A Strange Day

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  1. They knew Biden couldn’t draw a crowd, so……

    • Thought about you yesterday. Rush did a segment on it.

      So a bunch of flags were put on the Washington Mall to represent the people who could not be there. The reason So rather than run the risk of having a crowd half the size or less of what Trump would draw, they just tell the crowd, “Don’t show up. We’ll handle it. We’ll take care of it.”

      So rather than run the risk of having a crowd half the size or less of what Trump would draw, they just tell the crowd, “Don’t show up. We’ll handle it. We’ll take care of it.” Those kinds of things — in the deep, dark crevices of their own minds — will tell them that they’re not as popular as they think, that they are not as overwhelmingly beloved as they think. And in the end, that kind of thing matters.

      • I’ve seen more people in line at a porta-potty in a construction area than Biden had at his Rally’s. 😀

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        I haven’t seen that many flags since Nuremberg in the 1930’s.But at least der Fuhrer was not afraid of his own people.

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      Weird things happen when you literally say – we don’t want a crowd. You…….checking notes one more time…..end up without a crowd.

      • But we were promised hoards of wild eyed protesters with veins in their teeth. Far different than 4 years ago with the “peaceful” protests and the pussy hat parades.

  2. Canine Weapon says:

    • Ha! That was a given once McCain gave the thumbs down. No way Congress was going to give him Trump Care. Got any dumbass Congress memes? That’s who gets the blame.

      • So he couldn’t even show us the plan?

        • Had to pass it to see what’s in it, didn’t you learn anything from the Obama years?

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          I would say there were a great many things he did not show us and I would love to know why.

          For openers the de-classified Russia/Steele stuff is fascinating but the bottom of page 96 in a 94 page newspaper. I do not think any of us would say that had these revelations been seen made last summer they would not have made a difference. Ditto with Biden and his son, hammer, hammer, hammer!.

          # 45 had some real horrific advice and surprisingly he listened to it!

        • Ray Hawkins says:

          There was never a plan. Overturning what was existing, contrary to G-Man’s imagination, isn’t really a plan.

          • Didn’t need a plan, just go back before Obama fucked it all up, it was way better and cheaper.

            • Ray Hawkins says:

              Then why would he have continually lied about having a plan? Trump Care was a figment of his imagination.

              GMan: “Had to pass “It” to see what was in “It””

              What was “It”?

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Ray

            Sorry Sir but you are wrong when it comes to Mr. Trump. He stated his plan several times. The Red team did not like it. He pushed for expanding Medicare and eliminating the other programs. That was his stated position going in, combined with reducing barriers to interstate competition.

            The Red team made a living off “killing Obama Care” for almost 6 years and when they had the chance the melted. Mr. Trump failed in my view because he did not take it to the people and really push his idea. He did make overtures to the Dems. Even offered up Citizenship for the DACA kids. Still no takers.

            And Mr. Biden’s health care was buried in the Climate “Crisis” stuff I read yesterday. Maybe it moved today.

  3. You gotta love this statement from the acting DHS…. Acting Department Homeland Security Secretary David Pekoske signed a memorandum to review immigration enforcement policies. Part of that includes a 100-day pause, beginning Friday, of “certain noncitizens ordered deported.”

    I wonder what a “certain non citizen”…is…………

    It would apply to any noncitizen with a final order of removal with very limited exceptions.It would exclude those who, according to a written finding by the head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), has engaged in terrorism or espionage or who poses a danger to national security. It would also exclude those who were not present in the U.S. before Nov. 1 2020, those who agreed to waive the right to remain, and those who the ICE director individually determined need be removed by law.

    Wow…read this very carefully…..

    The move, which means many illegal immigrants with criminal convictions and charges will not be deported in that time frame

    Hmmmmmmmmm….criminals get to stay……

    Other orders include one to revoke the Trump administration’s plan to exclude non-citizens from the census and the apportionment of congressional seats,

    Hmmmmmmm……so, as I read this, they get to count lawbreakers and illegals into the apportionment of Congressional seats….interesting.

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      Colonel – goodness gracious you left a ton of context out of the memo. Seems you are alleging something nefarious out of an order that I read as – we think things are a cluster at the border, we are resource constrained, we are going to pump the brakes for 100 days and re-evaluate the plan. Here is the link for folks interested in what the good colonel left out: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/21_0120_enforcement-memo_signed.pdf

      • Yes, Ray, I cherry picked some sentences. I did that on purpose. Words do have meaning. Do you want to know how the people across the border read the same memo? They read it as…..we have 100 days to get in line or to cross. I am down here and I fight this all the time. I can tell you, that when Trump dropped all of the barriers we had to immigration, we put a great lid on it and it worked. We are able to do our jobs. Border patrol issued non lethal ammunition under the Obama administration so they would avoid conflict with armed “coyotes”…..We gave them real bullets and what happened? It shifted to Arizona and California. Border patrol would not intervene because they could not fight back and if they did, it was with bean bags and rubber bullets and many died. Now, Trump is gone….I do not care what he does and he is an non issue. But a 100 day moratorium is NOT….repeat…is NOT going to work. And the real fear is that…..it will be Obama on steroids and I can tell you for certainty that people will quit if it goes back.

        This is ok for Texas because we are not going to change..fine…..but Arizona and California have a huge problem. We are not going to move our barriers and we are continuing to build walls where we want them using our own funds. That is all well and good for Texas but it is the other States that are worrisome….not from my standpoint or Texas.
        I wish you could talk to the ranchers down here that own 93% of the border. They are safe and have been four the last four years….now they are worried. We have had no more school bus hijackings, water skiers and fishermen robbed on the border lakes, and line shacks burned and cattle stolen. HOWEVER, we have NO reason to believe that it will not start up again.

        I fully understand the 100 day issue…..but it is a prelude…..and that WE do understand.

  4. Moderation, please.

  5. Police declared an unlawful assembly Wednesday night in Portland, Ore., after about 150 rioters caused damage to a federal immigration facility in the city, according to the authorities.

    The unrest near the ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) building was declared after rioters started throwing rocks and eggs, and vandalizing the building, located in the city’s south waterfront neighborhood, Portland police Sgt. Kevin Allen said in a 10 p.m. update.

    “We have observed property damage to the building,” the Portland Police Bureau wrote on Twitter. “Anyone who is involved in criminal behavior including: vandalism and graffitting is subject to arrest or citation.”

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    So, all of a sudden this is not a block party any longer….protests are now not in vogue…..

    Interesting…..***trying to disguise a laugh

  6. Anti Biden rioters and Antifa gathered in downtown Seattle on Wednesday, causing damage to the city following the inauguration of President Joe Biden.

    At least two people were arrested during the unrest, one for property damage and another for assault, according to the Seattle Police Department. Police later announced a man had been arrested “for investigation of burglary and for the property damage” after a glass storefront was damaged at a Starbucks in the city.

    Seattle police tweeted photos of the damage and said multiple sites were vandalized, including what appeared to be an Amazon Go store. Multiple windows were also shattered at the William Kenzo Nakamura Courthouse, police said.

    The group had initially been carrying a sign that read “Abolish ICE,” [U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement] while another banner suggested they were protesting Biden and law enforcement, according to reports.

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    Interesting…..

  7. Biden has endorsed the PRO Act, ending Right to Work and ending the option of freelance work or independent contracting.

    Even more interesting…..more freedoms to be taken away?

    Well, good luck in doing this.

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      Ugh……so you’re copy/pasting broad statements from Fox Business dot com. Any linkage to current state of the PRO Act or specific provisions allegedly ending freelance/contracting?

      • Yes, I copied and pasted that…and if you read the Democratic National Convention, it is plastered all over their web page….I also issued a caveat….it has been tried before and has failed each time.

        No, I have no linkage on the current state of the Pro Act….I just know that Biden endorsed it….but that is why I called the person who would know…..and I reported what he said. He and I also know that this has been tried before…..there is no way that anyone is going to be able to change the Right to Work States….we all know this…..BUT one thing that can change are rules…..IRS rules that redefine the Independent contractor status….THIS, they have done before. The issue is, it is coming up again. I am not stupid, Ray, and I do not infer that you think that I am, but I have been through it before on the issue of Contract Labor and Independent Operators…never heard the free lance thing until now. (Not even sure what free lance means other than journalists)…..

        But this has far reaching impact on Sub s corporations and LLC’s as well.

        If this Act DOES pass in its entirety…..it would be devastating and I think the left knows this..but I do not hold anything dear any longer given the political climate. I am an old guy…and under this administration, I expect to lose my import privileges from Mexico. Obama took them away, Trump gave them back, and I expect things to go back….I am a little guy in the export business but that is who the big guys want to trample. I am just raising issues…..that is all. If I name them properly, and I have, then they can do their own research.

        • Ray, I do have the link but, alas, I do not know how to copy links on here. Every time I try, it does not work. However, the Pro Act that recently passed the house along party lines is unchanged…you can read the act itself. Just look up Pro Act……self explanatory.

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      An opinion piece by that beacon of truth Grover Norquist no less.

      • I know you probably will not believe this, but I do not know who Grover Norquist is….except a writer not unlike everybody else out there….I read headlines from Fox, MSNBC, CNN, and NPR.

        • Norquist is a mythological goblin that emerges from hibernation every time a Democrat is in office to remind us all of the vital importance of fiscal restraint. He is an elrich creature whose sole purpose is to ensure that no Democratic priorities are ever realized.

          Like the Lorax, who speaks for the trees, Norquist speaks for the debt. The only thing allowed to worsen the deficit under his watchful eye is more tax cuts, preferably for the rich – these do not need to be paid for.

          The longer Democrats are in control, the more his power will increase, the louder his voice will become, until it has become a deafening alarm constantly baring in the back of our minds at all times. And nothing, not even death itself, will silence him until Republicans return to power. This, at last, will cause him to fall back to his enchanted slumber.

          There, he will dream dreams of cutting entitlement programs and reducing taxes on the rich until the day comes when he will be called on to emerge once again.

          • Ahhh….

          • Just A Citizen says:

            Let me make one thing perfectly clear. I am the ONLY PERSON authorized to speak for the trees. It is certainly not Norquist or this “Lorax” person.

            I also speak Fairy and Elvin. Wood nymphs have the hardest language to understand so I have not mastered that, yet.

  8. I just got off the phone with Chris Spear. No, none of you know him….I have known him for a long time. He is the President of the American Trucking Association. The American Trucking Association, founded in 1933, is the largest national trade association for the trucking industry in the United States and Canada. I need some statistics because I am concerned about transportation issues from Mexico. I asked him about the PRO Act and the elimination of independent contractors and its effect on the industry and pricing. Sixty Five percent of the truckers across the nation are independent contractors. He estimated that transportation costs would rise approximately 20-25%.

    On the converse, this has been tried before and has not been successful…but different times are here.

