I do not have the time today to write an article so ya’ll will have to settle for a clean page upon which to pontificate!
As Requested; A new page for comments.
December 8, 2022 by
Waking America Up One 3:00am Phone Call at a Time
Waking America Up One 3:00am Phone Call at a Time
I do not have the time today to write an article so ya’ll will have to settle for a clean page upon which to pontificate!
Black Flag®
commonman55
d13thecolonel
gman
Just A Citizen
Life of Illusion
Jon Smith
USWeapon
Stand Up For America 
Because it is all about the children. Bless his little heart!
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/12/08/project-veritas-exposes-school-dean-handing-out-sex-toys-to-children-schools-response-makes-it-worse-n670642
And for those who wish to attack the messenger, remember that is a classic Logical Fallacy.
I can ask for a more reputable source, though, right?
It’s not a logical fallacy to call Veritas and whats-his-name steaming piles of biased horse shit while still keeping an open mind as to the underlying accusation, right?
I can point out that what’s-his-name has a history of deceptively editing and manipulating videos, and consequently, should be presumed to be operating in bad faith, right?
I can point out that nut-picking is a common tactic of rags like RedState, Breitbart, InfoWars, and Veritas, right?
I can argue that one idiot does not represent the whole of the “woke left,” right?
I can point out that, as stupid, off-base, and inappropriate as this [claimed] behavior is, IT’S STILL NOT FUCKING GROOMING god-fucking-dammit. Right?
Are you sure you are not the one who is biased? Many of the videos released by the MSM have been selectively edited almost always to deliver a liberal talking point. Some of their editing has led to violence and death but I do not hear you calling them out. Veritas has frequently released all the video around a target and has successfully defended many law suits.
And it is just your opinion that this is not grooming. Others including me, disagree. This is not education, it is indoctrination, and is not OK.
“have been selectively edited almost always to deliver a liberal talking point.”
Like the ones Giuliani tried to pass off in Georgia. 🙂 Paranoid much, JAC?
Again, read before you pop off. Put on your glasses first, it might help.
Mathius
Re: Veritas! Correct. It is using the attack on the messenger to discount the message that is the fallacy.
Re; Veritas editing. NO! One act does not cause all acts to be presumed bad. Trust but Verify, right? Also, the supposed edits you keep referring to did not change the factual nature of those tapes. At least nothing I saw did. They edited stuff as many MSM would but their enemies screamed EDITING. But again, my mantra is trust but verify. If trust is violated then it becomes verify, and verify again.
Re; Nutpicking. Sure, you can say that. But it is not always the case. How often do you presume nut picking and then find out later it was a broader thing than you thought? Like the sexualization of grade school kids under the name of “empathy”.
Re; Idiots. Yes you can point that out. Until more and more idiots are found. But since I see you among many others categorizing Trump voters/supporters based on the behavior of a few idiots, it begs the question. When is a few become many and when does idiocy become “mainstreamed”?
Re; grooming. No need to lose control of your tongue, or fingers. Technically this may not be grooming, but only due to age. If this were younger children it WOULD QUALIFY. Now when are YOU going to recognize that “grooming” has many facets and tactics. Things may not look like it today but it is a PROCESS, wherein steps are added to other steps, all leading to victimhood.
It is my opinion that much of what we have seen revealed in the classrooms does in fact fit into the category of “grooming.” But here is the odd thing. In the name of PC or Social Justice or whatever, you have people who are not necessarily inclined to pedophilia teaching/exposing children to things that are part of the “grooming process.”
I posted a link here a month or so back where someone who is an expert on the topic pointed out how many of these “lessons” and the approach of “hiding stuff from parents” are all part of the grooming tactics/process. It seems to me you just blew that off and still fail to recognize the overlap here.
Which is why none of this stuff should be going on in class rooms without the parents knowledge and consent. Just as you said earlier today.
Mathius
You constantly berate Red State and other sites, as well as Fox News, including the moniker RAG.
So please tell me. Who/what is a source that is NOT A RAG.
SUFA
Sucking up is greatly appreciated. If only I could get free cookies as well.
Odd… every time I come to SUFA, it asks me if I’ll accept cookies.. and I always say yes, but it never actually sends me any cookies…
Send me your address and I will see to it you get some “free cookies”!
🙂
Me too….send me your address and I’ll see to it you get some Jalapeno home made chocolate chip cookies. I’ll pay the freight…..ball in your court.
I’ll get it to you through JAC.. but I don’t want cookies from you – I want steak.
And Scotch.
I am not mailing you steak. It will not survive the trip. If you want steak you will have to come visit. Best in the summer so we can sip adult beverages while watching the BBQ.
Now Scotch is another thing. Probably illegal as hell but I am thinking I can sneak that one to ya. Unless you want to wait until you visit.
I don’t want YOUR steak. I want the COLONEL’S steaks.*
I would gladly accept any and all Scotch you wanted to send my way, as well as cookies.
*note the plural.
I will send you a steak packed in dry ice….but you have to promise, that if I send you a ranch bred steak, you must cook it correctly…..and absolutely…NO STEAK SAUCE.
Steak Sauce is like putting an elevator in an outhouse….don’t fit.
I don’t use steak sauce, and would GLEEFULLY accept your offer.
The wife is a mean cook… the lady knows what to do with a good cut of steak.
Pretty sure it’s just salt, butter, a cast iron, and a sprig of thyme… but it might just be black magic.. hard to say.
Sometimes, though, she’ll make a teriyaki marinade… oh man… the things that woman can do to a salmon, though…
I will enclose an excellent marinade recipe…24 hours in this marinade overnight in the fridge……
For a more serious answer, I really like: https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news as a ‘jumping off’ point.
But I don’t hate ABC, PBS, Reuters, AP, and BBC
WaPo is ok for some stuff, but you have to keep an eye on it.
WSJ is rock solid for financial stuff, but skewed heavily on anything editorial.
NYT is the same as WSJ, but left.
Politico is… iffy… but there’s some value here.. it’s better for horserace kind of stuff.. who is leading, what the polls say, strategy, etc. Same with 538.
Slate is a left-leaning rag 99% of the time.. but just occasionally does a real solid in-depth, well-sourced piece.
HuffPo isn’t worth wiping your ass with, but can be entertaining from time to time. (note: I’m banned here)
John Oliver is – obviously – hard left, but he researches the hell out of his show. Same with Jon Stewart. You’ve got to keep an eye on the snark and some iffy conclusions, but the factual basis is usually trustworthy.
Brian Typer Cohon is a hack. The left’s answer to Ben Shapiro.
Colbert can be solid, but he’s a comedian and should be viewed as such. When he breaks character, though, he’s whip-smart and well worth listening to.
Cody / Some More News is biased hard left. He’s well researched, but you have to watch him carefully.. he loves his close-cropped and out-of-context quotes and will string together conclusions that aren’t always supported by facts in evidence. But, by god, is he fun to watch. He’s best used as a springboard for [thing worth researching further] and entertainment value. Plus, and I cannot emphasize this enough, he and I have exactly the same speech patterns – it’s weird.
But, in all honestly, I do love my SUFA because it sends me down rabbit holes I’d never have even looked at otherwise, even if – and I mean this with love – you are all bat-shit insane.
Beyond this, I read a lot of science and tech stuff, but that’s not really biased in the same way as news-news, you know? My YouTube algo has me pegged with a constant diet of trivia, technology, astronomy, science, and pure-math. There is the occasional bias here, but it’s really just science communicators communicating science most of the time.
Mathius
In general I think that a fair assessment. I don’t give as much stock to the likes of Stewart or Colbert as you but I have no doubt they are smart. Stupid people can’t twist things in such subtle manners. I think we excuse propaganda a as comedy much of the time. But it is supposed to be a free country.
My biggest pet peeve with the MSM is how all their anchors and many reporters now inject emotional inflections in their reporting. Inflections intended to give a particular point of view. When you report that no evidence was found against X (Trump), and do it with eyes raises and a sarcastic tone, the message is changed. PBS was notorious for this in the past. The majors now play the same game. Oh, and their reporting is shallow as the puddle of melted snow on my shop floor.
I read many of the sources you listed. While you trash Red State I have found that some of their writers have nailed stories ignored by the MSM long before they were forced to finally cover them. Like the Biden laptop and Covid.
But they also have their “opinion” injected in most of their stuff.
So the moral of the story is to read broadly and take everything with a grain of salt. Then go to as many sources as you can tolerate in hopes of VERIFYING the information.
My YouTube recommends consist of science, history Nordic/Celtic Music and Sustainable Farming. Oh, and Russel Brand.
What happened to Mad Magazine…that is my source.
For some reason, I read this as Bertrand Russel …
And then….there is the Colonel.
Trying again since I f’d up the formatting..
You constantly berate Red State and other sites, as well as Fox News, including the moniker RAG.
So please tell me. Who/what is a source that is NOT A RAG.
Don’t know how many of you have been following this story by the Babylon Bee. It has been pretty CORNY and FUNNY. Here is the wrap up of the story.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/12/07/watch-hilarious-babylon-bee-take-as-californians-return-to-ca-but-discover-who-they-truly-are-n670097
Using my best “Church Lady” voice………”well, isn’t that special.”
Edgar Valdez-Villareal, a 49-year-old who goes by the criminal moniker “La Barbie,” is listed as “not in BOP custody” on the Bureau of Prisons website. The BOP says it released Valdez-Villareal on Nov. 27, although the bureau frequently lists inmates as “released” when they have been transferred to the custody of another group.”It’s very strange what is going on in the United States with Mr. Villareal, who is no longer registered among those in custody, and we want to know where he is,” Obrador told reporters. “There is no reason for him to leave prison, because he was condemned to many years, unless there was some kind of an agreement.”
Hey Anita….you are getting good at this…..now a question…how do you have the time to peruse things like this to post. I would love to do it….just do not have the time.
I may come to regret this… but just go to images.google.com and search for whatever you want.
Mathius. Please. Us old folks need Post Pics for Dummies instructions. 🙂
Ok… try this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bXvi9bpK50UYDJu3Dw0cWVGCy60C5SBr/view?usp=sharing
gave me a bunch of bs about video is still processing
Hit download, then watch it.
Its simple if you can find the right image. WordPress only accepts images with certain “formats” I guess you call them. I look for images that have “jpeg” or png” in the url. Would you like to try yourself? Let’s do an image of a grilled ribeye.
1) Type this… grilled ribeye steak jpeg… into the google search bar. Several images will pop up. I chose (in my mind) the first image on the left.
2) Right click that image. STOP AND LOOK at the dropdown menu.
3) Click on open IMAGE in new tab,,,, IMAGE not LINK! Its down a ways
4) A new tab opens with only the grilled steak. Scan the url in the search bar of that tab to see if the letters jpeg or jpg are anywhere in the url. THEY ARE…SO
5) STOP. Make sure you have a SUFA tab open and the steak tab open. 6)Leave the steak tab and go back to SUFA. Click reply to this comment.
7)Return to the steak tab and copy that url. I think this is your struggle. Put your curser in the search bar for the steak, right click that url, and choose copy.
8)STOP
9) Return to SUFA tab. Your reply box is still open. Click your curser into the reply box. Right click and choose paste. A very long url will appear. All you need from that url is -starting from the left- all the letters up to and including jpg. Backspace to erase, or exclude all the other letters in the url.
Post comment and congratulate yourself when the image appears under this comment.
10) Your turn.
Am I doing this right?
Oh hell no. But you need to teach me how to only post the link like you did instead of posting the actual image
Moral of the story is that if you want to be a major player in politics you had better not make up a bunch of stuff. It can come back to bite you later.
Watch the video of Jordan’s questioning.
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2022/12/08/jim-jordan-single-handedly-wrecked-the-democrats-attempt-to-discredit-the-supreme-court-n670809
Is that Jim Jordan, the former Ohio State wrestling coach who helped cover up sexual misconduct allegations against the team doctor? THAT Jim Jordan?
And what does that have to do with his questioning of this supposed witness?
Nothing at all. Just pointing out that he covered up sexual misconduct allegations by minors while he was a coach.
Just a pure, naked ad hominem attack.
Because he’s a shitbag who covered up the fact that the team doctor was sexually abusing students.
… speaking of 𝓖𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰…
Yes, I DID just quote myself.
But while I’m on the topic of 𝓖𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰, I’d also like to remind you that Boebert’s husband exposed himself to minors, that Matt Gaetz admits to “dating” underage high schoolers while in his 30’s, and that Donald Trump is credibly accused (yes, but not convicted) of raping a 14 year old.
I know, I know, you wanted to talk about whatever it is that sexual-abuse-of-minors-covering-up Jim Jordan did with regards to some hearing or another, but it’s a free country, and this is what I feel like writing right now.
Yes, I was simply showing that people who want the spotlight will pay a price if their closets contain skeletons.
This holds true for everyone. Especially if they get in front of someone with cross examination skills. Trey Gowdy was another one with such skills. I am talking about the examination skills, not the political posturing part.
You are in fact free to wander as you wish here. Now in that vane, or is it vain, I am not aware of Boebert’s husband’s issues. Gaetz I have read about and it still seems creepy.
Re; Trump, you have used the phrase “credible accusation” in other matters. How is an accusation “credible” when no case can be prosecuted or guilt established? When is the accusation credible vs. not credible? Do you see how putting “credible” in front of that can give certain people with built in bias a certain opinion about guilt, without digging any deeper?
I think you were looking for “vein.”
You can find the details online. They say that some girls badgered him to see his – apparently – tattooed penis. The girls (underage) say he offered to show it to them, they said no/ew, but he whipped it out anyway. He did some time for it, I believe.
Fair enough.. but I’ll just leave this here….
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4524664/1/doe-v-trump/
She dropped the suit – possibly because it was false, possibly because he paid her off (most likely), possibly because she was receiving death threats and was scared to continue. Maybe all of the above. Who can say the truth? Not I.
But I can say that Trump was a known associate of notable pedophile facilitator, Epstein, and that he has a well-established history of being a vile pervert, including bragging about barging into the dressing rooms of underaged Ms. America contestants… so, yes, I find this “credible.” Just note that “credible” does not mean “accepted as fact.”
Guilty? Juror Mathius would have to see it in court. Citizen Mathius reserves judgment, but certainly does not reject it out of hand or consider it “too unlikely.”
Is “credible accusation” the same as “a little bit pregnant?”
A credible accusation is an accusation which one finds credit.
“Yea… that sounds like it might be true.”
Not “yes, I believe it.” or “yes, we should jail him for it.”
If someone came forward accusing W. Clinton of rape, and they could show that they were in Epstein’s / Clinton’s orbit and had been on the “Lolita Express” when they were underage…. I mean.. you’d probably find it credible, too. I know I would.
Certainly raises an eyebrow.
Juanita Broaddrick , Credible? I noticed she was not mentioned earlier. I daresay more “credible” than other examples.
Too often we see wholesale examples from one side and a rather “edited” shall we say, if mentioned at all, from the other. Take the Kennedy’s for example PLEASE take the Kennedy’s.
Anthony Weiner with the photogenic weiner comes to mind who has rehabbed himself into a new radio show though he is not allowed to come within 300 yards of his kid’s school.
My problem with the word “credible” is everybody gets to design their own definition. JFK -Oswald, credible to some, JFK, Mafia-Cuba-Russia conspiracy credible to others. The proof on credibility I am afraid is in the eye of the beholder until and unless something is proved in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. Even then, OJ anyone? The Rosenbergs?
The one that irks me the most (SUFA will love this) … Tara Read. TOTALLY credible, but the MeToo movement was in the bag against the Orange Man and let Biden off the hook. Of course I wanted him removed from the ticket, but that wasn’t going to happen. Now we have a zombie for President .. but it’s still better than a raging lunatic and evil SOB. 🙂
Oh what a wicked web they have woven. Reminds me of the Gordian Knot story. There is just so much messed up about the law suit, the protections, the DOJ “warning” the court, blah, blah, blah.
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3767300-doj-warns-supreme-court-against-overly-broad-section-230-reading-in-google-case/
If a tech company was true to its purpose of only providing a platform for the public, then should they be liable for anything at all?? If so then why?
The problem starts when they allowed themselves to be pulled into the “censorship” game. Once you censor you become liable for what and when as well as why.
Riddle me this , if the phone company were to have billions of “bots” out there monitoring your phone conversations and shutting them off when you hit a no-no word or phrase, would that be allowed? The internet and big tech, crossing all state and national lines is now and has been for some time ripe for treatment as a public utility. Period.
The Southern Belle is definitely VH.
The words are much different when describing me. 🙂
Ha ha, I’m definitely not a southern belle, though I take the works as a compliment. I do try to be nice and polite, up to a point, which I think defines you as well. I just reach my point sooner than you do.
Jack Smith isn’t playing with his pud. Orange Man in deep shit.
I’m tired of getting my hopes up. Consequences are for other people, not the ruling class.
Even if he were held in contempt, it would almost certainly be a fine (read: slap on the wrist) – and odds are that he wouldn’t even wind up paying it himself or that he’d just grift his base to pay it for him.
This is a BS argument/issue. The DOJ is playing games and the demand that a “Custodian of Record” be appointed is a set up. They know it and apparently the Trump folks can see through it. Whoever gets that job will immediately be threatened by the DOJ and their life destroyed if they do not turn “states witness” against Mr. Trump. In my view, this is just more evidence of how the “deep state” continues to create the narrative and then force feeds it to us. This is why you get your hopes up. You listen to people who lead you to believe actual crimes exist or that such maneuvers are going to cause some action. When they are constructed primarily to influence opinion.
So now the DOJ wants a judge to issue a “contempt” order because Mr. Trump, or any of his employees, will stick their neck in the noose.
Now lets deal with the actual issue. Documents. It is the responsibility of the National Archivist to approve the person who will be in charge. Mr. Trump can propose someone but the Archivist must approve/appoint them. And nothing about that job involves threat of prosecution for “crimes” dealing with disposition of said documents. Unless they are truly stolen by someone not listed as having authorized access per the Presidential Records act.
” This is why you get your hopes up. You listen to people who lead you to believe actual crimes exist or that such maneuvers are going to cause some action. When they are constructed primarily to influence opinion.”
Actual crimes did exist/occurred and should be indicted over. Simple as it gets. A federal law precludes people from removing classified documents. People have been indicted and convicted over the same law. He took them home, he ignored the subpoena, they used a valid search warrant and found more documents … and then his lawyers found even more … what does that amount to: more than one crime in that history. LOCK HIM UP. 🙂
https://i.imgur.com/e4BLIQC.gifv
I don’t remember you being against capitalism.
He doesn’t know, He is a dog….dependent upon someone else to take care of him.
Now, that is funny.
I wonder how you lefties see the releasing of the Twitter accounts…with names and addresses,,,,,and how it appears that the government, specifically the DOJ and the FBI, influenced the censorship of conservative thought and, consequently, influenced and meddled in the elections of 2020 in direct violation the first amendment.
So, let’s see…..
A bunch of ne’er do wells attempt to storm the congress with the intent to influence the election.
A bunch of ne’er do wells attempt, and are more successful than the idiots at congress, to influence the elections.
One bunch uses clubs and things to storm the capitol…the other bunch uses their offices and power to shut up and re-direct thought.
One bunch is not under the influence of government and the other bunch is…..so……tell me……..whom is worse?
Lest Colonel is always “for the greater good” you know that. Right is of course fascist troglodytes.
I’m not so sure I want to classify this as left or right….it IS an abuse of power far worse, in my opinion, than a bunch of idiots storming congress. It is control of our government that was used to stifle and censor free speech. It certainly appears that way…and what is more forthcoming…..I do not see anyone denying it.
Col., I agree with you. The rot that is happening in our government is insidious and will take years to clean out. Unfortunately I currently do not see a path forward. The House could impeach multiple cabinet members on legit grounds but the Senate will not convict unless the evidence is absolutely overwhelming. So what is the point? The best path forward that I see is cutting the budgets to the various departments. The pig will squeal but so what.
Yes, the power of the purse is absolute……but who will wield it.
CORRECTION, LEFT not lest.
Now that Musk, has apparently jumped ship with the log books, he is suddenly a pariah if he releases Twitter files and emails and such……he is releasing private information, they scream. I wonder where this will go? While the Dems still have the house, perhaps they will pass a “shut up” bill?
Well, at the very least, he is releasing information with names and addresses and not the left’s mantra of “informed sources”…”anonymous sources”, “whistle blowers”…….Musk is naming names.
New Topic for Conversation….
I’d argue that, for the entire politically-aware lives of Gen X and M, and the entire lives of Z:
1. Red Team has been a pure opposition party, even when they have power, doing nothing but gainsaying everything that Blue Team wants to do that might possibly be beneficial to the younger generations.
2. Red Team has spent every day for decades fighting culture wars in favor of the Boomers and against the Youth.
3. Red Team has spent every day since Reagan deregulating and lowering taxes on the rich while fighting to kill off social supports favored by the young.
4. Gen Z wasn’t even in grade school when Red Team weaponized 9/11 to march the country into two pointless wars, pass the Patriot Act, and lean into full-blown Islamophobia.
5. Z might be a bit too young, but M and X will remember the decades-long battles just to let gay people marry. And all are witnessing the current trans-rights battles.
6. Republicans have waged war against renewables and the scientific consensus on Climate Change – all the while, the younger generations have worried about the world they themselves would inherit.
7. And now, fair or not, Red Team is increasingly seen as leaning into fascism and antisemitism.
8. And then, you know, there’s Trump. ‘Nuff said there.
I would argue that, for generations X, M, and Z, – younger, poorer, better educated, more indebted, more urbane, more multicultural, LGBT+ friendly, and concerned about Climate Change – they’ve never known a Republican party they didn’t view as openly, nakedly, overtly hostile to their interests both social and economic.
I mean that in the general sense.. of course, there are members of those generations who agree with the platform(s) or vote Red Team for their own reasons. But, in broad demographic terms….
That’s not to say Red Team is evil and doesn’t have points in its favor or some better policies that are right or that Blue Team isn’t a colossal trainwreck in its own right. It’s just that Red Team basically bet it all on Boomers for the last 40 years – and Boomers’ interests are different than the younger generations. It’s paid off phenomenally well from an electoral standpoint, but as Boomers are getting older, they’ve had to lean ever harder into policies and culture wars that favor old over young. By the time they get around to abandoning the declining demographic (probably another cycle or two) and adopting positions more palatable to the ascending generation(s), I think it’ll be far too late to change their established sentiment. I do not think X, M, or Z will easily forgive a party that has been their enemy for the entirety of their formative years.
———————————————–
So, looking at this as more of a horse-race kind of framing than a “we’re right, you’re evil” framing…. Topics for discussion:
1. Do you – broadly – agree with the broad strokes of the above? Not necessarily that these are “true,” but that this is how it’s perceived by the younger generations.
2. What, if anything can/will the Red Team do once you old farts finally get around to dying off?
3. Do you think the younger generations will eventually “come around” or has Red Team fatally lost them?
4. If the Republicans have to abandon all of their positions to appeal to the younger generations, are they still Republicans?
5. Do you believe the old saw that people become more conservative as they get older, so the youth will come to Red Team rather than the other way?
No I do not agree with your premise. It shows very clearly yours and others lack of education on the general purpose of the federal government. It is not there to be the bread basket for the general population. It has specific delineated powers and authorities which it has clearly overstepped.
Your younger generations are the product of a far left culture and education system which has denigrated the right for decades. Look at what is happening in society today. Conservatives have a tough time talking on college campuses. The twitter documents show clearly that the young techies have no regard for free speech specifically that from the right. They are petty tyrants.
T-Ray… you completely missed the assignment.
1. Do you – broadly – agree with the broad strokes of the above? Not necessarily that these are “true,” but that this is how it’s perceived by the younger generations.
Please try again.
PS: I just wanted to flag again, that I touched up one of your photos yesterday… I’d hate for you to miss it.
I saw the photo, thanks.
I did not miss your intent. Our youth have been poorly educated. Per Ben, we are not on a path to keep our republic.
Boy…the last time I answered you on things like this..you got pissed and left. I will chance it again because, quite frankly, I am unapologetic for my views…unless I am wrong…and everyone knows that Colonel’s are never wrong…..perhaps a little short on being correct but never wrong.
1. Red Team has been a pure opposition party, even when they have power, doing nothing but gainsaying everything that Blue Team wants to do that might possibly be beneficial to the younger generations.
I actually have seen no difference in this. It was this bad in the 60’s and 70’s. I think worse in the 60’s than now with the exception of the more aggressive criminal element. So, I object that it is a one sided issue, which you suggest. Times do change and opinions do change but there is a distinct difference in ethics.
2. Red Team has spent every day for decades fighting culture wars in favor of the Boomers and against the Youth.
Yes and so has the blue team. I have not seen any difference in the vitriol between the two sides.
3. Red Team has spent every day since Reagan deregulating and lowering taxes on the rich while fighting to kill off social supports favored by the young.
Deregulation and lower taxes, I am in agreement with doing just that because the past economy show that it has been the best. OBJECTION to the use of the term rich and that all of this is in favor of the rich. Lower and middle class is much better off now than they have ever been since the 50’s. It is an evolution process and it is working. Not everyone can be equal in finances and no one is entitled to anything not earned. ( Yes, it is a work ethic ). I have had the experience of growing up in BOTH economies.
4. Gen Z wasn’t even in grade school when Red Team weaponized 9/11 to march the country into two pointless wars, pass the Patriot Act, and lean into full-blown Islamophobia.
I will agree with you here although the two pointless wars you indicate, especially including the Patriot Act, were historically bi partisan and kept going when Blue team took over on various occasions. The Patriot Act was a knee jerk reaction that never should have passed and this ACT actually gave the red team a great weapon to use in the future…and they have wielded it greatly…..(FBI, DOJ, EPA, IRS) all in the name of security. But, the blue team does not see it. As far as Islamophobia……culture is culture. It is what it is.
5. Z might be a bit too young, but M and X will remember the decades-long battles just to let gay people marry. And all are witnessing the current trans-rights battles.
Yes, you are correct. The only area that I disagree with on their viewpoints. Do not use the law nor violence to fore acceptance of trans-rights or gay rights or whatever…..I despise the “forcing” and the cancel culture and this will exacerbate the problem. That said, I understand their viewpoints but I do NOT….repeat DO NOT have to accept it. I do not. But, what the hell, I am one of those dreaded baby boomers.
6. Republicans have waged war against renewables and the scientific consensus on Climate Change – all the while, the younger generations have worried about the world they themselves would inherit.
They may believe this…..I am sure most do……but follow the money. And all these predictions of the world being in a deep freeze or cities under water and flying purple people eaters…..it has not come true. Nor will it.
7. And now, fair or not, Red Team is increasingly seen as leaning into fascism and antisemitism.
Bull shit.
8. And then, you know, there’s Trump. ‘Nuff said there.
Yes, ’nuff said. Soon to be replaced by Biden
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1. Do you – broadly – agree with the broad strokes of the above? Not necessarily that these are “true,” but that this is how it’s perceived by the younger generations.
Yes, I agree this is how they are being taught.
2. What, if anything can/will the Red Team do once you old farts finally get around to dying off?
This country will likely turn like Europe. Wimpy and intolerant.
3. Do you think the younger generations will eventually “come around” or has Red Team fatally lost them?
Most certainly. They will get tired of debt as it will continue to drag them down as it is now. I can only say that my daughter was very liberal in social things when she was young and in college and full of “the future”. Once she married, had children, a mortgage, two dogs, a cat and worried about making the ends meet….she went from liberal to conservative before god got the news. I think that is an evolution.
4. If the Republicans have to abandon all of their positions to appeal to the younger generations, are they still Republicans?
Since I am not Republican, I can’t answer that question. But, anyone who abandons their position is not who they were. If you abandon your own morals and ethics….then you are different.
5. Do you believe the old saw that people become more conservative as they get older, so the youth will come to Red Team rather than
the other way?
I do not think that conservatism is totally linked to Red Team…so no.
OOOPS….must enter a correction. In my retort to Item 4 in the first set….concerning the Patriot Act……there is a sentence that should read….The Patriot Act was a knee jerk reaction that never should have passed and this ACT actually gave the BLUE team a great weapon to use in the future.
Humble apologies.
Thank you for the errata.
So your response is basically:
1. The Democrats are actually just as bad or worse in every regard.
2. Young people are all manipulated idiots for failing to see how wrong and stupid they are.
3. But they will figure it out when they get older, settle down, and wise up. Then they will become Conservatives.
T-Ray’s response is basically:
Kids are stupid and poorly educated, so I don’t care what they think and can’t be bothered to answer the question being asked.
No sir….your reading of number 2 is incorrect. Number 3 is partially correct.
Regards number 2…..I am not calling anyone idiots or stupid.
Regards number 3….. I do not consider you a conservative but I can tell from your writings that you have a capitalist nature and that you understand what profit and loss is and what it takes to build for the future. You are not bringing your kids up to be generational welfare (Jewish do not do that). You may believe in some social constructs but by and large, you are not a socialist. So, no I do not believe that it instantly turns you into a conservative in ethics. But your practical application is not liberal by definition either.
