Everything needs to certify through a reputable 3rd party. Let the free market determine sort it out. Phase it in over 5 years so the supply chains have time to adjust.

      • Dale A Albrecht says:

        When I worked for IBM semiconductor manufacturing between 1981-1994, we sure as hell knew and tracked every supplier worldwide for our worldwide fabricators. I had immediatel access to 7 years of records. I had at my finger tips every process step, every tool record and process time for every microprocessor we made and the employee who ran that process step. In every facility that made the chips. Even all the test data collected throughout the thousands of process steps to make a semiconductor. I could even get the data from a facility that may even have just run one process because of a tool down situation. Wed ship the product to let’s say Fishkill or Essones France. Theyd run that process step and send it back. I knew it. Everything dovetailed. I even could get at the manufacturer of the tool itself data.

        It can be done even easier today if a company chooses to do it.

        I know because i ran 3 labs responsible. One in the US, one in Japan and one in France.

        I had sign off on every change of process. Did the proposed change meet its stated objective. If not the pricess was not installed.

  11. Just A Citizen says:

    Another public official ignorant of history. While claiming we need to learn from the atrocities of the past decades the guy falls into saying we need to redirect money to more education and housing needs.

    Did someone forget to teach this guy about The Great Society?? Let alone all the impacts it has had since then.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/us/blm-protests-small-town-ohio-trnd/index.html

    We need to move on. While there are poor people in this country it should be obvious by now that handing out more free stuff is not solving the problem.

    • While there are poor people in this country it should be obvious by now that handing out more free stuff is not solving the problem.

      Alright JAC.

      All appearance to the contrary, I’m not really a big fan of “handing out more free redistributed stuff.”

      But tell me how YOU – JAC – YOU fix it.

      You’ve been appointed King For A Day and can do anything you need to straighten out the US economy.

      How do you fix it? How do you ensure that people are paid enough to live? Or that there are enough such jobs? How do you ensure that jobs exist in the face of the inevitable onslaught of automation?

      I agree that we can’t “tax ourselves to prosperity” or simply give enough to The Poors to make everyone rich. So what is the – RIGHT – answer?

      How do you ensure that no one in the US (who is willing to put in an honest day’s work) goes hungry, homeless, or without necessary medication?

      ——

      (reads JAC’s future reply)

      Yes, I get it JAC, I know… it’s not moral to rule the free market with an iron fist and you aren’t smarter than the free market and the free market is the greatest creator of wealth in human history and liberty means that some people don’t get everything they need and yada yada yada..

      I know that your goals as king are orthogonal to mine. Answer the question. Do you think completely deregulating would do it? Giving everything to Jeff Bezos and letting him sort it out? Sacrificing Nancy Pelosi to a volcano (hey, it’s worth a shot!)? What?

      Take MY goal – everyone (willing to honestly work) gets what they need (actually need, not “want”) – and tell me how you’d get there.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Mathius

        I cannot fix it. You cannot fix it. Govt. cannot fix it.

        People need to change their attitudes and take some responsibility for their own lives. Families need to stay connected and support each other. Those are things that can only be addressed by Govt in the context of NOT doing things that are counterproductive.

        Oh, and NOT making policies that stifle economic growth.

        P.S. Given your response to Daughter and others I take it you did not see the reports showing that the Wealth Gap has DECREASED under Mr. Trump. That the US Median Income has INCREASED for the first time in almost two decades.

        I would not let Mr. Bezos figure it out as he couldn’t. But I would be willing to give Ms. Pelosi to the volcano gods…………. just in case it might help.

        PS: Need is relative. I submit that anyone able and willing to work in this country is getting what they need. Even without Govt. support. With that support they should be escaping poverty in large numbers. As I recall about 6 years ago the average “income” (not wage) of a poor person was higher than the US Median wage. Or maybe just under. I do remember it was close.

  12. Just A Citizen says:

    Just look at what the racist President and incompetent Sec. of Education included in the 2021 President’s Budget Request. Those SOB’s.

    Historically Black Colleges and Universities
    The fiscal year 2021 Request is consistent with the President’s Executive Order on HBCUs, which calls for efforts to strengthen the capacity of HBCUs to provide the highest-quality education and to provide opportunities for HBCU participation in Federal programs. HBCU programs, including Howard University, would receive a total of $749.2 million, an increase of $44 million over the fiscal year 2020 enacted level (including the $50 million HBCU share of MSEIP funds proposed for fiscal year 2021). In addition, the recent enactment of the FUTURE Act would provide $85 million in mandatory funding for HBCUs, bringing the total amount of Department of Education support for HBCU programs in fiscal year
    2021 to $834.2 million.

    Minority-Serving Institutions
    The fiscal year 2021 Request also would expand support for MSIs, which serve high proportions of minority students, often in communities otherwise underserved by other institutions of higher education. The Request provides a total of $343 million for MSIs, an increase of $87.4 million, or 34 percent, over the fiscal year 2020 enacted level. New funds in fiscal year 2021 would be dedicated to the MSI share of the HBCU/MSI STEM Opportunity Zones initiative described above. In addition, the Request includes $336.3 million in combined discretionary and mandatory funding for an expansion of the Consolidated MSI Grant proposal included in the 2020 President’s Budget. The 2021 proposal would streamline grantmaking by consolidating a total of 11 discretionary and mandatory MSI program authorities, including the HEA Title V Aid for Hispanic-Serving Institutions programs, that have similar purposes and activities, into a single institutional formula grant program, providing funds more institutions can count on, yielding program management efficiencies, and targeting funds to institutions that serve their students well. The $196.3 million discretionary Request is the same as the 2020 appropriation for the discretionary MSI and HSI programs that would be included in the consolidated formula grant.

    FYI, the total Dept of Ed budget is lower for 2021 than 2020. But that is reduced to capture savings from the proposal to stop line item funding to states in favor of a Block Grant funding mechanism and implementing Tax Credits for individuals and organizations that donate to State designed scholarship programs for elementary and secondary education. The budget also proposes designing a reorganization of the Student Loan program and offices. Hoping to improve service at less cost.

  13. Alright, that’s it for me today, ladies and gentlemen.

    Happy New Year!

    Y’all can stay stuck in 2020, suckers.. I’m off to 5781.

    Who says being a Jew doesn’t have its perks?

  14. JAC's Daughter says:

    Oh man, it truly is amazing how quick you guys are on here.

    Mathius, it’s gonna take me a while to get through all this and respond. Given our time difference and it being Friday, let us continue next week. 🙂

    Enjoy your weekend!

  15. Just A Citizen says:

    How far we have fallen in only 8 short months. The President’s message to Congress, sent with his budget in February of this year.

    THE BUDGET MESSAGE OF THE PRESIDENT
    To the Congress of the United States:
    Over the past 3 years, my Administration has worked tirelessly to restore America’s economic strength. We have ended the war on American workers and stopped the assault on American industry, launching an economic boom the likes of which we have never seen before. While our incredible economic turnaround came as a shock to most career politicians in Washington, it is no surprise to millions of hard-working families across the Nation. Their natural talent, ingenuity, and strength simply needed an opportunity to flourish, free from the massive regulations and taxes heaped upon them by their Government.

    As my Administration continues to remove these burdens, our economy continues to surpass expectations. We are growing faster than the experts thought possible. The unemployment rate is at 3.5 percent, the lowest it has been in 50 years. And more Americans are working today than at any point in our history. Today’s tremendous job market is leading employers to realize the vast potential of many individuals they previously overlooked. Over the past 3 years, the employment rate of our prime-age workers has skyrocketed, and wages are growing the fastest for historically disadvantaged workers, reversing trends under the previous administration.

    With this 2021 Budget, my Administration is placing a special focus on these forgotten Americans, because every individual deserves to experience the dignity that comes through work. The truth is, jobs do not just provide paychecks: they give people purpose; allow them to engage with their communities; and help them reach their true potential. As we have shown, the right policies offer Americans paths to independence rather than trapping them in reliance on Government programs.

    The era of putting American workers second and doubling down on the failed policies of the past is over. While job creation during my Presidency has surpassed expectations, the credit belongs to the job creators and workers who risk everything and devote themselves to building a better future for themselves, their families, and their Nation. The Federal Government does not create jobs; hardworking Americans create jobs. My Administration’s role is to follow our foundational policy pillars and allow our job creators and workers to do what they do best. To ensure this economic strength continues, I have called on the Government to reduce wasteful, unnecessary spending, and to fix mismanagement and redundancy across agencies. This includes prioritizing spending for programs that are a core function of the United States Government.

    As we enter the 2020’s, our Nation confronts new challenges and opportunities. The 21st century requires us to focus on great power rivals; prioritize artificial intelligence, 5G, and industries of the future; and to protect our research and environment from foreign government influence. To meet these challenges and seize these opportunities, we must shift the Government out of its old and outdated ways. This will require each and every Government agency to do more to prepare for the demands of tomorrow.

    2 The Budget Message of the President
    The following are key priorities of my Administration:
    Better Trade Deals. Renegotiated or new trade deals with Canada and Mexico, China, South
    Korea, and Japan are modernizing international trade and creating freer, fairer, and more reciprocal trade between the United States and our largest economic partners. These deals will enable our country’s manufacturing renaissance to continue. Trade deals are in development with the United Kingdom and the European Union, as well as other countries that desire access to the coveted American market. These deals will expand American markets abroad and keep businesses here in America, which means keeping jobs here at home.

    Preserving Peace through Strength. To sustain security at home and promote American
    interests abroad, my Administration has rebuilt the military. A strong military, fully equipped and integrated with our allies and all our instruments of power, enables our Nation to deter war, preserve peace, and, if necessary, defeat aggression against the United States and her people. To that end, my Budget requests $740.5 billion for national defense.

    Overcoming the Opioid Crisis. Because of my Administration’s aggressive tactics to fight
    over-prescription of opioids, promote effective treatment for addiction, and secure the border, we are turning the tide of the opioid crisis. Since my term began, we have seen a more than 30 percent decrease in the total amount of opioids prescribed, and deaths from drug overdose fell for the first time in nearly 30 years in 2018.

    Failure is not an option when it comes to helping people avoid the pain, suffering, and death caused by addiction. Work must play an integral role in any solution. Research shows that holding a job is a key factor in helping people overcome drug addiction. For the duration of my Presidency, I will continue to promote policies that will beat back this deadly crisis and promote job training and employment opportunities for Americans who are rebuilding their lives after struggling with addiction.

    Regulation Relief. Many pundits and Washington insiders laughed when I promised to cut
    two regulations for every new regulation. They were correct that two-for-one was the wrong goal. Instead, the Federal Government has cut more than seven regulations for every significant new regulation. After only 3 years, my Administration has cut a historic number of regulations, and we have put the brakes on an endless assault of new, costly actions by Federal agencies. Our commitment to regulatory reform stems from the simple truth that the vast majority of business owners want to do the right thing, comply with the law, and treat their workers fairly. The Federal Government ignored this reality for far too long and abused its authority to go after businesses, especially small businesses and entrepreneurs, in ways that can only be described as arbitrary and abusive.

    At the same time, we are maintaining America’s world-class standards of environmental protection. Emissions of all criteria pollutants dropped between 2016 and 2018. The United States environmental record is one of the strongest in the world and continues to have some of the cleanest air and water in the world. American Energy Independence. American energy powers our cities and towns, empowers innovators, drives our economy, and protects our sovereignty. Energy companies across the world are ready to build in our Nation, and permitting reform that cuts red tape shows that we welcome their investments. My Administration continues to support growth in the energy sector by removing unnecessary regulations and unleashing America’s vast natural and human resources. Through
    these actions, the United States is now on track to be a net exporter of crude oil and natural gas for all of 2020, a major milestone not achieved in nearly 70 years. In addition to being the world’s largest natural gas producer, we also became the world’s top crude oil producer in 2018. The records of our energy boom are widespread. Energy production has created jobs in areas of the United States where job opportunities were scarce. It also provides enormous benefits to families across the Nation by lowering energy prices. And it further distances us from geopolitical foes who wish to cause us harm. More jobs, lower costs, and American dominance—these are predictable results of our pro-energy policies.
    ******
    Today, there is hope throughout America. There is optimism that was not here before 63 million Americans asked me to work for them and drain the swamp. For decades, Washington elites told us that Americans had no choice but to accept stagnation, decay, and decline. We proved them wrong. Our economy is strong once more, and America’s role as leader of the Free World has been restored.

    America is the single greatest country in the world. We must never believe for one moment that this great Nation is destined for a diminished future. When we take hold of our freedom, and take our destiny in our hands, we choose to reject a future of American decline. My 2021 Budget sets the course for a future of continued American dominance and prosperity.

    DONALD J. TRUMP
    The White House,
    February 10, 2020.

    NOTE: Following is one of the best statements I have seen is such a document.

    ” Our commitment to regulatory reform stems from the simple truth that the vast majority of business owners want to do the right thing, comply with the law, and treat their workers fairly. The Federal Government ignored this reality for far too long and abused its authority to go after businesses, especially small businesses and entrepreneurs, in ways that can only be described as arbitrary and abusive.”

    • Just A Citizen says:

      And since I can predict at least one person claiming the comment about clean air is BS let me give you this summary from the EPA report for 2019.

      “Annual emissions estimates are used as one indicator of the effectiveness of our programs. The graph below shows that between 1980 and 2019, gross domestic product increased 182 percent, vehicle miles traveled increased 114 percent, energy consumption increased 28 percent, and U.S. population grew by 44 percent. During the same time period, total emissions of the six principal air pollutants dropped by 71 percent. The graph also shows that between 1980 and 2018, CO2 emissions increased by 15 percent.”

      The report: https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/air-quality-national-summary

  16. Just A Citizen says:

    While I generally think this Cavuto guy is a twit and needs to go, I do not see what is wrong with his emails that CNN and Dems are trying to portray as coercion.

    Time to remember that during the first 4 years of the Obama admin EVERY communication from EVERY Govt dept had to pass thru a White House approval process. Those who disobeyed were threatened with their jobs. THAT WAS coercion.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/michael-caputo-emails/index.html

  17. Fuck.

    Ok. Place your bets:

    Does Red Team replace RBG now, or wait until after the election?

    My money says they play it up as “vote for trump because he’ll flip the court and overturn Roe.” If he loses they’ll replace her in the lame duck.

    No way in hell does the bullshit hold up from Gorsuch.

    • If I’m Trump, I’m nominating the day after RBG is laid to rest. He’s been treated like shit by the Crats and the Left for his entire term, so fuck all of them. The way the MSM is talking he’s going to lose (nothing new here). Make them pay for lying. He get’s a third Scotus before the election, taking it away as a political weapon for the Left. Trump still wins in a landslide.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      A shot at putting down this “mail in ballot” bullshit. At least to the extent that to count, votes must be received NLT election day! The PA court decision the other day allowing days to go by after the election with NO proof of mailing is a guarantee votes will be found by the thousands in backseats of cars, closets in schools and dumpsters all over the land. Let’s not even talk about backrooms full of partisans filling out ballots the day AFTER the election. Barr had better get up off his ass for an emergency hearing SOON.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      If history is a true guide then the R’s will wait. Because the same smurfs will not be willing to vote. They still think they are working with a Dem Party from the 80’s.