    • I would think that the PRO Act would be unconstitutional. But if not, truckers can strike and the PRO Act would be gone in a week. Truckers have far more power than anyone thinks. A one month strike and people in cities would starve. No gasoline, no food, no options. Interstates shut down, airports closed, major routes closed, let them play, this could be fun.

      • Unless the strike is classified as an “economic” strike, then the government can “force” you to respond.

        • Let them try. By the time they can do anything, people in cities would be very hungry. How many trucks would suddenly not start? How many drivers will be sick? By the time the govt could react, the damage is huge.

        • Question are the independent (owner operator) truckers members of the Teamsters?

          • no…most are not.

          • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

            My late friend was a teamster in the time between his Navy discharge and his accounting degree. Long enough to qualify for a pension. He has been gone now for more than five years yet even then every time I saw him he would bemoan the demise of the Union.

            Like teh UAW, leadership is still in teh pocket of the democrats. As long as the union “bosses” get their fair share, F the members.

            • Ray Hawkins says:

              Stephen – so I admittedly feel like I don’t know what I don’t know about Unions – have family members who are Union. Seems they are both a blessing and a curse?

              • Ray, you are correct. I wrote a thesis on labor unions for my Master’s Degree……they are double edged and it were not for ruthless Companies back in the day, we would not have unions today…..sweat shops, child labor, press gangs, sub standard wages…etc brought about the unions of today. Company Management back in those days were primarily responsible for the labor unrest.

                Unions have their place…..I would rather negotiate with one person than 100. When the mob bosses of the 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s got their hands on the unions pension funds, things went to hell quickly. Things are much different now….

                I would recommend that you “bone” up on the terminology of open shop vs closed shop vs right to work states…..I think you will find why they are considered a pariah for the most part from the minds of management. And you will see the guardian angel side from the worker.

              • So, tell me, sir…

                How does one square the circle here?

                On the one hand, I think we all agree that unions are ripe for abuse and also protect those who shouldn’t be protected. They also tie the hands of management, reducing flexibility, and potentially “killing the golden goose.”

                On the other hand, I think we all agree that, without unions, labor is at an extreme disadvantage (see Walmart, Amazon). I won’t belabor the point as I’m sure you are well aware of kinds of things I’m talking about.

                So… is it just a pendulum? Management abuses labor –> labor unionizes and pushes back –> unions get corrupt / greedy –> management kills unions –> management goes back to abusing labor –> ad infinitum?

                I grant you the power of King for a Comment: How do you balance these interests? What rules and laws would you implement or repeal? The goal is to prevent either side from getting abused.

              • When the mob bosses of the 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s got their hands on the unions pension funds….. Isn’t this a big problem in Blue States that are asking for bailouts?

              • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

                Absolutely Ray, I was a member, my Dad was and My grandad. The problem started after unions won what they wanted then got greedy. Worse the union executives all live the VERY GOOD life. So while Teamster benefits have been substantially reduced over teh years, the “leadership” has not lost anything.

                The one and only time I had legitimate grievance, I was sold out by Harold H—–sen of NY’s DC 37 who after careful examination of the issue basically told me to F off. It would have upset his cozy relationship with the City arbitrators. Harold, a slightly smaller version of Jabba The Hut, had an office paid for with my dues covered in 8 X 10 photos of him on union jaunts to teh Caribbean and Hawaii where he made it a point of killing large fish. The walls of teh office contained teh stuffed remains of said victims.

                Three years later two former employees of mine were suing the city also legitimately. I was called as a witness, laid out what had been illegally done to them and they too lost. I have VERY mixed emotions about unions. Their routine support of a political party who brings in “cheap” labor to undercut their salaries says everything you need to know.

  9. Mr Hawkins, I am interested in your take on the Covid Vaccine. Have you taken it? If not why not? If so, why…..here is the reason that I ask….I just got back from the VA yesterday and I refused the vaccine….my doctor says that there is too much crap added to the vaccine and he will not take it……My spousal unit just notified my by phone that her doctor will not take it nor administer it because he does not like what is in it…….what are you finding out? Just out of curiosity.

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      Colonel – great question! We’re getting some mixed signals from our physicians. Full disclosure – my wife had major surgery the week before Christmas – so full lockdown two weeks prior and three after for recovery. Kids are still full time cyber school. Family doc has given thumbs up, specialists tied to wife’s surgery seemed little less confident. In-laws are both lifetime biochemists (MIL was a viral research chemist for GSK for 30+ years) – both of them have stated to get it as soon as possible. They are comfortable knowing the folks behind the vaccine and testing and the measures taken to produce it.

      Whole thing has left us a bit confused and angry. We’re leaning towards yes but still in the ‘asking questions’ phase.

      As a family we’re hitting breaking point. The isolation has had observable effects on both kids and straining all of us. Close friends have lost family due to covid. I’ve seen the toll it takes. We’re all better at washing hands, staying clean, getting healthier, etc. Patience has close to run out on how altered we’ve allowed our lives to become.

  10. Nothing like deceiving the public on day 1.

    • Currently at 4.3k thumbs-up / 15k thumbs down.

      Your picture is fake, though. Comments are disabled on all WH videos, so there can’t be 5.8k or 7.6k comments.

      Listening to it now… pointless.. just a bunch of softballs so far… god this is booooorrrrrrrriiiiiiiinnnnnngggggg!

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        I really want to know what kind of Ice Cream, he had last night before nighty bye.

        • Hard to say, but for some reason, his granddaughters dressed up for the inauguration as Neapolitan.. so there’s that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          • WASHINGTON, D.C.—With a new administration taking over, the White House press corps marked the special occasion by wearing their newly issued uniforms: blue and white cheerleading outfits emblazoned with Biden’s name.

            “Please don’t take this to mean we will not be fair and objective journalists during the Biden administration,” said Jim Acosta of CNN as he adjusted his skirt. “We will continue to go after the president like we always have– wait… Joe Biden is coming! EEEEEEEEEEE!” Acosta then began to jump up and down, shaking his pom-poms.

            “How dare you insinuate that I’m anything less than impartial when covering the president!” said MSNBC reporter Jane Seelie. “I’m a proud journalist and I have no problem holding Biden’s feet to the fire on questions about how his dogs are doing, or how he plans to protect our country from MAGA terrorists, or how he has so much stamina at his age. I will always ask the tough questions as long as he still gives me his autograph and lets me wear his jacket for the weekend.”

            The press corps went wild as Press Secretary Jen Psaki entered the room. Three young reporters in the front row fainted. From the back row, NBC Correspondent Peter Alexander let the group in a cheer.

            “Give me a B! Give me an I! Give me a D! Give me an E! Give me an N! What’s that spell? BIDEN!”

            “Fricka-fracka firecracker, sis boom bah, JOE BIDEN, JOE BIDEN, RAH RAH RAH!”

            “Yeah, we’re just having a bit of fun,” said Alexander. “We are very impartial and serious journalists. Trust us.”

  11. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-how-biden-could-solve-america-s-health-care-problems/ar-BB1cYepw

    This is from CNN. I thought Obamacare was the best thing since toilet paper?

    • I thought Obamacare was the best thing since toilet paper?

      Nobody – and I mean nobody actual thinks that.

      The right thinks it was evil and terrible and the death of all things good and holy about America.

      The left thinks it was a compromised half measure that was, at best, a tepid step in the right direction.

      For my money, all I know is that I don’t know nearly enough to have an informed opinion. That shit’s complicated. The only thing I can be pretty sure of is that the current system sucks if you aren’t rich or healthy or employed by someone with who provides insruance, and that it somehow seems to work better in Canada and the UK and Sweden and Switzerland and German and Austria and Belgium and Japan and Hong Kong and Singapore and Korea and France and Iceland and Ireland and Norway and …

      • Well, it was a gargantuan piece of legislation. I don’t think anyone alive could have known what impact it would have on healthcare when fully implemented. People always think of “Obamacare” as health insurance, but that was only a tiny part of it. It has had a huge impact on doctors and hospitals and how they care for patients and how they are paid.

        • No doubt!

          I’m unsure how it could be implemented in a manageable / controlled way. I do loathe “we’ll have to pass it to see what’s in it,” but I’m unsure of a better path than “take your best shot” see how that works out, adjust accordingly.

          Question for you, Mrs. Jennie… seeing as my understanding is that the ACA was, by and large, RomneyCare and, by and large, the Republican counteroffer to HillaryCare of the ’90s.. what do you make of the fact that they were so overtly hostile to it when Obama tried to do it? Do you think that the Red Team was operating in good faith or that they were just “against it because he was for it”? And, if so, do you think it would have been better served if they had worked in good faith to pass the best law they could?

          • I honestly don’t know enough about “Romneycare” or “Hillarycare” to comment on how they compare to “Obamacare” and I couldn’t say what red team was thinking when they opposed it (probably that opposing it would get them re-elected). I just know that my insurance is more expensive and covers less than it used to and my husband is always talking about the hoops the hospital is trying to jump through to get paid under the new rules.

            • https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/01/how_health_care_works_in_america_and_why_its_so_bad.html

              What is the financial benefit to the medical and drug industry to actually cure a patient. Isn’t that like killing the golden goose?

            • “There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government. And that’s close to 40% of our national income.” [Milton Friedman]

  12. U.S.—CNN and other media outlets praised President Biden for causing the sun to rise this morning.

    “The sun rose again this morning after a long absence,” said CNN anchor Don Lemon. “As the sunlight peaked over the mountains, bathing the earth in its warm, shimmering light, like the loving embrace of America’s new president, I felt a tingling sense of bubbling peace spring up in my soul and shoot out my fingertips as if I were an empty vessel being filled with some kind of intergalactic energy source used to power alien spaceships. I am a soul reborn. America has been made anew.”

    According to every credible journalist on TV, President Biden has ushered in an era of hope and light after 4 years of darkness.

    Chris Cuomo, in a morning address to the nation, echoed these sentiments, saying: “The midnight rains have washed away the hate and division of the past, like that one scene in The Lion King where Simba roars and Pride Rock is restored to its former glory. As my spirit briefly reflected on the pain and darkness of the last 4 years, I shed a single tear. The restoring rain, falling from the open skies, washed my tear away, never to be seen again. Hope has been reborn, and its name is Joe Biden.”

    Cuomo then went on to promise he would do his duty and cover the Biden Administration with the same journalistic toughness he had with the Trump Administration.

    Some scientific experts contested the idea that Biden had actually caused the sun to rise, instead suggesting that journalists had never bothered to notice the sunrise over the last 4 years because they were so preoccupied with how much they hated Trump.

    The scientific experts were quickly dismissed as bigots and have since been suspended from Twitter.