I think that age will dictate what people do. As I said, it may not change attitude but it does change practical applications.
You can stand there and beat the drum for trans sex and gays and such and that is fine….but you are practicing conservatism in your fiscal matters. If you were not, you would be on the government dole. You would not have investments for the future and you would not have a savings account. I do not know, but I doubt that you are on Obama care…I am betting you have your own medical insurance either through your job or personally. I am willing to bet that you have a managed debt structure in your personal life.
Do I think you are socially different than me? Of course you are….I do not have the social construct that you have. I do not believe in the “something for nothing” that the left seems to believe in…( free stuff ). But you do not do that…and you are not a confessed conservative….you are on the blue team.
And, by the way, where did I not answer your questions?
The question is a pragmatic one. (A) do you agree that is this substantively what is generally believed by The Youth* and (B) given that The Youth have spent their entire formative years viewing Red Team as overtly hostile to their interests, how does Red Team continue into the future once The Olds die off?
Your answer is a long-winded version of “they’re idiots who will figure it out and become Conservatives.” Maybe that is your answer “the GOP doesn’t have to do anything other than wait for the stupid idiots to wise up and realize that I’m smarter and wiser than they are and then they believe what I believe.
Otherwise, your answer should be some version of “the GOP is demographically fucked” or “the GOP will have to realign to the left… and the Youth will/won’t come around because…,” etc.
———
* NOT “is it right,” but “do they believe it.” You can argue with it until you’re blue in the face, but that’s not the question at hand.
Well, ok…but I answered your number one question…….very pointedly, answered it…..let’s review. Cut and paste here,,,,
1. Do you – broadly – agree with the broad strokes of the above? Not necessarily that these are “true,” but that this is how it’s perceived by the younger generations.
Yes, I agree this is how they are being taught.
It seems a pretty definite answer …..yes I agree…..now you might not like the extended answer but I believe I said yes I agree.
But you obviously misconstrue my meaning since I did not give you the answer you wanted. The GOP has been fucked for decades now. They have no courage. I am a baby boomer but I do not even believe in most of the things that they are hanging their hat on…..I thought you knew that but obviously not.
Also, I do not care where the GOP goes…..I am not Republican.
Mathius
I am going to try and keep this simple this morning .
I do NOT agree with your broad strokes. I think those are your views and/or maybe those around you who also think like you. I see much more diversity in these generations regarding how they view things. But as some Young Republicans used to tell me. The R’s need to drop the abortion and gay marriage issues and focus on national defense, fiscal responsibility and the economy.
Short side trip:
The general idea of Boomers vs. the Young did not exist until recently. You might want to check into who started pushing that “thought” on society. So do these generations think the Boomers are waging war against them? I would guess some do and some don’t But here is the reality.
Every young generation sees the older generation running things and thinks they are screwing it up. The Red Team cannot have been siding with the Boomers as old farts because we were the Young folks at one time. In fact I was in my 30’s when Reagan and his age group were running the country. Same age as YOU. Today you would call me an old fart standing in the way of your generation. Guess what? You will get your chance and the younger people will think of you as old and messing things up.
Back to the topic:
All political parties have to change as the culture changes or they will become irrelevant. So the R’s will change and it will still be the R party. But it will not be an R party that looks anything like the R party of the 70’s or 80’s or the one in 2022.
Now to your constant criticism against people discounting younger people due to indoctrination or being foolish. I would say that most of the things in your list are NOT TRUE in reality. There is far more nuance. But if as you say, young people do believe these things then why do they? If they are the most educated generation yet don’t have a grip on the reality of issues affecting them what are we to conclude? Of course as it relates to your questions it really doesn’t matter what the truth is. It is about perception and that will dictate the political winds.
The younger generations, as of today, have and will continue to be exposed to ever increasing “indoctrination”. I use that not in the traditional sense but in the being manipulated by social media, news outlets, mainly the very technology that affects their ever waking moment in life. Algorithms my friend.
Now I ask you this and you can answer on behalf of the alphabet generations. How can it be that Congress or the R party has been kowtowing to the BOOMERS when the BOOMERS have bee split into two camps for most of their existence? The D party is run by BOOMERS as well. Now does the push to move the D’s to the very progressive side represent the New Youth’s war against the old guard “liberals”?
Diversity, yes, but writ large… the Youth do not like the Republican Party. And I think these are the, again, broad strokes of why.
Under-30’s voted in the last election for D+28.
Are they even the same party without those? They’ve been banging the drum on gay marriage and abortion for decades…. it’s a major pillar of the party.
I’m not so sure the first two resonate as much with the Youth.
But your idea of “focus on the economy” and theirs are, I think, WILDLY different.
That’s four counts for “no, it’s the youth who are wrong!”
I like to think I tend to have a better grip on “nuance” than most.
I simplified the positions because it was already a long post.
But, to put as fine a point on it as I can, BROADLY SPEAKING, the Youth believe these things because, BROADLY SPEAKING, they are true.
Substantially, yes.
I think Blue Team saw the writing on the wall well before Red Team and tacked to support positions that would make them popular with non-geriatrics. (In particular social policy positions because they don’t cost the Powers That Be anything and the Party Hacks could continue business as usual.) Red Team doubled-down on culture war positions that were sure to drive elderly turnout (abortion, LGBT, pot, etc).
But, yes. I there is always a conflict between old guard and new guard. I think Boomers have been taking advantage this power for decades much to the detriment of the young. The most blatant example is Climate Change.. assuming you accept it as true, which most Young People do… the Olds have been crapping on the Climate with reckless abandon and resisting painful efforts to address matters…. why? Because they’ll be dead before the bill comes due.
Olds aren’t going to give up the reigns easily. The Youth are going to have to rip them out of their clutched fists. But they WILL do it, even if it requires all the Olds to die off first.
So, if there’s going to be a battle for control, it’s much better to be on the winning side.
Mathius
“That’s four counts for “no, it’s the youth who are wrong!”” NOT TRUE
I was not discounting how the young feel about things. I am simply pointing out that those feelings are NOT justified in many instances. Perhaps I needed the caveat that all people are manipulated to satisfy you. But you raised this issue of AGE WARS Maybe I should have started a new threat to address it. But it lurks behind all your claims.
I find it obnoxious on its face. But you should know me well enough by now to know I despise all kinds of “class warfare”. Unless those sides are drawn around serous cultural standards, like socialism vs. liberty, then they are just a means to an end for the powers to be. A way to divide and conquer.
So let’s address one such concern: “the Olds have been crapping on the Climate with reckless abandon and resisting painful efforts to address matters…. why? Because they’ll be dead before the bill comes due.”
This is absolute crap with respect to reality. If this does exist as a perception it is because someone has created it and pushed it to the point you apparently believe it. Massive solar and windmill farms. That long ago push to put solar panels on every home. Massive efforts to increase energy efficiency of vehicles, homes, office buildings, etc. Ethanol as a replacement fuel. All of these done by the “Olds” while they also cleaned up pollution enough that the rivers in the east stop catching on fire. Cleaning up the air enough that people could once again see the sun in L.A.. All this done by the “Olds” and the “R” party.
So why have the “olds” not gone as far as you may like? As far as the hard core climate alarmists want? Maybe it is because we “olds” have figured out two important things. First, the alarmists of the 60’s were just manipulating us for their own agenda. Which was not the environment but gaining total dictatorial control of power. Second, that going farther and faster would DESTROY the economy. It would make life a living hell for the YOUNGER generation.
Your view of the “olds” smacks of Marxist styled radicalism. You don’t like olds pointing out the uniformed or outright ignorant views of the young. Yet you stereotype the olds about them not giving a hoot because they won’t be around to see the consequences. In case you missed it, we “olds” have children and grandchildren. The political fights we have engaged in today do not affect us. The will affect our children and grandchildren. As much if not more than global warming.
The most blatant example is Climate Change.. assuming you accept it as true, which most Young People do…
Why do they accept it as true? Is it because that is how they are taught?
T Ray…..I just saw a new report on the number of large firms leaving New York, Illinois. Washington, New Jersey……..
But California led the way. I see you are losing 7 more very large firs this year. This report showed how much tax revenue that California has lost over the last 2 years and what the impact will be by year end 2023.
They are throwing numbers around the one hundred billion mark……what the hell y’all gonna do?
CA ran a $90+B surplus this year. Naturally they looked for all kinds of ways to spend this money. The legislature did make most of the expenditures one time events but we all know that the recipients will cry to make that permanent. By law some of the excess must be given back so Newsom opted for a direct payment just before the election. The Rs argued for a gas tax moratorium during the height of the gas price max.
Now they are predicting a $23B shortfall for next year. Newsom has proposed a windfall profit tax on the oil companies. Of course there was a demand for new taxes all year long despite the surplus. Never enough money for the legislature to spend. In the 30 years I have been here, the state budget has tripled and taxes have gone up significantly.
Every state office is controlled by a D and they have controlled the legislature since 1997 and currently hold a 3:1 margin in both houses. There is no effective opposition to their rule.
Yes we are driving business out while being overrun but immigrants. I live in a conservative area but we are seeing more Bay area migrants settle here because housing is cheaper and the quality of life better. Unfortunately, they bring their ideas with them. We are running out of electricity, we have not built a new reservoir in decades despite approving the bonds, our roads are terrible, we are still building the train to nowhere, our forests are overloaded with fuel so burn up (but since the fires are due to climate change it is out of our control), we have abundant natural resources but import wood and aggregate, we have destroyed the timber industry, we legalized MJ but then regulated it to the point that the illegal stuff is cheaper and now more abundant and thus we now subsidize the businesses, we have outlawed small gas engines and IC cars after 2035, …
I will give them credit for starting an R&D project to cover irrigation canals with solar panels. Of course this is 10 years after I suggested it in the newspaper and by writing to the legislature.
My answer:
Ya gotta stand for SOMETHING.
If you don’t then by default you stand for NOTHING. This is the old Guard of the Red Party. They actually stand for NOTHING at all.
They yelp, LOWER TAXES, but cannot explain why. To put it simple because YOU can spend your money better than they can. Just look at the cost of a government rehab of anything vs. a private rehab. I have some experience in that. Still waiting for a small replacement bridge here in my town about 200 feet long. Two and a half years so far. As an old Combat Engineer, I could have thrown a Bailey over it in a fortnight, including ALL the prep and finish work. Just found out that there is a Bailey still in daily use in Northern India, thrown up in ’44 for the Burma Road project. I knew that there were still several in Italy in use today from ’43 and ’44.
So, lower taxes turns out to be a better way to use YOUR money. Conservatives, though drowned out, say that. The GOP does not.
The GOP, learns nothing. Control is still among the “lite” Republicans like McConnell and McCarthy. And “lite” republicans are a lot like “lite” beer, unrewarding and unsatisfying leaving a poor aftertaste and feeling empty.
Was reminded yesterday of the “charges” against poor old George III in the Declaration. Republicans and independents today would do damn well to re-read it especially the part regarding his appointment of his “regulators”.
So, will young people rally around the flag, the Constitution, the Declaration? Alas, I fear not. They are afraid that supporting the flag will offend someone, have been told that the immutable truths in the Constitution are neither immutable nor “fair” and the document outdated and really have never read the Declaration. Fully half could not, with a gun to their heads, tell you the three branches of government nor who we fought in WW 2.
Editorial
The Cabinet Departments today are in fact the new Praetorian Guard. they protect the “emperor” can destroy the emperor and can pick and choose the new emperor. Go ahead, deny this, try it! In addition, based on the Roman precedent, once the Praetorian Guard was in place, was it EVER removed? It was not because it cannot be removed, all the Red Waves in the world, Trump, DeSantis, whoever could not remove it. It is just there, like the weather.
So, this is another vote for “I’m going to ignore your question and basically just call young people feckless manipulated idiots” with a splash of “the GOP sucks, too, because it’s not controlled by real Conservatives.”
No it’s not. Often I think that you and the blowhard have a very hard time with reading comprehension. The youn’uns are woefully undereducated. They lack basic “civics” knowledge as can be demonstrated by numerous polls. In addition, they (and us boomers) have had it pretty damned soft compared to prior generations.
Sure, I can point to the depression and WW 2 as “hardening” our immediate elders but prior to that you had the hordes of immigrants (about a third of the population, at least, between 1885 and 1920) in my grandparents generation who had to adjust to a country not entirely friendly to them. Before them we are dealing with the pioneer generations where you worked and survived (or not). Remember the West “closed” officially in 1890, not terribly long ago.
As my old man said, on many occasions, “we have the richest poor people in the world”.
So, in passing, rather than ignore what I have said or twist it, if you can, go back and re-read it trying hard to get at the core.
Oh, sorry… not “stupid,” just “woefully undereducated.”
Oh, and by the way, who ran the schools during their education?
Who decided how to set up and fund schools during that education?
Who did the teaching?
Who controlled the media?
Who controlled virtually every aspect of the Government?
Who decided when and how to teach Civics that apparently did such a piss-poor job? Did Gen X dictate the Civics syllabus for their own classes? Did they, despite being underage, somehow elect themselves to the school boards, and use their positions to destroy Civics education?
Did they do this for themselves?
Did Gen Z, while being children themselves, also establish school districts, fund them, write curricula, teach, parent, and report the news? Did Millennials decide student loan policy or run the for-profit colleges that are impossibly expensive?
If they are so goddamned “undereducated,” who the everloving fuck was in the driver’s seat during their education? Huh?
If you starve your child, do you blame your her for being malnourished? Apparently, you would.
Your generation has been at war with mine since before I was born. You devastated our generations with terrible, shortsighted, selfish, greedy, policies and then have the balls to blame your failures on us.
Typical.
LEFTISTS, that’s who!
Which is why GENERATIONAL groups as a point of discussing political trends/power is ridiculous.
But let’s explore your condescension a bit by looking forward. You see these “educational changes” imposed on you by what is now the “olds” were created by the M generation of the past. They were done not for the M’s but for the future M’s. Because the old M’s thought such things as civics to be “fascist” and “indoctrination”. Now the modern M’s don’t have the same knowledge base as the “olds”. So what is the future going to look like as the “new M’s” take control and make even more changes. To you know, eliminate all this fascist BS imposed by the “olds”?
I see a future where Mathius and his age group are being shredded by the New Z’s for destroying the country. I see the New Z’s calling for the early retirement and/or death of the M’s so they can get on with fixing everything.
Mathius
One more thing. The fact that you express the following as your viewpoint then YES, I blame those who educated you.
“Your generation has been at war with mine since before I was born. You devastated our generations with terrible, shortsighted, selfish, greedy, policies and then have the balls to blame your failures on us.”
But here is the thing. Did you always have those views? Did you have them when you left High School? Or did you acquire them after that? How much of that tripe is due to the social media you frequent and the people you associate with at work or after hours.
You also forget that the boomer generation were strongly divided between liberals and conservatives in large part due to the Vietnam War. As we can see now by the make up of the the schools, universities and culture (Hollywood, MSM, etc.) the liberals gravitated to these institutions while the more conservative people gravitated to the technical fields and business. Who controls the schools today? Mostly the kids of the boomers. So stop equating boomers with conservatives. I say it is the liberals of all generations who have destroyed are schools.
No sir, the leftist SOB’s draft dodgers did it. I can remember the RUSH to get into teacher education majors in the late ’60’s. A draft exempt profession.
Imagine having a pair of stones and defying an illegal, immoral war? I LOVE ME THOSE SOBs. Then again, if you’re into setting mines on immigrants, Vietnam was a good place to practice one’s desires. 🙂
Yes, part of it is poor education and but a larger part of it is indoctrination. And it is not just the schools but society as a whole. Ten to twenty years ago, I could see some truth in the global warming arguments. But after decades of failed predictions, outright lies, data tampering, etc., for anyone to view this as anything but a giant hoax, means they are not living in reality. Yet we keep being inundated by the MSM and politicians with the BS. No wonder the kids are frightened.
The last three years we have seen the ability of big government to lie incessantly over the Fauci Plaque. Not only did they lie, they suppressed free speech as seen in the Twitter files. But maybe you have not seen this as the MSM is not covering it. But then why would they since they are a large part of the problem.
The same goes for the Russia hoax. It was a lie and the media knew it. That did not stop them since they hated Trump and would do anything to remove him from office. They even suppressed the Hunter story resulting in the current corrupt executive that we now have.
They spout that MAGA is dangerous to democracy when it is the lying MSM, the young turks in big tech who were not properly educated in democracy, the corrupt Democrat Party in conjunction with the go along get along Rinos that are the real danger to democracy.
Another example of a One Off or Nutpicking, as Mathius calls it.
When does the collection of nuts become enough to cause concern?
https://redstate.com/alexparker/2022/12/09/english-teacher-fights-the-white-supremacy-of-teaching-kids-to-write-properly-n671205
Did I ignore your question, Sir Mathius?
Yes.
ok
To the extent that SUFA folks, and our kin, have a political point of view it is obvious the R Party does not share it.. We all know this has been true for some time. It is also true that we did elect more like minded folks over the past ten years or so. But as I have tried to convey from the start, it take a lot of time to change enough seats to make a difference. There is no greater evidence of that than this statement made by a Republican Party Congressman about the fight for Speaker.
““If a small group refuses to play ball and be part of the team, then we’ll work across the aisle to find an agreeable Republican,” Bacon said. “But I hope we don’t get there.””
Note how he refers to the “freedom caucus” types. “A small group”.
The rebels would back McCarthy if he would agree to some of their reforms.
https://spectator.org/freedom-caucus-demands-are-not-unreasonable/
JAC……this is age old stuff. I have heard this for years and it is time worn. We have seen the changes over the years…..some good and some bad. We were asleep at the wheel in the 70s…We were too involved in making our own life, that we over looked the forest. Somewhere along the line, we lost the ethics of you should work for what you get. Today it is all about reparations and we are “entitled” to this or we are “entitled” to that when no one is entitled to anything unless they earn it.
I can see why the Mathius group thinks like they do but where I lose the context is in…..you better see it our way because it is the only way…it loses me.
I raised my children to do what is right according to the way they feel. My children have a great education….not from public schools. I raised my children to ask for nothing and take nothing that is not theirs. But, I am very afraid for the future generations. I see a change that is about to happen that I believe is not going to bode well. But, it is their generation. I am glad that I have positioned myself properly. I think the next generations are in for an awakening but that is the way things evolve. They yell about being included and they scream about equity yet most of them work for companies that do not do what they yell and scream about. It seems that this younger generation that Mathius talks about is not inclusive at all,,,,,meaning, if we do not believe their way we are the ones on the outs. It is their way or the highway. This cancel culture is the same thing….their way or no way.
So, that said…times are changing. I am reminded of the conversations with my father. He told me that I am to do what I feel is correct. Ask for nothing and take nothing. So, we shall see what the future holds…and you are correct. When Mathius reaches our age, he will go through what we are going through now.
I hope I am not alive but probably will be when the Chinese decide to march on the world…..and they will. Mathius is all up in arms about antisemitism and what the world did not do in the 20s and 30s…..the same thing is happening except this time it is not the Germans. He ain’t seen nothing yet. It is the Chinese and it is coming but here is the rub, IN MY OPINION. This country has no more balls. The generations that are taking over do not see the things this country ignored back in the 20s and 30s…..no one got involved and the German fascism and the Japanese Imperialism caused two world wars. Those two wars would not have been won without the United States and the men and women who stood up.
The next coming war with China……we will have no one to fight because the spine and the desire will not be there. This is what I am afraid of and I can speak to it because I see it now…what is happening to the officer corps in the military. And the officer corp now is not the baby boomers. They were gone long ago.
But……alas…….the Red Team, as Mathius likes to call it, got their asses handed to them in one fashion….but the Blue Team got clobbered in the down ballot races. We shall see what becomes of that. Trump is out….who runs for the Dems…..other than Biden. The house minority speaker is so far left…but that is the ilk of these generations. We shall see…….We shall see.
Colonel
I share your dim view of the American experiment on the long run. I also share your view of China. I in fact have been beating that drum for a long time, to little avail.
I would only clarify that the weak knees found in the US extend to OUR generation as well. This is where WE are really failing. The problem is that WE is a generation, but it is not WE the right or conservative types that are the problem. Hence, this is not a generational problem.
IT IS AN IDEOLOGICAL PROBLEM.
Correct
Bullshit.
By the time I’m as old as you, I’ll probably be to the left of Charlie.
By that time the whole thing will have collapsed and you will be standing there with a handful of dandelions wondering how it happened and who to blame.
Mathius
It is not BS. You will be left of Charlie and the new YOUNGONES will be to the right of Atilla the Hun.
“This country has no more balls. The generations that are taking over do not see the things this country ignored back in the 20s and 30s…..no one got involved and the German fascism and the Japanese Imperialism caused two world wars. Those two wars would not have been won without the United States and the men and women who stood up.”
FACTS: Russia was most responsible for winning the war in Europe and an atomic bomb shortened the war with Japan. Korea was just another waste of life. As was Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Afghanistan and Iraq (without naming the 5 other Muslim countries we bombed (Obama) with drones because we’re exceptional warriors (and then Trump stepped up the drone strikes. Between Obama and OJ, we killed FAR MORE civilians than actual combatants). FACTS.
We were late to both WW dances, but when it came to Grenada, we flexed like the warriors we think we are. Now we’re feeding the military industrial complex with a proxy war that is and will continue to decimate the Ukrainian people.
We’re not the good guys, Colonel. We’re just not. The American people have allowed greedy and corrupt to make the kinds of decisions that will collapse an empire.
Time to buy AMZN if you’ve got some extra cash laying around… targeting 100 for a ~20% return by 4Q23. The market seems to have forgotten that AWS is a thing that exists.
Yes, and I agree with that. I made a small fortune off them before it went south….but recently have bought back in. Unfortunately, I did not make a good call on META. Too bad decisions, META and CoinBase. The rest have worked well.
I had a big META put position, but lost faith… it would have made a bloody fortune, but instead made like $5.
AWS???
Amazon Web Services
Careful! Ground report from SE Mich isn’t good. My co workers and I are nervous. This is peak season, yet they have been cutting hours. Either full hours or even just 15 mins from shifts. I JUST received a robo call saying they have cancelled an overnight shift completely thru the end of the year. I’m jus sayin.
I’m sorry to hear that…
But I THINK that that is already priced into the stock. Still targeting ~$100+.
Upside case is $140, but that seems… optimistic.
Unsure….I would be very surprised if the $140 mark was reached. If AMZN reaches $100….I think I cut and run.
Well, I mean.. eventually.. but not until we come out on the other side of this upcoming recession.
This is possible. My brain has it pegged at 105-110 by this time next year.
I… very much doubt that.
Even so, this is why I like my options, though… I got some comparatively cheap 120 calls and, if it does rip, I pick up all that upside without too much downside risk.
As always, casino rules: you can’t lose what you put in.
Anita, the same thing is happening here. Amazon laying off by the hundreds. Also, the industrial airport of Alliance, built in North Fort Worth, was designed to be a hub. It is full of huge warehouses and hangars for Amazon, Dollar General Fed Ex…..you know the types. Amazon has reduced flights into and out of Alliance by 1/3. And it is not only Amazon… it is brewing.
Anita, my love, welcome to capitalism. 🙂
When everything becomes about political power:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3768506-house-covid-panel-accuses-trump-administration-of-exacerbating-the-pandemic-in-its-final-report/
Mathius
Time to deal with some concretes regarding your Generational War.
The Republicans tried to change the whole idea of Social Security and replace it with a Federal Retirement System, of sorts, in which the “younger generation” could invest their retirement savings. This would have created personal accounts where in the funds were yours, not part of the Federal Budget, and would have had greater benefits at retirement. Assuming average historical returns.
This Soc Sec Reform proposal did not give the Boomers the same program. The new program would have benefited the Younger groups. The rest of us had to suffer the old system.
But this idea DIED, it was killed outright.
So WHO killed it?
How was this idea an attack on the “young ones”?
I remember Bush43 pushing this reform in 04/05 and in particular an interview with I think Charlie Rose. The topic of investments in the stock market came up. Bush missed a golden opportunity. He should of asked Rose if he had a 401K or IRA and where was the money invested. If the market was good enough for Rose, then why was it not good enough for everyone else?
Reagan in 1984 or 1986 signed the SS reform act that increased the tax to fund the boomer pulse. Unfortunately this money was “loaned” to the government at 2% and promptly spent. Had we taken the excess moneys collected starting then and placed them in private type IRA accounts with conservative investing, we would not have a SS problem now.
President Joe Biden announced Thursday he will pump $36 billion into a union pension plan to prevent drastic benefit cuts for pensioners, just a week after he signed a railroad labor deal opposed by several
union organizations.
Shameful
$10B here, $100B there, who cares, it is just play money.
In “part one” of the third installment, which dates from October 2020-January 6th, Substack writer Matt Taibbi told his followers, “We’ll show you what hasn’t been revealed: the erosion of standards within the company in months before J6, decisions by high-ranking executives to violate their own policies, and more, against the backdrop of ongoing, documented interaction with federal agencies.”
“Whatever your opinion on the decision to remove Trump that day, the internal communications at Twitter between January 6th-January 8th have clear historical import. Even Twitter’s employees understood in the moment it was a landmark moment in the annals of speech,” Taibbi wrote on Friday.
He then shared a screenshot of a Twitter employee asking, “Is this the first sitting head of state to ever be suspended?”
Taibbi reported that executives at Twitter “started processing new power” following their decision to ban Trump, indicating they were “prepared to ban future presidents and White Houses – perhaps even Joe Biden. The ‘new administration,’ says one exec, ‘will not be suspended by Twitter unless absolutely necessary.’”
After alluding to the second installment of the Twitter Files that addressed the shadowbanning of conservatives, Taibbi reported, “As the election approached, senior executives – perhaps under pressure from federal agencies, with whom they met more as time progressed – increasingly struggled with rules, and began to speak of “vios” as pretexts to do what they’d likely have done anyway.”On Thursday, The Free Press editor Bari Weiss revealed Twitter’s efforts to suppress prominent conservatives, a resurfaced September 2018 clip of Dorsey’s testimony to a congressional committee was asked point-blank whether Twitter “censors” its users.
She pointed to Stanford University’s Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a longstanding opponent of COVID groupthink during the pandemic who expressed opposition to lockdowns.
“Twitter secretly placed him on a ‘Trends Blacklist,’ which prevented his tweets from trending,” Weiss reported.
She reported that Fox News host Dan Bongino was placed on a “Search Blacklist” and Twitter had Turning Point USA’s Charlie Kirk on “Do Not Amplify.”
=======================================
Of course, we will not hear from the left on this.
Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calif., continued his defense of the First Amendment on “America’s Newsroom” Friday after Elon Musk’s second installment of the “Twitter Files” revealed the platform secretly “blacklisted” certain tweets and users. In the first release by reporter Matt Taibbi, an email from Khanna showed the congressman expressing his concerns to Twitter about their actions to suppress the New York Post’s Hunter Biden stories.
We shouldn’t be censoring people and shouldn’t be censoring them based on viewpoint. What concerns me with the second release of the “Twitter Files” is it seems some people are being censored or de-amplified because of their beliefs. Another thing is to have respect, and I don’t think you want these sites to have anti-Semitism or racism. But my understanding is it’s going beyond that. It’s not just that they’re taking down speech that is hate. And Elon Musk has said he wants to take that down. It’s that they’re censoring based on viewpoint. And that’s simply not what we do in this country.
So says
“And that’s simply not what we do in this country.”
Unless you’re calling journalists “enemies of the people.” Then I guess it’s fine. 🙂
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/12/09/st-louis-democrat-mayor-appoints-reparations-commission-blames-decades-disinvestment/
Here we go again. It’s just play money so we might as well buy votes with it.
Journalists, enemies of the people or of truth? Or does one guarantee the other?
Well, if you’re Stalin or Trump, I guess it’s the people. 🙂
https://www.foxnews.com/media/detransitioning-woman-left-heartbroken-irreversible-surgery-manipulated
Her words ring true.
I hadn’t been to the Fox site in a long time until last week, when I noticed they wouldn’t let me in unless I turned off my ad blocker. I figured maybe your link would let me in….nope.
Interesting analysis of voting in Maricopa County, Arizona. I will point out that just because voting does not fit historical trends does not prove fraud. But there was a singular event that has been documented. The problem with tabulators and the connected issue of votes that were not counted until later. Supposedly. It should be easy for the Clerks to prove all votes were counted. This is one place where a recount should show if the number of ballots then and now differs significantly. Unless of course, those ballots were destroyed.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/12/maricopa_or_die.html
FTA: Why is the standard for proving election fraud so high? “You must prove in a court of law that enough cheating occurred to flip the results.” Instead, our Boards of Elections should be able to produce evidence to anyone who asks how they ensured an honest election, including how the ballots were generated, verified, transported, and totaled in front of non-partisan or bi-partisan observers. If not, they should lose their jobs.
I would add that a new election should be held.
Anita
Exactly. As I have stated several times, we found out after 2020 that the legal bar is ridiculous. Unlike any other legal case. You are not granted discovery or power to subpoena without prior evidence, which you can’t get without subpoena. And the timeline is not adequate to build evidence needed or to deal with a serious case if it arises.