      So if they do not vote then of course it will be an election issue. And one that will probably do more to motivate the left than Mr. Trump’s voters. Because I think they are as motivated as they can be. Thus this has the potential to push some Independents toward the D, because they will fear losing abortion. You know as well as I that the Dem and Media blitz will assure they are fearful of this. Just as the Rep side will probably try to use “voter fraud” and “2nd Amendment” as the possible victims of not filling the seat by a Rep POTUS.

      • If history is a true guide

        I don’t think there’s any history to guide us here…

        then the R’s will wait. Because the same smurfs will not be willing to vote.

        They will huff and pull and pretend to object, but when push comes to shove, they’ll fall in line.

        They still think they are working with a Dem Party from the 80’s.

        Can you clarify what you mean by this?

        So if they do not vote then of course it will be an election issue.

        It’s already an election issue. It’s been an election issue since before 2016.

        It just got pushed to the forefront.

        And one that will probably do more to motivate the left than Mr. Trump’s voters. Because I think they are as motivated as they can be.

        I completely agree.

        I think the Trump-base is dialed up to 100% engagement – and short of putting Hillary Clinton back on the ticket, I fail to see anything that could drive them to higher levels. Anything that ramps up the stakes can only help Blue Team.

        Thus this has the potential to push some Independents toward the D, because they will fear losing abortion.

        I agree.

        You know as well as I that the Dem and Media blitz will assure they are fearful of this.

        Ok, fair enough re the media blitz and Blue Team’s pushing of the agenda…. but do you think they DON’T have something to be “fearful” of regarding Roe?

        Do you not think that giving Trump another term after appointing three justices (after denying stealing one from Obama) risks overturning Roe and letting states criminalize abortion?

        If – IF – you do not believe that abortion is murder, and you believe that “pro-life” is just the government controlling women’s bodies, then do you NOT have reason for concern?

        Just as the Rep side will probably try to use “voter fraud” and “2nd Amendment” as the possible victims of not filling the seat by a Rep POTUS.

        Yup.

        I don’t know why you said “probably” though…

        • If I were the Repubs……put in a nomination right now. Today…..three hours ago.

          To Mathius: In my opinion, there is no way a conservative SCOTUS even approaches Roe. Been around too long for a change now. I am an independent and I am not afraid of losing Roe at all.

          • If I were the Repubs……put in a nomination right now. Today…..three hours ago.

            Because why should they bother to exhibit anything other than pure opportunist hypocicy?

            there is no way a conservative SCOTUS even approaches Roe.

            Roe is a bad ruling.

            Get too many originalists on the court and its dead.

            Best not to kill it 5-4, best to be decisive about it. Kill it 7-2.

            And they will.

            Look, I won’t make any promises here, but I’d wager a good amount that the 9… err.. 8 of ’em in the big Court jockey and nogotiate a fair amount betweenst themselves. There’s a lobby to kill Roe right now, and with Ginsburg out of the way, and with a new voice coming in, that calculus will be reevaluated. Maybe one more isn’t enough. But give Trump another 4 years and one more seat..? (of course, that’s going to be part of his pitch to the evangelicals).

            Been around too long for a change now.

            As for “been around too long,” I’d point you at…. ::gestures vaguely in the direction of slavery and (a lack of) civil rights::.

            I am an independent and I am not afraid of losing Roe at all.

            Why would you be? I’m pretty sure you don’t have a uterus. I doubt you have to worry much about getting pregnant.

            But make no mistake, within 24 hours of the end of Roe, abortion will be flat-out illegal in ~20 states. And Texas will be one of them.

        • Also, I see this as a blessing in disguise for the left. They were having a hard time generating momentum…..I think they generate it big time now even though they are not proud of Biden.

          • They were having a hard time generating momentum…..I think they generate it big time now even though they are not proud of Biden.

            It’s interesting… I see this as alternately lethargic (eg 2016) and rabid (ie every millennial in the country is going to vote no matter what). Honestly, I think the enthusiasm is there on the left.. though, of course, it’s not “for” Biden nearly so much as it’s “anti” Trump.

            I know that I will be voting in person. I don’t want to do it. But I don’t trust my mail-in ballot to be counted. And I live in a Blllllluuuuueeeee state, so my vote is worthless anyway (for POTUS – it has other things to vote on). I don’t know a single person my age who is “lethargic” about this election. Every single one of them is rabidly pro- or anti- Trump, and every single one of them says they’re going to vote. It remains to be seen what they actually do. But I don’t see or hear a fraction of the lethargic “they’re both awful” factions that I did in 2016. (note: talking here about young people. Older folks are a more apathetic re Biden.)

            One other thing to consider – the reason the left is always agitating for election day as a national holiday is because it would let poorer workers wage-slaves have the day off to go to the polls. With unemployment where it is, and with every single one of them concerned about their unemployment benefits, I would not be shocked to find a historically oversized turnout amongst the unemployed, skewing heavily Blue. I mean, do you vote for the guy trying to put money in your pocket today or the guy who says that if he just gives your former boss enough tax breaks, he’ll hire you back to your old job at your old shitty wage?

            Then again, I know allllll too well about premature chicken-counting.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              You want to reduce voter turnout, just make it a holiday. Better yet, make the day before a holiday as well.

            • Yes, the spousal unit and I will be voting in person as well, wearing a face mask that says “SOCIALism DISTANCING”.

              I wonder if anyone would construe that as a political statement. If so, I have many others to put on……I personally like the one that says….”Under estimate me, that’ll be fun”….I also have one that says..”SEE SNOWFLAKE! I am wearing a mask”……and a new one being made that resembles a Claymore anti personnel mine….it says “Front Toward Enemy”.

  18. Test Bolding

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Just finished two books, one on Wyatt Earp and the legend and another on Buckey O’Neil from the Rough Riders. Both books went into some serious detail how these “legends” were pretty much based on fact. Both then went into how those legends were turned on their heads over the past 60 or so years by revisionists.

      From a “modern” point of view, the Clanton’s the Lowry’s and Curly Bill are often portrayed in pseudo history as victims of the Earp’s. Poor misunderstood folks being crushed by capitalist, Republican oppression (I kid you not). The author gives excellent examples of this which I have seen and often ignored because I was pretty well grounded in the truth. Nonetheless, when the two movies came out on the 90’s, Wyatt Earp and Tombstone with Kurt Russel and Kevin Costner playing the lead character, he points to reviews of the movies where the reviewers accused the films of being a pack of lies and whitewashing the Earp’s at both Tombstone and Dodge City. They, the modern reviewers, views are so twisted they “know” for a fact that the Cantons had their hands up when the Earp’s began to murder them. portraying. “Hands Up, Don’t shoot” sound familiar?

      The interesting overview in the two books is the study, cursory, of Republican-Democrat politics in Arizona territory between 1870 and 1900. The Republicans seemed to be the progress, statehood, law and order party and the democrats the party of chaos, robbery, cattle rustling and murder. I think I understand John Ford’s “Liberty Valance” a little better now.

      If anybody is interested, I may expand on this in a couple days, want to go back and re-read some of the earlier chapters.

  19. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    I wake up this fine fall type morning to find that the “A” train on the NYC Subway system has had a derailment caused by debris on the tracks. A few minutes into the report it is let slip that the Police think it was sabotage. Someone deliberately left something on the tracks big or hard enough to cause the wheels to come off.

    The “A” is perhaps the busiest line in the City running from the extreme end of Northern Manhattan through the borough then into Brooklyn, through Queens and finally to the Rockaway Peninsula. Gum this one up and you gum up the City.

    Apparently there were few injuries but the car was totaled with the side peeled back and the repairs could take a while. Be interesting if this is Phase 2 of Antfa/BLM.

  20. We are back to threats to impeach, pack the court, make DC & PR states if Trump fills the vacancy on the court. The Dem goal is absolute permanent power and they do not care what harm they do to the country or its people. And yet Trump is the problem.

  21. This speech was given by Trump on constitution day and was labeled racist and divisive by the mainstream media:

    I’m truly honored to be here at the very first White House Conference on American History. So important. Our mission is to defend the legacy of America’s founding, the virtue of America’s heroes, and the nobility of the American character. We must clear away the twisted web of lies in our schools and classrooms and teach our children the magnificent truth about our country. We want our sons and daughters to know that they are the citizens of the most exceptional nation in the history of the world.
    To grow up in America is to live in a land where anything is possible, where anyone can rise, and where any dream can come true. All because of the immortable principles our nation’s founders inscribed nearly two and a half centuries ago. That’s why we’ve come to the National Archives, the sacred home of our national memory. In this great chamber, we preserve our glorious inheritance, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, Bill of Rights. On this very day in 1787, our founding fathers signed the Constitution at Independence Hall in Philadelphia. It was the fulfillment of a thousand years of Western civilization. Our Constitution was the product of centuries of tradition, wisdom, and experience. No political document has done more to advance the human condition or propel the engine of progress. Yet, as we gather this afternoon, a radical movement is attempting to demolish this treasured and precious inheritance. We can’t let that happen.
    The left wing mobs have torn down statues of our founders, desecrated our memorials, and carried out a campaign of violence and anarchy. Far left demonstrators have chanted the words, “America was never great.” The Left has launched a vicious and violent assault on law enforcement, the universal symbol of the rule of law in America. These radicals have been aided and abetted by liberal politicians, establishment, media, and even large corporations. Whether it is the mob on the street or the cancel culture in the boardroom, the goal is the same: to silence dissent, to scare you out of speaking the truth, and to bully Americans into abandoning their values, their heritage, and their very way of life.
    We are here today to declare that we will never submit to tyranny. We will reclaim our history and our country for citizens of every race, color, religion, and creed. The radicals burning American flags want to burn down the principles enshrined in our founding documents, including the bedrock principle of equal justice under law. In order to radically transform America, they must first cause Americans to lose confidence in who we are, where we came from, and what we believe.
    As I said at Mount Rushmore, which they would love to rip down and rip it down fast, that’s never going to happen. Two months ago, the left wing cultural revolution is designed to overthrow the American revolution. As many of you testified today, the left wing rioting and mayhem are the direct result of decades of left wing indoctrination in our schools. It’s gone on far too long. Our children are instructed from propaganda tracks like those of Howard Zinn that try to make students ashamed of their own history. The Left has warped, distorted, and defiled the American story with deceptions, falsehoods, and lies.
    There’s no better example than the New York Times totally discredited 1619 Project. This project rewrites American history to teach our children that we were founded on the principle of oppression, not freedom. Nothing could be further from the truth. America’s founding set in motion the unstoppable chain of events that abolished slavery, secured civil rights, defeated communism and fascism, and built the most fair, equal, and prosperous nation in human history.
    The narratives about America being pushed by the far left and being chanted in the streets bear a striking resemblance to the anti-American propaganda of our adversaries, because both groups want to see America weakened, derided, and totally diminished. Students in our universities are inundated with Critical Race Theory. This is a Marxist document holding that America is a wicked and racist nation, that even young children are complicit in oppression, and that our entire society must be radically transformed. Critical Race Theory is being forced into our children’s schools, it’s being imposed into workplace trainings, and it’s being deployed to rip apart friends, neighbors, and families.
    A perfect example of Critical Race Theory was recently published by the Smithsonian Institution. This document alleged that concepts such as hard work, rational thinking, and the nuclear family, and belief in God were not values that unite all Americans, but we’re instead aspects of whiteness. This is offensive and outrageous to Americans of every ethnicity and it’s especially harmful to children of minority backgrounds who should be uplifted, not disparaged. Teaching this horrible doctrine to our children is a form of child abuse in the truest sense of those words. For many years now, the radicals have mistaken American’s silence for weakness, but they’re wrong. There is no more powerful force than a parent’s love for their children, and patriotic moms and dads are going to demand that their children are no longer fed hateful lies about this country. American parents are not going to accept indoctrination in our schools, cancel culture at our work, or the repression of traditional faith, culture, and values in the public square. Not anymore.
    We embrace the vision of Martin Luther King, where children are not judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. The Left is attempting to destroy that beautiful vision and divide Americans by race, in the service of political power. By viewing every issue through the lens of race, they want to impose a new segregation and we must not allow that to happen. Critical Race Theory, the 1619 Project, and the crusade against American history is toxic propaganda. Ideological poison, that if not removed will dissolve the civic bonds that tie us together, will destroy our country. That is why I recently banned trainings in this prejudiced ideology from the federal government and banned it in the strongest manner possible.
    The only path to national unity is through our shared identity as Americans. That is why it is so urgent that we finally restore patriotic education to our schools. Under our leadership, the National Endowment for the Humanities has awarded a grant to support the development of a pro-American curriculum that celebrates the truth about our nation’s great history.
    We’re joined by some of the respected scholars involved in this project, including Professor Wilford McClay. Wilford? Please. Thank you very much, Wilford. Thank you.
    Dr. Peter Wood of the National Association of Scholars. Dr. Peter?
    And Ted Rebarber. Thank you, Ted. Thank you very much, Ted.
    Today, I’m also pleased to announce that I was soon sign an executive order establishing a national commission to promote patriotic education. It will be called the 1776 Commission.
    Thank you. It will encourage our educators to teach our children about the miracle of American history and make plans to honor the 250th anniversary of our founding. Think of that, 250 years. Recently, I also signed an executive order to establish the National Garden of American Heroes, a vast outdoor park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans who have ever lived. Today, I’m announcing a new name for inclusion. One of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence was a Patriot from Delaware. In July of 1776, the Continental Congress was deadlocked during the debate over independence. The delegation from Delaware was divided. Caesar Rodney was called upon to break the tie. Even though he was suffering from very advanced cancer, he was deathly ill, Rodney rode 80 miles through the night, through a severe thunderstorm, from Dover to Philadelphia, to cast his vote for independence.
    For nearly a century, a statue of one of Delaware’s most beloved citizens stood in Rodney Square, right in the heart of Wilmington. But this past June, Caesar Rodney’s statue was ordered removed by the mayor and local politicians as part of a radical purge of America’s founding generation. Today, because of an order I signed, if you demolish a statue without permission, you immediately get 10 years in prison.
    And there have been no statues demolished for the last four months, incredibly, since the time I signed that act. Joe Biden said nothing as to his home state’s history and the fact that it was dismantled, and dismembered, and a founding fathers statue was removed. Today, America will give this founding father, this very brave man who was so horribly treated, the place of honor he deserves. I am announcing that the statue of Caesar Rodney will be added to the National Garden of American Heroes.
    From Washington to Lincoln, from Jefferson to King, America has been home to some of the most incredible people who have ever lived. With the help of everyone here today, the legacy of 1776 will never be erased. Our heroes will never be forgotten. Our youth will be taught to love America with all of their heart and all of their soul. We will save this cherished inheritance for our children, for their children, and for every generation to come. This is a very important day. Thank you all once again for being here. Now I will sign the Constitution Day proclamation. God bless you, and God bless America. Thank you very much.