  13. Sir Mathius, trying to create a balance between unions, employees, and business is a toughie all around. We have had as high as 350 employees in 5 states at one time. We were smart enough to get out of that issue. However, prior to that, we had a small interest located in Jacksonville, Illinois. A trucking interest that hauled edible oils in tankers for Anderson/Clayton foods. When we inherited this, we inherited the Teamsters Union with and Illinois is a closed shop state. However, the drivers were as friendly a bunch as you could find but they were fiercely loyal to the Teamsters because of the hard ball the Teamster played. (Hanging pets from swing sets, was their best scare option).

    There is no one tactic that works other than…..are you ready for this….honesty. Since it was our only union terminal, we created a separate company with just that terminal. Our other terminals were non union. Negotiations with the the Teamsters were easy because all they wanted were union dues through what was termed “Dues Check-off” which meant that the company deducted the union dues and sent it to the union and their pension health and welfare fund. Basically, that is all they cared about. I found that they really did not care about the employees so much (a lot of lip service). I learned from the Teamsters how to play the game and what their real substance for existing was….and that was nothing but money. We could basically have any contract we wanted, with what ever work rules we wanted, if they got their pension money and union dues.

    When they would interact with other drivers from other states, they found out that our other drivers had it better off with more pay, up front, and a hell of a lot more freedom. Our tactics were simple. As a business we are entitled to a Profit and, to give the employees credit, they understood that it takes profit to operate a company for them to have a job. So all we wanted at that time was a 5% after tax net profit. We were very open about our balance sheets and operating statements and shared them with the employees so that they could see the numbers themselves. We also shared the tax returns of the company so they could compare the returns to the actual balance sheets and statements so they were comfortable that we were not blowing smoke up their butts. They could, if they so desired, hire their own accountants to verify the numbers. We would go to each terminal and have a full meeting with our employees and lay out a three year plan and let them ask any questions they wanted. As long as we got our 5% net after tax profit, they could have the rest however they wanted it. You should have seen some of the arguments among themselves….it was fun to watch how their interpretation to divide up what was left matched ours.

    In the end, we proposed a percentage of each invoice. They received 20% of each invoice for their labor and the same percentage of any extra charges. In this way, they could calculate what they were going to get on each run that they made. We had a first in/first out dispatch procedure instead of a seniority dispatch. We did not have a pension plan nor a health and welfare plan. Because we could not control pensions and health costs we then allowed an extra 1 percent of each load as a health and welfare cost and pension cost. They got to use that money however they wished. Some put that extra percentage back and some spent it. We also did have a matching 401k plan but very few took advantage of it. Our point of view is that we paid up front and we left it to the employee to determine how they spent their own money. For the hourly employees, we paid a base hourly wage. Since they were not on percentage pay and had no way to do so, and since the percentage pay was part of the cost of operation, then the only way an hourly pay could participate is making sure that the terminal made money. Each terminal was its own operating basis so they could help the terminal save money by keeping expenses down. anything over the 5% at each terminal was split among the hourly.

    When the Teamster drivers understood what we did, they wanted part of that. But they could not get that because the Teamster contract was quite rigid and specific. When the contract came due, we negotiated in good faith all of the money issues. The one thing we did not agree on was the dues checkoff. Since the dues check off is not a mandatory bargaining item, we held out and did not agree on it. This made the union responsible for billing the union dues to the drivers. Can you imagine, when mama started writing separate checks to the Teamsters and they actually saw how much it was…..the shit hits the fan. It was not long after that, they voted the Teamsters out.
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    Sorry for the Black Flag answer but honesty is the way to run a business, in our opinion. We made everybody a part of it and they shared in all profits over the 5% profit. Since trucking was/is a high depreciation business and depreciation is a cost, and the costs are built into the profit/loss, then everyone can see the picture. However, very few people understand cash flow. THAT is where business’ make their money.

    My point is, there is no one way or set of laws or set of rules that you can go by. Each company is by itself. It is how you treat your employees and make them part of a team. This is how you beat unions. Get employees involved in your bottom line. Be open and honest….a concept that seems to be lost today.

    • Wow, all that diatribe and I did not answer your question entirely. As I said, you do not need laws and lawyers and confrontation. If companies would just adopt a fair way of dealing with employees and asking their opinions, you would be surprised how far this goes. You do not need union shop, closed shop, open shop right to work laws then. So as King for a day, I guess I am saying that there is no wave of the wand to settle issues. Yes, there would be malcontents but employees are smart and they are innovative. Management that does not listen and involve them creates problems. We had malcontents but the majority shut them up. To this day, we have independents working for us and we do not have the employee costs. They are part of the team. We pay them fairly or as fairly as we can and we are open with the books. There should be nothing to hide. AND it does not matter about minimum wage laws…every one is on a percentage. The only thing that would hurt us, is doing away with independent contractors. If that were to happen we know and they know we simply shut down.

      So, training management is the only option (as I see it) ….but….I wonder how far that would go. I wonder how many companies would share their books (the real books) with their employees.

    • Questions:

      A) Do you think a more liquid labor pool would help alleviate these kinds of issues. That is, if labor doesn’t like their employer and had more flexibility to leave and find new work easier and with less risk, do you think that a “free market solution” would, by-and-large, handle much of the major gripes which unions ostensibly seek to cure? That is, if Company A treats employees like cattle and it were easier / economically-safer for employees to find other work, that employees would leave Company A forcing it to either change or die, resulting in a better overall situation?

      —-
      STOP: Answer that before going on.
      —-

      B) Do you think that the threat of bankruptcy and/or lack of medical insurance contributes to an illiquidity within the labor market? That is, if I weren’t concerned about losing my health care, I might more readily leave a shitty employer. Likewise, if underpaid employees made enough to build up a modest reserve, they could better afford the risk of leaving for greener pastures. Taken together or separately, would not these two items contribute to a far more liquid labor market?

      • Ok…where is Mathius…this question is certainly not Mathius….I mean, it is logical and well thought out.

        Great question sir, and I cheated. Of course I was not going to stop on the first question. But, I think that I have a great answer..however, I do want to think on it….so you may not get the answer until later tonight but I will answer it. Because you and I are doing what 90 percent of the country is not doing…. dialogue. But, I will not tell Biden/Harris that you are doing this….you might get AOC on your doorstep.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Nicely done. Something my Dad and I would mull over in the 1960’s when the Newspaper Unions in NYC caused the closing of four papers in two years. They had tried to survive by merging into one new paper, “The World Journal Tribune” which published for 100 days. The end came when after guaranteeing full salary to retirement to the redundant workers who no longer did tasks like typesetting and bundling, the union DEMANDED that the new Corporation adhere to hiring their children, as had been done in the past for jobs no longer existing.

      Proof of my rule that there are many who are quite content with 100% of nothing (we won!) rather than 50% of something.

      Dad’s solution, for pretty much everything was quite similar to yours, profit sharing across the board, books open to everybody to see. We make money, you make money! In the hotel trades, he liked the idea because the crackerjack workers would have some incentive to kick the asses of the deadwood. My dad was a practical man who was more or less banned from union meetings after a particularly long 1950’s strike. He went to the meeting after settlement and stood up saying something like “Do you realize that even with the raise, it will take us all seven years to make up for the money we lost during the strike?” I loved the guy!

  14. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    Biden’s new mantra.

    “Make America Second Rate Again”

    MASRA

    I suggest bright yellow hats.

  15. Mathius, you and I are going to have to get on the same page on health care…if those countries are so great on their health care, then why are the greatest percentage of them trying to get out of it? From what I read, they are mostly NOT happy with and that includes Sweden and Finland and such…..even the english do not like their system, or so I am reading.

    If you will try again…..to teach me how to post links…I would appreciate it. You tried once….it did not take.

    • In the link bar at the top of the page (starts with http://), highlight the url address. Press control-c (hold down the control key and press “c”). Go to the SUFA comment block and with the cursor in the block press control-v). The link should appear. It will not be highlighted but will be highlighted when you post the comment.

      control-c means copy
      control-v means paste

      These commands work in nearly all Windows applications such as Word, Excel etc.

    • if those countries are so great on their health care, then why are the greatest percentage of them trying to get out of it?

      Odd…

      • That’s why we should never go there. Once you start a government program, you can never get rid of it no matter how stupid. See ethanol subsidies.

        • Having worked for an oil company when oxygenates were added to fuels, I can tell you that the very reason for their addition is no longer present in modern engines. They are completely unnecessary, are harmful to the engine and reduce mileage. I have told the tale before here and can do it again on request. Ethanol as a fuel is a waste of money.

      • Once a social (entitlement) program is started, it is virtually impossible to get rid of.

        Mathius, take your SS payments and and work out the return you would get if you invested the money yourself instead of giving it to the government. Not only will you be significantly better off in old age, the left over money will be inheritable. It is yours not the governments. Our current system encourages people to spend now instead of saving in the belief that something magical will happen at the age of 65. Now, I know your response. Current payments go to support current retirees. But does it have to be that way for eternity? Can we do better? Can we do better without giving our money to government? Can we progress by getting government out of the way?

      • Just A Citizen says:

        LIAR. Damn LIAR.

        Every one has reduced its Govt portion and increased Private coverage in hopes of solving the problems created by their Govt Health Programs.

        FAKE NEWS should be banned from the Internet. So whey is this ass clowns garbage not banned?????

  16. Think back to the late ’70s and early ’80s. Sorry Mathius, you will need to listen at the knees of us old folken. Gas and fuel prices were sky high. Home heating costs in the snow belt was through the roof. Technology came to the rescue, old technology that is. The wood stove industry was revived in a couple of short years. We started heating houses using wood in fire places and wood stoves. I built heat exchanger grates for your fireplaces. Pushed air through them using an old hair dryer. Worked great. Naturally we regressed to a dirtier form of heat which released significant CO2. It also required significantly more labor. But people are not going to freeze or be bankrupted by high fuel costs without seeking an alternative. At the time Exxon (who I worked for) was predicting oil to exceed $50/bbl an astronomical price at the time. They were investing massively in shale oil using a mining type process (pre fracking). Some of our engineers argued, this is silly because people will find an alternative. They did and Exxon lost $2B on the venture.

    Why is this significant? Biden is killing the pipeline and stopping leases and fracking on Federal land. History repeats itself.

    • I remember. It was the late 70’s when Dad installed the wood stove because the cost of fuel oil was sky high and we could not afford it any longer. I was 10 years old when I started cutting/splitting/stacking firewood. We had an axe and a maul the first year. Dad decided that was a little too much work and bought a chainsaw the next year. We still spent many summers splitting wood with a maul. Even after I grew up and moved into my own place, it only took one winter of $500+ electric bills before I converted to heating with wood. I still heat with wood to this day. I have a hydraulic splitter, now. I hope to never have to use a maul again. 🙂

  17. Ray Hawkins says:

    Data point of one here – but most of the volume locally here I am getting is anger over killing Keystone. Not a good move by Biden and Co. Lot of folks watching the price of gas AND key everyday commodities to assess not just Joe but the down ballot folks coming up in 2022.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Ray

      I think they honestly believe we will forget and/or forgive. Because the pain of the Global Climate “Crisis” will be so great we must make sacrifices now.