I am not willing to call for a new election yet. But I think the two elected should be put on HOLD until the Maricopa mess can be sorted out. If it turns out those votes were not counted then they need to be matched up with voters and then counted. Or a new election held.
Question for you, JAC. At what point do you give up with this bullshit? Seriously, dude, it’s over. He lost and she lost. There wasn’t any voter fraud. People with functioning brain cells, even Republicans who haven’t mainlined themselves with Trump’s bullshit (you’d call them RHINOS, I guess), didn’t vote for him or her. So, when do you try and do something about it other than cry foul over and over and over …
I will stop discussing it when the system is restored to something we can all trust. Your snarky commentary notwithstanding.
Well, let’s face it, JAC, snarky comments aside, that won’t happen until you win one. Then I’m sure it’ll be hunky-dory … but you best jettison Orange Man before it’s too late.
Charlie, you are actually in the minority:
https://crimeresearch.org/2022/03/rasmussen-reports-survey-most-voters-think-that-cheating-affected-the-outcome-of-the-2020-presidential-election/
It is 58%:40% who believe the 2020 election was fraudulent.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/03/28/new_peer-reviewed_research_finds_evidence_of_2020_voter_fraud_147378.html#!
Uh, not quite.
https://www.newsweek.com/40-americans-think-2020-election-stolen-days-before-midterms-1756218
Not at all.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/02/viral-image/no-most-americans-dont-believe-2020-election-was-f/
Now that you know most Americans know Trump was full of shit, T-Man. Do you still want him at the top of your ticket? I would think not. He would get crushed in 2024 by a zombie like Biden. He’d lost to Harris (and that’s saying something). He’s toast. The Republicans who haven’t swallowed the swill (and there’s a good % of them) will either not vote or vote Dem. He’ll never see 71 million again. It’s over, brother. You guys have to find someone to take his place. It may take 2 voting cycles before you’ll recover. He’s done IMMENSE damage to your party. You still have a collection of his sycophants in Congress and the Senate. They’ll have to be rooted out too. Your party would do good to have a closed door conference and accept the fact they have to come out in unison to condemn him. You’ll still lose, especially if he can run as an independent for the sake of spite (which is his life-blood), but it’ll be awhile before you win a general election unless you jettison that garbage.
These Twitter file dumps are getting spicy! PROOF the government used Twitter to do something it knows won’t fly regarding free speech. Reading through some of this stuff, how can someone not be suspicious of a rigged election? Have to wonder how much got deleted since Musk first expressed interest in buying Twitter. I don’t care what label Charlie my man wants to pin on me, but I like these…vindication and schadenfreude.
Anita, my love, I would only pin a corsage on you … but 2020 and 2022 are over. Your guy and gal lost. If they ever want to win another general election, they need to lose the lunatic in Mar-a-Lago. He makes it worse for himself and his party every day/every time he opens his mouth. Does anything think the so-called Rhinos will vote for him now that he’s hanging with lunatics like the Qanon queen who was professing to be a Rothschild, except she wasn’t?
They didn’t lose, my man. They didn’t get the office, but they didn’t lose.
74 from 81 = 7 … they lost.
Trump wins again. Judge throws out the contempt charge. Sorry, not sorry, Charlie
Anita, my love, that judge just did the DOJ a big favor. Now they can either indict the Orange Man or hit him with a ton of search warrants. That’s all that judge did, and probably intentionally. Republicans who haven’t bought into Trump’s nonsense want nothing more than for him to be indicted and eventually precluded from ruining their chances in 2024.
How are the Rinos going to overcome a 74 million vote handicap?
They lost with that number and they’ll be lucky to see 50 million in 2024 if Trump heads the ticket. It’s over, baby. He’s toast.
More insanity. Good lord, what happened to common sense.
https://redstate.com/jeffc/2022/12/10/colorado-school-principal-unfairly-accused-of-possessing-child-porn-n671809
Common sense is uncommon.
Anita, it’s down here, hope this works.
FOX NEWS FLASH Published December 9, 2022 6:30pm EST
Detransitioning woman left ‘heartbroken’ after irreversible: ‘I was manipulated’
American Girl stands by gender book for minors amid backlash
Madeline Coggins By Madeline Coggins | Fox News
Facebook
Twitter
Flipboard
Comments
Print
Email
Transgender messages for young girls ‘incredibly confusing,’ ‘predatory’: Prisha Mosley
24-year-old Prisha Mosley details her story of detransitioning back to a woman after undergoing gender-altering procedures at a young age and reacts to the controversial American Girl Doll book including gender-transitioning messages.
After beginning transitioning as a young girl and undergoing a double mastectomy at 18 years old, now 24-year-old Prisha Mosley is detransitioning and speaking out about her struggles.
Gatorade
SPONSORED by Gatorade
Fuel Fun. Fuel Tomorrow
Put the “play” back in playing sports. You get the most from the game when you’re having fun.
Learn More
“One of the issues I have is the lack of identity,” Mosley explained. “And on top of not having a lot of friends and having issues at home, when I found the trans community and found a new identity and was affirmed… that’s what caused me to transition.”
On “America Reports” Friday, Mosley attributed her mental health condition and manipulation from therapists and doctors for her decision to transition at such a young age. She said her parents were also manipulated into supporting the gender change.
“I was manipulated not only by my trans peers, but by my gender specialist, the person who gave me my letter of recommendation in surgery. It was all sold as like a wonderful thing,” she said.
DETRANSITIONED TEEN WANTS TO HOLD ‘GENDER-AFFIRMING’ SURGEONS ACCOUNTABLE: ‘WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IS HORRIBLE’
“It wasn’t like a medical condition that you needed to be treated that was sad or serious. It was like a fun thing like you’re trans now and it’s celebrated and you’re wonderful and you’re a hero and all of that. And you know, that attention is what I was looking for.”
Mosley shared that getting treatment for underlying diagnoses that predated her gender dysphoria prompted her to start detransitioning.
Many of Mosley’s treatments and procedures during her transition are irreversible, including her double mastectomy, also known as top surgery.Detransitioner Chloe Cole speaks out on lawsuit against doctors who performed double mastectomyVideo
“The whole time to me, I feel like I was in like a fugue. I was so mentally unwell and unstable, and that was the time in which the trans community really found me,” Mosley told host John Roberts. “But the whole thing just feels really messed up to me.”
“I’m heartbroken… there’s just a lot of grief.”
DETRANSITIONER, EXPERTS ISSUE WARNING OVER AMERICAN GIRL PUSHING GENDER TRANSITIONS: ‘PROTECT YOUR DAUGHTERS’
Detrasitioners including Mosley have joined experts in criticizing American Girl over its recent book “A Smart Girl’s Guide: Body Image” which includes discussions on gender identity. Mosley shared her thoughts on the company’s publication.
“Every single person who’s about to go through or who is going through puberty is uncomfortable with their body. And it’s changing and it’s hard. And this language is so confusing and so strange and nuanced for them,” Mosley said.”It’s incredibly confusing. I almost think it’s predatory. It’s setting them up for confusion.”
American Girl has defended the book despite the backlash.
CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP
Mosley is using her experience to encourage other young girls to consider their mental health before making physical alterations to their bodies.
“I’m finally out of denial,” she said.
Ya gotta feel sorry for the girl at this point. The parents need their heads examined now. I’ve been following the saga of Dwayne Wade, NBA ‘star’, and his teenage son posing as daughter, and how he supports the whole thing. The commentary is basically…yeah, you may think its cool now, but when all your peers are beginning to date and even marry, they’re not going to be looking your way no matter how much cash you have. You’ll be left behind. Then what? Self loathing, Suicidal thoughts and all that. THEN too, his biological mother is against the whole thing but she has been unsuccessful in changing anything at this point. Shame, shame.
Thanks for hooking me up V.
I wonder how much of this is due to the fact that kids today do not have jobs hence do not experience the feeling of worth that develops from them. They have way too much spare time to spend on phones and chats. They basically have no responsibilities until they are 18, then we expect them to behave as adults. In the old days, kids took on major work roles starting at 18. By 16 many girls were married. 18 year old boys often struck out on their own and started farms and other businesses or were skilled in a trade. Today we coddle them until they are 21 or 26 per ACA.
The other part is this is a fad with a lot of peer pressure behind it. It is even worse when supported by adults.
I have to somewhat agree, T-man. I was working (delivering papers) at 12, then hauling watermelons at 15, McDonalds at 16 and so on … still working. Just 1 of my 3 brats worked while a senior in high school. They all worked while in college and have been working since. But I agree and blame it on technology and parents. Hardly ever see kids playing outside anymore. They’re hooked on electronics, it seems. Not a good omen for the future.
Or, bear with me, this is bullshit.
Even a coal power plant is still vastly more efficient and clean than having thousands of individual internal combustion engines.
Even a marginal improvement is improvement.
———–
Also, not for nothing, but I absolutely LOVE my little car, and even if it weren’t better for the environment, it is still easily the best car I’ve ever owned,.
Fast forward to the part where Biden says there will be no more coal plants.
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
Your only real alternatives are NG and nuclear. Wind and solar are not viable for 24/7 power generation. Thorium reactors could work but we are not investing in them. Fusion has been a pipe dream for the last 40 years and still is decades away.
By the way, my ICE Dakota is 21 years old with 217Kmi on it, still original drive train and in fine rust free shape. How many battery backs will you go through by then and will you be still driving it? What about disposal? What about the Li, Cu, Co and rare earth metals that need to dug out of the ground and processed? Who is building your batteries? How many children will die from mining the cobalt? You are deluding yourself if you feel smug about driving a “pollution” free car.
Would it not be more environmentally favorable subsidize or give China and India clean coal technology to clean up their air of pollutants? CO2 is not the problem but NOx, SOx, O3, soot, etc are big health problems that do not obey borders or oceans.
I drive my car because I love my car. It is a fantastic, efficient, easy, cheap-to-own, cheap-to-power, cheap-to-maintain, cheap-to-insure, little red convertible, that is amazing in the snow, and has near-instant heat.
I love that I can “fill up” for free at work or in my garage, an that (having done the math), I get something like 90c / gal equivalent “gas.” I don’t even need to mention the existence of pollution or climate change in order to justify the basic fact that I LIKE MY CAR.
——–
Tailpipe emissions (of which I have none) are only one source, you are correct, and I so-stipulate. I reject, per the above, the horsehit idea that my industrial-produced electricity is no better than your ICE, and I think you’d stipulate to that.
I’d also point out that I’m adding solar panels to my house that will cover both my car and home use… so… yea, there’s that, too.
——–
We can quibble over the costs of battery manufacture, the lifespan of those batteries, and so forth. We could go back and forth about that until we’re both dead in the ground. You can point at kids dying in cobalt mines and I can point at the health effects of pollution and climate change. Nothing is perfect.
All I can aim at is “better.”
I’ll let you duke it out with the folks over at the Argonne National Laboratory
Nonetheless, I have offered zero “smugness” nor any pretension to the idea that I am driving a “pollution-free” vehicle.
What I am diving is a car I love, that I enjoy, and that I think – on balance – is less bad than many alternatives.
You’ll note the smugness didn’t come from my corner. It came from Anita’s meme (good job, by the way, Anita… you’ve got that posting-images-in-the-comments thing down!). That meme makes the asinine implication that unless my car is perfect, it’s all “pretend” as if marginal improvement isn’t a thing. It’s the “gotcha” smugness that comes with winning a fight against a strawman.
JAC, check the meat locker for me, will you? I had a good one snatched from me.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/german-molecular-biologist-unveils-concept-worlds-first-artificial-womb-facility-can-incubate-30000-lab-grown-babies-year-video/
Wow, in some ways I’m thrilled, but in other ways, my gut is absolutely horrified.
The future is here, BEWARE!
Mathius called this one.
I do that quite a lot, actually.
Indeed, I did…. still…
“German Molecular Biologist Unveils CONCEPT of World’s First Artificial Womb Facility.”
Wake me up when “concept” becomes “viable”
Still, we lost three fetuses to miscarriages, one of which was ectopic and cost an ovary. To have had the option of transplanting those, and letting them grow into children… this is the best kind of technology.
I also, very specifically called this aspect: “In an interview with Science and Stuff, Al-Ghaili revealed that he believes the EctoLife concept would replace natural birth in the future.”
Lastly, let’s not forget what else I predicted: that once the technology actually exists, that the abortion debate will shift lines.
It’s going to be extremely interesting in the next decade or two to see how this plays out… there are a dozen ways this can play out, but the one thing I am sure about is this: it’s faaaaar too effective of a voter-motivation / donation-driving tool for The Powers That Be to give up on. The left and right will find new ways to look at this debate that carry the argument into the foreseeable future.
Lastly, I leave you with this: Eventually – not soon, but eventually – it is going to be the case that artificial wombs are “just as good” and then “better/ safer” than biological/natural wombs. This is the inevitable trajectory of technology.
When this comes, will we see the right push back on the “unnaturalness of “choosing” to use an artificial womb”? Will we see the left calling it “child abuse” to opt for the less healthy/safe technology in favor of the Old Ways?
When someone figures out that gestating for an extra month is an option, or providing this-or-that extra hormone adds 15 IQ points, are we going to see the right push back on evil “experimenting on children!!1!” or are we going to see the left try to mandate it?
Will we see the right try to restrict access to just married biological parents? Will the left intransigently insist on zero restrictions?
Stay tuned!
Oooh.. actually.. .last one for real….
Thus far, the “quiverful” types have been throttled by the biological fact that they can only have one child pregnancy at a time. What happens when the religious fundamentalists decide to start mass-producing offspring?
I lied. THIS is the last one.
Also, consider the potential for cloning… hooooo boy!
Marjorie Taylor Greene “jokes” about a better organized January 6 in the future. 🙂 Keep’em comin’, honey! Every time she or Trump or Kari Lake opens their mouths, the GOP digs a deeper hole.
Can this clown EVER stop lying? The smart money says … FORGETABOUTIT. 🙂
“I turned down a deal with Russia for a one on one swap of the so-called Merchant of Death for Paul Whelan. I wouldn’t have made the deal for a hundred people in exchange for someone that has killed untold numbers of people with his arms deals,” Trump said on Truth Social.
Paul Whelan’s brother said he’s full of shit (in less graphic terms). https://thehill.com/policy/international/3771158-trump-says-he-turned-down-deal-to-release-paul-whelan/
An FYI for those who think I’m just being paranoid:
I went to Friday night services at my synagogue last week.
I haven’t been in years, but my daughter is prepping for her bat mitzvah, and was leading Shabbat services, so, obviously, I attended.
Anyway, the upshot is that for this random Friday night service at my small temple, there were four armed guards (that I saw) and a whole slew of security cameras.
Just a data point, perhaps, but security like that ain’t cheap. I’m used to seeing it for high holidays*. But for a normal day without any specific impetus… no. This is not business as usual.
Now… this doesn’t prove anything in any absolute terms… but it does show that MY radar isn’t the only one picking up Bad Things.
——–
* These services are held at a different site in order to accommodate larger attendance. I generally make one or two such events each year, and those have always had a palpable security presence. But that’s a different animal.
Curious as to who you think you should be scared of. I ask because I thought about you last week when I read this:
https://www.wxyz.com/news/anti-semitism-is-here-parents-and-rabbi-describe-friday-anti-semitic-assault-in-bloomfield-hills
At the moment: no one.
Maaayyyyyybbbeeeee a random crazed nuts akin to a school shooter… I mean, I guess it’s a risk, but as a percentage shot, I’m a lot more concerned about teenagers staring at their phones while driving when I cross the street due.
But, as I say, it’s the trajectory that has my hackles up. I think the normalization of antisemitic talking points, of blaming Jews for things, making it socially acceptable to be a Nazi apologist, accusing Jewish cabals of controlling the media and the banks… I think it starts add up and eventually snowball.
Antisemitism goes from ostracism-worthy, condemnation-worth, to unacceptable, [we are here], to kinda-sorta-tolerated-with-blind-eye… then it starts into ‘normalization territory’ that ends with 𝓑𝓪𝓭 𝓣𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰𝓼.
We’ve got plenty of time before 𝓑𝓪𝓭 𝓣𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰𝓼 are plausible/likely to really get underway. Probably years. Unfortunately, the colonel has fired my crystal ball into the gulf, so I can’t be more accurate than that.
As for the “who”… well, that’s easy: Basically, anyone who fell hard for Trump is the kind of person who will fall hard for the “blame the Jews” anthem once it gets underway.
The demagoguing populism that blames conspiracies and spooky-others for all the world’s ills. They’re the ones who are going to swallow the bait when someone with a big microphone and enough charisma says “Jews are the ones we should blame. Let’s thrown them down the well!” ”
The biggest thing, though is this: People who are comfortable and feel safe don’t go looking for scapegoats. The worse things get for the Average Joe, the more appealing it will become to latch onto someone to blame.. and, historically, that ‘someone’ has a nasty habit of being the Jews. Once blame is assigned, 𝓑𝓪𝓭 𝓣𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰𝓼 start happening.
Antia,
A followup.
Assuming that you attend a church, or have been to one in recent memory, or know people who have…
Do you find that [random church] feels the need for armed security and tons of security cameras?
And, if not, what do you think accounts for this difference that churches don’t feel the need for a significant security presence while temples do?
I know the standard SUFA response are some version of either (A) “it’s actually the leftist liberal democrats who are responsible because…” or (B) “the Jews are just being paranoid / manipulated”… but I’d honestly appreciate it if you could offer any other thoughts you might have.
No sir…went to a funeral service the other day in Aledo, Tx….a small rural town outside Fort Worth (where I live). the funeral was for the wife of a bowling friend of mine. It is a Christian church called the Church at the Crossing…..security cameras all the way around, doors locked except for main door and 2 armed guards were present…for a funeral that was for a simple woman. All churches are feeling ostracized from what I read. They are verbally attacked almost constantly. The big main churches in Texas are all with security cameras and armed guards…..but, as you know, and history has pointed out…..most church going members carry weapons anyway. Last church issue was stopped by an 80 year old lady who pulled her weapon and takes down a shooter.
Most of the big churches, I am told, also have metal detectors and if you do not have a concealed carry license, you are not allowed a weapon.
You do not have an exclusive, my friend. I feel that all organized religion is under assault.
1) I’d first like to mention that you spelled my name wrong but I only point that out because I know you have good grammar, so cheap dig, but moving on…
2) I think this is the first time in my life that I have realized that I don’t know a single Jew personally. I never have. Not a single one. And that has me stumped. But anyway..
In my area, its safe to assume that there are plenty of people carrying at all times. It may or may not follow that they carry in church, but thinking about my family, friends and neighbors….there’s plenty of guns in church around here. So the need for that public display isn’t as big a concern. Are Jews known to carry or no?
If you’re trying to keep this in a religious aspect, in general, Jews and Christians get along. Why the Muslims have a problem with Jews is much the same as why they have a problem with Christians. I don’t know how that gets sorted out but aside from the physical state of Israel, we have a common foe.
If we keep it more secular, I don’t get why Jews get a bad rep in regards to being leaders in banking and media and things. More power to you for earning your status. I don’t see how religion is even considered when talking about success.
One sure place you’re going to get a collection of Jews is in a temple, so the hate goes there. At the same time, there is plenty of hate in the world these days. All different groups are being hit, religious, political, and cultural. It sucks, but everyone should be alert, not just Jews.
The Jewish question? I took a class from a very controversial (not to me) Jewish professor and academic scholar, Norman Finkelstein. I still communicate with him from time to time. He’s a genuine humanitarian (snowflake to yous at SUFA) and has been condemned as a “self-hating Jew” because of his belief in the rights of Palestinians. I grew up in a Jewish-Italian-Irish working class neighborhood (racist as the south). Finkelstein’s theory is that the war of publicity as regards Palestinians is already won (i.e., a condemnation of Israeli politics and policies, not Jews). He once argued that the “new anti-Semitism” is more hyped by the Israeli lobby, etc., than actual (real). I’m not sure how he feels about it now, but I tend to agree that the shit that Trump et al brought to the American scene is an encouragement of the anti-Semitic lunatics and that THAT is very real. I’d stay alert if I were Jewish and attending religious services. The lunatics are very real, and the fact the GOP ignores it is just one more notch on their belt of hypocrisy. Defending the likes of Trump and his BFFs is pathetic. As is their ignoring MTG’s latest comments about having a better organized Knucklehead Revolution (with Bannon) and that they would’ve been armed. It was her absurd attempt to lay claim that the attempted coup wasn’t organized. If you continue to defend that bullshit, your party will NEVER win a general election in the foreseeable future. Good luck with that. 🙂
I wonder why, unless I missed it, any of our resident lefties on here have nothing to say about the documents released by Musk and the apparent government censorship efforts.
“Any of”.. all two of us.
Ok, hit me with a recap and I’ll offer my thoughts.
Preliminary thought: regardless of whether he’s right or wrong in THIS instance, Musk is a piece of shit and will be amongst the first up against the wall when Charlie’s revolution comes.
You truly are captured by the MSM if you have not followed this story. Charlie’s revolution will never come because the Stasi are already running the show and by your ignorance, you approve.
I don’t expect Charlie’s revolution will be kind to sympathizers… best watch what you say…
——
I haven’t followed the story because, like most such stories, I assume it’s overblown horseshit and pearl-grasping by conservatives with a mile-wide victimhood complex. I figured that, sooner or later, it would find its way here and I’d end up doing a deeper dive, but haven’t bothered to do so preemptively. If I spent my life following every woe-is-me “government overreach” vs “poor bullied centi-billionaire with his own social media platform,” I’d lose what little is left of my mind.
So the FBI, CIA, and Defense Intelligence Agency colluding with big tech to sensor conservatives and the Hunter story are not important? There is no way this could be viewed as election interference. As you say, it is just horseshit. But woe betides me if I use the wrong pronoun.
Could you perhaps be a bit more clear?
Is this the God-Given First Amendment Right to see stolen and leaked photos Hunter Biden’s erect penis?
Well, T Ray….they have been posting the exact Twitter postings and emails with addresses not blacked out (as they should) but I will bet it is a consipracy now because Musk is on the outs now.
Charlie’s revolution is consumed with my beloved New York State Buffalo Bills these days. Soon as they choke (again) and are gone during the playoffs, the tossing of bodies from roofs begins anew. Meanwhile, what say the righties on this psycho site about all the whining about Viktor Bout? I assume it’s high level whining because that’s what they do … but doubt they had a problem with this:
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/23/949679837/shock-and-dismay-after-trump-pardons-blackwater-guards-who-killed-14-iraqi-civil?fbclid=IwAR1UhqI7Mfv6NKQjlArXPo3tR42gqeuRk7WKV0vTtN2waMWYcBKLxGJ3G2Q
But you followed with interest…the J6 hearings…interesting.
I just tried to take a look, but honestly, there’s so much bullshit flying around out there, it’s hard to be sure what you’re actually getting at. Which source of inchoate outrage are we up in arms about today?
> That twitter had a policy of shadow banning problematic users?
> That Biden aides asked Twitter to remove leaked naked pictures of his son and Twitter complied? That, somehow, a father asking that people not be able to share revenge porn of his son violates your Constitutional rights?
> That rightwing outrage factory “Libs of TikTok” was configured to be amplified in an effort to keep conservatives engaged and on the site?
> That the left is clamoring to ban TikTok as Chinese propaganda and spyware (which it is), and in doing so, would be offering a massive boon to Twitter?
> That Musk has threatened to fire anyone who leaks, and is engaging in a psychotic witch hunt for those leakers, including (allegedly) breaching private DMs of employees to see who they are talking to?
> That, before the 2020 election (note: While Trump was President), the government gave confidential briefings to a few tech companies including Twitter about election security which some people are claiming was coercive somehow?
At what are we frothing at the mouth about this time?
> That twitter had a policy of shadow banning problematic users?
Funny how they only shadow banned conservatives.
They banned the NYP over a legit story, they banned Dr. Bhattacharya for disagreeing with Fauci, they banned Dan Bongino for quoting liberal media, they banned Trump while their own censors told them he had not broken the rules. There are a host of other issues that you need to educate yourself on. All of this while Anitfa and BLM had free rein to organize their riots without interference. The fact that you had not heard about this because the MSM is squelching the information speaks volumes. Wake up man before our freedoms are totally gone.
> That Biden aides asked Twitter to remove leaked naked pictures of his son and Twitter complied? That, somehow, a father asking that people not be able to share revenge porn of his son violates your Constitutional rights?
The NYP banning was not about lude pictures or even his drug use, it was about the corruption of the Biden family (10% for the Big Guy). This was suppressed before the election and is a far bigger issue of election interference than the measly few thousand dollars the Russians spent during the 2016 election. Or don’t you care because DJT lost and that was all the mattered?
> That rightwing outrage factory “Libs of TikTok” was configured to be amplified in an effort to keep conservatives engaged and on the site?
As far as I know the Libs of TikTok just retweeted what the liberals were saying. If all they are doing is quoting the left, why would that be offensive unless the original message was offensive.
> That the left is clamoring to ban TikTok as Chinese propaganda and spyware (which it is), and in doing so, would be offering a massive boon to Twitter?
Tiktok should be banned for those reasons alone. It has nothing to do with Twitter, et. al.
> That Musk has threatened to fire anyone who leaks, and is engaging in a psychotic witch hunt for those leakers, including (allegedly) breaching private DMs of employees to see who they are talking to?
Psychotic in whose opinion?
> That, before the 2020 election (note: While Trump was President), the government gave confidential briefings to a few tech companies including Twitter about election security which some people are claiming was coercive somehow?
If the IRS came to you and gave you briefings, would you not take their words seriously? Or would you determine the veracity of their statements and chart your own course risking a potential audit? In the case of big tech, if the advice aligned with your political views already, would you not give greater credence and act accordingly even if the evidence did not support the decision. Remember, Google had a company wide meeting after 2016 and vowed not to repeat the “mistake” again.
> At what are we frothing at the mouth about this time?
Mathius, for and intelligent person, I am amazed at how uninformed you are. The confluence of government, big corporations, media, and now big tech is the very definition of Fascism. Your government has been lying to you your entire life. It is time to wake up.
The Stasi … T-man, you never fail to exaggerate. If there’s ever a Stasi in the US&A, it’ll come from the right … the same lunatics clutching a flag and kissing a cross.
In case you haven’t noticed, “the left is the real [bad thing]” is one the main go-to for SUFA when confronted with anything their side does.
“No, the REAL [Nazis / Stasi / bullies / fascists / criminals / pedophiles / crooks / liars / 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓮𝓻𝓼/ etc] are the Democrat Party and blue state librulz!”
Repeat ad nauseam.
How could one not notice? 🙂 I mean, when they equate Democrats with “radical Marxists” … Ooofah!
The Democratic Party wouldn’t be able to see “radical Marxism” if you pointed them in the right direction and gave them access to the Hubble telescope.
Yes….and? YOu equate these Oath Keeper ass holes to Trump….soooooooo
Col., you got your answer and it is not pretty.
Yes, I did.As expected.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/evs-popular-gas-cars-century-ago-couldnt-avoid-big-problem/
Interesting, had no idea we had EV ‘s a long time ago.
There are even older non-gasoline options, ya know…
Yes…horses rule!!!!!!!!
T Ray….I just saw the Twitter posts from the Twitter executives that included the conservative ” Hit List ” (the executives, themselves, called it a hit list). They blacklisted several conservative names (all listed).
I also noticed that the argument from the, now fired executives, are upset because Musk is releasing their names as well as their email address and such without being blacked out. They are now saying that Musk is perpetuating the hate by listing what THEY were doing and naming names. It also shows a direct line to three people in the White House. If this is not trying to control narrative, I do not know what it is then. AND THAT is election interference……Musk says he is about to release a ton more evidence and it will have the names and email address of everyone….nothing blacked out and no unnamed informed sources that the Dems are so proud of….unnamed whistleblowers….no anonymous sources……everyone named. Finally.
I also noticed that none of the major news outlets are publishing any of this….
Oh well………well, folks, I am off to the border for a few days. Will try to check in…..With title 42 about to expire we expect several hundred thousand to rush the border. Got to stop them the best we can.
No vetting….no covid testing….no TB tests or infectious disease testing…..nothing like that taking place……Charlies Utopia.
We did a better job when we had Ellis Island.
Yes, at least Ellis Island worked. I would be in favor of that. This is a mess down here……no vetting….nothing.
“Charlies Utopia.”
Mathius, that’s their other “go-to” … Utopia … hilarious. I wonder if the Colonel was upset when he learned how Trump ignored warning the public because he was afraid of Panic (i.e., the stock market)? 🙂
Of course I go to that. Is it not your utopia? Government sanction of free press, selective enforcement of your own government laws…..? Government everything?
Charlie’s Utopia cannot fail! It can only be failed!
Colonel, I just assume when someone from this site uses the word “utopia” they have nothing else. I never really believe they actually think that way. Please tell me you don’t actually not only buy the bullshit, but believe it as well. It smells like “radical Marxist,” etc.