    • This speech was given by Trump on constitution day and was labeled racist and divisive by the mainstream media:

      Please provide a link to this labeling by the “mainstream media.”

  22. RE: Trump Tax Reductions Mathius, you said your taxes went up from the Trump tax reduction. Since he lowered the rates at all levels, this could only be due to the SALT changes. I too got caught up in that since I live in CA and had a triple whammy last year in that I was working, had to draw SS, and withdraw IRA funds. However, we are individual cases. For most fillers, their taxes went down. The SALT limit was to create a fairer system in that low tax states were subsidizing high tax states. One of your frequent complaints is that the blue states subsidize red states. Well this is the same but in reverse.

    Biden had promised to restore the Trump cuts. This will slow the economy and reverse the trend of bringing jobs back on shore. As has been shown many times, increasing taxes does not increase revenues as people and corporations find ways to reduce their tax burdens.

    • Since he lowered the rates at all levels, this could only be due to the SALT changes.

      I was referring to the hit from SALT.

      The SALT limit was to create a fairer system in that low tax states were subsidizing high tax states.

      Subsidizing, huh?

      Well… let’s just have a looksie, shall we?

      Now… explain to me who is subsidizing whom?

      It looks to me like the low tax states were always (and continue to be) subsidized by the larger and wealthier and higher tax states.. just not to the full extent that they would have been had they not had SALT to operate as a kind of tax shelter.

      This is very much like complaining that you are subsidizing a billionaire because he’s using a tax shelter to reduce his tax from $10mm to $9mm. Well, no, maybe he’s not paying “as much as he should be,” but the flow of money sure as hell isn’t from you to him.

      Oh, and, by the way, on a per capita basis, it’s Blue for the top 9 spots:

      One of your frequent complaints is that the blue states subsidize red states. Well this is the same but in reverse.

      Actually.

      This ISN’T my complaint.

      Blue States subsidize red states. That’s just a simple fact. But my problem isn’t with this fact.

      I am happy to continue to have my state subsidize Alabama or Missouri or some kind of uninhabited region like “Idaho.”

      No, my objection is to the fact that the recipient states act like they aren’t recipients and pull crap like the above where they act like the aggrieved party when they don’t get as much of OUR money as they think they should.

      THEY are beggars. And they act like they are doing us the favor by taking our money.

      Biden had promised to restore the Trump cuts. This will slow the economy and reverse the trend of bringing jobs back on shore. As has been shown many times, increasing taxes does not increase revenues as people and corporations find ways to reduce their tax burdens.

      We could debate this all day.

      But, I think, the cleanest way of putting it is this:
      Blue Team: Tax and spend
      Red Team: Tax Democrats as much as possible, redistribute as much wealth to Red states and the rich as possible, and spend (stupidly).

      • Against a national average of $1,935 in intergovernmental spending per American, red states receive just $1,879. Blue states get considerably more, at $2,124 per resident. Purple states see the least of their money returned to them per capita, at just $1,770.
        States Population InterGov. InterGov. Per Capita
        Total Red State 96,086,631 $180,551,551,000 $1,879
        Total Purple State 77,676,459 $137,532,631,000 $1,771
        Total Blue State 134,982,448 $286,776,111,000 $2,125
        Grand Total 312,471,695 $604,860,293,000 $1,936

        https://bongino.com/liberals-resurrect-myth-that-blue-states-subsidize-red-states

  23. Unions & the wealth gag Unions will no address the wealth gap. Many things contribute to the wealth gap (WG) but is basically boils down to too many workers and not enough quality jobs. We developed a tax and regulation structure that punished business thus driving manufacturing overseas. This started in the 1980s when everybody talked about an information and service society. Domestic manufacturers were faced with all the OSHA, EPA, and HR regulations plus parole, corporate income taxes not to mention state and local taxes. We did not even allow the companies to repatriate overseas earning without substantial taxation. On top of that we frequently had no import duties on foreign goods or a national sales or VAT tax equivalent to the corporate taxes our corporations paid. Thus it was advantageous to move the high paying manufacturing jobs overseas.

    On the labor side, we had virtually unlimited immigration that depressed wages and jobs for or service and other entry level citizens. Even the high tech jobs were not immune as we imported lots of H1B and other tech workers that displaced domestic labor at lower wages. Thus we eroded the middle class.

    To add more insult to the issue, we encouraged more of our students to follow college prep class in high school and decimated the industrial arts classes. I was told by our local shop teacher that the school could no longer afford the insurance to have kids use power tools in shop class. (Side note: In my home town area, one of the local schools had the kids design and then build a spec house. They were involved in all aspects, permitting, excavation, foundation, timber construction, roofing, finishing, marketing and sales.) At the college level, we educate students in women’s studies, white supremacy, and a host of other worthless degrees and then wonder why we have BB & BA educated waiters and waitresses. Meanwhile, we have a shortage of machinists, carpenters, plumbers and mechanics.

    Trump has been addressing all these issues but foremost the immigration and job repatriation problems. Biden will only return us to the former status quo thus continuing the decline of the middle class and increasing the wealth gap. On the WG specifically, it has been declining since Trump came into office, mostly for minority groups but all groups have seen real wage increases.

  24. Climate Change We have much bigger problems than climate change to deal with. Climate change is another hoax perpetrated on weak minded people. It is a lie that is propagated by the left and the MSM to gain power over the people. While there have been mild variations in temperature, there is no evidence the system will run away with itself. The only indications we have of this happening are the models which failed to predict the pause for the last 20 years despite the ever increasing concentration of CO2. Thus the models are not validated and have no predictive power. Therefore we should stop wasting money on this failed theory and on CO2 mitigation methods. Solar and wind will not solve the problem and will lead to more issues. If we stopped using carbon based fuels today, we would see a reduction in global temperatures of 0.17C by 2100. For now we should go with the cheapest form of energy we can find, currently natural gas. In the long term we should look to develop thorium reactors.

    One of the best moves Trump has made is getting us to energy independence. This is something I argued with BF about 10 years ago. We no longer are beholden to the gulf states, thus can address the security issues there dispassionately. We are free to walk away at any moment. This has to be a major part of the recent peace deals in the ME. These gulf states now realize they cannot rely on us to protect them from Iran so they are looking to the next strongest ally they can find, which happens to be Israel.

    This transitions us into World Affairs Mathius thinks we are less respected now abroad. Is that true or is it a reflection of all the lies told by the MSM and D-party about Trump? Frankly, I agree with Trump’s moves to bring troops home. WWII is long over, we do not need a large force in Germany to defend the non-existent Iron Curtain. If anything the IC has moved several countries east. Furthermore, I view Russia as an adversary not as an enemy. Had the Ds not pulled the Russian hoax bit, Trump might have found some common ground to work with them on some global issues. The primary baddie in the world is currently China. In the 70’s Nixon cuddled up to China to essentially encircle the USSR. We need to use the same tactic to counter China. India is already at odds with China. If we added some SE Asia countries to our fold, we would have China surrounded and could possibly slow or counter their move to global hegemony.

    Trump did the right thing in demanding the NATO countries pony up their 2%. Collections have improved but Europe despite their wealth still could not fight a major war for more than a few days w/o our help. With Germany reliant on Russian energy, they are becoming a vassal state.

    China remains a work in progress. Most of the country now sees the danger in relying on China for strategic commodities. Again something I warned BF about but it was always the money with him. I also warned BF about US companies being forced to site R&D facilities in China thus accelerating their education and access to our technology. China was ripping off our trade secrets and technology here with the aid of the Clintons and others. Trump’s approach is to push for fair trade not free trade. If the trade is fair, then it is free.

    D13 can address the military aspects of China better than I. They are a nuclear power and do have a large land army. They are building navel and air power. More concerning would be asymmetric aspects to their military. These include blinding or destroying our satellites, an EMP attack that sends us back to the dark ages, financial systems attack, power grid attacks, bio-warfare, etc. We may have just had a taste of the latter. Next time it will not be just TP we run out of.

    I look forward to continuing this conversation.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Good job. We need to “cuddle up” to Russia to thwart China but If I am thinking like a strategist, I would say teh place to lay teh blame for teh Russia insanity is with CHINA. They are teh primary beneficiary in two ways. The anti Russian Cold war sentiment drove the Russians closer to China to poke us in the eye and it distracted us (and still does) from the real threat.

      We could easily re-engage Russia, Putin is not stupid he is no Stalin. he knows that the Chinese have their eyes on Eastern Russia. If they are bold enough to take the South China Sea. to march into Hong Kong, they are bold enough to make a move some day (maybe post Putin) on Mother Russia and all those hydrocarbons. .

  25. Mathius, I know in the past few months I have been harsh on you. It is because you are an intelligent person but a lost soul. I will try to address some of the issues with your perceptions of President Trump but this will take several posts. First I will address Trump himself. Victor Davis Hanson likens Trump to Shane, the gunfighter you need but in the end must leave. Trump was hired because a large part of the country saw and smelled something rotten in DC. It had gotten too big, corrupt and overpowering. Politicians campaigned on fixing things and then did nothing all the while enriching themselves. Wages were stagnant, manufacturing jobs scarce, service jobs increasingly filled by immigrants, many illegal, the middle class was declining; we were in endless wars and meddling in foreign affairs that were none of our business. We needed drastic change which could only come from an outsider with a fresh view.

    We did not hire Trump to be nice, to say all the “correct” Harvard Law School words. We hired a gunslinger to fix our problems. As with such men, he is blunt obnoxious, a braggart, and a bully. But he gets things done that needed to be done. He is more at home with construction workers than elite coastal socialites or hoity-toity Harvard/Yale lawyers. In his younger days, he was a rich alpha male with all the attractions that has. To build his business, he created the Trump brand which he had to sell which he did with gusto. For all his faults, he did built a great business in a very difficult city to work. How many short cuts he took, I do not know, but unlike John Gotti, he did not get prosecuted for any major crimes. Along the way he opined on the state of politics in the US; opinions which have not changed unlike many chameleons in politics.

    Four years ago, I advised you to calibrate Trump. He is different and you cannot measure him using the same tools you use to measure other politicians. This is not bad just different. He does not select his words well but does express ideas that are well grounded in American life. You cannot parse his words like a Harvard lawyer and get to the meaning behind them. You must listen to what he actually says, all of it not phrases out of context. Elitists on the coasts purposely misconstrue what he says but the common folk in the midlands get it. What he says is not racist, sexist, homophobic, or xenophobic. That is the elitist interpretation, e.g., the invented dog whistles.

    Trump is a typical kid from Queens. He fights back when attacked which is unusual for the normally docile Republicans, which is one of the reasons we like him. One thing you can say for sure, the attacks and lies about Trump have been relentless for the last four years. They call him a fascist because he is a nationalist, but he does not support socialism, state control of industry, or over regulation. He does support individualism, federalism, and capitalism. They call him racist but reading his speeches and listening to his actual words he does not say anything actually racist. He does support traditional Americanism, traditional American history, love of country, and tolerance. He has disavowed the white nationalists and the left wing anarchists. But because he does not buy into or kowtow to the radical left wing revisionists, he is labeled a racist by the very people I consider racists. He is called a xenophobe because he is against illegal immigration. In fact he supports legal immigration if it is beneficial to the US and its citizens.

    That is all for tonight.

    • But he gets things done that needed to be done

      Would you please tell me what he has done that has addressed these problems?

      You cannot parse his words like a Harvard lawyer and get to the meaning behind them. You must listen to what he actually says, all of it not phrases out of context.

      His mouth-noises have no meaning. He will say one thing and the exact opposite a moment later. He consistently seems like a child giving an oral book report on a book he has failed to read.

      I believe it is YOU who project meaning onto his utterances.

      Like a Rorschach test, he says all of the things in a big jumble, and it washes over you, and you hear the things you want to hear.

      Words are not words, sentences are not sentences, if the meaning cannot be defined in any kind of coherent and consistent manner. It is not “communication” if I have to apply twelve layers of interpretation into what he is saying, and I arrive at conclusions at objective odds to the underlying words themselves.

      Elitists on the coasts purposely misconstrue what he says but the common folk in the midlands get it.

      Maybe.

      But I’m pretty smart, and I can wrap my head around a lot things.

      I speak 2 languages, I’ve read thousands of books.

      I seem to have little trouble understanding the words you say, nor taking their meaning as intended.

      Perhaps the problem isn’t that we “coastal elites” “purposefully misconstrue” what he says.
      Perhaps it’s that “what he says” is a jump of words without a coherent structure or thematic cohesion. Perhaps the problem isn’t that we “misunderstand” him, but rather that you “understand” him in the first place.

      If I use a randomness generator to generate a block of text, and I read that text and say “SEE! HERE, if you read it this very weird and complicated and nonsensical way and ignore 4/5ths of the words, and interpret it though google translate to French and back to English, you can see here, that it’s telling us the secrets of Trump’s tax returns!” Are you going to accept that? Or would you stand your ground and say “that’s gibberish, and you’re projecting.” Why would I be right in this situation and you wrong?

      What he says is not racist, sexist, homophobic, or xenophobic. That is the elitist interpretation, e.g., the invented dog whistles.

      It is certainly an interpretation. I’m not so sure it’s “elitist” as much as “people who don’t like Trump”-ist.

      But it is very interesting to me that you can divine meaning in is words and somehow know the truth of what he speaks – as do, somehow, all non-coastal-elites – but when people who don’t agree with you try to read into the concepts of “what he is really saying,” somehow they’re wrong and imagining things.

      Why are THEY imagining things, but YOU are right?

      I remember a documentary some years back.. they had a devout rabbi and a devout priest and a devout Imam in a room to review and interpret some text from the Old Testament. They’d disagree, and the host kept asking questions like “why are you right and he’s wrong”? And the answer they kept coming back to was “faith.” But that felt so hollow for me… why is “your faith” right when “his faith” is wrong?

      It seems to me that you have FAITH that Trump says what you want him to be saying. And others have FAITH that Trump is blowing dog whistles. And you are insisting that your FAITH is the TRUE FAITH. And I’m just sitting here saying “you’re all attempting to interpret random noise.”

  26. Reading the stuff about the RBG replacement subject, I can’t help but to ask one question….

    If Obama had the Crats leading the Senate, would they have replaced her at this late stage?

    My answer is, YES, they 100% would have moved forward. Hence, I think Trump should nominate and the Senate should move ahead. This doesn’t mean a vote should be taken before election day, but the process should move forward.

    Other thoughts on the subject:

    The numerous threats of this and that show exactly what the Left is all about, do as we say or else. Well, bring on your “or else” bullshit then.

    I haven’t seen the Left cry this much since 2016, after Trump won. Wait till after this election, cities will flood with Liberal tears. But they won’t put out the fires.

    • (preemptive disclaimer: views are my own. I cannot, and do not pretend to, speak on behalf of all democrats, liberals, the Democratic party, or the reanimated corpse of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.)

      If Obama had the Crats leading the Senate, would they have replaced her at this late stage?

      Yes.

      There was no precedent to do otherwise.

      I’ll remind you that a President is elected for FOUR years, and that fourth year (2016) still belonged to Obama.