      Do the pain now and hope that in 4 years it will be forgotten. But you nailed it with respect to 2yrs.

  18. Ray Hawkins says:

    Forgive me if this was put out here prior to Holidays…..but one of the original SUFA posters (“Bonnie”) passed away before the Holidays. Bonnie was mom to a mutual friend of US Weapon and I. God rest her soul and appreciate that she could share her thoughts with us here for even a brief moment of time.

    • Sorry to hear that.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Mother of Richmond Spitfire perhaps??

      Pass on our condolences to your mutual friend.

      • No. I remember her. Her daughter was Rani Something. Matter of fact… I have good reason to remember her. She was around the same day I got into it with Mathius pretty hard. I can retrieve a comment real quick…after reading this comment, I realize it wasn’t the one I was after. USW made a comment to her once where he clearly stated his love for Bonnie. Sympathies to to all her loved her.

        Bonnie Carniello says:
        January 19, 2010 at 11:40 pm
        Life of Illusion
        Can anyone say “Freedom of Religion”- who wants to spend money to remove “In God We Trust” from all of the National buildings-start with DC. Somebody give me a Jesus rifle and I know how to use it and so does my daughter whose running for office! Many people forget that this country was founded by a “Christian” community of people. If you can’t embrace it, turn away! I don’t mind when other religions tout their things. Could we just respect other religions period?

        You can sell your General Electric stock to make a statement. That will send a message.

        I’m so tired of apologizing to all of the people who want to stay politically correct in every direction and all of you yelling racist-get over it, a black President was elected!

        D13-Actually having to wear a seatbelt saved my life after a really bad accident. I was hit in my door as a truck ran a red light. I would have gone through the windshield if not for the seatbelt. I didn’t grow up wearing one either, but I do think they help, not hurt.

        Mathius-roadside litter is usually done by people in local jails. It beats sitting in cells 24-7 using toilet paper and saves the state hiring people to do it, they are paying the people in jail anyway.

        Someone mentioned people liking the “Little House on the Prarie” days. I come from that in my family, a small town near Appomatox, Virginia called Saxe. My great-great grandfather started a tobacco farm on 132 acres and oh by the way my Great Aunt born in 1899 lived to 92. They grew their own vegetables and cured their own meats. What a concept! And the ground was peppered with chemicals that are outlawed today. And my Great Aunt had two sons in the Air Force who died in WWII and they adopted two boys and raised and educated them.

        All of you who are concerned about the chemicals in the food could grow your own even if you don’t own land. Plants will actually grow in pots! I stopped eating beef for the most part when the mad cow thing happened. I only buy buffalo. It is leaner and healthier anyway. You have to stand responsible for what you eat and what’s in it.

        Someone once told me if you’re in a line of cows and they’re not coming back, get out of the line! I think America sent that message tonight by voting in Scott Brown and his truck with 200,001 miles on it! One if my land, two if by sea! If its to be, its up to me!

        Just A Citizen says:
        January 20, 2010 at 12:22 am
        Bonnie

        Loved your comments this evening. Give Rani my best.

        Just tell her JAC said howdy. She’ll know.

        Big hug for you this evening
        JAC:

        • Ray Hawkins says:

          @Anita…..yes! Rani Merryman is Bonnie’s daughter.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Anita

          Well done. I remembered a few hours after posting. As I recall Rani tried running for office in Maryland during the Tea Party uprising.

    • Very sorry to hear that.

    • Sorry to hear that, Ray.

  19. Sir Mathius…..I am going to answer your questions in two different segments. I thought about this most of the evening. So here goes, to open the discussions.

    A) Do you think a more liquid labor pool would help alleviate these kinds of issues.
    An interesting thought and on the surface, perhaps.

    That is, if labor doesn’t like their employer and had more flexibility to leave and find new work easier and with less risk, do you think that a “free market solution” would…… There is nothing preventing labor from moving around now, that is a given. Labor, any labor, does have the flexibility to up and move. You use the term “free market solution”…. it is what we have now. Then you use the terms to “find work easier” and combine that with “less risk”. It is easy to find work. Just peruse the newspapers around the country. There is plenty of work but you have to seek it and move there to find it. There will always be risk. You cannot take risk out of anything. Every night you go to bed you take a risk that your significant other does not beat you to death in your sleep, verdad?

    …..by-and-large, handle much of the major gripes which unions ostensibly seek to cure? No sir, here is where you and I part company some. Unions do not “seek” to cure these ills. Unions were never around to “help the poor man”…Unions are a business just like any other. They are in business to make a profit….full stop. Laborers are just a tool for them and to get laborers in the unions, the unions make promises but the unions do not provide the benefits..the company still does. Most labor unions fall under the tax code 501 (c) 5 or 501 (c) 3. And just like most organizations, the top echelon are very rich. When dealing with the Teamsters Union, I found out that their “profit” margin was heavily dependent upon their own health and welfare plan and their own pension plan. They did not shop around. They did not seek out the less expensive firms. They got cut rate deals but did not pass them on to the employer. So, no, I know how unions work and I do not think that unions seek out to help. It is a disguise.

    That is, if Company A treats employees like cattle and it were easier / economically-safer for employees to find other work, that employees would leave Company A forcing it to either change or die, resulting in a better overall situation? Good in theory but I am not so sure about application. I know where you are headed with this and it will be addressed in phase two of your question.

  20. B) Do you think that the threat of bankruptcy and/or lack of medical insurance contributes to an illiquidity within the labor market? No sir, I do not. Bankruptcy is an absolute. You can threaten it all you want and that is a weapon that some employers used to use to try to “keep the masses” in line. Employers used that tool to try to appeal to the sympathies of the employees. Employers that use this as a leverage do not deserve to be in business….unless they are telling the truth. The term transparency gets thrown around a lot in government and each side is adversarial about it…this is so frigging wrong. If employers were open about there books, then I surmise you would not have the problem. We did it and it worked. We have been non union since 1980. So, threatening bankruptcy is a non starter and I do not think employees pay attention to it now.

    That is, if I weren’t concerned about losing my health care, I might more readily leave a shitty employer. I am sure that this is true, to some extent, but it does not alleviate the personal choice you are making. You are choosing to stay there. I DO NOT buy into the mantra that you do not have choices…of course you have choices. If you choose to simply lower yourself (and that is what it is) just to stay with a crappy employer because of health insurance, then you deserve what you get.

    Likewise, if underpaid employees made enough to build up a modest reserve, they could better afford the risk of leaving for greener pastures. Noble thought but you are headed for minimum wages here. There are other avenues.

    Taken together or separately, would not these two items contribute to a far more liquid labor market? yes and no……most people do not move because they cannot afford it, they do not move because their roots are there. They sacrifice a lot of things to stay where they are.
    ==============

    In conclusion, a liquid labor force would be ideal but it would not fall under a “free market” solution. Correct me if I am wrong here, but you are headed towards some government program to make people more flexible to create a liquid labor pool. But I think it would create the opposite effect. I am open to discussion……where would you like to start? I see only two choices in your questions….one leading to minimum wage and one leading to universal health care or a form of it……yes?

  21. Ray Hawkins says:

    2022 Senate Races….

    Burr (R-North Carolina) and Toomey (R-PA) retiring. Both seats stay in the red column IMO.

    Of interest:

    Kelly (D-Arizona)
    Warnock (D-GA)
    Masto (D-Nevada)
    Johnson (R-Wisconsin)

    I think Johnson retains his seat but will be close. That leaves three races on interest – all D’s that could turn R (esp GA).

    The Democrat grassroots machine collapsed after the ’08 + the Tea Party really changed the calculus. A weak or paint-by-the-numbers Biden administration plus expected party infighting between progressives and moderates I think gives reason to buy lots of popcorn for the horror show.

    I don’t think Trump will be a distraction into 2022 – that base he had does want/need a younger/fresher version. If the GOP falls asleep at the wheel anything can and will happen (DJT proved that). People like me can whine and bitch about bad orange people – but “x’ million people have already said long-greasy-mullet-hair-don’t-care…..we still want someone that will disrupt (or do enough to make us feel like they’ll disrupt).

    • Ray Hawkins says:

      @G-man – who replaces Toomey? Only name I’ve heard so far is Lt Gov Fetterman (he of social media fame). I’m wondering if guys like Mastriano aren’t too stunk up from the 2020 election? Santorum is still young but….CNN. Any Mayors out there in Pennsytuckey that can marshal support?

      • I haven’t heard any names just yet, but if State Congresswomen Kathy Rapp would run I would vote for her in a heartbeat.

    • Yes, a big deal is made of Biden’s 80 or 81million votes….and very little made of Trump’s 74 or 75 million votes. The Dems tout this…and let them…….they do not see the 74 or 75 million votes as a problem……they will. Let the crap happen…

  22. The Keystone pipeline stoppage is about as dumb as dumb gets. Now, the oil will move via train and thats far more dangerous than the pipeline. But, the environuts are now happy.

    CNN stopped the Covid death ticker on day one of the Biden era.

    https://nationalfile.com/as-biden-became-president-medical-journal-quietly-retracted-study-that-claimed-hydroxychloroquine-is-ineffective/
    More lies that are now being fixed. I have no trust in any of these people anymore.

  23. Interesting….Biden’s new “Buy American” business plan is getting accolades…..isn’t this an America First plan? Wonder where we have heard this before.

  24. Ray Hawkins says:

    Not sure why I’m posting this….but what the hell. Good grief.

    “Someone telling Joe Biden through an ear piece to salute the marines, instead of saluting he says, “salute the marines” to them.”

  25. Ray Hawkins says:

    Trump incited an erection? I knew his supporters were passionate but…..

    • You heard that right. It lasted 4 years on SUFA.

      Gman should really see a doctor.

    • That’s hilarious. Last year our daughter made the all state orchestra, and before the final performance at the end of camp, the director stood up and said “we would like to thank all of our sexual ( instead of sectional) coaches.” My husband and I looked at each other like, “what kind of camp did we just send our daughter to?”

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Sad part is that in this day and age you can’t be sure the director was being honest.

  26. Stephen K. Trynosky says:
    • Name that tune. Its my fight song for anything Trump, I’d recognize it anywhere. 3, 2, 1….

      American Dreamer, by Jacob Seals of RSBN, brother and probably half owner of RSBN with Joe Seals. In 2016, RSBN didn’t have copyrights to the music played at Trump rallies, so Jacob used this tune, no words, to cover over the music played when Trump entered the rallies.

  27. Just finished the headlines on all the major news outlets…….not one mention of the riots in Portland/Seattle/other places…..only on Fox. Wonder hwy that is. As a matter of fact, CNN’s Blitzer says they are not worth of reporting…..Wonder why?

    No need to answer, thank you,.