In other words, you have a lot more defending to do about capitalism than I do about the fantasy Utopia of your nightmares. 🙂
MORONIC argument.
BEHOLD!
CommunismCapitalism!MORONIC X 2
What is wrong with you? Did you fall and hit your head this weekend?
Imagine providing images that don’t glorify the evils of capitalism? How dare you! 🙂
I defy you to find a smarter dog.
Lassie ain’t got nothin’ on me!
🙂 BINGO. Only a moron could believe otherwise. 🙂
If the employer paid for it, it wasn’t yours in the first place. You are free to buy your own policy and thus be independent of the employer.
Why should there be a policy? We’re the wealthiest country in the world, and the only civilized country that doesn’t provide free healthcare … and we’re more expensive than the others and don’t provide better healthcare. Why do we need a middleman outside of the middleman “earning” profit? Come on, guys, tell me about my Utopia again. Just remember before you tell me how bad universal healthcare is … all those other countries that have also have billionaires and haven’t fallen off the face of the world yet. So, what’s our excuse?
Typical, you want someone else to pay.
Wait… weird.. that wasn’t what I wanted to post… trying again….
Typical response from a defender of capitalism. As long as you got yours, fuck the rest of society. First we’ll keep people in bondage for a few hundred years, then we’ll wait another 100 years before we let them vote, then we’ll red line neighborhoods for them to live in and count on the systemic racism of an empire to justify their disadvantages … and then income inequality will get so great, we’ll shrink the middle class, add to those in poverty, while the wealthiest further rig the system so things will only get worse. Hell, we’ll even demand women can’t get abortions and then ignore the kids forced into the world in poverty.
Long as you got yours … which I’m sure was all YOUR doing and had nothing to do with anyone else, because as we all know, those who “succeed” in America did it on their own (whether they inherited their wealth or not). 🙂
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/about-to-break-newsom-says-feds-are-overwhelming-california-with-immigrants/
The obvious, he finally can’t ignore the obvious.
Hi from the border……I have decided to take up Charlie’s statement about free healthcare in other civilized countries. Let’s start with Canada….
The Canadian Institute for Health Information provides information on Canada vs US health care statistics. Healthcare for Canadians costs $7,000 per person as of 2019. In the United States, healthcare costs $10,000 per person according to CNBC.
Canadian healthcare does not cover eye, dental nor cosmetic services. Private insurance is available for that. So, hardly free.
Next up……England.
Colonel,
Taking this opportunity to request FIRST-HAND photos of the scene.
I want pictures that you, personally, took with your own camera.
I don’t want to see drips and drabs, I want to see 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓒𝓪𝓻𝓪𝓿𝓪𝓷. I want to see the rampaging hoards of cantaloupe-calved cartel members. Show me tent cities in the desert and little old ladies fearing for their lives as they are accosted by Guatemalan hooligans in the streets.
Not from Fox, not from InfoWars, not from Red State. From you.
Wouldn’t they be on the other side of the border?
If they’re on the other side of the border, then why are they a problem? That’s where they’re supposed to be, isn’t it?
Good lord man. Are you trying to be deliberately ignorant? What is the game you are playing?
Just last night on PBS News and entire segment on the problem. And of course a Democrat from El Paso making the argument that they need billions of more dollars for humanitarian care. Also claiming that enforcement isn’t the answer.
CNN, same coverage.
Both with many photos and video of the crowds assembling to get in. This morning a wire fences suddenly appears on the border in El Paso.
But you will only believe photos produced by the Colonel?
I trust two news sources implicitly: The colonel’s first-hand photographs and the cryptic symbolism of my dreams.
I thank you for that….see what I can do for you.
JAC……..i do not have access to the types of pics that the drones take but I think over the next week I can manage some first hand pics.
They are on the other side, Anita. Waiting,
You need to be more specific and here is why….you need to understand my role. I am in charge of the military aspect of things in logistics and manpower assignments. My border issues extend from the city limits of Del Rio to the village limits of Presidio. That is to say, I coordinate with all the ranchers in, what we call, the wilderness. The bush. We patrol the river from Del Rio northwestward to the dam of the lake. Then northwestward from the narrows at the north west end of the lake through Big Bend to Presidio. In that area, we do not have the problem that El Paso has nor Eagle Pass….my problems deal mainly with drugs, guns, and the mules that cross the ranchers lands. I deal with the problems the ranchers have assigning the military to help them patrol their respective lands freeing the civilian authority to stay in and around the only large city close by and that is Del Rio.
At the lake, the Texas Department of Public Safety has the lake patrol responsibility. The US border patrol no longer has authority in the remote areas. They have been pulled to do administrative work. That is why the military is there.
I can probably go into Del Rio proper but since that last tent city debacle we do not have the same problems that Eagle Pass has or El Paso has to endure. The river is also deeper and faster here….not many trying to cross the river. They try to cross the bridge here but Del Rio’s democrat mayor is enforcing Federal immigration rules.
However, I am in on the briefings….I have been told that there are approximately 35,000 in tent cities in Acuna waiting for the repeal of Title 42. But the bridges and crossings in Del Rio proper are not in my jurisdiction. Now, grab a map, and look at the area from Del Rio to the lake dam, then from the narrows of the lake on the Northwest end on up to Presidio. You will see the area that I have.
Now, I do not mind taking some pics but the pics it sounds like you want pertain to the thousands crossing down stream from me. I take it that you DO NOT believe the pics that are out there now….why would you believe my pics? I take it that you do not believe that 8,000 per day are crossing and being shipped via government paid transportation.
But,I bet I can saunter into Del Rio for some pics….you want to see some lines of illegals?
What I cannot post, are our border locations, the equipment assigned, the technology at our disposal nor the faces of the military, but you are not interested in that anyway.
I take it that there are stock photos, reused photos, misattributed photos… too many people with too many agendas. Too many close-crops and lost context.
I see a photo of kids in cages and am told “see how evil Trump is” only to find it was an Obama era photo. I see a mass of people crossing a river only to find it’s from an internal conflict in Argentina. I see a tent city only to find that it’s unrelated to the border. And so it goes.
If I am to take seriously the assertion that millions of illegal immigrants are crossing the border in droves… I need to see it with my own eyes. And since my own eyes are up here, yours will have to do.
I was to see trustworthy evidence that incontrovertibly shows mass-illegal immigration. I leave it to you to know best what does that.
The hell I’m not.
But, yes, it’s not what I’m asking for.
Understand completely…..will see what I can do….
Thanking you for your understanding of security on the other….we get shot at enough…don’t need to help them.
Just to be clear… I understand there IS illegal immigration. Only an idiot would deny that or pretend the border is “fully secure” or some such.
The question is one of scale.
The drumbeat on the right is of massive waves of hundreds of thousands of immigrants, adding up to 7-8 figures over the last few years alone. That these waves of gand-riddled, drug-muling hooligans and both violent and (outside of your turf) allowed free travel. Or something on that order. THAT is what I’m looking for evidence of.
Gov. Newsom has finally caved and said the wave is too much. Of course he has done everything he can to fund the flow.
You remind me of teh story of St. Thomas who just had to see the holes in the hands and feet of Jesus and the spear wound in his side. God, do yourself a favor and watch FOX for a few days. that’s not last year or last month nor is it Argentina or the Bataan death march/. That is TODAY.
If the much loved but incomprehensible Mayor of NYC and the governor of California and Mayor of El Paso, all democrats finally have started to see a pattern, why can’t you? You cannot “see” gravity either so I guess you do not believe in it.
I see gravity every time it drips on my tie. So are ties gravity catchers?
That Jesus dude was pretty groovy, but “blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed” is crap.
Doubting Thomas should be held up as virtuous, not condemned. I always felt he got a bad rap.
The socialist jesus was a decent guy (not god) … beatitudes rock … and let’s face it, if any Jesus (socialist or the one who designed Monopoly) was around today, the GOP would reject him like he was a snowflake Marx. 🙂
They worship Republican Jesus.
If they ever met Jesus of Nazareth, they’d crucify him again, and then run articles about how a dangerous woke radical 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓮𝓻 was attempting to ‘suffer your little children.’
So, $3,000 less expensive, no co-pays or insurance costs. And they get to negotiate pharmaceuticals (why their insulin is 10x’s cheapter than ours). Thanks for making my point, Colonel.
I made no point……you said free…not cheaper. There is a difference and you are preaching to the choir where I am concerned….I think we are too expensive as well……but you said free.
Charlie,
Have you ever played a game of Monopoly?
There’s a part of the game where the player who got lucky in the beginning no longer has to negotiate with weaker players. He has enough that all he needs to do is press his advantage. The other players, desperate for funds, are forced to sell off their meager possessions to his monopsony. Eventually, he starts choking the life out of them with ever-higher rents and decreased earnings.
This is the portion of the game that usually precedes the part where the hapless players rage-quit, overturn the board, and start bludgeoning the victor.
Anyway… no idea why I brought that up.. I’m sure it’s not relevant to anything.
You are correct. It is not relevant to anything.
I often am.
Unlike that dog who seems to be off his medication.
In your own mind.
JAC check the blackhole.
🙂 It’s perfect! Thanks!
I love monopoly……
This is why as long as you keep hugging Trump, you’re screwed. 🙂
So lets play the game per YOUR rules. MSNBC? Nothing but a rag. End of discussion.
Ok with some news… financial stuff tends toward the breathlessly hyperbolic and clickbatey… but tends to be viable. Like all corporate media, it is biased in favor of big business, so you can’t trust its coverage of strikes or labor disputes, etc. But you can – mostly – trust its other financial reporting to be, if not perfect, at least reasonably valid.
But, for political stuff, MSNBC is only sllliiiigggggghhhhhhtttttlllllyyyyy better than Fox. I’d trust it – if at all – with the greatest of caution and only really as a “jumping off” platform to do better research.
That is, of course, except for Maddow who lives on another plane of existence entirely. Watching her show is more of an… experience.
Yes, imagine reporting on actual emails written by actual people … or maybe it was Italian satellites! 🙂
They are your rules, not mine. Live by them or find stronger moral footing.
You defend the indefensible and suggest I need to find stronger moral footing?
“Moral footing” … hmmm, like Trump’s? Like the 34 GOP members who made suggestions on how to overthrow the election? Sometimes you’re almost as absurd as SK. 🙂
Nice STRAWMAN. But I shouldn’t be surprised. It is your modus operandi.
Starmen not withstanding, curious on your take about whatshername sayings that if she and Bannon had organized it, they would have won and been armed.
I mean… she is a loudmouth idiot, but she’s still an elected congresswoman…
I can’t wait to hear his “moral authority” response. 🙂
Mathius
I think she made a sarcastic, i.e., snarky, remark. I got the joke from the first coverage, without any explanation from her or anyone. It was obvious it was a sarcastic joke.
I don’t know if it was her intention but she sure jerked the chain on the pear clutching crowd. Are you now part of this crowd?
I would be upset with her commentary if not for the fact that all decorum and proper behavior by Congress disappeared a long time ago. So I am not sympathetic to a double standard based on her being a Republican or Trump supporter.
“I got the joke from the first coverage, without any explanation from her or anyone. It was obvious it was a sarcastic joke.”
Isn’t that exactly what every defender of Trump said every time he allegedly “joked” about something (like injecting disinfectant to rid Covid)? 🙂
Oh… I agree.
I just wonder.. when does a joke, spoken from a position of authority and power, start to veer into stochastic terrorism..?
When does rhetoric like this – even nominally in jest – start to accumulate into a tacit endorsement of violence.
I ask this in a more general sense.. not just this idiot with this quip.. but taken holistically… is there a problem there?
Repeat after me: two wrongs do not make a right.
Mathius
Those are all good questions. Note that they only exist because of that ugly thing called freedom. It is a dangerous thing when we start crucifying people based on speech alone, especially when that speech is not clearly inciteful.
I am not convinced that people calling for violence should be illegal. I do think that depending on the circumstances it might call for big time shunning and public ridicule.
As to the question of “when” perhaps that is when it creates a “clear and present danger.” When people start actually “acting”. Trying to use speech itself as a threat leads to things like the “hate laws” and examples like the Norwegian Lesbian now facing prison time for simply stating that men cannot be women, that a trans woman cannot be a lesbian. This statement apparently violates the Hate Speech Laws of Norway.
You may recall, I have stated my opinion that it is one of the great ironies of history that a country born of violent revolution, and the human right to overthrow a govt deemed oppressive, has passed laws making such acts illegal. That same country now has “hate laws” and is trying to create laws against “hate speech.”
As for the two wrongs, you are correct but that is not what I was doing. I don’t believe, anyway. I am saying I am not going to hold one jackass to a different standards than the other jackasses. I find them all to be pretty much repugnant. I have made that pretty clear over the years. I am not saying two make it right, I am saying I will not be drug into some forced critic of one over the others just to satisfy someone else’s desire to attack one party over another. But your point is taken and I will try to guard against doing as you say.
Never heard of the Italian conspiracy theory. Sorry.
While Americans are arguing each day over the sexual deviants teaching in schools and the attack on language, including the growth of a “phobia industry”, this is happening in real time:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/12/14/china-threats-u-s-beijing-00071017
In addition, I heard this week that China is moving to Crypto currency. Their money will be 100% digital pretty soon. No big deal many say. But the rest of the story is that the Govt. will simply deposit some magical amount of money in every person’s Federal Account each month. Hurray say the Charlies of the world. A universal guaranteed income, just perfect. What could go wrong? Well the rest of that story is that the Govt. will fore that digital money to be spent on a monthly or quarterly basis. FORCED spending and NO SAVINGS.
China’s economy will BOOM, if you use the metrics of the Modern Monetary Theorists.
IN other news, the FED and TREASURY are moving ahead with a test of all digital money this year. Despite over 70% of Americans and most of Congress yelling Hell No at the top of their lungs. It seems the Elite don’t think what we think matters any more. Wonder how that could be possible since elections are free and fair, and we could just vote the jackasses out? The don’t seem to be afraid. I wonder why?
You bury the lede.
With China owning and controlling a digital currency, they now have full visibility into virtually every corner of the economy… and control.
They know who spends what and how. And they know if you’re doing things that are “socially unacceptable.”
They can simply “turn off” any business or industry or bankrupt any person at any time with the press of a button. If they want people to stop using VPNs, all they have to do is simply stop allowing payments to [VPN provider].
Imagine trying to organize a revolution or an unsanctioned political action when the government has full visibility into every dollar you spend.
Mathius
I assumed everyone knew that part. It was this new twist of “mandatory spending” that had not been discussed before. It gives the Govt the ability to drive a GDP that is not real, but will be used as an economic weapon.
Maybe.
I need to mull it a bit more… I’d also have to know a bit more how it works once you start factoring in imports.. that much demand with “money to burn” is going to demand imports which the government isn’t going to want.. so do you wreck the foreign currency reserves? Price controls? Hyperinflation?
Done perfectly I suppose – theoretically – it could do as you say but, well… show me a government economist that competent…..
Mathius
Money to burn creates inflation, which is devaluation of money.
Devalued money, relative to others, increase EXPORTS.
I expect the Chairman for Life thinks he can create Chinese supply if he can force increased demand. But I think the real goal here is to not just cause people to buy stuff, creating a hyper active economy (like the USA) but to do it in a way that the Govt. gets to direct the flow. It also gets to collect on the action it creates and use its funds to export power to other places. Who do you think is going to own all that stuff China needs to import?
MAGA LOVES SOCIALISM … “WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNIT!” (MAGA guy) 🙂
In order to save
rich people’s yacht money𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓔𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓸𝓶𝔂, we’ll have to take the working class out to the woodshed and put a bullet in their heads.Nothing personal, you see.. it’s just that, well, for 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓔𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓸𝓶𝔂 to be strong, there needs to be more unemployment. Too many people with too much money demand too many things and that makes things more expensive. When the same dollar buys less stuff, that’s called inflation. To combat this, the key is to “cool down” the economy. The way the Fed does this is by [redacted lengthy diatribe] [wow.. that was a hell of a screed] [I mean.. how is it still going on?] [ok, I think we’re getting to the end of it…] and that causes interests to rise. Since saving money is now more attractive (due to higher interest), people save instead of spend, and this slows down the economy. It also means that borrowing is more expensive – but I’m sure that’s not relevant to anything either.
Now, Charlie might say something foolish like “when there’s no slack in the labor market, labor can be more assertive and demand higher wages, which is bad for corporate profits. To preserve margins (so that the owners of capital can continue to profit off that capital), the businesses simply respond by raising prices, and thus inflation which is why you simultaneously see growth in profits trending right in line with inflation. So, rather than clamping down on corporate profiteering and price gouging, the government (via the Fed), takes a blunt axe to the lower and middle class who, coincidentally, can no longer afford to borrow just when they need it most.” But of course, we all understand that he’s a Plutonian and don’t credit that kind of absurdist thinking.
Now, I, on the other hand, a trained economist, with an MBA, and 15-ish years of experience in market-focused high finance, would never opine something so silly. Rather, I would simply offer this thought.
Short version. The Govt plays God with the economy. It crashes with combinations of excessive inflation, recessions, depressions, stagflation, etc. It other word, doing damage to working Americans. Then Charlie and his ilk come along and blame Capitalism. They throw a fit and change the economic structure to Fascism or some other variety of Socialism. Giving Govt even more power over the economy. Eventually, everyone’s quality of life declines and massive numbers starve.
I mean… yes… to a degree. But let’s not pretend that wholly unbridled, unregulated economics is any picnic either…
As you may have detected above, I have my issues with the Fed.. but that doesn’t mean that, in a monetary system like ours that a free-for-all wouldn’t be a disaster. As so often is the case, it’s a question of moderation and goals.
To that end, I would ask you this: what do you believe the ACTUAL, UNDERLYING GOAL(s) of the Fed is/are?
“Capitalism? More like CRAP-italism, am I right??!” – Charlie, probably
As for an “unbridled” economy, how would we know. We haven’t had one for centuries and none since the industrial revolution. At least none I am aware of.
What does a free for all look like and how does that relate to the Fed?
There is no useful purpose for having a Fed Bank. The US Treasury would do just fine. The problem as always is lack of honorable people. But as with all things, building another institution of men to avoid the pitfalls of having men in charge because they are not honorable is a fallacy of untold proportions.
Has it occurred to anyone else here that while the DOJ and various State AG’s have been trying to prosecute and jail Mr. Trump for decades that it only took the DOJ a couple of weeks to conclude that the bitcoin fraud guy need to be arrested. Per them, they have evidence of years long fraud, dating to the beginning of his great venture.
Kind of funny how just when he was supposed to testify to Congress he was arrested. Which makes testimony impossible.
And they wonder why so many of We the People have lost faith in our Government.
Bankman made two fatal errors that Trump has never made.
1. He was far more personally, directly, and objectively involved with [crime]. Trump, for all his idiocy, has always been careful to speak like a mobster in coded plausibly deniable language and to use cutouts for his various actions. It’s why his lawyers and CFO and accountants keep going to jail – he places them in positions to be his “fall guys” rather than letting it reach the top. When someone says “Trump did [thing],” he always can fall back on some version of “oh, well, no, you see, that was the CFO, not meeeee.” And while this may be obvious bullshit, it’s legally colorable and makes him incredibly difficult to pin down. Bankman, on the other hand personally ran amd personally oversaw the business, including day-to-day operations. More to the point, he personally engaged in objectively fraudulent activities including lying to investors. Trump wouldn’t do that – he’d have an offline “mobster language” conversation with a senior cut-out and, if it went bad, Trump would throw the guy under the bus.
2. Bankman committed the cardinal sin of fucking with the yacht money. Fleece the poor all you want, Uncle Sam isn’t really going to get into high gear over it. But bilk rich and powerful people…? Noooooooo. Bankman pissed off a lot of powerful people who all made quiet calls to other powerful people. And, from there, he was fucked. Trump’s criminality tends toward the “victimless” (eg tax fraud) or screwing the little guy (eg, illegal tenant practices / sketchy campaign drifting / etc). And, sure, Trump businesses have declared bankruptcy several times, but shitty business (not overtly fraudulent) is a different animal.
———-
For what it’s worth, I’ve also long contended that Trump (and his enablers) have always walked as close as humanly possible to the edge of the legal gray-zone. Maximally lawful-but-awful and dubiously-legal has been his sweetspot for his entire professional and political careers. The fact is that anyone UHNW or elite-political person or major business has committed boat loads of crimes just because there are so many laws and they are so damned complicated… but to pin down any of these people on a technicality, charge them, defeat their army of $900/hr lawyers, and then get it to stick personally….? Ehhhhhhh
Mathius
Pretty much agree with it all. I do think Bankman also created and embarrassment to the politicos to whom he gave millions. That is right up there with stealing from the rich.
I think your last paragraph re; Trump and those like him, is fair and accurate. But as you say, all those lawyers won’t protect them if they violate the golden rule of thou shalt not steal from nor embarrass anyone in The Club.
Trump is – increasingly – having trouble finding lawyers.
I know, personally from first-hand information, at two major high-end law firms – that Trump has been blacklisted by internal policy. At least one, explicitly, for “reputational risk.”
I don’t know if this is in the news or “public” per se, so I won’t name firms. But if these two did this, I would be shocked to find that it’s not widespread amongst the rest of the “white shoe” firms.
And that’s before considering his tendency to stiff people on bills.
So, forcing Trump to shift down to lower-tier lawyers does come with a cost to him. We have seen several times where he wields thoroughly incompetent or inadequate counsel. It may yet come back to bite him.
But he is 76 in questionable health and loves to play the stall tactic game. Methinks he’ll likely die before ever seeing the inside of a cell.
Mathius
I did read something about his lawyer problem a few weeks back. The JV’s on the JV’s for a reason. That is true.
Question: Do you think Mr. Trump would have the same problems today if he had run and been elected as a Democrat? Which of course he was, until he wasn’t.
I don’t know about him committing actual crimes that deserve jail. Accusations and public character assassinations are abundant, but as you say he is not often directly tied to any wrong doing. But I do know this. If charged he cannot get a fair trial, pretty much anywhere in the country. Those in the blue states will hang him for being Trump. Those in the red states will find him innocent, for the same reason.
I think he’d have to be selling a different set of fears and “solutions” to appeal to the left – not just change R to D.
I think he switched because he knew the left wouldn’t elect him.
Like Musk, I think he said “I must find out where the crowd is going, so that I can lead them.”
His brand of puffery showmanship, bomb-throwing contrarianism, punching-down, etc, does not appeal to the left – or at least not as well. I also think the left is MUCH less enamored of the mystique of the “successful businessman” as political messiah. You’d need a younger demagogic version of Bernie Sanders to do that…. maybe AOC once she gets another decade of experience under her?
I think.
Anyway, if he were on the left, the D’s (party, as distinct from D’s voters) would be defending him and contorting themselves into knots to excuse his firehose of bullshit. The right would stand on their moral high horse, pretended to be holier than thou, turn everything (whether big or small) into a big deal, and attempt to tie everything the D’s ever did or every will do again, as well as every politician they ever run to Trump’s toxicity like the world’s worst albatrose.
Basically, if you did flip the teams, there are some “flavor” differences, but not really any “substance” differences in the parties.
As for the voters….? Well, I think that the left is quicker to let go of shit-heads once they’re no longer needed. Both Clintons, for example. There are no hardcore H. Clinton groupies hanging around begging her to run again and trying to sack the capital on her behalf. I think both sides will back “their guy” when he’s necessary and useful.. but once he’s not…?
Yeah. It only took the D’s from 1999 to 2016 to finally give up on the Clintons.
Is that what you think is “quicker to let go”???
Mathius
From an article at The Hill this morning.
“El Paso experienced an influx of more than 50,000 migrants in October alone, the most recent month for which data is available. ”
I agree, one should not believe any photo or video without validation. I have noted that many of the Web news sites are now including complete captions on photos stating where and when they were taken. Not all of them, but some for sure. Maybe they understand they have a reputation problem.
Also, on PBS the other night it was stated that close to 3 million “immigrants” have entered the USA since Biden took office.
So, two things:
1. I’m not denying the “3 million” kind of data point, I just want corroboration from someone I trust. And I’m not allowed in Texas to check for myself due to Point #2, below.
2. Just a reminder that I am – unlike any “mainstream” liberal – a true “Open Borders” advocate. My only limitation on that is a quick background check to rule out known gang-affiliates / criminals / etc, and a search for contraband. So, aside from the lack of those constraints, I have no problem if 30 million immigrants come here.
Curious about some thoughts on this kind of thing from anyone who is having heart palpitations over drag events.
I’m curious why child “beauty pageants” are somehow deemed acceptable while the other is pearl-clutchingly denounced as child-sexualizing and 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰.
Any takers?
Similar question: is taking your child to Hooters better or worse than Drag Queen Story Hour?
Porque?
Neither are appropriate.
Then why are there a million up-in-arms howling-to-the-moon conservatives decrying “WoN’t SoMeBoDy ThInK oF tHe ChIlDrEn??!1?!” over drag, but not barely a goddamned peep about child beauty pageants?
Maybe it is as simple as we all have kids in schools, but not all of us have kids in pageants. More over, how many people even know these things still exist?
I suspect a reasonably-true answer is a variation of “whose ox is getting gored.” Pearl-clutching and demonizing those people” is always better than attacking that some hardcore knot on your own side might defend as Tradition!
I suspect the true answer is “because we have been inured to the latter, but not the former.”
I suspect the true-r answer is “because that’s what The Powers That Be want you arguing about.”
Because one is done by private organizations or businesses and the other is being done in public funded buildings and by public funded employees while keeping the agenda from the parents.
Strange list of equivalencies you are trying to build this morning.
Short story: Never took our kids to a Hooters. Never went myself either. But when daughter turned 21 that is where she wanted to have her birthday dinner. Lil JAC, who was under 21 at the time, reacted to it like any well learned young man. No staring or comments. Just eating, drinking and having fun.
Why should this day be different than all other days?
I will attempt it. First, and probably foremost, it is the parents who put the kids in these pageants. Not a teacher or some adult outside the family.
Second, while this is “sexualizing” children, in my opinion, it is nothing close to “grooming.” As opposed to the actual grooming associated with many of the sexual “programs and activities” being pushed by some schools, per the experts I have linked here before.
Third, the pageants are consistent with the child’s sex, and something considered within the norm of society. As opposed to the drag queen shows which is putting forth the odd and not norm.
Finally, I think these pageants are stupid and unhealthy for young girls. But the reasons for them being wrong are entirely different than the reasons drag shows and other such idiocy are wrong in classrooms.
1. I don’t (necessarily) agree that drag queen story hour) does not belong in the classroom. It’s weird as hell, if nothing else. But Matt Walsh just the other day said that… wait.. ah…
(Preemptively: Matt Walsh is a daily Wire columnist whose youtube channel has 1.9 million subscribers. He is not the biggest name in politics, but he’s not a “nobody” either.”)
So, anyway, it seems that there are many who think that this issue extends well beyond the inappropriateness of it being in a classroom into the “arrest everyone involved!!!1!” realm.
2.
Agreed.
I’m discussing drag shows / the existence of people in drag.. assuming the parent consents, is allowing your child to attend drag queen story hour or some similar event (read: not a drag-queen strip show, eg) count as 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰 in your mind?
3.
Nothing personal to you, JAC, but fuck this whole argument.
4.
I don’t know… a lot of the 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰 arguments against drag seem to center around the idea that it somehow sexualizes children or gets children accustom to the idea of being sexualized. It seems to me that having a bikini contest featuring 5 year olds is a LOT more in line with that argument.
————
MY broader point is this: if one is so pearl-clutchingly terrified of the notion that children are being 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓮𝓭 via exposure to men wearing dresses and makeup, then they should be rabidly up in arms about children being put in skimpy costumes, makeup, and told to strut and pose, etc.
It seems TO ME that there is some kind of double standard at work here.
————
(Here is where I remind you that Trump openly bragged about repeatedly barging into the dressing room of underage contestants while in charge of the Ms. America contest. A bit irrelevantly, but worth mentioning.)
Mathius
1. I know of Matt Walsh. As with many of these types he says something good every now and then. But this is NOT one of them. I see him as the conservative’s version of a “radical”, almost “militant” at times. While I think some teachers should lose their jobs over some of the things I have seen/heard them say/do, they should not be put in jail. Except those that are clearly engaged in “grooming.” I have a special place in the pig pen for those folks.
2. If a parent takes them, then so be it. As with your story about that book your daughter read. Same rules apply.
3. I would expect nothing less from you, on this particular point. But it does play a part in the societal reactions.
4. Here I think you are missing a very important part of the “drag shows”. These are not being raised as concerns in a vacuum. They are being seen in conjunction with a lot of other things going on in classrooms and schools in general. By extracting them from the bigger picture you make them look unimportant or that critics are just over blown. But the drag shows are indicative of a bigger problem. One you recognized when sharing your story and views on that book your daughter read.
The other part of this, which is in my mind fueling the anger from parents even more, is the absolute arrogance and disrespect displayed by school boards, supervisors and teachers towards parents when they do raise concerns. I saw this when dealing with Lil JAC’s issues in school. But it has gone beyond that now. When teachers start claiming that your kid is actually Theirs, well we have a problem.