      And the Senate still had an obligation to hear his nominee. They could have rejected him. But they had an obligation to hold the hearing, which they failed to do.

      BUT, to be clear, the FAULT with the Red Team for appointing a replacement for RBG is really that they stole the seat from Obama in 2016, setting a precedent that they didn’t hold to in 2020. The “fault” is that they pretended to stand on some moral principle of “the people should have a say” when it was convenient and then, hypocritically, decided that didn’t apply when it was to their benefit.

      It’s NOT that they shouldn’t do what they’re going to do NOW. It’s that they SHOULDN’T have done what they did THEN.

      Hence, I think Trump should nominate and the Senate should move ahead.

      I think he should.

      Shitty as it may be, he’s the President. That’s his job.

      He was elected for four years, not three. Four. That includes the next several months.

      And the Senate is charged with holding a hearing on his candidate. Which they should do. And, should that candidate be appropriate, they should approve.

      That doesn’t make McConnell any less of a total shit bag for stealing the seat in 2016.

      But, just because he did the wrong thing then, doesn’t mean the precedent has to hold.

      I can be pissed about the outcome, and the sheer magnitude of the hypocrisy, but “Mathius is angry” isn’t a valid legal theory I’m aware of.

      • In 2016, if Trump was Prez and the Crats had the Senate, the outcome would have been the same. But regardless, Trump can only nominate, the rest is on the Senate.

        I find it concerning that abortion seems to be on the line. Why you ask? Because it was made legal by SCOTUS, not the government. The mantra is that if SCOTUS can give it can take away. If this is true, then it was never an actual Right to begin with.

        I watched a video of Biden talking on this subject throughout the years. He flipped and flopped like a fish out of water. Don’t do it, then do it (Garland), now don’t do it again. So if McConnel is wrong, then the same can be said about Biden and everyone who bitched in 2016. Thats politics.

        It will be fun watching the Lefty media squirm for the next couple months. 😀

        • In 2016, if Trump was Prez and the Crats had the Senate, the outcome would have been the same.

          Probably.

          Maybe. The Dems tend to have a bit more respect for the rule of law and a sense of decency and reciprocity rather than the Republicans mantra of “win at all costs.” 😛

          But, yes, assuming the Blue Team had done this to Red President in 2016, I would be saying then what I am saying now: the President is president for four years, not three. Knock it off and do your jobs.

          I find it concerning that abortion seems to be on the line.

          Roe isn’t the ONLY thing on the line. I seem to recall SCOTUS appointing Bush, too. And we’re almost certainly headed into a contested election when Trump gets his ass kicked and cried fraud, a Trump-stacked-Court is a problem.

          I find it concerning that abortion seems to be on the line.

          I can’t speak for others, but I feel that I’ve been quite vocal in supporting the AIMS of Roe, but rejecting the RULING as judicial overreach.

          Consequently, overturning Roe gets a heavy sigh from me, but my reluctant stamp of approval.

          I watched a video of Biden talking on this subject throughout the years. He flipped and flopped like a fish out of water. Don’t do it, then do it (Garland), now don’t do it again. So if McConnel is wrong, then the same can be said about Biden and everyone who bitched in 2016. Thats politics.

          I know this is hard for you.

          I’m going try this again, reeeeeaaaaaaallllly slowly:

          If you do the right thing, that is good.

          If you do the wrong thing, that is bad.

          It may shock you to learn that Biden was not in control of the Senate in 2016, nor in 2020. He can say whatever he likes, but he doesn’t get to make the choices.

          You know who did get to make those choices? Mitch McConnell. And he CHOSE to do the wrong thing when it helped him and the right thing when it helped him.

          And doing the RIGHT thing now does not wash off the stain of the wrong thing. It does not right that wrong. And he should acknowledge that he made up a bullshit excuse because winning was more important to him than any kind of respect for doing the right thing.

          And YOU should not play down the fact that “your side” essentially cheated in order to steal a seat on the Supreme Court.

          YOU should be pissed that “your side” plays dirty and lies and cheats and is hypocritical and is staggeringly dishonorable. And you should not pretend that it is only your hated rivals who act this way.

        • Abortion is a state issue. It should never have been elevated to a federal court given right.

          • AAbortion is a state issue. It should never have been elevated to a federal court given right.

            Abortion is an issue of personal bodily autonomy. It should never have been elevated to the government.

            But since Red Team (and their bible thumping allies) are so hell-bent on controlling women’s uteri, it had to go to the courts.

            I still contend the courts got it wrong. But the bigger problem is that they had to vote on it in the first place.

            • Just A Citizen says:

              Abortion laws predated the Evangelicals becoming a political force. BS political rhetoric from you aside.

              • Abortion laws predated the Evangelicals becoming a political force.

                “Politicians have been wrong on X for centuries, so we can’t criticize anyone for holding that position today.”

                I don’t care WHEN the bible thumpers decided a lump of cells was a person, and I don’t care, now do I care why. They hold that position NOW, and they are NOW one of the main driving forces behind the efforts to ban abortion access.

                If they weren’t so hell-bent on imposing sharia law*, we could eliminate a large chunk of this country’s problems. Not all. But a healthy chunk.

                *oh, I’m sorry, do we not call it that when Christians do it? Well, I’m going to stick with it.

            • You make no sense. If the courts are wrong then the states can regulate abortion.

              It has always amused me that the party of “science” says that life does not start at conception, that sex is fluid,…

              • You make no sense. If the courts are wrong then the states can regulate abortion.

                Rights not reserved to the Federal government are reserved to the states OR THE PEOPLE.

                Not everything is appropriate to be regulated by the state. Just because it CAN doesn’t mean it SHOULD.

                These are rights duly reserved to the people.

                It’s not a hard concept.

                It has always amused me that the party of “science” says that life does not start at conception,

                Objection. Strawman.

                It’s not that “life” doesn’t begin at conception. I think you’ll be hard-pressed to find an intelligent person on the pro-choice side who says that. The question is (A) what rights (if any) does a fetus have and when and (B) what rights does the mother have and (C) how do A and B interact and (D) whose right is it to make this decision?

                See how it’s a bit more complicated than “hurr-duff-librulls-stupid”?

                that sex is fluid,…

                Again, wrong.

                Sex is not the fluid one.

                GENDER is.

                Sex is biology. XX or XY. Or, perhaps, penis or no penis, if you prefer.

                Gender is about identity.

                And the idea that people should have to fit neatly into one of two pretty little boxes designed by prissy evangelicals in the victorian era is, at last, coming to an end.

              • Only because you changed the definition of the word.

              • Zygote
                Fetus
                Infant
                Child
                Adolescent
                Adult
                Geriatric

                Life is a continuum from conception to death. The DNA is fixed and unique. To claim that the life of a fetus or zygote can be terminated at will is no different than terminating the life of an infant or child. The only difference is the environment. Abortion is terminating the life of a living and unique human being and no amount of euphemistic word craft can change that.

              • The DNA is fixed and unique.

                False and False.

                To claim that the life of a fetus or zygote can be terminated at will is no different than terminating the life of an infant or child.

                That’s only because you are missing half of the equation.

                You are focusing on the “it dies” portion.

                Do you have the right to kick an unwanted squatter off your property, even if it means he is outside in the middle of a blizzard and will surely die? Yes, you do. You know why? Because it’s YOUR property.

                The question isn’t – and really has never been – “do I have the right to kill this fetus?” Lots of people get this wrong (on both sides of the debate). In fact, it’s the prevailing idiocy, particularly because your side insists on this strawman weak-man position and also because, well, it’s complicated and can be hard to grasp.

                The question is “do I have the right to control MY body and evict something – yes, even a living being that will surely die – out of it?”

                That’s a far more difficult question to answer.

                Even if you, I’m sure, will reach the conclusion that the answer is “no,” for a host of extenuating and contrived reasons, you’ll have to agree that there’s SOME right there that’s conflicting.

                The problem – and I don’t know why I keep going over this here since it never seems to get anywhere – is that the debate is NOT, as you and your side insist on portraying it “murder vs don’t-murder.” Nor is it as “my side” insists on portraying it “control women’s uteri vs self-determination.” (I am as guilty of anyone of this last simplification, though often intended as hyperbole). No, the question is (“woman’s right to “own” her body and evict unwanted foreign entities, even if that means a biologically human life will end” vs “the right of that foreign entity to live, even if it means forcing a woman to play biological host and undergo labor against her will.”

                Both are terrible outcomes.

                But it’s not so simple.

                So it’s not “a fetus or zygote can be terminated at will. It’s that they can be evicted at will. And, unfortunately, that means they die.

                The only difference is the environment.

                That’s somewhat correct. Or, at least, correct enough for this conversation.

                Because the point isn’t about some supposed right to murder babies. It’s about the right to not have things in your body against your will.

                So the right to evict is meaningless when the entity is not inside you. How can you evict a squatter who has already left? But you never had the right to kill it, so you still don’t have the right to kill it. See how that works?

                Abortion is terminating the life of a living and unique human being and no amount of euphemistic word craft can change that.

                “Abortion” is poor terminology. Or perhaps it has been co-opted. I’d have to check the etymology.

                Abort means to stop or end, but whether it refers to ending the pregnancy or the life, I don’t know.

                Regardless, yes, it results in death.

                Whether that clump of cells has rights, whether it’s meaningfully “human,” whether whether whether… who knows. We could debate all day.

                But I ask this: If I am starving, even on the verge of death, can barge into your home and demand supper at your table, and demand room and board for nine months? Or can you kick me out? Even if I die? You have no right to kill me. If I leave, you still have no right to kill me. But you do have the right to control your home and say “no, leave,” regardless of the consequence for me.

                ——————————————

                The only difference is the environment.

                Mathius repeats an old thought experiment:

                You find yourself in an in-vitro fertilization clinic which is ablaze. The place is coming down any second. There is an exit to your left and to your right, equidistant. To the left is a four-year-old child. She is right next to the exit, but too hysterical to open the door and flee. To your right is a self-contained refrigeration unit containing hundreds of fertilized embryos awaiting implantation.

                You can go left, grab the child, and escape, but the building will collapse before you can go back for the embryos. The embryos will all die.

                You can go right, wheel the embryos out the door, but the building will collapse before you can go back for the child. The child will die.

                Those are your own options. You will survive either way. There are no cutesy escapes here. No “I call to the child to follow me and we all escape.” No “I grab a fire extinguisher and..” No, this is a trolley problem. A or B. Left or right. Child or fridge full of embryos.

                So, tell me, which do you rescue?

                There are hundreds of fertilized embryos in that fridge. If each one is a full human being equal to any other, then it’s an easy call. Save hundreds of people and let the child die. Right? I mean, it’s a terrible choice, a horrible decision to have to make. But at the end of the day, it really is simple. One child or hundreds.

                I mean, the only difference is the environment, right? That’s what you said.

                So how could you make any choice OTHER than saving the hundreds? Right?

                So do you let the little girl burn to death while you rescue the fridge full of cells?

              • Why do ya’ll even argue about this?

              • Why do ya’ll even argue about this?

                I’m a Jew. I can’t help myself.

                Arguing is in my bones.

                Give me something to argue about, and I’ll argue about it.

                Hell, tell me that Longhorns are better than Shorthorns (is that a thing?) and I will spend 6 hours researching the pros and cons of the various types of cattle and write you a 3,000-word essay on why you’re wrong.

              • It’s my property and I can do with it what I want! And so they justified slavery.

      • I think he should. Shitty as it may be, he’s the President. That’s his job. He was elected for four years, not three. Four. That includes the next several months. And the Senate is charged with holding a hearing on his candidate. Which they should do. And, should that candidate be appropriate, they should approve. That doesn’t make McConnell any less of a total shit bag for stealing the seat in 2016. But, just because he did the wrong thing then, doesn’t mean the precedent has to hold. I can be pissed about the outcome, and the sheer magnitude of the hypocrisy, but “Mathius is angry” isn’t a valid legal theory I’m aware of.

        Picture this……the Colonel, after reading the above, does the Snoopy Happy Dance. Congrats to Mathius for remaining consistent. Well said, my young friend, well said.

        It’s NOT that they shouldn’t do what they’re going to do NOW. It’s that they SHOULDN’T have done what they did THEN. Correct again.

  27. Ray Hawkins says:

    My thoughts on the passing of Ginsburg and next steps. There is well established history of nominating and voting on Justices in election years. Some have been incredibly contentious such as LBJ nominating Associate Justice Fortas to replace Chief Justice Warren. That one broke bad. The 2016 play of the McConnell Senate refusing to hold hearings on Garland citing the so-called Biden Rule – first – there is no Biden Rule. It does not exist. That was a hijack of out of context remarks by Biden regarding suggesting delaying the process during an election year “political season”. Thankfully it never became a rule. More on that in a sec.

    The McConnell play was partisanship at its worst. Now, with a vacancy, Democrats are expectantly losing their minds. Predictably, Trump will nominate a Justice and McConnell will do everything in his power to bring the nomination to vote. It’d mean, like it or not, he’s doing his job THIS TIME. No one will ever claim McConnell has too much integrity. Sorry. The rub is Democrats will want him to do the wrong thing again because it may now benefit them.

    Where does it end? Elections have consequences. I dont like Trump either, but continual goal post moving and one upmanship isn’t the answer either. The President is elected to do the job for 4 years and makes many other decisions that impact us for years. We should not set arbitrary malleable guard rails (there’d be no end game). It sucks but thats how it works.

    • Boy… that sure sounds a lot like what I said…

      [Gman] Hence, I think Trump should nominate and the Senate should move ahead.

      I think he should.

      Shitty as it may be, he’s the President. That’s his job.

      He was elected for four years, not three. Four. That includes the next several months.

      And the Senate is charged with holding a hearing on his candidate. Which they should do. And, should that candidate be appropriate, they should approve.

      That doesn’t make McConnell any less of a total shit bag for stealing the seat in 2016.

      But, just because he did the wrong thing then, doesn’t mean the precedent has to hold.

      I can be pissed about the outcome, and the sheer magnitude of the hypocrisy, but “Mathius is angry” isn’t a valid legal theory I’m aware of.

      What’s bothering me, I guess, is that there doesn’t seem to be any acknowledgement by the right that they did anything wrong in 2016.

      To do the “right thing” in 2020 is all well and good, but there should be some acknowledgement that they did the WRONG thing in 2016. It’s grating that, in 2016, they pretended (although we all knew it was a sham) to be standing on high principles when denying Obama his right to nominate. But now they act like it’s no big deal and they’re just doing what they should when it’s convenient for them.

      Certainly – CERTAINLY – many on the left are doing the opposite (decrying it then, but insisting on it now.. though they have, at least, some ground to stand on by insisting that a “precedent” has been set and/or that the letting Biden appoint a liberal justice would “even the score”.. though I find these arguments lacking). But where is the acknowledgement that the right totally screwed the left and is pretending that they are the aggrieved party?

      • The Republican Senate screwed Obama in 2016. No doubt, but it’s not like anybody in DC is lacking in the screwing the other party department. We can of course thank Harry Reid for what he did by making things as they are (majority vote vs. 60). Why did he do that again?