  28. Canine Weapon says:

    • I like Cruz’s mask. Does hers have a gold chain attached to it? She really doesn’t seem to be all there.

  29. Well, well, well…………….I see that Biden is ordering troops back to Syria. Bet you do not read this in the media.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      He will NOT be happy until he gets us in a shooting war with the Russians which of course the Chinese will love.

  30. Just A Citizen says:

    As Murray Rothbard illustrated in Anatomy of the State, “What the State fears above all, of course, is any fundamental threat to its own power and its own existence.” A vital part of the state’s existence is its ability to justify its action with a mantle of “legitimacy”—which in an age of democracy comes from the notion of the “consent of the governed.”

    The result of 50+ million Americans viewing the next president as a fraud imposed on the people is an inauguration taking place in a Washington, DC, that resembles a warzone, surrounded by soldiers whom the regime does not trust with their own ammo.

    The downside of America’s regime acting from a place of fear is that it is likely to ruthlessly lash out like most violent predators tend to do. Since the actions at the Capitol on January 6, the corporate press has elevated a collection of “terrorism experts” who have explicitly called for the tools formed in the war on terror to be turned inward to deal with the growing Trump “insurrectionist threat.”

    • Just A Citizen says:

      As Bertrand de Jouvenel has sagely pointed out, through the centuries men have formed concepts designed to check and limit the exercise of State rule; and, one after another, the State, using its intellectual allies, has been able to transform these concepts into intellectual rubber stamps of legitimacy and virtue to attach to its decrees and actions. Originally, in Western Europe, the concept of divine sovereignty held that the kings may rule only according to divine law; the kings turned the concept into a rubber stamp of divine approval for any of the kings’ actions. The concept of parliamentary democracy began as a popular check upon absolute monarchical rule; it ended with parliament being the essential part of the State and its every act totally sovereign.

    • . Since the actions at the Capitol on January 6, the corporate press has elevated a collection of “terrorism experts” who have explicitly called for the tools formed in the war on terror to be turned inward to deal with the growing Trump “insurrectionist threat.”

      If I were planning a Civil War (against the Left) or a Revolution (against the government) my plans would begin with the corporate press, or should I say, they would be turned off. Every talking head would be taken ( I haven’t decided what to do with them yet). Then, the word would go out to all employees of said press, stay home, or join your comrades.

      OK what’s next 😀

  31. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    Why it was so difficult to vote for Donald Trump if you liked his policies for the country has always left me confused.
    Trump was like going to the dentist, sometimes painful, unpleasant, scary but NECESSARY if you like steak.

    • Everyone wants style and substance in a leader. Trump had substance but no style. Biden has style which is fading and no or wrong substance. The media over reacted to Trump’s style and under reacted to his substance. Similarly they under reported Biden’s flaws and did not challenge his substance. On top of that, they followed up on Hillary’s deplorable label to make Trump supporters feel inferior and Biden supporters superior.

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        Personally I always thought Biden a pig. His “tough guy” stories are those of a wanna be bully . You know, the guy in high school with the big mouth who challenges you to an after school fight in the hallway then is nowhere to be found at 3PM. So, style wise he comes off as Walter Mitty trying to channel Andre the Giant.

  32. Just A Citizen says:
  33. Just A Citizen says:

    Sometimes they just flat out let you know who they are at heart. This is priceless.

    Democrats Have a Values Problem. But Here’s How They Can Fix It.
    Americans say they prize freedom more that equality, which means Democrats need to find the right words to convince people to support their equality-boosting agenda.

    By JAMES PILTCH James Piltch is a writer focused on civic life. He worked as a speechwriter on a Democratic Senate campaign in 2020.

    This was the lead into an article by Mr. Piltch published by Politico.

  34. T-Ray Once a social (entitlement) program is started, it is virtually impossible to get rid of.

    For this reason, I’m seeing people in my more liberal circles advocating for zero restraint for the next two years. Pass universal health care and affordable college and an inflation-linked minimum wage and and and…. and then fucking dare the Republicans to try to repeal them.

    It’s one thing to try to stop these things from happening in the first place.. but to take them away from people once given…?

    Hard to argue with the tactical logic of it.

    • It makes perfect tactical sense. It is what I would do in their place. I would do it because Republicans and most conservatives do not have the balls to stand up. The true patriot crowd is gone…those that stormed the beaches of Normandy are no longer and their independent drive has died with them. Very few of us left.

      I will ask our resident lefty…..sorta lefty……Why would you, or your ilk, give up being energy dependent?

      • I would do it because Republicans and most conservatives do not have the balls to stand up.

        They are already bitching about the debt and deficit. Don’t think for a second they’re not going to spend the next two years digging in their heels and trying to stop this administration from doing anything it wants.

        The true patriot crowd is gone…those that stormed the beaches of Normandy are no longer and their independent drive has died with them. Very few of us left.

        Mr. The Colonel.

        This offends me.

        Honestly and sincerely.

        I had to delete and re-type this response several times to dial it down to something more moderate.

        You know for DAMNED sure that I am a patriot. And that there are others on my side who love this country and want what’s best for it, too.

        You do not claim the corner on patriotism.

        Just because we do not agree with you about your vision of an anachronistic America does not mean that you, and the generation before yours, get to define what it means to be a patriot.

        I have spent a decade on this fucking website arguing the case of the left with you. A decade. If this is the impression I have given you of myself and those who generally agree with me after all this time, then it has been time wasted.

        Why would you, or your ilk, give up being energy dependent?

        False dichotomy, I think.

        The question isn’t “giving up being energy dependent,” but rather “shifting to different sources.”

        We can be energy independent with wind, solar, and nuclear without having to burn coal or oil.

        • I am glad you threw nuclear in the mix because wind and solar just will not supply the energy we need. But I do not plan on driving a nuclear powered car.

          The purpose of the push to green is based upon the big lie that green house gases especially CO2, are driving climate. But of course, you have been suckered into believing the lie hence feel that drastic measures are required to right this wrong. So your solution is to cover the earth in solar cells and bird chomping windmills to collect low density photos and intermittent wind currents, mine and refine vast quantities of rare earth minerals, lithium and copper. The copper is needed for the five fold increase in grid capacity to charge all the vehicles. Trucks will convert to electricity but their range and utilization rates will decrease significantly since charging times for the quantity of energy they use ill be longer. Hence we will need more trucks since we need to idle a large part of the fleet during recharge.

          Now we come to oil. The number of products that come from oil is astounding. Virtually anything made of plastic, textiles, pharmaceuticals, etc. come out of oil. However, the vast majority of a barrel of oil goes into transportation and heating fuels, such as LP, gasoline, kerosene, jet fuel, fuel oil, bunker fuel (power plants and ships). The bottoms, asphalt goes on the roads. Carbon goes into tires and steel. I don’t know if you know this but gasoline is often the garbage dump of a refinery. Any light liquids that can’t be used for chemicals need to be disposed of so they get mixed into the gasoline. What are you going to do with the portion of a vast barrel of oil that does not go into chemicals if you cannot burn it?

        • Sir Mathius,

          This offends me. Honestly and sincerely.

          My apologies if I have offended you…but I do not know why. I have never accused you of not being Patriotic…not once…..I have accused, and I sincerely believe, that most of the left is…but you are not a typical leftist. Not from what I am seeing and/or reading.

          But I will stand by this…… The true patriot crowd is gone…those that stormed the beaches of Normandy are no longer and their independent drive has died with them. This is something that I do believe. I do not think for one minute that the Rosie the Riveter attitude will ever be back. This country could not get together now if the very life of the country depended on it. This country is divided and has been since the 70’s…..This is what I believe and I am entitled to my belief. If you are including yourself in this, then that is something you will have to deal with….just like you do not lump me in the “kool aid” crowd…..I do not lump you in the far left or socialist crowd…quite the contrary because of your employment. The very job you have goes against what I THINK….read this carefully….WHAT I THINK the left really stands for…..I am not going to see you in the “gimme everything” line because every thing I know of you is contrary to that and that makes you contrary to the Sanders/Biden/Harris crowd on most of their agenda…..but I know this.

          But it is not you that should be offended, it is the generations before you that should. I love your perspective on things but allow me mine.

        • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

          Talking to somebody elsewhere and pulled this up about “batteries” would add, most people advocating electric vehicles seem to have no clue where or how the electricity used to charge said batteries comes from. I keep coming back to hydrogen” as probably the best alternative though you still need electricity to “crack” it.

          The know-it-all Fauci types around the world have mostly given up on any alternative to hydrocarbons other than all electric. Big mistake.

          https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium-batteries-environment-impact

    • Why is it that the Democratic solutions to problems are the most expensive solutions? Healthcare is expensive because of government involvement. More government involvement will just increase the cost while actually hiding the true cost. Same goes for education. The more government subsidies it, the more it costs. Spending other peoples money on other people is the worst possible scenario. Minimum wage laws have repeatedly shown to be noneffective and counter productive. Raising the minimum wage will increase the rate of automation, reduce the number of jobs, increase inflation, and drive more employers to the black market which you are increasing the pool of workers by unlimited immigration. Mathius, it is time you grew up. Utopia does not exist.

      • Mathius, it is time you grew up.

        Oh, fuck off.

        How fucking dare you belittle me and condescend to me in this fashion.

        How fucking DARE you write off my opinions and beliefs as simple immaturity.. oh, but if he only just “grew up,” he’d see the errors of his ways and believe what I do.

        Fuck that.

        Your generation’s immaturity, selfishness, greed, and shortsightedness created the the problems of the modern world, and you dare to tell me that I need to grow up for trying to fix your generation’s mistakes?

        Utopia does not exist.

        I’m not arguing that and ever have been.

        And you damned well know it.

        I, and those who are of like mind, are trying to operate and plan for the 21st century.

        It isn’t 1940 anymore.

        Maybe you need to grow up.

      • Why is it that the Democratic solutions to problems are the most expensive solutions?

        Because Republicans are chronically, biologically, physiologically incapable of looking past the next five minutes.

      • Mathius has been offended. It happens. But the questions are legit, especially after Biden has destroyed some 70K jobs and ruined women’s sports in his first few days. If the Crats get 15 bucks an hour for minimum, over 1.3 million jobs will be lost and an unknown number of small business’s (from what’s left after Covid lockdowns).

        Not having fossil fuels will never work and it’s really dumb to think it will. This is all about money and control.

    • The Chinese are probing Taiwan airspace. We sent more troops (~200) into Syria. Did Biden order this or did the Joint Chiefs just do it? When will N. Korea start causing problems? When does Iran start acting up again? If Biden is viewed as weak, they will test the limits of a addled headed US.

      • The Chinese are probing Taiwan airspace. Yes, they started this in November, 2020.

        We sent more troops (~200) into Syria. Yes, 1/2 combat and 1/2 support.