Now, the only drag show performances I have ever seen are from films. Movies as well as home videos taken by those attending. I don’t think the “performances” at drag shows, that I have seen, are appropriate for children. I think the same of burlesque shows.
Having spent time in the West Village, I can inform you that there are drag shows and Drag Shows and DRAG SHOWS and DRAG SHOWS and 𝓓𝓡𝓐𝓖 𝓢𝓗𝓞𝓦𝓢.
These are not the same things. There are bunches and story hours which, but for the hosts’ clothing being of the ‘wrong’ gender (and the makeup being overdone) is wholly innocuous. Then there are… other things… things that will haunt my nightmares until long after the heat death of the universe.
Insofar as we are talking about the former, while, again, I’m not sure these really “belong” in a school, they really are harmless. You get exposed to a lot of things in school – learning about Greek mythology didn’t turn me into a pagan.
Insofar as we are talking about the latter, well… arrests might be in order.
Frankly, I find Clowns more discomforting that some guy wearing a dress. Clowns should be banned from all schools and city parks. Hell, the president of our HS SR. Class wore a fairy outfit to Sr. Dress Up day. His wand was a toilet brush. The guy was heavy weight state wrestling champ. He wore the same outfit to our 20 year reunion dinner.
Do be clear, since I brain-farted right past it, #3 above is exactly what I think the entire crux of the issue and all the hypocrisy centers around.
To whit: the issue about drag is not and has never been about 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰 . It is that those people are deviants and, even though there’s nothing <i.ACTUALLY wrong with their deviance*. It’s about enforcing the norm and using any tool at their disposal to stop people who violate those norms (or, worse, expose little Timmy to the notion that the norm can be violated.. because, then, little Timmy might – horrors of horrors – become a deviant himself!).
————-
* this falls under the header of the “kind of weird, but not actually a sin” kind of logic…. like wearing socks in the shower… it’s not “wrong” in any strict sense it’s just a deviation from accepted behavior. Some people would argue “if it doesn’t hurt anyone, then it’s none of my business” while others would argue “tHeRe OuGhT tO bE a LaW!!!1!!”
Mathius
On this one I will respectfully disagree. I think you are assuming that, because of the grooming you underwent growing up. How is that for using a loaded phrase for a different purpose. I should get Mathius bonus points for that one.
I am not going to completely dismiss this as a factor at all. But I do not believe this is the primary concern nor the sociological/cultural factor driving the issues. I don’t think you realize the extent to which even “conservatives” have come to accept the different. What they don’t want is some teacher encouraging their kids to become different and doing so behind their backs. And in some cases, encouraging their children to get State protection for body altering surgery, again without parental involvement. And yes, there is an example of that out there.
I am sorry my friend but I think you have completely misread the issue. This is not about acceptance of different. It is not about not allowing compassion or tolerance to be taught in schools. It is about not allowing teachers to use our children as toys in their own social/sexual experiments or ideologies.
Mathius
One other note. I think you are mixing up some concepts. Part of that is misuse of some terms by the critics. Especially “sexualizing”. And yes, I have used it as well.
Grooming is not about exposing children to drag queens or any such thing. Those using this term are not referring to that activity but the totality of exposures that seem to be aimed at “encouraging” children to become more sexual and to do so in different ways. And this is being done without parent’s knowledge. When you link “grooming” criticism to a single thing like drag queens you are grossly oversimplifying.
Sexualizing is the real murky one here. I think what the complaints are about is the teaching of sexual behaviors to very young children. Encouraging them to become sexually active, and how to do it. Note again that the Florida law that dealt with this was aimed at children under grade 5. Beauty pageants are not sexualizing in this context. We oldsters from the Women’s Lib era would use the word “objectify” instead. But there is no doubt there is a sexualization component. But again this is not how “sexualizing” is being used in this issue of classrooms. So in a way you are comparing apples and oranges. Or maybe oranges and tangerines. Both citrus but different fruits.
Let’s – you and I – define 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰, so that we can speak the same language.
Would you accept this definition: “The practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity. Particularly, and specifically, a child/minor to be receptive to the inappropriate sexual advances of an older person.”
No, 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰 is the practice of brushing and cleaning the coat of an animal such as a dog.
I HATE 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰!
𝓖𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓮𝓻𝓼 should be bitten!
Mathius
I do not think that is how the term is being used by those criticizing the schools. Therein lies part of the communication problem.
Grooming, technically, is as you say, a process that prepares a child for sexual advances/activities by and with an adult. They are being “groomed” for exploitation by a pedophile.
Grooming as used by the critics means the teaching and/or encouragement of children to become sexually active, to try different kinds of sex, to explore homosexual sex, and now to think about becoming trans gender. The reason they use grooming is there seems to be an insidious current here designed to get children to do things they might not otherwise do. Or pushing them in a certain direction when they are not really ready for such a decision. Telling a child that lesbians exist is not the same as encouraging them to become lesbianism via lessons, discussions or displays in the classroom. AGAIN, we are talking about children, not teens.
I mean let us be honest here. WHY in the hell are we teaching children age 3 to 10 anything about sex? When they told us we needed sex education in schools the purpose was two fold. Reduce STD’s and teen pregnancy. REDUCE these two things by teaching about the consequences of sex and especially unprotected sex. When and why did this evolve into you should try all kinds of sex and here is how you do it. Here is how you will get more pleasure from it. Here are all the tools and toys you can use, etc. etc. WHY are these appropriate lessons in a public school CLASSROOM?
“Grooming as used by the critics”
The critics are self-righteous assholes. What the hell do they know about anything sex related (outside of intercourse, except by the lord and savior, he did it without actually having intercourse, or so they TEACH us in those wonderful schools). 🙂
It’s like CRT, Woke, and Communism… 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰 means precisely whatever “critics” want it to mean at the moment they say it.
It has no empirical definition, no matter how JAC struggles to define it, beyond “I am outraged by [thing], therefore, I call it 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰.
The word has the benefit of sounding similar to another word: “grooming.” You see, grooming means something – and that something is terrible. So by linking 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰 with grooming, they feel like this legitimizes their outrage. It leverages the revulsion we feel for grooming and attempts to tie this to their ad hoc usage of 𝓰𝓻𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓰.
————
It’d be as though you renamed “putting the toilet paper roll on the wrong way” as “pedophilia.” I mean – it’s objectively not pedophilia, but hey, you’re just making shit up, so that’s what you’re going to call it. And anyone who disagrees with you? Guess what? That’s also pedophilia.
Then you go around calling your coworkers pedophiles. Badger them loudly enough, long enough, and forcefully enough, and you just might be able to link the two in people’s minds.
More importantly, they’ll probably stop doing the thing you don’t like – even though there isn’t a goddamned thing wrong with it! – simply because they want you to stop accusing them of pedophilia.
Sounds just like how the left changes and uses language. Just playing by your rules.
Mathius
You were doing so well today and now you resorted to BS snark. Just to keep your barking seal happy.
First, I am not struggling to define it. I know what the technical meaning is.
Second, I explained how it is currently being used by critics of the schools and it does not mean just any old thing they don’t like.
I have also seen, and have posted here, EXPERT testimony that much of the stuff going on in schools qualifies as “GROOMING”. That is the stuff that parents were raising hell about. So you can take that sanctimonious attitude and stick it where the sun don’t shine.
You have resorted to the standard leftwing tactic. And that is shameful.
If you can’t win the argument just build up some sarcastic sophistry and claim it is a real depiction of the thing you cannot really defend.
Shame on you, Sir.
JAC, you’ve known me for more than a decade.
How you haven’t figured this out by now is baffling to me, but let me try to spell it out for you as simply as possible: I am an animate mass of sarcasm given form.
If you took away my sarcasm, I would crumble into dust, because there is nothing else left.
Hope this clears things up for you.
This is just so funny. As I said before, I am not so sure Mr. Trump actually wants to be POTUS again.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/12/15/donald-trump-drops-his-major-announcement-and-i-cant-stop-laughing-n674044
NOTE: The author named Bonchi shows his ignorance of economics in his summary statement. Claiming NFT’s are a scam and have no value. Just like some here who make the same claims about BitCoin. The irony is that when someone claiming to be a conservative states something has no value, due to lack of concrete substance, they in essence pick up the Sword of Marx and swing it around wildly. Not knowing what they do.
I mean… money is simply an agreement that [thing] has [value]. It’s allllll made up – even gold.
But setting aside the more technical definitions, NFTs ARE a scam in practical terms. They can be “minted” ad nauseam, you don’t “own” anything, they aren’t really “spendable,” etc.
It’s as though you go to the Louvre and run into a janitor. He offers to sell you the Mona Lisa… well, no, actually, he can’t do that… but he has a picture of it hanging in the broom closet and he’ll sell you the right to have your name tacked up next to it. Anyone who wants to tack up their name there has to buy that right from you. And, yes, the Janitor has a second picture of the Mona Lisa with someone else’s name tacked up next to it, but that’s from a slightly different angle. Meanwhile, the curator has his own closet with an identical picture and someone else’s name. An ex employee had a closet, but he left and now no one can buy or sell their slots, so the ‘owners’ are all just going to sit there until it crumbles into dust. All the while, the French Government is the only one that actually, you know, owns the Mona Lisa – it can move it, store it, sell it, or even destroy it… and you would have zero say about any of that.
Just like money. They are as good as the backing behind them.
It is my understanding that the NFT’s of art are the actual pictures. Not photographs of the pictures. So the Mono Lisa is hanging in a closet and the janitor has a list of those who can come see it.
NFT’s can be exchanged, and have been exchanged. But you must find someone who wants that particular NFT. So jut like real money, only more rare. But unlike Fiat Money, it cannot be used to pay your taxes.
But I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that if people start trading NFT’s the IRS will want a tax on the Capital Gain of these “scams”.
No.
NFTs are of a bunch of things – they can be images or videos, etc. The NBA (?) did something a while ago where you could “own” a particular play.
But they aren’t physical photos. They aren’t even the “photo” itself. They are exactly as I describe: a ledger entry which claims your ownership of a particular photo.
Correct.
But that doesn’t make it “money” any more than it would make a potato “money.” This makes it a “good.”
And a really shitty one at that.
No bet.
Oh boy, that had to hurt.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/12/15/glenn-greenwald-takes-relentlessly-hateful-and-dishonest-alejandra-caraballo-apart-in-savage-thread/
Look, I’m not familiar with twitchy, so I won’t opine on the accuracy or legitimacy of the reporting.
What I will say is that that style of posting tweets and replies with commentary interspersed gave me eye cancer.
Yes. I limit my exposure to that one about once a month. That is one of my criticisms about Red State. They often post a Tweet, then they repeat what is in it, as if you can’t read, then they tell you what they think about it, then the post the next one. Flat out lazy journalism.
I picked this one because I had seen a video of the exchange elsewhere and wanted to see what Greenwald had to say about it.
If healthcare is a RIGHT then these nurses should be jailed for impairing the people’s RIGHT to healthcare.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/business/uk-nurses-strike-thursday-nhs-gbr-intl/index.html
Healthcare is not a RIGHT because it requires the services of other individuals and corporations to supply the technology. Those services are not sufficient to service every demand especially if the services are fee to the patient. Under these circumstances, the patient will demand Cadillac care. The net result is rationing with some bureaucrat determining who gets the care as opposed to in the free market, the rationing is done by who can afford the care.
Kari Lake, the GOP’s failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate, was mocked on Tuesday for telling a story that critics suggested sounded just like something former President Donald Trump would say.
Lake claimed on Twitter that a UPS delivery driver “just told us he is ‘devastated’ that they ‘stole another election’ and asked how he could help.”
“The Fake News may spin it… Officials behind the Sham Election may lie… But Arizonans get it,” she added. “They know our Elections are a joke.” SMILEY FACE. 🙂
Trump getting beat by DeSanctimonious … say it ain’t so! Oh, mother of mercy, is this be the end of shit-for-brains?
Makes sense if it is … substitute one lunatic for another. 🙂
We had a sit down today about media and who will get access next week. There is not much we can do about media on public streets but we can keep them off the river. We are going to allow the drone flights…..but it was a unanimous decision to keep camera crews and vehicles behind and in designated areas and no imbedding. This will not affect me because we already do not let media into our areas but it is going to be interesting at the crossing points which are public.
I think I’ll give the poor batards some cover fire while they cross yer imaginary lines.
Y’AAAAaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggg!!!
If I see any poor bastards….I’ll send them your way.
[Narrator: But the colonel did not see any poor bastards because his position was obliterated by a 9-pounder orbital strike.]
You lunatics order your Digital Cards yet? Just $99.00 … Orange Man’s latest grift. 🙂
I am not sure if this will work:
Click to access 200610.pdf
Figures 4 & 5 show the interior of a 747 undergoing hydrogen peroxide vapor decontamination. There are two white instruments shown. These instruments measure the H2O2 levels during the decontamination process. My name is on the patent for the measurement technique and I lead the design team that designed the instrument.
That’s really cool!
Hope you made a boat load from this!
Did any of you buy Trump’s NFT cards?
Tell the truth, now… Anita..?
Maybe Santa will bring me some to add to my other gear. My Trump hippie shirt and MAGA hat (which I don’t dare wear to work) and my gold Trump $2 bill. All gifts because I’m too cheap.
oops… I forgot my two Trump flags, also gifts. 🙂
In the immortal words of John Wayne playing Ethan Edwards in the “Searchers”,. “that cuts it!”
Jeez!
If it’s true (sold out 2 pictures), then a declaration of “stupid MF’ers” MUST be announced on the steps of Congress for all the suckers who bought one. They must be rewarded with more than being grifted (AGAIN) by St. Donald Jessica Trump … how about a gold medal ceremony since the GOP didn’t want to give one to the cops who were beaten at the Knucklehead Revolution? 🙂
Juts a quick thought. The other day it was reported a middle school teacher, a male, introduced “sex toys” to his class. A mere five years ago, the guy would have been led out in handcuffs and placed on the registry.
My, how things do change in such a short time.
Yeah, I always wonder about how Mr. Geotz hasn’t been indicted for trafficking an underage woman (or was he just boffing her)? 🙂
Heard some black gent on the radio today demanding his reparations because, quote, “The Jews get them”. Bless the internet! One can quickly find that in fact the former Nazi state does in fact pay reparations to holocaust survivors. I knew people in NYC who received checks for their destroyed families back fifty years ago. The difference being that those payments STOP with their deaths. They are not generational.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nazi-germany-holocaust-survivors-compensation-payment-home-care-rcna47862
How do I get my check?
Ol’ Great Grandpa Mathius fled Poland sometime around then, so we ought to be owed something. Then again, Grandpa Mathius came back in a tank, so he might have evened the score up a bit..
Now I think about it, anyone here know how to recover the service file for a dead grandparent? I’d love to get a look at it? I know he had some medals, but he never talked much about it.
I believe you contact the V.A..
https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records
Some records stored at the St. Louis archive were lost due to a fire, Dad’s included.
Us too. National Archives does have copies of the lost documents. They will do a search but you will have to pay a fee. Helps if you have a service number, branch of service, date of enlistment/induction and of course an idea of unit. Many states maintain records of residents who went into service. PA does for example. Many states also paid a “bonus” to residents. I got some interesting “tips” on my Mom’s brothers through “ancestry” membership including that my uncle Paul at 20 was a “plankowner” (1942) on a seagoing tug in the South Pacific that’s surprisingly still in service with the ROC Navy.
Problem is I really don’t have any of that. I’m pretty sure he was army, but not even certain of that.
Again, he just… didn’t talk much about it.
You ever read Tales of the South Pacific? Great book.
Typically you can get draft registration cards, enlistment dates, ranks, pension, tombstone information and some other info from Ancestry and other online services. Ancestry does charge about $150/yr for domestic membership. Familysearch.org is the LDS site and it is free. Lots of info there including international.
They want to charge me $70 bucks to see his file?!?
I know one of you yokels has “connections”…
Perhaps…
Would ye kindly assist?
I honestly have zero idea how to go about this…. all I have is his name and, frankly, it’s not that uncommon.
Pretty sure he was at the Bulge. Pretty sure army. Almost positive “sarcastic asshole” is going to be written somewhere in his file.
SK, you need to read The Holocaust Industry, by Norman Finkelstein (seriously). It’s a very controversial book and I think Norm regrets (maybe, not positive) giving the book that moniker, but … reparations are a HUGE part of the book and he has some very credible documented proof how “some” abused the reparations, etc. I think it’s Raul Hilberg’s book on The Destruction of the Jews, etc., that confirmed Finkelstein’s findings and said, in fact, they were conservative.
Here you go. Interesting and educational. Norm is called a self-hating Jew but it’s nonsense.
Japanese-Americans also got payments for their incarceration.
Not near enough. $ 20,000 to those who lived to 1988 but not to their children or grandchildren!
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/redress-and-reparations-japanese-american-incarceration
It couldn’t have been more than two years ago when I said that the blockchain technology might be adaptable to creating secure voting systems. Voila…
Missing from this was a better discussion of the “registration” process and how that is validated. I see weak spots where they say there are none. Namely, the business of FALSE IDENTIFICATION. So some further investigation or explanation is needed.
The irony, well outright ignorance, of those who claim to stand for inclusivity by excluding things that others want.
Funny how that whole notion of “democracy” doesn’t apply to things that offend the minority of people who can scream really loud.
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2022/12/15/woke-massachusetts-official-tells-on-herself-in-bizarre-public-dispute-over-christmas-tree-display-n674333
Mathius
Just for you:
https://www.thesmatteringnews.com/
Ok, THAT was funny…
Better if it was a beer.
But it missed….too bad. Kind of funny, since he did not have the support of several veteran’s groups but still won his election of Beto Boy…….it was a lot closer than he wanted. He has since then apologized to my veteran’s group wanting some funds now…..if you remember we pulled $250,000 from him last time….he misses us now…but, he is still on the “bad boy” list.
I’m convinced the Dems keep running Beto against him because they know he’ll lose.
They WANT Cruz in office. His mere existence drives down Red Team participation and drives up Blue Team participation which helps in every other race on those ballots. Plus, every time he says or does something shitty (like fleeing to Cancun during a power outage and blaming it on his children), it raises millions of dollars for the Blue Team and serves as a walking, talking national-advertisement for “why the Red Team sucks.”
Alinsky’s Rule # 5. Sound familiar?
Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.
Or so one would think!
Very dramatic, SK. And obsessive. Read the Finkelstein book. Curious about your reaction.
Being immersed in “The History of Judaism” right now I do not have the time but are you telling me that there was “fraud”? I am absolutely SHOCKED to hear that. Do you hear me, SHOCKED!.
I defer to my Dad, the Master Bartender, Sage and Army Sergeant. “A man will get away with what you let him get away with.”
Then again, the folks I knew at 620 W. 171 Street had the tattoos to prove it. Growing up in a half Jewish neighborhood in the 50’s and 60’s, fully half the half had those tattoos in my parents age group. Margaret Arden who lived in 6F down the hall was forcibly sterilized her husband, post war, a former lightweight champ had the nerve cut in his left arm in an “experiment”. But WTF those are only anecdotes.
“fully half the half had those tattoos” … Finkelstein would dispute that figure, anecdote or not.
Did he live in Washington Heights? Sounds suspiciously like a denier to me.
You would say that. 🙂 He lived in Mill Basin, Brooklyn. I’m surprised you never heard of him. I’d think Bill O’Reilly kept you fed on right wing horseshit. Big Bill (the pervert) was part of a big push to get Finkelstein fired from teaching. His parents were “actual” Holocaust survivors.
Do NOT have any clue what the hell you are talking about. Frauds, fakes hell yes, everywhere and for everything but Finkelstein or not, 6,000,000 names disappeared from various European telephone books between ’39 and ’45. That 500,000 or more wanted to jump on the bandwagon and gravy train should surprise no-one.
Right now we have 75 year old vets from Viet-nam who have smoked for over fifty years, eaten carloads of Twinkies all their lives claiming agent orange disability payments for diabetes. It seems that fully half of Iraq and Afghan vets who heard so much as a single shell go off claiming PTSD benefits (there is an actual reason for this which has nothing to do with the wars). If you ever traveled through North Carolina the lawyers are urging you to file for Camp Lejeune benefits. Then there is dirty water, Johnson’s Baby powder which was liberally sprinkled (and inhaled) by boy babies too, Asbestos in your plaster walls, lead paint you supposedly chewed on when you were two, Burn pits which have been a feature of EVERY war not just the recent ones and of course, race, sex, orientation, educational and medical bias!
The US, produced WC Fields and PT Barnum for a reason. We Are, Were and Always Will Be, a nation of con men. Matter of fact we have enshrined it as a requirement to cross our southern border. SANCTUARY! do you hear me, I am oppressed for ______________ (fill in the reason), SANCTUARY!
We Are, Were and Always Will Be, a nation of con men. Matter of fact we have enshrined it as a requirement to cross our southern border.
1) I agree (now I have to kill myself), except an uninformed public tends to fall for the con a lot easier (e.g., Trump supporters). Remember, he likes “the not so smart people.”
2) I don’t think there’s a con going on with the border. It’s bad news. That said, you seem proud to follow the #1 con artist in American history (at this point). Did you buy one of his NFT cards? If so, which one?
I thought it was “the poorly educated”…
Upper management of the R Tribe seems to be in TURMOIL.
I guess they never learned a thing after the Tea Party.
“I guess they never learned a thing after the Tea Party.”
Clearly, they haven’t learned a thing. From the Tea Party to Maga to Qanon to the disaster they are today … all because they bought into a con artist. 🙂
UPPER management did no such thing.
They knew what they were buying. They just thought they could control the beast… turn it to their ends… they didn’t grasp the way it would hijack them right back…
Upper management knew, of course. I’m talking about the lunatics in here. 🙂 They’d defend any and all Republicans until it’s inconvenient to do so. Now they hate Bush, I’m sure … dollars to donuts they defended him while he started 2 wars we couldn’t and never will win.
Nope. The go along-get along crew.
Isn’t that the psychotic MAGA crowd? Ignoring everything Trump says and does, they cling to his holy robes awaiting the rapture.
Well, it’s here … the MAGA-ites have devoured the GOP (see last dinosaur on Matthius’ meme). 🙂
Wow, you really work hard at being as offensive as you can be.
Alinsky’s rules!
What’s offensive about the truth? Oh, I forgot. The MAGA crowd has no clue about the truth.
SK is obsessed with Alinsky. Does he EVER sing a different song? 🙂
Obsessed, not at all but you seem to “channel” him always and everywhere. There you go again, attempting to misdirect.
I “channel” him ONLY in your mind, SK. I understand, you can’t help yourself. You’re still mourning Rockefeller. 🙂
How about an example, Joan made an F on her test. Response – You failed your test, you should study more. Response- You failed your test, you’re a stupid M Fer and so is your momma.
I’d never blame a Momma for a MAGA-ite getting grifted by The Donald. I’m sure she (the Momma) is hiding her head in shame anyway. 🙂
Alinsky’s rule 5 again! The broken record speaks again. Nothing ever new there.
Says the master of anecdotes … same bullshit over and over and over … he’s an American hero (obsessed with Mr. Alinsky and his rules) … a.k.a. a clown. 🙂
https://therightscoop.com/this-horrific-explicit-christmas-themed-all-ages-drag-show-took-place-in-texas-but-thats-about-to-change/
I’d been skipping over that article at TRS because I can only take so much of this stuff, but I read it since you brought it here. It’s taken less than a decade to morph from gay marriage to all out trans porn shows corrupting the simplest of childhood innocence in Rudolph. Talk about a plot twist! The story of Rudolph was about a shunned reindeer becoming a hero. There are no heroes in this spoof. Its adult themed and should not be allowed as entertainment for kids. The kids didn’t even know what to make of it. What would make a parent want to show their kids this kind of stuff?
Interesting that this has happened in Texas. I’ve been following the issue of drag shows in relation to the homesteading community. I keep up with that crowd on YouTube. Tractor Supply is in deep shit with homesteaders for sponsoring an event featuring a drag show in Waco, Texas. Not only for sponsoring, but actually muddying the waters in response to the fallout from the event. They tried playing dumb at first, saying they were assured the event would be family friendly. The homesteaders aren’t buying it at all and have – not called for a boycott – they’ve just flat out refused to do business with Tractor Supply any longer and aren’t ashamed to say so on their channels.
The company has a long road to hoe to come back from this. The homesteaders aren’t playin! This will be a much needed boost for the mom and pop feed stores.
I bet the combination of this Christmas drag show and the heat from homesteaders has a lot to do with Texas hurrying up a bill banning this kind of stuff, at least where kids are concerned.
“What would make a parent want to show their kids this kind of stuff?”
All the possible answers are either not understandable or sick.
I’ll never understand the fears of the right. Why would any of you care how people choose to bring their kids up? Why would try to influence public schools? Send them (your kids) to private schools where they can learn to be good capitalist pigs and walk with sticks up their asses … or teach them at home (with the same result) … who cares? I don’t get it. First it was interracial marriages that made the right insane … then abortion … then gay marriage … and so on. Why not mind your business? 🙂
That’s Ms. Capitalist Pig to you! You get upset about far less, like Trump’s mere existence, so you really have no room to talk. Take your PMS pill my man.
Anita, my Capitalist Pig love, Trump’s mere existence SHOULD BE appalling to EVERYONE. 🙂
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/sick-drag-queen-pulls-bologna-crotch-eats-feeds-backup-dancers-one-parent-suggest-like-watching-disney-video/
Like I said, their answers are not understandable. Sure mom your gonna teach her at home, like you taking her to these things isn’t already ,You teaching her. I guess the clown guy is simulating having a baby and then eating it.
Isn’t eating a baby a democrat thing as defined by Qanon?
I can’t do it V! 🙂
Hey, I understand! I only posted a second one because of the moms in the video trying to explain why it’s okay to bring their kids , their response is just……………mystifying!
Tractor Supply is in deep shit with homesteaders for sponsoring an event featuring a drag show in Waco, Texas.
Everyone has missed the implications here…….holding a show like this in Waco, (Home of the baptist), Texas
Tractor supply will go the way of the albatross……it is in trouble.
Guess who first brought daylight to the issue? Ted Nugent. A YouTube homesteader from Missouri just happened to catch Ted doing an interview on TV talking about it. That set him off enough to make a video about it, which itself started a war between two big YouTubers. THAT war got enough homesteaders fired up to make their stand. Its a mess and you’re right about Tractor Supply being in trouble. This is all very recent, like within the last three weeks.
I seem to be in jail. 😁
A little feel good story this AM.
https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2022/12/17/a-hidden-hero-n674209
Yes, it is.
The “greatest” generation for a reason.
Very nice. But there’s no way I was listening to a 28 minute speech by St. Ronald of Reagan. Talk about Alzheimers in the White House. 🙂
Huh?
Only “unproven” if you ignore the truth … and we all know the truth shall never set the MAGA crowd free. 🙂
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-disease/
Going to HIGHLY recommend a movie, “Amsterdam”.
It is overly long and a “comedy” in the weird sense as the “Grand Budapest Hotel” was but nonetheless interesting.
A mash-up of post WW 1 American Politics and mores including Smedley Butler, the Harlem Hellfighters and big business. Funny thing about it is that it does become a cautionary tale for today. If the leftists in Hollywood thought they were producing an anti-right movie they sorely missed the mark. The bad guys, Media and Big Woke Business are the same bad guys we are dealing with today. A side note is “eugenics” which if you dig (not that deeply) is making a huge comeback these days in places like Canada.
Robert DeNiro is cast as the Smedley Butler character who is offered the Presidency on a silver platter through a coup. He declines and delivers a speech that would have made Barry Goldwater proud.
My wife and I turned it off after 20 minutes. Pure garbage. 🙂
Yes, it does require a pretty good attention span to follow and a relatively good knowledge of the period.
Or being brain dead.
You said it!
To think it was worth 10 minutes, never mind 20. 🙂
I forgot you were a Barry (Psycho) Goldwater fan … makes me smile. 🙂
Still re-reading back issues of the New York Times eh?
You impress me as the classic example of a “disinformation” geek. You actually believe crap without ever bothering to research it, then pass it off as gospel. I remind you no less an authority than the late liberal TV host and journalist David Frost of TWTWTW said Goldwater had it right on Viet-nam.
I’d love your “take” on Joe Stalin and the good that he did which is unfortunately in the West overshadowed by his 20,000,000 dead minor mistakes.
“I remind you no less an authority than the late liberal TV host and journalist David Frost of TWTWTW said Goldwater had it right on Viet-nam.”
“Goldwater Calls for Drive To Finish War in Vietnam; Implies Johnson Did Not Go Far Enough in Air Attacks on Reds.”
Not far enough, eh? Do you have any idea how crazy you often sound? I doubt it, but there it is. Right, what a great war. When do we win one? Just curious. When does the vaunted U.S. Military EVER win a war it has NO BUSINESS in? Only YOU, SK, would support a lunatic like Barry Goldwater, which makes me wonder why you’re not supportive of the Dems’ warmonger, Hillary Clinton. 🙂
Oh, no! Money Laundering? Wouldn’t that be perfect? I mean, who else would buyout 2 of his comical cards but someone with dirty money? I doubt even the MAGA crowd would drop $99.00 for this moron in his various clown outfits. 🙂
Sorta like those paint drips the Biden’s sell for half a million a pop?