        • Translated:

          “Yes, the Republicans screwed the Democrats in 2016. The Red and Blue teams screw each other all the time and have forever.”

          …..

          …..

          …..

          “But it’s all Blue Teams fault.”

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Mathius

        Because they did not do anything wrong. Period.

        What was wrong was the excuses/reasons given. The “Biden rule” for example. That was a political ploy which gives the other side leverage later by laying the hypocrite card.

        But stonewalling the nomination was not unprecedented.

      • What’s bothering me, I guess, is that there doesn’t seem to be any acknowledgement by the right that they did anything wrong in 2016.

        You are wrong here, sir. Not only did I condemn in on here but I do not know of a single conservative friend that I have that thought McConnell’s move was correct. It was wrong then and it would be wrong now.

        • Well, I didn’t mean you – personally – you’re a pretty honorable guy with his head screwed on straight.

          Don’t suppose you’d be willing to copy/paste some of those friends of yours in here so I can see what they have to say about the McConnell moves then-vs-now?

          • Sure…..I am sure that if I write and ask them, they would respond…..

            • I would post what I’m seeing on the left, but well, honestly, it’s not worth it. It’s just what you’d expect… screeds about the dishonor and shittiness of McConnell/Trump and co… verbatim quotes from 2016 where they swore they wouldn’t do this… pledges to vote the bastards out… and…..

              Well, the last one is little heartbreaking.. RBG, whether you agreed with her or not, dedicated her life to the service of the country.. and it was her dying wish that she not be replaced by Trump. It’s just sad for her to have spent her whole life doing something only for her death to mean much of it gets torn down.

              Then again, as someone else said:https://i.redd.it/lu1a9rbeq4o51.jpg

              • Just A Citizen says:

                AMEN.

                Saw a story on this which explained that she was going to retire during Mr.Obama”s term but she wanted to be replaced by Mrs. Clinton. Her BIG mistake. Which is why, in my opinion, she did not quit last year when she knew she was doomed. She was deliberately trying to prevent Trump and R’s from replacing her. Now with all the criticism about R behavior, and D’s, how about for RBG???

              • RBG, in 2016, said that she thought that the Senate should move forward on Garland. Fair enough.

                AS the Left likes to say, “Never let a crisis go to waste”. It works both ways.

  28. Good by summer hello fall.

  29. Ray Hawkins says:

    In reference to JAC posting of a grossly misleading Redstate piece….

    “I proudly stand with my Republican colleagues in our shared belief — our advice and consent — that we should not vote on any nominee until the next president is sworn into office.” – 2016 Ted Cruz

    “In this instance, the American people voted. They elected Donald Trump. A big part of the reason they elected Donald Trump is because of the Scalia vacancy and they wanted principle constitutionalists on the court,” – 2020 Ted Cruz

    In so far as I can tell – its the same Ted Cruz – now offering some nonsense to glaze offer his own conflicting/opposing statements. My overall view doesn’t change – POTUS and Senate can and should do their jobs. They did not do their jobs in 2016. They want you to forget that they are unprincipled shitbags – the Democrats are falling over themselves now trying to claim that low ground.

    Not sure what exit polls are informing Ted that ensuring a continuity of originalists was a big part of why Trump was elected – I cannot find anything substantive to corroborate that.

  30. Mathius says: Rights not reserved to the Federal government are reserved to the states OR THE PEOPLE. Not everything is appropriate to be regulated by the state. Just because it CAN doesn’t mean it SHOULD. These are rights duly reserved to the people. It’s not a hard concept.

    Of course, you are talking about “we the people” of each state, yes?

    • Of course, you are talking about “we the people” of each state, yes?

      I do not acknowledge the validity of these things you call “states.”

      Do you mean “subordinate component districts of the federal government”?

  31. Hell, tell me that Longhorns are better than Shorthorns (is that a thing?) and I will spend 6 hours researching the pros and cons of the various types of cattle and write you a 3,000-word essay on why you’re wrong

    Yes, sir, there is a difference between longhorns and shorthorns. A Longhorn is a breed of beef cattle, having long horns, bred in Texas and other parts of southwest united states while shorthorn is one of a breed of cattle, originating in England, with distinctively short horns.

    Ps: I do not like short horn beef.

  32. WASHINGTON, D.C.—In anticipation of Trump’s upcoming announcement of who he will nominate to the Supreme Court, the Democrats have posted a nationwide job listing for believable accusers to tarnish the reputation of whoever Trump nominates. The best candidates from all applicants will be invited to a casting call in D.C. to show off their “believable accusation” ability.

    “We know that whoever Trump nominates will be an evil, mean, bad person,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. “That’s just the kind of man Trump is. He hangs around evil, mean, bad people and he nominates them too. To prove this and save our democracy, we are hiring several believable witnesses to accuse Trump’s nominee of whatever they probably did.”

    Listings have been purchased on ZipRecruiter, Monster, LinkedIn, and Craigslist.

    Interested candidates will have just a few days to submit their applications before the Senate hearing. At the casting call, they will be judged on their ability to cry on command while telling a horrific story of abuse on camera.

    “We need brave patriots to step up and save our country by destroying the life of this nominee,” said Nancy Pelosi before pausing awkwardly. “um… Good morning! Sunday

  33. Just A Citizen says:

    This goes for all agencies at many levels.

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/09/21/924487/

  34. A bitterSWEET night for me. Made the drive to Toledo for the funeral of my niece’s 2 yr old son who lost his battle to cancer. And what happened enroute? Found myself in the middle of the TRUMP RALLY at Toledo Express Airport. Hadn’t started yet on the way thru but on the way back we heard him in the distance, heard the crowd in the distance, and saw him on a jumbotron near the road. Place was packed from the looks of all the cars parked on the roadside for miles. I had no idea he was going to be there tonight. Pretty freakin cool. My kids were laughing at me I was so excited.

  35. There is alot of unhinged Lefty’s out there calling for violence etc. if the RBG seat is attempted to be filled by Republicans. It’s rather strange to read and hear people who claim Trump is a Fascist while acting exactly like Fascists.

    The fun continues.

  36. the reason the left is always agitating for election day as a national holiday is because it would let poorer workers wage-slaves

    Mathius, this post (by you) has been bothering me for two days now. You drew a line through poorer workers and replaced it with “wage slaves”. Would you enlighten me as to your selection and definition of “wage slaves”, please sir.

    • Mathius, this post (by you) has been bothering me for two days now.

      Huzzah!

      Would you enlighten me as to your selection and definition of “wage slaves”, please sir.

      The term, generally, means someone who depends on wages, but more specifically someone who is in total and immediate dependence.

      The implication is that the person does not have (cannot establish) any savings, cannot afford a strike, cannot afford a day off, cannot afford to lose the job, and lacks the ability to attain better circumstances, etc. When your relationship with capital is so catastrophicly unequal that you can lose everything for even a momentary hiccup whereas they will replace you at the drop of a hat, you don’t have any choice. You must do what they say, when they say it, how they say it… or starve.

      In reference to what I was talking about, if going to the pole means taking off from work for an hour, you (retired) or I (flexible) have the optionality to do so. But the guy working some menial job for minimum wage does not. Not only might his employer opt not to let him have the time off, but even if they did, it would be unpaid and the loss of that money might be catastrophic to him. You or I can afford to lose an hours worth of income. A “wage slave” cannot. As such, he has effectively no CHOICE in the matter. He is effectively owned and controlled by his employer.

      Put more succinctly: a “wage slave” is a wage earner who does what they have to because they have to because their low wages have kept them a hair away from poverty and their easy replaceability robs them of any leverage. They are, therefore, at the total mercy of their employers.

      (ducks for cover)

      • Here’s the thing. You know, The Thing… Where you see a poor soul with no option to not work even one hour, I see a person who is living above their means. And he probably has more than the basics. I don’t care if the guy has to work 2 jobs, many people do. No one is a slave these days. No sympathy for that guy.

      • If we could keep Crats from over regulating and raising taxes all the time, we could have higher wages on a regular basis.

        As far as voting, absentee works well, so that’s bunk.

        • “If only we let the rich cut corners and make more money, I’m certain that they would be more generous to their poor workers who have no leverage and are easily replaced.”

          I’m not sure if you can tell, since you seem to believe that kind of thing, but that was dripping with sarcasm.

      • Thank you for your response. Obviously, I do not agree with it and did not think that I would because it is just factually wrong…..but thank you.

        So, if we have a paid National Election Holiday and moved it to a Monday and made it a three day weekend…..would you be in favor of this?

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Colonel

          Leave it on Tuesday and make Monday and Tuesday a vacation day. FOUR days off.

          Of course the schools will find a reason to hold some one hour non mandatory training on the Friday before…………making it a FIVE day holiday.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        So you are a wife slave, water slave, food slave, house slave, etc. etc.

        Proof once again that people with big IQ’s can have STUPID ideas.

  37. Education In the south prior to the CW, it was illegal to teach the three Rs to slaves. There were severe punishments for both the tutor and tutee. The northern democrats supported slavery and all its ills because the alliance gave them political power. Today our inner democrat run city schools are abject failures. In Baltimore, thirteen schools do not have a single student proficient in math and nine of ten cannot read to grade level. Poor education is one way to perpetuate the plantation system. The republicans have proposed school vouchers as one way to at least salvage a few kids from these failing systems. But the suburban democrats refuse to allow this because vouchers might take money from their rich successful suburban schools. What has changed?

    There are many reasons (excuses) for failing schools, a culture of failure, over regulation, unions, leftist ideology, bureaucracy, poor teachers, lack of funds, etc. We frequently fund the trappings of education but not the education itself. I went to a small rural school. My graduating class had 42 students with a couple that did not graduate. When my kids were in junior high, I visited the school’s science class. The paraphernalia in there was astounding. They had skeletons, microscopes, solar system models…. The shelves were full. And yet the teacher complained they needed more. I remember my junior high days. We had a single classroom for all subjects, books and desks, chalk boards, a few pull down maps with the center of Africa marked unexplored. No flip charts, no overhead projectors, no scientific equipment, and a movie and strip projector that was shared with all the other classes in the junior high. In high school our science lab was modestly equipped but never had enough for everyone. Another student and I would go to the shop and fabricate equipment to leave in the science lab. The school had one mimeograph machine that served both the high school and junior high. Out of my class, 50% went to college. I am not the only Ph.D. in that group. Money is not the root cause of our education problems.

    In CA we burden the schools with too many political mandates. The must teach black history, sex ed, gay ed, and now trans ed, Islam and other religions but not Christianity. White guilt, racism, how bad America was and is probably sneaks in too. Discipline is gone, chaos rules the classrooms. Teachers dress down and look sloppy. And we wonder why we are failing.

  38. Here is some common sense finally. This shop is near me. I bet Gretchen is in the shadows waiting to pounce. We can’t get in anywhere without a mask around here. We stopped for gas and to use the restroom in Ohio last night. Some in our two carfulls were on a mission to get to the restroom. Me included. Got in the door and DANGIT! Forgot the masks in the car. Girl behind the counter said No Problem, you’re fine. That felt weird, but we were thankful. That’s sad when it feels weird to not have a mask on.

    • Dale A Albrecht says:

      👍

      Like entering my bank before he virus. Now they stop you outside, you must remove your mask if wearing and show your requested id’s (2). Only then you may enter the bank. They installed within weeks a live teller system to their headquarters in Jacksonville NC. You can still use the ATM as normal. Its fast and easy with longer hours including Saturday.

      Loan transactions. Etc make an appointment..

  39. Dale A Albrecht says:

    The State Board of Elections sent out a 27 page flyer 1st with the Judiciary candidates for empty seats. 2nd ALL THE RULES GOVERNING ABSENTEE/MAIL IN VOTING.

    No ballots will be mailed unless specifically asked for. They gave all the methods to request a ballot

    Once received, complete your ballot in the presence of one witness. Insert your ballot in the provided envelope.

    Sign the outside of the ballot envelope and have your witness complete the witness certification. If you receive assistance marking the ballot the assistant MUST complete the required certification.

    Return your ballot by mail, and must be postmarked no later than 5 PM on Nov 3rd. Make sure you put postage on it and mail it by a certain date to insure timely delivery you can drop it off at any early voting place during voting hours. Or droo it off in person at you county board of elections office no later than 5 PM on election day.

    They do have an entire page detailing the laws governing who may request ballots for others or render assistance in voting.

    No excuse for any absentee or mail in ballot being LATE after 5 PM on Nov 3rd. They will not be counted.

    However you can VOTE in person until 7:30PM

    • To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must: be 65 years or older; be sick or disabled; be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance; or be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

      Instructions for submitting an Application for Ballot by Mail (“ABBM”):

      Print (PDF) the ABBM form
      OR submit an order online and an ABBM will be mailed to you.
      Complete Sections 1 through 8.
      Sign and Date Section 10.
      If you were unable to sign the application and someone witnessed your signature, that person must complete Section 11.
      If someone helped you complete the application or mailed the application for you, that person must complete Section 11.
      Affix postage.

      If you printed the application you must place it in your own envelope and add postage.
      If you ordered the application online and it was mailed to you – fold the application in half, moisten top tab, seal and add postage.
      Address and mail the completed ABBM to the Early Voting Clerk in your county. You may also fax the application if a fax machine is available in the early voting clerk’s office. You also have the option of submitting a scanned copy of the completed and signed application to the Early Voting Clerk via email. If an ABBM is faxed or emailed, then the original, hard copy of the application MUST be mailed and received by the early voting clerk no later than the 4th business day.

      The Early Voting Clerk is the County Clerk or Elections Administrator for your county
      Contact information, including mailing addresses, fax numbers if available, and email addresses for the Early Voting Clerks are available on this website.

      Mail in ballots must be received by the County Clerk by midnight the day before the general election. Please make sure you allow enough time for travel by mail. All mail in ballots received after that time will be rejected.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        I do not understand why States do not use the postmark date instead of arrival date. Same as the IRS. It is so much cleaner.

        Or is the USPS not stamping everything with a date stamp anymore?

  40. Just A Citizen says:

    You see on the LEFT, they believe that Mueller undermined the Russian Hoax, er Investigation, and the DOJ was covering up for Mr. Trump.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/9/22/1979559/-BREAKING-WHY-Mueller-s-Investigation-Failed-The-inside-story

    Sometime I wonder if we should just blow up the internet and start over. Maybe next time we will be grown up enough to make it a tool for good.

  41. Just A Citizen says:

    Among the greatest lies ever pushed on young people by those who should have known better. And Sir Chomskey is one of them. Absolute IDIOTS.

    If the concept of worker owned/run business is so great then why don’t they exist and succeed in the current Capitalist system? Because there is NOTHING preventing them from holding title to the property. I know of a company that tried this. It was a sawmill. It took them 4 years to bankrupt it. There is now a grocery store on the site where the mill existed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

    • You know why, because most people are more than willing to get a share of the profit but they aren’t interested in being responsible for the liabilities.

  42. Just A Citizen says:

    For those who have heartburn over another “conservative” on the Supreme Court.

    Ya’ll keep claiming this will give the “cons” a 6-3 majority and the impact will last generations.