        Did Biden order this or did the Joint Chiefs just do it? Biden did. I already reported it and the Joint Chiefs can not wipe their collective butts unless the CIC orders it.

        When will N. Korea start causing problems? Great question and I have no insight. Probably when China tells them to do so.

        When does Iran start acting up again? They never stopped.

        If Biden is viewed as weak, they will test the limits of a addled headed US. Addled or not, he is perceived as weak already. Trump was feared because he was a loose cannon…it never went off and Trump de-escalated many areas…they are pretty sure that he will not de-escalate and has proven otherwise because he believes that the regime in Syria needs to change. But, we shall see…..

        What you need to really watch is the South China Sea…..this is going to be the key. If the two carrier groups that are there now are moved………then I think you will see the invasion of Taiwan. My opinion, of course, but I am a chess player. A rather good one. Were it my move, and the carriers groups are moved out………..I would attack. No one will stop them.

  35. It’s one thing to try to stop these things from happening in the first place.. but to take them away from people once given…? You mean like New York governor Cuomo’s TEMPORARY tax increase he wants?

  36. Fireworks beginning today in Austin…..Legislature is in session….REDISTRICTING is the first item. The budget is already to go with minor tweaks and we can do it without tax increases but redistricting is going to be fun to watch,…The Republicans have the House and Senate and the Governor and LT Governor, and the Attorney General.

    • REDISTRICTING is the first item.

      • Stupid, isn’t it……but it is the way it is for now…….what should be done is a comparison of all the districts…..both Republican and Democratic alike. They all look like this…..and will continue to look like this until someone comes up with a better way. The party in power will draw the lines….right now the Republicans are in power….when the Dems were, they did the exact same thing…..it is all about being elected…….and what is funny……these are not full time paid positions and the legislature only meets every two years…..but, even in Texas, power is power……it will change when the dems control it…..

  37. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    The January 6th death at the Capitol of Officer Brian Sicknick is tragic yet, 19 days later there is still no autopsy report on his cause of death. Does anyone have any REAL information other than speculation? We have heard everything from hitting his head in a fall to being hit with a fire extinguisher yet with such a public, visible crime, no report.

    • Tucker had an issue with this a few nights ago. So if a major network does not have the answers, who does? We keep hearing that there are 5 dead, but the last one was a suicide a couple of days later. How does that qualify? We know about Ms. Babbitt being shot but very little about the officer behind the gun. Tucker said one other died from injuries in the Capitol and that was a woman who was trampled. The other 2 I would have to conclude were medical incidents outside the building, one being a heart attack. In such a large crowed in cold weather, medical emergencies are to be expected.

    • I posted links awhile back. The best I can say is that the links said he died of a medical issue involving his lungs and had a stroke. His brother talked to him and said that he saod he was fine, only got pepper sprayed twice, no mention of being hit.

  38. Steve Hilton on his show last night went into the origins of the Wuhan virus. Fauci is an advocate of actively altering a virus to make it human transmissible presumably to study the transmission properties. Obama, in one of his smarter moves, realized the danger of this an outlawed it in 2014. To get around the ban, Fauci funded a friend in NY to study bat viruses. This individual then subcontracted some of this money to the Wuhan Lab. This is in addition to the funding we already knew about where Fauci directly funded the lab to the tune of $3.4M. The laundered funding was much larger and specifically for human transmittable bat virus studies. The net result is that Fauci got his pandemic so he could be the hero.

  39. Ok SUFA-ites. I do not identify with any political party. I tout myself as independent but I am conservative by nature. There are liberal republicans I have voted against and there are conservative Democrats I have voted for……..but what I see the Republicans doing now….bothers me.

    Why are they all of a sudden concerned about the deficit when they were not before…It is about obstructionism….nothing more and no different than the Democrats. I think that if everyone would take a breather, I think you will find that there are some moderate Democrats that will trim this budget back….but that remains to be seen. Too much tit for tat.

    • What I have seen and still see is “send money, send money”. While I’m a registered Independent, I have not and will never send money to a politician. The whole lot of them are not on my side or Mathius’s side or any of our sides. It’s a damn ruse to keep people thinking they matter. The corruption is unfixable. I do not worry about the debt, why bother? Maybe destroying the dollar is what it will take for people to wake up and rid ourselves of these parasites.

  40. Sir Mathius……off politics to business……………….I just heard a term that I have not heard before and since this is down your alley…………I think I heard the term “Short Swing”…..and that short sellers might be in trouble right now……what is short swing (or terminology such as that).

  41. I see that indoctrination is just as bad in Texas as everywhere else:

    https://www.rt.com/usa/513558-son-reports-father-fbi-capitol/amp/

  42. Liberal policies, in a video.

  43. The Office of Former President Donald J Trump!

    I don’t care, say what you want, I love this! Best troll ever. He should have named it Office of the 45th President, then former is never mentioned. I can’t wait to see what he puts in his library.

  44. Question of the day:

    By what authority can Congress Impeach a private citizen?

  45. T Ray……your China question is coming full circle, it appears. China has mobilized 200,000 troops and mechanized divisions, has moved 4 destroyers into international waters 200 miles from Taiwan, and has probed Taiwan airspace over 40 times in two days. They are obviously watching the US response. There will be no response from the UN nor Russia. Now, tactics and logistics are my forte’ as far as the military is concerned although I have nothing to do with the International scene except for the Mexico border. Here is my prediction. China sees Taiwan as a run away step child. They want it back. It is an economic powerhouse in that area.

    The secret is going to be US response. When China flexed its muscles last time, we flexed ours but Trump dropped the ball and let China set up military bases in international waters when he should have “deeped six” the naval fleet there. The UN was silent and still is. Now China has built up reefs and has a deep water submarine base right in the heart of the International Trade Route of the South China Sea…smack dab in the middle of it. They can close this trade route anytime they want and the only response capable of stopping them is the US. The reason China did not move more boldly is because they did not trust the loose cannon approach of Trump. No one had an inkling of what Trump would do…He did nothing. But he did move two carrier units to that area when Taiwan was threatened and China did back off. Now, it is different.

    By mobilizing the 200,000 troops, intelligence has confirmed that they are made up of the type of troops that would be an invasion force. They have moved several transport type of aircraft to the same location as the troop buildup. So, they are staging…very much like we did during the Desert Storm area (Kuwait). So, their intentions are out there for everyone to see.

    Now, here is the problem we, the United States, has. Democratic President Jimmy Carter abrogated the mutual defense treaty with Taiwan. The UN, at China’s insistence, does not recognize Taiwan as an independent state. No other POTUS, Trump included, has tried to re-install the mutual defense treaty.

    So, I put this to you…………….Taiwan is a red headed step child….China wants it back. They are staging to do just that. What would you do, in this instance, and why would you do it.

    Here are the ramifications if we do not intervene……China dominance and TOTAL control of the International Shipping Lanes of the South China Sea. Russia is already on record that they will do nothing because those shipping lanes do not affect them very much. The UN will do nothing because they do not recognize China as a sovereign state. So, what do you do?

  46. T Ray…..for us to continue to batter the elections is not solving any problems. So, from now on, I am focusing on the policies of the administration and the potential impact to the US.

    Your China question is coming full circle, it appears. China has mobilized 200,000 troops and mechanized divisions since the election and has moved 4 destroyers into international waters 200 miles from Taiwan and has probed Taiwan airspace over 40 times in two days. They are obviously watching the US response. There will be no response from the UN nor Russia. Now, tactics and logistics are my forte’ as far as the military is concerned although I have nothing to do with the International scene except for the Mexico border. Here is my prediction. China sees Taiwan as a run away step child. They want it back. It is an economic powerhouse in that area.

    The secret is going to be US response. When China flexed its muscles last time, we flexed ours but Trump dropped the ball and let China set up military bases in international waters when he should have “deeped six” the naval fleet there. The UN was silent and still is. Now China has built up reefs and has a deep water submarine base right in the heart of the International Trade Route of the South China Sea…smack dab in the middle of it. They can close this trade route anytime they want and the only response capable of stopping them is the US. The reason China did not move more boldly is because they did not trust the loose cannon approach of Trump. No one had an inkling of what Trump would do…He did nothing. But he did move two carrier units to that area when Taiwan was threatened and China did back off. Now, it is different.

    By mobilizing the 200,000 troops, intelligence has confirmed that they are made up of the type of troops that would be an invasion force. They have moved several transport type of aircraft to the same location as the troop buildup. So, they are staging…very much like we did during the Desert Storm area (Kuwait). So, their intentions are out there for everyone to see.

    Now, here is the problem we, the United States, has. Democratic President Jimmy Carter abrogated the mutual defense treaty with Taiwan. The UN, at China’s insistence, does not recognize Taiwan as an independent state. No other POTUS, Trump included, has tried to re-install the mutual defense treaty.

    So, I put this to you…………….Taiwan is a red headed step child….China wants it back. They are staging to do just that. What would you do, in this instance, and why would you do it.

    Here are the ramifications if we do not intervene……China dominance and TOTAL control of the International Shipping Lanes of the South China Sea. Russia is already on record that they will do nothing because those shipping lanes do not affect them very much. The UN will do nothing because they do not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state. So, what do you do?

    • Question number two. At what point does the threat in the South China Sea become a National Security interest?

    • The very first thing to do is to get this country back to work. Stop all the Covid lock downs, keep the pipeline under construction, make sure we are energy independent.

      The first question I would ask is where do the major allies (Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Korea, India, Singapore, Malaya, Indonesia, Philippines, ?) in the area stand. Taiwan is 23M people. To lose this many to the totalitarians in China would be a disgrace. I would start with a statement of support for Taiwan and a public statement of what we know about Chinese troop deployments so the whole world knows unequivocally what the Chinese are planning. I would move a halve dozen subs to the area with the intent of sinking as much of the Chinese navy as possible if shooting starts. I would also move troops into Korea with amphibious support away from the DMZ but on the western coast. The threat would be that these could be used to counterattack in Taiwan or invade N. Korea. I would then make it public that we will not tolerate military action against Taiwan. I would advise US citizens in China to leave.

      Now the real concern is that this could touch off WW3. The Chinese will attack us using non-conventional means. The will employ internet disruption of our businesses, grid, etc. The also might explode an EMP. We need to be able to respond in kind. An EMP will cripple this country. If we thought TP was a problem last spring, wait until the stores are totally empty.

      One good thing is that any debt we owe to China is instantly erased.

    • When would be the best time, weather wise, in the region for an invasion?

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      First, we are quite capable of continuing to batter the elections, theft, flaws and ultimate results and should. If we concede our right to do so then the left will continue with their abject lies about how there NEVER HAS BEEN any fraud ever. Keep it FRONT and CENTER for two years and it will have results. drop it and people will forget and be lulled by the left’s drumbeat (they are great at doing that).

      Taiwan is toast. BUT, do they have a nuke? Has anyone ever asked the question? Does anyone know?