Which ones did you buy? come on, tell us!
Stocking up on guns, bullets, gold and silver for the “Great Reset”.
No Trump NFTs? I’m shocked! 🙂
A big shout out to the Colonel. Yesterday I managed to get through to the Anthony Weiner radio show (Yes THAT Anthony Weiner) when he was discussing the Fentanyl epidemic. His position was that it is not being carried through the porous border but rather only on vehicles at checkpoints . Using the intel our colonel has provided I demonstrated that mules and drones are bringing it through as well. His own position was that it is relatively tiny to transport which I used to make my point. There are high priced drones that can carry 40 pounds and as we know , price is not an issue. I also got to throw in the heavy weapons being recovered but did not have the time to bring up the “rape” trees.
Coupling this with the eight cases of friends and acquaintances I have who have lost children in the past decade and the 30th NYC Police Precinct’s comment, by that cynical sergeant 30 years back that, “To have a real war on drugs, the dealers have to be hanging from the lampposts in the neighborhood”. After all, what should be the penalty for peddling death? I actually got him to rethink his position.
That’s one for you Colonel!.
“To have a real war on drugs, the dealers have to be hanging from the lampposts in the neighborhood”.
I forget how many NYPD cops have been busted for fronting and/or dealing/and or protecting drug dealers in NY. Maybe we should hang a few of them.
Them too! What scum are somehow excluded because they wore a badge? I’m with Serpico. Always have been.
Phenomenal movie. Some of Pachino’s best work.. right up there with Dog Day Afternoon and Godfather P.III
“The family crest is the image of a sheepdog pissing into a gondola!”
Have you guys seen “The 75”? It’s the Michael Dowd story … holy shit. I lived in his precinct for a few years when I was first married. Had no idea what was going on as it happened. It’s a tremendous documentary.
Yes. That plus the Serpico revelations blew the NYPD wide open. it got rebuilt from teh ground up by Kelly, Bratton and of course Rudy. Problem now is cops again “get no respect” and will start thinking about themselves first. Why bother arresting someone who will be released the same day? “I’m getting spat upon while these guys are leaving $ 100 bills lying around all over their apartment?”
As the Colonel will be sure to tell you, bad things happen when morale goes out the window.
The new Mayor of NYC was a DESK COP HIS WHOLE CAREER. He left under questionable circumstances an issue which was quashed during the campaign by the media. After all, how could a black man with $ 5,000 suits be a crook?
“If only he had dinner with a Nazi …”
Oh, right, he did that too. 🙂
HAHAHAHAHAHHA A
Setting aside the (potential) money laundering and the sheer stupidity of Trump NFTs… you gotta admire the chutzpah of his grift.
You see, waaay down there, in the fine-fine print… Trump gets 10% of any sales/transfers.
You can’t even sell your worthless “card” to your fellow Trumpist without cutting in “the Big Guy.”
HAHAHAHHA AHAHH AHHAHAHHAH HAHAAAHHA AHAHAHA AA AHA!!!!!1
What’s so funny? I was reading about NFTs in general. There had been a scam where one guy would make multiple accounts and trade NFTs among his accounts, as though the demand was high, which drove up the price. In Trump’s case, who’s to say that a bunch of Charlies and Mathius’s didn’t buy up a bunch of them to run the same scam, cashing in on his brand. Trump kneecaps you right from the jump. So while you’re collecting cash, you’re giving some back to him. Now who’s laughing?
“who’s to say that a bunch of Charlies and Mathius’s didn’t buy up a bunch of them to run the same scam,”
Anita, my love, I’d remove my nuts with a butter knife first. Orange Man’s latest attempt to grift money from suckers may be another investigation waiting to happen, but I suspect it’s just another form of a ponzi scheme (10%). He’s desperate, The Donald is. His world is about to come apart. I just hope he’s around for the primaries. I can’t wait to watch the GOP rip itself to shreds. 🙂
<a href="https://media.tenor.com/qu21zSfsejEAAAAC/endgame-avengers.gif")Your faith in his downfall is, I think, unwarranted. He'll die of old age before ever seeing a consequence for his deeds.
That kind of thing used to happen with stocks all the time. Now it’s extremely illegal. As in “the SEC will show up at your home in the middle of the night and summarily execute you” kind of illegal.
But NFTs…. this is what happens when you have an unregulated market. It’s not (necessarily) illegal. But it is dishonest and sketchy as all hell.
Because neither of us would be caught dead giving that guy a penny, let alone a hundred bucks. I’d sooner light a hundred-dollar bill on fire and mail him a link to the NFT of the video.
He is… because he either (A) bilked his base for ~$4.5m or (B) laundered some significant percentage of foreign/criminal funds in plain sight.
You’ll know which one based on whether (A) there’s an attempt to sue his various shell companies for selling worthless crap and burying the 10% fee in the fine print or (B) the price skyrockets to laughable extremes, trades back and forth amongst sketchy parties, and trump quietly collects his 10% transaction fees which rack up into the 6-7 figures of untraceable funds.
With a 10% fee, trading should be very muted. That pushes it firming into the “buy and hold” category. If we see these things being aggressively day-traded, it will be a good sign that someone is trying to (A) drive the price up, (B) make it look like there’s more interest, and/or (C) rack up transaction fees to pay the “Big Guy.”
Either way, Trump’s laughing all the way to the bank – and no one is ever going to hold him accountable.
Foreign/ criminal funds…Seriously? Here we go……
…hold him accountable. You JUST said its legal.
Anita,
Legal / legitimate / non-sketchy parties don’t go to such absurd lengths to hide their identities and paper trails. It’s certainly not “proof” of anything, but it does stick to high heaven.
No one goes to these kinds of nutso extremes without a reason. If you want to give a guy money, you give him a check. The only reason you buy his NFT, then trade it between your shell entities in order to generate transaction fees for him to collect is if you want to legitimize and anonymize the source of funds.
And you don’t bother to legitimize and anonymize the source of funds unless you have a reason to.
If it’s just a simple bilking of his gullible base, well, that’s shitty enough, and it’s a thing unto itself. But if it starts to drive tons of untraceable funds into his pockets, well…. that’s another thing entirely, isn’t it?
As for legality… well…. lots of things are legal, except when they’re not.
You can, I assure you, run someone over in your car perfectly legally. You might get sued, but it’s not a crime. As long as it’s an accident, that is. But change the intent, make it deliberate, and now it’s vehicular manslaughter or even murder. Same exact action, same harm… legal… or not… based on nothing but intent. This is true for tons of otherwise-legal financial transactions – the colonel the other day just mentioned that he had a buddy get put away for step transactions.
This whole scenario can be comprised entirely of steps which are, individually, legal… but that, taken as a whole, constitute a crime, whether money laundering, influence peddling, tax evasion, or something else entirely. Or all of the above. I can’t speak to that without more visibility (which is, of course, entirely the point of this structure).
But the thing stinks. And if you doubt that, imagine what you’d be thinking if Hillary Clinton sold NFTs of herself
Here’s the hint: rich people don’t give away money for nothing. If they are buying something worthless like an NFT of a poorly photoshopped picture of Trump as a superhero, they are getting something in return (or paying for something they already received). So if that money does start to flow in, then you, Anita, must ask yourself what that “something” could be.
So, applying this theory, everyone who bought books written by a politician was laundering money. They were obviously sketchy.
Well actually that is a scam designed to skirt election laws, but perfectly legal.
Like Hillary’s book which sold less to the public than as giveaways purchased by the DNC to clog our landfills.
Yes. EXACTLY like that.
caught in a time warp again?
Thank you!
Yes.
Not individuals who just so happened to be interested and buy the books – I own several, myself – but yes, the “book clubs” and “think tanks” that buy thousands of copies, drive the books onto the best seller lists, etc.
Legality… well.. it’s probably is 100% legal because the people profiting are also the people writing the laws… so, you know… there’s that.
But it sure does stink to high heaven, doesn’t it?
I think you need to figure out who bought the things before you start reaching like you have.
Why?
It stinks to high heaven.
Either he’s grifting his credulous base* or he’s structuring a money laundering front. Or both.
We’ll probably never know “who bought them” – opacity is built into the system by design. But we can see trends in the data – we’ll know soon enough if this is funneling money to him or just a straightforward grift.
My back-of-the-napkin math says he’s made at least $250k so far on volume. For something with no intrinsic value and a 10% commission, that strikes me as insane… but it’s unfair to look at it as a stock. If the buyers are just ideological Trumpist, they aren’t necessarily responding to financial incentives the same way an “investor” would.. so that’s a datapoint, but one worth taking with a grain of salt.
————
*Ma nishtana
Why is figuring out how to make money off your fame now called grifting? And by the way, there are far more MILLIONS being spent on these NFT’s than Mr. Trump’s trading cards. So claiming rich people don’t spend money on something without expecting a return is not credible. They are just as prone to buying Tulips as anyone.
Seems to me that term, griftin, is supposed to be applied to those parasites who attach themselves to a cause of person. Mr. Trump has made a fortune trading on his name and image. TRUMP has always been the brand. Do you think those buying the cards do not know this?
But now it is grifting or potentially money laundering, etc. etc.. I wonder how small and pitiful the lives are of those howling monkeys, who sit around waiting everyday for something from Trump so they can create accusations of wrong doing in the media.
Your question (without the spin). “How could someone who has grifted people his entire life, but especially while in the White House, be accused of grifting for digital cards of him in various poses/outfits (minus 100 lbs or so)? If you watch the January 6 hearings, you’ll get one answer: “Because his “defend the steal” con had nothing to do with his legal defense fund.
Your ability to continue to defend this total piece of shit con artist is ASTOUNDING. 🙂
grift
noun
(sometimes used with a plural verb) a group of methods for obtaining money falsely through the use of swindles, frauds, dishonest gambling, etc.
money obtained from such practices.
Because he’s using his fame to convince rubes to buy things of no real value. while burying his 10% take in the fine print. I’m sure – as always – he was careful never to actually make any explicit guarantees.
It is no different than a celebrity who sells their own perfume / lingerie / whatever lines. It’s like selling commemorative Elvis dinner plates if the plates were stored in the Elvis museum and you only got to put a label next to it saying it was yours and you couldn’t sell it without giving Elvis’ estate a cut.
There’s nothing necessarily “illegal” about it, but it is taking advantage of credulous people based on his popularity.
True. And most of those are grifts as well.
I do not pretend that Trump invented this nonsense.. just that its existence somehow percolated into the thick sludge of his smooth brain and he said “ooh, I want in on that!” and then licensed his brand/image for someone else to make and sell these NFTs and give him a cut.
Whether he’s using these for money laundering / influence pedling / or some other criminality remains to be seen.
They do. Oh, they certainly do.
But churning a portfolio with a 10% cut would (probably) show up in the data…. The My Pillow guy probably owners a hundred. But when if/when they sell for millions or the same one bounces back and forth between the same accounts over and over, each time, cutting Trump & Co a check for thousands… well, at some point, it starts to look fishy, ya know? The SEC has alllll kinds of tools to detect this kind of thing for stocks, so I wouldn’t be surprised if someone knows how to sniff it out for Trump NFTs.
———-
STILL: innocent until proven guilty. I do not accuse him of criminality.. just lawful but awful.. and leave open the possibility that there is more here than just simple grift.
bilking of his gullible base, </b
Caveat emptor……perhaps?
Yes… and no…
Yes in that it’s not necessarily illegal, but that doesn’t make it morally right or ethical.
You know, every time I open an LLC, I get a barrage of very officious-looking letters informing me that I should have such-and-such documentation / certifications and fill out this form to request it (don’t forget the check)… it all looks like it comes from the state – even has a note on it saying something “federal penalty for tampering with mail,” and “code this and that states that you need,” etc. You’d have to read very carefully into the fine print to find that, no, this company is not affiliated with the state and nothing they’re providing is required and, anyway, you can request such-and-such directly from the SoS for a fraction of the cost.
It always takes a minute of a practiced eye to catch the fine print to reveal that this is NOT what it appears (though very carefully, never explicitly purports) to be.
Now, if I fall for this, am I a rube? Yes. Is it legal? Also yes. But is it RIGHT? No. Is it ETHICAL? No.
This, like the Trump NFTs, like (most? all?) NFTs, like politicians’ sales of books to bulk-buyers, etc etc, etc.. it’s lawful but awful.
You can argue Caveat Emptor. And I’ll concede the point on a technical sense. But just because you CAN sell bullshit to credulous morons doesn’t make it RIGHT to bilk them.
You can argue Caveat Emptor. And I’ll concede the point on a technical sense. But just because you CAN sell bullshit to credulous morons doesn’t make it RIGHT to bilk them.
All you say is correct….but in the end, you should read and understand what you are buying….that is for anything. A fool, and his money, is soon departed theory.
I agree to awful but lawful…..but the bottom line…..did you buy it or not?
I cannot tell you how many times I have been ridiculed for taking the time to read the fine print….”A waste of time” I have heard many times……even when buying furniture or some such….I look for a couch and sit down and read the fine print…..
You and I both know that the reams of fine print are out there to persuade the buyer NOT TO READ it…because,, well, it takes too long and it is in legalese anyway….and when you question it……you always get the answer “It is just legal mumbo jumbo that goes into all contracts”…..
Again, bottom line….if you purchase something without reading…Shame on you…..if you purchase something that you do not understand……shame on you.
I get it…awful but lawful…but somehow, the fact that you bought something is a final decision that YOU made.
It’s entirely possible for one party to be stupid/lazy/inept and for the other party to be unethically taking advantage of that fact.
It need not be mutually exclusive.
You were not good in a rock fight, I bet.
Oops….that s a fool and his money…………
Good Lord, Colonel (& Matthius) … who cares whether it’s lawful or not. Let’s just assume it’s the usual Trump BS (China no good, buy my products made in China) … we ALL know he’s a con artist of the worst order … it’s the point that he’s still doing crazy shit like this (of course he’s bilking his moronic supporters) and that his supporters and/or fellow GOP members refuse to acknowledge what THE WORLD knows. He needs to be jettisoned into space already. Why would anyone ANYONE
have ANYTHING to do with him anymore. Can you not see this is the end for him? He’s bilking the last dollar he can from people who can’t let go of his magic (sarcasm intended) …
As I said…..a toll and his money are soon departed. If you buy a pig in a poke….shame on you.
🙂
From a lying convicted criminal? C’mon, you can do better than that.
Are…. are you sure about that?
Part of the problem is that so much of Trump’s “inner circle” has been convicted of various crimes. It’s hard to find anyone left to expose things who hasn’t been convicted of something-or-other…
I forget, who was his unnamed co-conspirator?
How many of Orange Man’s BFF’s “aren’t” convicted criminals? 🙂
Charlie,
I don’t know why you are so dishonest about all this.
It’s clearly that the Deep State™ Swamp™ is out to get him.
He hires all The Best People™ – so clearly none of them are actually criminals (or Trump would never have hired them – QED). Therefore, they were all framed or victims of hit-jobs by biased the Fake News™ Lying Press™ and Mexican Judges.™ They’re only saying bad things about Trump now to save their own skins and salvage their reputations – the Swamp™ has devolved them. They are no longer The Best People.™ And that’s why Trump has cut ties with them.
So, the Deep State™ isn’t really after Cohen et al. It’s after Trump – they were just in the way.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Can’t wait to see the rationalization of this argument from the …. well I just don’t have a word to describe this, except maybe idiotic.
https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2022/12/17/decolonizing-light-another-ridiculous-example-of-dumbing-down-science-in-the-name-of-woke-n675249
I just tried to read the underlying paper (as opposed to the hit-piece you posted that clearly doesn’t understand it either) and I think I just had a stroke.
It just… what?
Ah… here we go…
Ok… ignoring the biased idiotic rag’s efforts to tie this to “in the name of woke,” what I gather this article is saying in its convoluted way is this: science is dominated by Europeans and white people (hereafter referred to a “Colonials”). This is at least broadly true insofar as it compares to the indigenous (and associated) minorities it considers. (eg, ignoring India and China and Japan, etc). I mean… myopic, sure, I guess, but substantially (if banally) true if narrow.
So the idea is that, if Colonials dominate science, that squeezes out (A) unique viewpoints from minority/indigenous cultures that may have value and (B) any indigenous knowledge/input that might have value. This is bad for science and for those individuals.
That’s not “we must consider ‘what if the volcano really is a god’,” but rather “we must consider if they consider the site holy before we plot down a ain’t telescope on it. When put that way, this seems reasonable.
That’s also “hey, you know, we should include people who have different viewpoints.” Maybe the guy from [different future] will look at the same questions/data and have different ideas that we wouldn’t have otherwise considered. This is probably true, though the extent to which this is so is impossible to quantify. Regardless, this is not a particularly bad idea either.
Ok…. assuming I’ve gotten the gist of what they’re trying to say, I’ll call this really terrible communication which was (probably) written this way deliberately to generate drama / attention. So, all in all, ***yawn.***
But physics is always looking for the odd man out who has a new idea that explains physical phenomena. For example, Einstein, Newton, Galileo, ….
The key is does the new approach explain physical observations and does it have predictive power. Paying homage to a volcano is not going to create a unified field theory.
Do you believe in Magic? How about Voodoo?
Science is being deconstructed daily by people who “think” and “feel” answers to mighty problems. Our return to pre-history status will be complete when the Shaman is equal to the guy with a PhD in Physics from RPI.
Don’t you know that photons come in a rainbow of colors? Even quarks have color, strangeness, charm, flavor… 🙂
Enjoy, SUFA-ites. 🙂
The January 6 committee went easy on the Orange Man. Just 4 criminal referrals. 🙂
Remind me… isn’t “refer everything to a committee” one of the key tactics of a worker slowdown?
Hmm…. probably no relevance.. just musing aloud…
————
I’m sure the DOJ will assemble a committee to evaluate the political ramifications and another to review the merits of the referral.. and they’ll empower a committee to study the matter.. and they’ll empower a committee to collect and review evidence… and … and … and …………….
Still no indictment, no trial…..nothing………..innocent. Not yet anyway but I sincerely doubt that the DOJ will pursue anything in light of setting a precedent that will haunt them in years to come….
Sorta reminds me of the Harry Reid issue—–The nuclear option was invoked in November 2013, when a Senate Democratic majority led by Harry Reid used the procedure to eliminate the 60-vote rule for judicial nominations, other than nominations to the Supreme Court.
How many times has this but the Dems in the proverbial butt.
Probably true.. but note that INACTION is also a precedent.
Yes sir….it most certainly is….but it is a precedent already set.
Garland appointed a special prosecutor so the referral will just go to him to add to the stack of papers he already has. We have had two impeachments which were pure political stunts with no meat. They should proceed to an indictment only if the they have a clear case that they can present to the people. If it is murky in anyway, then it just becomes another political witch hunt.
Anyway, Sir Mathius….I am still going to try to get you some pictures (have not fogotten)……just for your perusal is the briefing that I attended this morning….I have not see it personally but intelligence (from across the “frontier”) indicates a tent city set up in Ciudad Acuna of 35,000. This is going to prove interesting this weekend beginning Thursday when we expect temperatures down here approaching zero degrees chill factor……11 degrees with 25mph winds for 72 hours.
I thought y’all froze to death when temps dropped below 65…?
No shit Sherlock…….I get cold below 90 degrees. I do draw the line at 112, however.
112 DRY is gorgeous. Perfect weather for lounging out of doors and sunning yourself on a rock like a lizard. I draw the line at 120 dry heat, but 180 in a sauna, and maybe 90 if doing anything more strenuous than strolling around and enjoying the fine weather.
112 HUMID is satan’s asscrack.
———–
Gotta say, living in the North East… the greatest feeling in the worst that I miss with all my soul is when you walk out of an over-air-conditioned ice box of a store and the heat hits you like a blast wave.. and you feel all the tension just melt out of your body… hnnnggggg…
By the way…..as to help with Military records…..Rumor has it that a certain Colonel feller has been known to get information when it is not readily available. But that requires as much knowledge as possible. The fire in St Louis destroyed a lot of records….and this was before backup was available back then….but there are archives of old records from back then that were stored in other places.
I would need as much info as you can get me…..I do have minions at my disposal that can……..be…….persuaded to dig.
Also, be happy to do it.
I’ll get you what I can… but it’s honestly precious little….
It always amazed me later in life to see how little interest follow up generations had in their forebears. Good Lord, as a pre-teen I pumped the old man on the 20th Fighter Group and his squadron. I asked the uncles and tried desperately to “pry” any info they might have about my grandparents. We were well represented in WW 2 service by four brothers on either side of the family serving . No Marines though. Unfortunately, Yanacek and Trynosky were in the latter part of the alphabet that got burned up in ’73.
My cousin is only now, at 72 trying to piece together his father’s Army service in WW 2. Uncle Frank came in late with a different spelling Troynousky and stayed for the European occupation. My Dad had great stories about THAT. Remember all the surplus equipment that was supposed to be “dumped” in the channel? Apparently some wasn’t! A nice “leg up” on your return to civilian life.
Grandpa Mathius really didn’t want to talk about the war.
9 times out of ten, you’d get some version of “I spent most of it in school in Europe” which I believe to be substantially true, but definitely incomplete – he did something with a tank and was the Buldge, and he had medals..
Alternatively, he convinced my younger brother that he’d lost his leg in the war. Now, mind you, he still had both his legs – he just only ever wore long pants. My little brother believed that for years.
Then again, if you caught him in just the right mood, you might get the tale of the time he caught a shell fired from an enemy tank with his bare hands and hurtled it back at them, so demoralizing the enemy that he singlehandedly turned the tide of the whole war. Presumably, he won one of his medals for this, though I’m not sure what the correct one would be for this.
It is also alleged that he punched Hitler in the mouth… though I feel like that event would have made the news, you know? I assume there’s a special “punched Hitler in the Mouth” medal that I would have noticed at some point, right?
All those medals mysteriously vanished when he died. I’m almost positive that a certain shit-head sibling of mine “acquired” them and put them up for auction on eBay, never to be seen by the family again. A real tragedy to lose that herritage.
——-
Anyway, the old man got Parkinson’s… he died a decade before his body died. Terrible way to go. My father believes to this day that it’s the consequence of his time in the War, but who can say.
Tankers who got shot up in the Sherman’s had a very high incidence of TBI. For your children and their children, it is important to start digging. Your grandpa stamped “paid” on your family’s entrance to this country.
Sherman’s vs Tigers……never a good outcome.
Rumor has it that my maternal grandfather was also enlisted… but seeing as he abandoned the family, leaving my absolute saint of a grandmother to raise my mother alone, I don’t really give a shit about him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=M-4+Sherman+cooking+off&oq=M-4+Sherman+cooking+off&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l2.8435j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&i
General “Fifth” … no wonder we can’t win at war. 🙂
With all the corruption in our government, another undeclared war, an economy in shambles, an invasion on our southern border a severely divided country, it seems that all we can discuss here is Orange Man Bad. We are becoming irrelevant.
Just to give you some idea how bad it is, grocery stores in Moscow are better stocked and prices lower than they are here, and I do not mean Moscow, ID.
It’s called “the banality of evil” T-man, and yes, that’s where we are as a country. Trump was a symptom of the capitalist, globalist empire. Sanders was a possible answer (although they would’ve killed him before allowing him to be president) … he offered a brief alternative, but the corporations and YOU suckers bought into the American Dream yet again. It’s over, brother. Corporations rule the day. The Orange Man is the ONLY sense of justice “some” can grasp at … because WE know nothing else will be done about ANYTHING (except removing a woman’s right, legislating protests illegal (oil companies), signing fealty pledges to Israel (against BDS), etc. You’re getting your way, T … we’re going backwards. You may well be comfortable for a short while. 🙂
Just when you thought it safe to go back in the water……Another tidbit from the progressives at Stamford…you know….the ass hats changing all the terminology….
The game of pool is now considered racist but golf is not. In pool, according to the experts, you are taking a “white” ball and knocking all the colored balls in the pockets and then you take the white ball to knock the black ball into the pocket to win the game.
Now, in golf, according to the gurus, hitting a white ball all over the place with various clubs is not racists despite the apparent analogy……since white is not a color, it cannot be racists…..
According to the experts, any application of the color of black (black hats, black friday) is racist but the example of “white washing” is now racist because it is spoken in a different context.
I wonder if all the really smart people at Stamford understand that………Some people may call white a color because it comprises all hues on the light spectrum. Many also consider black a color because you can combine many pigments to create it. In technical reality, Black and white are not colors but shades. Shades are known to augment colors and can function as colors.
You now can say absolutely anything and get away with it. Learned scholars will defend you. Shamans from bush country will trump wizened old Biologists.
Several weeks back, our resident race baiter called me out for suggesting that opening a Cadillac dealership in SoCal was a “racist” idea. Well, seems I am not the only one with the idea. AND he has a darker skin tone than me.
https://www.mrctv.org/blog/fk-actorcomedian-faizon-love-says-calif-reparations-will-be-foolishly-spent-cadillacs-benzs?fbclid=IwAR0j5lSAdNq0LY4KHURTZ5GeRFbZxvxH76OKztmDCdazgkiwu-l-BfP4DHM
Capitalism 101, SK. Exploit and take advantage wherever and whenever you can.
Race Baiter!
Nazi. 🙂
Well, Charlie, there is something to say about the survival of the fittest when compared to the Borg.
I loved the way that the Bork adapted to all forms of aggression….shoot at them once and they are dead…shoot at them again and they have adapted. But I am like you….why not send three cubes and just take over the Romulans and the Klingons and the Federation all at the same time.
Not only could they capture Picard but why not also Tomalak (romulans) and Gowron, son of M’Rel, (Klingon) at the same time and wipe out all three fleets?
Charlie and Grand Nagus Zek would probably get along…although, Charlie is not “hip” to the Trekkie movement, obviously. Now, you appear to be the new generation Trekkie (me too) but cut my teeth on the Vulcans and the baby boomer guys like Captain Kirk.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, Colonel (Borg). I don’t watch sci-fi much at all, but based on Sir Matthius post, I assume it’s some movie or show. Still makes no sense to me. Need a better reference. 🙂
Jesus, Charlie! It’s Star Trek! Were you raised under a rock?
Very formidable group of……….well….until Hugh came along.
My brats and wife give me shit about that all the time. Too silly. 🙂
These are a few of my favorite crimes … 🙂
Over 5 million have crossed the southern border since Mr. Biden took office. Some of those were sent back but not a full 4 million plus.
So what is the immigration quota set by CONGRESS? That would be a little less than 700,000 per year, or 1.4 million since Mr. Biden was elected. TOTAL for all reasons and from all countries.
“https://www.calehrlawfirm.com/blog/what-is-the-quota-system-for-immigration/
I don’t think you understand, JAC………the border is closed. There is no there….there. Those 5 million are a figment of your imagination. I am on the border because I love it…..I am not here to stop the flow of ILLEGALS because there are none, donchaknow.
Those that are sleeping on the streets in Denver, now, are not really there and the ones in El Paso….well, they are not there either. At last count, Austin, our liberal experiment gone awry, has over 14,000 on the streets living in card board boxes and give away tents. No food, no water, no restrooms…..there is no room in the Inn. BUT WAIT……it cannot be because there are no illegals because the border is secure and closed….just ask Mayorkas, he will tell you that everything is a-ok.
Colonel
As you know, I am a student of history and politics, among other things. Yet with all my readings and musing I never thought I would live to see such dystopian times as we have now. Where words have no solid meaning. Where politicians lie but the media repeats it and then codifies it.
It really is feeling like we are living in one of Orwell’s or Rand’s stories.
Yes, I know…those of us long in the tooth just shake our heads and wonder…..
Colonel,
My dear friend and brother from another mother. Serious question.
Why should we who are long in the tooth keep fighting the fight? It seems it is getting futile, from where I stand. Don’t get me wrong, I love a futile battle if I know I am in the right. Or to protect my family’s future. But if our children do not seem to care then why are we wasting our last years on earth fighting for something even they don’t seem to want?
Why should we spend any time building rational arguments, defending moral positions and supporting such archaic notions as liberty, freedom and justice, let alone “free will” and “personal responsibility”, when faced with nothing but an emotional outburst as a counter argument?
In simpler terms. I have a Duty to X, but what if X doesn’t exist anymore? Am I relieved of that Duty as when X dies? Or do I have a Duty to resurrect X from the ashes of narcissistic, irrational emotionalism that dominates our world these days. This is a question of whether “we should proceed.
If the answer is YES, then we need to figure out HOW to proceed. These days I am leaning more towards skinning them and hanging their hides on a fence. Just in case you were wondering.
I decided to share these questions with you as I am guessing, given the task you face down there, they have crossed your minds as well.
“and supporting such archaic notions as liberty, freedom and justice”
Justice? Are you seriously attempting to claim you care about justice? 🙂
But if our children do not seem to care then why are we wasting our last years on earth fighting for something even they don’t seem to want?