    Bull puckey.

    First, you ignore Robert’s Smurf like behavior and record of voting left when he should stand squarely with the righter side of the court. Like the ACA, when he literally killed the Constitution.

    Second, you ignore the ages of the other Justices. Do you really think the R’s are going to hold the POTUS and Senate for decades? The next Justices to reach retirement are the “conservatives”. Well except for the other Smurf who does side with the left more often than even Roberts.

  43. Just A Citizen says:

    Justice or proof that God exists???? Don’t read anything. Just watch the twitter video.

    https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/09/22/watch-crazed-woman-frantically-flips-off-trump-rally-then-something-hilarious-happens/

    • That is funny.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Guy cuts me off one day. I flip him the bird. Big mean dude that he is, he pulls over in front of me when I park, Throws open his door to get out ……… and has it taken off by a cab passing by. I pulled out. all windows open…laughing my head off.

      Karma!

    • One of my former employees, an older black lady…my buddy til her last breath… always said God doesn’t like ugly. So take that stupid b ….nevermind.

  44. Just A Citizen says:

    The Gauntlet has been thrown, no ….. slammed down.

    All hell is going to break loose now. Screams of Hitler and Stalin starting in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,,,,,

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/09/22/huge-trump-slaps-down-harmful-leftist-indoctrination-with-far-reaching-executive-order/

  45. JAC's Daughter says:

    Mathius,

    Sorry for the delay here, I’m a little late to the party. I also haven’t had the chance to read everyone’s responses to your topics so sorry if I’m beating a dead horse here…

    I asked: what exactly do you think will be better for our country and the citizens of the United States with Biden/Harris over Trump/Pence
    But I also asked: Not based on feelings toward a person, but facts of why we would all be better off. I understand some of your points and although our opinions differ on many topics, I can respect we just think differently. However, much of what you wrote (which you admitted in your preface) is about your dislike of Trump. I’d be curious to see in an alternate universe, where you didn’t think Trump was such a hennies person, if you’d view his actions differently and have a different perspective on what he’s done.

    Topics of which I disagree:

    Education – I know I’ve gone into this one before, but as someone who doesn’t have a formal education, I don’t agree that it is the most important. I do believe it’s important to be educated, but I think today (in 2020) where we can pretty much learn anything online, that the debt and environment of colleges specifically is more detrimental than beneficial long term. You did say you’re not implying everyone needs to go to college, but it’s still the mentality of our society, and I think that as a whole should change. I also think the curriculum in middle school and high school isn’t nearly as beneficial as it used to be. Why in the hell don’t they teach you, I don’t know, LIFE SKILLS, like how to balance a checkbook. Ugh, I won’t continue down this rabbit hole. I’ve already expressed I think the ‘No Child Left Behind Act’ is a big part of what screwed our public schools. Also, I respect the hell out of your wife for being a public school teacher!

    COVID – I don’t think Trump shit the bed. I don’t like how it’s been handled, but I also think he was put in an impossible situation. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t kind of situation.

    Racism – I personally don’t think Trump is racist, although I do think he’s said some things he shouldn’t have and are unfortunately constantly taken out of context. I’ve never seen proof of his racial discrimination which I don’t think should be confused with a businessman’s mentality. I do agree that black people DO have SOME legitimate gripes (I don’t think nearly as many as they think) but I have agreed with some of your arguments on this topic. BLM on the other hand, in my opinion, is an entirely different conversation than black people who want to fight for more equality. The parent company of BLM is an organization that funds politicians who support their cause, socialism, all of which can be found through a series of links through their websites.

    Immigration – I don’t agree with open boarders AT ALL, but am 100% on board for earning your green card through the proper legal rout. This is one of those topics where I would ask again, how are we as a country better off with open-open boarders?

    Tax – I’m not in agreement at all.

    Medical – I’m curious to see what Trump comes out with. I don’t support universal heath care, and from what I understand (which isn’t a lot) ObamaCare was shitty for healthcare providers and not that affordable for the people.

    Topics of which I agree (or don’t disagree with fully):

    Religion – I believe in our 1st amendment rights. I know the right is typically more open about their religious views, but I don’t understand why you would think Trump is trying to make you live in a Christian Theocracy. Do you feel this more with Trump than you did Bush? (State for the record, it was confirmed there was NO gassing of the “mostly” peaceful protesters for the photo op.) I’m a little confused on your Christmas statement.

    Guns – I’m a big fan of our 2nd amendment right

    Geo Politics – I don’t know enough on what he has or hasn’t done.

    Climate Change – I think there is evidence it’s happening, no point in denying it, but it’s also not the cause of a twenty thousand acre fire in Cali, which was caused by a gender reveal, so there is no point trying to convince me it’s because of global warming.

    Judges – I agree

    Abortion: I’m kind of in the middle on pro choice, but I can understand both sides.

    Gay/Trans: This topic I do agree as human beings, that they can and should be who they want to be and it’s none of my business. I don’t agree we should just be able to “declare” what gender we are. I don’t care to walk into the ladies room to find a guy who’s declaring he’s a woman but is still very much a man. (I’m curious your view here knowing you have I think one if not two daughters). However, through the proper sex change process, I don’t mind a woman becoming a man or vice versa and respecting as such. I don’t like how we went about legalizing gay marriage, but I do agree that they should have the same legal rights when it comes to their spouse/lover and the financial benefit. I’ve not kept up with how Trump has handled this. I do know typically the right tends to not support and the left does, however I’ve seen many videos of gay/trans supporters of Trump and know some personally, so I’m not sure why they as the gay/trans community feel different than you?

    Unions – I don’t think I agree with unions, but I also don’t agree with monopolies by large companies. I also don’t know what the answer is to fix both.
    _____________________________
    As you said we can nitpick any of this and I’m happy to go into any topic further. It doesn’t bother me that you want to vote Biden over Trump. Freedom to vote is one of the things that makes this country great. It just interests me that you think overall our country will be so much better off without Trump, and if you didn’t hate him so much if you would think differently.

    • I’d be curious to see in an alternate universe, where you didn’t think Trump was such a hennies person, if you’d view his actions differently and have a different perspective on what he’s done.

      My wife dislikes my parents.

      A lot.

      They have given her good cause to feel this way.

      However, now that she dislikes them so thoroughly, everything they do is interpreted in the worst (dare I say, “overtly hostile”) light. Some – much – is totally fair. My mother is an unhinged narcissist and my father is… unique. But much of it is unfair and simply filtered through her bias against them. If they sent my children a random present (which they don’t do), she would be upset because they knowingly gave something that will clutter the house. If they gave money, it would be offensive because it’s less than they gave to my siblings. At this point, I’m pretty sure the only thing that my parents could do which would meet with my wife’s complete approval is to die in a plane crash with all of my siblings.

      So I get where you’re coming from on this.

      I am, unfortunately, human.

      And I do, unfortunately, have bias.

      Everything that Trump & Co do, unfortunately, hits that bias filter of my reptilian brain before my more rational brain ever gets a look and that bias colors everything. This is, of course, much the way Obama could do literally nothing right according to SUFA, yet Trump is somehow a saint. The truth, of course, lies somewhere in the middle on both sides of this matter – Trump is better than I think he is, and worse than many of SUFA think – Obama was worse than I think he was, and better than many of SUFA think.

      I do work to try to see past my bias. And I do think you’ll have to admit that – while, certainly, I have a different view – I do very often grant credit where credit is due and defend the Cheetoh as appropriate. Likewise, I was overtly hostile to Clinton, lethargic toward Biden, and, while generally positive toward Obama, was definitely willing to criticize.

      Do I believe I hit this mark “perfectly”? No. No, I do not.

      But I do try.

      if you’d view his actions differently and have a different perspective on what he’s done.

      So, yes, I think you’re right.

      I think if I were raised in “Idaho” by conservative parents and led a different life with different experiences and different education, I think I would be a different person.

      I would still have the same level of raw intelligence (whatever that may be) and but my bias filter would be different.

      It is difficult to imagine myself a Trumpist. But I certainly think that there could have been a world where I was far more positive of him.

      And I think, were that the case, I would be far more receptive of the “good things” he’s done while for less alert to the “bad things.”

      I would see DeVos, instead of “woman who bought her way into her position and who is using it to enrich her already rich family and who is systematically dismantling public education,” I would see “a Hail Mary effort to try something different since what we have clearly isn’t working well enough.”

      Likewise, I think, for nearly everything else he has done. There is a generous way to interpret things and an unkind way to interpret things.

      Given a different perspective, I expect that I could even strongly approve of his record.

      (But I don’t think there is any universe where I would ever approve of his constant lying, his bullying, his deliberate divisiveness, his self-aggrandizement, or his sentence structure)

      I think the most likely outcome of a “different perspective” for me would be to tolerate him as a useful tool pulling the country in the “right direction” – not one I like, but one who does things which are beneficial to what I want (eg appointing judges and dismantling regulation, etc). Much like I don’t particularly care for Biden.. I just hope he pulls the country in the right direction.

      • You haven’t had your red Bull yet, have you? That was a well reasoned and well said answer.

      • JAC's Daughter says:

        I can respect that and yes, we are all human. I get that we all have feelings (although my mother might disagree that I have any, in fact I was told by both my parents, at different times, just last week, that I was heartless. lol) and I didn’t mean that if you were raised conservatively if you would think differently, I just meant if you didn’t hate Trump so much could you see some of the good while still wanting different changes like healthcare and open boarders. I gather the answer is yes. To your point, I didn’t like Obama, but I didn’t have a deep hate for him, therefor I didn’t think everything he did was the end of the world. On the flip side, the country DID vote for Donald Trump after Obama, so I think that speaks for itself in how the country thought he did. lol

        • On the flip side, the country DID vote for Donald Trump after Obama, so I think that speaks for itself in how the country thought he did. lol

          OOoooooh… so close.

          The COUNTRY voted for Clinton.

          The ELECTORAL COLLEGE voted for Trump.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            The Counrty voted for Trump, California and New York voted for Clinton.

            Mr. Trump was ahead by almost 2 million votes when California started counting. New York had held back and had only about half their vote tallied when California started. California provided about a 4 million vote swing, if my memory serves. NY a little bit more to give Clinton the 3 million total count margin.

    • that the debt and environment of colleges specifically is more detrimental than beneficial long term. You did say you’re not implying everyone needs to go to college, but it’s still the mentality of our society, and I think that as a whole should change.

      I agree!

      A) College isn’t for everyone.

      B) College isn’t necessary for every job where it’s a “requirement.” I can tell you that we – a hedge fund – would never even think about considering a candidate who didn’t have a 4-year degree and a decent GPA. Honestly, at this point, even an MBA is table stakes, but you can get away without it if you’re experienced or really good or if you’re applying to something pretty junior. I think this is absurd. And I think it should change.

      C) If, instead of college, someone had handed me a check for $200k and said “go start a business,” I probably would have driven that business into the ground, but what I would have learned in the process would have dwarfed everything I learned in college by an order of magnitude in value. (But it would have been a lot less fun.)

      Why in the hell don’t they teach you, I don’t know, LIFE SKILLS, like how to balance a checkbook. Ugh, I won’t continue down this rabbit hole.

      I AGREE!

      *ahem* let me try that again…

      I EMPHATICALLY agree!

      I agree so hard, I am hereby ordering your dad to come give you a high five on my behalf.

      I’ve spoken about this many times. I know that the mitocondria is the power house of the cell and I can name the different types of clouds and I can tell you how to derive a function in calculus and I learned a bit of Latin… but I didn’t even know what a mortgage was in any practical sense until I bought a house at 26.

      I’ve argued, time and again, that they need to scrap a few “common core” subjects and replace them with “how to be a human,” “how to think like a rational human,” “logical fallacies 101,” “common misconceptions,” and “adulting 101” courses. For AP credit, you could take “AP Not-Being-Stupid.”

      Also, I respect the hell out of your wife for being a public school teacher!

      It’s odd. I’ve always viewed it as a job. A good job, with good benefits, and a decent salary (here, anyway). Much like the hero worship of the military, I’ve just never really understood it. (please don’t tell my wife!)

      COVID – I don’t think Trump shit the bed. I don’t like how it’s been handled, but I also think he was put in an impossible situation. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t kind of situation.

      I don’t entirely disagree that it’s an impossible situation. Nor that, if he’d gotten it in hand and only 10k people died, that we (the left) would be singing his praises. Recall how much shit Obama got over his alleged mishandling of Ebola (including by the now-President) when only 4 people died.

      I do think he lied.

      I do think he deliberately spread misinformation.

      I do think he made masks into a partisan issue.

      I do think he failed to coordinate any kind of nationally coherent response (and I do think that the fact that states are things that exist makes this an extremely tough thing to accomplish anyway).

      I think – at the end of the day – you have to ask a simple question: how is the US doing vs how is the rest of the developed world doing? And the buck, ultimately, has to stop at the top.

      I think we are doing FAR worse than the rest of the planet. And I think Trump is a big piece of why that is. Not the WHOLE story, but a big piece.

      Racism – I personally don’t think Trump is racist,

      I don’t think Trump is personally racist either!

      I get the sense (maybe this is my bias talking) that Trump views the worlds as (A) Trump, himself, (B) Trump inner circle (C) Usefully allies (D) Supporters (E) Enemies (F) Irrelevant.

      I don’t think race, sex, or anything else factors into the equation.

      And, no, I do not think this is unique to Trump. I think this is a key characterist of a narcissistic personality. (And, yes, I did say, earlier, that my mother is such a person).

      So, no, I don’t think he is racist. I don’t think he even sees race. I don’t think it factors into his world-view even in the slightest EXCEPT insofar as how he can use it to move people from one category into another.

      I think, if he felt that he could lock up the election by advocating for a return to segregation, he wouldn’t miss a beat in doing so. Not because he thinks black people are inferior and should be segregated – rather, I think he doesn’t care – but because doing so would move the right people from (E) and (F) to (C) and (D).

      although I do think he’s said some things he shouldn’t have and are unfortunately constantly taken out of context.

      To that end, I think the things he says that you view as “taken out of context” are often (not always) deliberate.

      Certainly, there’s an interest by his detractors to take such comments and make hay out of them.

      But I do think that, oftentimes, he says things he knows a certain demographic will see as a nod to them. A subtle and deniable wink “hey, I can’t say it, but I’m one of you. Vote for me!”

      We call these dog whistles.

      People here often insist that they don’t exist. I think they do.

      I’ve never seen proof of his racial discrimination which I don’t think should be confused with a businessman’s mentality.

      Oooh… I was so close to linking you to proof that his businesses refused to lease to black tenants… but again, I AGREE WITH YOU!!

      I think that he wouldn’t lease to black people not because he gave a shit that they were black, but because he thought it was a bad business decision. He thought they’d drag down value (probably true), default at a higher rate (probably true), and not reflect the “brand” he wanted (probably true).

      He did it because it made business sense.

      Is that racist? I don’t think so.

      It’s still BAD. It’s still WRONG.

      But I think if he thought white people would harm his brand or drag down value, he’d have refused to lease to them just as readily.