      Before the fall of the Shah and that of South Africa there was talk about the tech sharing going on between those places and the Israelis since all were pariahs. I wonder if there has been some sharing going on behind the scenes from two countries who are basically both in constant mortal danger.
      .

      • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

        One for you sir. How much of a fight will Taiwan put up? I’m thinking back to Churchill’s speech “we shall fight them on the beaches etc.”

    • I lived in Taiwan for a few months, and it is one of my favorite places on earth. The people are so nice and helpful. They love Americans too. I would hate to see them become China. I have no desire to start a war with China, but I would hope that we would make it clear that we are on Taiwan’s side and do whatever it takes to deter China from invading them. What do other Asian countries think about it? What would their response be if China invaded Taiwan?

  47. https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2021/01/26/ted-cruz-leads-republican-in-reintroducing-term-limits-for-senators-n316667

    I guess it’s time for the republicans to pretend they support term limits because they know most Americans want them, and now they can force the democrats to be the ones to shoot it down. If only they could get the news media to cover it.

  48. Susan Rice speech of “equity”…..is a rehash of the old affirmative action programs of the 60s and 70s…..sigh. Equity is reverse discrimination. Nothing more, nothing less.

  49. Something that has happened through a Presidential memo….which is different than the executive order, eliminates the cost benefit analysis from the OMB…..I know that no one cares much about this but it will cause a major upheaval in budgeting.

  50. 103 years ago

  51. “You can’t do it by executive order, unless you’re a dictator,” Biden declared, adding “We’re a democracy, we need consensus.”

    https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/79113/flashback-biden-said-you-cant-legislate-by-executive-orders-unless-youre-a.html

    It’s official, we have a dictator.

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Self proclaimed!

      Hey, once he is run out of office over senility, can we sue to have all his “orders” overturned since he was not “in his right mind”. Works in civil law!

  52. Because of the snow in the Midwest, schools are more closed today.

  53. There is a tv movie series…called Man in the High Castle……..if you have not seen it, and if you have the stomach for it, watch it from season 1, episode 1. It is a good view of what we are about to become.

  54. WASHINGTON, D.C.—Trump has been reinstated as president so Democrats in Congress can be sure the impeachment trial will be constitutional.

    Trump will resume serving as president effective immediately so that Democrats can vote on the article of impeachment filed against him.

    “We must make Trump president again so we can constitutionally impeach him again,” said Chuck Schumer. “It’s the only way to be sure. Normally, we don’t care about the Constitution, of course, but when you’re talking about impeaching Trump, we have to make sure we get it just right.”

    Democrats everywhere approved of the move, saying they have had nothing to live for since Trump left office last week.

    “I had all these protest signs and nothing to protest,” said Portland-area BLM activist Jacob Brier excitedly as he got on his gas mask. “We tried firebombing the local DNC headquarters, but it just wasn’t the same. Sure, we could protest Biden starting new wars, but it’s more fun to protest war under a Republican president. Feels more righteous-y.”

    • Stephen K. Trynosky says:

      Looks like wall street wants to change the rules. ONLY hedge fund managers are allowed to manipulate stocks to make money.

      • In the end, they probably will be. Let’s hope not. This particular wrench was fun to watch, hope it’s use remains.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Sorry V, I didn’t read any posts before I put up the one from Red State. Seems we were on the same wave length.

  55. Just A Citizen says:

    Oh this is so funny. I hope Mathius was in on the up side.

    Warning: Many fallaceous arguments/comments by the two reporters from The Hill. But the general story is great.

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/01/27/317592-n317592

    And YES, you have to click on the video embedded in the story.

  56. VH….short selling is legal but evil…..short selling is stock manipulation. They have been caught at their own game using algorithms. But what is now happening, is the wall street ears are suspending trading, which is wrong and they are trying to silence Reddit. It is an uprising and fun to watch.

    • It is more than fun, while it lasts, to see a little bit of justice in the world. How they have the nerve to b*t *h is just amazing. I also happen to like Game Stop and brick and mortar stores.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Short selling is NOT STOCK MANIPULATION.

      It is selling shares you do not have but which you must prove you have capital to purchase. If the stock goes up you have to either get out of the trade or put up more money.

      I have yet to see any proof that shorting stocks actually causes stock prices to drop. If it did then EVERYONE short selling would make money.

      Also remember, if I sell short SOMEONE HAD TO BUY that stock.

      • Sorry JAC…..but it is. It is done all the time to manipulate stock prices. Ever since Lagos have been used…..but…..it is not for the novice.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          Colonel

          Sorry but NO. You are mixing up the method with the motivation.

          Selling short cannot manipulate the stock. The value of any stock is primarily determined by the institutional market. And when someone is selling short the market knows that. Just as they know when there are stop loss orders placed and not executed. So they sit there and pick off the stocks at the stop price at the end of the trading day. Only to resell the next day when prices are higher.

          The manipulation comes when those who short then use their friends and others to “hype” the devaluation in the media. Increasing the probability of them winning on the bet.

          I will also add that short selling or any other form of downside investing wouldn’t have any power at all if not for the fact that any professional investor knows that almost all valuations are inflated with hot air.

  57. Answer down here, everytime I push Reply it takes me to the cartoon meme on Biden, for some reason. Don’t worry about it JAC. I’ve done it numerous times. I also read and enjoyed both posts. 😀

  58. We went from, “You have to pass it to find out what’s in it” to, “What am I signing”.

  59. How funny……now the WH is saying they will have to look into Wall Street……may have to get involved.

  60. Arresting people for memes now……..wow.

  61. Look Ya’ll, SKT, T-Ray, JAC and the Colonel in their previous life.

  62. Not sure I have this exactly correct but its pretty close .I’ve been following a pro Trump page that used to be part of Reddit. You may have heard about it, it WAS called T_Donald, but I forgot now what the last part of it was. They were actually kicked off Redditt and formed their own platform called win. They have since grown and have many communities under the win platform, But the new T_D.win was by far the most successful. Earlier this month there was dissention in the moderation ranks, and a senior mod sort of ran with T_D name and all posts and comments. Luckily the other mods saw this coming and were able to secure a backup to the site. They have rebranded to Patriots.win.

    What I think is really cool is that the .win community , who was originally at war with the Redditt community over censorship issues, is fully expecting Redditt to kick WallStreetBets, the guys fueling all this GameStop fun, to the curb. .win is offering WallStreetBets to join them on the .win platform.

    So while Redditt, the real Wall Street thugs, and probably the Biden administration is going to try to silence WSB, . the .win community already has them covered.. Sounds like winning to me.

    Related… my kids, nephews and all their gangs have been using apps on their phones to play around with stocks. Its all the rage with that age group right now. I don’t know anyone who has lost any money yet. No one I know is seriously invested, couple hundred bucks at the most but they all have made their crumbs at it. I bet lots of money from that age group has made its way to the GameStop stock.

  63. I wonder how this is effecting Mathius?

    • Just A Citizen says:

      I will give it a shot. But first lets address the faulty thinking which in included in the introduction. I think this is placed here to DIRECT the readers thinking in a particular direction. Once you swallow the anarchist/class warfare arguments everything starts coming out the same.

      “Make no mistake, the government’s reaction to COVID-19 — shutting down business, forcing people to state home, all the while granting monopolies to massive chains like Amazon, Walmart, etc. — has decimated the middle class and pushed the already-struggling poor that much deeper into despair. But you won’t see the owners of those monopolies complaining as they have seen their wealth soar to unprecedented highs.”

      $ This implies that the Govt. has “granted” monopoly status to various companies. This is NOT TRUE. While an argument can be made about how patents and copyrights have contributed to outfits like Amazon becoming monopolistic in their behavior, Walmart doesn’t even come close. But funny how he included a chain store in the claim.

      $ He also implies that this monopoly power has decimated the middle class. I say BS to that claim. In fact the data is clear. Companies like Walmart and the shopping side of Amazon actually helped increase the “standard of living” for the middle class the past ten to twenty years. Because they reduced the Cost of Living while wages were stagnant.

      $ It is true that people who make money usually do not complain about it. What a revelation.

      “As the rest of the country struggles to pay their mortgages, has their businesses shut down, and descends into poverty, COVID-19 for the super rich has been a record-setting windfall. Four of the most controversial billionaires on the planet, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Larry Page have seen their wealth increase by hundreds of billions in just the last 10 months.”

      $ My first complaint is the use of terms like “the super rich”. Not all people, rich, super rich or poor are the same. NAME them. Who are you talking about. Because not everyone of the “super rich” got richer “because of Covid”.

      $ Now for those actually named, yes they have gotten richer. Why???? Because they were able to provide a service to people in a time of crisis caused by Covid, and over exuberant politicians. This just reeks of envy and petty jealousy. There is also the insidious implication that this was done on purpose just to enrich these people.

      I will now finish this and try to respond to the heart of it.

    • Just A Citizen says:

      Gman, my comments on the general hypothesis.

      First, the big investors don’t give two whits about small investors. This idea that the game is about the Bigs vs. Smalls is BS for the most part. Those who “actually” try to manipulate markets do so to influence the other “institutional investors”. They hold most of the money or value in equites.

      Second, regulations have been put in place because of the very abuses in the markets this author now claims are caused by those very regulations. We had a “free market” in the stock market long ago. It resulted in all kinds of fraud and abuse via manipulations.

      As for the mechanics of this Selling Short is You selling a stock in the market which you do not own. How can you do this? The firm with which you trade requires that you put up a certain amount of actual money to cover a portion of that sale. So that they don’t get caught holding the bad should your investment go bad. Remember, these firms actually do the trade, not you. They do in on your behalf. It is basically a Trust arrangement if you will.

      Now should the stock drop in price you can buy it on the market at the lower price, which closes out your short sale on the Firms/Exchange books. While the actual shares are not the same ones you have sold X stock and then purchased X stock. You have no outstanding transactions. You sell at $20 and you buy back at $10. You made $10.

      Now if the stock goes up the Firm will ask for more MONEY to be placed in deposit to cover the paper loss. This is the margin call you may hear about. You sold at $20 but now it is at $40. Your paper loss is $20 so the Firm is going to want all of that $20 covered. The net effect is that most people simply close out the short sale by buying at the higher price at that moment. Take the loss and hopefully minimize it now. Because if you let it ride the losses could get HUGE or you lose TIME. And TIME is money. For example, it took two years for the cycle to return to your original “selling price”. You just lost two years of potential profits by tying up all that money for nothing. Rule of the market is minimize losses by swallowing them and moving on.

      As I am arguing with the Colonel, the actual “manipulation” is primarily linked to how these big players are hooked into the media. They do not have an actual monopoly with the media. But the media, being the hard working folks they are (sarcasm intentional) are going to call on those they think are the biggest name or mover in any given week. Remember back to when the business media got ripped a new one over the dot com bubble and then the housing bubble. It seems they have not learned all that much. Another way to look at this is like one of those shows that focuses on Hollywood stars and their lives. Business news channels and outlets are always looking for new “stars” in the investment world. The big boys are able to project that “star” quality and thus get invited to speak in public.