We are old school, JAC. We were raised under a different standard. The kids of today do not know hardship. They have grown up in a world of “plenty”. Never a shortage. Never have suffered gas lines. Never have been through rationing. Always had color TVs and such. Never had to drop a dime in a pay phone and never missed a meal.
They do not know sacrifice. The only sacrifice they know is having to do without a latte’. But we actually know what freedom is and what it cost. Nothing was given to us. I never had an allowance even though my family was very well off. I never had a car “given” to me and I had to mow lawns for money to spend. My parents taught us work and study ethics. And, as parents, I am sure you remember the lectures of…..I hope you grow up better than we did.
But, defending our own morals is where our self esteem derives. I will NEVER accept transgender nor the arguments for it but I recognize that it supposedly exists. But, I remember the Ozzie and Harriet days and the Ward and June Cleaver days.
The most puzzling aspect to me is the lack of personal responsibility. This is where most have failed. Nothing should be given to you because you are (insert whatever color you want). Merit has fallen by the wayside….it is gone. It is something for nothing and that is what the majority of the crowd is today….I deserve this. We just did not grow up that way. There has been much said about indoctrination on this site and that is exactly what has happened. But, we still do our best because our best is not quitting. that is who we are….
So, it is worth it to keep fighting and, as my kids have finally figured out, at age 50 and 46……they finally have agreed that I sure have gotten a lot wiser over the years. Now that they both have kids in school….things change.
Yes, JAC, keep fighting and keep smiling. When something happens, that you knew was going to happen to one of your kids, you do not have to say I told you so……just smile at them just like you knew it was gonna happen….and say nothing. That works wonders.
There is no “HOW TO PROCEED”….you stick with what works and let them make their own mistakes…and when they do, offer encouragement and advice but do not bail them out. There is a term that I like to use called “helicopter parents”…you know, those whom hover over their children after the age of 18….those whose children live with them. What incentive does a 28 year old adult have to succeed if they still live at home getting the freebies.
Do you remember growing up when you turned 18? What did your parents tell you?
Strange times we live in JAC, but the world turns. I especially like the way the youngsters think they have hijacked and coined the phrases of climate change, global warming, etc……If I remember correctly the world was going to end in the 60’s, the 70’s’ and 80’s…..Somehow California is still there and so is New York even though the predictions were, they would be underwater and all the polar bears would be gone.
Ahhh, well…………………………………………..
We are old school, JAC. We were raised under a different standard. The kids of today do not know hardship. They have grown up in a world of “plenty”. Never a shortage. Never have suffered gas lines. Never have been through rationing. Always had color TVs and such. Never had to drop a dime in a pay phone and never missed a meal.
Colonel, you don’t think kids today have hardships? You need to get out more. What some kids go through today is harrowing compared to gas lines. Growing up in neighborhoods with diminished public services. Did you ever live through what the kids in Flint, Michigan or Jackson Mississippi had to deal with regarding water? You have a very narrow scope of view.
They do not know sacrifice. The only sacrifice they know is having to do without a latte’. But we actually know what freedom is and what it cost.
What was that cost, Colonel? Illegal, immoral wars we LOST? I’m not sure where the good lessons are/were in that. All the death and injuries and PTSD and then to learn they did it based on a lie and blind faith. No thanks.
Nothing was given to us. I never had an allowance even though my family was very well off. I never had a car “given” to me and I had to mow lawns for money to spend. My parents taught us work and study ethics. And, as parents, I am sure you remember the lectures of…..I hope you grow up better than we did.
Therefore EVERYONE should grow up the same way? I guess we’d have to start with EVERYONE’s family being “very well off.”
But, defending our own morals is where our self esteem derives. I will NEVER accept transgender nor the arguments for it but I recognize that it supposedly exists. But, I remember the Ozzie and Harriet days and the Ward and June Cleaver days.
I remember the Ozzie days too. Back when blacks were barely on television and usually as servants. Married couples didn’t cheat. Nobody was an alcoholic. Nobody smoked weed, etc. The kids were always adoring. It was all a CROCK OF SHIT, Colonel. A purposeful crock of shit.
Merit has fallen by the wayside….it is gone.
Certainly you don’t mean the good old boys clubs or those who inherited wealth or those who redlined entire neighborhoods and the people living in them.
There is no “HOW TO PROCEED”….you stick with what works and let them make their own mistakes…and when they do, offer encouragement and advice but do not bail them out.
Yes, if they have to sleep under a bridge, fuck’em. If they did, it’s on them. Good Christian values.
There is a term that I like to use called “helicopter parents”…you know, those whom hover over their children after the age of 18….those whose children live with them. What incentive does a 28 year old adult have to succeed if they still live at home getting the freebies.
Could be they need the help, but then they’re snowflakes. Or, it could be their saving their coins so they can grow up to be future captains of American industry (or afford a house some day).
Do you remember growing up when you turned 18? What did your parents tell you?
One of mine had left us years before. The other struggled to make ends meet. She told me to stay out of trouble. The other one told me to join the army. I wouldn’t piss on that one if I saw him on fire.
Strange times we live in JAC, but the world turns. I especially like the way the youngsters think they have hijacked and coined the phrases of climate change, global warming, etc……If I remember correctly the world was going to end in the 60’s, the 70’s’ and 80’s…..Somehow California is still there and so is New York even though the predictions were, they would be underwater and all the polar bears would be gone.
Right. Science progresses but society shouldn’t. Nice recipe for disaster. We knew better about science in 1960, 70 and 80, so any advancement since then should be flushed down the toilet. Jesus Christ, Colonel …
Certainly you don’t mean the good old boys clubs or those who inherited wealth or those who redlined entire neighborhoods and the people living in them. Nope, Not at all……Merit is defined as getting somewhere because you “EARNED IT”….you know good and well what I meant.
What some kids go through today is harrowing compared to gas lines. Growing up in neighborhoods with diminished public services. Did you ever live through what the kids in Flint, Michigan or Jackson Mississippi had to deal with regarding water? You have a very narrow scope of view.
This is nothing new, Charlie. These things happened in the 50’s and 60’s and not just water issues but electrical grid issues and failing systems throughout the US…..but somehow we all recovered and continue to recover. You even ridiculed the Texas power grid where no one escaped the issues, rich and poor alike. But, we learned a valuable lesson that wind and solar power failed miserably (don’t forget that Texas is the largest supplier of wind power)…..BUT, we learned our lesson….bring the same weather on today, and we shall see how well we learned our lesson. We are getting ready to find out over the next 72 hours.
What was that cost, Colonel? I think WW1 and WW2 were pretty good examples…..and you already know that I do not support proxy wars.
Therefore EVERYONE should grow up the same way? Never said that….my answer was to JAC….and remembering.
Yes, if they have to sleep under a bridge, fuck’em. If they did, it’s on them. Good Christian values. Remember, I do not claim Christianity but your argument is sooooo lame.
Right. Science progresses but society shouldn’t. Nice recipe for disaster. We knew better about science in 1960, 70 and 80, so any advancement since then should be flushed down the toilet. Jesus Christ, Colonel. Jeez Loueeeze…..never said that either. All I am saying, is that the chicken little syndrome is alive and well…nothing is under water, the polar bears are still living, I’m sure I will find a real live Albatross somewhere that is not a true politician….I love the advancements out there….they are great. I am a living example of an advancement (heart stent instead of by pass surgery)….advancements are great except, in my opinion, when you depend upon them. Love going to the moon and beyond…..love living without transistors and diodes and Hi Fidelity…..all great advancements since then. Hate the idea of losing my muscle car of the 70’s and leaded gas but at least I got to live through that and my street racing..(really stupid to do but I was a stupid kid growing up). I grew up on reading maps and navigating by the stars and cardinal directions. My personal plane was a marvel of modern navigational aids. Loved all of that……..
But you know what? the cities are STILL not under water and the polar bears are still living……
So, what is next? Perhaps Soylent Green?
We are probably already there. They just haven’t told us yet.
I mean, have you seen some of these drinks the young folks use these days. Some of them have a distinct “greenish hue” with a sludge like consistency.
I agree, JAC. To think that in 2016, the only 2 people put forward by the two major political parties were Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump … and somehow you still defend Trump and his party. Two corrupt to core individuals and you still defend one and his party. Baffling.
charlie
I do not know why you think you will get anywhere here constantly LYING about my positions regarding Mr. Trump and/or Republicans, etc.
I guess I could take your approach to handling discussion on individual events or actions. That is just lump them all under the titles Evil Bastard and be done with it. But then how would I react to anything you might say that was actually of value?
I’ve yet to see you place any blame on the orange man. Everything is a conspiracy against Trump and the GOP. Right. Sure. You’re as honest as a Trump tax audit. 🙂
Which proves you don’t see very well. And now it appears you have joined the QAnon crowd.
Or you just fall back to LYING so you don’t have to read, comprehend and respond in a reasoned manner.
Q is you, my brother. I hear others tell of your dislike of Trump, but all I ever see here is you defending him and the shit he pulls over and over and over. So, tell us, which NFT did you buy? 🙂
So, Right Wingers, what happens now that orange man’s tax returns will be released? Income, charitable contributions, obvious tax fraud, etc. … he’s having a rough time. I think yous should purchase a few of those NFT’s if they are any left. 🙂
Only a fool would think releasing Mr. Trump’s returns is a good thing. Let alone Congress’ decietful argument justifying getting them in the first place.
Politicians who carry grudges don’t seem to be able to look into the future very far. Just like ol’ Harry “the grifter” Reid when he killed the filibuster for judges.
When all you live by is contempt for another person you wind up justifying just about any atrocity in the name of “getting the SOB.”
Show us your morality, why don’t you, JAC. Come on, that famous morality you always speak of. I guess you don’t have a problem with the wealthy cheating on taxes, lying to the public, etc.. I’m sure Jesus is with you on this one. You guys kill me. Such hypocrites. Protect THAT criminal, but if he’s a Democrat, he’s Satan. It was a mandatory IRS policy to audit Presidents. Trump appointed a guy famous for cheating for wealthy people … he became Trump’s IRS Commissioner … and refused to audit Trump (even though Trump claimed he was under audit). Tell me, do you make the sign of the cross before you go to bed? 🙂
I know you love to project but this is even a little much for you. Good grief man, get a handle on rational argumentation would you please.
What’s not rational about it, JAC? You have no answer for it. That’s the reality. All praise Orange Man … the MOST despicable human EVER to sit in the White House. I’m loving how you can’t even admit what a criminal he’s been to your precious constitution and you’re even more precious founding fatheads. 🙂
I have one single simple answer…….Innocent until proven guilty. You seem to want to by pass that step…….
When Trump is indicted, charged and found guilty….or anyone for that matter….Clinton, Trump, Bush, Biden (both of them) ……the you can yell and harangue and scream and call me names all you wish…..but until then….
YOU………HAVE…….NO….GROUND……TO……STAND ON……!!!!!!!
You can claim anything you wish and all the innuendo….but you have no moral or ethical standing UNTIL…….UNTIL……someone, no matter whom it is…….is tried and convicted.
Why do you insist on wanting anyone other than yourself to recognize and agree with your stance……YOU, sir, are the one who is wrong and you can claim no right………………UNTIL a conviction ……in a court of law…..judged by peers. Then you can crow all night long and issue all the ‘I told you so’s you wish to utter……but right now…it is nothing but innuendo. Nothing more.
Now, I am talking J6……as to his taxes as a private citizen and his business ventures, right or wrong…..are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS…nor mine. There are a lot of things out there that Mathius likes to correctly use the term “lawful but awful” and that is certainly true but until it is unlawful………crying about it does nothing but create resentment towards the person who does the yelling.
So, here it is. You hate Trump. Bully for you. You believe him to be an immoral and lousy person….bully for you. Convict him and I will join you. Until then, he is innocent.
Why do you insist on wanting anyone other than yourself to recognize and agree with your stance……
Do YOU really think I expect to get confirmation of anything I say in this place (SUFA)? Come on, man …
YOU, sir, are the one who is wrong and you can claim no right………………UNTIL a conviction ……in a court of law…..judged by peers. Then you can crow all night long and issue all the ‘I told you so’s you wish to utter……but right now…it is nothing but innuendo. Nothing more.
Ha! Like SUFA would EVER admit they were wrong! 🙂 The evidence is more than clear on EVERYTHING, whether he’s indicted or not. Did he steal the documents? Yes. Did he not turn them over after a subpoena? He did not. Did they find docs at his residence with a valid search warrant? Yes, they did. Did they find even more docs (his lawyers)? Yes, they did. Is there a federal law prohibiting what he did? Yes there is. If he’s not indicted, there’s a political reason for it … unless you think OJ didn’t kill his wife and that poor kid.
Now, I am talking J6……as to his taxes as a private citizen and his business ventures, right or wrong…..are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS…nor mine.
Actually, they are our business. I want to know if the guy running for President is a fucking criminal. It wouldn’t have stopped his supporters but perhaps independents would’ve like to know he’s been making fools of them with his claims of an “audit.”
There are a lot of things out there that Mathius likes to correctly use the term “lawful but awful” and that is certainly true but until it is unlawful………crying about it does nothing but create resentment towards the person who does the yelling.
Resentment towards the person who does the yelling. I call that well-placed angst. Rather than deal with the problem, let’s attack the messenger. Classic.
So, here it is. You hate Trump. Bully for you. You believe him to be an immoral and lousy person….bully for you. Convict him and I will join you. Until then, he is innocent.
I suspect you will not, in the end, join me. I suspect you’ll whataboutism everything that happens to him. Maybe I’m wrong about that, but I find it odd that you’re so upset about my pointing out the Orange Man’s deficits. I mean, like, wow. It doesn’t bother you that he’s “allegedly” made a mockery of your precious constitution? Although there’s nothing allegedly about it. Republicans buried him in testimony. You need the court to see what is obvious (again, OJ). According to the law, he did nothing to his wife and that kid. Hell, let him run for president … and never ask about his taxes. 🙂
Mr. The Colonel,
I think this is wrong.
It is certainly true from a LEGAL perspective. That is, the GOVERNMENT cannot take action or condemn or [whatever] unless/until duly tried and convicted in a court of law.
But we are civilians, not the government.
And, as such, we are free to judge and offer whatever (legally permissible) consequences which we may elect to levy.
I’m not a celebrity person, but I believe Will Smith walked on stage the other day and slapped someone for insulting his wife. This is assault, plain and simple. Because the rules do not apply to rich people, he was never charge, will never be tried, will never be convicted. But I can still opine that he has committed a crime and I can still condemn his act of violence.
Should I have to deny the evidence of my own senses, waiting studiously neutral, until the courts weigh in to form a judgment? If you ask me if it was wrong for him to commit assault, do I have to say “until he’s tried and convicted, I have no opinion and you have no leg to stand on”?
Does this make sense?
I think, sir, sometimes you hide behind this technicality, offering “innocent until proven guilty” where the other person isn’t asking about LEGAL guilt or innocence.
If your tractor disappears and a minute later, your neighbor starts working his field with ‘his’ new tractor – that looks identical to yours, right down to the dent from where you got rammed by an irate bull in a few years back – are you going to sit around and wait for a court judgment before you opine that he stole your tractor? If we ask you “is he a thief,” would you respond with “innocent until proven guilty”? If you accuse him, would you accept his response that you have no leg to stand on unless/until he’s tried and convicted?
Fair points…..fair. Yes, I do stand behind the technicalities quite a bit….you and I have agreed, in the past, that we see things very differently on a lot…..I see black and white….you can see shades of grey. To me, it is like being a little bit pregnant…you either are or your are not….there is no in between. If we are going to be a nation of laws, then be a nation of laws. If you are not innocent until proven guilty, then why have any law…let the six guns rule.
If my neighbor steals my tractor, in the State of Texas, under the castle doctrine,,,I simply walk over and shoot him and take my tractor back. The only retort I would get from the sheriff is…..nice shot.
I guess my biggest disagreement with Charlie stems from the fact that “if we do not see it his way, we are complete idiots.” To this I say, I will not jump on his wagon because he wants me to jump on his wagon. He wants all of us to believe that a Democratic Kangaroo Court is gospel and there is no denying what they have formulated. To this, I say bunk and bull and if we do not believe his way, then we are ignoring the obvious as he sees it. So, my only retort to this type of diatribe is………………prove it. In a court of law…try him. But his retort to that is………………..well, no one has to stones to do it so therefore, I am still right. Bullshit.
But we are civilians, not the government. Incorrect. we are the government. We elect stupid government.
Because the rules do not apply to rich people, he was never charge, will never be tried, will never be convicted. But I can still opine that he has committed a crime and I can still condemn his act of violence.
Yes, you can opine all you want….up to…..your way is the only way and that if I choose not to see it the same way, then I am wrong and, therefore, an idiot and supporter. I have never seen you that way….the Pirate perhaps….and that stupid dog, perhaps…..
Should I have to deny the evidence of my own senses, waiting studiously neutral, until the courts weigh in to form a judgment? If you ask me if it was wrong for him to commit assault, do I have to say “until he’s tried and convicted, I have no opinion and you have no leg to stand on”? No sir…you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. YOUR opinion. But, as it pertains to J6, is it, consequently, wrong for me to not believe the msm and the committee and say…..prove it and make him guilty. Charlie likes to bring up the OJ case…..sorry, the man was found innocent of criminal wrong doing. He is innocent in the eyes of the law. Full stop….in the eyes of the law. So, Charlies opinion of J6 is that it is GOSPEL. My opinion of J6 is that there MIGHT be something there…..but put all the facts out there with cross examination….find him guilty…..and, as I have stated on here publicly many many many (using my best Lasard) times…….I will proudly stand up and say, I was obviously wrong. But, I would expect the same from Charlie…..not going to get it but I would expect it. My old pappy used to say…expect in one hand and spit in the other and see which fills up the quickest.
Again, like his example of OJ…the man was proven innocent in a court of law….may not like the verdict….but he has no criminal record.
BUT, your points are well received. YOurs…not DPM or that silly assed dog.
[PENALTY FLAG]
Bull-fucking-shit he was.
He was found “not guilty.” That is NOT “innocent.”
That means that the jury (the trier of fact) found that the prosecution did not meet its burden of proof.
If you cannot prove a thing to be true, that does not make it false.
So he is
innocentnot guilty in the eyes of the law.But you and I don’t need to go along with that bullshit.
We can look at the evidence the court wasn’t able to consider. For example, the bloodstains that got thrown out, or his “if I’d done it” book he wrote years later. We don’t need to meet the high burden of “beyond a reasonable doubt” in order to make a decision that “yea, he probably did it.”
Ok….I stand corrected….yes he was found not guilty. Correct. ((((D13 picks up penalty flag and hands it back)))).
I never mentioned,,,,never….my points…only that he was found not guilty. My opinion does not matter in the eyes of the law.
Now, would I do business with him…nope.
I also said the same thing about Trump. I would not do business with him either. His business practices are well know and I would not turn my back on him on anything.
But, in the eyes of the law….not guilty….so far.
Yes.. but again.. in the eyes of the law he’s not guilty… sure.. we agree on this.
But is he in YOUR EYES?
“But is he in YOUR EYES?”
Well, he can’t do that now, can he? The Colonel is feeling angst and making up stories about what I want from him. Trust me, I expect nothing in the way of confirmation from this crowd. OJ was guilty. We all know that. The point being, a court of law means nothing in certain situations.
I cant do what, my intrepid friend? I have never been asked for my opinion….I have only said that he was innocent….in reality he was not guilty as Mathius mentioned.
as to the stories? let’s see, how often have you lambasted me for not believing the J6 committee? You have stated that I must be blind for not believing them and that I am a denier for not believing them. You have constantly lumped me with a MAGA belief because I will not acquiesce to your way of thinking….you do it all the time.
But, to answer Mathius…..realistically, I did not follow the OJ trial very closely. I was embroiled in the Bosnia issue in 1995 and 1996…..it was of little importance to me at that time. There were many high speed projectiles flying through the air……
After coming home, I did read about it and most of the supporting documents up to and including the things thrown out of court for not going through the proper chain of custody on evidence. But from the accounts that I read, it appears that he was guilty and the civil court found that way as well.
OK, just finished plowing and shoveling snow. About a foot today, took over 4 hours..
Turning below zero tomorrow. Then more snow.
So, let me get this straight:
1 – Trump claims he can’t release tax returns because he’s under audit.
2 – Trump appoints the IRS tax commissioner
3 – The Trump appointed tax commissioner refused to follow the “mandatory audit” for Presidents and so no audits.
4 – The tax commissioner is famous for helping wealthy tax cheats
Result: Nothing to see here. Keep moving. :
The Trump appointed tax commissioner refused to follow the “mandatory audit” for Presidents and so no audits.
I’m curious…..is there something out there about this? If so, point me in the right direction. I am unaware that anyone has to release tax returns to be POTUS.
Colonel
Per CNN report last night. The IRS has a “manual” requirement to audit POTUS. Apparently this is a fairly “new” manual” rule as the committee noted it was so new they couldn’t really go back in time to see if it was enforced for prior Presidents.
But again, it is NOT A LAW, it is NOT A FEDERAL REGULATION. It was something apparently included in the IRS Manual.
There was no background on when this “manual” direction was adopted in the story.
Bottom line is that the Committee had to hang their hat on this as they really had no justification for going after Trump’s tax returns. Which is also why they are now recommending some legislative action to make it a requirement. Even though no such requirement is included in the Constitution.
Mr. The JAC,
A question for you that calls for speculation.
SETTING ASIDE the colossal mountain of bullshit that the Democrats and the media have generated with regard to Trump’s taxes.
SETTING ASIDE the various and sundry process issues, leaks, pretexts, and so forth under which the left has attempted to obtain/release Trump’s taxes.
Do you – JAC, personally – feel that
(A) the public has a legitimate interest in knowing what is in there (eg, conflicts of interest, etc)? Note that this is distinct from having a “right” to know about it, but rather is just some variation of “do you think that the public ‘really ought to’ know what the President/ex-President/candidate is/was up to financially.”
(B) that Mr. Trump is hiding something.. anything? If so, would you care to speculate about what?
(C) that there is anything… improprietous… about the way Mr. Trump has conducted himself with regard to this matter? (eg, saying he couldn’t because of an audit that may or may not exist while fighting tooth and nail to resist letting them be released, etc).
Do you – Mathius, personally – feel that
(A) the public has a legitimate interest in knowing what is in Hunter’s laptop (eg, conflicts of interest, etc)? Note that this is distinct from having a “right” to know about it, but rather is just some variation of “do you think that the public ‘really ought to’ know what the President/ex-President/candidate and his family is/was up to financially.”
(B) that Mr. Biden is hiding something.. anything? If so, would you care to speculate about what?
(C) that there is anything… improprietous… about the way Mr. Biden has conducted himself with regard to this matter? (eg, saying he never discussed Hunter’s businesses ).
I asked you first, but…
(A) Yes, to the extent that it directly involves selling access or influence-peddling. He is still a private citizen, so there is no legitimate public interest in seeing his private information. But insofar as they might demonstrate any kind of corruption or malfeasance vis-a-vis President Biden, then yes.
(B) Definitely. Tons. No one gets to be President. What? Who knows. Almost certainly the usual lawful-but-awful stuff (like those BS book sales).. all kinds of shady horsetrading.. illegal..? Probably all kinds of campaign finance violations that he’s just removed enough for plausible deniability.. probably some mild tax evasion/fraud. That time he shot a man.. and, who knows, maybe he did do something for Burisma?
(C) Perhaps. I can see this either way.. I guess much of the answer to this would depend on the answer to A.
So why isn’t the noise level from you equally high about Trump and Biden?
In the Trump case, I have seen no real evidence that he is corrupted internationally. Yes he has business dealings worldwide but most of the claims of corruption are nonsense (money paid for legitimate services rendered). The committee has his tax returns. If there was real dirt in them, it would have leaked by now. So unless something comes from the publication of the documents, this is just another political hack job. And you know as well as I do that tax forms can be read a thousand different ways.
Now in the case of Hunter and Joe, we have bank records of $M’s being given to the family and evidence that 10% went to the big guy. the services rendered appear to be political access. In addition we have testimony and photo proof that Joe was involved despite his repeated denials. We also have lots of information that shows the FBI and CIA covered up this scandal.
Magicians succeed by misdirection.
Three reasons:
A) I have no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden beyond supposition and extraordinarily flimsy innuendo about some “big guy.” Oh, I know it’s there.. he’s a shithead just like the rest of ’em.. I just don’t know where to point the finger.
B) SUFA makes enough noise about Biden as is. I don’t need to join in the din – but you’ll note that I don’t defend him either. If you wanted to chuck Biden into a volcano, my only objection would be if you didn’t let me grab a bag of marshmallows first.
C) Because you and SUFA persist in giving Trump an unreasonable amount of benefit of the doubt. Biden is somehow satan incarnate and Trump is some kind of martyr. He’s a pathological liar, a conman, a snake-oil salesman, a sexual predator, and an all-around colossal shithead who has been beyond toxic for this country. Yet so many persist in acting as though he is pure as the driven snow.
MORE TO THE POINT, when I ask a question about Trump, somehow all I ever get is whataboutism. Fuck Biden – answer my question. The reason Charlie and I have to perseverate on Trump is because SUFA refuses to admit that he’s a bad actor and a terrible excuse for a human being. Your refusal to acknowledge your double-standards leaves us in a position of having you relentlessly crap on “our” guy (as if we actually liked Biden) while holding your side up – as ever – as though you’re the blameless good guys.
Before his death, I spent an entire day going at it with G-Man during which I couldn’t get the guy to even admit that Trump had ever told so much as a single white lie. Nor that he had ever done anything wrong, at all, ever. Obama, he held, was an evil liar (“you can keep your insurance”), a Muslim Kenyan usurper out to destroy America… but Trump was somehow the most honest person who ever lived. Can you stretch your imagination into Charlie and my shoes to try to see how absolutely infuriating that is?
——-
So, AGAIN, I asked a question about Trump, and somehow all I got was whataboutism. Fuck Biden – answer my questions.
A) Wrong. There is strong evidence that Joe was involved with Hunter’s business. There is the direct testimony of Tony Bobulinski. There is the confirmation of emails by Bobulinksi and one other “partner” of Hunter’s, i.e., the same emails sent by Hunter and received by others. There are bank transfer records of large sums of money from Barisma and the Russian mayor’s wife. There is the large sum from the Chinese. There are photos of Joe meeting with some of these foreign characters. There is the 10% for the big guy statement in the emails. There is the fact that office space was retained for the Chinese businessman. There was the dinner meeting with Joe, Hunter and Tony Bobulinski. These are all confirmed published facts not innuendo. Then there are all the shady deals conducted by Joe’s brother. All of these deals put Biden at risk of being blackmailed.
My stance on Trump is similar to JAC’s below. Most or your claims fall into innuendo as far as I am concerned. Before he ran, I never liked Trump because of his big mouth, life style and self-aggrandizement. I still do not like him as a person. However, the first real political speech he gave in Iowa before declaring was refreshing as it had more truth in it than those of the other politicians on the stage. As president he did many positive things for this country but severely tarnished all the good during the last 3 months. If there is one disappointment that I have, it is that he did not do enough to clean out the federal bureaucracy.
Now as to his business dealings, Trump has been an open book throughout his business years. If there were truly shady dealings, I am sure that they would have been published by the business press long before he turned to politics. The patent issue with his daughter was old business. Patents are intellectual property that often have no value if tied to a brand that goes out of business. Ivanka closed her business. As for people staying in Trump hotels, if they received services commensurate with the billing, then there is no shady business here. As I understand it, Eric ran the business while his Dad was in office. They stopped doing all new foreign real estate deals. I have also seen that his net worth declined during those years. Now can Joe say the same thing?
What I am asking is that you apply the same standards to everyone. If you cannot do that or do not do that, then stop bitching about how we react to Trump because we are simply applying the same standard you have been using for years.
Oh, a fourth… while I absolutely believe Biden is a piece of shit, I do not believe he is half as bad as Trump.
Also, acknowledging my biases, Biden is nominally, theoretically “on my side.” He’s not… but he’s much more on my side than Trump. So, in general broadly speaking, I guess, somewhat.. he’s moving the country in the right direction or, at least, he’s not actively sprinting in the wrong direction as Trump did. This has a natural tendency to make me go softer on the guy.
while I absolutely believe Biden is a piece of shit, I do not believe he is half as bad as Trump.
Now, you are telling me that there are levels of shit?
Oh sure.
The younguns have rabbits. They make these hard, dry, little pellets you can pick up with your bare hands and toss in the litter box.
Now a dog, you’ll want to use a poop bag. And, depending on digestion, it can get pretty gross, but generally not too terrible.
A horse or a cow, on the other hand, well… I don’t think I have to tell you…
Then there are hippos…….. (don’t click that)
Geez, Mathius….you really have too much time on your hands……as to cow and bull poop…..sweet smell of money to us ranchers.
Or you could play bingo…
Bingo?…….you got me stumped on this one.
https://tinyurl.com/4wsmy489
Spam filter ate another one… trying again…
https://tinyurl.com/4wsmy489
((doing my best Horchak imitation)) OOO OOO OOO,…………….You did not ask me but what the hell, I will offer a response.