      I do agree that black people DO have SOME legitimate gripes (I don’t think nearly as many as they think) but I have agreed with some of your arguments on this topic.

      STOP BEING SENSIBLE!!

      BLM on the other hand, in my opinion, is an entirely different conversation than black people who want to fight for more equality. The parent company of BLM is an organization that funds politicians who support their cause, socialism, all of which can be found through a series of links through their websites.

      If I listen to the right, BLM is the boogeyman. It may well be that the movement has been co-opted. Or, even, that it was coopted from day 2.

      Or, maybe, even, something’s fishy in the people who are trying to take advantage of the movement. Yes, I know this is ANTIFA, but it should suffice by way of making the point.

      But what I do think is that THE PEOPLE supporting BLM are not the people and organization you’re seeing. Much like Democratic VOTERS are not well represented by the official Democratic Party, nor Republican VOTERS by the Republican Party.

      And what I further think is that those inclined to disapprove of BLM have a tendency to nut-pick, such as the video of the “black queen” the other day who wouldn’t move out of a stewardess’ way. It’s a great way to discredit a legitimate position to show lunatics who are nominally aligned. I’m sure that a law professor discussing the issue dispassionately and calling for reforms to the structure of police duties, to remove from the police such duties as are not appropriate to their departments, and advocating for de-escalation training and enhanced civilian review powers… I’m sure that that kind of thing exists (I know because I’ve seen it)… but it certainly never garners the kind of attention on the right, now does it? Why is it that the former gets posted to SUFA, but not the later (unless I do it)?

      Whether the “official” movement itself is what you think or what I think really is irrelevant. My support, as far as it matters, is for the idea that cops shouldn’t be murdering people. I think that’s an idea we can all get behind.

  46. JAC's Daughter says:

    I’m off to my very first day of jury duty tomorrow. Fingers crossed it’s a case involving Chop/Chaz!!!

    • I’m off to my very first day of jury duty tomorrow.

      ::30 seconds later JAC-D was peremptorily challenged and stricken from the jury pool::

      • I have been called for jury duty four times in my lifetime so far…..My record for getting stricken was 7 minutes. I usually last 7 to 15 minutes before being stricken. The reason……………….I am an Army Officer. I get struck by the defense every time. The 7 minute record actually came from the judge presiding….Colonel, he says, I am not going to waste your time nor the courts time…..you are dismissed.

      • JAC's Daughter says:

        hahah I mean, I won’t be surprised if I’m the first to go. Especially with it being the court of Seattle, but a girl can hope she makes the cut! 🙂

        Colonel, Is there a reason they don’t want Army Officers on the Jury? Nice of the Judge to respect your time. I think my dad was called once and he raised his hand and said he knew one of the guys, so he was also immediately dismissed.

        • He’s spoken about this before, but I don’t remember his answer due to my senility. I’m eager to see what he says.

          I’ve never sat on a jury either. I’ve never been called in NY (despite living here for 11 years), nor in CT (~4 years). I was called once in CA, sat there all day, never saw the inside of a courtroom, and was dismissed after 8 hours spent reading a book on a bench with 40 strangers.

          I have, however, received a half dozen summonses from California in the years after I moved away. I wonder why they don’t realize I’m not going to attend when they’re mailing the summons to me in New York and I also wonder how they even tracked me down. But I duly check the little box for “attending would be an undue hardship” and under reason, I write “because I live 3,000 miles away.” So far I haven’t been arrested for failure to show up.

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            You do realize that means you can probably vote absentee. It took 20 years to get Junior’s name off the rolls in NJ two years back and an affidavit from him.

            • California strongly believes in taxing “Californians living abroad.”

              If you ever set foot in Cali, they think you’re a Californian for life for tax purposes. I had a letter from the Cali IRS about failing to report my income from working in Connecticut and living in Connecticut.. they thought I should have been paying California taxes on it. I declined to do so.

              As for voting, I doubt I’m still on the roles, but it wouldn’t shock me.

              • Just A Citizen says:

                Mathius

                Jury duty rolls are taken from Vehicle licenses and Voter registration. I suppose since it is Cali they might add County/City property owners as well.

          • I knew it would be Group W before I even clicked the link!

        • I have never made it to the panel to be questioned. However, according to my “plethora” of attorney’s that administer family things, I have been told this. This is a quote. “You have been and are a business owner, so you will not sit on “green mail” cases nor employment discrimination cases because you are automatically deemed prejudiced.” I was told, and this is a quote, “as an Army Officer, you will not be asked to sit on murder cases, accident cases, burglary cases, etc because Military Officers are by the book thinkers. There is no flexibility.” I have further been told that I am the perfect prosecution pick….but a definite strike for the defense because the defense wants people they can sway in their thinking. One of my officer cohorts who is a criminal defense attorney said…he wants ” the housewife that does not work outside the home and watches soap operas all day.”

          About the only case that I would be asked to sit on, according to my gurus of law….would be technical cases that require orderly thinking, like copyright cases or technical business cases.

          The time the judge dismissed me was when he was looking over the potential juror list and saw my military credentials and it was a murder case…..he knew right off the bat that I would be disqualified. My concern over this was, the prosecution and defense have only so many automatic disqualifications…he did not make the defense disqualify me. However, I am sure his decision was correct because I was in there with 110 other prospective jurors for this particular case.

          • “as an Army Officer, you will not be asked to sit on murder cases, accident cases, burglary cases, etc because Military Officers are by the book thinkers. There is no flexibility.”

            Curious, Mr. The Colonel…

            Could you ever envisage yourself nullifying a jury?

            Civil? Criminal? Court martial?

            In case it’s needed.

            • Could you ever envisage yourself nullifying a jury? No sir…….but, again, according to those in the know, still say that Military Officers will show no emotion and are the least likely to be persuaded by emotional appeal. Again, the prosecution would want me….but the defense will not….according to those in the know. All I can say is…..I never made the cut……and….never saw the starting line.

              • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

                I was a witness at a courts martial for a barracks thief who was caught with some of my property. He skated because teh CM found since no one actually saw the guy (who everyone knew was a POS) stealing anything, Therefore his excuse that he “found” the stuff and was unaware of who owned it and was merely trying to raise a few bucks by selling it in the next company was plausible. This despite my name being on both items.

                These wonderful “urban” types had a network going to steal from one company and sell in another. Our First Sgt was absolutely disgusted with “you damn college boys” in that the guy ever made it to a Courts Martial instead of a long, long stay in the base Hospital. So spoke an old “brown shoe” Army man.

                Reminds me of a story the old man told. When shipping home from England he was with a large contingent of the Big Red One who had spent a few months on his base in England decompressing. On teh Queen Elizabeth coming home there were wall to wall craps and poker games. Dad was on his rack, reading a western when a commotion occurred. Apparently a sharpie had accidentally thrown out THREE dice. By the time my father had realized what was happening the perp’s feet were disappearing out the porthole. I think my first Sgt. would have appreciated that story.

          • My concern over this was, the prosecution and defense have only so many automatic disqualifications…he did not make the defense disqualify me.

            (Depending on the type of trial and varying by jurisdiction)

            They have only so many peremptory challenges, but as many as they want or need “for cause.”

            That’s why they’ll try to strike you for cause, if they can. That’s a “freebie.”

            If they can convince the judge that you’ll be biased, they don’t need to use one of their challenges. It would seem that this judge is taking it as a given that the defense would be able to, given your qualifications, convince the judge of your lack of impartiality. So she’s skipping ahead to the inevitable rather than giving a handout to the defense.

            (also: as a matter of principle, Mathius has no objection to courts giving (reasonable) handouts to the defense. The responsibility to prove guilt lays with the state, and I have no problem, whatsoever, making that an uphill climb.)

  47. WASHINGTON, D.C.—It was a doubly sad day for the Supreme Court. While they were still mourning the loss of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, pink slips were handed out to Justices Stephen Breyer, Elena Kagan, and Sonia Sotomayor as they were told to pack up their things and leave.

    “I heard about court-packing,” Trump told the press. “I looked into it, and it ends up you can change the number of justices on the Supreme Court! Some people say it’s bad, very bad. But I think it may be actually very good, really. We’re trying to cut costs and get the economy rolling again! Why are we paying for all these extra justices we don’t even need? So we’re doing kind of a reverse court-packing process and getting rid of all the really bad judges who don’t like me”

    Instead of going through the expensive headache of confirming a new justice to replace Ginsburg, Trump will now reduce the number of justices on the Supreme Court by four. This means that in addition to not appointing a successor to Ginsburg, three more justices needed to get the boot. Trump said he pulled the names at random from a hat. “Totally random, but not really,” he said.

    Breyer, Kagan, and Sotomayor were told to clear out their desks and walk out, escorted by security. Each was given two weeks’ pay as severance. They were also given a going away party at TGI Fridays, but few were allowed to attend due to social distancing.

  48. Well, Dallas, Texas is having……a……”hissy fit”. Let’s knock out police over time, the anti police yelled. So, it was done. The money that was used for police over time was redistributed to other public programs.

    Let’s limit the police hiring to a specific number…..and voila it was done. Police hiring is on a freeze because there is no money allocated for more policemen and the over time pay for police has been stopped.

    The overtime paid to the police was allocated for the extra patrols in the high crime areas. So, the extra patrols have been stopped in the high crime areas.

    The result…….crime has increased in the high crime areas by 400 percent. Businesses that threatened to move out….are now moving out. Now, there are abandoned malls and strip centers that have become an un-patrolled haven of drug users, homeless, criminals, and feral animals. The good people that lived in those areas have finally been forced out because of the crime and there is no investment in those areas because of the crime. So, Dallas now has a blight situation. The police patrols that are left in that area reports that roving gangs just wave at them and laugh.

    Social workers will not go into those areas because of the crime and no police presence, so social services are failing. City workers do not want to go into those areas because of the crime. In the Dallas experiment, at the request of the City Council, police do not respond to family violence issues (they think this will diffuse bad policing)…..they simply call the social services which will not go into those environments. Family assaults have increased over 200 percent. Garbage pick up has been reduced because there is no tax base left to support it.

    The banks and financial institutions have basically red-lined the area because investing there would be a bad investment because of the crime. It has become so bad that the general public is by passing these areas and not even driving through them.
    —————————————————————————–

    Did I mention that Dallas is a Democrat controlled City Council and Administration. So……because all of this is happening…………………they are now, once again, crying racial discrimination.

    It boggles the mind.

  49. Just saw a great blurb on the news where Biden was actually questioned on his socialist move to the left. His retort was ” I beat a socialist to get the nomination. Do I look like a socialist?”

    The Colonel wonders what a socialist looks like…..

    • Hi T Ray…this has become an outcry here. Doctors in Texas are becoming furious over being forced to classify deaths as Covid or Covid related simply because they have it. They are literally being forced to call all deaths as Covid related even if the cause of death is not Covid……simply because they have it. Hospitals in Texas are requiring doctors to imply Covid just because there are symptoms even if no test is run.

      I am beginning to look at Covid in the same manner as climate change…..a nothing burger.

      • Everybody says follow the science but the science on Covid has been all over the place. It is actually an embarrassment.

        I just heard about an experiment in Saudi Arabia, 3500 patients on HCQ and 4500 on regular medications. 7 died in the former group and 54 for in the latter. But HCQ will kill you.

        Every pandemic of a novel disease in the past has been stopped by herd immunity but we have now become smarter than nature so we will make sure this one is different. Arrogance.

        • This Canadian gets it. The Trump chant is cool, but listen to her about HCQ.

        • Everybody says follow the science but the science on Covid has been all over the place. It is actually an embarrassment.

          Science is a method for finding the truth.

          It is messy, contradictory, slow, and has many false stops and starts.

          It takes time, builds up a body of evidence. Theories are established and abandoned, supported and demolished. Eventually, hopefully, some kind of general acceptance and consensus emerges.

          I’m unclear why people seem to think “science” should know everything without any missteps.

          It’s a process. Not an oracle.

          All we can do is accept that the best-informed people reading and understanding the best-conducted studies generally have a better understanding of the most likely “best path forward.”

          Note that it’s not, necessarily, the best path forward… just the one that’s MOST LIKELY to be.

          It’s like hopping in a car without knowing your destination… you keep stopping and asking for directions and heading that way. Maybe some people gave you wrong directions and sent you off the wrong way, maybe you missed a turn or misunderstood something and got it wrong. But if enough data says to go East, that doesn’t mean “East” is right. It means “East is your best bet.”

          Generally, eventually, over time, you’ll probably get where you’re going… or at least the general direction.

          Your path will have been “all over the place.” But, considering that you didn’t know – couldn’t have known – the path, why is it embarassing?

          And why should you be faulted for taking a path that, in retrospect, was wrong, when at the time, it was the best information you had available?

          • Except this is not the first airborne virus we have had to deal with. Stop making excuses.

            • Except this is not the first airborne virus we have had to deal with. Stop making excuses.

              It’s not a question of excuses.

              I think you’re expectation of what “science” should know and when they should know it is unrealistic.

              Yes, sure, we HAVE seen virii similar to this before – it’s not a whole new type of never-before-seen virus. But it’s still NEW, and people didn’t know everything – and still don’t.

              Do you think millions of scientists worldwide just didn’t stop to consider what we already knew and attempted to recreate a whole germ theory from scratch?

              Or is it just possible that reality is more complicated than you think it is?

              • Or is it just possible that reality is more complicated than you think it is? Yes…and the reason is that it is a lab grown virus. The secret is out and every scientist knows this and, as I surmised months ago, China knew it and let it out. It is a pre-emptive experiment to see how the world and economies react. Be ready for more.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Here is the nut of it.

        On a population basis, 350 million people, Covid is a nusance. Something that deserved special attention but now just requires a little common sense without shutting down the economy.

        On and “individual” basis, as in you, me, Mathius, etc., it is a potential killer. Greater than the flu but the flu is a threat as well.

        This is the basis dichotomy which fuels the anti Trump media hype over Covid. At a national level, even 200,000 dead out of 350 million people is not a gross failure or crisis. Especially when you consider this was a NEW virus with little known immunity.

        But it is easy to tug on the heart strings by bringing up X or Y who died. Play up the tragedy and make it personal. That is how you hang the Covid albatross around Trump’s neck. Just as they did with Katrina and Bush. Just as they do with rationalizing national healthcare. It is ALWAYS about the death of X or Y or Z.

        Now serious question for the group. Do we really want the LEADERS of the nation to be emotionally invested in the death of a single American? If so, where do we stop at spending resources to prevent that single death?????

        • “The needs of the many out way the needs of the few or the one.” (Spock, Stardate 2285)

        • At a national level, even 200,000 dead out of 350 million people is not a gross failure or crisis.

          200k is a rounding error into 350mm.

          This, by the way, has always been – more or less – my argument against the insane overreaction to 9/11.

          It staggers me that many of the same people who reacted to 3k dead of 9/11 as they did shrug off 200k dead.

          Yet, at the same time, an order of magnitude more die from heart disease or cancer. And these are merely statistics rather than visceral attacks with semi-clear (and distinctly killable) enemy causes.