      Now for one point where the author nails it. When the very big players get hurt, they do seem to be able to get the Govt to step in and reduce the pain. This is CRONY CAPITALISM at its WORST. The very thing that caused the Tea Party to rise up. Which was then put down by those on the left who now are whining about Wall Street’s cozy relationship with the Govt. Oh the irony.

      My final comment. These Reddit folks are JUST AS GUILTY of market manipulation as the Big Boys they seem to be trying to harm. And for not other reason than these hedge funds dared talk down stocks in companies they liked. Or maybe this was even more nefarious. Just some anarchist types trying to destroy hedge funds to make a point. Or maybe to disrupt and destroy the market system itself.

      It seems like justice to us because we are conditioned to suspect and even hate the very rich. Especially those on Wall Street. But make no mistake. This was market manipulation. It was a “conspiracy” as well. I see no difference in the Reddit behavior and that of Investment Houses conspiring to drive up or down any particular stock.

      I want to now address a fallacy presented in the video I posted last night. The idea that hedge funds cause companies to go bankrupt. You cannot bankrupt a company by driving down its stock price. Not unless that company is in bad financial condition to start with. The lower stock price could negatively affect their ability to raise more capital via stock sales. But you cannot kill a healthy company by shorting its stock.

      • Got Ya. Interesting how the Reddit crowd did this. But I wonder, was it for the money or to make a negative point about Capitalism or both? I wonder how DC will react, because the cat is out of the bag and this will keep happening (I think has been happening within the Wall St. crowd for a long time)?

        • Just A Citizen says:

          gman

          Exactly! What was the real purpose.

          Right now I am putting this whole thing in that famous category called:

          “Be careful what you ask for”.

          • Correct…Casino stocks have been around a long time and manipulated by hedge funds for the most part. They “manipulate” constantly. In my training, and even today when I talk to advisors, they hate hedge funds. I do not participate in hedge funds. I do not trust them for the very reason of manipulation and their reputations. Others love them, I do not. But what is happening now, is the organized little guy (to coin a phrase) has learned how to day trade. What is pissing the hedge fund guys off is that the short sell squeeze is forcing them to sell stable stocks to make their margin calls. They do not like that so they pull the strings to shut down Robin Hood, et al…..and stop trading. This is not right, in my opinion……however, algorithms are the pariah I say they are…the new guys, like Mathius, love them because they are slaves to technology. I still like the idea of a human approach to things that think rather than react.

            I am in the markets on a large scale…well, large by MY definition….I am not a mega trader and I do not do much in the growth stocks unless there is a dividend….at my age, I do not have the time to wait for 20 or 30 year growth stocks or bonds. I am on the down side..maybe 25 years left.

      • As a result of their shenanigans, a class action lawsuit has been filed against Robinhood in the Southern District of New York, claiming that Robinhood delisted GameStop from its app and stopped the buying of shares in it and other memestocks “in order to slow the growth of GME… [and was] done purposefully and knowingly to manipulate the market for the benefit of people and financial institutions who were not [their] customers.”

        https://nationalfile.com/breaking-class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-robinhood-as-bipartisan-support-grows-for-congressional-investigation/

    • Just A Citizen says:

      I will give you one guess who is going to make a fortune shorting this stock pretty soon.

      • Note that I said, this is fun While it lasts. I’m not under any illusions that there is any justice in this Country anymore. The democrats with help from some republicans have made that clear.

        • Just A Citizen says:

          V.H.

          I really, really, really, wish I could put your mind at ease. I just can’t with a good conscience.

  64. Just A Citizen says:

    OK, I left for a few days to get some carpentry work done. I return only to find out that ya’ll went and BROKE Mathius once again.

    After reviewing the thread I do think he may have overreacted a “little”. But he had VALID complaints with regard to subjective things like “patriotism”. I mean what does that really mean anyway?

    And of course the tendency to dismiss anything strictly due to the “youth” of the person commenting. While there is a connection between age and experience, this is often used in as a “logical fallacy”. We all should keep guard against the latter.

    I do admit that I have also gotten lazy at times and fallen back on these oversimplified responses, as well as others.

    As I have said many times, thinking is hard work. Lately I have been hard at work with other things and feel I have become a little lazy in the “thinking” department. That and the emotion of this last election and the absolutely IDIOTIC reaction by the Washington D.C. ELITE has had me off my game a bit. For that I apologize to everyone.

    Here in the free nation of North Idaho we have had the LOWEST snow fall on record for the month of January.

    • No, JAC, he had no valid complaint and HIS patriotism WAS NOT questioned. Not by me. If he chose to run to the hills, that is another problem HE has……I suggest you re-read my statement…..I was speaking very clearly of attitude. And that attitude does not exist today and I can cite many examples including the one he wrote…about spending a decade and not changing minds.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        Colonel

        I agree with you with regard to what you wrote. I saw no great offense and none aimed at him in particular. That is why I said he over reacted a little. I think he took your comment personally even though everyone here would have been included. If you think back you will recall that “patriotism” has been one of his “hot buttons” from the start. I think it goes back to the Bush II Admin playing the “patriot” card to squelch opposition to invading Iraq. That is a very raw spot with him, even to this day.

        However, when you say the true patriots are gone are you not saying that those of us here now are “not” true patriots?? And are the “attitudes” you described really measures of “patriotism”? As I said above. The concept has a large measure of “subjectivity” to it that makes it hard to pin down and easy to use for or against someone.

        Just like the “He is no true Scotsman” fallacy.

        Note: This is one reason I have often qualified the term with “Patriot of Liberty” rather than the Nation or State or Govt or even the Constitution. The original “American” patriots were loyal to “Liberty” because they had no “Country” at the time. Hell they were revolting against their country.

  65. Wow, under reporting nursing home deaths in New York by 50%.

  66. Just A Citizen says:

    More on this game stop trading fiasco. Following is a headline for story on Red State:

    “Dave Portnoy Goes Nuclear On Robinhood After the App Shuts Down Trading to Protect the Elite”

    Note the intentional propaganda? You are told that Robinhood did what they did “TO PROTECT” the elite. This is the classic move of taking an outcome and assigning a narrative to it in order to inflame or influence others.

    Just like saying that the Covid shutdowns were done to “deliberately harm the economy in order to get rid of Mr. Trump.”

    If I were Robinhood I would have shut down the trading as well. Why? Because I do not want the SEC and or DOJ breathing down my neck to facilitating a deliberate manipulation of the market.

    To the accusation, does Robinhood let the giant hedge funds use their platform? Do they even use the platform? Lets say they do. The only thing that would make this complaint legit is if you could show that a “client” was doing things to manipulate the market and using the platform to make it happen.

    This is the Not So Brave New World and there seems to be walls crumbling all around. Maybe the real story is not what is being PUSHED on the internet and media at this moment. Then again, maybe it is. Or maybe it is a combination of truth and fiction. Meanwhile it is funny watching all the barking seals get into the game around the internet and MSM.

    • I mentioned the GameStop story this morning to my teenager, and she knew all about it. Young people are following this story. I think if the democrats are seen to move against the Redditers in favor of the hedge funds they will loose serious ground with young people. It will be interesting to see where this all goes.

  67. Just A Citizen says:

    We thought Mr. Trump exposed how corrupt Govt and the Media were. We had no idea just how bad it was until he left office. His departure has shown that corruption to be far worse than even I could have imagined.

    We have lost our moral compass. And the sky is to cloudy to steer by the stars.

  68. Just A Citizen says:

    Nothing as efficient and effective as centralized State (Govt.) control. Maybe there would be more vaccinations if folks were left to seek out and give them without being second guessed.

    Our experience here has been that more people got the shots before the “Govt” started publishing and trying to control who got them and when. The vaccine was delivered, word got out and the facility operated on a first come first serve basis. Enforcement of the “guidelines” was, well lets say lax.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/us/georgia-vaccine-center-suspended-school-district-staff/index.html

  69. Just A Citizen says:

    Read CAREFULLY. Did Tesla make an actual PROFIT from their business or not?

    https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-67705113fb4f895bd051a1bee1d23518

    • I would like to see the “real” balance sheet.

      • Just A Citizen says:

        I would love to see the terms of those “loans” he received from Uncle Sam. And since I didn’t think Congress approved the Carbon Credit selling scheme how did Tesla get Carbon Credits to sell to the other auto companies?

        I am also wondering what Mathius’ opinion is on Tesla’s relationship with Govt funding/subsidies etc..

  70. Stephen K. Trynosky says:

    The stupid electric car thing will not really fly until they figure out a way to “broadcast” power.

  71. Just A Citizen says:

    Best line of the day:

    “The most telling argument against a new party is that we have perfectly serviceable one that nobody’s using at the moment — the GOP.”

  72. However, when you say the true patriots are gone are you not saying that those of us here now are “not” true patriots?? And are the “attitudes” you described really measures of “patriotism”? As I said above. The concept has a large measure of “subjectivity” to it that makes it hard to pin down and easy to use for or against someone.

    I will explain MY reasoning a little further and understand, it is my reasoning and no one else’s. If anyone gets their panties in a wad then do the Democrat thing and censor me.

    I specifically used the example of of the Normandy invasion. I also used the specific term of attitude. The same attitude that made our men storm beaches facing impossible odds. The same attitude that allowed us to fight a war in two separate hemisphere’s of the world. The same attitude where the women of that time dropped what they were doing and joined in the fray and did things that men were doing so the men could go fight. I used the specific term of Rosie the Riveter. The same attitude where gasoline was rationed and no one complained. The same attitude where all the silk was dedicated to parachutes and not top women’s fashions and no one complained. The same attitude that created food shortages so the front line had ample food and no one complained. The same attitude where home heating and air conditioning was rationed and no one complained. The list goes on. It was an attitude back then.

    This attitude does not exist today among most. Allow me to state some examples. When the first thing people do when a crime is committed right in front of them, is whip out a cell phone and take pictures. They stand around and laugh and no one helps. They post it on the social medias and no one cares. This is an attitude and this does not portray Patriotism, in my way of thinking.

    When people loot and burn and laugh about it and no one does anything about it and adopt the attitude that “they have insurance and are not hurt” is not Patriotism, in my way of thinking.

    When people hijack a rally and turn it into insurrection, this is not freedom fighters nor Patriotism…it is lawlessness.

    When I asked a question of BF long ago and, again, a couple months ago….if you were walking with your family and saw a rape or a beating taking place, what would you do and the answer I get is nothing, I would think of MY family first….I would not rush in or intervene…….this, in my opinion, is not Patriotism. It is an attitude that I think sucks. The attitudes of our fathers….are no longer. And I believe that.
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    It is the attitude that I am speaking of….nothing more.

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