Setting aside the areas you requested…….
(A) the public has a legitimate interest in knowing what is in there (eg, conflicts of interest, etc)? Note that this is distinct from having a “right” to know about it, but rather is just some variation of “do you think that the public ‘really ought to’ know what the President/ex-President/candidate is/was up to financially.”
Yes, the public has a right to know as it pertains to one specific area….Conflicts of interest and possible compromise as it pertains to countries and such. (Like China, for instance). We have a right to know of possible compromise…..we do not have a right to know or see his tax returns or what he did as a private citizen. If he was a slum lord, I do not care nor should you. If he was a slum lord in China or Russia, I do care because of the possibility of compromise or black mail. That said…..I offer a solution….take all the guess work out of politicians and compromise. All tax returns are subject to audit from all Senators, House, and cabinet members. If there is nothing their (criminally) then all POTUS appointments, Senate and House, and all cabinet appointments place their holdings in a blind trust. What do you think?
(B) that Mr. Trump is hiding something.. anything? If so, would you care to speculate about what? No, I do not want to speculate because suspicion alone is not warranted…however, if you adopt my solution under (a) then it would be a moot point. I have no reason to show my tax returns to anybody and if asked for loan documents or such, I refuse to provide them. It is no one’s business. But refusal to provide them does not mean there is anything to hide. I am a private person…..no one, including loan officers, has a right to ask for tax returns. Is Trump hiding something? As much as he has been audited, I doubt it, however, I strongly suspect many issues of awful but lawful.
(C) that there is anything… improprietous… about the way Mr. Trump has conducted himself with regard to this matter? (eg, saying he couldn’t because of an audit that may or may not exist while fighting tooth and nail to resist letting them be released, etc).
Now…you may be close to getting an agreement from me here. I have never accepted his excuse of “I’m getting audited”….just like I do not accept the excuse in a criminal investigation saying ” I cant answer because we are still in our investigation.”……So……that said…..I do not buy his excuse….does it rise to impropriety? Interesting question.
Mathius
My response Sir. But first I have to give credit where credit is due. Congratulations on the word of the day; “improprietous”.
Now down to business:
A) YES, the public has the right to know if there are conflicts of interest or other shady relationships that could affect a politicians decisions. There is an established process to identify these things and all politicians, including Mr. Trump, as well as high paid govt. employees in leadership complete these reviews. But I believe the question should be limited to identifying the potential conflicts, not diving into the weeds about how their businesses are conducted or every person they did business with.
Now on this note, an IRS audit is not the method for this review. Tax returns are absolutely not part of it. Although I believe it may be allowed, under current rules, for the reviewers to ask the IRS for any info connected to the review. The IRS conducts audits and investigates criminal activity linked to those returns. The tax returns are private and should be for every American. Unless and until they become part of a criminal trial in which they are presented as evidence. Congress has no legitimate reason to look at said returns. I think the courts ruled in their favor based on the usual political leanings and not the law itself. They gave Congress far more deference on this than they do on other legal issues.
One issue tied to this is WHEN should the review be done and made public. It would be best if done before being elected. I think the law does not require this until employed or elected. I do know that some review and investigation is done pre election, but I do not know the extent. For SCOTUS it is fairly thorough prior to Senate approval.
Again, YES, get the info out before the election so we can find out how the candidate intends to address the apparent “conflicts of interest.” Or if they seem to be a criminal. However, it is the VOTERS who get to decide if that information is disqualifying. And if they say no, then the other side needs to stick a sock in it, for the good of the country.
B) I do not think he is really hiding anything. Although it is obvious that his business financial dealings and tax returns “might” cause political damage. So maybe that but I don’t think it was the reason for him saying hell no to releasing his returns. I think he initially refused on principle. Remember, this “thing” about releasing tax information was a political stunt created by D’s years ago. R’s have played along since then. Mr. Trump broke the game, as is his usual “style”. And again, he was a different situation than those who agreed to release their returns in the past. Special note here is that those other candidates did not really release their whole returns either. They only released the summary 1040. Which is another reason I said back then that releasing his 1040 wouldn’t tell us anything.
I think we need to clarify something with respect to these “audits”. An IRS audit is a standard procedure, and apparently Mr. Trump was being targeted for such audits. I would expect this to be potentially true given his huge bankruptcy and all the other foggy dealings he has had. I am sure he has more tax lawyers than the IRS itself, so no surprise he may have boxes and boxes of sea shells in his closet. These audits are, to my understanding, not the same as the audit Congress is whining about. That is just a more general review, not the normal IRS audit, as in the one that caused you to lose sleep over. Furthermore, neither of these IRS “audits” are the same as the background review and investigation that occurs before and after being elected. That is a review designed to discover known criminal accusations, associations and potential conflicts of interest.
C) Was there something improper about his handling of the issue? No, not from a legal or required procedural point. But from a leadership, POTUS candidate, honesty view point, YES. I do think it was wrong to claim he could not release them due to ongoing audits. That was dishonest. If his reason for not releasing them was as I think it was, initially, then he should have just said “it is nobody’s business and I am not going to give my opponent shot and powder with which to shoot me.” He should have just taken it head on as a political ploy and stayed on that.
If there is a point where he was improprietous it was in his handling of his potential conflicts of interest, once elected.
If you recall, I was critical of Mr. Trump’s handling of his business conflicts. At the time I did point out that he was very unique as an elected POTUS because of his extensive business interests and that fact that HE is the Brand. But I still think he should have just come out and put everything in a blind trust or if he had his kids running the business, then keep them out of the govt. What he did was probably legal but displayed immaturity and lack of understanding about the office he was about to occupy. I think it was revealing with regard to how he may have had the country’s interest in mind, he was still looking out for himself. A little to much of having your cake and eating too, if you will.
Thank you for this.
A follow-up: Do you believe that Trump (and family) profiteered from the Presidency?
You say he handled his business conflicts poorly – I agree – but do you think he and his family improperly leveraged their power / proximity to power for personal financial gain in a similar manner to which Hunter Biden is accused?
For example, the Saudis giving Jared a 2b investment means a recurring revenue stream of 20-40m in management fees alone. Ivanka got several patents approved in China that had previously been stalled/rejected. Trump had visitors staying in his Washington hotel. Eric Trump acknowledge that they had ‘all the liquidity they needed’ (read loans) from Russian banks.
Pence stayed on the opposite side of the country from his meetings in order to stay at Trump’s resort in Ireland. Etc, etc. Beyond just “conflicts,” do you think any of this is likely to have had a quid pro quo component?
Or, perhaps, more charitably, do consider it likely that the other parties in these conflicts did their sides for the purpose of influencing the Presidency (whether or not Trump & Co. actually gave them anything of value in return)?
Mathius
I don’t know about any actual quid pro quo. But truthfully, and based on past evidence, foreign dignitaries don’t usually give money to politicians, directly or indirectly, without at leas hoping for some quid pro quo. We will know for sure if we see a complete collapse of said people visiting said hotels and resorts. Like how the donations to the Clinton Foundation dried up when she lost.
Was there “profiteering”? I have not seen evidence of that in the strictest sense. But it sure does appear that his family, and probably he, profited from his businesses while in office. In his case, I think the “profits” were deferred since they went to the company. I assume he is back running it but I actually don’t know this. Do you?
I think all the howling about people staying at a Trump hotel or resort was mostly BS. As in political gamesmanship by the opposition. But AGAIN, it was only an issue because Mr. Trump DID NOT properly divest himself of all “apparent conflicts of interest”. But let us both be honest here. I don’t think that it would have made a difference to the “opposition” if he had.
As long as his blind trust or any family member might make a profit in any business while he was in office was going to get put up in neon lights in Times Square. Charlie and Mr. Nadler and Schiff would be standing there screaming at their lungs about the thief and criminal in the White House. So this reality tends to cloud my responses to accusations against Mr. Trump.
I heard the boy cry wolf so many times it is hard to get stirred up the next time he starts yelling.
Now with all that said, the one “deal” that has caused me heartburn from the outset was the Saudi’s deal with Kushner. I don’t know enough about the details but given his role in the White House this just stinks to high heaven.
Well, we DID see a spike in visits to the Washington hotel by foreign dignitaries. When I argued this at the time, SUFA defended it with some version of “well they have to stay somewhere” and “it’d be rude to stay elsewhere” and “he’s just charging them the going rate as a business” and so on. It was all rather infuriating.
As for now, well, a drop-off doesn’t actually mean anything. I would expect a drop off as his popularity dwindle and the public perception of him turns increasingly negative. Additionally, showing up to a meeting with Biden would probably not go as well if he found out that you were staying at the Trump hotel… so I would expect that they don’t risk it… it’s not like the hotel is such a unique marvel of luxury that they can only countenance staying there and nowhere else in Washington.
So, occupancy staying high might be a point in his defense.. but its falling off would, I think, be meaningless.
Mathius
You are probably right about the drop off of business theory. I also agree that if he does not change his ways, and I don’t think he can, his actions will harm the profitability of his brand in the long run. I don’t think his kids can keep it going, largely because HE IS THE BRAND.
I cannot attest to the luxury of his D.C. hotel. I have never been in any of his facilities and when asked, turned down the chance to invest in one. I did stand outside the TRUMP building in Chicago though.
I understand your frustration with the SUFA response to increased bookings at his D.C. hotel. However, I think some of that was because we all know why people were howling. It was all POLITICAL BS.
That aside, I am sure many stayed there so they could tell him or his cohorts they stayed there. An act of “friendship” towards the POTUS. More than likely hoping to garner some good will for whatever their dealings. Frankly, I don’t have real heart burn with that in a general sense. And I do not think it violated the emoluments clause, as he was not directly receiving payments. A perfect example of your legal but awful argument.
I have a concern here that we place such restrictions on anyone holding the office that we discourage successful business people from running. But we need to protect against having elites from all sources directly purchasing favors from elected and/or appointed officials.
Frankly, I find it unbelievably offensive how Congress and POTUS are NOT HELD to the same standard of scrutiny on this issue as regular Federal Employees. We did not make millions while working for the Govt. Yet there are hundreds of examples of people in Congress who did.
Reply got lost in the aether..
More fodder for the cannon on “blind trusts”………if there were true blind trusts….I mean TRUE ones……then whatever happened to his hotels would be a moot point as well……But, if I am not mistaken, you are to have blind trusts….and not run from friends or family….not sure about how it works now…but the same rules should apply to everyone.
Yes, JAC, I was able to find about the same thing you posted. There is no rule, there is no law, and there is no long term precedent for examining tax returns of a POTUS before, during, or after his or her term. If there were, the Kennedy/Johnson Presidency would not have happened.
It was a “policy” (not legislation) set in place post Nixon. It should be legislation but now that the lunatics will have the house, forgetaboutit …
OK, sorry guys. I apologize for the cringe effect right off the bat, but I cracked up on this one and just felt like posting it. I mean, I gotta put up with Charlie’s bullshit so…. 🙂 🙂
Anita my dear. I am off to bed with a chuckle in my heart and that tune in my head. Thank you.
🙂 It’d be funny if his supporters didn’t believe his bullshit. But they do … every one of them. Don’t forget to buy his NFT’s … SUCKERS. 🙂
That;s funny…..
LOL…….yep…..piss them all off…outlive them. BTW, do you personally know anyone who supported Henry Kissinger……I don’t and did not.
Only in your little dog brain!
Ok, which one of you owns this truck?
Sorry, it is not a Ford 150.
Seems to me the load is a little light.
One giant turd.
Don’t tell me the Elites aren’t throwing a fit over January 6th and trying to send a message to We the People. “Don’t ever, ever, ever, dare to try and scare us again. We RULE and you had better get used to it.”
https://redstate.com/kiradavis/2022/12/21/rapper-who-posed-on-steps-of-capitol-during-j6-protests-sentenced-to-five-months-in-prison-n676738
He lies … all he does is lie … but you’re all fine with that. 🙂
He lies … all he does is lie … but you’re all fine with that
Charlie, here is a great example of what I am talking about with you…….you posted this, not me……I interpret your statement to mean……what the msnbc guy says is true and what I say is true….and when you say that we are fine with that…then the only way to take it is…………if you do not believe us then you are wrong.
Yep. Except the MSNBC Guy is actually a Congressman on the Ways and Means Committee who saw the returns. It’s been reported by several news agencies now that Trump lied about his “audit.” … You don’t have to believe it, that’s fine, but sure can say you’re all fine with that.
It’s like a post Matthius made (I think it was him, maybe on FB someone else) that says Trump supporters may not be racists, but racism isn’t a deal breaker for them.
The 30-33% of the voting public that still buys his bullshit may vote for him … which means he’ll lose to Biden OR Harris … 🙂
I think you are wrong…. I still do not think that he throws his hat into the ring…not as a Republican, anyway.
Non-fungible tokens (NFTs) are cryptographic assets on a blockchain with unique identification codes and metadata that distinguish them from each other.
Ummm…Trump has these? What is a Trump NFT, this curious person wants to know.
Imagine that you go to the Louvre and run into a janitor. He offers to sell you the Mona Lisa.
Well, no, actually, he can’t do that… but does have a picture of it hanging in the broom closet and he’ll sell you the right to have your name tacked up next to it. Anyone who wants to tack up their name there has to buy that right from you.
And, yes, the Janitor has a second picture of the Mona Lisa with someone else’s name tacked up next to it, but that’s from a slightly different angle. That other one? It’s in slightly different lighting. That one? It has a pixel difference.
Oh, and that one is cropped a bit. But they’re all different! And they each have someone’s name tacked up next to them, indicating that you’ll need to buy that right from them if you want to put your name there instead.
Do you own the picture in the janitor’s closet at least? No. But, you DO own the right to put your name next to it asserting your… umm… I guess ‘claim’ or something? Think of it as stadium naming rights – Enron didn’t “own” the field then and Minute Maid doesn’t own it now – they just… got to put their name there.. and if someone else wanted to put their name there instead, they had to buy that right from them.
Meanwhile, the curator has his own closet with an identical picture. Though that one has someone else’s name next to it.
An ex-employee had a closet, but he left and now no one can buy or sell their slots, so the ‘owners’ are all just going to sit there until it crumbles into dust.
In fact, you notice, as you exit through the gift shop, your picture is the same exact one they’re using for postcards. The clerk informs you that anyone who wants to can just copy that picture and save it to their camera roll / computer with absolute impunity and there’s nothing anyone anywhere can do to stop them. You can also buy a life-sized print or a poster if you like.
All the while, the French Government is the only one that actually, you know, owns the Mona Lisa – it can move it, store it, sell it, or even destroy it… and you would have zero say about any of that.
But, hey, at least you bought the right to put your name up in the janitor’s closet, right?
I see…you posted this once….still makes no sense but ok…thank you
There’s a simple reason it makes no sense.
And that is because….. it’s monumentally fucking stupid.
An NFT is literally just [your name tied to a digital “asset”] in a cryptographically secured ledger. The “asset” can be a picture or a song or a porn video or a tweet – it makes no practical difference. You don’t “own” the asset, you don’t “control” the asset. Nothing stops anyone from saving a copy or making another with an imperceptible difference, or from starting a new ledger where that exact same “asset” is tied to someone else’s name. And the actual creator / owner of the “asset” is completely unfazed by the notion that you have entered your name in someone’s logbook tied to their property.
It’s exactly like that old “buy a piece of the moon” scam.. or the “name a star” scam… In each case, you are never actually BUYING anything except a certificate that says they’ve entered your name in their spiffy logbook. And anyone else can make their own log book and put someone else’s name there. And, again, this is important: at no point do you actually have anything even remotely resembling “ownership” or “control” of the moon/star.
Sounds like a great business. No investment needed. No downside either as the customer gets what he the gratification he wants, that is association with whatever image is being sold. So how many of these businesses have you started?
Who do you think is the real power behind Trump NFTs? You think Trump did his own programming on this? I get 50% of his 10% cut.
I see……I think…and people actually buy into this shit? Just continues to prove…a fool and his money……
The NBA has a thing where they let you “buy a play.” On their website, you get to buy/trade tokens linked to certain plays. So someone makes a spectacular dunk, and a bunch of idiots go on their and bid for the right to have their name tied to the video of that play on the NBA website. There are no ‘rights’ attached to this – you can’t broadcast it, you can’t stop anyone else from broadcasting or watching it, they don’t have to credit you.. You just… get your name linked to it on the NBA NFT website. And if they stop hosting it in a few years…? Well, I guess you’re the owner of that NFT which is linked to nothing..?
Fools and their money, indeed.
There is a new T shirt down here…….a picture of a couple that says….Rip and Beth, the Texas spirit goes to Montana.
Bimbo war on the right … Beobert vs MTG … it’s hilarious.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/12/nancy_pelosis_failures_helped_create_the_capitol_kerfuffle_on_january_6.html
Follow the link to the full report.
He called NO ONE. His own people said he told no one. The one moron who said it publicly, took it back under oath. Jesus.
So, Colonel, YOU may not be a Trumpist/MAGA-ite … but there sure are a lot of them here. And like that prior post says: MAGA-ites may not be racists themselves, but racism isn’t a deal breaker.
I have two articles here with comments from two different people in the Oval Office when Trump suggested troops for Jan 6. Kash Patel and General Kellogg. Why is this such a big problem? Maybe because Trump requesting troops puts a big hole in the “incitement” narrative?
https://bongino.com/the-evidence-trump-requested-10000-national-guard-troops-on-january-6th-that-fact-checkers-are-ignoring
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/08/gen-kellogg-trump-did-request-natl-guard-troops-on-jan-6th-asks-congress-to-release-his-testimony/
Because under oath they both changed their story and said there was no call from Trump to anybody. The only calls out of the white house that day were to Congresspeople and Senators to stall the electoral count and to Mike Pence to call him a pussy. It’s no problem at all. 🙂
Bada-boom, bada=bing.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/aug/10/facebook-posts/no-proof-trump-asked-troops-jan-6-or-democrats-den/
One more, just for the hell of it. 🙂
https://www.thebulwark.com/trumps-jan-6th-national-guard-lie-crumbles/
He made the suggestion and offer. Whether there was a call or not is irrelevant because somehow word got around and there is a whole bunch of declining the offer. Kellogg wants his testimony and other congress people’s testimony released. Why won’t the committee release it?
I’m sure the DOJ will question him too … “word got out” because that’s what a pathological liar does. He finds lackeys and has them spread it. He did nothing because he was enjoying the scene. He’s that sick.
Anita, my love, the man is a pathological liar and a sociopath. If there’s any legitimacy to all the investigations, he’ll lose 80-100% of them. I only hope he winds up in the same jail as some people I know still doing time. They’re probably supporters (crazy fact, but both cops and mobsters tend to be more in line with MAGA than the real world). Of course he won’t do actual time, because the system is rigged in THAT regard, but just the thought of him wearing an orange jumper and dropping to his knees for a roll of toilet paper warms my heart. 🙂
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/12/_pfizer_ceo_surprised_that_they_suggested_mrna_technology_in_the_covid_shot.html
How many times does the government have to lie to us before we truly reform it?
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/12/21/the-spending-bill-funds-abortions-to-preserve-biodiversity-n1655462
Save the world-kill your baby. Really sick, it’s getting worse everyday.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics said there were 1M jobs created in 2Q22. The real number as determined by the Philly Fed Reserv. is 10.5K. How do you miss a number such as that by 95.2%? Incompetence or direct election misinformation/manipulation maybe?
Devin Nunes’ staff was spied on in 2017 by the FBI. They intercepted emails, text and phone messages. This included Kash Patel. This was during Nunes’ push to out the Steele Dossier as a democrat dirty trick that the FBI ran with along with the MSM. So the executive branch was spying on the Congressional branch. How much more deep state corruption do we need to see before it becomes serious and needs to be corrected?
They also intercepted Rudy’s messages which is how they knew the NYP story on Hunter was going to break. This allowed them to warn Big Tech. More of our hard earned tax dollars to suppress the people.
But heh, let’s just concentrate on Orange Man Bad. As Obi Wan said, “Nothing to see here.”
I doubt if there is a way back.
The Party of the Fifth. 🙂
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/politics/house-jan-6-committee-transcripts-fifth-amendment/index.html
And last week in the Republican Party … the GOP eating its own?
Wow.. that’s… something…
And, man… they’re really trying their best to beat that “I identify as [stupid thing]” and “my pronouns are [noun]” kinds of… “jokes”… to death.
They seem to be obsessed with nonsense, don’t they? Trump has proven himself to be greater than Lincoln & Washington (and probably every other Republican President) in handing power over to the Democrats. 🙂
The Republican Party is in a bit of disarray at the moment. And it is true there is some of that “eating their own” going on.
But this video doesn’t show any of that. Just another left wing moronic take on people they want to ridicule to boost their own importance in life. And maybe garner clicks on the internet thing.
Ma nishtana.
Ma nishtana.
I mean.. it does… just not the important parts or the actual scale/scope. Just the flashy parts suitable as an easy punchline to people who aren’t following too closely or looking for anything too serious.
Mathius
Sorry Sir but it does not. As you say, it shows a bunch of clips of people saying things that make great “punchlines” among those on the left. Peopole who already have formed opinion or caricatures of those on the Right. This is just a collection of things that fit those caricatures. In their minds.
It shows nothing of the actual infighting and struggle for power currently ongoing in the R party.
You mean like the brawl for RNC chair? I wonder if the 168 will keep her around. Harmeet Dhillon and Mike Lindell are both an improvement
Left Wing moronic take … THE LINCOLN PROJECT. 🙂
Don’t you know, charlie? Anything left of Ghenghis Khan is “left wing.”
I forget from time to time. 🙂
Perfect. I’m borrowing this one.
You cannot “borrow” what is already yours, comrade.
From a capitalist pig site? Okay, if you say so. But if they kidnap and use a dentist drill on me, I warn you now, I’m giving you up.
Paid for by The Lincoln Project. Figures. That group is the very definition of RINO. We MAGA folks left them behind 6 years ago. They just haven’t figured it out yet, even though we keep kicking them to the curb time after time. Especially their queen Liz Cheney.
Anita, my love, has it right. The Lincoln Project (Republicans the way our Moms and Dads used to know them) …
Somebody up there left the door open…….weather blew in with a vengeance.
The Armed Forces Bowl in Fort Worth is going to happen but all festivities have been cancelled…..no outdoor kiosks, no tail gating…..temps are expected to to be single digit by 2 PM….
sure is chilly.
Having trouble with global warming? Get used to it, the next 30 years will be cold.
Shame on you, T Ray….You MUST be sent to Climate Change re-education camp……since the FBI is now engaged in thought control through social media, you are marked for your subversive attitude. I must send you to the Stella school of science to be re-indoctrinated.
These Blue Northers are described in the Micheners’s book “Texas”. Nothing new under the sunless sky.
What a wonderful book…. makes me wish I had time to re-read a few of his tomes.
I’d contend that Hawaii is his magnum opus, though. Followed by Chesapeake.
Yep…..”Yankee Winds”……nothing new to Texas. But we still bitch about them.
Well, we bitch about the “Yankees”…..not the wind….it blows 24/7.
Don’t blame us, its the Canucks as usual. We’ve been steady so far…until tomorrow. Currently 39*
Per our reports this whole thing started in SIBERIA.
Putin’s revenge on Biden.
Now, Imagine how “chilly” it is to Americans living under a bridge or in a tent.
I would imagine pretty damn cold…..
Gotta give the FBI credit…..actual posts from Twitter with names and addresses……..tying them directly to…well….you can see it….and they are saying that it is misinformation and conspiracy theorists……amazing.
directly to….stealing an election? YUP. I’ll give them a little bit of rope….Helping to steal an election.
Just enough rope to H— themselves.
Yes, Colonel … give them credit … and while you’re at it, give Trump’s Secret Service credit for managing to delete ALL their phone text messages from January 5th and 6th 2021 … it’s almost like what happened with his “audits” from the IRS … they just disappeared. 🙂
You have to remember Charlie….it is not Trump’s Secret Service….He doesn’t own it nor does he man it….nor does he have much control over it….however, the Secret Service is there to protect the POTUS by whatever means…..as they do ALL Presidents.
That said, the Secret Service reports to the Director of Homeland Security.
Well, Charlie…you should be proud……your boy, Biden, has prolonged the war….your lefty boys have voted to increase the money….you even got some RINOS on your side….
I say again, it is a European problem…..let Europe handle it and you ain’t seen nothing yet on the anti-semitism that is about to overtake Europe.
Shut the frigging government down and let the new republicans coming in stop this stupid bill….if THEY even have the balls.
I am VERY PROUD, Colonel … to be a socialist. The Dems have been warmongers for decades … nothing new there … so has most of the GOP … it appears as though JUST the MAGA nuts don’t want to feed the military industrial complex with a proxy war (and a blank check) … so, my people, the socialists, want nothing to do with ANY war. Until another country attacks Coney Island, etc., we have ZERO business engaging in wars … same as Korea, Vietnam and our never ending losing efforts in the Middle East. We’re on the same page regarding war, Colonel.
Nobody has mentioned the Twitter files outing the CIA on JFK. I haven’t seen those files yet, but its all the rage on some sites I run through.
Next up…the Covid files
Because the only thing that matters is Orange Man Bad.
Well, I mean… Orange Man IS Bad……. but it’s possible to be concerned about more than one thing at a time.
Well…. I mentioned several topics above plus this one from Anita. Only SK responded. Why the deafening silence if you’re capable of multitasking?
Don’t whine, T-man … and I can’t believe they/you named a school of science after moi “Stella school of science” … considering the fact I usually fell asleep in science class, it’s an ironic honor (or is it?) …
T, Orange Man isn’t just bad for the country and the world, I would think you guys would be way more concerned about what he’s done to your party. He may have fooled you with his so-called “populist appeal” but he acted the same as every other GOP President (and Biden, for that matter) … although I’m sure he didn’t have a clue about actual policy, he was too busy cheerleading for himself. In all seriousness, don’t you think the GOP needs to boot him into the atmosphere already? He’s destroyed your party. It’s a complete mess. He makes the ABSOLUTELY USELESS DEMOCRATS look almost attractive by comparison. How many bad things does he have to do before the GOP sees the light? How many more elections do you need to lose? Frankly, I find it baffling that he has any supporters, including Anita, my love … why? Why would anyone buy into his unadulterated bullshit at this point?
Evidence to the contrary, I do have a day job and limited bandwidth.
Charlie’s out there hurtling Molotovs left and right. I’m engaging where the mood strikes me and when time allows.
Remember, there are several of you and only one of me.
That, and I’ve also found over the last several years, that engagement on certain topics is a waste of my effort. No offense intended, but there is nothing good that will come of having it out with you on something where you’ll ever shift an inch.
I have to consider that one for my next crime novel. “Charlie Molotov” … An old fart (and former criminal) acknowledges the errors of his ways and decides to engage in his personal knucklehead revolution … because he’s too fat and slow in his dotage, and he’s only fired an M-16 and .22 rifle a few times in his life, he is forced to engage via Molotov cocktails. The novel should start with him frustrated by lunatics on a right wing site to the point where he puts his computer out in the yard and tosses a Molotov at said computer. It makes him feel good, so he robs a liquor truck, parks it in his garage, and turns all those bottles into bombs, then heads south to D.C.
Upon further review, while reading a socialist magazine (N+1) on the throne earlier (at the office), I’ve decided on “Molotov Charlie.”
I nominate JAC to write the forward to Molotov Charlie.
🙂 I second that!
Cassidy Hutchinson … radical Marxist RINO … 🙂
Isn’t she the one who said Trump tried to hijack the limo to get himself to the Capitol? Even CNN agrees that its a bunch of hearsay
Except the hearsay has been more confirmed than denied. I’m gonna put my money on her, because who in their right mind would decide “Now’s the time to get myself a few death threats.” She also pointed out the Trump WH lawyer who tried to get her to keep quiet. Jury intimidation and/or bribery, since he allegedly also offered her a job (she’d be “taken care of”).
Isn’t it amazing how we now define hearsay……as to more confirmed than denied…Really……..
So, now, hearsay is to actually be listened to …..and used as more confirmed than denied….still unproven rhetoric. Amazing.
What is amazing is how willing you and others here are to assume she’s lying. Reread what I wrote. “I’m gonna put my money on her, because who in their right mind would decide “Now’s the time to get myself a few death threats.”
So, it’s her vs. the collection of plotters and planners and the Orange Man himself (who claimed he hardly knew her or saw her) … yeah, her testimony is more confirmed than denied (i.e., if I had to bet, it would be on her being honest vs. the pathological liars and those seeking to shield themselves from legal actions). I can’t wait (and can only hope) these pieces of shit are brought to trial so you and others here can find it all a kangaroo court when they’re convicted. 🙂
Confirmed by who exactly?
Question: What do you all think about the Russian Revolution? Were the people right to overthrow the Czar? Seriously curious.
No.
And “the people” didn’t overthrow the Czar. Some of the people did that.
Did they have a right? Yes. Were they right? No.
A new page is posted.