          I felt, on the morning of 9/11, as I do today: it was terrible, tragic, but really, not a national crisis….. .unless we make it one. Which we very, very, very much did.

          So, to that end, Covid… well… I’ll you compete this thought because dinner is ready and my wife made pulled pork in the slow cooker and, frankly, that’s far more important.

          The wife makes a mean pulled pork.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            And exactly who are these people?…………It staggers me that many of the same people who reacted to 3k dead of 9/11 as they did shrug off 200k dead.

            Maybe a little exaggeration on your part. Or deliberately ignoring the real issues in favor of cheap political rhetoric.

            As for 9/11’s response. As I said at the time. We would bankrupt the country in response. That included loss of Liberty, not just money.

  50. I know the following will mean nothing to you “yankee” types………….but to us westerners, it is monumental.

    Fort Worth, Texas has pulled a coup. The NFR has just announced that Fort Worth will host the National Finals Rodeo, beginning in 2024 until 2034. This has been in Las Vegas for decades and they just lost the contract. It might not mean much to the subway riders and the electric car drivers of the east…but it does to us Westerners.

    The NFR goes for 10 consecutive days with each day featuring a competition (referred to as a “go-round”) in each event. Every competition has its own prizes, but there is also a separate set of prizes for the best overall scores in each event over the 10 days of competition (referred to as “the average”). This means cowboys can win a prize for a single competition and also win for having the highest overall score in that category during the entire NFR run that year.

    Prize payouts depend on the total prize pool for that year. The NFR continues to break earnings records year after year with the total NFR prize purse for 2019 at $10 million! Overall, the PCRA has awarded more than $182 million to cowboy competitors throughout NFR history.

    It brings in approximately five hundred million in outside revenues to the host city. Vegas lost the contract due to the exorbitant cost of labor unions. Texas, being a right to work state and no state income taxes to worry about, made it more profitable to move the venue. The competitors do not have to pay taxes to Texas on their winnings.

      • Yep……….rookies.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        OMG………… my sides hurt from laughing so hard.

        • JAC…I think that was actually Mathius trying to learn about rodeo.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            I think you might be right. Looked like he was stretching before a run………. still laughing.

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Colonel

            With all due respect and the affection I have for a brother from another mother………. I keep trying to tell you…………. YOU DO NOT LIVE IN THE WEST. TEXAS is NOT THE WEST.

            bwahahahahahahhaahaahaa

            • Excuuuuse me…….BUT….it is often noteworthy that Fort Worth is where the west begins.

              • West Coast of-course mean Washington\ Oregon and California [some may include Hawaii and Alaska since both states are the western-most states in the U.S.]. Wyoming, Colorado and Montana are as western as it gets, the west starts in Texas, but its just a different kind of West, more like a Southern West.Jul 11, 2010

              • Just A Citizen says:

                Those famous “Mid-Western” States of N and S Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma are all or mostly WEST of Ft. Worth.

                I do have to give ya some credit though, as Ft. Worth at least has a small cattle drive each week for the tourists. And congrats on snagging the National Finals. Never thought it should have been in Vegas anyway.

                My vote for the next Local is Miles City, Montana. A REAL Cow and Cowboy town.

              • I’m not going down without a fight…..””Where the West Begins”, the motto for Fort Worth, Texas, the 13th-largest city in the United States of America. Where the West Begins (1919 film), an American film directed by Henry King. Where the West Begins (1928 film), an American film directed by Robert J. Horner.

                Why is Fort Worth where the West begins?
                When the tribes came to the negotiating table, a treaty was made under which the Native Americans were to remain to the west of a line traced passing through the future site of Fort Worth. The line marked “Where the West Begins” — giving Fort Worth its famous slogan.

                Founded by Maj. Ripley Arnold as a military outpost in 1849, Fort Worth was named after Gen. William Jenkins Worth, commander of the Texas army. (By the way, BLM is trying o change the name of Fort Worth…it is racist according to them).

                Now, actually, if you look closely at the geography…..Draw a line from Oklahoma City Down to Houston…….the tree line stops at that line….east of the line is the logging industry and west of the line the rolling plains and cattle ranches………..HOWEVER, we are not really a western state just like we are not considered a Southern state…we are the Southwest.

                No disrespect intended, we do not want to be a western state……that would align us with California, Oregon, and Washington State. UGH……so…..you can have that recognition of a western state. No one thinks of Idaho or Utah as Western..they only think of the west coast…just like I do not consider Kentucky or Pennsylvania or Ohio as Eastern states…Yankees, yes but not Eastern……I reserve that for east coast.

                So…ok…you can have the title western state……

            • I do have to give ya some credit though, as Ft. Worth at least has a small cattle drive each week for the tourists. Perhaps you should research the famous cattle trails of the 1800’s. Perhaps you should look up the famous Western Cattle Trail…..The Chisolm, the Goodnight…….

              I did not see any cattle drives going to Coeur d Alene, Idaho.

              Jus’ sayin”

  51. How many of you have been following this?

    https://mygoogleresearch.com/?fbclid=IwAR1jPS0HFey4GLd4Csa4Q51Urn-B2YxVZRrHCW7agX6zhJT7epuf4XgNIP0

    We have heard so much about Russian incursion into our elections but this is far bigger and more insidious. Power does corrupt absolutely.

    • Almost have it correct. “Power corrupts”…..”absolute power corrupts absolutely”

      • An observation that a person’s sense of morality lessens as his or her power increases. The above statement is credited to Lord Acton, a British historian of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.

      • Between 1837 and 1869 he was known as Sir John Dalberg-Acton, 8th Baronet. He is perhaps best known for the remark, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men…”,

    • Saw that a lil while back. Still think the same. Big tech as far as social media is concerned has shot themselves in the foot. Im more concerned with the ballot counters. This will be dangerous for elections in the future, but I think everyone already knows who they will vote for this time around.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Saw this a couple years back. But more important, I personally noticed this ploy with “What’s Up Next” on Youtube. It seems to have started late in August, on my searches.

      How do I know? Because my Youtube library and searches are almost exclusively on Sustained Farming, No Till and Homestead, Farmstead topics. In late August the up next list started placing one of two kinds of videos in not only the “next” position but scattered among the list which usually shows on the right side. These two types are best summarized as 1.) Hate Trump and 2) Love Biden.

      One other thing started happening. Almost exclusively, advertising for campaign donations by Democrats as the advertisement attached to the Youtube video. What I have discovered is that a “monitized” video is one where Google/Youtube get the advertising money for those ads linked to the video. And THEY decide which ads get played. Which is why the issue came up earlier this year about Google and Youtube dumping video advertising from “Republican” candidates ONLY.

      I always thought it went to the person making the video but apparently not. That money comes from products the producer actually mentions and builds into the links on the particular video.

  52. Interesting day…the spousal unit and I went shopping for a couple of things today and I was wearing my mask that has a saying on it………SOCIALism Distancing. Upon checking out, the only two cashiers were black females, who said nothing about the masks, but they exchanged looks with each other and did not smile. It was obvious they did not like the saying on the mask…….so being the nice guy that I am…..I did not move from the checkout until she was laughing and being nice back to me. I sure am glad she did because I was prepared to stand there as long as it took.

  53. Just A Citizen says:

    This is an actual policing problem regarding a “class” of people. Some have addressed it. In the Portland area a multi-million dollar lawsuit over killing an unarmed “mentally disabled” person led to the Sheriff in Washington County having Psychological experts/aids on patrol. We wound up encountering one because the Millenial Mom’s in the park couldn’t just walk up and talk to Lil JAC when he asked to play with their kids.

    But other places it would have ended in the LEO’s being aggressive and when getting incoherent answers there would be an arrest. Or attempt to arrest which in turn would have created a confrontation. Escalation can happen quickly.

    Now with that said, I do have to wonder what it is that inflicts the minds of so many in a certain other “class” of people that they react to police in the same way.

  54. Just A Citizen says:

    Interesting take from a “sciency person” about Fact Checkers on the internet. Which came out in clubs lately, see how PC I can be, to attack the Chinese Doc claiming Covid is a bio engineered disease.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/09/social_media_factcheckers_are_destroying_good_science.html

  55. Interesting fact: China, Democratic Republic of the Congo, India, Indonesia, Iran, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, the Philippines and Russia – comprise 60% of all the people living in modern slavery, as well as more than half the world’s population, according to the Global Slavery Index.Feb 25, 2019

  56. Just A Citizen says:

    Mathius………..Science and Covid.

    Not sure what it is you think Mr. Trump did not do that he had authority to do. Answer the question after you watch this interview:

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  59. Just A Citizen says:

    Now for a comment regarding the videos I posted. Today Senator Rand Paul suggested to Dr. Fauci that maybe New Yorks low number of current Covid infections was due to herd immunity. The good Dr. chastised Mr. Paul stating that if he thought 22% exposure was herd immunity he was alone. Of course CNN and the other hating Media reveled in this “take down”. But in the first video above the EXPERT notes that others in the field have calculated the needed herd immunity at anywhere from 25% to 40%. He thinks it closer to the higher number but recognizes that some of his colleagues think maybe 25%.

    So if NY is holding steady with only 22 to 25% exposure what is happening. Well the second video discusses the studies now showing that anywhere from 25 to 40% of those NOT EXPOSED have T-Cells which provide an immune response. Nobody knows how yet but the results are showing up across the globe.

    So lets assume NY has the same rates and put it at the low end……… 25%. So you take the 22 to 25% Exposure and add it to the 25% not exposed with T-cells……….. you get something just under 50% (accounting for some double counting in the random selection).

    Which means that DR. Rand Paul may in fact be correct and Fauci was displaying his bias, or growing agitation, not real science. In decoding this you also have to note that Dr. Paul was asking if herd immunity was achieved and Dr. Fauci then conflated 22% “exposure” with “herd immunity”. That was a bad move by the good Dr. Fauci.

    Now I am left to wonder why he would say what he did. Is he dismissing the global data? Is he just lashing out, because Dr. Paul and others have been critical of his advice? Or is he ignorant of the global data or just stuck on protecting his advice? Something just doesn’t seem right here.

    Why is the CDC and Fauci still stuck on “general population” restrictions and shut downs and schools, etc. when the data and expertise discussed in the first and third video make the case that this should be an AGE related response?? Or more specifically, a AT RISK response.

    In my looking at this today I found many articles, from US academia, criticizing the Swedes. Mostly focusing on their death rate which was slightly higher than the USA back in July. Yet these “reports” ignored what was mentioned above. Most of the new jump in deaths came from old folks homes in Stockholm, where precautions were inadequate.

    I got a kick out of the Brit Doctor and his pregnant pauses over the US response. Not exactly objective and clinical as the other countries he discussed. I wonder why?

    Here is a critical point that should be considered when doing all this “soul searching” in the USA. States and areas within States are different. Responses, infection rates, mortality, etc.. The very nature of how the pandemic started in the US also contributes to how and why the numbers are still high. DELAYED infection thanks to the stupid shut downs.

    Of course then there is the Moving Target phenomena. You know, it was all about hospital ICU units and beds and now it is about “stopping the spread”.

    A lot to unwind and I know I am rambling a bit so I will stop it there. One other note to Mathius on his criticism of Mr. Trump’s response. YOU HAVE NO IDEA what the govt was doing because you were not following the Govt. You were watching news reports and clips of press conferences. If there is criticism due it should be directly aimed at CDC and the Dept of Health folks who should have been prepared. No President can fix agencies that are stumbling or ill prepared in the onset of an emergency situation.

    • JAC, thanks for doing the research. I think your analysis is spot on. My point above was to imply that the scientists at CDC are supposed to be the best in the field of infectious diseases. While this virus is unique, it is not that unique. Not knowing how effective masks are after studying viral diseases for nearly one hundred years is a complete failure. They relied on a computer model that was off by 10x. They allowed egos and personalities to get in the way. While the initial shutdown was to allow time for facilities (that should have been available) to be acquired; then they moved the goal posts to stop the spread which has cost money and lives. I said early on that the only solution was herd immunity. We knew early that the elderly and compromised were a problem, but again due to egos we sent patients to nursing homes when beds had been made available. Our statistics are a mess. We classified all deaths as Covid and then failed to collect the other causes of death so we could post analyze it. For professionals in healthcare not to collect as much information as possible is inconceivable to me. We continue to keep schools closed despite the statistics.

      So once again, I say the science failed compounded by the egos of the politicians. But as you know I got a lecture on how complex science is from someone who has never worked in a professional science lab.

      For the Col., early on I said this was a manufactured virus. It had two components, one was SARS and the other (if my memory is good) was traces of Ebola. It was the Ebola that seemed out of place thus providing evidence of tinkering. We now have the Hong Kong doctor that claims to have the proof. I do not know if this was an intentional release but it is obvious it was a leak from the Wuhan Lab. US virologists who inspected the lab gave it low marks for safety. In any case, once the virus escaped, the CCP covered up significant details of the outbreak.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Last month, 30 days ago, the boroughs of the Bronx and Queens exceeded 33% so I do not know what they are talking about unless it is NY State as a whole.

  60. Just A Citizen says:

    OMG the irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife. The Sec General says this is “Our 1945” moment then goes on and on about how the world cannot deal with two giants at odds (China and the USA). Others attack the US with the Cop’s knee on the neck representing what they experience from the US. So in summary, the world will meet it’s 1945 moment head on by ……………………….. Appeasing China and telling the US to back the hell up.

    They should start calling the Sec General “Mr. Chamberlain”.

  61. Just A Citizen says:

    Follow the Science they say. Well Dr. Atlas did just that in his comments about the CDC Director’s comment that 95% of the country is still susceptible to being infected.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/517904-atlas-contradicts-redfield-on-population-susceptability-to-coronavirus

    Now look at not only the reaction in the article but read the many comments attacking Atlas. Including his credentials. All made by people with less knowledge than most here at SUFA.

  62. Just A Citizen says:

    So Mr. Trump has once again “We’ll see” to leaving office after the election. Now while all the howling moonbats are going ape at the moment, he did not say he would not leave. He said we will see and if there is fruad it might mean more of a continuation.

    While we don’t think a POTUS should say such a thing, lets look at it for its face value. Lets suppose the election is still tied up in the courts in January, maybe into February. Do you really think that SCOTUS would allow the Nancy Pelosi strategy to take affect? Or would they probably stay the election determination until the issues were resolved?

    In reality, they will do whatever it takes to end the election in time for either Mr. Trump or Mr. Biden to be sworn in. And if it goes badly for him, Mr. Trump will leave. And then probably continue to claim the election was stolen. If he doesn’t there will certainly be a large number who do.

    Oh, and the same can be said for the Dems. Hillary to Joe……….DO NOT CONCEDE. Press……………… absolute silence.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Now with that said, what should we as Americans think or do if there really is serious doubt about the legality of the election. That there really are examples of potential fraud or misconduct that could have affected the outcome. Are we or those running really just supposed to accept the announcements of the various States if they are reporting potentially fraudulent results?

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        Been pondering that myself. We have had instance after instance of fraud and Screw ups with the primary mail in votes shoved in our faces all year yet people like Mathius say there is no “evidence”.

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